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  • Why would you go Icy Wind and then Payback too? Payback's power doubles if you have already taken a hit and Icy Wind makes the opponent's Pokemon Slower so you are less likely to have taken a hit frist, therefore Payback doesn't get the boost.

  • @UnderdogBros Ambipom didn't need the boost, so I wasn't concerned about not getting it. I could've used Return I guess, but the difference is only a couple points.

    Actually, I never use Payback with the intention of getting hit first. Half the time it's just a nice 75 Base Dark move to kill Ghosts.

  • Dunsparce would be cool too. Just an idea, because it also can learn Calm Mind. It can't learn Psychic though.

  • @BlackBeike *Research* ...Dunsparce can learn Zen Headbutt though! Of course with his speed, he wouldn't be doing much flinching outside of a Trick Room. Although...Hmm...

  • @Erebus72588 We have Thunder Wave and Body Slam for that.

  • @BlackBeike Good point. I didn't even think of Para-Flinch (which I really should have).

  • @Erebus72588 Rock Slide is awesome for that too.

  • Persian really did a great job in this match. May I suggest you switch Espeon for Girafirig as it is part normal too. Might help fend off the Fighting Pokes due to it being part Psychic aswell :)

  • @atreecko Girafarig would be a pretty cool idea. And it would help. (Starts brainstorming) Thanks!

    That's a suggestion for Bibarel and Girafarig now... I have work to do.

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