Rosario was one of the hardest hitting punchers ever of the lightweight division. Too bad his drug addiction ruined his career and eventually his very own life.
Don't know what one of the posters thought was so funny about this ? Rosario completely devastated Bramble who was considered almost invincible at that time.......I thought it was one of the most devastating KO's I have ever seen......one of my top 10 ever !!
Rosario was indeed a great and most underated boxer !!
@jimbourg8 I agree. This was a shocking knockout. Bramble was tough as nails with a great chin at the time. Rosario just blew him away. I was stunned at this outcome.
Rosario Knocks out Pryor if Lewis does not juice him up with that special concoction, if they had ever fought, Arguello would have beaten Pryor if not cheated by whatever drug was in that bottle that hyped up pryor.
El Chapo no fue un mal campeon,pero era un peleador de pocos recursos,todo lo tiraba a la cara,no tenia buena defensa,si tenia buena pegada pero era un boxeador de destrezas limitadas,el que este en el salon de la fama en mi opinion solo demuestra que no hay que tener unas credenciales excepcionales para entrar,otros ej,Kostya Tzyu,Mike Tyson etc.
i didnt say he was the best at lightweight, i said he was the hardest puncher in lightweight and many experts and critics agree. duran needed stamina and more than 3 rounds to get that right to do real damage and rosario could take you out anytime.
If the same Bramble that fought Mancini& Crawley fought Rosario things wouldve been different. BRamble wouldve started slowly as a counterpuncher his strength was his endurance he was a 15 round fighter. Then around the 12th Bramble would start wearing this guy down. He would close strong and get a decision or a late TKO. Instead his career was destroyed reminds me a lot of Gerald McCllellan, a great fighter believing his press and losing to an inferior opponent that he didn't respect
I just think that Bramble was special. he should've been a big star he shouldn't have lost to this bum in such a shameful way. 2 rounds is ridiculous after fighting 29 hard rounds with Mancini. I don't know if Bramble was on drugs or what not but this performance in this video was fn' awful! it should've been Bramble vs Chavez and all those other guys then we would've seen something if he had been right
@gonzomoya420 well mancini was another warrior with great punching power. and bramble went to war with him but rosario was waaaay far from a bum, he wasted his talent, yes, he wouldn't go the extra mile due to his drug issues and conditioning, but one thing for sure, rosarios power wasn't normal, he prooved that numerous of times, maybe you dont like Rosario but one thing for sure, take a close look at this fight and see how much rosario made bramble miss.
@gonzomoya420 when rosario wasn't slipping his punches he was blocking them with ease, look at his handspeed and defense, his timing and that speed let him connect with ease, i didn't see anything different with bramble, he tried to figure rosario out and went in with his usual quick punches, but foud himself missing and getting caught easily with big hooks and right hands just like with mancini, difference= these weren't mancinis hands, lol he felt them.
@gonzomoya420 its not like chavez was a test for bramble to tell if something was wrong or not or if he was going tomake it or not, rosario in actuality is a harder test dude, chavez wasnt a one punch ko artist, he slowed his opponents down through the body, cut the ring beautifully and was agressive 100% of the time, but still didnt pocess the hands rosario had, rosario made his mistakes vs chavez that lead to his lose, took too many body shots, stayed on the ropes but thats all
@gonzomoya420 truth is the mans hands were of steele, excelent movement, slipping, speed, stamina, but when he struggled with drugs.... everything fell apart dude, no one knew what was to happen if he used it he'd might win or loose, if he didn't he was unstopable, simple as that, just a very sad story and unlimited talent... its as simple as that man, from an early stage he was into it and by the time he fought ramirez second time and camacho he was deep into it, he would just collapse.
@gonzomoya420 these are just my thoughts... edwin was a boxer puncher with great movement, no way he was going to stay there and simply brawl with bramble. he made bramble miss and pay since the bell rang... The bright side is Bramble lost to rosario who could take anyone out at anytime, if he'd fought chavez, chavez was going to go straight to the body the mayority of the fight to shatter that ribcage, who knows the permanent damage he could have done to bramble, Chavez messed up alot of guys.
@x5xtonyx5x I think it was Bramble who had smoked too much weed. He said he was a Rastafarian and they all smoke weed it's part of their kooky religion. I think Bramble might've been baked in this fight look at the ending. He backs up goes down and just stays there, he looks perfectly fine he could've gotten up but had no desire to do so. That's what happens when you smoke too much weed, you have no ambition and you don't want to do anything physical
@gonzomoya420 to be honest if what u said was true then he did it all the time not just for this fight, and they said he also practiced witch craft stuff.but the truth in my opinion is if he was baked for this fight he would have walked through rosario, he wasn't going to feel the power man, look at the mancini fight then this one, look at how much mancini missed and got tagged, mancini stood in front of him. each time bramble jabed it hit mancini, and yet mancini wasn't as crisp and explosive.
@gonzomoya420 weed may relax people but it can amp people up make them hype as well and crazy, so if anything bramble to better shots with the numbness. bramble landed everything he threw with mancini including making mancini miss alot, Chapo made bramble miss and capitalized with huge hook and rights, Loreto Lagarza was one tough punch resistant porspect, they put Chapo infront of him and lagarza was suppose to eat him like a cupcake, instead each time rosario tapped him with the right hed fall
@x5xtonyx5x Coke amps up people. Weed slows people down. My gut instinct is that Bramble didn't take this guy seriously. Remember the whole card was called "Preamble to Bramble". People were clamoring for Bramble vs Camacho. After Bramble beat Mancini twice and Crawley the press was saying that Bramble would be champ for years they could see no flaws in him. It's the old story of a fighter reading his own clippings.
@gonzomoya420 slows people down but can numb u as well, ive seen pot headed people with gloves on before and they clearly have the advantage, they barely feel the punches, everyone took him seriously he was the dude that had his troubles but could take anyone out at any time. rosario would have been the superstar if he'd live a smart , clean life. all i see here is what happened to the strong prospets that laughed at rosario....(they got destroyed).
@gonzomoya420 stop comparing mancini, mancini was too easy to hit, look at rosarios footwork in this fight man, look at his jab and movement, how does it look anything like mancini? he made bramble miss and bombed away, he was the counterpuncher, if anything bramble was suppose to do better here because of his confidence, weed slows you down but it didn't seemed to slow bramble down when the bell rang. rosario is not mancini or crawley,rosario had great defense & lost at times from not using it.
@gonzomoya420 even when bramble tried to counter rosario would have score the jab and moved away making bramble miss, he turned camacho into a running safety first fighter, something bazooka limon didn't do, clean rosario vs clean bramble (if he wasnt clean here) would be the same, rosario was unstopable when clean. if brambles prob would have been smoking weed he would have been exposed waay before.
@gonzomoya420 at the end of the day what is easier and harder, beating a brwaler in mancini who was going to be easy to hit and stand infront of you all night long swinging for the fences, giving you a constant opening to the body and head for you to counter, or rosario, would use movement of the feet and head and great blocking to try to make you miss and counter, had speed in both hands, was short quick and crisp with his shots, he could be an easy mess or a train coming your way, think hard.
@gonzomoya420 in my opinion there were great lightweights, the best to me duran, chavez one of the best with shattering combos using his bodyshots to make you collapse in the later rounds, durans solid punches that was described as leonard as feeling like actual, rocks , stones, bricks, still no man has had sucj a devastating, wall droping, shattering righ hand/right hook like this man chapo, like him or not.
@x5xtonyx5x If that had been true Rosario wouldve kod Chavez b/c he landed plenty of times yet never hurt him. Chavez exposed him as being one-dimensional. Arguello had a better right than Rosario. But one punch power doesnt make a good fighter. Chavez was good. Pacman is very good. Duran was better. But the best lighter weight fighter ever IMO was Aaron Pryor. In his prime Pryor was simply invincible, he fought every round at 100mph and never took a step back, he was incredible!
@gonzomoya420 ramirez the man who fought arguello and rosario claimed and stated himself thast rosario hit harder than arguello and had more raw power, chavez and ramirez had steel chins and never were stopped in prime. rosario landed shots to chavez head correct, chavez having the steel chin, but never went to the body, stayed on the ropes and recieved unnecesary punishment, if he would have moved away and landed things would have been different, THE MAN WAS A DRUG ADDICT!!!!!!!
@gonzomoya420 ever heard of panama lewis and luis resto, panama lewis the man knowing for using an illegal substance that treats asthma patients, in order to open the lungs of his fighter, remember arguello and pryor being tired as dogs, and pryor miracly gaining some stamina and energy out of nowhere in the final rounds? and panama lewis being heard saying "give me the bottle, Which one this one? No the one i mixed...humm wonder what that means.
@x5xtonyx5x Panama explained that it was soda water to settle Pryor's stomach b/c of this controversy they had a rematch and Pryor totally overwhelmed AA proving that he was the better faster fighter. In his prime Pryor beats everyone from lightweight-welter. He was great in the AA fights but he was even better against Dujuan Johnson.
@gonzomoya420 and not mentuion luis resto admitted and confess he used this substance and lewis gave it to him for the collins fight, Resto describes it as feeling like "oooh shit, this feels good!!!" he said it open his lungs so pryor must have felt like he was in the 9th round when he was in the 14th. this is a shame, and again rosario too many experts is the most raw hardest hitting lightweight, i didn't say best.
@x5xtonyx5x I wouldnt believe a word Resto says. Here was this bum with a shitty record and Panama helps him by taking him into his gym. At the time Panama was one of the best trainers he was in Duran's corner for his 1st fight with Leonard and in Pryor's 1st fight with AA. So out of the goodness in his heart he trains Resto. My gut instinct is that Resto and one of his other cornermen fixed his gloves. Panama wouldnt do it b/c he was a trainer of champions why ruin himself over this bum?
@gonzomoya420 each time chapo got a right hand in there against lagarza he'd drop him like a wall, now was lagarza baked? i dont think so, rosario was addicted to terible gloves that ruined your body, weed is a drug but noit to compare with coke or any of those drugs that completely destroy your eyesight, lungs, and heart. Chapo was just clean for this one, and Bramble felt those hands.
@gonzomoya420 one of the only men you'd see tap a guy with the right and see them go down like a tree, and talking of one dimensional, dude! look at his footwork, the man never walked up or ran up to a guy he did it strictly with bouncing foot work to always remain in balance, fighters today take steps towards there opponents, it was difficult to see this from Rosario, he was unfortunate wasted talent, how can you have so much movement on your feet head, and great combos & be one dimensional.
what a disappointment this fight was. Bramble, after those great fights with Mancini and Crawley just collapsed in this fight. He was so colorful and so popular and he just folded. I remember at the time there was so much talk of Bramble and his future and it all evaporated because he quit after only 2 rounds to a guy who was so one-dimensional and ordinary. Such a shame!
@gonzomoya420 one dimensional? lol... yeah when he let himself get carried away with power and completely changed his style because of it... he was one dimensional when he got deeply into drugs, and still destroyed several young prospects that were suppose to walk through him like a bull. Rosario had freakish rare power in both hands that only iron chinned warrior like ramirez and chavez withstood, none of them were stopped in prime, only ramirez once by the great punch olivarez.
@gonzomoya420 and when he fought bramble was already falling apart into deugs and with his training, prime, clean rosario was a bull, with good head movement, great timing, and great combos always looking to set up a huge right hand which dropped so mny senseless, so i dont know where this comes from, if anything if he lived a clean life he'd had no limits, also considering his height for the weight, for heaven sake he walk through juan nazario and was then ko'd by him, the man was troubled...
@gonzomoya420 maybe predictable but not one dimensonal, especially in his clean prime, very short prime but drugs was what borderd that, if he was clean, he was a Pure Beast, he wasn;t it could have gone either way, but bramble was a good warrior he had his wars, theres no shame in loosing to one of the most powerful lightweights to ever step in the ring, no disrespect, just my thoughts...
Yes it was-he wore a black tuxedo, with red bowtie when watching fights live. He was wearing the same thing when I met him too. What a class-act. R.I.P. Alexis Arguello.
Another good thing you will notice about the Referee is that you hardly see him blocking the view. Many Referees are always blocking the action, but not in this case. Take this tape to Referee Training school.
I was in this fight in 1986 and the general feeling was that it was going to be close and competitive. What surprised me was that Bramble did not fight back or even moved to avoid the punches. After the first uppercut he just received punishment and threw only 3-4 meaningless punches. To beat Rosario you had to have a good chin and both, Bramble and Loreto Garza did not have it.
Watch the Referee from 6:45 to the end with a first class job. Check specially at 7:05 - 7:10 where he is so close to both fighters that in fact, he is telling LB to respond! He shows real concern for the fighter. One of the most professional and dynamic showings I have seen by a Referee in more that 50 yrs of watching fights. Excellent!
@KleePietro I agree the ref did a very nice job (and I am often pretty critical of them). Superb outing for Rosario. Am surprised Bramble got taken out so early. Sure he got hit, but I've seen boxers endure and even come back from far more brutal beatings. But props to ER.
Yo soy americano pero yo megusta Edwin Rosiro el tiene mucho "guts y El Chappo tiene mucho fursa y el manos de el es rapido, tambien. El tiene el corrizone de un grand campion. Via con Dios amiogo. We miss you!
Agree, Chapo was bad @ss, he used to train with us when he was really into the drugs, he was way out of shape bare footed and stinky and used to come to the gym to get tips and even tough he was out of it he hited like a mule and gave us good tips. One of my favorites..
fukin bramble was good til this fight but he would never b the same. its jus the way it goes sum fighters cant bounce bak from defeat and big knockouts.
Right. Bramble wasn't unbeatable at all... but he was no chump either. He was strong and had long arms. At the time I thought Ros. would beat him by decision. Was shocked he beat Bramble down like that. Bramble looked hard and tuff...and potentially damaging ...and he was. He just was by no means invincible or unbeatable for that matter. Still Ros. by-past all my expectation of how he would just dethrone Bramble. Bramble was a solid fighter no doubt (just not elite as some thought(
Rosario had a knack for winning a title when no one else figured he would. He seemed to lose interest when it came to defending it, but he knew how to get himself into that state of mind when it came to winning one.
he wasnt underrated, he just lost a few fights that he was expected to win. Definitely 1 of the harder punchers, u could hear the deep and stiff sounds of his punches
Chapo was a big puncher, goes to show everyone how great Chavez's chin was!! Chavez who took all of Rosario's best punches in thier fight. Bramble was a warrior his fight with Oba Carr was a dam good fight, dude looked like a pitbull in that fight..
Rosario was very underrated, I thought he got jobbed against Camacho. It's interesting you can kinda also see his influence on Trinidad's fight style as well.
@BXMammal Bramble was a warrior i know he never surender you can see that in the Mancinni fight and Bramble was a super great boxer. but we have to give credit to Chapo Rosario he died a few tears ago. Rosario was a three time world champion and fought great fighters like Chavez, Howard Davis and Jose Luis Ramirez.
I trained with Chapo and With another great fighter puncher Wilfredo Vazquez.. I saw Edwin on his prime and saw him when he was just a victim of wrong decissions. It was a shame, he use to help us in the gym even spar with us. he was barefooted and un clean, but always very humble. He had such power that even out of shape he use to hurt d most of us.
I'm from the SF bay area. I knew BHOF member Johnny Gonzalves who at 70+ just showing me a punch hit the tip of my chin, I think I saw a couple of stars. Point is professional fighters no matter what their KO record is hit way harder than the average bear.
@sydnietaina Yes...Chapo one of the most underated champions' ever. He put everything together for this fight...great foot movement.... not wasting any punches...and putting his man away when he got him hurt. Many say Bramble quit.....Those that do just can't appreciated how hard Rosario hit. Livingstone just couldn't take anymore.
chavez first 41 fight with c class fighters and chavez jr is following his steps with 40 fight against c class fighters.i don't think he was that good
Those 40+ fights helped Chavez become a legend. He was def. a great. Chavez Jr. cant get a good win even with performance enhancers haha. Rosario would have better if he had laid off the crack.
Everybody is talking about wath Rosario could have been. bla bla bla. He did much more than you and he liked cocaine. rip Rosario, a very entertaining champ.
Whoever said the wars with Mancini are what made Bramble not get up. No way. Bramble fought another 30 fights. Fact is and maybe it is hard to accept. Rosario hit much harder than Mancini and was better . He demolished Bramble and hit him with hammering punches. Bramble tried to take them, but everything was landing and clean. It was a matter of time that he would go down. No one takes those punches and keeps fighting. Bramble was too good and strong for Bramble.
Ivan Robinson had three fights with Arturo Gatti, after that he was never the same, Eric Morales had three fights with Marco Antonio Barrera, after that he was never the same, Riddick Bowe had those fights with Andrew Golota, after that he was never the same, Evander Holyfield had those three fights with Riddick Bowe, after that he really was never the same. Mickey Ward had three fights with Arturo Gatti, after that he had to retire. Fighters put their all into one fighter and lose everything.
Bramble was the favorite for this fight. Rosario just jumped on top of him and LB could not react. Besides, Rosario was a heavier puncher than LB. Rosario was not always the mostd disciplined guy in the gym. But this time he took this match seriously and trained well.
I got to meet edwin rosario at MSG, he gave me autograph. he was a nice person. Never in my wildest dream did I realize that it was the second to last fight he will have. he passed away later.
limon, castillo,lasporte,camacho,all past there prime chavez was good but far from being great, never really beat in all time great fighter the guys you name lost sanchez, perdroza and to alexis in there primes name one all time great fighter chavez beat in his prime taylor was average and he lost 9 0f 12 rounds.
hey ramirez was tough he was right with chavez when all of a sudden they stopped the fight but rosario won the first fight why did chavez avoid nelson he chased him for a fight but never got it i agree with you chavez was good but not great he pickes and chose his fights. do you think he beat sweat pea
I don't think Chavez beat Whitaker, then again, did "Sweet Pea" ever really beat Chavez? I think ya gotta give Chavez more credit. C'mon, over 100 wins? 70-80 KOs. Limon, Castillo, La Porte, Mayweather, Camacho, Taylor... Man had an epic career.
you believe what you want to hear duran would have ate chavez up then spit him back to mexico rosario beat ramierz up for 2 rounds then ran out of gas was not inshape at all chavez sucks his son sucks to
What the fuck you talking about ! shit head ! ! where talking about Rosario not Duran shit 4 brains ! are you that stupid ! you can't understand a question ! ha ha ha that's what your all about full of excuses ! you must be on crack like most of your people back in the Island ! ROSARIO GOT HIS ASS KICK TWICE BY RAMIREZ & CHAVEZ ! STOP MAKING EXCUSES ! YOU DUMB ASS
hey dumb ass rosario died at 35 of a cocaine overdose enough said chaves pick his fights his whole career lockride beat him randell beat and sweat pea schooled him if sanchez does not get killes you never her of chavez dumb ass no wonder the country is going to shit
I mean what a shallacking. He was starting to back up in round two way before his eye swelled and he was getting nailed and hurt before the eye swelled. Bramble was just outclassed. Sort of an amusing fight when you take into consideration how tough Bramble talked before the fight.
after the fight Bramble is acting like he lost because of his eye swelling. Doesn't he realize everyone saw him getting demolished even before that uppercut hit his eye? He actually could not accept that he was throurouglly overpowered. Rosario outclassed and outpowered him.
Rosario outclassed Bramble. I remember this fight. Rosario left hook stunned Hector Camacho in his previous fight, and in this fight Bramble was demolished. Rosario hit him with his best punches over and over. I was shocked how easy it was for Rosario. This showed me and others how overrated Bramble was. Rosario beat him easily and just was too strong for Bramble. Too strong.
No offense, but do you know what it means for someone to be a "vaunted prospect" ?
Sanchez was largely unknown, in America, up until he beat Lopez. He also had a loss on his record. Rosario was fighting on the networks, before he won a title, was destroying people, & had the boxing media/purists thinking they were witnessing the second coming.
Sanchez wound up being a much greater fighter, but expectations were higher for Rosario- by a mile. I was there.
rosario could have been great but he had a real bad cocaine problem he was great in this fight but only trained 9 days for chavez fight this rosario gives chavez all he wants.
This still ranks as one of the greatest offensive performances I have evr witnessed. Look at the angles Rosario is throwing from, with all of that power & precision. Freaking beautiful!
Rosario is one of the best punchers in boxing history....yet must go down as a disappointment. If anyone followed boxing back in '81ish, they'd know that there has really never been a prospect so damn vaunted like this guy was....not even Tyson or Ayala had what this guy did early on.
chapo had everything to be a top puertorican legend,unfortunately,he had trouble with drugs and many personal problems.everytime he made a comeback he would fall back to that life.i do wonder what could had happened if chavez would had faced a dicipline rosario? R.I.P. ROSARIO
I assumed when they fought Rosario was in great condition and therefore disciplined. He had to be in good shape to take the beating he took. Anyway, maybe the fight might had been closer, but I still believe Chavez would've gotten him. Rosario landed some huge punches on Chavez and they seemed to bounce off with no effect whatsoever. He couldn't hurt Chavez and I believe didn't have the skill to outbox him.
rosario was on a 6 week cocaine run watch the fight all he does is lay on the ropes and stands flat footed he only trained 9 days for the fight don king threw 2 million dollars at him so he took the fight in the bramble fight look how sharpe he is and the speed he has in the chavez fight he had nothing.
Well, that may be the case. But too me Bramble didn't look like he had anything to offer in this fight. He was the one standing and taking a beating. However, we can only go based on what happened. For an out of shape guy, he sure took a hellva beating. I state again, Rosario didn't have the skill the outbox chavez, even if he wasn't "handicapped" and didn't have the power to hurt chavez so regardless of which rosario showed up the result to me was a foregone conclusion.
I thought Rosario was gonna win, but Chavez was pure greatness....& his destruction of Rosario is one of the single greatest performances in boxing history. Rosario could have never beaten Chavez, IMO.
hey get the facts rosario was on cacaine he trained 9 days for the chavez fight don king threw 2 million at him so he took the fight chavez was good but in shape rosario has a shot
he traines 9 days for the chavez fight he was on a 6 week cocaine run look how fast he is in this fight moving punching in the chavez fight he stood flat footed laid on the ropes he had nothing to give he took 2 million trained 9 days another don king set up
i agree with you the speed the angles the power in this fight he was great in the chavez fight he laid on the ropes stood flat footed he had nothing i heard he was on a 6 week cocaine run and only trained 9 days for the chavez fight god bless you edwin
Rasario was an extraordinary puncher. He had the unfortunate fate coming along in the same era with a fighter with an extraordinary chin - JC Chavez. Bramble had a pretty good chin as well.
Yeah, I thought so too. After Rosario lost to Camacho and Bramble beat Mancini there was no reason to think Rosario was gunna win. I disagree though, I thought Chapo was at the top, JC Chavez is just epic.
Notice that Rosario decided to box and wait patiently for his openings in this one. He could box quite effectively when he wanted to, and he was much better as a boxer / puncher than when he resorted to being a pure slugger. Unfortunately, he often did exactly that, and it cost him dearly in some of his bigger fights.
You are spot on. But don't careers go that way? A guy comes up with talent and punching power, he learns to box and wins championships, then he may lose some big fights, then he may go back to being a brawler just to get decent fights late in his career? Arturo Gatti comes to mind, so does Bobby Chacon. El Chapo was great.......
Well, he lost the title to Ramirez the first time by slugging. But I think that was determined as much by anything as the fact that he (Rosario) wasn't in great shape for the fight. Sometimes he trained like a Spartan warrior, and when he did so, he brought a lot more aspects to the ring for his opponent to have to deal with. On other occasions, he was somewhat slack with his training and had to rely purely on his power.
His jab was working on this night huh?Some kinda head movement in the first(side 2 side) allowed "Chapo" to figure out Bramble's range and timing. This is the stuff to teach young fighters. Lets not forget Bramble was on a streak at this point.
ha ha ha ! what happen are you angry ? you didn't answer my question ! and by the way learn how to spell you dumb ass ! you didn't answer my question cause your to stupid to understand what your reading ! crack head ! !
Rosario would never have beat "Boom Boom" I'm glad Rosario knocked out that prick. I don't think Bramble wanted 2 get up.
tonyfressola 1 week ago
Rosario was one of the hardest hitting punchers ever of the lightweight division. Too bad his drug addiction ruined his career and eventually his very own life.
priestpega 1 month ago
love rosario's footwork!
lionzion17 1 month ago
mancini-rosario? Could have been had bramble not beaten ray.Anyway rosario would have smoked ray
mmttomb3 1 month ago
not much of a pit bull here.
spareaxe 2 months ago
Rosario was a STRONG fighter! He didnt even look like he was getting tired!!
martadoso9 3 months ago
Bramble was piece of crap as a human being, nice to see Rosario completely outclass and destroy him.
SerUresto 3 months ago
Bramble acted like he got thumbed in this fight. lol
torr59622 3 months ago
Shocker after seeing Bramble dismantle Ray Mancini. Rosario was a great fighter.
uncjim 3 months ago
Rosario was a nigh-perfect boxer puncher.
909kong 3 months ago
im glad this fight turned out this way after what bramble did to mancini , what comes around goes around
XPropelledxFutureX 3 months ago
Rosario vs Corrales anyone??? That would have been a short but sweet war.
Armando316 4 months ago
A prime Rosario could knock out a Carlsberg horse!!!!
sweetfights 4 months ago
ESTANDO JUNTOS EN EL COLEGIO VI A ROSARIO DESTROSAR DOS JOVENES A LA MISMA VEZ
SALSAORIGINAL 5 months ago
Don't know what one of the posters thought was so funny about this ? Rosario completely devastated Bramble who was considered almost invincible at that time.......I thought it was one of the most devastating KO's I have ever seen......one of my top 10 ever !!
Rosario was indeed a great and most underated boxer !!
jimbourg8 5 months ago
@jimbourg8 I agree. This was a shocking knockout. Bramble was tough as nails with a great chin at the time. Rosario just blew him away. I was stunned at this outcome.
preo2 4 months ago
God dern wao. These where times
manrod15 6 months ago
Rosario Knocks out Pryor if Lewis does not juice him up with that special concoction, if they had ever fought, Arguello would have beaten Pryor if not cheated by whatever drug was in that bottle that hyped up pryor.
rspen461 7 months ago
@rspen461:
Nah!
tw69hands2 6 months ago
El Chapo no fue un mal campeon,pero era un peleador de pocos recursos,todo lo tiraba a la cara,no tenia buena defensa,si tenia buena pegada pero era un boxeador de destrezas limitadas,el que este en el salon de la fama en mi opinion solo demuestra que no hay que tener unas credenciales excepcionales para entrar,otros ej,Kostya Tzyu,Mike Tyson etc.
julius5551 7 months ago
rasuaja Bramble
me1we1 7 months ago
Edwin El Chapo Rosario es y sera siempre un orgullo para nuestro pueblo de Toa Baja y Puerto Rico.
budin8 7 months ago
bramble quit
june1683 7 months ago
RIP Chapo!! Best win of his career, I was a kid when it happened and I was happier than a fagg with a bag full of dicks...
chifuli1974 8 months ago
@chifuli1974 ...that had to be one of the funniest post ive ever read!!!! Hilarious. I hope you werent serious but it sure was funny!!
67061912 7 months ago
Testament to what a hard puncher Rosario was because Bramble had a good chin and took everything Mancini hit him with in 2 fights.
shire2005 9 months ago
Bramble is a bitch. He tried to say he got thumbed in this fight. People thought he was unbeatable but Chapo proved his Camacho fight was no fluke.
torr5962 9 months ago
@torr5962 you're a bitch
slizz27 9 months ago
i didnt say he was the best at lightweight, i said he was the hardest puncher in lightweight and many experts and critics agree. duran needed stamina and more than 3 rounds to get that right to do real damage and rosario could take you out anytime.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
If the same Bramble that fought Mancini& Crawley fought Rosario things wouldve been different. BRamble wouldve started slowly as a counterpuncher his strength was his endurance he was a 15 round fighter. Then around the 12th Bramble would start wearing this guy down. He would close strong and get a decision or a late TKO. Instead his career was destroyed reminds me a lot of Gerald McCllellan, a great fighter believing his press and losing to an inferior opponent that he didn't respect
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
I just think that Bramble was special. he should've been a big star he shouldn't have lost to this bum in such a shameful way. 2 rounds is ridiculous after fighting 29 hard rounds with Mancini. I don't know if Bramble was on drugs or what not but this performance in this video was fn' awful! it should've been Bramble vs Chavez and all those other guys then we would've seen something if he had been right
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 well mancini was another warrior with great punching power. and bramble went to war with him but rosario was waaaay far from a bum, he wasted his talent, yes, he wouldn't go the extra mile due to his drug issues and conditioning, but one thing for sure, rosarios power wasn't normal, he prooved that numerous of times, maybe you dont like Rosario but one thing for sure, take a close look at this fight and see how much rosario made bramble miss.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 when rosario wasn't slipping his punches he was blocking them with ease, look at his handspeed and defense, his timing and that speed let him connect with ease, i didn't see anything different with bramble, he tried to figure rosario out and went in with his usual quick punches, but foud himself missing and getting caught easily with big hooks and right hands just like with mancini, difference= these weren't mancinis hands, lol he felt them.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 its not like chavez was a test for bramble to tell if something was wrong or not or if he was going tomake it or not, rosario in actuality is a harder test dude, chavez wasnt a one punch ko artist, he slowed his opponents down through the body, cut the ring beautifully and was agressive 100% of the time, but still didnt pocess the hands rosario had, rosario made his mistakes vs chavez that lead to his lose, took too many body shots, stayed on the ropes but thats all
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 truth is the mans hands were of steele, excelent movement, slipping, speed, stamina, but when he struggled with drugs.... everything fell apart dude, no one knew what was to happen if he used it he'd might win or loose, if he didn't he was unstopable, simple as that, just a very sad story and unlimited talent... its as simple as that man, from an early stage he was into it and by the time he fought ramirez second time and camacho he was deep into it, he would just collapse.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 these are just my thoughts... edwin was a boxer puncher with great movement, no way he was going to stay there and simply brawl with bramble. he made bramble miss and pay since the bell rang... The bright side is Bramble lost to rosario who could take anyone out at anytime, if he'd fought chavez, chavez was going to go straight to the body the mayority of the fight to shatter that ribcage, who knows the permanent damage he could have done to bramble, Chavez messed up alot of guys.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@x5xtonyx5x I think it was Bramble who had smoked too much weed. He said he was a Rastafarian and they all smoke weed it's part of their kooky religion. I think Bramble might've been baked in this fight look at the ending. He backs up goes down and just stays there, he looks perfectly fine he could've gotten up but had no desire to do so. That's what happens when you smoke too much weed, you have no ambition and you don't want to do anything physical
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 to be honest if what u said was true then he did it all the time not just for this fight, and they said he also practiced witch craft stuff.but the truth in my opinion is if he was baked for this fight he would have walked through rosario, he wasn't going to feel the power man, look at the mancini fight then this one, look at how much mancini missed and got tagged, mancini stood in front of him. each time bramble jabed it hit mancini, and yet mancini wasn't as crisp and explosive.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 weed may relax people but it can amp people up make them hype as well and crazy, so if anything bramble to better shots with the numbness. bramble landed everything he threw with mancini including making mancini miss alot, Chapo made bramble miss and capitalized with huge hook and rights, Loreto Lagarza was one tough punch resistant porspect, they put Chapo infront of him and lagarza was suppose to eat him like a cupcake, instead each time rosario tapped him with the right hed fall
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@x5xtonyx5x Coke amps up people. Weed slows people down. My gut instinct is that Bramble didn't take this guy seriously. Remember the whole card was called "Preamble to Bramble". People were clamoring for Bramble vs Camacho. After Bramble beat Mancini twice and Crawley the press was saying that Bramble would be champ for years they could see no flaws in him. It's the old story of a fighter reading his own clippings.
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 slows people down but can numb u as well, ive seen pot headed people with gloves on before and they clearly have the advantage, they barely feel the punches, everyone took him seriously he was the dude that had his troubles but could take anyone out at any time. rosario would have been the superstar if he'd live a smart , clean life. all i see here is what happened to the strong prospets that laughed at rosario....(they got destroyed).
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 stop comparing mancini, mancini was too easy to hit, look at rosarios footwork in this fight man, look at his jab and movement, how does it look anything like mancini? he made bramble miss and bombed away, he was the counterpuncher, if anything bramble was suppose to do better here because of his confidence, weed slows you down but it didn't seemed to slow bramble down when the bell rang. rosario is not mancini or crawley,rosario had great defense & lost at times from not using it.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 even when bramble tried to counter rosario would have score the jab and moved away making bramble miss, he turned camacho into a running safety first fighter, something bazooka limon didn't do, clean rosario vs clean bramble (if he wasnt clean here) would be the same, rosario was unstopable when clean. if brambles prob would have been smoking weed he would have been exposed waay before.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 at the end of the day what is easier and harder, beating a brwaler in mancini who was going to be easy to hit and stand infront of you all night long swinging for the fences, giving you a constant opening to the body and head for you to counter, or rosario, would use movement of the feet and head and great blocking to try to make you miss and counter, had speed in both hands, was short quick and crisp with his shots, he could be an easy mess or a train coming your way, think hard.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 in my opinion there were great lightweights, the best to me duran, chavez one of the best with shattering combos using his bodyshots to make you collapse in the later rounds, durans solid punches that was described as leonard as feeling like actual, rocks , stones, bricks, still no man has had sucj a devastating, wall droping, shattering righ hand/right hook like this man chapo, like him or not.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@x5xtonyx5x If that had been true Rosario wouldve kod Chavez b/c he landed plenty of times yet never hurt him. Chavez exposed him as being one-dimensional. Arguello had a better right than Rosario. But one punch power doesnt make a good fighter. Chavez was good. Pacman is very good. Duran was better. But the best lighter weight fighter ever IMO was Aaron Pryor. In his prime Pryor was simply invincible, he fought every round at 100mph and never took a step back, he was incredible!
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 ramirez the man who fought arguello and rosario claimed and stated himself thast rosario hit harder than arguello and had more raw power, chavez and ramirez had steel chins and never were stopped in prime. rosario landed shots to chavez head correct, chavez having the steel chin, but never went to the body, stayed on the ropes and recieved unnecesary punishment, if he would have moved away and landed things would have been different, THE MAN WAS A DRUG ADDICT!!!!!!!
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 ever heard of panama lewis and luis resto, panama lewis the man knowing for using an illegal substance that treats asthma patients, in order to open the lungs of his fighter, remember arguello and pryor being tired as dogs, and pryor miracly gaining some stamina and energy out of nowhere in the final rounds? and panama lewis being heard saying "give me the bottle, Which one this one? No the one i mixed...humm wonder what that means.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@x5xtonyx5x Panama explained that it was soda water to settle Pryor's stomach b/c of this controversy they had a rematch and Pryor totally overwhelmed AA proving that he was the better faster fighter. In his prime Pryor beats everyone from lightweight-welter. He was great in the AA fights but he was even better against Dujuan Johnson.
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 and not mentuion luis resto admitted and confess he used this substance and lewis gave it to him for the collins fight, Resto describes it as feeling like "oooh shit, this feels good!!!" he said it open his lungs so pryor must have felt like he was in the 9th round when he was in the 14th. this is a shame, and again rosario too many experts is the most raw hardest hitting lightweight, i didn't say best.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@x5xtonyx5x I wouldnt believe a word Resto says. Here was this bum with a shitty record and Panama helps him by taking him into his gym. At the time Panama was one of the best trainers he was in Duran's corner for his 1st fight with Leonard and in Pryor's 1st fight with AA. So out of the goodness in his heart he trains Resto. My gut instinct is that Resto and one of his other cornermen fixed his gloves. Panama wouldnt do it b/c he was a trainer of champions why ruin himself over this bum?
gonzomoya420 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 each time chapo got a right hand in there against lagarza he'd drop him like a wall, now was lagarza baked? i dont think so, rosario was addicted to terible gloves that ruined your body, weed is a drug but noit to compare with coke or any of those drugs that completely destroy your eyesight, lungs, and heart. Chapo was just clean for this one, and Bramble felt those hands.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 one of the only men you'd see tap a guy with the right and see them go down like a tree, and talking of one dimensional, dude! look at his footwork, the man never walked up or ran up to a guy he did it strictly with bouncing foot work to always remain in balance, fighters today take steps towards there opponents, it was difficult to see this from Rosario, he was unfortunate wasted talent, how can you have so much movement on your feet head, and great combos & be one dimensional.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
what a disappointment this fight was. Bramble, after those great fights with Mancini and Crawley just collapsed in this fight. He was so colorful and so popular and he just folded. I remember at the time there was so much talk of Bramble and his future and it all evaporated because he quit after only 2 rounds to a guy who was so one-dimensional and ordinary. Such a shame!
gonzomoya420 10 months ago
@gonzomoya420 one dimensional? lol... yeah when he let himself get carried away with power and completely changed his style because of it... he was one dimensional when he got deeply into drugs, and still destroyed several young prospects that were suppose to walk through him like a bull. Rosario had freakish rare power in both hands that only iron chinned warrior like ramirez and chavez withstood, none of them were stopped in prime, only ramirez once by the great punch olivarez.
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 and when he fought bramble was already falling apart into deugs and with his training, prime, clean rosario was a bull, with good head movement, great timing, and great combos always looking to set up a huge right hand which dropped so mny senseless, so i dont know where this comes from, if anything if he lived a clean life he'd had no limits, also considering his height for the weight, for heaven sake he walk through juan nazario and was then ko'd by him, the man was troubled...
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
@gonzomoya420 maybe predictable but not one dimensonal, especially in his clean prime, very short prime but drugs was what borderd that, if he was clean, he was a Pure Beast, he wasn;t it could have gone either way, but bramble was a good warrior he had his wars, theres no shame in loosing to one of the most powerful lightweights to ever step in the ring, no disrespect, just my thoughts...
x5xtonyx5x 9 months ago
Yes it was-he wore a black tuxedo, with red bowtie when watching fights live. He was wearing the same thing when I met him too. What a class-act. R.I.P. Alexis Arguello.
SteveZeeVideo 10 months ago
Hey, is that Alexis Arguello at 1:59 to 2:07 on Rosario's right drinking from a plastic cup?
jamdowner 11 months ago
Another good thing you will notice about the Referee is that you hardly see him blocking the view. Many Referees are always blocking the action, but not in this case. Take this tape to Referee Training school.
KleePietro 1 year ago
I was in this fight in 1986 and the general feeling was that it was going to be close and competitive. What surprised me was that Bramble did not fight back or even moved to avoid the punches. After the first uppercut he just received punishment and threw only 3-4 meaningless punches. To beat Rosario you had to have a good chin and both, Bramble and Loreto Garza did not have it.
KleePietro 1 year ago
uno de los mas fuertes pegadores en los ligeros de todos los tiempos.. descansa en paz chapo
fernan2901 1 year ago
Watch the Referee from 6:45 to the end with a first class job. Check specially at 7:05 - 7:10 where he is so close to both fighters that in fact, he is telling LB to respond! He shows real concern for the fighter. One of the most professional and dynamic showings I have seen by a Referee in more that 50 yrs of watching fights. Excellent!
KleePietro 1 year ago
@KleePietro I agree the ref did a very nice job (and I am often pretty critical of them). Superb outing for Rosario. Am surprised Bramble got taken out so early. Sure he got hit, but I've seen boxers endure and even come back from far more brutal beatings. But props to ER.
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
Rosario looks better here than I have ever seen him.
Who is the idiot announcer who is screaming and screaming? What a jerk.
marcxopoco 1 year ago
Yo soy americano pero yo megusta Edwin Rosiro el tiene mucho "guts y El Chappo tiene mucho fursa y el manos de el es rapido, tambien. El tiene el corrizone de un grand campion. Via con Dios amiogo. We miss you!
derekoliver1 1 year ago
Livingstone bramble does not like to have this video shown
R.I.P. Chapo
LMLR187 1 year ago
Chapo's greatest victory. Mancini fought 29 rounds with this man and lost both, Chapo got him out of there in 2. Impressive...
chifuli1974 1 year ago
Agree, Chapo was bad @ss, he used to train with us when he was really into the drugs, he was way out of shape bare footed and stinky and used to come to the gym to get tips and even tough he was out of it he hited like a mule and gave us good tips. One of my favorites..
sydnietaina 1 year ago
fukin bramble was good til this fight but he would never b the same. its jus the way it goes sum fighters cant bounce bak from defeat and big knockouts.
mike2hype 1 year ago
@mike2hype:
Easier said than done. At least it took El Chapo to beat him.
tw69hands2 1 year ago
@tw69hands2 thats true but not only did chapo ruin bramble but he ruined himself. destructiveness is a motherfuker!
mike2hype 1 year ago
@tw69hands2
Right. Bramble wasn't unbeatable at all... but he was no chump either. He was strong and had long arms. At the time I thought Ros. would beat him by decision. Was shocked he beat Bramble down like that. Bramble looked hard and tuff...and potentially damaging ...and he was. He just was by no means invincible or unbeatable for that matter. Still Ros. by-past all my expectation of how he would just dethrone Bramble. Bramble was a solid fighter no doubt (just not elite as some thought(
ianbillen 1 year ago
@ianbillen:
Rosario had a knack for winning a title when no one else figured he would. He seemed to lose interest when it came to defending it, but he knew how to get himself into that state of mind when it came to winning one.
tw69hands2 1 year ago
Bramble didnt quit,thats wasnt his nature,he was battered down and could not recover.
Birdsofprey56 1 year ago
he wasnt underrated, he just lost a few fights that he was expected to win. Definitely 1 of the harder punchers, u could hear the deep and stiff sounds of his punches
ruby1uby 1 year ago
que salsa meaning what a whoop ass beating Rosario one of the great ones rip
efoz1 1 year ago
no hl or tributes of edwin rosario ?????
ProKILLER91J 1 year ago
Huge puncher and a terrific ass kicking performance. Was never my fav fighter but damn he could punch.
RIP
shaolin95 1 year ago
Chapo was a big puncher, goes to show everyone how great Chavez's chin was!! Chavez who took all of Rosario's best punches in thier fight. Bramble was a warrior his fight with Oba Carr was a dam good fight, dude looked like a pitbull in that fight..
damage915 1 year ago
Some Pit Bull! Bramble quit!
sac2la 1 year ago
Rosario was very underrated, I thought he got jobbed against Camacho. It's interesting you can kinda also see his influence on Trinidad's fight style as well.
merce77 1 year ago
Chapo had to be one of the hardest punchers EVER.
70gabino 1 year ago
Bramble was a bitch
rd062080 1 year ago
@BXMammal Bramble was a warrior i know he never surender you can see that in the Mancinni fight and Bramble was a super great boxer. but we have to give credit to Chapo Rosario he died a few tears ago. Rosario was a three time world champion and fought great fighters like Chavez, Howard Davis and Jose Luis Ramirez.
joevald32 1 year ago
@BXMammal Dude he was ko...
joevald32 1 year ago
Man, Chapo had it for a while. Too bad he got raped by Chavez.
smithjustin77 1 year ago
@smithjustin77 Man Chavez was the best pound per pound fighter in hes era...he was to much for Chapo Rosario...
joevald32 1 year ago
I trained with Chapo and With another great fighter puncher Wilfredo Vazquez.. I saw Edwin on his prime and saw him when he was just a victim of wrong decissions. It was a shame, he use to help us in the gym even spar with us. he was barefooted and un clean, but always very humble. He had such power that even out of shape he use to hurt d most of us.
sydnietaina 2 years ago
@sydnietaina I remember Vazquez, do you know what he is doing now??
Trashfished 2 years ago
@Trashfished vazquez is training his son with same name, and become about 2 month ago world champion too!
terrorizerr1 1 year ago
I'm from the SF bay area. I knew BHOF member Johnny Gonzalves who at 70+ just showing me a punch hit the tip of my chin, I think I saw a couple of stars. Point is professional fighters no matter what their KO record is hit way harder than the average bear.
tellthetruthg 2 years ago
@sydnietaina Yes...Chapo one of the most underated champions' ever. He put everything together for this fight...great foot movement.... not wasting any punches...and putting his man away when he got him hurt. Many say Bramble quit.....Those that do just can't appreciated how hard Rosario hit. Livingstone just couldn't take anymore.
SR71BBFLYER 1 year ago
Just an absolute domination of a real good fighter. I dont even think Bramble believes this happened, claiming he got thumbed later on. Yeah ok
torr5962 2 years ago
thats how u finish a fight. !!
marvindiggla 2 years ago 2
chavez first 41 fight with c class fighters and chavez jr is following his steps with 40 fight against c class fighters.i don't think he was that good
caballarde 2 years ago
Those 40+ fights helped Chavez become a legend. He was def. a great. Chavez Jr. cant get a good win even with performance enhancers haha. Rosario would have better if he had laid off the crack.
ELHURACAN58 2 years ago
@caballarde your right
holywar911 2 years ago
Everybody is talking about wath Rosario could have been. bla bla bla. He did much more than you and he liked cocaine. rip Rosario, a very entertaining champ.
Doderhultarn89 2 years ago
Whoever said the wars with Mancini are what made Bramble not get up. No way. Bramble fought another 30 fights. Fact is and maybe it is hard to accept. Rosario hit much harder than Mancini and was better . He demolished Bramble and hit him with hammering punches. Bramble tried to take them, but everything was landing and clean. It was a matter of time that he would go down. No one takes those punches and keeps fighting. Bramble was too good and strong for Bramble.
Boxing1984California 2 years ago
Why do we comment on Whitaker and Cahvez on a Rosario's fight?
nick1729 2 years ago
i know the man , he couldnt see, he just took the count....
MunsonFan015 2 years ago
Yeah right..He couldn't see because of that HUGH right hand to the chin....LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
fitnessfreak90201 2 years ago
lol , your prob. right .....
MunsonFan015 2 years ago
I was shocked that Bramble didn't get up, he didn't want to get up obviously, those brawls with Mancini took alot out of Bramble.
kdemonde 2 years ago
yeah they did
CelticKid92 2 years ago
Ivan Robinson had three fights with Arturo Gatti, after that he was never the same, Eric Morales had three fights with Marco Antonio Barrera, after that he was never the same, Riddick Bowe had those fights with Andrew Golota, after that he was never the same, Evander Holyfield had those three fights with Riddick Bowe, after that he really was never the same. Mickey Ward had three fights with Arturo Gatti, after that he had to retire. Fighters put their all into one fighter and lose everything.
kdemonde 2 years ago
yeah thats all true. especially riddick bowe. u can see it in his fights with andrew golata. he won off low blows but that was lucky
CelticKid92 2 years ago
whats lucky about a low blow?
82TheGodOfWar 2 years ago
bowe was getting his ass kicked then golata got stupid and got himself disqualified
CelticKid92 2 years ago
Thats Not Luck. Thats Just One Mans Dumbness and ignorance
82TheGodOfWar 2 years ago
alright buddy chill out it was just a youtube comment
CelticKid92 2 years ago
Who said I was getting upset? Youre the one pushing the Bowe-Golata issue.
82TheGodOfWar 2 years ago
no i wasnt i made a comment and you started pushing it
CelticKid92 2 years ago
Bramble got thumbed really badly & couldn't even see
4capulina 2 years ago
he didnt get thumbed, he couldnt handle rosario power. no excuses.
louie1967 2 years ago
Chapo had heavy hands.
BufordStone 2 years ago
A TRUE SHOCKER.
uncjim 2 years ago
Bramble was the favorite for this fight. Rosario just jumped on top of him and LB could not react. Besides, Rosario was a heavier puncher than LB. Rosario was not always the mostd disciplined guy in the gym. But this time he took this match seriously and trained well.
KleePietro 2 years ago
I got to meet edwin rosario at MSG, he gave me autograph. he was a nice person. Never in my wildest dream did I realize that it was the second to last fight he will have. he passed away later.
louie1967 2 years ago
How did Rosario die? how old was he when died?
kdemonde 2 years ago
the cause of death was aneurysm, 34 years old. he died at puerto rico.
louie1967 2 years ago
Thanks, RIP! Chapo!
kdemonde 2 years ago
limon, castillo,lasporte,camacho,all past there prime chavez was good but far from being great, never really beat in all time great fighter the guys you name lost sanchez, perdroza and to alexis in there primes name one all time great fighter chavez beat in his prime taylor was average and he lost 9 0f 12 rounds.
3232rams 2 years ago
hey ramirez was tough he was right with chavez when all of a sudden they stopped the fight but rosario won the first fight why did chavez avoid nelson he chased him for a fight but never got it i agree with you chavez was good but not great he pickes and chose his fights. do you think he beat sweat pea
3232rams 2 years ago
I don't think Chavez beat Whitaker, then again, did "Sweet Pea" ever really beat Chavez? I think ya gotta give Chavez more credit. C'mon, over 100 wins? 70-80 KOs. Limon, Castillo, La Porte, Mayweather, Camacho, Taylor... Man had an epic career.
lemonite1 2 years ago
everyone knows chavez wasnt a great as a welter
but at 130 135 and 140 he was a beast
if sweet pea hadnt ducked him at 140 it wouldve been a different story...
LONGBEACHMOJO 2 years ago
I agree,to this day I still don't know why boxing fans won't give Chavez any credit.
lemonite1 2 years ago 2
you believe what you want to hear duran would have ate chavez up then spit him back to mexico rosario beat ramierz up for 2 rounds then ran out of gas was not inshape at all chavez sucks his son sucks to
3232rams 2 years ago
What the fuck you talking about ! shit head ! ! where talking about Rosario not Duran shit 4 brains ! are you that stupid ! you can't understand a question ! ha ha ha that's what your all about full of excuses ! you must be on crack like most of your people back in the Island ! ROSARIO GOT HIS ASS KICK TWICE BY RAMIREZ & CHAVEZ ! STOP MAKING EXCUSES ! YOU DUMB ASS
chanoc33 2 years ago
hey dumb ass rosario died at 35 of a cocaine overdose enough said chaves pick his fights his whole career lockride beat him randell beat and sweat pea schooled him if sanchez does not get killes you never her of chavez dumb ass no wonder the country is going to shit
3232rams 2 years ago
I mean what a shallacking. He was starting to back up in round two way before his eye swelled and he was getting nailed and hurt before the eye swelled. Bramble was just outclassed. Sort of an amusing fight when you take into consideration how tough Bramble talked before the fight.
Boxing1977Boxing 2 years ago
after the fight Bramble is acting like he lost because of his eye swelling. Doesn't he realize everyone saw him getting demolished even before that uppercut hit his eye? He actually could not accept that he was throurouglly overpowered. Rosario outclassed and outpowered him.
Boxing1977Boxing 2 years ago
Rosario outclassed Bramble. I remember this fight. Rosario left hook stunned Hector Camacho in his previous fight, and in this fight Bramble was demolished. Rosario hit him with his best punches over and over. I was shocked how easy it was for Rosario. This showed me and others how overrated Bramble was. Rosario beat him easily and just was too strong for Bramble. Too strong.
Boxing1977Boxing 2 years ago
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rmrooster01 2 years ago
rmrooster...
No offense, but do you know what it means for someone to be a "vaunted prospect" ?
Sanchez was largely unknown, in America, up until he beat Lopez. He also had a loss on his record. Rosario was fighting on the networks, before he won a title, was destroying people, & had the boxing media/purists thinking they were witnessing the second coming.
Sanchez wound up being a much greater fighter, but expectations were higher for Rosario- by a mile. I was there.
jabs1969 2 years ago
rosario could have been great but he had a real bad cocaine problem he was great in this fight but only trained 9 days for chavez fight this rosario gives chavez all he wants.
3232rams 2 years ago
What is the excuse when Rosario was KO by Ramirez ? ha ha ha
chanoc33 2 years ago
This still ranks as one of the greatest offensive performances I have evr witnessed. Look at the angles Rosario is throwing from, with all of that power & precision. Freaking beautiful!
jabs1969 2 years ago 2
Rosario is one of the best punchers in boxing history....yet must go down as a disappointment. If anyone followed boxing back in '81ish, they'd know that there has really never been a prospect so damn vaunted like this guy was....not even Tyson or Ayala had what this guy did early on.
jabs1969 2 years ago 2
'81ish you forgot SAlVADOR SANCHEZ CHAVA!
rmrooster01 2 years ago
chapo had everything to be a top puertorican legend,unfortunately,he had trouble with drugs and many personal problems.everytime he made a comeback he would fall back to that life.i do wonder what could had happened if chavez would had faced a dicipline rosario? R.I.P. ROSARIO
veteranopenolano 2 years ago 2
I assumed when they fought Rosario was in great condition and therefore disciplined. He had to be in good shape to take the beating he took. Anyway, maybe the fight might had been closer, but I still believe Chavez would've gotten him. Rosario landed some huge punches on Chavez and they seemed to bounce off with no effect whatsoever. He couldn't hurt Chavez and I believe didn't have the skill to outbox him.
sinusbradycardia 2 years ago
rosario was on a 6 week cocaine run watch the fight all he does is lay on the ropes and stands flat footed he only trained 9 days for the fight don king threw 2 million dollars at him so he took the fight in the bramble fight look how sharpe he is and the speed he has in the chavez fight he had nothing.
3232rams 2 years ago
Well, that may be the case. But too me Bramble didn't look like he had anything to offer in this fight. He was the one standing and taking a beating. However, we can only go based on what happened. For an out of shape guy, he sure took a hellva beating. I state again, Rosario didn't have the skill the outbox chavez, even if he wasn't "handicapped" and didn't have the power to hurt chavez so regardless of which rosario showed up the result to me was a foregone conclusion.
sinusbradycardia 2 years ago
I thought Rosario was gonna win, but Chavez was pure greatness....& his destruction of Rosario is one of the single greatest performances in boxing history. Rosario could have never beaten Chavez, IMO.
jabs1969 2 years ago
hey get the facts rosario was on cacaine he trained 9 days for the chavez fight don king threw 2 million at him so he took the fight chavez was good but in shape rosario has a shot
3232rams 2 years ago
he traines 9 days for the chavez fight he was on a 6 week cocaine run look how fast he is in this fight moving punching in the chavez fight he stood flat footed laid on the ropes he had nothing to give he took 2 million trained 9 days another don king set up
3232rams 2 years ago
i agree with you the speed the angles the power in this fight he was great in the chavez fight he laid on the ropes stood flat footed he had nothing i heard he was on a 6 week cocaine run and only trained 9 days for the chavez fight god bless you edwin
3232rams 2 years ago
Rasario was an extraordinary puncher. He had the unfortunate fate coming along in the same era with a fighter with an extraordinary chin - JC Chavez. Bramble had a pretty good chin as well.
Anyway, RIP Chapo, you are missed.
sinusbradycardia 2 years ago
Chapo was so freaking impressive! Great boxer and puncher.
rubenmendez0327 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I thought so too. After Rosario lost to Camacho and Bramble beat Mancini there was no reason to think Rosario was gunna win. I disagree though, I thought Chapo was at the top, JC Chavez is just epic.
lemonite1 2 years ago
Notice that Rosario decided to box and wait patiently for his openings in this one. He could box quite effectively when he wanted to, and he was much better as a boxer / puncher than when he resorted to being a pure slugger. Unfortunately, he often did exactly that, and it cost him dearly in some of his bigger fights.
ElFlacoVerde 2 years ago
You are spot on. But don't careers go that way? A guy comes up with talent and punching power, he learns to box and wins championships, then he may lose some big fights, then he may go back to being a brawler just to get decent fights late in his career? Arturo Gatti comes to mind, so does Bobby Chacon. El Chapo was great.......
lemonite1 2 years ago 2
Well, he lost the title to Ramirez the first time by slugging. But I think that was determined as much by anything as the fact that he (Rosario) wasn't in great shape for the fight. Sometimes he trained like a Spartan warrior, and when he did so, he brought a lot more aspects to the ring for his opponent to have to deal with. On other occasions, he was somewhat slack with his training and had to rely purely on his power.
ElFlacoVerde 2 years ago
His jab was working on this night huh?Some kinda head movement in the first(side 2 side) allowed "Chapo" to figure out Bramble's range and timing. This is the stuff to teach young fighters. Lets not forget Bramble was on a streak at this point.
lemonite1 2 years ago
duran would have ate chavez up and spit the beannie out
3232rams 2 years ago
ha ha ha ! what happen are you angry ? you didn't answer my question ! and by the way learn how to spell you dumb ass ! you didn't answer my question cause your to stupid to understand what your reading ! crack head ! !
chanoc33 2 years ago