These studies can promote such incongruous results because neither Teradici or VMWare do a good job of promoting their wares to the community that would actively refute said studies: the CGI community.
For the past 6 months I've been researching the PCoIP/VSphere virtual machine paradigm. Teradici touts 3D accellerated graphics, yet ESXi doesn't support graphics cards, and no information exists in a concise form as to how to configure them for high end graphics. It's BLOODY FRUSTRATING!!!
Clearly some confusion around. I have seen a lot of PCoIP demo's over the last year, mostly on hardware based solutions, which looked great. I did see a big LAN based proof of concept for 30 or so VMWare View clients in a trading environment running off one blade server and performance was very impressive. Comments here remind me of Apple vs Windows trolls - get over it - make the stuff work together, meet business needs and find better things to do that trash the other camp.
@dsegura3569, we understand how you might have confused our test as using PCoIP HW-based clients because the monitor you see is a Samsung zero client. To clarify, these tests were conducted on an Atom-based thin client connected via VGA to the Samsung monitor NOT in HW zero client mode. However, we’re flattered that one might mistake the performance of our virtualized solution with that of our 1:1 HW solution.
Anyone who has tested PCoIP in constrained network environment can see that there is something not right about the TechEd video - can't blame Teradici for wanting to clarify things, as i'm sure Citrix would do. At least they aren't spamming comments on the video to rubbish the testing like some vendors might do...
The Bullshit isnt with the HW version or software version as I've seen the older Vmware views do just fine.
The Bullshit ( and its quite obvious to those that have seen this before) is that at Teched -they were running multiple machines ( I think it was 5) on the same switch.
Nice that they replicated instructions right out of the box, now they just need to replicated what they did at teched which wasnt out of the ordinary.
PCOIP sucks when you start to run multiple machines!
@jabberwolf Simply not true... VMware/PCoIP scales well when running multiple machines on a server (its what we run). As with EVERY other VDI solution, its simply about planning your consolidation ratio and using the appropriate hardware. I don't think there is any need for these trashy posts - its pretty widely accepted that there was something not right about the TechEd testing.
These studies can promote such incongruous results because neither Teradici or VMWare do a good job of promoting their wares to the community that would actively refute said studies: the CGI community.
For the past 6 months I've been researching the PCoIP/VSphere virtual machine paradigm. Teradici touts 3D accellerated graphics, yet ESXi doesn't support graphics cards, and no information exists in a concise form as to how to configure them for high end graphics. It's BLOODY FRUSTRATING!!!
yapdog 1 year ago
Clearly some confusion around. I have seen a lot of PCoIP demo's over the last year, mostly on hardware based solutions, which looked great. I did see a big LAN based proof of concept for 30 or so VMWare View clients in a trading environment running off one blade server and performance was very impressive. Comments here remind me of Apple vs Windows trolls - get over it - make the stuff work together, meet business needs and find better things to do that trash the other camp.
TheSimplemind88 1 year ago
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jabberwolf 1 year ago
@dsegura3569, we understand how you might have confused our test as using PCoIP HW-based clients because the monitor you see is a Samsung zero client. To clarify, these tests were conducted on an Atom-based thin client connected via VGA to the Samsung monitor NOT in HW zero client mode. However, we’re flattered that one might mistake the performance of our virtualized solution with that of our 1:1 HW solution.
TeradiciLabs 1 year ago
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dsegura3569 1 year ago
Anyone who has tested PCoIP in constrained network environment can see that there is something not right about the TechEd video - can't blame Teradici for wanting to clarify things, as i'm sure Citrix would do. At least they aren't spamming comments on the video to rubbish the testing like some vendors might do...
jimbonbon 1 year ago
@dsegura3569 Be afraid dsegura3569, be very afraid...
amdbs5 1 year ago
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dsegura3569 1 year ago
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dsegura3569 1 year ago
@dsegura3569
"Clarify that you are using H/W PCoIP"
Ok, so he's confirmed that he WASN'T using H/W PCoIP, so I'm calling bullshit on the rest of your idiocy.
Ready to wipe all that egg off your face now?
kwyj 1 year ago
@kwyj
The Bullshit isnt with the HW version or software version as I've seen the older Vmware views do just fine.
The Bullshit ( and its quite obvious to those that have seen this before) is that at Teched -they were running multiple machines ( I think it was 5) on the same switch.
Nice that they replicated instructions right out of the box, now they just need to replicated what they did at teched which wasnt out of the ordinary.
PCOIP sucks when you start to run multiple machines!
jabberwolf 1 year ago
@jabberwolf Simply not true... VMware/PCoIP scales well when running multiple machines on a server (its what we run). As with EVERY other VDI solution, its simply about planning your consolidation ratio and using the appropriate hardware. I don't think there is any need for these trashy posts - its pretty widely accepted that there was something not right about the TechEd testing.
jimbonbon 1 year ago
@jimbonbon
Look the point being is that testing at teched is being done with multiple machines on a switch or wan emulator.
If you have console views, and THEN have 1 remote desktop with the demo, its not a fair comparison.
Its not a trashy post if I'm getting annoyed by BOTH sides trying to fudge comparisons.
You do comparisons by doing actual real world tests.... not console ( I think it will this way on users desktop) theory.
This is something many network POC testers miss.
jabberwolf 1 year ago
I'm not buying it. I've seen PCoIP in person and it is very choppy. And that was with 16 ms latency.
jshonk17 1 year ago
@jshonk17, Hi JS your perception differs from mine totally. I can't backup your call on this.
robbie1969owsi 1 year ago
@jshonk17 You've obviously seen a very different PCoIP to me, this video much more accurately shows the environment we have running live.
jimbonbon 1 year ago