@schok51 SHUT UP! contaminating the exterior environment? shut up! are you a moron? exterior to what, douche? the laboratory? in order for them to 'contaminate' the 'exterior' environment they would have to be infected with a highly contagious airborne pathogen. supposing this was true, the activists which released these chimps would not have done so because they would have been under quarantine. stuuuuuuupid
@xunknownx101x If they were directly sent out to the wild, they would die. Within the first 24 hours, those chimps would most likely die. By being sent to a bigger cage where they will be treated gently and ready them for the wild, if you had read the translations you would have known that... (:
@xunknownx101x You asked youtubers why a bigger cage is better than a smaller... I responded why that is a silly question, which included their freedom that may happen if they live that long.. :P
@schok51 'Humans' like you are exactly the reason I'm more compassionate towards animals than humans. They ask for nothing, they only harm / kill for survival. Humans, with their so-called superiority complex deem it their right to hurt, insult (your insult I recall), harm, kill and destroy whatever they deem necessary, purely because they can. P.S., AIDS is caused by sexual promiscuity MOST of the time, not always. It crossed from chimps to our species, I wonder how!?!?
@darkangelBDF I reserve the right to insult whoever I want ,and chimps are not little angels made of pure innocence.They kill for the same reasons as us.They are social animals,and therefore have similar social behavior(including those that lead to murder).
@darkangelBDF Also,saying aids is caused by sexual promiscuity is stupid.It is caused by the lack of information of one or both sexual partner toward one being infected with aids.It's not like people just want to have sex that even if they know one of them have AIDS,they just can't help themselves.And sexual transmission is just of the the way AIDS can be transmitted.
@darkangelBDF More compassionate to animals than humans? If they were in our position they'd be doing the same exact thing. Animals are not innocent and pure. Especially primates. It's not a superiority complex, it's a heightened sense of cognitive function and along with that comes all sorts of problems. But there are more good humans out there than bad, more that would help another human being or an animal than not.
@darkangelBDF You have been brainwashed by the negative, because that is the bulk of what we are spoonfed. The negative side of EVERYTHING. Especially our own species.
This video was heartwarming however, and I won't say the smile and hug didn't make me tear up.
My point is more to stop demonizing people who have to test, knowing people who work in that field most HATE it and have anxiety/mental health problems because of what they have to do. It isn't as if it's psychopaths giggling as they inject disease on animals.
Yeah some animal testing is bad, but we don't have the means to test all medications needed on people safely. I'd rather test HIV cures on chimpanzees instead of people first. It's grim but life is dark and grim too, deal with it. Scientists are working on not testing animals, but thousands of chimps < millions of us.
Also please leave the seal hunt out of this, or at least learn to differentiate between the Inuit seal hunt and the commercial seal hunt before you ramble about baby seals dying.
It's not ok to make animals suffer because we feel we are too precious to get ill or die due to something that was our own fucking fault in the first place. If we would let people die and stop killing everything else on the planet, maybe THEN the human race will stand a chance. As it is now, we are doomed. And good riddance.
@stabbings How is HIV(that is what the experiment was on) is caused by humans?Also,kudo for being the worst human on the planet by simply having no compassion toward humans and advocating death of millions.It is funny how people who are against usage of animals in scientific experiments seem to be the worst psychopaths in the whole human race.
@schok51 Diseases are normal and natural. It is how nature deals with overpopulation. Why do you think there are so many diseases among humans? Why can't we deal with it without killing others, making the planet even worse? The spread of HIV is our own fault, but I'm fine with it. Just as I'm fine with anything nature is trying to do to correct the damage we've done. This is how the world works. I'm logical. You are an arrogant fool.
@stabbings Nature isn't some intelligent being making conscious decision.It's just an ensemble of natural phenomenons,following some natural rules.I don't think deceases began to appear when humans population got "too high" whenever that were.I don't know if deceases are more common in humans than any other animal specie,but there's a ton of reason why we are affected by so much of them.Maybe we lost some natural defenses that we once had.
@stabbings The spread of HIV isn't our conscious fault.That's stupid.The spread of that virus is by natural means,as most viruses are.And how does using chimps as test subjects make the world "worst"?And as far as insults go,you are the stupid misanthropic arrogant fool,and you're far from being logical.
@schok51 Spreading diseases is not our fault? We know how diseases are spread. We continue to do the things that spread them. Sometimes on purpose. Diseases do actually occur when populations are too high, and it is true that humans have the most diseases. I'm not giving an opinion like you are with your "arguments", I'm stating factual things. I never said nature was "conscious". I also never said I was more important than every other being on the planet, you did. And that = arrogance.
@stabbings I think humans are mroe important than other lfie forms on the planet because it achieved consciousness,the ultimate evolution of nature's products.Your "decease spreading is our fault" shit is ridiculous.It is our "fault"(and it is ridiculous to talk of it like there was someone to blame) as much as it is to other species(chimps to begin with) who carry these diseases.It is a NATURAL PROCESS.It isn't the "fault" of anybody.There's no way to completely stop the spreading of diseases.
@stabbings Diseases spread more easily in heavily populated area,sure,so what?I don't understand your point.Humans are not "responsible" for the creation of all diseases,nature is.And I mean that in the most technical way.Sure,maybe diseases can be perceived as a way to limit population.Still don't see your point.
@dale3858 What about my channel?My likes you mean?What don'T you like about my channel?I really don't see the matter here.I didn't say I had no compassion for other living beings.I said I had less for them than I do for human beings.I don't see how you could ever perceive that attitude as wrong or dangerous.However,thinking apes or chimps or any other species we know actually are more important than the life of other human beings is I think pretty inhumane.
@schok51 Because you describe yourself as being a nerd, I just figured a nerd is someone who is fairly intelligent and most likely wouldn't say the things you're saying here, like your reply to me after I said that I didn't understand why we do this to animals, you said, "For fun,to satisfy our sadistic needs to make living beings suffer." Apes and ALL animals deserve the same respect to life as we do. Most scientists agree that animal testing is completely not needed now.
@dale3858 I was clearly sarcastic.Because the reason we use animals in experiments is simple:because we need it.I don'T understand why we would still use animals in experiments if it wasn't needed.
@schok51 This is how "important" humans are to the planet...if all the insects were to die, every other living thing would die. If humans were to all die, guess what? all other live would flourish. fact. sorry to break it to you. humans are vermin, actually. the ultimate invader species. yay facts!
@stabbings I never said human were important for the planet(even though we do play roles in the natural system,and I would ask evidences for your "facts"),but so what?Consciousness exist on this planet because we exist.And consciousness is more than anything else nature ever did.And I'm not saying we will ever be the most important specie.If we disappear,maybe some other conscious specie will replace us.
@schok51 It depends on your definition of conscious, but technically any species that can recognise itself in a mirror is conscious (such as elephants, dolphins, chimps etc), as it has awareness of 'self' within surroundings. Also, if consciousness is a human trait then by definition it has come about by nature. Moreover, I think you will find that a great deal of our own behaviour is innate at least to a degree
why do people think that they have the right to do this to animals as amazing as chimps, or any animal for that matter. this is like that recent story of the beagles that were in spain that had only just seen sunlight. they were breed for lab testing and have only just got to see the sun for the first time, and it took 10 minutes for them to finally come out of their cages. this breed of dog is so trusting and friendly and can adapt to living in a cage so well they were used. it's sick.
@schok51 yea....after 30 years!!!.....thats just the thing, these chimps have been treated so badly, locked up in a cage for 30 years, dont you think they have feelings just like us.....maybe you should try it out and tell us how it was for you. No animal should be treated like these chimps were.
@spartacus3977 Chimps may have some kind of basic emotional intelligence,but not near as much as we do.That said,I don't like intelligent animals being treated this way neither,but I guess there were reasons for them not being allowed to be outside.If there were alternatives to animal experimentation,I wouldn't support it,but until these alternatives appear,and this stays the only effective way of discovering solutions to problems such as HIV,I can manage the ethically questionable experiments.
Love this video, I'm actually really scared of chimps, but any animal as intelligent as them that’s made to suffer like these have is cruel, disgusting & inhuman - especially when it never achieved a god damn thing; some people are so unbelievably cruel & apathetic it scary.
@schok51@schok51 They were injected with HIV virus but they failed to develop AID's because there monkeys not humans; they've spent there entire life locked up I first found out about this on the news look it up in a lab.
@55Amethyst HIV is a human virus coming from an apes' virus(the SIV).I guess that is why they injected it to them.Also,I am no scientist and in no position to judge of the usefulness of the experiment,and unless you are a scientist,you cannot neither.Sorry to have assumed you were uninformed.
@MrWafflesMonster Unethical from whom point of view?Yours I guess.If it is useful to save humans' life,chimps are way down the list of things I'll stand up for.Sorry.
@MrWafflesMonster Well I disagree.I think that if some animals need to suffer so humans can avoid it(or simply stay alive),it is worth it.And of course,if there are alternatives,or that it is just unnecessary,then the ethic of it can be discussed.The world isn't fair.If there was a perfect solution to worlds problems causing no suffering whatsoever to anyone/anything sentient,then medical experiments wouldn't be necessary. Unfortunately we do not live in that world.
@schok51 Of course you'd say that. You feel that because you walk on legs, can talk and have an IQ higher than that of a blade of grass, you have the right to torture and kill animals to make you prettier, better. It's creatures like you who make HUMANS like me sick. The human race is arrogant, no doubt. It's about flippen time Mother Nature rectifies this.
@darkangelBDF Ok you're just flipping into religious bullshit.I don't support all animal experiments,but this one,no matter how long it was,had the objective of SAVING HUMAN LIVES.I did not say I had the right to kill or torture animals,and I would despise doing so,but I understand why it is necessary for scientists to involontary do so,sometimes. I value lives of human beings more than chimps,and so I'm am not even human,but a "creature"?Fuck you,psychopathic chimp.
@schok51 Addressing someone as a psychopathic chimp in the cursive makes you manly? I'm the least religious person you'll find. I do however think humans are arrogant to believe they are more important than other creatures (Meaning of Creature: Anything created; anything not self-existent; especially, any being created with life; an animal; a man.) Guess you're not exactly alive which would be the reason for your heartless comment about you being more important than them. Lonely much?
@darkangelBDF First,I don't how manliness have anything to do with my insult(slightly humoristic).I said religious because of your "mother nature" thing.Also,I don't see how it is "arrogant" to consider our own specie,having the highest cognitive and emotional intelligence,to be superior and in some way more important than inferior(in intelligence and capacity to accomplish things) lifeforms.
@darkangelBDF Also,I do not agree with your definition of "creature".Created by who?What do you mean by "self-existent"?Every creatures are certainly not equal in intelligence(cognitive and emotional ability),and whatever else you would consider to judge their equality.It is quite simple for me:I do not feel the same way about chimps that I could feel about humans,because I am human,not chimp.I can have a certain degree of compassion toward sentient species,but not as much as about human beings.
@schok51 Your above comment to me proves you have NO COMPASSION for other sentient beings. You have much to learn...You should look at videos about Koko the Gorilla and all the other great apes that communicate with humans in over 40 year long studies using sign language, you might change your narrow mind...
@dale3858 If there were ways to achieve those experiments without putting in danger lives of animals,I would totally support them,but I don't think there is,and so I see myself forced to accept than pains must be inflicted to some animals so that humans can live.And I'll admit,some experiments might be pushing the ethic a little too far,and there should be some restrictions to animal experiments,but as long as they stay necessary to humankind and individuals(to some extents),I'll accept it.
@schok51 We can grow human tissue now to experiment on, we don't need to do this to animals and very soon it will stop. People will not put up with this much longer, the U.S. is supposedly the only civilized country that is using chimps now.
I also wouldn't expect your type of reply from someone from Canada, but I do see more and more of it coming out of Canada, with the baby seal hunt etc.
@dale3858 Ok,now you're totally making assumption from my nationality.You know,people's opinions doesn't necessarily depend on their nationality.That is quite ridiculous.And if human tissues can replace animals in experiments,I sure will advocate its use,but I don't think it can totally replace animal experiments,anyway not at this time.
@schok51 Canada has some very unique differences on how your country feels + deals with healthcare, war, environment, crime, murder rate etc. I was saying it as a compliment to your country, but as I said I see things that are somewhat surprising and very American like now, so I'm not so shocked anymore when I see comments out of Canada like yours.
Check it out, there are a whole lot of scientists saying that animal testing isn't needed anymore, they're saying that it's all about money now.
@schok51 dude, do you even read your comments before you post them? "I understand why it is necessary for scientists to involontary do so,sometimes." involuntary? what do you mean their actions are involuntary? is someone forcing them to behave in some way? what are you talking about? and, how do you get psychopathic from feeling sympathy for these chimps, that is the antithesis of psychopathy. what YOU are proposing if psychopathic.
@DANIEL108 Sometimes,hurting other life forms,even involuntarily(that's to say,the experiment's goal is not to cause harm or suffering to these animals,but a secondary, undesired effect of it), is necessary to accomplish certain experiments.And the necessity of progress and discoveries(that's how we humans evolve and resolve problems,by testing) is what "forces"(in no literal way,but an indirect one) scientists to do those things to animals,even if they don't necessarily want to.
@DANIEL108 And my use of the word "psychopathic" was more as a provocation than as a statement of fact,denoting the fact that some of you "animal friends" seem completely detached to human struggle,that experiments like those have the goal to end.Also,the comment of some denoted a strong misanthropy and apathy towards the humankind.I am in no way condoning empathy towards those chimps,but I believe standing for human suffering first is more important.
I have to agree with some of those that are bit angered by this.
I'm really curious as to why they were kept from the sunlight for much of their lives. I'm wondering what scientific experiment was worth torturing these primates.
Anyways, this video kind of reminded me of Allegory of the Cave by Plato.
@schok51 yes. because the monkeys cant be like HEY STOP THIS SUCKS or sue them or try to escape humans can protest. monkeys are forced. i know some humans can be too but we do clinical trials on ppl willingly all the time.
@v01d4d3pt that's stupid. tell me, can YOU determine whether chimps show "religious" behavior? For all you know these are just signs of excitement and curiosity.
Sometimes I can't help but being ashamed being human. There are alternatives nowadays for all animal testing. The only reason they keep using animals is to same on some costs or possibly becasue those F@%#cking satanits get some kick out of it.
There are alternatives sometimes for cosmetic testing, but for pharmaceuticals, not so much. Pharmaceutical companies are *required* to go through animal trials before they do tests in humans.
How can anybody put an any living thing 'INSIDE' for 30 years (alot more than rapists and murderers)for just being an animal!!!! It's a disgrace even more so because a very very small % ACTUALLY work on humans....Tell me who are the animals!?!?
@dnttalktomeh Hey ass...i kinda know that shit okay dumb fuck....i guess you didnt know ppl use the word animal to insult others so why dont you stay in school ANIMAL
@vinnie1874 are you dumb....humans beings are ANIMALS fuckhead.....chimps and human dna are very similar so we use them to test some things for our own benefit
I think a basic flaw in whether or not it's "good" to test on these animals is that even though they are similar to humans, their responses to diseases and illnesses are NOT the same as a human response. And if you research some of the testing being done, it's not just cancer. It's kind of obvious stuff like "does smoking cause harm?" Well duh. Let's be smart and ethical about how we use non-human animals in medical testing, including whether or not we are creating knowledge.
you know that these monkeys were used in hiv /aids and hepatitus. Im disappointed that you guys make snide comments about wow players while theres the serious issue of how for research for benefit of us is at the expense of these chimps freedom.
@LoZeno1982 So...what school is your degree in anthropology or primatology from? If you show this footage to 10 anthropologists, you will get 10 anthropologists saying exactly the same thing as I did.
e who say fuck animals, humans aren't the only animal that gets sad when a friend or family member dies. So people who say fuck animals, stop being assholes, and people who say fuck humans stop bitching.
Why is everybody flipping shit? Listen, yea, it's fucked up, but if it wasn't them it would be us, or some other animal. But don't say fuck humans or fuck animals, animals have feelings too. But if they weren't suffering some people would be, and that's messed up too. Next time you say fuck people, think about if that was a 7 year old kid, and they hadn't tested this on anybody, and he is the first one to get a vaccine and slowly dies 5 weeks later, actually, imagine it's your child. Also peopl
@FreddysGirl86 not being rude, but they're doing it for the benefit of us, if they can find the cure through these gracious creatures what's wrong with that? that's how they found the cure for rabies and look where that got us. so keep in mind that they aren't trying to be cruel, and i don't agree with all of their tactics, but they do have us in mind.
@ForeverCrystals450 The world would be glad to see you go. The 'abuse' of these animals is a positive thing overall. Yes, it might be sad to see them being tested on, but you should look past that and be mature enough to see that it's a sacrifice that needs to be made for the benefit of humans. Selfish, right? No more selfish than your desire to see cute little monkeys go unharmed so you can feel all warm and cosy and happy with the world at night. Regardless, medical advances help monkeys too.
@Meanman332 No, they don't help monkeys. They fill them with diseases and such. Have you seen that video that was recorded at a lab where they were testing the monkeys? The scientists were cursing at them and hitting them. It's animal abuse.
@ForeverCrystals450 Overall it still helps monkeys for us to have better medicine. Yes, those specific monkeys may have undergone pain, but in the long run the medical advances will help cure them of diseases as well if needed. Only a small % of monkeys are used in these trials. Imagine if somebody killed Hitler when he was 5 to prevent the holocaust. That would be human abuse, but it would also be beneficial in the long run.
@Meanman332 Why don't they test it on rapists, murders, molester, serial killers? Those innocent chimps deserve to stay in the wild with their family, where they belong. Not in some lab being abused.
@ForeverCrystals450 that's a good point, but i dnt think humans can withstand the injections the way primates can. theyre built the same as us, but not exactly. thats prob why they experiment on them, but the rapist and murderers idea is not a bad idea at all...
@ForeverCrystals450 I don't think so because with monkeys, you can test generations of them, therefore finding the cure faster and you can't do that with humans because scientist and reeg. human have the same life span. and honestly, them hurting a few dozen animals for the cure of diseases for millions of suffering people isn't a bad thing.
and the laws for testing the animals is biased for them not being abused, everything is under the supervision of either the FDA or APA, so they can only
@ForeverCrystals450 How do you know the chimps aren't the equivalent of rapists for chimps? It seems you are calling them 'innocent' for no good reason. The reason we don't test these things on our own species is because it would begin to blur the line between acceptable punishment and torture - something which could lead to the decline of civilization. Evolution is a dog-eat-dog game. If chimps were stronger and more intelligent than us, they'd be doing the same to us.
@Meanman332 Those chimps are not equivalent to rapists. They are innocent chimps who were literally kidnapped from their home in the jungle for no good reason. How would you like it if someone just grabbed you and started putting diseases on you just to see 'what happens'?
@ForeverCrystals450 I was making the point that you don't know the chimps aren't considered evil in their own communities - i.e. they might be the rapists of their pack, so calling them innocent is unsubstantiated. 'no good reason' is obviously false, medicine is a good reason. I would hate it if it happened to me, but that's just how the animal kingdom works. Chimps don't hesitate to kill and eat other animals just because their prey wouldn't like it. It's unrealistic to behave in that way.
@Meanman332 Animal testing is wrong. They still take any chimp they can find whether that chimp is a rapist or not. If they need to test medicine on someone, then why don't they test it on rapists, murders, and killers? Chimps are smart and someday they are going to want revenge for all the abuse and all the crap the human race has given them.
@ForeverCrystals450 Maybe they take any chimp they can find (how do you know?) but why do you jump to the conclusion that they are an 'innocent' chimp. I doubt chimps even have a sense of morality, they just do whatever the hell they like. They wouldn't think twice before testing drugs on us, and that's GOOD. Our species would die off in 3 months if we stopped doing everything which hurt another species. It's impossible to avoid - and counterproductive to avoid.
@Meanman332 say what? What deceases in monkeys have we ever cured? Much animal testing isn't even for deceases but for cosmetics, food chemicals etc. . And with you logic it could be claimed that the experiments Dr Mengele did at Auswitch would also be beneficial in the long run. Just like global warming fearmongerers came out a few months ago and hailed Genghis khan for having killed so many that it helped cool the planet.
Much evil can be done in the name of good but it's still evil.
They should test stuff on humans. Cold blooded, rapists, killers, etc. Not on these innocent beautiful living creatures. Locking them up for 30 years is just sick. It should be illegal. Thank you Michael Aufhauser for saving them <3
@ForeverCrystals450 Exactly their are more desserving people who should get that sorta treatment. Not innocent animals that can't talk or anything to defend themselves. How the fuck could you look into these beautiful animals eyes, inject them with diseases, treat them the way they do and then go home to there wives/husbands then go to bed and sleep at night. It's a discrace to see the state this world is in.
LET EM FREE!!! FREEDOM ISN'T FREE
TheGbusey1535 1 week ago
何の罪も無い人間を30年間拘束した動画に見えました
nnjyamin 1 week ago
Is this the ny Knicks coming out of lockeroom
skyroe2 1 week ago
@skyroe2 are you a fucking faggot?
bpham10 5 days ago
a hug at 0:07, and we aren't related?
NightBenderTV 3 weeks ago 4
Check out my cute Chimpanzee video on my channel.
TheFamilyguy421 4 weeks ago
which one is cesar?
cprfilmz 1 month ago
But... why were they deprived of sunlight in the first place?
dylnvcufilm 1 month ago
@dylnvcufilm I guess to avoid the danger of contaminating the exterior environment.
schok51 4 weeks ago
@schok51 SHUT UP! contaminating the exterior environment? shut up! are you a moron? exterior to what, douche? the laboratory? in order for them to 'contaminate' the 'exterior' environment they would have to be infected with a highly contagious airborne pathogen. supposing this was true, the activists which released these chimps would not have done so because they would have been under quarantine. stuuuuuuupid
DANIEL108 6 days ago
Humans are the worst animals in the world...
ataalps 1 month ago 5
@ataalps yes they are....makes me fucking sick
BehindTheLight99 1 month ago
name of song?
psulionz87 1 month ago
@psulionz87
Babybird - If you'll be mine ;)
SySM4St3r 1 month ago
Small cage to a bigger cage. How is this better?
xunknownx101x 1 month ago
@xunknownx101x If they were directly sent out to the wild, they would die. Within the first 24 hours, those chimps would most likely die. By being sent to a bigger cage where they will be treated gently and ready them for the wild, if you had read the translations you would have known that... (:
CresentMoonEnergy 1 month ago
@CresentMoonEnergy Never said anything about them being freed if you would of read what I said, you should of known that... (:
xunknownx101x 1 month ago
@xunknownx101x You asked youtubers why a bigger cage is better than a smaller... I responded why that is a silly question, which included their freedom that may happen if they live that long.. :P
CresentMoonEnergy 1 month ago
@CresentMoonEnergy It was a rhetorical question in the first place. They may live long but not in their natural environment where they should belong.
xunknownx101x 1 month ago
who came from the 50 greatest viral videos 2011 video?
Gracelyassa 1 month ago 147
@Gracelyassa Me, had to see this one! :)
Shaitan111 1 month ago
@Gracelyassa I came from that video too haha
AnimatorRm 1 month ago
@Gracelyassa This guy
HoseaStarcraft 1 month ago
@Gracelyassa ME! StumbleUpon FTW.
genrenato 1 month ago
@Gracelyassa Me!
cyndiseidler 1 month ago
I give up on the human race when i see shit like this..
VeeelzHD 2 months ago 4
0:21 the chimp on the left has a BONER
pLUSpISTOL 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@pLUSpISTOL He has a boner because he was all up on the other in front of him.
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GovernmentHo0ker 2 months ago 11
@schok51 'Humans' like you are exactly the reason I'm more compassionate towards animals than humans. They ask for nothing, they only harm / kill for survival. Humans, with their so-called superiority complex deem it their right to hurt, insult (your insult I recall), harm, kill and destroy whatever they deem necessary, purely because they can. P.S., AIDS is caused by sexual promiscuity MOST of the time, not always. It crossed from chimps to our species, I wonder how!?!?
darkangelBDF 2 months ago
@darkangelBDF I reserve the right to insult whoever I want ,and chimps are not little angels made of pure innocence.They kill for the same reasons as us.They are social animals,and therefore have similar social behavior(including those that lead to murder).
schok51 2 months ago
@darkangelBDF Also,saying aids is caused by sexual promiscuity is stupid.It is caused by the lack of information of one or both sexual partner toward one being infected with aids.It's not like people just want to have sex that even if they know one of them have AIDS,they just can't help themselves.And sexual transmission is just of the the way AIDS can be transmitted.
schok51 2 months ago
@darkangelBDF More compassionate to animals than humans? If they were in our position they'd be doing the same exact thing. Animals are not innocent and pure. Especially primates. It's not a superiority complex, it's a heightened sense of cognitive function and along with that comes all sorts of problems. But there are more good humans out there than bad, more that would help another human being or an animal than not.
jreed136 1 month ago
@darkangelBDF You have been brainwashed by the negative, because that is the bulk of what we are spoonfed. The negative side of EVERYTHING. Especially our own species.
jreed136 1 month ago
This video was heartwarming however, and I won't say the smile and hug didn't make me tear up.
My point is more to stop demonizing people who have to test, knowing people who work in that field most HATE it and have anxiety/mental health problems because of what they have to do. It isn't as if it's psychopaths giggling as they inject disease on animals.
last0light 2 months ago
Yeah some animal testing is bad, but we don't have the means to test all medications needed on people safely. I'd rather test HIV cures on chimpanzees instead of people first. It's grim but life is dark and grim too, deal with it. Scientists are working on not testing animals, but thousands of chimps < millions of us.
Also please leave the seal hunt out of this, or at least learn to differentiate between the Inuit seal hunt and the commercial seal hunt before you ramble about baby seals dying.
last0light 2 months ago
lol, this was me 2 weeks after skyrim came out
IceDawg101 2 months ago 99
@IceDawg101 hahahahaha that comment made me laugh so much, brilliant comment
badboytobs 1 month ago
why does it seem like this video is trying to forget about the fact that they were lock up for 30 years.
vann200 2 months ago
@vann200 These animals are taken on regular walks and are taken care of very well. This video is complete bullshit. These animals are treated well.
Doug44393 2 months ago
@Doug44393 Shut the fuck up you stupid piece of shit. You have no idea what you're talking about.
BXAssasinatorXS 1 month ago
@BXAssasinatorXS Actually I do. Maybe you should do your research.
Doug44393 1 month ago
@vann200 Because it's not a documentary about the suffering of those animals,which is unknown,but about the fact that they are now free.
schok51 2 months ago
The way he turned around and hugged the other one with that MASSIVE smile on his face.
Emotional.
jackitpotato 2 months ago 3
It's not ok to make animals suffer because we feel we are too precious to get ill or die due to something that was our own fucking fault in the first place. If we would let people die and stop killing everything else on the planet, maybe THEN the human race will stand a chance. As it is now, we are doomed. And good riddance.
stabbings 2 months ago
@stabbings How is HIV(that is what the experiment was on) is caused by humans?Also,kudo for being the worst human on the planet by simply having no compassion toward humans and advocating death of millions.It is funny how people who are against usage of animals in scientific experiments seem to be the worst psychopaths in the whole human race.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 Diseases are normal and natural. It is how nature deals with overpopulation. Why do you think there are so many diseases among humans? Why can't we deal with it without killing others, making the planet even worse? The spread of HIV is our own fault, but I'm fine with it. Just as I'm fine with anything nature is trying to do to correct the damage we've done. This is how the world works. I'm logical. You are an arrogant fool.
stabbings 1 month ago
@stabbings Nature isn't some intelligent being making conscious decision.It's just an ensemble of natural phenomenons,following some natural rules.I don't think deceases began to appear when humans population got "too high" whenever that were.I don't know if deceases are more common in humans than any other animal specie,but there's a ton of reason why we are affected by so much of them.Maybe we lost some natural defenses that we once had.
schok51 1 month ago
@stabbings The spread of HIV isn't our conscious fault.That's stupid.The spread of that virus is by natural means,as most viruses are.And how does using chimps as test subjects make the world "worst"?And as far as insults go,you are the stupid misanthropic arrogant fool,and you're far from being logical.
schok51 1 month ago
@schok51 Spreading diseases is not our fault? We know how diseases are spread. We continue to do the things that spread them. Sometimes on purpose. Diseases do actually occur when populations are too high, and it is true that humans have the most diseases. I'm not giving an opinion like you are with your "arguments", I'm stating factual things. I never said nature was "conscious". I also never said I was more important than every other being on the planet, you did. And that = arrogance.
stabbings 4 weeks ago
@stabbings I think humans are mroe important than other lfie forms on the planet because it achieved consciousness,the ultimate evolution of nature's products.Your "decease spreading is our fault" shit is ridiculous.It is our "fault"(and it is ridiculous to talk of it like there was someone to blame) as much as it is to other species(chimps to begin with) who carry these diseases.It is a NATURAL PROCESS.It isn't the "fault" of anybody.There's no way to completely stop the spreading of diseases.
schok51 4 weeks ago
@stabbings Diseases spread more easily in heavily populated area,sure,so what?I don't understand your point.Humans are not "responsible" for the creation of all diseases,nature is.And I mean that in the most technical way.Sure,maybe diseases can be perceived as a way to limit population.Still don't see your point.
schok51 4 weeks ago
I don't understand why do we do this to animals...
dale3858 2 months ago
@dale3858 For fun,to satisfy our sadistic needs to make living beings suffer.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 I'm surprised by your comments after looking at your channel...You're sick, you should see a shrink before you hurt someone...
dale3858 2 months ago
@dale3858 What about my channel?My likes you mean?What don'T you like about my channel?I really don't see the matter here.I didn't say I had no compassion for other living beings.I said I had less for them than I do for human beings.I don't see how you could ever perceive that attitude as wrong or dangerous.However,thinking apes or chimps or any other species we know actually are more important than the life of other human beings is I think pretty inhumane.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 Because you describe yourself as being a nerd, I just figured a nerd is someone who is fairly intelligent and most likely wouldn't say the things you're saying here, like your reply to me after I said that I didn't understand why we do this to animals, you said, "For fun,to satisfy our sadistic needs to make living beings suffer." Apes and ALL animals deserve the same respect to life as we do. Most scientists agree that animal testing is completely not needed now.
dale3858 2 months ago
@dale3858 I was clearly sarcastic.Because the reason we use animals in experiments is simple:because we need it.I don'T understand why we would still use animals in experiments if it wasn't needed.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 Not a very good topic to be sarcastic about...
dale3858 2 months ago
@schok51 This is how "important" humans are to the planet...if all the insects were to die, every other living thing would die. If humans were to all die, guess what? all other live would flourish. fact. sorry to break it to you. humans are vermin, actually. the ultimate invader species. yay facts!
stabbings 4 weeks ago
@stabbings live=life. oops.
stabbings 4 weeks ago
@stabbings I never said human were important for the planet(even though we do play roles in the natural system,and I would ask evidences for your "facts"),but so what?Consciousness exist on this planet because we exist.And consciousness is more than anything else nature ever did.And I'm not saying we will ever be the most important specie.If we disappear,maybe some other conscious specie will replace us.
schok51 4 weeks ago
@schok51 It depends on your definition of conscious, but technically any species that can recognise itself in a mirror is conscious (such as elephants, dolphins, chimps etc), as it has awareness of 'self' within surroundings. Also, if consciousness is a human trait then by definition it has come about by nature. Moreover, I think you will find that a great deal of our own behaviour is innate at least to a degree
TheWp1991 3 weeks ago
@stabbings But for now and as far as we know,we're the only ones able to argue on our importance ,and I don't wish any end to that.
schok51 4 weeks ago
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dale3858 2 months ago
why do people think that they have the right to do this to animals as amazing as chimps, or any animal for that matter. this is like that recent story of the beagles that were in spain that had only just seen sunlight. they were breed for lab testing and have only just got to see the sun for the first time, and it took 10 minutes for them to finally come out of their cages. this breed of dog is so trusting and friendly and can adapt to living in a cage so well they were used. it's sick.
heyysimone 2 months ago
aw poor chimps :( Motherfukers -_-
sunita611 2 months ago
i think its incredible, but i hope the bastards that put them in the lab were arrested, its nice to see them smiling and hugging though :)
nmay2011 3 months ago
@nmay2011 They didn't break any laws as far as I know.
schok51 3 months ago
why use this kind of music on a horrible story like this
spartacus3977 3 months ago
@spartacus3977 It's not horrible.Chimps are released from captivity.How is that horrible.
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@schok51 yea....after 30 years!!!.....thats just the thing, these chimps have been treated so badly, locked up in a cage for 30 years, dont you think they have feelings just like us.....maybe you should try it out and tell us how it was for you. No animal should be treated like these chimps were.
spartacus3977 3 months ago
@spartacus3977 Chimps may have some kind of basic emotional intelligence,but not near as much as we do.That said,I don't like intelligent animals being treated this way neither,but I guess there were reasons for them not being allowed to be outside.If there were alternatives to animal experimentation,I wouldn't support it,but until these alternatives appear,and this stays the only effective way of discovering solutions to problems such as HIV,I can manage the ethically questionable experiments.
schok51 3 months ago
@spartacus3977 that music only started when they came out and were happy...
nmay2011 3 months ago
Love this video, I'm actually really scared of chimps, but any animal as intelligent as them that’s made to suffer like these have is cruel, disgusting & inhuman - especially when it never achieved a god damn thing; some people are so unbelievably cruel & apathetic it scary.
55Amethyst 3 months ago
@55Amethyst How do you know nothing was achieved.You don't even know what the chimps were used for.
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@schok51 @schok51 They were injected with HIV virus but they failed to develop AID's because there monkeys not humans; they've spent there entire life locked up I first found out about this on the news look it up in a lab.
I know exactly what I'm talking about sorry!
55Amethyst 3 months ago
@55Amethyst HIV is a human virus coming from an apes' virus(the SIV).I guess that is why they injected it to them.Also,I am no scientist and in no position to judge of the usefulness of the experiment,and unless you are a scientist,you cannot neither.Sorry to have assumed you were uninformed.
schok51 3 months ago
@schok51 It's a dangerous thing to say things are possibly "useful" when they are blatantly unethical.
MrWafflesMonster 3 months ago
@MrWafflesMonster Unethical from whom point of view?Yours I guess.If it is useful to save humans' life,chimps are way down the list of things I'll stand up for.Sorry.
schok51 3 months ago
@schok51 Yes, from my point of view. Just as you think it is ethical from your point of view.
I don't think the ends justify the means.
Even if medical experiments 'save humans' life', I don't think that we have justification to cause suffering.
MrWafflesMonster 3 months ago
@MrWafflesMonster Well I disagree.I think that if some animals need to suffer so humans can avoid it(or simply stay alive),it is worth it.And of course,if there are alternatives,or that it is just unnecessary,then the ethic of it can be discussed.The world isn't fair.If there was a perfect solution to worlds problems causing no suffering whatsoever to anyone/anything sentient,then medical experiments wouldn't be necessary. Unfortunately we do not live in that world.
schok51 3 months ago
@schok51 Of course you'd say that. You feel that because you walk on legs, can talk and have an IQ higher than that of a blade of grass, you have the right to torture and kill animals to make you prettier, better. It's creatures like you who make HUMANS like me sick. The human race is arrogant, no doubt. It's about flippen time Mother Nature rectifies this.
darkangelBDF 2 months ago
@darkangelBDF Ok you're just flipping into religious bullshit.I don't support all animal experiments,but this one,no matter how long it was,had the objective of SAVING HUMAN LIVES.I did not say I had the right to kill or torture animals,and I would despise doing so,but I understand why it is necessary for scientists to involontary do so,sometimes. I value lives of human beings more than chimps,and so I'm am not even human,but a "creature"?Fuck you,psychopathic chimp.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 Addressing someone as a psychopathic chimp in the cursive makes you manly? I'm the least religious person you'll find. I do however think humans are arrogant to believe they are more important than other creatures (Meaning of Creature: Anything created; anything not self-existent; especially, any being created with life; an animal; a man.) Guess you're not exactly alive which would be the reason for your heartless comment about you being more important than them. Lonely much?
darkangelBDF 2 months ago
@darkangelBDF First,I don't how manliness have anything to do with my insult(slightly humoristic).I said religious because of your "mother nature" thing.Also,I don't see how it is "arrogant" to consider our own specie,having the highest cognitive and emotional intelligence,to be superior and in some way more important than inferior(in intelligence and capacity to accomplish things) lifeforms.
schok51 2 months ago
@darkangelBDF Also,I do not agree with your definition of "creature".Created by who?What do you mean by "self-existent"?Every creatures are certainly not equal in intelligence(cognitive and emotional ability),and whatever else you would consider to judge their equality.It is quite simple for me:I do not feel the same way about chimps that I could feel about humans,because I am human,not chimp.I can have a certain degree of compassion toward sentient species,but not as much as about human beings.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 Your above comment to me proves you have NO COMPASSION for other sentient beings. You have much to learn...You should look at videos about Koko the Gorilla and all the other great apes that communicate with humans in over 40 year long studies using sign language, you might change your narrow mind...
dale3858 2 months ago
@dale3858 If there were ways to achieve those experiments without putting in danger lives of animals,I would totally support them,but I don't think there is,and so I see myself forced to accept than pains must be inflicted to some animals so that humans can live.And I'll admit,some experiments might be pushing the ethic a little too far,and there should be some restrictions to animal experiments,but as long as they stay necessary to humankind and individuals(to some extents),I'll accept it.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 We can grow human tissue now to experiment on, we don't need to do this to animals and very soon it will stop. People will not put up with this much longer, the U.S. is supposedly the only civilized country that is using chimps now.
I also wouldn't expect your type of reply from someone from Canada, but I do see more and more of it coming out of Canada, with the baby seal hunt etc.
dale3858 2 months ago
@dale3858 Ok,now you're totally making assumption from my nationality.You know,people's opinions doesn't necessarily depend on their nationality.That is quite ridiculous.And if human tissues can replace animals in experiments,I sure will advocate its use,but I don't think it can totally replace animal experiments,anyway not at this time.
schok51 2 months ago
@schok51 Canada has some very unique differences on how your country feels + deals with healthcare, war, environment, crime, murder rate etc. I was saying it as a compliment to your country, but as I said I see things that are somewhat surprising and very American like now, so I'm not so shocked anymore when I see comments out of Canada like yours.
Check it out, there are a whole lot of scientists saying that animal testing isn't needed anymore, they're saying that it's all about money now.
dale3858 2 months ago
@schok51 dude, do you even read your comments before you post them? "I understand why it is necessary for scientists to involontary do so,sometimes." involuntary? what do you mean their actions are involuntary? is someone forcing them to behave in some way? what are you talking about? and, how do you get psychopathic from feeling sympathy for these chimps, that is the antithesis of psychopathy. what YOU are proposing if psychopathic.
DANIEL108 6 days ago
@DANIEL108 Sometimes,hurting other life forms,even involuntarily(that's to say,the experiment's goal is not to cause harm or suffering to these animals,but a secondary, undesired effect of it), is necessary to accomplish certain experiments.And the necessity of progress and discoveries(that's how we humans evolve and resolve problems,by testing) is what "forces"(in no literal way,but an indirect one) scientists to do those things to animals,even if they don't necessarily want to.
schok51 5 days ago
@DANIEL108 And my use of the word "psychopathic" was more as a provocation than as a statement of fact,denoting the fact that some of you "animal friends" seem completely detached to human struggle,that experiments like those have the goal to end.Also,the comment of some denoted a strong misanthropy and apathy towards the humankind.I am in no way condoning empathy towards those chimps,but I believe standing for human suffering first is more important.
schok51 5 days ago
@schok51 Sorry, misused the word "condone" here .I meant "reprove".
schok51 5 days ago
Those poor monkies. Animal testing is horrible :( At least they seem happy to see sunlight for the first time
keemba98 4 months ago
Gosh. The stupidity in the comments is apparent.
I have to agree with some of those that are bit angered by this.
I'm really curious as to why they were kept from the sunlight for much of their lives. I'm wondering what scientific experiment was worth torturing these primates.
Anyways, this video kind of reminded me of Allegory of the Cave by Plato.
ParadoxAnonymous 4 months ago
I'm disappointed in all of you
Trendkillertrendy 4 months ago
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iLoveYoutuveVideos 4 months ago
Test on high profile criminals instead.
nathan0dts 4 months ago
This video is oxymoronic.. So positive, but all I can think about is killing... You put the pieces together
OutFlowProductions 4 months ago
i would rather them do it to humans. those poor monkeys have no way to disagree with what they are doing they have no choice :(
floppythudpucker 5 months ago
@floppythudpucker i completely agree. its disgusting how people find this amazing.
KillThemAll113 4 months ago
@floppythudpucker Wow.That is some pretty misanthropic statement.You're saying you value chimps over humans?That is just mind-blowingly stupid.
schok51 3 months ago
@schok51 yes. because the monkeys cant be like HEY STOP THIS SUCKS or sue them or try to escape humans can protest. monkeys are forced. i know some humans can be too but we do clinical trials on ppl willingly all the time.
floppythudpucker 2 months ago
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rise of the planet of the apes
mnbshah 5 months ago
Haha, he got a boner the first time he went out in public.
aaabbbeee 5 months ago
This is why psychologists want to study religious behavior in chimpanzees. because they exhibit it.
v01d4d3pt 5 months ago
@v01d4d3pt that's stupid. tell me, can YOU determine whether chimps show "religious" behavior? For all you know these are just signs of excitement and curiosity.
MinuteOrMinute 4 months ago
thats fucked up 30 years inside fuck you
IIIReMiiXIII 5 months ago 27
@IIIReMiiXIII What's fucked up is that they were injected with HIV.
StackCityEntOfficial 3 months ago
We should be testing death row inmates, not monkeys.
AvatarOfAvatar 5 months ago 2
Sometimes I can't help but being ashamed being human. There are alternatives nowadays for all animal testing. The only reason they keep using animals is to same on some costs or possibly becasue those F@%#cking satanits get some kick out of it.
PeaknikMicki 5 months ago
@PeaknikMicki
There are alternatives sometimes for cosmetic testing, but for pharmaceuticals, not so much. Pharmaceutical companies are *required* to go through animal trials before they do tests in humans.
bhartman36 4 months ago
Aww God Bless Them! <3
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SuperDroidx 5 months ago
fcking humans!
EXtencfull 5 months ago 2
bunu daha önce köroğlunun babası denemişti at üzerinde.intihal yapmışlar
MrDrneshter 5 months ago
I'm crying, that's so cute *__*
TokioLea 5 months ago
they dont look healthy
oqendro 5 months ago
How can anybody put an any living thing 'INSIDE' for 30 years (alot more than rapists and murderers)for just being an animal!!!! It's a disgrace even more so because a very very small % ACTUALLY work on humans....Tell me who are the animals!?!?
vinnie1874 5 months ago 5
@vinnie1874 THem thats why we are controlling them like that and shit you fucking nazi
emilythe11 5 months ago
@emilythe11 You are sharp as a river rock and lower than a snake. Thirty years in darkness for you, biatch.
schifferbrainz 4 months ago
@schifferbrainz I think you misunderstood my comment you fucking faggot Adolf hitler had the right idea with retards like you
emilythe11 4 months ago
@schifferbrainz i think you misunderstood my comment ass hat he called them animals but i thnk wer animals because we are controlling them you fuck
emilythe11 4 months ago
@emilythe11 We are all animals dumbass......calling someone an animal isnt degrading, its what they are.....stay in school dummy
dnttalktomeh 4 months ago
@dnttalktomeh Hey ass...i kinda know that shit okay dumb fuck....i guess you didnt know ppl use the word animal to insult others so why dont you stay in school ANIMAL
emilythe11 4 months ago
@vinnie1874 are you dumb....humans beings are ANIMALS fuckhead.....chimps and human dna are very similar so we use them to test some things for our own benefit
dnttalktomeh 4 months ago
RISE OF THE PLANETS OF THE APES (Directors Cut)
LankzLDN 5 months ago
I think a basic flaw in whether or not it's "good" to test on these animals is that even though they are similar to humans, their responses to diseases and illnesses are NOT the same as a human response. And if you research some of the testing being done, it's not just cancer. It's kind of obvious stuff like "does smoking cause harm?" Well duh. Let's be smart and ethical about how we use non-human animals in medical testing, including whether or not we are creating knowledge.
KarenT1024 5 months ago
What the fuck have you people been doing to them...!?
.. they look like they just survived a tornado attack...!
Athrun000 5 months ago
@Athrun000 injecting them with HIV.
Slaughtering their mothers, keeping them in cages for 35 years.
Apes feel the same emotions as us.
imalwayswatchingu00 5 months ago 3
you know that these monkeys were used in hiv /aids and hepatitus. Im disappointed that you guys make snide comments about wow players while theres the serious issue of how for research for benefit of us is at the expense of these chimps freedom.
ndrwplussine 5 months ago 2
@LoZeno1982 So...what school is your degree in anthropology or primatology from? If you show this footage to 10 anthropologists, you will get 10 anthropologists saying exactly the same thing as I did.
entropy156 5 months ago
@entropy156 It's easy to say "if you show this to some experts, they'll agree with me" without showing said experts.
You tell me first what's YOUR degree in anthropology, and I'll show you what's my degree in Ethology.
LoZeno1982 5 months ago
e who say fuck animals, humans aren't the only animal that gets sad when a friend or family member dies. So people who say fuck animals, stop being assholes, and people who say fuck humans stop bitching.
tricrazy3 5 months ago
Why is everybody flipping shit? Listen, yea, it's fucked up, but if it wasn't them it would be us, or some other animal. But don't say fuck humans or fuck animals, animals have feelings too. But if they weren't suffering some people would be, and that's messed up too. Next time you say fuck people, think about if that was a 7 year old kid, and they hadn't tested this on anybody, and he is the first one to get a vaccine and slowly dies 5 weeks later, actually, imagine it's your child. Also peopl
tricrazy3 5 months ago
Usually test animals are euthanized. Curious that they are going to be set free.
TheEctobiologist 5 months ago
@gtjet1 you sound so fucking stupid you are the simple minded one, you are an animal just a different species
DannyDanko9 5 months ago
Monkeys are rather entertaining to watch .
extrofactor 5 months ago
@FreddysGirl86 not being rude, but they're doing it for the benefit of us, if they can find the cure through these gracious creatures what's wrong with that? that's how they found the cure for rabies and look where that got us. so keep in mind that they aren't trying to be cruel, and i don't agree with all of their tactics, but they do have us in mind.
Briyana777 5 months ago
I hate being human we are the cruelest Animal species on this planet! and to torture our closest cousins fuck you humans fuck you.
JordoF6 5 months ago 3
@Meanman332 I would rather die of cancer, than to watch these poor beautiful creatures get abused.
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 The world would be glad to see you go. The 'abuse' of these animals is a positive thing overall. Yes, it might be sad to see them being tested on, but you should look past that and be mature enough to see that it's a sacrifice that needs to be made for the benefit of humans. Selfish, right? No more selfish than your desire to see cute little monkeys go unharmed so you can feel all warm and cosy and happy with the world at night. Regardless, medical advances help monkeys too.
Meanman332 5 months ago
@Meanman332 No, they don't help monkeys. They fill them with diseases and such. Have you seen that video that was recorded at a lab where they were testing the monkeys? The scientists were cursing at them and hitting them. It's animal abuse.
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 Overall it still helps monkeys for us to have better medicine. Yes, those specific monkeys may have undergone pain, but in the long run the medical advances will help cure them of diseases as well if needed. Only a small % of monkeys are used in these trials. Imagine if somebody killed Hitler when he was 5 to prevent the holocaust. That would be human abuse, but it would also be beneficial in the long run.
Meanman332 5 months ago
@Meanman332 Why don't they test it on rapists, murders, molester, serial killers? Those innocent chimps deserve to stay in the wild with their family, where they belong. Not in some lab being abused.
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 that's a good point, but i dnt think humans can withstand the injections the way primates can. theyre built the same as us, but not exactly. thats prob why they experiment on them, but the rapist and murderers idea is not a bad idea at all...
Briyana777 5 months ago
@Briyana777 But, they're testing medicines and cures for humans. Shouldn't they test it on a human?
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 I don't think so because with monkeys, you can test generations of them, therefore finding the cure faster and you can't do that with humans because scientist and reeg. human have the same life span. and honestly, them hurting a few dozen animals for the cure of diseases for millions of suffering people isn't a bad thing.
and the laws for testing the animals is biased for them not being abused, everything is under the supervision of either the FDA or APA, so they can only
Briyana777 5 months ago
@Briyana777 of course it's a bad thing. it's just a bad thing that benefits you and I.
sxipshirey 5 months ago
@Briyana777 You're just evil. Admit it.
schifferbrainz 4 months ago
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Briyana777 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 How do you know the chimps aren't the equivalent of rapists for chimps? It seems you are calling them 'innocent' for no good reason. The reason we don't test these things on our own species is because it would begin to blur the line between acceptable punishment and torture - something which could lead to the decline of civilization. Evolution is a dog-eat-dog game. If chimps were stronger and more intelligent than us, they'd be doing the same to us.
Meanman332 5 months ago
@Meanman332 Those chimps are not equivalent to rapists. They are innocent chimps who were literally kidnapped from their home in the jungle for no good reason. How would you like it if someone just grabbed you and started putting diseases on you just to see 'what happens'?
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 I was making the point that you don't know the chimps aren't considered evil in their own communities - i.e. they might be the rapists of their pack, so calling them innocent is unsubstantiated. 'no good reason' is obviously false, medicine is a good reason. I would hate it if it happened to me, but that's just how the animal kingdom works. Chimps don't hesitate to kill and eat other animals just because their prey wouldn't like it. It's unrealistic to behave in that way.
Meanman332 5 months ago
@Meanman332 Animal testing is wrong. They still take any chimp they can find whether that chimp is a rapist or not. If they need to test medicine on someone, then why don't they test it on rapists, murders, and killers? Chimps are smart and someday they are going to want revenge for all the abuse and all the crap the human race has given them.
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 Maybe they take any chimp they can find (how do you know?) but why do you jump to the conclusion that they are an 'innocent' chimp. I doubt chimps even have a sense of morality, they just do whatever the hell they like. They wouldn't think twice before testing drugs on us, and that's GOOD. Our species would die off in 3 months if we stopped doing everything which hurt another species. It's impossible to avoid - and counterproductive to avoid.
Meanman332 5 months ago
@Meanman332 Look. You think what you want, I think what I want. We're done.
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago
@ForeverCrystals450 go but so far with them. And no disrespect but those are real facts; i just dont want to be spreading false info
Briyana777 5 months ago
@Meanman332 say what? What deceases in monkeys have we ever cured? Much animal testing isn't even for deceases but for cosmetics, food chemicals etc. . And with you logic it could be claimed that the experiments Dr Mengele did at Auswitch would also be beneficial in the long run. Just like global warming fearmongerers came out a few months ago and hailed Genghis khan for having killed so many that it helped cool the planet.
Much evil can be done in the name of good but it's still evil.
PeaknikMicki 4 months ago
They should test stuff on humans. Cold blooded, rapists, killers, etc. Not on these innocent beautiful living creatures. Locking them up for 30 years is just sick. It should be illegal. Thank you Michael Aufhauser for saving them <3
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago 2
@ForeverCrystals450 Exactly their are more desserving people who should get that sorta treatment. Not innocent animals that can't talk or anything to defend themselves. How the fuck could you look into these beautiful animals eyes, inject them with diseases, treat them the way they do and then go home to there wives/husbands then go to bed and sleep at night. It's a discrace to see the state this world is in.
DaniAussiePride 5 months ago
@DaniAussiePride Exactly. It's just fucking sick.
ForeverCrystals450 5 months ago