Where's the rest of my comments F-wad! "SEE THE REAL MILITARY, instead of a coalition of a MINORITY in the military!"
The Dems passed the DE-stimulus bill with No Support from the American people. Even the Congressional Budget Office (who rates legislation for a living) said this bill will make the economic problems WORSE. Harry Reid says to "Pray" that the bill works because even HE doesn't know if it will work. Now THAT'S Liberal mentality for you. Delete THIS (U CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!)
Yes, you are "sorry"! You don't like what I say and you delete it? Just like a true liberal! You close your ears and run the other way when someone starts to make sense.
You have enough Socialist movement in your Dem party now to control the WH AND Congress. You liberal pukes are getting your wish of destoying this country. Part I was this worthless DE-stimulous bill that Congress just passed. If I were still in the military, I would get out rather than saluting the current CIC!
What's with the military service questions of MAF? What is your military service to our country dipwad? I'm a veteran. What's your record? Does MAF claim to have a military service background? Or do they just support what is logically RIGHT for this country in fixing what you liberal pukes have ruined in a good country? My President may have been bad, but your President is a SOCIALIST! Read the context of the Obamanation De-stimulus bill that takes away healthcare rights of seniors...
it doesnt matter if you are in the military it only manners if you support them or not. does anyone on you tube unedrstand if it wasnt for the u.s military which the right wing protacts we all would be speaking german so before you criticise americas troops think where you would be without them if germany took over forget it about it there would be no such thing of free speech
you obviously don't know what a "military draft" is. It's how we won WW2.... no 5 draft deferments (DICK Cheney) for people during WWII and no ducking into the National Guard during WWII.
You really think there were enough German troops to occupy Europe AND come up with enough resources to invade a huge country accross the Atlantic?
Every able bodied man would have joined the Militia and repelled any German aggresssion. It was not necessary to send troops to die in Europe to protect the US. You are completely wrong.
this sounds like something a jarhead would say, but hey Glad to have you serve! however Chickenhawks don't get the same treatment, I served and you serve now, everyone supports the troops but. Cheney is a coward, Bush is a coward, and AWOL to boot. You don't have to be conservative to serve but you do have to be a conservative to support the war and get 5 deferments when it was your turn to guard your post.
All you lib dems on here can BITE ME. This is the only country in the free world where you can spout off your treasonous b.s. and not get shot for it. There will be a very special place in hell waiting for you. Trust me on that one.
oh-- the comment below, btw, was in response to scootertrashgirl's latest illiterate uninformed rant.
as i said before, scooter-- get a few facts. a few real ideas other than your "liberal suck and hate america" crap. otherwise, run along and let the grown ups talk.
Have you checked these folks out? DO you know what exactly they support? They support a lot more then nuking Berkeley. They support fascism and extremest censorship. They spent much time, money and energy trying to have Michael Moore movies banned in the USA. They actually went to individual theaters and tried to influence them to not play them. Also they spent millions to make a movie in response to Ferinheight 9/11 with Disney but it was shelved because of conflicting interest.
They also attempted (very intensely) to have NATO (our allies) permanently evicted form the United States calling them terrorists... NATO... The only organization that assists us in time of war and conflict and the only organization that would assist us if we were attacked... NATO. Much of NATO is severely against us because of Iraq anyway, some countries blatantly refuse to participate, but then to add insult to injury there's always the kind folk at the MAF (Move America toward Fascism)
Also; when you look up who their website is registered to; it is registered to one of the biggest lobbyist firms for the GOP. Soon as this was made public (the same day) it was re-registered and a phone number for a downtown Sacramento pub was used as the contact phone number. Real honest folk huh... Does any of this make you question their integrity or intentions?
These people aren't conservative Republicans man. That's what they are trying to lead people to believe. Conservative republicans are like Ron Paul by every sense of the definition of the word. There people are neo-con fanatic neo-nazi white supremacist fascists and nothing else.
mmm so u dont support america well if u think it sucks so much than leave i mean nothing is keeping your here you know what you could live in iraq right or in cuba where they have no rights
Yep. That's exactly what I said friend. You got it. And you are 100% completely illiterate. If you could read, you would see clearly by what was written is that it is the Move America to Fascism (MAF) group that does not support America, clearly. Learn to read. It's good for your brain and stuff...
do you not know what fascism is it when A person hold a dictaorship over a country by telling them what to do how to act and stripping them of all thir right. its not my fault that michial moore is a dick head if u look he is more repubican than geroge bush i.e. have stock in Haliberton
Michael Moore is a film maker, an artist. Nothing else. He has a right to his freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and the freedom to make a living by making and selling his art. This is a very basic constitutional American freedom. This is the most core, basic thing that this fine country is built upon. This is what makes America America. This is what makes us proud of who we are. This is what makes us who we are. This is liberty and freedom.
Besides he is quite good at making his art and $725,000,000 worth of people agree. How much money do you or MAF make? You can judge a man by his art and I do believe three-quarters a billion dollars is quite a judge. I do understand fascism, completely. And what MAF does and acts out is fascism in it's purist form. Your definition is incorrect. You don't need to be a dictator or rule a country to be a fascist. That sounds like a definition a 6th or 7th grader would give.
Remember Hitler was a nobody for more than half his life. The MAF are fascists by every word of the definition. They are more than likely white supremacist also. I have seen their entire group many times and never seen other than white folks. You know as well as I do that these people love nothing better what they believe and that what they believe is the only possible thing that could be true and correct.
They truly believe with all their hearts and minds that everyone that doesn't believe what they believe is a (to quote their "leaders") "piece of shit" "communist" "pinko" "motherfucker" "bastard" or a "liberal". And they would surly love nothing but to "strip people of all their rights". This is what they are attempting to do on a daily basis. This is the actual entire reason for their organization. Wether it's NATO, Michael Moore, Code Pink, and the list goes on.
They would love to round all these people up and everyone that THEY FEEL is even the slightest bit "unpatriotic" and "throw them in a concentration camp" (by their own words.) This my friend is fascism and nothing else. Argue with me, please, so you can prove yourself a fascist too.
Are you in anyway aware of what is happening, what we are talking about or what this video is about here? Move America to Fascism (MAF) is not a government group nor are any of it's "leaders" associated with the government nor even veterans. This video and discussion is about MAF.
Groups like Move America Forward are gasping for air. As a conservative who against this war from day one, I cant tell you how glad I am that Morgan was fired. Neo-con filth like her, Hannity, and McCain have ruined the GOP to such an extent that I just might have to vote for Obama just to prevent a war with Iran from occuring. Anti-war conservatives are a growing silent majority and there is no way in hell we will let McCain win.
Ralph, When your left of clinton your on the fringe. I see your an Obama Supporter which in my opinion is one step away from Communisim or Socialisim. Bye the way, what is your Military Background? Do you have to be a Patriot to serve in the Military? As someone who serverd proudly in the US Navy, non-partisians, pro-military groups have long supported my ability to do my Job without prejudice: US0,VFW and American Legion, for example. Would you shout down those org's?
I think I over estimated your ability to think beyond just hatred of America. There is no reasoning with someone who can't even have an intelligent conversation and be questioned on what they post on this site. Anything that can't be explained is either Stupid or just hated. I have said enough, this isn't worth anymore of my time or anyones.
I'm a Vietnam Vet with a Iraq war vet daughter,does that make me a great military expert asshole? The answer of course is no.However,it doesn't make me a right wing lunatic warmonger either.You made no points except you are a name caller pwned by your ignorance and stupidity.This group on this video are a pro war forever group and for you to mention them with the USO or VFW is totally asinine.
Once a group begins to stabilize with a common theme and "slogan", the other forms a group with such a similar name to create confusion. There are so many people who have not yet woken up to what is going on, but are starting to question.. then they run into false truth. It's so exhausting just trying to even keep a small group of friends informed. This one amazes me. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the post buddy, is this Alex Jones? He sounds exhausted, and I'm sure he is. Exposing crooks, murderers, assholes and lameos in this day and age is a never ending and thankless job.
they will try and divide us-WE THE PEOPLE- they are succeeding. ONLY support the Constitution, not the party,forget the party,we need patriots:those who defend the Constitution. Forget the divisive brainwashing,Bushco supports foreign dictators before our Constitution,freedom and democracy for botswana or congo is more important than freedom and democracy at home. Be rid of these scurvy rats!!
To sfradia: Hate to say it, but Americans are ALREADY divided with such nonsense as "African American," "Hispanic American," "Muslim American." Aren't we all AMERICAN FIRST?!
BTW this war has nothing to do with keeping America free, if you want to do THAT get the troops back here to fight the scum who are fukkin our Constitution,yes, that means to fight Bushco and his paramilitary drug dealers, the CIA,on our Homeland.The scum who threatened homeowners during Katrina your terrorists are in washington raping us under the guise of "patriot" acts . Keep the national guard half way around the world while these born again pedophiles steal the wealth of the country.
I'm a journalist by trade-- I've published many, many articles about the importance of remembering the sacrifice of those who have gone to war. I write often about war memorials, and anniversaries of historic battles.
The more we remember, the less likely we are to fall for these same tired old lies again.
The First World War, btw, was often called The War to End All Wars. It was a lie then, and it's a lie now.
Seems to me the biggest skewers of the truth in this country, if not by omission, then by outright lies , is the media and journalist community. I do not believe that anyone in this arena can contain their bias or political agenda.I am from New York where the Berkeley matter was not considered prime time news. I wonder why ? I appreciate your articles remembering vets.But, I remain cynical and disillusioned by these people.And, I question their motives.
I very much respect our rank and file people in the military. I do not however believe America has the right to intervene in other country's around the world, unless another country either attacks us or attempts to do so. I am 55 and know how to shoot, I would fight any and all invaders to the death. I also feel one of our boys being killed to make a few people wealthy is unconscionable. Our leaders can't even run this country, look at the graft and dishonesty in government.
It seems that there is a lot of confusion between supporting the war and supporting our troops. I have not seen one negative comment regarding our troops but have seen several posts referring to supposed insults & denegration of our troops. Just because someone is opposed to this war, does not mean they do not have the upmost love and respect for those who are risking their lives and missing time with their loved ones over in Iraq.
There is no doubt there are two WARs out there and third one on Iran is in making.Armed forces are duty bound to follow,what ever fair or foul order is given to them,there is no disdain or unorderly steps on boots on ground. Haliburton or black water uncontested contracts may not be blamed on coalition forces. WARs will go on till American high command will want the forces to be out there.
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
ANYONE living in Berkley will be allowed to join the marines. They should contact their US congressperson or their senator to do this...
My support 4 operations in Afghan. are waning greatly. Because Bush and Cheney were never really interested in getting OBL. They were more interested in Iraq. As Rummy said "there is nothing to bomb in Afghan./we don't do mountains."
6 years and are we any closer to getting Bin Laden?
Any Marine in Iraq is NOT PROTECTING YOUR ASS OR MY ASS.....
Berkeley wants anyone who wants to become a Marine Corps officer, to go and look for Osama, anyone from Berkeley that is, to contact their US congressperson or their Senator if they want to join?
Why in heaven's name would Berkeley require THAT? No one else in the United States does.
Your twisted convoluted thoughts convert what I actually said to what you want to talk about.I never said anything about your ass , dude. I said something about your SORRY ass.
Osama works for bushco the biggest drug dealing op in the world,do your homework, or maybe all you read are the comic book training manuals. BTW,the troops are sent over there so they CANNOT defend the Constitution the traitors in washington have trashed.I can protect my own ass, can YOU
As far as I know, Obama is not and was not a member of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the Neo-Conservative think-tank that had been pushing for war with Saddam as far back as 1998. The PNAC tried to push Clinton into a war with Iraq in 1998 and failed.
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
oh yeah and he's not the president either, the rigged election was a complete fraud that shitbag lost by over 3 million votes, go find the fact doughbrains,maybe find out who karl roves grandpa was then spout arbeit macht frei before you act so ignorant dear "conservative patriots" you have destroyed freedom with your stupidity, that's all the troops are fighting for,to preserve your stupidity!
pelosi screwed us, she is in the scum camp, is she also CFR,I think she works for them,that is, not for the people who elected her. The war criminals have to be dealt with before they try to kill us all. yes, IMPEACH PELOSI, she is too scared to do her job,now she only protects her own ass,and lets her country die at the hands of the NWO criminals, she's like a dirty cop who looks the other way after being entrusted with power.
Gee whiz, lorn, ole boy, & here I thought you libs were the whiners...want some cheese with that?Hanging chads,LOLOLOL! Go back to sulking in your corner, bub. Better still, join the Code Pinkies, along w/Hanoi Jane Fonda & we PATRIOTS will ship your butts to communist China; try to exercise your right to free speech there. You'd be shot for treason in a New York minute. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and Berzerkely is just a repeat, like on t.v.
Hanoi Jane is still a Traitor, so actually it's very timely. Yeah, and the Roman empire fell, too. And with libs like you, American won't be far behind.
Do you differentiate between pro-war and not afraid to go to war if necessary?
Your definition of liberal must be very narrow indeed. I agree with you about sending soldiers anywhere to accomplish anything if what you mean by liberal is pacifist.
The contractors, military supplier and the politicians love the war... it gives them something to do and way to make lots of money quickly...
REMEMBER THE FOUNDER FATHERS WORRIED ABOUT ENTANGLING ALLIANCES THE INEVITABLY LEAD TO STUPID WARS? Why do I have to keep tutoriing conservatives ON BASIC AMERICAN HISTORY????
You have so many problems with cognition I am beginning to see what is fundamentally wrong with you. You simply can't think.
You say certain people love war, or the profits from war. Which are two completely different things to begin with. And then you start ranting about the founding fathers and entangling alliances as if you were Ron Paul or someone. You are so totally removed from reality that I don't think I can help you here, dude..
the so called "conservatives" aren't conservative, they give their ass to anyone in their church if he looks like a preacher, the proles are sheep, and they will be slaughtered, and not by a raghead in a cave on the other side of the world, by a Blackwater mercenary workin for daddy hitler in the name of christ.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002
The only soldiers liberals ever supported were the phony soldiers, like Jesse Macbeth. As for the real soldiers, liberals call them murderers and Nazis.
dude we were going there like it or not sooner or later .Ijust came back this jan my 5th time its getting better .besides some jack off sent me this bullshit
The Republican controlled House of Representatives would never impeach a lousy REpublican president. Not after they stupidly impeached Clinton for lying about a blowjob.
Besides the Republicans went with Bush's lies on Iraq and voted - ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY - in favor of the war. Wild Man Ron Paul isn't even willing to go as far as impeachment even though he claims Bush's actions are unconstitutional.
Ralphdraw3; Leave the poor Stooge alone. He is a 41 year-old Jr. High School drop-out anti-social inbred agoraphobic shut-in living in his moms basement in a small Ozarks town in Arkansas.
I would explain a response from earlier, but seeing as you are Democrat, you don't care about the truth. Much like when CBS was caught with their pants down after those fake documents.
You libs are chickenhawks. You didn't fight when Clinton blew up Kosovo. You weren't in Rwanda. You sat on your butts when Clinton got us involved in Haiti. And not a single Clinton supporter suited up during Operation Desert Fox.
As you may not have been aware, before Bush "ordered the troops into battle" he had to get approval. He got that approval from both Republican AND DEMOCRATIC Senators.
When you put an argument together choosing to ignore facts that destroy your argument, you become foolish... as does your argument.
This video really sucks. And, so does Berkeley.People like you are doing more to damage this country than the terrorists! You dishonor our service men and women. Who have more honor and understanding of reality then you and your kind ever will.
This nation was founded on the backs of military efforts against an oppressive regime in England.
We have fought against many who would have gladly torn us asunder. Worked very hard in fact to do just that. We answered the call to protect ourselves from those who use military force to impose their will not only on America but on their own people.
You Berzerkelites need to decide if you support your own country or not.
When I saw this site was still here, and saw your post, I just felt like responding a little.
I live in Hillsborough, over by Burlingame?, maybe you have heard of it? Nah, maybe not. You guys are so self-absorbed over there in LaLa land with your convoluted obtuse abstruse thought processes and your "superior" intellects that you may not know there even IS anyplace else. Berkeley. Berzerkeley. A Nut Bowl.
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
That's about all you do. "Is say ". This "big talker" walked the walk 40 yrs. ago. I know what combat is. What do you know other than spouting anti-American drivel ?
Bush had already moved troops into place in Kuwait by October 2002. In fact, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started to pull troops out of Afghanistan as early as January of 2002 and move them to Kuwait.
Bush and Cheney began lying about Iraq's WMD in August and Semptember of 2002.
Clinton should've been impeached, as he did absolutely NOTHING about the first Twin Tower bombing, attack on the USS Coale, etc. All he did was denigrate OUR White House by getting b.j.'s from an intern. Not to mention he LIED bigger than a rug. I HATE a liar!
lol yeah i got the same thing in my e-mail... and if it wasnt iraq it would have been iran. but wether the war is right or wrong that is way beyond the point now... our armed forces are bearing the brunt of all of this and we need to give em 100% with whatever we can :D
hey i was in balad also dude whats your point ? this is kinda bullshit if you ask me.due to being suportive of our troops is bad now ?Great you called there office?
my point is all these liberals keep smearing the armed forces when their main focus should be to change politics not attack the burden carriers. and where did i say supporting the troops was bad?
this video is both stupid and absurd. pro-death? what cave did you crawl out of? hate W all you want but quit bringing the Armed Forces into you weak attempts of comparing heathen terrorists to right wingers? or maybe you are asking for terrorist tactics be used on you? move to mexico since its so bad here... move to kuwait... see how better you do overthere. I talk to US troops on a daily basis here in Balad... they dont appreciate your misguided views about them and the war. hate bush.ONLY!
might be wrong might make more terrorists... blaming our armed forces and talking crap all day long without so much as setting foot in iraq to go meet the troops is just weak.
They are doing nothing for me in Iraq as far as I am concerned. I did not support the war in 2003 and I don't support it now. It is wrong and immoral.
As a matter of fact The Phony Chickenhawk "Move America Forward" has it wrong - the Marines are pulling out of Iraq and going to Afghanistan.
pulling out of iraq? where do you get your info? man you need to seriuosly get your info right. The shop infront of wher i work has shipments of new MRAP's each day... and guess who takes delivery??? MARINES!!!! so shut up already
like i said you are ignorant and weak... get your info right. all your weak ass pliticians voted against the war? well obviously it didnt do them any good... pelosi is just a carboard cutout... she aint worth the weight of shit
You Democrats are the liars. Anti-war my ass, here's what your party said:
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
the bezerkley fiasco is not a pro/anti war/military hawk/dove liberal/neocon issue what so ever.
it is a free speech issue. closed minded fascist liberals are upset for the same reason closed minded fascist conservatives get up set when they see shirtless men in tutus and hard hats march down the street in a gay pride parade.
they do not understand...nor do they care to try.
STOP SMOKING AND START READING (and take a shower)
Third, there are many more current and former military personnel who are FOR Completing the War with Succes
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See Iraq Veterans Against the War
Ralphdraw3 2 years ago
Where's the rest of my comments F-wad! "SEE THE REAL MILITARY, instead of a coalition of a MINORITY in the military!"
The Dems passed the DE-stimulus bill with No Support from the American people. Even the Congressional Budget Office (who rates legislation for a living) said this bill will make the economic problems WORSE. Harry Reid says to "Pray" that the bill works because even HE doesn't know if it will work. Now THAT'S Liberal mentality for you. Delete THIS (U CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!)
yankeekack 2 years ago
Delete THIS (U CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!)
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Got weapons of mass destruction?
ON BLOCK
get off your ass a make your own video, schmart guy..
Ralphdraw3 2 years ago
Truth and Reconciliation Commission
and Bush war crimes -
see Senator Leahy's video here at YouTube..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
"See a psychiatrist!"
yankeekack 2 years ago
"See Senator Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee"
Ralphdraw3 2 years ago
deleted "yank" sorry..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Yes, you are "sorry"! You don't like what I say and you delete it? Just like a true liberal! You close your ears and run the other way when someone starts to make sense.
You have enough Socialist movement in your Dem party now to control the WH AND Congress. You liberal pukes are getting your wish of destoying this country. Part I was this worthless DE-stimulous bill that Congress just passed. If I were still in the military, I would get out rather than saluting the current CIC!
yankeekack 2 years ago
What's with the military service questions of MAF? What is your military service to our country dipwad? I'm a veteran. What's your record? Does MAF claim to have a military service background? Or do they just support what is logically RIGHT for this country in fixing what you liberal pukes have ruined in a good country? My President may have been bad, but your President is a SOCIALIST! Read the context of the Obamanation De-stimulus bill that takes away healthcare rights of seniors...
yankeekack 3 years ago
Dear Dipwad,
MAF is a bunch of cowards and money-people NOT VETERANS.
On the other hand, the Iraq Veterans Against the War and Vote Vets ARE VETERANS.
BTW your president Bush is a LIAR AND A CRIMINAL AND A DRAFT-DODGER...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Get off your ass and get an Icon... LOL maybe even upload a video!!!
BTW; deleted and blocked..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
it doesnt matter if you are in the military it only manners if you support them or not. does anyone on you tube unedrstand if it wasnt for the u.s military which the right wing protacts we all would be speaking german so before you criticise americas troops think where you would be without them if germany took over forget it about it there would be no such thing of free speech
semper Fi code pink
justin15marine 3 years ago
you obviously don't know what a "military draft" is. It's how we won WW2.... no 5 draft deferments (DICK Cheney) for people during WWII and no ducking into the National Guard during WWII.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
You really think there were enough German troops to occupy Europe AND come up with enough resources to invade a huge country accross the Atlantic?
Every able bodied man would have joined the Militia and repelled any German aggresssion. It was not necessary to send troops to die in Europe to protect the US. You are completely wrong.
dus777 3 years ago
Go ARMY! Artillery, King of battle!
this sounds like something a jarhead would say, but hey Glad to have you serve! however Chickenhawks don't get the same treatment, I served and you serve now, everyone supports the troops but. Cheney is a coward, Bush is a coward, and AWOL to boot. You don't have to be conservative to serve but you do have to be a conservative to support the war and get 5 deferments when it was your turn to guard your post.
You are better than that, and them.
WHOA!
press1500 3 years ago
Nice one.
rodneykingman 3 years ago 2
All you lib dems on here can BITE ME. This is the only country in the free world where you can spout off your treasonous b.s. and not get shot for it. There will be a very special place in hell waiting for you. Trust me on that one.
And if I don't see ya here, I'll see ya, hear?
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
all you CHICKENHAWK CONS can BITE ME:
shut up and call
1-800-USA-ARMY
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Good job, Ralphdraw3! Worthless pieces of S**t!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
just go to the phone!!!
operators are standing by!
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
actually, there are lots of countries where you're free to say whatever you want. Sorry to break it to you.
and there are lots of countries where you can't be free. and the U.S. gov't supports a lot of those countries govt's.
learn a few facts, rather than spouting this tired, empty, useless rhetoric.
lornstar6 3 years ago
oh-- the comment below, btw, was in response to scootertrashgirl's latest illiterate uninformed rant.
as i said before, scooter-- get a few facts. a few real ideas other than your "liberal suck and hate america" crap. otherwise, run along and let the grown ups talk.
lornstar6 3 years ago
Have you checked these folks out? DO you know what exactly they support? They support a lot more then nuking Berkeley. They support fascism and extremest censorship. They spent much time, money and energy trying to have Michael Moore movies banned in the USA. They actually went to individual theaters and tried to influence them to not play them. Also they spent millions to make a movie in response to Ferinheight 9/11 with Disney but it was shelved because of conflicting interest.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
They also attempted (very intensely) to have NATO (our allies) permanently evicted form the United States calling them terrorists... NATO... The only organization that assists us in time of war and conflict and the only organization that would assist us if we were attacked... NATO. Much of NATO is severely against us because of Iraq anyway, some countries blatantly refuse to participate, but then to add insult to injury there's always the kind folk at the MAF (Move America toward Fascism)
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Also; when you look up who their website is registered to; it is registered to one of the biggest lobbyist firms for the GOP. Soon as this was made public (the same day) it was re-registered and a phone number for a downtown Sacramento pub was used as the contact phone number. Real honest folk huh... Does any of this make you question their integrity or intentions?
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Thanks for the information...
I did not know anything about this group (before I made the video) except they were conservative Republicans in California..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
These people aren't conservative Republicans man. That's what they are trying to lead people to believe. Conservative republicans are like Ron Paul by every sense of the definition of the word. There people are neo-con fanatic neo-nazi white supremacist fascists and nothing else.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
mmm so u dont support america well if u think it sucks so much than leave i mean nothing is keeping your here you know what you could live in iraq right or in cuba where they have no rights
frado2jr 3 years ago
Yep. That's exactly what I said friend. You got it. And you are 100% completely illiterate. If you could read, you would see clearly by what was written is that it is the Move America to Fascism (MAF) group that does not support America, clearly. Learn to read. It's good for your brain and stuff...
rodneykingman 3 years ago
do you not know what fascism is it when A person hold a dictaorship over a country by telling them what to do how to act and stripping them of all thir right. its not my fault that michial moore is a dick head if u look he is more repubican than geroge bush i.e. have stock in Haliberton
frado2jr 3 years ago
Michael Moore is a film maker, an artist. Nothing else. He has a right to his freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and the freedom to make a living by making and selling his art. This is a very basic constitutional American freedom. This is the most core, basic thing that this fine country is built upon. This is what makes America America. This is what makes us proud of who we are. This is what makes us who we are. This is liberty and freedom.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Besides he is quite good at making his art and $725,000,000 worth of people agree. How much money do you or MAF make? You can judge a man by his art and I do believe three-quarters a billion dollars is quite a judge. I do understand fascism, completely. And what MAF does and acts out is fascism in it's purist form. Your definition is incorrect. You don't need to be a dictator or rule a country to be a fascist. That sounds like a definition a 6th or 7th grader would give.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Remember Hitler was a nobody for more than half his life. The MAF are fascists by every word of the definition. They are more than likely white supremacist also. I have seen their entire group many times and never seen other than white folks. You know as well as I do that these people love nothing better what they believe and that what they believe is the only possible thing that could be true and correct.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
They truly believe with all their hearts and minds that everyone that doesn't believe what they believe is a (to quote their "leaders") "piece of shit" "communist" "pinko" "motherfucker" "bastard" or a "liberal". And they would surly love nothing but to "strip people of all their rights". This is what they are attempting to do on a daily basis. This is the actual entire reason for their organization. Wether it's NATO, Michael Moore, Code Pink, and the list goes on.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
They would love to round all these people up and everyone that THEY FEEL is even the slightest bit "unpatriotic" and "throw them in a concentration camp" (by their own words.) This my friend is fascism and nothing else. Argue with me, please, so you can prove yourself a fascist too.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
ok so what your saying is the the American goovernment is taking away all fo your right and freedom of speech?
frado2jr 3 years ago
Are you in anyway aware of what is happening, what we are talking about or what this video is about here? Move America to Fascism (MAF) is not a government group nor are any of it's "leaders" associated with the government nor even veterans. This video and discussion is about MAF.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Groups like Move America Forward are gasping for air. As a conservative who against this war from day one, I cant tell you how glad I am that Morgan was fired. Neo-con filth like her, Hannity, and McCain have ruined the GOP to such an extent that I just might have to vote for Obama just to prevent a war with Iran from occuring. Anti-war conservatives are a growing silent majority and there is no way in hell we will let McCain win.
KingDrudge 3 years ago
Do you know under what circumstances Morgan was fired?
rodneykingman 3 years ago
No i dont, tell me if you dont mind.
KingDrudge 3 years ago
I don't know, I was askin'.
rodneykingman 3 years ago 2
I assume because she is an inbred, red-necked, white supremacist, fascist pig-fucker...
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Ralph, When your left of clinton your on the fringe. I see your an Obama Supporter which in my opinion is one step away from Communisim or Socialisim. Bye the way, what is your Military Background? Do you have to be a Patriot to serve in the Military? As someone who serverd proudly in the US Navy, non-partisians, pro-military groups have long supported my ability to do my Job without prejudice: US0,VFW and American Legion, for example. Would you shout down those org's?
mballou 3 years ago
1) Clinton is losing to Obama at this point, as well she should be
2) My military background is exactly the same as War Mongers Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and Paul Wolfowitz!!!!
3) This group is NOT NON-Partisan. THEY SUPPORT GEORGE BUSH, THE REPUBLICANS AND GEORGE BUSH'S STUPID WAR IN IRAQ...
4) As General/President Eisenhower was worried, I too am worried about the U.S.'s military industrial complex WAR FOR FUN AND PROFIT..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
I think I over estimated your ability to think beyond just hatred of America. There is no reasoning with someone who can't even have an intelligent conversation and be questioned on what they post on this site. Anything that can't be explained is either Stupid or just hated. I have said enough, this isn't worth anymore of my time or anyones.
mballou 3 years ago
1) Don't listen to me
LISTEN TO THAT CRUMBY GUY EISENHOWER - HE HATED AMERICA JUST LIKE I HATE AMERICA!!!
I underestimated the sheep-like behavior of the supporters of George Bush and the Iraq war...
You folks will walk over the edge of a cliff and fall to your deaths for Dumbya Bush
SO SAD....
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
You hate America? THEN F**KING LEAVE!!!!! PLEASE!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
Nope,
I hate George Bush and Dick Cheney and how they have dragged the country down....
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
I'm a Vietnam Vet with a Iraq war vet daughter,does that make me a great military expert asshole? The answer of course is no.However,it doesn't make me a right wing lunatic warmonger either.You made no points except you are a name caller pwned by your ignorance and stupidity.This group on this video are a pro war forever group and for you to mention them with the USO or VFW is totally asinine.
blair227 3 years ago
YOU are an IDIOT, and sadly misinformed and mislead....and a traitor to boot.
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
when you're left of clinton you're on the fringe?
there's 6.2 billion people in the world who aren't american, and an awful lot of them (a few billion, probably) are waaaay left of clinton.
my military background is also similar to Bush and Co. except i didn't dodge the draft due to a rich daddy.
lornstar6 3 years ago
some people are willing to fight to teh last frop of everyone elses blood!
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Once a group begins to stabilize with a common theme and "slogan", the other forms a group with such a similar name to create confusion. There are so many people who have not yet woken up to what is going on, but are starting to question.. then they run into false truth. It's so exhausting just trying to even keep a small group of friends informed. This one amazes me. Thanks for sharing.
EmelinaChaCha 3 years ago
Thanks for the post buddy, is this Alex Jones? He sounds exhausted, and I'm sure he is. Exposing crooks, murderers, assholes and lameos in this day and age is a never ending and thankless job.
thewhitetrashmuseum 3 years ago
I can't hear you well enough to draw a bead on what you're saying here.
Agent99 3 years ago
they will try and divide us-WE THE PEOPLE- they are succeeding. ONLY support the Constitution, not the party,forget the party,we need patriots:those who defend the Constitution. Forget the divisive brainwashing,Bushco supports foreign dictators before our Constitution,freedom and democracy for botswana or congo is more important than freedom and democracy at home. Be rid of these scurvy rats!!
sfradia 3 years ago
To sfradia: Hate to say it, but Americans are ALREADY divided with such nonsense as "African American," "Hispanic American," "Muslim American." Aren't we all AMERICAN FIRST?!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
BTW this war has nothing to do with keeping America free, if you want to do THAT get the troops back here to fight the scum who are fukkin our Constitution,yes, that means to fight Bushco and his paramilitary drug dealers, the CIA,on our Homeland.The scum who threatened homeowners during Katrina your terrorists are in washington raping us under the guise of "patriot" acts . Keep the national guard half way around the world while these born again pedophiles steal the wealth of the country.
sfradia 3 years ago
I'm in the camp of utubedaveG.
I'm a journalist by trade-- I've published many, many articles about the importance of remembering the sacrifice of those who have gone to war. I write often about war memorials, and anniversaries of historic battles.
The more we remember, the less likely we are to fall for these same tired old lies again.
The First World War, btw, was often called The War to End All Wars. It was a lie then, and it's a lie now.
lornstar6 3 years ago
Seems to me the biggest skewers of the truth in this country, if not by omission, then by outright lies , is the media and journalist community. I do not believe that anyone in this arena can contain their bias or political agenda.I am from New York where the Berkeley matter was not considered prime time news. I wonder why ? I appreciate your articles remembering vets.But, I remain cynical and disillusioned by these people.And, I question their motives.
softail005 3 years ago
I very much respect our rank and file people in the military. I do not however believe America has the right to intervene in other country's around the world, unless another country either attacks us or attempts to do so. I am 55 and know how to shoot, I would fight any and all invaders to the death. I also feel one of our boys being killed to make a few people wealthy is unconscionable. Our leaders can't even run this country, look at the graft and dishonesty in government.
utubedaveg 3 years ago
It seems that there is a lot of confusion between supporting the war and supporting our troops. I have not seen one negative comment regarding our troops but have seen several posts referring to supposed insults & denegration of our troops. Just because someone is opposed to this war, does not mean they do not have the upmost love and respect for those who are risking their lives and missing time with their loved ones over in Iraq.
shgadeliq 3 years ago
It sucks the big weinerschnitzel. Period. Lib propaganda b.s.
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
There is no doubt there are two WARs out there and third one on Iran is in making.Armed forces are duty bound to follow,what ever fair or foul order is given to them,there is no disdain or unorderly steps on boots on ground. Haliburton or black water uncontested contracts may not be blamed on coalition forces. WARs will go on till American high command will want the forces to be out there.
Fixhist 3 years ago
You're full of shit. Move On = communist, anti-american, crooked and corrupt, supports the demonRATs....
BUSH RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ISLAMOFASCISTS ARE ON THE RUN...THE JIHADISTS ARE LOSING.
Micaiah2004 3 years ago
Aw, shut up and go to Fallujah or Najah...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
How about communist China, LOL! And take Hanoi Jane Fonda with them, too!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
Ralphdraw and lonestar are both from Canada for Christ's sake.
Had I known that I wouldn't have bothered to comment on this stupid thread at all.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
agreed, Canada?!
mballou 3 years ago
Tamarlane:
My questions to you - did Bush and Cheney and Rice and Rummy lie to the nation to get us into war in Iraq?????????
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
I'm looking for your answer here Ralphdraw3.
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
ANYONE living in Berkley will be allowed to join the marines. They should contact their US congressperson or their senator to do this...
My support 4 operations in Afghan. are waning greatly. Because Bush and Cheney were never really interested in getting OBL. They were more interested in Iraq. As Rummy said "there is nothing to bomb in Afghan./we don't do mountains."
6 years and are we any closer to getting Bin Laden?
Any Marine in Iraq is NOT PROTECTING YOUR ASS OR MY ASS.....
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Berkeley wants anyone who wants to become a Marine Corps officer, to go and look for Osama, anyone from Berkeley that is, to contact their US congressperson or their Senator if they want to join?
Why in heaven's name would Berkeley require THAT? No one else in the United States does.
Your twisted convoluted thoughts convert what I actually said to what you want to talk about.I never said anything about your ass , dude. I said something about your SORRY ass.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
Osama works for bushco the biggest drug dealing op in the world,do your homework, or maybe all you read are the comic book training manuals. BTW,the troops are sent over there so they CANNOT defend the Constitution the traitors in washington have trashed.I can protect my own ass, can YOU
sfradia 3 years ago
As far as I know, Obama is not and was not a member of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the Neo-Conservative think-tank that had been pushing for war with Saddam as far back as 1998. The PNAC tried to push Clinton into a war with Iraq in 1998 and failed.
ImpeachPelosi 3 years ago
if u think it's okay for soldiers to kill eachother, then join a war.
if u don't your a chickenhawk pussy.
ut00bguru 3 years ago
I have a question for you Ralphdraw3
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
Point #1:
Move America Forward is fraudulent, Republican propaganda machine.
Point #2:
I invite you and the folks at MAF to join the Army if they support the war in Iraq, support Dubya, and support the troops.
Here is the number - 1-800-USA-ARMY
btw Your president is a fraud, draft-dodger and a liar, as is your vice president...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
oh yeah and he's not the president either, the rigged election was a complete fraud that shitbag lost by over 3 million votes, go find the fact doughbrains,maybe find out who karl roves grandpa was then spout arbeit macht frei before you act so ignorant dear "conservative patriots" you have destroyed freedom with your stupidity, that's all the troops are fighting for,to preserve your stupidity!
sfradia 3 years ago
Do you support impeachment of Cheney and/or Bush???
ImpeachPelosi 3 years ago
pelosi screwed us, she is in the scum camp, is she also CFR,I think she works for them,that is, not for the people who elected her. The war criminals have to be dealt with before they try to kill us all. yes, IMPEACH PELOSI, she is too scared to do her job,now she only protects her own ass,and lets her country die at the hands of the NWO criminals, she's like a dirty cop who looks the other way after being entrusted with power.
sfradia 3 years ago
Oh, please, spare me any more crap about "hanging chads." Libs are such crybabies!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
well, scooter person, so far everyone comment you['ve posted on here been whiny, and you have yet to add anything in the way of facts, logic, etc.
based on you, i would say all non-libs are whiners... and ones who get all their info from 1960's newspapers, at that.
lornstar6 3 years ago
Gee whiz, lorn, ole boy, & here I thought you libs were the whiners...want some cheese with that?Hanging chads,LOLOLOL! Go back to sulking in your corner, bub. Better still, join the Code Pinkies, along w/Hanoi Jane Fonda & we PATRIOTS will ship your butts to communist China; try to exercise your right to free speech there. You'd be shot for treason in a New York minute. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and Berzerkely is just a repeat, like on t.v.
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
as i said, no facts beyond some hopelessly outdated slurs.
those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it, yep.
which is why the US is drawing the world (and itself) into another useless, expensive, bloody foreign war.
learn about ancient Greece.
or... just keep spouting this same tired drivel about Jane Fonda.
lornstar6 3 years ago
Hanoi Jane is still a Traitor, so actually it's very timely. Yeah, and the Roman empire fell, too. And with libs like you, American won't be far behind.
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
so, you're somehow drawing a parallel between "hanoi jane" and the war on terror?
how? i'm baffled.
here's a fact for ya-- a real, scary, fact.
in 1985, saddam was "our greatest ally in the arab world". (Reagan said that). This was six months AFTER he used WMD's on his own people.
reagan was a traitor. bush is a traitor.
hanoi jane? she's just a fool.
p.s. it's 2008. if you got something 2008 to say, say it.
otherwise pipe down and let the grown-ups talk.
lornstar6 3 years ago
Move Forward is an American organization, but Move On is a DISGRACEFUL COMMUNIST IDIOTIC ORGANIZATION. WAKE UP, ASSHOLE!!!
Micaiah2004 3 years ago
I like you how the pro-war camp never has anything to say beyond this type of thing.
No facts, no logic, just a good sturdy "shut the F up if you don't agree with me."
There's a word for that. It's facism.
lornstar6 3 years ago
There is no such thing as a pro-war camp.
Liberals insist on imposing their views on the rest of us, it is called liberal fascism.
Your word, facism, is not a word at all.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
Well, I can't remember the last time a bunch of liberals sent a bazillion soldiers somewhere to impose their views, but hey, whatevs.
And if you think there isn't a pro-war camp, pull your head out of whatever it's stuck in.
(p.s. comma splice, grammar boy).
lornstar6 3 years ago
lonestar6.
Do you differentiate between pro-war and not afraid to go to war if necessary?
Your definition of liberal must be very narrow indeed. I agree with you about sending soldiers anywhere to accomplish anything if what you mean by liberal is pacifist.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
Yeah? Have you forgotten Pres. Johnson???? In the sixties???? A Lib Dem, no less.
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
Have you forgotten Eisenhower?
conservative Republican, no less
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
By today's right-wing standards, Eisenhower is left of Marx!
Vierotchka 3 years ago
yes, you republicans TOTALLY forgot eisenhower.
he warned in his farewell adress about the military-industrial-complex and the risks of power abuse within this field.
he once said of course it shouldnt be spent one CENT more on defense than necessary.
look what you have become.
deguowatao 3 years ago
The contractors, military supplier and the politicians love the war... it gives them something to do and way to make lots of money quickly...
REMEMBER THE FOUNDER FATHERS WORRIED ABOUT ENTANGLING ALLIANCES THE INEVITABLY LEAD TO STUPID WARS? Why do I have to keep tutoriing conservatives ON BASIC AMERICAN HISTORY????
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
No one loves war.
Even Roosevelts dog hated war.
You have so many problems with cognition I am beginning to see what is fundamentally wrong with you. You simply can't think.
You say certain people love war, or the profits from war. Which are two completely different things to begin with. And then you start ranting about the founding fathers and entangling alliances as if you were Ron Paul or someone. You are so totally removed from reality that I don't think I can help you here, dude..
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
You have a big problem with - block-headedness.
I suggest you review President Eisenhower's speech on the "military industrial complex" given in 1961 AND TRY TO LEARN SOMETHING...
Your ignorance of Rumself's and Cheney's plans to go to war with Iraq before the 9-11 attack are all too apparent.
Basically, you are clueless.
Dismissed, good bye!
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Excellent!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago 2
the so called "conservatives" aren't conservative, they give their ass to anyone in their church if he looks like a preacher, the proles are sheep, and they will be slaughtered, and not by a raghead in a cave on the other side of the world, by a Blackwater mercenary workin for daddy hitler in the name of christ.
sfradia 3 years ago
Who did you vote for in 2000 and 2004 for president?
ImpeachPelosi 3 years ago
dont have anything to say about the video?
i think its quit interesting and funny ^^
deguowatao 3 years ago
I guess you have to be former military to "really" support the troops or you're a phoney... like Clinton was.
Liberals don't really know what they want, they just like to complain about how they wish things were.
thebrush03 3 years ago
well you dont even share your opinion about this vid here, so WTF you doin here?
yeah sure, we liberals are of course all the same and just as bad as u said.
i guess in your view, if one is not a shitkicker from kansas he's with the terrorists ^^
deguowatao 3 years ago
Newsflash:
The 1950's are long gone;
Senator Joe McCarthy is dead and has been for quite some time;
The USSR is no longer;
China has gone cut-throat capitalist with a strong dash of socialism thrown in, to steer the capitalist machine in the right direction;
Welcome to the new millenium - the 21st century
WAKE UP!!!
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Yeah, but who needs facts when you can just fall back on hateful rhetoric? It's so much easier.
lornstar6 3 years ago
GOP platform:
Surrender to fear
Massive deficit spending
What else is new? Some things never change.
RonPaulGeorgeRingo 3 years ago
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Ted Kennedy was getting the all the lies from the NeoCon Bushies and Ahmed Chalabi that the American people were getting.
Kennedy voted against and opposed the war in Iraq.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Ralph, if liberals like you existed during WWII, you would have demanded that FDR and Truman be put on trial for war crimes.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Young fella,
here is that phone number again:
1-800-USA-ARMY
Your talking points are beginning to bore me greatly.
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Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
i did it for 9 years you moron... i hope you do get tired... maybe you will leave youtube all together
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
The only soldiers liberals ever supported were the phony soldiers, like Jesse Macbeth. As for the real soldiers, liberals call them murderers and Nazis.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
dude we were going there like it or not sooner or later .Ijust came back this jan my 5th time its getting better .besides some jack off sent me this bullshit
cjcable393 3 years ago
Dude,
Bush and Cheney are liars - they belong in jail..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
If Bush lied, so did Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Levin, Waxman, Gephardt, Berger, Albright, Kerry, Edwards...
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Pelosi voted against the war
Reid, Levin, Waxman voted against the war..
get a better talking point.
BTW: BUSH LIED TO THE CONGRESS; BUSH AND CHENEY SKEWED THE INTELL REPORTS TO CONGRESS
BUSH AND CHENEY SHOULD BE IMPEACHED
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Nice try, but read their quotes. Anyways, SAY NO TO WAR UNLESS A DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT!
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
There isn't enough hard evidence to prove your theory. If there was, George Bush would have been impeached long ago.
Try to get a grasp on the facts and reality, you'll seem less foolish~
By the way, do you find your friends avoiding you more and more?
thebrush03 3 years ago 2
way to go man :D
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
The Republican controlled House of Representatives would never impeach a lousy REpublican president. Not after they stupidly impeached Clinton for lying about a blowjob.
Besides the Republicans went with Bush's lies on Iraq and voted - ALMOST UNANIMOUSLY - in favor of the war. Wild Man Ron Paul isn't even willing to go as far as impeachment even though he claims Bush's actions are unconstitutional.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Ralphdraw3; Leave the poor Stooge alone. He is a 41 year-old Jr. High School drop-out anti-social inbred agoraphobic shut-in living in his moms basement in a small Ozarks town in Arkansas.
@@@@@@@@@
Stooge, this isn't true is it??
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
I would explain a response from earlier, but seeing as you are Democrat, you don't care about the truth. Much like when CBS was caught with their pants down after those fake documents.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Keep talking, Chickenhawk.....
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
You libs are chickenhawks. You didn't fight when Clinton blew up Kosovo. You weren't in Rwanda. You sat on your butts when Clinton got us involved in Haiti. And not a single Clinton supporter suited up during Operation Desert Fox.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Clinton did not lie every which way about Kosovo.
Also the Kosovo action was supported by all of our NATO allies...
try another lame talking point...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Bush is
1) Commander in Chief
2) Ordered the troops into battle - the buck stops with Dubya...
sorry
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
As you may not have been aware, before Bush "ordered the troops into battle" he had to get approval. He got that approval from both Republican AND DEMOCRATIC Senators.
When you put an argument together choosing to ignore facts that destroy your argument, you become foolish... as does your argument.
You may a great pair.
thebrush03 3 years ago
He does not have to get approval of Congress:
read the War Powers Act
Hint: get some talking points that have at least some basis in reality.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
This video really sucks. And, so does Berkeley.People like you are doing more to damage this country than the terrorists! You dishonor our service men and women. Who have more honor and understanding of reality then you and your kind ever will.
softail005 3 years ago
You know what I always say to big talkers like you:
call 1-800-USA-ARMY
BTW: Bush and Cheney DISHONOR THEIR SERVICE BY LYING TO THEM AND THE NATION...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Big Talkers like conservatives?
Liberals have nothing to say, right?
This nation was founded on the backs of military efforts against an oppressive regime in England.
We have fought against many who would have gladly torn us asunder. Worked very hard in fact to do just that. We answered the call to protect ourselves from those who use military force to impose their will not only on America but on their own people.
You Berzerkelites need to decide if you support your own country or not.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm a little pissed off this morning.
When I saw this site was still here, and saw your post, I just felt like responding a little.
I live in Hillsborough, over by Burlingame?, maybe you have heard of it? Nah, maybe not. You guys are so self-absorbed over there in LaLa land with your convoluted obtuse abstruse thought processes and your "superior" intellects that you may not know there even IS anyplace else. Berkeley. Berzerkeley. A Nut Bowl.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
I have a question for you Ralphdraw3
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
I have a question for you Ralphdraw3
Do you support our efforts to get Osama Bin Laden?
Do you support our efforts in Afghanistan?
So you think anyone living in Berkeley should be allowed to become a Marine Corps Officer?
Do you think it might be appropriate to accommodate that prospective Marine Corps Officer, willing to fight and die to protect your sorry ass, by permitting a Marine Corps Officer Recruiting Station to exist there, unmolested?
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
That's about all you do. "Is say ". This "big talker" walked the walk 40 yrs. ago. I know what combat is. What do you know other than spouting anti-American drivel ?
softail005 3 years ago
Drafted???
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Top contributor for Senator McCain...
Merril Lynch at $155,950.
Top contributor for Senator Obama...
Goldman Sachs at $421,763.
(Y'all want change? Maybe Goldman Sachs will loan you some.)
Top 3 contributors to Dr. Paul...
US Army, US Navy, US Air Force for a combined total of $178,264.
nuff said.
UnitedOffensiveIII 3 years ago
"Loyalty to your country, always.
Loyalty to your government when it deserves it."
--Mark Twain
lornstar6 3 years ago
Ralph, as you are aware, Bush got approval from Congress before sending troops to Iraq,
In this situation the War Powers Act wasn't used.
If you made that comment to show your intelligence you missed the mark.
Do you add meaningless information to every conversation you enter into?
thebrush03 3 years ago
Bush had already moved troops into place in Kuwait by October 2002. In fact, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld started to pull troops out of Afghanistan as early as January of 2002 and move them to Kuwait.
Bush and Cheney began lying about Iraq's WMD in August and Semptember of 2002.
They, of course, should be impeached...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Clinton should've been impeached, as he did absolutely NOTHING about the first Twin Tower bombing, attack on the USS Coale, etc. All he did was denigrate OUR White House by getting b.j.'s from an intern. Not to mention he LIED bigger than a rug. I HATE a liar!
scootertrashgirl1 3 years ago
How many draft deferments did Uncle Dick Cheney get from the Vietnam War???
How many draft deferments did Karl Rove get from the Vietnam War...
you conservatives are really a sick bunch....
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
lol yeah i got the same thing in my e-mail... and if it wasnt iraq it would have been iran. but wether the war is right or wrong that is way beyond the point now... our armed forces are bearing the brunt of all of this and we need to give em 100% with whatever we can :D
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
hey i was in balad also dude whats your point ? this is kinda bullshit if you ask me.due to being suportive of our troops is bad now ?Great you called there office?
cjcable393 3 years ago
my point is all these liberals keep smearing the armed forces when their main focus should be to change politics not attack the burden carriers. and where did i say supporting the troops was bad?
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
this video is both stupid and absurd. pro-death? what cave did you crawl out of? hate W all you want but quit bringing the Armed Forces into you weak attempts of comparing heathen terrorists to right wingers? or maybe you are asking for terrorist tactics be used on you? move to mexico since its so bad here... move to kuwait... see how better you do overthere. I talk to US troops on a daily basis here in Balad... they dont appreciate your misguided views about them and the war. hate bush.ONLY!
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
The war in Iraq is
wrong
immoral
based on lies
creating a new generation of terrorists
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
might be wrong might make more terrorists... blaming our armed forces and talking crap all day long without so much as setting foot in iraq to go meet the troops is just weak.
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
I oppose the war in Iraq.
They are doing nothing for me in Iraq as far as I am concerned. I did not support the war in 2003 and I don't support it now. It is wrong and immoral.
As a matter of fact The Phony Chickenhawk "Move America Forward" has it wrong - the Marines are pulling out of Iraq and going to Afghanistan.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
pulling out of iraq? where do you get your info? man you need to seriuosly get your info right. The shop infront of wher i work has shipments of new MRAP's each day... and guess who takes delivery??? MARINES!!!! so shut up already
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
Marines are going to Afghanistan and pulling out of Iraq..
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
like i said you are ignorant and weak... get your info right. all your weak ass pliticians voted against the war? well obviously it didnt do them any good... pelosi is just a carboard cutout... she aint worth the weight of shit
SAULSANCHEZ74 3 years ago
You and George Bush are liars...
Bush and Cheney are cowards and liars...
war criminals...
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
You Democrats are the liars. Anti-war my ass, here's what your party said:
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Colin Powell and Condi Rice in 2001 -
Iraq is not a military threat. His armed forces have been seriously degraded and he has not resumed producing WMD.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
See Powell and Rice quotes in 2001
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
the content of this video is irrelevant.
the bezerkley fiasco is not a pro/anti war/military hawk/dove liberal/neocon issue what so ever.
it is a free speech issue. closed minded fascist liberals are upset for the same reason closed minded fascist conservatives get up set when they see shirtless men in tutus and hard hats march down the street in a gay pride parade.
they do not understand...nor do they care to try.
STOP SMOKING AND START READING (and take a shower)
y0buddy 3 years ago
p.s. MAF, as mentioned, is censoring video and text responses to their video.
Afraid of reasonable debate? Afraid someone will hear the truth?
I don't need to, nor do I support censoring anyone--even hatemongers like MAF.
Clearly they don't want to extend the same courtesy.
So, let's bring freedom and democracy to far-away countries, and squash it here at home. Nice.
lornstar6 3 years ago
MAF:
afraid of "truth" and "reason"!!!!
ImpeachPelosi 3 years ago
What do liberals know about truth? They're afraid to support the military because George Soros and Howard Dean would cut them off!
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Here's the truth: BERKELEY HATES AMERICA!
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Bush and Cheney love money more than American lives.
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Clinton loves illegal Chinese donations more than America.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Clinton isn't president,
BUSH IS PRESIDENT, NOW....
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
But you're making an accusation about Bush supporters. So you should answer the question about why no Clinton supporters fought in Kosovo!
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Condi Rice, July 2001
"We are able to keep arms from him (Saddam) and he has not rebuilt his convention military forces."
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Wes Clark ring a bell?
Ralphdraw3 3 years ago
Stooge.
Looks like you have the situation well in hand here.
Keep up the good work.
Although, it is an effort in futility.
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
We missed ya at the Del...
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Can't we just---------get along?
TAMARLANE 3 years ago
Exactly.
That's why all us anti-war types be here.
rodneykingman 3 years ago
Trying to convince people who are smarter and more informed than you that they're wrong with your empty, angry rhetoric?
Yep. Sounds like futility.
lornstar6 3 years ago