This is the 2002 Missionary Ridge Fire outside of Durango Colorado. These are in fact tornadoes, created by the rotation of the plume. These tornadoes snapped of ponderosa pine stems several feet in diameter & toppled and set fire to vehicles parked in the "safe zone" in the dry lake bed of Vallecito reservoir. 1,706 fire fighters worked the fire. By the time the fire ended, it had consumed over 70,000 acres, destroyed 56 homes and had tragically claimed the life of one firefighter.
@shotgunbob909 Yeah dude, please read the video comment before you decide to spew stupid shit out of your face. The comment reads "fire whirl" it's a whirlwind of fire and/or smoke from the fire, created by the heat within a fire or firestorm.
@shotgunbob909 fundamental defference between a dust devil and a fire tornado: you can walk through most dust devil, but a fire tornado will burn you alive while picking you up tens of feet in the air
@shotgunbob909 the tornado was caused by the fires low pressure, we have dust devils in colorado too. Also dust devils dont rip big ass trees from their roots... That was one of the smaller tornados, the larges threw a 30 meter tree a 100 meters
ya nothing at all to do with global warming. I work for the Eastern Kentucky Div. of Forestry its caused by the hot air from the fire and cooler air around it. Large fires like that can produce their own weather. It has nothing to do with any type of tornado in the way you think.
If anyone is still actually curious, I'm almost positive this is the Missionary Ridge Fire of 2002 in SW Colorado. The fire whirl occurred when the fire reached the dry bed of Vallecito reservoir. While this is NOT an "official" tornado, it almost has honorary status as one since it cause the level of damage it did. Fire officials told evacuees to park whatever they couldn't bring with them (RVs, boats, etc) on the lake bed to keep them safe from the fire. It was a good idea, in theory...
This type of thing actually exists to the people saying it doesn't. Ever bother just looking it up instead of saying "Doesn't exist?" It's real and rare and dangerous.
to me it looks like it is leaving a smoke trail which is probally on fire..i would rather be by a normal tornado cause im sure this one would leave you crispy
fire whirl or five devil are fire tornadoes bty thats actually a fire convection get it right fire tornadoes suck cock waterspouts and water tornadoes dust devils are vacuumz
You spelled "abreviations" wrong. It's spelled with two b's not one. You're a joke. And since when was "bout" and "u" an abbreviation? Laugh out loud! Laugh out loud!
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There is a big difference between a dust devil, a fire whirl and a tornado. Do some research before you make yourself look like an idiot, Mr. genius123abc.
agreed, but careful what you say, the owner of this video and a certain Canadian on here will fight you tooth and nail if you claim that this isn't a tornado, just read the previous comments.
first of all we may have made jokes back and forth with greece for years, but in all we the turks love greeks. the people responsible for these fires are greek developpers they do this all the time in turkey. then they challenge the bylaws and develop the lands. they are pure evil, this act is pure evil. dont listen to one or two bad apples. turkish red cross is in greece so is this candar plane. we support greece in this tradegy. god bless all of you in this difficult time.
This is not unusual, and the formation of eddies is a very well known effect due to the strong production of heat and the creation of a local low pressure. Sometimes the low pressure system creates convection cells that entail even local rain from the condensation of masses of water vapour produced in the combustion. For further information, look for this in the scientific literature and in the main fire reports (i.e. Rothermel, Yellowstone 1988)
what is it then , we refer to these things as tornadoes, stop being such pathetic wannabes, lookin to top the next guy in line that refers to a fire tornado as such. Call it what you want, anyone who dont refer to it as a tornado though, is one pathetic loser
These can be extremely powerful, too. I saw on a tv documentary about twisters, and it showed huge fire tornadoes. The narrator said that one picked up a pick-up (no play on words intended), sucked out the passanger (the heat killed him instantaneously), and set the truck back down without hurting the driver. I'm very sorry for him, and hope I never have to get too close to one.
Theres no such thing as a fire tornado, I recon someones lit a fire and tricking people to think its a fire tornado. only dust devils, waterspouts and other tornadoes are proper, not a fire tornado. How gay can you get huh.
yea u can see on the eralier vid the smoke showing how the wind is working maybe even a clue as to real tornadoes the bone in this vid i wonder if its more liek a dust devil style of formation but pumped up with the added heat and wind related to the fire i heard these things were ripping up adult trees
This will obviously not be in the storm prediction centre's records... This is a Firestorm. I think you are being too much into the game of names when the science and knowledge of how tonadoes form was present. ALSO, there was inflow, outflow.
TheTorandoChaser, I am the Meteorologist In Charge at the Ontario Weather Service. I beg to differ. you DO NOT know for sure how thunderstorm tornadoes form and don't you give me that crap either got it? All torandoes could be formed the same way. YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE of how tstorm tornadoes form. You aren'tt he tornado chaser if you don't know meteorology. Get an education.
Your description is wrong, these are not tornadoes, nor are they formed in the same way, these are firedevils. Also if you have ever felt the outflow of a thunderstorm or even know what hail is you will know that they do not cause heat.
The whole mechanism is sustained by heat. If you get a higher level of education as KevinMartinOws suggested, you will find that parcels of heated air rise from the groud and depending on lapse rates, atmospheric conditions: thunderstorms form.
right... and when warm air rises it COOLS and condenses into water droplets, much like how water droplets form on the side of a glass of water in the summer. All you have here is video of a fire whirl or fire devil, NOT a tornado.
These aren't caused by thunderstorms. They're caused by trade winds that swirl, giving the heat an easier path upwards than just up. the heat from the smoke and flames pushing up keep feeding the vortex, just like dust devils.
Yeah, but they have ripped roofing off houses in arizona. The heat from the ground wants up, but it's trapped by a layer of cooler air, so it finally finds a weak spot in the cool layer, and then some winds make it spin, therefore you have your dust devil. The fire whirl is just a superheated dust devil when the heat is caused by fire, not sunlight.
If you are refering to my description of the video, I mentioned that these events occur the same way thunderstorms do, but not by thunderstorms themselves.
The cloud of smoke even formed wall cloud like structures. This is for use as reference or a case study.
They can happen in any intense fire such as a grass or forest fire. If the day were hot enough (like in a Midwestern summer), and forest or grassland in Ohio were burning hot enough, this could happen.
right on! The environment needs to be perfect as well. In this case, the tornado developped when the winds at the surface lowered but a strong an upper level wind was ongoing. Basically the same dynamics that creates 'real' tornadoes. This one can kill as well though.
Oh, totally. I've always been into evil storms. I gre up in n.w. Illinois and lived in Iowa and Minn., too, so I've seen green skies and heard the "freight trains". I'm in Maine now, where the weirdest weather-related thing is sometimes gaving to heat my place in June.
"real" tornadoes, as you call them are not formed in the same manor. This is NOT a tornado, it is a firedevil and is formed in the same way a dustdevil is.
I wil maintain, the basic conditions required for a tornado to form were there that day. In fact, the 'cloud' of smoke was visible on satellite imagery, and I do have more videos to prove it. However, it is impossible for me to upload them through youtube since they are bigger files. This is a case study. In part 3, A wall cloud (typical of supercell thunderstorms) even formed. And the tornado ''ripped tress from their roots'' as well as flipped cars over.
I have watched all the parts of said video and still this is NOT a tornado, it is a firedevil, a NON tornadic circulation. The "wall cloud" you claim that is present in part 3 is not one. Imply the warm air rising from the ground was rotating, but was not mesocyclonic. Also it doesn't matter if you can or can not see the smoke from space, that just means that the smoke was visible from space, sort of like my car on Google Earth.
I am only comparing these events to the formation of a 'real' tornado. Call it whatever you want, but dustdevils are not known to create F1 damage. These vortices created F3 like damage to cars of the emergency crew flipped over far from the fire itself.
This is a rare event and a case study for a better understanding of tornadoes.
Give me a date and time of this event and I'll show you records from the SPC that will disprove this as a tornadic event for if it were one, and it is not, it would be in there recodes as the NWS monitors large fires very closely to help coordinate firefighting efforts. You have a very cool video of a FIRESTORM and a FIREDEVIL not of anything tornadic.
You are so ignorant. He said it formed in the same way a tornado did, and it is! Warm air rises and cold air falls in the same way a tornado is formed. I haven't ever seen a fire devil video where the devil actually moved. I don't know much about tornado's, but you can search them on weather sites. I don't care if you post back with a nasty comment because I am not offended by what other people say about me.
if i had a power to choose from it would definitely be creating fire vortexes......
iZishu 5 months ago
thats a dust devil not a fire whirl
kmfdm5 5 months ago
This is the 2002 Missionary Ridge Fire outside of Durango Colorado. These are in fact tornadoes, created by the rotation of the plume. These tornadoes snapped of ponderosa pine stems several feet in diameter & toppled and set fire to vehicles parked in the "safe zone" in the dry lake bed of Vallecito reservoir. 1,706 fire fighters worked the fire. By the time the fire ended, it had consumed over 70,000 acres, destroyed 56 homes and had tragically claimed the life of one firefighter.
RiverDogTav 8 months ago
who da fuk cares its just a freaking tornado!!!!
losnegros88 9 months ago
@shotgunbob909 Yeah dude, please read the video comment before you decide to spew stupid shit out of your face. The comment reads "fire whirl" it's a whirlwind of fire and/or smoke from the fire, created by the heat within a fire or firestorm.
It's prettu much a FIRE TORNADO
2SICreativity 11 months ago
mw2
kukamungakilla43 1 year ago
i beat you can fell the heat off it at 100 to 200 yards away
fatboy00137 1 year ago
Yo dawg, here in Texas we call those dust devils. its not a fire tornado, sorry. but still cool nevertheless.
shotgunbob909 1 year ago
@shotgunbob909 who doesnt call them dust devils... and this isnt a dust devil, its literaly a fire tornado, just the smoke covers it up.
shoopdewooooooop 1 year ago
@shotgunbob909 fundamental defference between a dust devil and a fire tornado: you can walk through most dust devil, but a fire tornado will burn you alive while picking you up tens of feet in the air
SlayerNumero2 10 months ago
@shotgunbob909 the tornado was caused by the fires low pressure, we have dust devils in colorado too. Also dust devils dont rip big ass trees from their roots... That was one of the smaller tornados, the larges threw a 30 meter tree a 100 meters
Mikerohren 8 months ago
@shotgunbob909 your dumb fool.
hduece002 8 months ago
ya nothing at all to do with global warming. I work for the Eastern Kentucky Div. of Forestry its caused by the hot air from the fire and cooler air around it. Large fires like that can produce their own weather. It has nothing to do with any type of tornado in the way you think.
outcastedhacker 1 year ago
tornado,water spout,dust devil,fire whirl?,snow whirl?
MrNoNaMe1107 1 year ago
I think I can safely say... we're FUCKED FOR LIFE!!!!
Paterson212 2 years ago
@Paterson212
The sad part is that it's not only we, its our children and their children and so on... if everything would stay at the current rate..
Xelastic 2 years ago
global warming
JohNNyLopez909 2 years ago
you are a noob...it has nothing to do with global warming
its a natural and ancient process of succession.
look it up
Emanusmell 2 years ago
sarcasum dumbass
JohNNyLopez909 2 years ago
sounds like a vacuum.
Imperius41 2 years ago
thats awesome
MrSquid100 2 years ago
That's a fucking monster dust devil
BamafeverRolltide94 2 years ago 7
@BamafeverRolltide94 It's not a dust devil fool.
hduece002 8 months ago
Exodus 13:21-22 :)
progress2007 2 years ago
how god lead the israelites right
UncleRed1234567 2 years ago
exactly :)
Well - who knows what really happened back then, but some of the ingredients are here at least ;)
progress2007 2 years ago
People: o god this is bad!
Nature: u think that's bad.. >:D
Deadfield2 2 years ago 2
That's terrifying!
TheTwelfthDoctor 2 years ago
dude this is fucking epic like SRSLY dude fire and tornadoes is like muahahahahaha YOU DIE!
killer08kenny 2 years ago 2
lmao tasty
hjhjiv 2 years ago
hot air rises cold air falls, this is what you get when you burn leaves in a pit, the smoke sometimes swirls
GhostXoP 2 years ago
i honestly have never heard of a fire whirl until now
garycalgary 2 years ago 3
a jet stream probably caused an uproar
krnxpridex 2 years ago
This is in fact the Misionary Ridge fire. You are correct. This is up by Vallecito. I live right around the corner.
durangoclimber 2 years ago
a nice little problem on top of another problem. Sounds like fun
Crematormark 3 years ago
thats 2 natural disasters in a sandwich of deadliness O_o
pattehfilipino 3 years ago 2
sounds tasty
gtamythfnder 2 years ago
If anyone is still actually curious, I'm almost positive this is the Missionary Ridge Fire of 2002 in SW Colorado. The fire whirl occurred when the fire reached the dry bed of Vallecito reservoir. While this is NOT an "official" tornado, it almost has honorary status as one since it cause the level of damage it did. Fire officials told evacuees to park whatever they couldn't bring with them (RVs, boats, etc) on the lake bed to keep them safe from the fire. It was a good idea, in theory...
cloudhopper10 3 years ago
this is an smoke devil
bristoc 3 years ago
This is more than a "Smoke" devil , if tou watch the other videos you can see the formation of a real mesocyclone!!!
rideon77 3 years ago
awesome footage, very rare to catch on camera
KALIandJACO 3 years ago 2
natural disasters are powerful
stunscrew2 3 years ago 2
This type of thing actually exists to the people saying it doesn't. Ever bother just looking it up instead of saying "Doesn't exist?" It's real and rare and dangerous.
PumaPumaPride 3 years ago
Hahaha fire walls......... You fail!
MysticPoptart 3 years ago 2
to me it looks like it is leaving a smoke trail which is probally on fire..i would rather be by a normal tornado cause im sure this one would leave you crispy
mace41canuck 3 years ago
fire walls ha ha the good ol video on the communications part of the basic class.. lol
mikemartin234 3 years ago
well 2 me it look likes it a tornado of smoke
finalfantasyluver505 3 years ago
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It's a desert tornado guy's don't get too carried away... 3/3 and not favorites because it was worth watching.
Killyou47 3 years ago
or fire hail
f54462 3 years ago
Watch out for fire walls! lol
For those of you who don't understand the joke, watch some of the S130/S190 training videos.
OneSkiWonder 3 years ago
WOW very very funny
belcia120 4 years ago
the key to liveing to a tornado is to run pls insert broken record here] very very very very very very very very far away
Scauthra 4 years ago
i dont get it
earthangel98 4 years ago
fire whirl or five devil are fire tornadoes bty thats actually a fire convection get it right fire tornadoes suck cock waterspouts and water tornadoes dust devils are vacuumz
GoRideaMTN 4 years ago
puncuation is your friend! use it lol and how bout u spell something properly?
WorkinTheSnake 4 years ago 2
Who are you to talk? Look at how you spell certain words: "bout" and "u." Maybe you are the one who needs grammar help.
JKK72385 4 years ago 6
we all understand those as abreviations (sp LOL.)I love how in that post you used all the proper grammar and shit lol. See your learning! Keep it up
WorkinTheSnake 4 years ago
You should be a teacher! Good work there m8!
OhManTFE 4 years ago
You spelled "abreviations" wrong. It's spelled with two b's not one. You're a joke. And since when was "bout" and "u" an abbreviation? Laugh out loud! Laugh out loud!
JKK72385 4 years ago
thats why i put sp (spelling) after it lmao dude get a life....
WorkinTheSnake 4 years ago
If you really are as smart as you claim you are, then why put "sp" after a word you know how to spell? You make no sense and I am tired of this.
JKK72385 4 years ago
lmao dude fuck off i have no time for this shit i dont even know why im posting and when did i ever claim i was smart..... fuck off....
WorkinTheSnake 4 years ago
Once again you resort to insulting me like a 12 year old. I'm guessing that is your age, right?
JKK72385 4 years ago
im 16......
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ha ha your 12 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
z4dude 3 years ago
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ahah someone made another mistake haHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
z4dude 3 years ago
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haha someone made a mistake !!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
z4dude 3 years ago
Only you can prevent forast fires, witch is good because I have shit to do.
amayagab 4 years ago
thats tight i wanna jumo in it
lawrenceisapimp 4 years ago
Is it me or does there appear to be more than one about 58 seconds in?
HeLuvsMeMore 4 years ago
ya!!
Jamie189eimaJ 4 years ago
There might be,or it could be smoke. Either way, that would/is one giant tornado O.O
hound93 4 years ago
that water line they put in the dirt was a good idea. hopfuly the fire runs into it and gets put out.
back2nrml 4 years ago
Ah, watevr it is, itz kool
TruestHeart 4 years ago
u got me :D
genius123abc 4 years ago
yes it is a tornado the thing is that you wouldn't see it if there wasnt any smoke becuase its spin isnt tht fast
but yes it is a tornado even though theres no supercell
also there is some little dust torando which usually occur in africa every day
you never know
genius123abc 4 years ago
There is a big difference between a dust devil, a fire whirl and a tornado. Do some research before you make yourself look like an idiot, Mr. genius123abc.
calyx93 4 years ago
uhh yes their is. thats wht makes them differnt num nuts
back2nrml 4 years ago
agreed, but careful what you say, the owner of this video and a certain Canadian on here will fight you tooth and nail if you claim that this isn't a tornado, just read the previous comments.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
it is a vortex, not a tornado. It does not have enough stability at high altitude.
Real tornadoes are one with the whole storm, and have a gigantic vortex inside the thunderhead you don't see.
StaticCore 4 years ago
WHO HERE TENX THET IS REAL ME
halo40099 4 years ago
Did that area really have an fire enhanced tornado warning for a second?
airplanefreek247 4 years ago
OMG is that a fire enhanced tornado?!
airplanefreek247 4 years ago
first of all we may have made jokes back and forth with greece for years, but in all we the turks love greeks. the people responsible for these fires are greek developpers they do this all the time in turkey. then they challenge the bylaws and develop the lands. they are pure evil, this act is pure evil. dont listen to one or two bad apples. turkish red cross is in greece so is this candar plane. we support greece in this tradegy. god bless all of you in this difficult time.
oceanus12 4 years ago
If it wasnt able to hurt people or animals id say it looks pretty cool...still does actually.
wherestheshwa 4 years ago
dust devil or fire devil
supercellstorm 4 years ago
that is verry unusual
yamahamike500 4 years ago
I'll say
airplanefreek247 4 years ago
This is not unusual, and the formation of eddies is a very well known effect due to the strong production of heat and the creation of a local low pressure. Sometimes the low pressure system creates convection cells that entail even local rain from the condensation of masses of water vapour produced in the combustion. For further information, look for this in the scientific literature and in the main fire reports (i.e. Rothermel, Yellowstone 1988)
Gnomusy 4 years ago
Okay now let's simplify all your words to one okay...
'everything you wrote=tornado' If it's not than there's nothing more but the alien's attack... >.>
Leon61294 4 years ago
Is there actual fire in it?
Wallfilms 4 years ago
There's tempatures hot enough to be fire.
MDHmodder 4 years ago
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No it is just smoke rising from the flames
airplanefreek247 4 years ago
You dumbass!
Its a real tornado formed because of the fire's heat in the colder athmosphere.
marcrem 4 years ago 2
its a real tornado. go look on the net lol.
xiangyik 4 years ago
It is not a tornado, it is a fire whirl or five devil, not a tornado.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
Awesome
titan5577 4 years ago
it manily like a gaint dust devil just wind picked up the smoke only it got bigger and dangerous
moneyjr1122 4 years ago
cool
moneyjr1122 4 years ago
wow. that is simply amazing.
the works of mother nature!
unchainedxmelody 4 years ago
what is it then , we refer to these things as tornadoes, stop being such pathetic wannabes, lookin to top the next guy in line that refers to a fire tornado as such. Call it what you want, anyone who dont refer to it as a tornado though, is one pathetic loser
sn1p3rd3v1l 4 years ago
has this ever happened in other forestfires ?
madonna915 4 years ago
These can be extremely powerful, too. I saw on a tv documentary about twisters, and it showed huge fire tornadoes. The narrator said that one picked up a pick-up (no play on words intended), sucked out the passanger (the heat killed him instantaneously), and set the truck back down without hurting the driver. I'm very sorry for him, and hope I never have to get too close to one.
Cchrisbud813 4 years ago
Theres no such thing as a fire tornado, I recon someones lit a fire and tricking people to think its a fire tornado. only dust devils, waterspouts and other tornadoes are proper, not a fire tornado. How gay can you get huh.
JoshuaMouncer 4 years ago
JoshuaMouncer: Since when do people care about what some skater punk has to say about 'mesocyclones' and 'tornadoes'?
Not like I know much but let us leave it to the experts.
CNDStud 4 years ago
Not as gay as you. :)
fosho420 4 years ago
woow.
lombardi007 4 years ago
yea u can see on the eralier vid the smoke showing how the wind is working maybe even a clue as to real tornadoes the bone in this vid i wonder if its more liek a dust devil style of formation but pumped up with the added heat and wind related to the fire i heard these things were ripping up adult trees
Jamiesyme999 4 years ago
This will obviously not be in the storm prediction centre's records... This is a Firestorm. I think you are being too much into the game of names when the science and knowledge of how tonadoes form was present. ALSO, there was inflow, outflow.
SlayerNumero2 4 years ago
TheTorandoChaser, I am the Meteorologist In Charge at the Ontario Weather Service. I beg to differ. you DO NOT know for sure how thunderstorm tornadoes form and don't you give me that crap either got it? All torandoes could be formed the same way. YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE of how tstorm tornadoes form. You aren'tt he tornado chaser if you don't know meteorology. Get an education.
KevinMartinOWS 4 years ago
Your description is wrong, these are not tornadoes, nor are they formed in the same way, these are firedevils. Also if you have ever felt the outflow of a thunderstorm or even know what hail is you will know that they do not cause heat.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
The whole mechanism is sustained by heat. If you get a higher level of education as KevinMartinOws suggested, you will find that parcels of heated air rise from the groud and depending on lapse rates, atmospheric conditions: thunderstorms form.
SlayerNumero2 4 years ago
right... and when warm air rises it COOLS and condenses into water droplets, much like how water droplets form on the side of a glass of water in the summer. All you have here is video of a fire whirl or fire devil, NOT a tornado.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
can you spray water on it to put it out? heheheh
ViewingAngela 4 years ago
Combining FIRE AND TORNADOES?! I'm in heaven.
lasigmaman 5 years ago
These aren't caused by thunderstorms. They're caused by trade winds that swirl, giving the heat an easier path upwards than just up. the heat from the smoke and flames pushing up keep feeding the vortex, just like dust devils.
BryanBeatsYouAll 5 years ago
Except dust devils do not kill.
SlayerNumero2 5 years ago
Yeah, but they have ripped roofing off houses in arizona. The heat from the ground wants up, but it's trapped by a layer of cooler air, so it finally finds a weak spot in the cool layer, and then some winds make it spin, therefore you have your dust devil. The fire whirl is just a superheated dust devil when the heat is caused by fire, not sunlight.
BryanBeatsYouAll 5 years ago
If you are refering to my description of the video, I mentioned that these events occur the same way thunderstorms do, but not by thunderstorms themselves.
The cloud of smoke even formed wall cloud like structures. This is for use as reference or a case study.
SlayerNumero2 4 years ago
Your description is still wrong. A tornado and a firedevil do not form the same way. This is NOT tornadic.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
Actually the can, in fact dustdevils have been known to deal up to f1 damage.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
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couldnotstop 5 years ago
That is fuckin crazy!!
ljtheprophet 5 years ago
where is this place at?
naraecar213 5 years ago
Pretty cool! We get nothing like that in Ohio!
packerfaneddie 5 years ago
They can happen in any intense fire such as a grass or forest fire. If the day were hot enough (like in a Midwestern summer), and forest or grassland in Ohio were burning hot enough, this could happen.
AkkordionBloke 5 years ago
right on! The environment needs to be perfect as well. In this case, the tornado developped when the winds at the surface lowered but a strong an upper level wind was ongoing. Basically the same dynamics that creates 'real' tornadoes. This one can kill as well though.
SlayerNumero2 5 years ago
Oh, totally. I've always been into evil storms. I gre up in n.w. Illinois and lived in Iowa and Minn., too, so I've seen green skies and heard the "freight trains". I'm in Maine now, where the weirdest weather-related thing is sometimes gaving to heat my place in June.
AkkordionBloke 5 years ago
"real" tornadoes, as you call them are not formed in the same manor. This is NOT a tornado, it is a firedevil and is formed in the same way a dustdevil is.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
I wil maintain, the basic conditions required for a tornado to form were there that day. In fact, the 'cloud' of smoke was visible on satellite imagery, and I do have more videos to prove it. However, it is impossible for me to upload them through youtube since they are bigger files. This is a case study. In part 3, A wall cloud (typical of supercell thunderstorms) even formed. And the tornado ''ripped tress from their roots'' as well as flipped cars over.
SlayerNumero2 4 years ago
I have watched all the parts of said video and still this is NOT a tornado, it is a firedevil, a NON tornadic circulation. The "wall cloud" you claim that is present in part 3 is not one. Imply the warm air rising from the ground was rotating, but was not mesocyclonic. Also it doesn't matter if you can or can not see the smoke from space, that just means that the smoke was visible from space, sort of like my car on Google Earth.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
I am only comparing these events to the formation of a 'real' tornado. Call it whatever you want, but dustdevils are not known to create F1 damage. These vortices created F3 like damage to cars of the emergency crew flipped over far from the fire itself.
This is a rare event and a case study for a better understanding of tornadoes.
SlayerNumero2 4 years ago
Give me a date and time of this event and I'll show you records from the SPC that will disprove this as a tornadic event for if it were one, and it is not, it would be in there recodes as the NWS monitors large fires very closely to help coordinate firefighting efforts. You have a very cool video of a FIRESTORM and a FIREDEVIL not of anything tornadic.
TheTornadoChaser 4 years ago
You are so ignorant. He said it formed in the same way a tornado did, and it is! Warm air rises and cold air falls in the same way a tornado is formed. I haven't ever seen a fire devil video where the devil actually moved. I don't know much about tornado's, but you can search them on weather sites. I don't care if you post back with a nasty comment because I am not offended by what other people say about me.
nrt2700 4 years ago
very interesting formation.
cmrules 5 years ago
Fire Tornado? I think I have a new obsession
manatarms79 5 years ago