oh, do NOT get me started on the english baceloreate, my school is so desperate to get children a bacheloreate that I am literally forced to try to get a C grade in german with only a year and a half of studying, these extra german lessons actually take up 3 of the 4 PE lessons I should be legaly made to do, and would do if not for this accursed bachaloreate
This is one of the worst things about our country, if you are poor the best chance you have of getting an decent education is to go to a religious school. To get into these schools you have to go to church which is dreadful. I went to my local comp it was awful basically just baby sitting, get people up to average not their best.
@Scarletpooky Good question indeed. I think we shall need to Google the subject for more information : this will be quicker than trying to get a straight answer from our Ministry of Education which thrives on verbiage.
-RE examinations require that students be able to understand both sides of an argument, making the teaching of reasons for disbelief a vital part of the syllabus.
-Many teachers are agnostic and (in any case) even a strongly religious teacher will not believe in all 6 central religions.
I'm not convinced that you'd find the GCSE examinations to be such a doddle that they take no qualifications to teach.
& STAND UP TO THE ISRAEL/AMERICA PACT OVER PALESTINE!
Palestinians have to live on only 15% of regular supplies DUE TO THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI BLAOCKADE WHICH HAS STOOD FOR DECADES. Or are we just another U.S. lap dog state now?
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What a dullard. I've met a thousand people just like this Dingus! He pretends that he is some kind of deep thinking intellectual, whereas the reality is that he is a man who has throughout his life striven for mediocrity & has been found wanting.
@tenneral Don't worry, Mr.T., if you were a mediocre dullard you never would have seen through the Catholic church... you couldn't have produced so many cogent, intelligible and audible videos... and you NEVER could keep such a productive garden. That "jk147a" clearly was referring to someone else.
@juliuschas Many thanks for the encouraging assurance. I never cancel comments but you can see how jk147a (who he?) worded his remarks without much evidence against me or MacGrath!!
@tenneral My biggest problem with teaching religion in schools is that it's taught as fact, just like any other subject. Now we know that subjects such as maths or English are, in fact, fact, NOBODY can state that the story of the bible is. My son came home from school the other week and started talking about God and Jesus and when i asked how he knew he said they had done it in school, HE'S 4!! I was furious, he goes to school for 3hrs per day, this, to me, is tantamount to brainwashing!
@unclenewy To follow my previous post. I don't hold anything against anyone believing in whichever religion they choose, but if you're going to teach it to impressionable kids at such a young age, then you must show them the other side of the coin and teach teach the evolution theory along side it. I was taught Religious Education at school, but then was also taught evolution during both history and biology, both as fact! It's wrong.
I really loved geometry and did very well in it. While I also loved history and geography my inability to remember exact dates served me poorly in those studies. To this day I can still construct a basic time line of what happened when I just can't get the year exactly right. It seems that skill serves little purpose once one leaves the halls of academia.
The tree looks fabulous. As a student, I would have envied your skill in geometry. I barely got through it in high school. Not sure why I never took to it or math generally. But appropos memorable & qualified teachers, I was sent to summer school for freshman algebra, having failed it during the academic year. A lovely man called Brother Robert was my summer school algebra teacher. He was the Anne Sullivan to my algebraic Helen-Keller-ness. It felt quite nice finally to understand it all. ;-)
I remember my high school geometry class. I made a 97/100 on the first test, the second best grade was a 70. No one else seemed to "get" proofs, they were like common sense to me.
I just wonder why just do the IB if your that way inclined but I would find it an insult to me and the teacher for someone to expect me to lurn a langue or some one to teach it to me. I meen I'm doing so called hard subjects (double math phisics and chemistry) but theres not many others that I would be worth my time I'd just fail them
Have you ever considered employing your teaching skills in your YouTube vids? I don't mean to imply that you haven't thus far, but I was thinking more along the lines of a short series on a subject you find interesting. Maybe something that the sceptical / non-religious community would enjoy, say the ancient history of the middle east. Just an idea, I'm sure many of your subscribers would appreciate something like that whatever the subject matter.
I just enjoy your videos so much, I feel as if I am listening to a friend. I went to a very strict Catholic School so I was taught Religion everyday except for Saturday.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Your apple tree is lovely, I have an ornamental plum and cherry in my yard, I wish the blossoms lasted longer. The first good rain washes them away.
@TrillianAlice I have to smile a little, I went to your videos to see if I had missed any and I went to one back and I said almost the same thing. If I showed you pictures of my family, you look just like some of them. I find it fascinating, the resemblance is amazing. Oh well, the oddities of life. Take Care
I was taught religious education by Sister Josephine in my Roman Catholic school in Swindon ..where have all the nuns gone nowadays?? .. I haven't seen one in years.
The comment of diverting the conversation with your teacher reminded me of one of my old teachers, history to be precise. All someone had to do was mention cats and we may as well just end the lesson lol
The description of what subjects are contained reminded me of my options in school heading into the 5th year (I was in the first year of students to do the 'new' GCSE). We had to have english and maths, 1 language, science (either specific or combined) and either history or geography. Then we could take others to fill up the 8 subjects required.
Even though we had RE for the first 3 years it was not part of the options.
@Scarletpooky It's actually really annoying for teachers to be expected to teach RE to students who did not actually select the subject. On the other hand, they can't argue about it too much because it ensures that they still have jobs open.
But yeah, even if the new Bac doesn't include RE that doesn't mean that the rules have changed that require it to be taught to all year groups. It simply means it won't count towards the Bac. I'm surprised that RE won't be part of the options though.
@Fatpie42 In my school the first 3 years were set timetables that all students did, that included RE. It was only for the 4-5th years that we had the options for picking subjects we wanted to take as GCSE. I honestly can't remember if RE was one of the options, I only remember that it wasn't a compulsory subject.
Only five lessons were compulsory, other 3 were open choice. The Bac doesn't sound like it wil fill a timetible so probably will have some additional choices too I'm guessing.
How splendid to see spring, well, springing before your eyes. We had a warm few days here, then it went right back to winter. Reminds me of my old car.
Ah, religious education. We didn't have it as a requirement where I grew up, but I had it anyway via my family's church. Looking back, Bible stories work well with children (provided you sanitize them first!) because there's a fairy tale aspect to so many of them...
@RustyTube And I'm sure it's very picturesque too : but the year is too far gone to have snow here although I do remember getting about 6 inches at the end of April about 20 years ago. Thank goodness for Climate Change!!
Poor ol' McGrath, he does seem to be rather desperate for any old job of late. I imagine his book sales may have plummeted to new depths as well. Still, I fear we haven't heard the last of him - just yet.
My RE teacher (talking retrospectively) was an active christian late middle-aged lady, who always put emphasis on Christianity, but invited speakers or practitioners of other religions, from time to time, to speak to us. Bear in mind this was at an inner-city comprehensive in the late 80's. I remember an Imam coming in and the class just laughed at his beliefs! seriously - he was mocked! that would NEVER happen today - if it did, it'd be all over the news and no doubt embassies would be burning!
@neil73 It's pretty shocking to laugh at any speaker invited to your school (unless, of course, the speaker is using comedy to put their point across). I don't know that it would be all over the news, mind you. But it would not be good for the school's reputation...
It is probably an imperative that a teacher of religion NOT be qualified, because I don't think somebody who knows enough of the bible to actually teach it, can honestly teach it as fact.
@dangerouslytalented Seeing as RE teachers are expected to teach the holy texts and beliefs of Sikhism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism, I think teaching it all as fact would make them look like extreme cases of multiple personality disorder. While it might have been all about teaching the Bible when tenneral was at school (often known as "religious instruction") times have changed and now it's more about ensuring that people can appreciate alternative viewpoints, which is a real benefit.
When I was at high school I was given Religious Education in all the major religions except Christianity (my knowledge of which remains shockingly bad). I remember desperately trying to memorise the names of the Hindu Gods before an RE exam. I can still remember some of them. Interesting stuff, but it was time and effort that could have been put into something more useful if you ask me.
Was this a religious instruction class? I'd have a fair problem with that, but teaching about various religions and philosophies seems, at worst, a waste of time and money. I found what I got in my non-denominational high school to be interesting though the indoctrination bit at primary what with all the hymns was concerning.
On the note of those like Mr. Taylor: definitely the most valuable part of my (and I'd assume anybody's) schooling. Oh Mr. Evitt and his brewing in pre-Islamist Iran...
I have always had "issues" with the teaching of Religious education in school to the point that I exercised my rights as a parent to remove my children from the classes (Section 386 of the Education Act). I remain convinced that the teaching of RE is an underhanded indoctrination of children and I will have none of it. you cant "teach" religion to children without teaching them your own (or someone else's) views on "other" world religions (which aren't taught because its all christianity)!
In my school days 30 years ago, I remember that in general the qualified RE teachers had absolutely no control of the classroom, which wasn't helped by the fact that and none of the students had the slightest interest in learning anything about religion. Still, I found it a very useful class, as our weekly 1/2 hour lesson gave ample opportunity to do my other homework while the teachers tried to control the mayhem.
I realised during R.E. (5 years after you) that I had forgotten to do my French homework - the French teacher was legendary old-school disciplinarian. Mega-detentions if you didn't do your homework.
The RE teacher was soft - even though I got caught, I knew she wouldn't do anything (although I felt really guilty when she gave me that crest-fallen look [because I was one of her favourite students])
@dave28lax This too was what happened in all the schools I worked in. Religious Education was often quickly transformed into 'Put A Vaguely Ethics Based Video On to Keep The Buggers Quiet For Half An Hour'. Thank goodness I was teaching a serious subject!
@lurkio77 Calling RE a set of "disproved ideas" is misleading. RE explains the beliefs of a variety of religious groups and what those beliefs mean to indivudual believers. Also to reach the higher levels in the subject, students are expected to give their own views, even if those views are sceptical and negative, to show deeper understanding. Someone who only understands their own religion and no other will have trouble, as will those simply giving an agnostic shrug. Best to be opinionated.
I loved geometry, and later algebra. I still do problems sometimes, just to keep up. Hated physics, maybe that's why I have never stopped studying physics (I love challenges), even to this day. It has become very interesting to me.
Glad to hear religious education is getting less. IMO It's place is not in school. Let them teach it in the church.
I think it's important to teach religion in schools. By that I mean religion in general and using the opportunity to teach critical thinking at the same time. What qualifications would be required to teach the subject properly? Wouldn't you expect a teacher of English Literature to have done more than read the course text books? A properly qualified teacher would be more likely to have a deep understanding of the literature. Wouldn't that be the same for teachers of Religious Education?
@robthesamplist Sounds like too much trouble. Instead the surplus go to the neighbours who reciprocate with their own produce. I think neighbours will be doing a lot more of this as the price of food shifts upwards.
Teaching children about religion is highly important. With that I mean that they should know about all major religions. I teach comparative religion in my native Sweden and makes sure that my students knows about the big five. I also teach greek mythology in history and makes sure they know about the norse equivalent. We also discuss what beliefs are and how they differ from facts. An appreciated part since religous students are rare in the swedish classrooms these days.
@tenneral - Religious Studies as an atheist would be a fantastic subject to teach, just due to the discussions you can have, to be perfectly honest I was moving towards philosophy any simply because since taking the damn thing I am incapable of thinking unphilosophically about anything..
oh, do NOT get me started on the english baceloreate, my school is so desperate to get children a bacheloreate that I am literally forced to try to get a C grade in german with only a year and a half of studying, these extra german lessons actually take up 3 of the 4 PE lessons I should be legaly made to do, and would do if not for this accursed bachaloreate
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This is one of the worst things about our country, if you are poor the best chance you have of getting an decent education is to go to a religious school. To get into these schools you have to go to church which is dreadful. I went to my local comp it was awful basically just baby sitting, get people up to average not their best.
flake452 7 months ago
It just occured to me. With it being one award of multiple subjects does that mean it will be more like the america 'high school diploma' system?
Or will it still be that the subjects count seperately and if they pass the relevant ones they will also get this Bac?
Scarletpooky 10 months ago
@Scarletpooky Good question indeed. I think we shall need to Google the subject for more information : this will be quicker than trying to get a straight answer from our Ministry of Education which thrives on verbiage.
tenneral 10 months ago
A few important changes in RE today:
-Most schools will now teach 6 "world religions".
-RE examinations require that students be able to understand both sides of an argument, making the teaching of reasons for disbelief a vital part of the syllabus.
-Many teachers are agnostic and (in any case) even a strongly religious teacher will not believe in all 6 central religions.
I'm not convinced that you'd find the GCSE examinations to be such a doddle that they take no qualifications to teach.
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What a dullard. I've met a thousand people just like this Dingus! He pretends that he is some kind of deep thinking intellectual, whereas the reality is that he is a man who has throughout his life striven for mediocrity & has been found wanting.
jk147a 10 months ago
@jk147a Do you mean me or Alister MacGrath? If it's me you're getting at, be sure to make a video one day to demonstrate something better.
tenneral 10 months ago
@tenneral Don't worry, Mr.T., if you were a mediocre dullard you never would have seen through the Catholic church... you couldn't have produced so many cogent, intelligible and audible videos... and you NEVER could keep such a productive garden. That "jk147a" clearly was referring to someone else.
juliuschas 10 months ago 3
@juliuschas Many thanks for the encouraging assurance. I never cancel comments but you can see how jk147a (who he?) worded his remarks without much evidence against me or MacGrath!!
tenneral 10 months ago
@tenneral My biggest problem with teaching religion in schools is that it's taught as fact, just like any other subject. Now we know that subjects such as maths or English are, in fact, fact, NOBODY can state that the story of the bible is. My son came home from school the other week and started talking about God and Jesus and when i asked how he knew he said they had done it in school, HE'S 4!! I was furious, he goes to school for 3hrs per day, this, to me, is tantamount to brainwashing!
unclenewy 6 months ago
@unclenewy To follow my previous post. I don't hold anything against anyone believing in whichever religion they choose, but if you're going to teach it to impressionable kids at such a young age, then you must show them the other side of the coin and teach teach the evolution theory along side it. I was taught Religious Education at school, but then was also taught evolution during both history and biology, both as fact! It's wrong.
unclenewy 6 months ago
@jk147a Why you gotta be a hater, man?
roentgen571 10 months ago
Wow, I just found your channel. You are a very charming and enjoyable person to spend some time with. Cheers!
PixelSlayer247 10 months ago
I always love to listen to you.
scratchingcat 10 months ago 2
You showed us your kitchen, why not show us what you cook up with the apples?
BryceOfByrden 10 months ago
I really loved geometry and did very well in it. While I also loved history and geography my inability to remember exact dates served me poorly in those studies. To this day I can still construct a basic time line of what happened when I just can't get the year exactly right. It seems that skill serves little purpose once one leaves the halls of academia.
prodigyat9 10 months ago
The tree looks fabulous. As a student, I would have envied your skill in geometry. I barely got through it in high school. Not sure why I never took to it or math generally. But appropos memorable & qualified teachers, I was sent to summer school for freshman algebra, having failed it during the academic year. A lovely man called Brother Robert was my summer school algebra teacher. He was the Anne Sullivan to my algebraic Helen-Keller-ness. It felt quite nice finally to understand it all. ;-)
ProfMTH 10 months ago
I remember my high school geometry class. I made a 97/100 on the first test, the second best grade was a 70. No one else seemed to "get" proofs, they were like common sense to me.
ionz75 10 months ago
Good vids. I hope you will make some of your apples into cider :-)
mcrd2001 10 months ago
Show us your pips!
jimbob224 10 months ago
I just wonder why just do the IB if your that way inclined but I would find it an insult to me and the teacher for someone to expect me to lurn a langue or some one to teach it to me. I meen I'm doing so called hard subjects (double math phisics and chemistry) but theres not many others that I would be worth my time I'd just fail them
hens0w 10 months ago
If you're up for it, I wouldn't mind some basic geometry lessons.
KiaOra53 10 months ago
Now - Do these people want *all* religions taught about or one are they hankering after one specific religion taking precedence?
They probably have an ulterior motive but I imagine at this juncture they're doing the old "Some faith better than no faith" routine.
Widgetas 10 months ago
Very much enjoy your videos tenneral.
Have you ever considered employing your teaching skills in your YouTube vids? I don't mean to imply that you haven't thus far, but I was thinking more along the lines of a short series on a subject you find interesting. Maybe something that the sceptical / non-religious community would enjoy, say the ancient history of the middle east. Just an idea, I'm sure many of your subscribers would appreciate something like that whatever the subject matter.
jonredhornet 10 months ago
I just enjoy your videos so much, I feel as if I am listening to a friend. I went to a very strict Catholic School so I was taught Religion everyday except for Saturday.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Your apple tree is lovely, I have an ornamental plum and cherry in my yard, I wish the blossoms lasted longer. The first good rain washes them away.
TrillianAlice 10 months ago
@TrillianAlice I have to smile a little, I went to your videos to see if I had missed any and I went to one back and I said almost the same thing. If I showed you pictures of my family, you look just like some of them. I find it fascinating, the resemblance is amazing. Oh well, the oddities of life. Take Care
TrillianAlice 10 months ago
I was taught religious education by Sister Josephine in my Roman Catholic school in Swindon ..where have all the nuns gone nowadays?? .. I haven't seen one in years.
bonnie43uk 10 months ago
@bonnie43uk They've all left the convent and are now working in Sainsburys in the Brunel Centre!
tenneral 10 months ago
I don't have a problem with the teaching of religion. Religious indoctrination is something else entirely.
drakionx 10 months ago
Thanks!
rediband 10 months ago
The comment of diverting the conversation with your teacher reminded me of one of my old teachers, history to be precise. All someone had to do was mention cats and we may as well just end the lesson lol
Scarletpooky 10 months ago
The description of what subjects are contained reminded me of my options in school heading into the 5th year (I was in the first year of students to do the 'new' GCSE). We had to have english and maths, 1 language, science (either specific or combined) and either history or geography. Then we could take others to fill up the 8 subjects required.
Even though we had RE for the first 3 years it was not part of the options.
Scarletpooky 10 months ago
@Scarletpooky It's actually really annoying for teachers to be expected to teach RE to students who did not actually select the subject. On the other hand, they can't argue about it too much because it ensures that they still have jobs open.
But yeah, even if the new Bac doesn't include RE that doesn't mean that the rules have changed that require it to be taught to all year groups. It simply means it won't count towards the Bac. I'm surprised that RE won't be part of the options though.
Fatpie42 10 months ago
@Fatpie42 In my school the first 3 years were set timetables that all students did, that included RE. It was only for the 4-5th years that we had the options for picking subjects we wanted to take as GCSE. I honestly can't remember if RE was one of the options, I only remember that it wasn't a compulsory subject.
Only five lessons were compulsory, other 3 were open choice. The Bac doesn't sound like it wil fill a timetible so probably will have some additional choices too I'm guessing.
Scarletpooky 10 months ago
How splendid to see spring, well, springing before your eyes. We had a warm few days here, then it went right back to winter. Reminds me of my old car.
Ah, religious education. We didn't have it as a requirement where I grew up, but I had it anyway via my family's church. Looking back, Bible stories work well with children (provided you sanitize them first!) because there's a fairy tale aspect to so many of them...
hgryphon 10 months ago
Looking forward to the apples. If you show me your apples I'll show you my strawberries.
ozmoroid 10 months ago
@ozmoroid Excellent deal : my own strawberries are already in flower and I shall hope again to get a good crop.
tenneral 10 months ago
@ozmoroid lmao.
a11m0n 10 months ago
Full blossom? We have snow on the ground here in Wisconsin!
RustyTube 10 months ago
@RustyTube And cars in the ditch.
drakionx 10 months ago
@RustyTube And I'm sure it's very picturesque too : but the year is too far gone to have snow here although I do remember getting about 6 inches at the end of April about 20 years ago. Thank goodness for Climate Change!!
tenneral 10 months ago
@tenneral Oh, no, yours is the picturesque one. Ours is unpleasant.
RustyTube 10 months ago
I have recently been watching the Sam Harris debates with William Lane Craig. WLC reminds me of Alister McGrath but in a better suit, same waffle.
Tridhos 10 months ago
@Tridhos Very true, very true!
tenneral 10 months ago
Poor ol' McGrath, he does seem to be rather desperate for any old job of late. I imagine his book sales may have plummeted to new depths as well. Still, I fear we haven't heard the last of him - just yet.
THEHARMONIKZ 10 months ago
My RE teacher (talking retrospectively) was an active christian late middle-aged lady, who always put emphasis on Christianity, but invited speakers or practitioners of other religions, from time to time, to speak to us. Bear in mind this was at an inner-city comprehensive in the late 80's. I remember an Imam coming in and the class just laughed at his beliefs! seriously - he was mocked! that would NEVER happen today - if it did, it'd be all over the news and no doubt embassies would be burning!
neil73 10 months ago
@neil73 Nothing is so deadly to the lies of adults as the mockery of children. Hence that famous tale of Elisha and the Bears.
tenneral 10 months ago
@tenneral Very true. As far as I recall, the Imam was not bald though!
neil73 10 months ago
@neil73 It's pretty shocking to laugh at any speaker invited to your school (unless, of course, the speaker is using comedy to put their point across). I don't know that it would be all over the news, mind you. But it would not be good for the school's reputation...
Fatpie42 10 months ago
It is probably an imperative that a teacher of religion NOT be qualified, because I don't think somebody who knows enough of the bible to actually teach it, can honestly teach it as fact.
dangerouslytalented 10 months ago
@dangerouslytalented Seeing as RE teachers are expected to teach the holy texts and beliefs of Sikhism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism, I think teaching it all as fact would make them look like extreme cases of multiple personality disorder. While it might have been all about teaching the Bible when tenneral was at school (often known as "religious instruction") times have changed and now it's more about ensuring that people can appreciate alternative viewpoints, which is a real benefit.
Fatpie42 10 months ago
I'm jealous, as I look out my window I see light snow falling on the still bare apple trees.
TheMudbrooker 10 months ago
"I bet I still can"
Ohhh that sounds like a challenge :)
Woad25 10 months ago
@Woad25 Even now, I'm looking out my copy of Durrell's Complete Geometry!
tenneral 10 months ago
To be fair, my RE teacher's first lesson was on why religions exist.
The "who am I?", "what am I?", "where am I?", "what next?" questions.
Then, each couple of weeks, we would take on a different religion.
So, at least it was comparative. I don't remember atheism being included though.
jazzx251 10 months ago
When I was at high school I was given Religious Education in all the major religions except Christianity (my knowledge of which remains shockingly bad). I remember desperately trying to memorise the names of the Hindu Gods before an RE exam. I can still remember some of them. Interesting stuff, but it was time and effort that could have been put into something more useful if you ask me.
ChrisMCITP 10 months ago
Was this a religious instruction class? I'd have a fair problem with that, but teaching about various religions and philosophies seems, at worst, a waste of time and money. I found what I got in my non-denominational high school to be interesting though the indoctrination bit at primary what with all the hymns was concerning.
On the note of those like Mr. Taylor: definitely the most valuable part of my (and I'd assume anybody's) schooling. Oh Mr. Evitt and his brewing in pre-Islamist Iran...
OhGodTheRobots 10 months ago
I have always had "issues" with the teaching of Religious education in school to the point that I exercised my rights as a parent to remove my children from the classes (Section 386 of the Education Act). I remain convinced that the teaching of RE is an underhanded indoctrination of children and I will have none of it. you cant "teach" religion to children without teaching them your own (or someone else's) views on "other" world religions (which aren't taught because its all christianity)!
Digideus 10 months ago
By "qualification" they of course mean to have some kind of control over the teachers, to keep the nutbags out.
SeltsamerAttraktor 10 months ago
In my school days 30 years ago, I remember that in general the qualified RE teachers had absolutely no control of the classroom, which wasn't helped by the fact that and none of the students had the slightest interest in learning anything about religion. Still, I found it a very useful class, as our weekly 1/2 hour lesson gave ample opportunity to do my other homework while the teachers tried to control the mayhem.
dave28lax 10 months ago
@dave28lax
Wow - funny you should say that.
I realised during R.E. (5 years after you) that I had forgotten to do my French homework - the French teacher was legendary old-school disciplinarian. Mega-detentions if you didn't do your homework.
The RE teacher was soft - even though I got caught, I knew she wouldn't do anything (although I felt really guilty when she gave me that crest-fallen look [because I was one of her favourite students])
I did my French homework and escaped detention.
jazzx251 10 months ago
@dave28lax This too was what happened in all the schools I worked in. Religious Education was often quickly transformed into 'Put A Vaguely Ethics Based Video On to Keep The Buggers Quiet For Half An Hour'. Thank goodness I was teaching a serious subject!
tenneral 10 months ago
What is wrong with teaching "about religion" with history ? that is where it belongs, along with other outmoded and disproved ideas
Any other religious instruction can be carried out in churches, surely that is what they are for ?
Other than that I really don't see the need to include it in schools and colleges especially those that receive public money
lurkio77 10 months ago
@lurkio77 Calling RE a set of "disproved ideas" is misleading. RE explains the beliefs of a variety of religious groups and what those beliefs mean to indivudual believers. Also to reach the higher levels in the subject, students are expected to give their own views, even if those views are sceptical and negative, to show deeper understanding. Someone who only understands their own religion and no other will have trouble, as will those simply giving an agnostic shrug. Best to be opinionated.
Fatpie42 10 months ago
@Fatpie42 there is no point in studying religion, time to let it die, there are much more important things to sort out.
lurkio77 10 months ago
@lurkio77
Those who do not study religion are doomed to repeat it....
(Don't forget that major issues for religion such as the caste system and the problem of evil are also a major part in RE lessons.)
Fatpie42 9 months ago
@Fatpie42 rubbish - you are giving respect to a fantasy by giving it a place in education.
what would you think of a university course in Barbie World ?? actually that is a bad example because Barbie has at least some basis in the real world
The less people are involved in religion the quicker it will die
lurkio77 9 months ago
Religious studies cannot be properly taught by one that believes any of the myths.
Nhurm 10 months ago
Mr Taylor is unfortunately of a bygone era as is the rigour of teaching and the thirst for learning.
Senkatuka23 10 months ago
I loved geometry, and later algebra. I still do problems sometimes, just to keep up. Hated physics, maybe that's why I have never stopped studying physics (I love challenges), even to this day. It has become very interesting to me.
Glad to hear religious education is getting less. IMO It's place is not in school. Let them teach it in the church.
dewinthemorning 10 months ago
You are extremely entertaining and brilliant.
Venilon 10 months ago
@Venilon VMT!
tenneral 10 months ago
haha, academia. Love it.
sportsportsport 10 months ago
I think it's important to teach religion in schools. By that I mean religion in general and using the opportunity to teach critical thinking at the same time. What qualifications would be required to teach the subject properly? Wouldn't you expect a teacher of English Literature to have done more than read the course text books? A properly qualified teacher would be more likely to have a deep understanding of the literature. Wouldn't that be the same for teachers of Religious Education?
pi3p142 10 months ago
@pi3p142 Exactly. That's how the best schools teach RE.
Fatpie42 10 months ago
make cider with surplus apples?
robthesamplist 10 months ago
@robthesamplist Sounds like too much trouble. Instead the surplus go to the neighbours who reciprocate with their own produce. I think neighbours will be doing a lot more of this as the price of food shifts upwards.
tenneral 10 months ago
Teaching children about religion is highly important. With that I mean that they should know about all major religions. I teach comparative religion in my native Sweden and makes sure that my students knows about the big five. I also teach greek mythology in history and makes sure they know about the norse equivalent. We also discuss what beliefs are and how they differ from facts. An appreciated part since religous students are rare in the swedish classrooms these days.
GeminiPrimeX 10 months ago
@GeminiPrimeX - I once met a swedish creationist, not many of those I daresay!
TheUnillogical 10 months ago
Awesome story.
Hereticbooks 10 months ago
That's annoying, I want to be a religious studies teacher. Philosophy it is then.
TheUnillogical 10 months ago
@TheUnillogical . . . . and without doubt more rewarding too.
tenneral 10 months ago
@tenneral - Religious Studies as an atheist would be a fantastic subject to teach, just due to the discussions you can have, to be perfectly honest I was moving towards philosophy any simply because since taking the damn thing I am incapable of thinking unphilosophically about anything..
TheUnillogical 10 months ago