I know those horrible born again Christians. Nothing like those humanist athiests that are so "cuddly" like Stalin; Mao; Pol Pot. Hitler was a confused Catholic evolutionist who hated Jews-I guess he wasn't actually an athiest-but he was ALL into the evolution myth. Could magnetic 66 point out the brutal Baptist; Mennonite; Amish killers or dictators that killed their multiplied millions? That "cuddly" athiest crowd ain't fooling around when it comes to kiling people!
If christianity were only to be a nice cuddly faith, then not too many thinking atheists would give a shit as to christians being required to provide proof of biblical God-Jesus. However, when you come at us, insisting that we shall be consigned to eternal torment and death unless we believe; and also insist upon forcibly imposing religious instruction upon OUR children in schools in addition to YOUR children, then we atheists farking are quite within our rights: SHOW PROOF OR FARKOFF!
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
Ahh, so this is why we must all believe . . .
CHRISTIANS MUST PROVE THIS AS TRUTH! THERE IS NO BURDEN OF PROOF UPON THE ATHEIST IN THIS MATTER! IF A CHRISTIAN WISHES THAT ALL SHOULD SIGN A SPIRITUAL COVENANT WITH JESUS, THAT IN EFFECT ENDORSES MOST OF HIS BRETHREN AS ONLY SHIT WORTH BURNING, THEN THE BLOODY CHRISTIANS MUST, REPEAT MUST, PROVIDE THE PROOF. THERE IS NO ONUS ON US TO DO SO!
Have you ever noticed the inherent superstitious and over-ritualised nature of orthodox Jews? It's no secret you know ~ all one has to do is to observe. The pig of course is unclean to the Jew, and that is why when swine flu threatened to sweep the world, not just one influential rabbi of Israel, but at least a dozen, all got into an aeroplane, flew as high as they could, and grabbed the onboard phones to begin screaming to god to spare Israel from swine flu. These are the people of "The Book".
If I were to be called upon to write a truthful GOSPEL/TESTIMONY as to the events surrounding a certain person of importance, do you honestly think that I should be inclined to then "appropriate" much of this testimony from the accounts of others? Why then, do the gospels of especially Matthew, Mark & Luke repeatedly cut and paste in obvious plaguarisms, but in those areas of substantial individuality of account, hardly ever concur?
If god consigned all men to die, then why is it that thousands, perhaps millions of people have reported spiritual out of body experiences, which would suggest that we have an eternal spirit. This can not be naysayed as there are many biblical accounts of biblical men being "in spirit". So, what was the actual nature of the imposed death which did NOT exist prior to the fall? Injurious accidents could never of occurred in Eden, and lions could eat lambs without bringing death.
God forbade eating of the fruit of knowledge, yet the tree of life was not off limits in Eden. If the first duo had of eaten first of the tree of life, and then of the tree of knowledge ~ what then? The tree of life must surely represent eternal life; yet Adam & Eve already had eternal life, with god consigning them to undergo death (and separation from god) after the fall. If all men were separated from god, how come subsequent biblical characters walked, talked with god, visited heaven.
Posers: why is it that the coming Antichrist is purported to not wish for the "company" of women; and why is it that Lucifer is described as being of the most admirable countenance; and that Jesus also did not wish for the "company" of women, and is also purported to be of admirable countenance? Why would god bequeath man an excellent brain but admonish knowledge? Why does the bible warn against "falling away" with increased knowledge in end times ~ is this a fear that science uncovers bullshit?
Yep, gotta have the FOCUS on Jesus ~ he's the man ~ he's the one ~ he's the bloke who is the god; the one who is to come to earth to destroy all of mankind which do not sign the spiritual covenant that endorses 90% of their brothers as worth less than shit; the one who is to come to destroy the earth.
Satan sort of gets to be redundant!
Jesus will destroy Earth & man ~ who needs Satan to pretend to be god, and be the destroyer?
King James Version (KJV) 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jesus was quite different...Jesus is the Messiah...The person of Jesus is critical, a fulfillment of prophecy..the Christ the Son of God..the person of Jesus the seeker of our souls, the first born of the dead, the scorned
There are many examples of man style half gods being born of a virgin or women impreganted by a God. They never have human sex, the virgina is a one way street to godly births.
There are too many versions of the story to mention, but here are a few and they are always men, Hercules, Budha, Krishna, Mithra, Achilies, I would imagine hundreds.
and they came after Jesus. He warned us about these false gods. Krishna wasn't an actual person and just look at how many copies of manuscripts we have on the Wrath of Achilles, the Trojan War, Troy, and on Homer's Iliad. Just under a few hundred. There are presently 5686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament. The earliest we have found are within the first century, during the eye witnesses of the accounts written.
Do your homework and get the facts right before debating.
@Canlander7 The oldest bible manuscripts were written no earlier than 4th century, not 1st, & some of those early works say nothing about Jesus resurrection. It makes eye witness account of the zombies who came out of the grave in Matt 27:50-54 a little suspect. Theres a lot of archaeological evidence for the age of the Greek myths, statues, coins, stone carvings, none of Jesus until about 300 AD.
Home work, first century my arse. Either you made a stupid mistake or were deliberately misleading
the zombies who came out of the grave? Yes the copies are 4th century but they are copies of first century manuscripts. Okay so if the copies of manuscripts were found 4 centuries later, it makes them false? What about all those other manuscripts copied hundreds of years later? Don't you believe that Alexander existed?
And to note back to what you were saying about all the stories being the same. None of those offered forgiveness of sins. That's what the Gospel offers thru Christ.
@Canlander7 I wouldnt presume Alexander existed if there were only manuscripts, but theres a serious amount of archaeological evidence, he built entire cities. So lets take Socrates as your example, theres no evidence that he really existed, all we have is copies of his work. But its enough to have the works in themselves, its not important if he existed, cos his words don't claim supreme authority in the universe. With claims such as the bible & Quran make, the evidence should be perfect.
This is true. But we have archaeological evidence of the people in the bible. I was watching a documentary of an atheist trying to find Jesus' body. He of course never found it, but he did find tombs mentioned in the bible in the right locations, as well as caskets of Jesus' brothers. As well as there are many coins and artefacts found in the mountains of Israel and Jordan river. I agree, there should be evidence. That's what led me to the truth. The major question is did Jesus really exist?
In much the same way Jesus was meant to. There is no real evidence that Krishna existed and there is no real evidence that Jesus did; either way you are taking the claims of a book (the Bible for Jesus the Mahabharata for Krishna) as fact.
Krishna didn't reveal himself as the creator... and even if he did, it doesn't make the claim true. Many wackos call themselves God or Jesus but it doesn't make the claim true. I know, think how crazy Jesus would have looked to a lot of people, claiming he was God. But was it true? Did he make these miracles? Does the Bible prove to be supernatural? We'd often ask for signs and miracles to happen. Yet when we read about them in the Bible, we say it's hocus-pocus and hopeful wishing.
no you musn't forget what he taught, his message was also vitally important, because in believing in him you will follow his teachings, i.e live the kingdom of heaven here on earth.
Before Jesus did anything, Horus did everything.
aboyborninjune 4 months ago
I know those horrible born again Christians. Nothing like those humanist athiests that are so "cuddly" like Stalin; Mao; Pol Pot. Hitler was a confused Catholic evolutionist who hated Jews-I guess he wasn't actually an athiest-but he was ALL into the evolution myth. Could magnetic 66 point out the brutal Baptist; Mennonite; Amish killers or dictators that killed their multiplied millions? That "cuddly" athiest crowd ain't fooling around when it comes to kiling people!
buzulakd 5 months ago
If christianity were only to be a nice cuddly faith, then not too many thinking atheists would give a shit as to christians being required to provide proof of biblical God-Jesus. However, when you come at us, insisting that we shall be consigned to eternal torment and death unless we believe; and also insist upon forcibly imposing religious instruction upon OUR children in schools in addition to YOUR children, then we atheists farking are quite within our rights: SHOW PROOF OR FARKOFF!
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
Ahh, so this is why we must all believe . . .
CHRISTIANS MUST PROVE THIS AS TRUTH! THERE IS NO BURDEN OF PROOF UPON THE ATHEIST IN THIS MATTER! IF A CHRISTIAN WISHES THAT ALL SHOULD SIGN A SPIRITUAL COVENANT WITH JESUS, THAT IN EFFECT ENDORSES MOST OF HIS BRETHREN AS ONLY SHIT WORTH BURNING, THEN THE BLOODY CHRISTIANS MUST, REPEAT MUST, PROVIDE THE PROOF. THERE IS NO ONUS ON US TO DO SO!
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
Have you ever noticed the inherent superstitious and over-ritualised nature of orthodox Jews? It's no secret you know ~ all one has to do is to observe. The pig of course is unclean to the Jew, and that is why when swine flu threatened to sweep the world, not just one influential rabbi of Israel, but at least a dozen, all got into an aeroplane, flew as high as they could, and grabbed the onboard phones to begin screaming to god to spare Israel from swine flu. These are the people of "The Book".
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
If I were to be called upon to write a truthful GOSPEL/TESTIMONY as to the events surrounding a certain person of importance, do you honestly think that I should be inclined to then "appropriate" much of this testimony from the accounts of others? Why then, do the gospels of especially Matthew, Mark & Luke repeatedly cut and paste in obvious plaguarisms, but in those areas of substantial individuality of account, hardly ever concur?
!!! TRUTH MAY NOT BE MANIPULATED !!!
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
If god consigned all men to die, then why is it that thousands, perhaps millions of people have reported spiritual out of body experiences, which would suggest that we have an eternal spirit. This can not be naysayed as there are many biblical accounts of biblical men being "in spirit". So, what was the actual nature of the imposed death which did NOT exist prior to the fall? Injurious accidents could never of occurred in Eden, and lions could eat lambs without bringing death.
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
God forbade eating of the fruit of knowledge, yet the tree of life was not off limits in Eden. If the first duo had of eaten first of the tree of life, and then of the tree of knowledge ~ what then? The tree of life must surely represent eternal life; yet Adam & Eve already had eternal life, with god consigning them to undergo death (and separation from god) after the fall. If all men were separated from god, how come subsequent biblical characters walked, talked with god, visited heaven.
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
Posers: why is it that the coming Antichrist is purported to not wish for the "company" of women; and why is it that Lucifer is described as being of the most admirable countenance; and that Jesus also did not wish for the "company" of women, and is also purported to be of admirable countenance? Why would god bequeath man an excellent brain but admonish knowledge? Why does the bible warn against "falling away" with increased knowledge in end times ~ is this a fear that science uncovers bullshit?
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
Exactly! Without Jesus Christianity is a nothing!
Yep, gotta have the FOCUS on Jesus ~ he's the man ~ he's the one ~ he's the bloke who is the god; the one who is to come to earth to destroy all of mankind which do not sign the spiritual covenant that endorses 90% of their brothers as worth less than shit; the one who is to come to destroy the earth.
Satan sort of gets to be redundant!
Jesus will destroy Earth & man ~ who needs Satan to pretend to be god, and be the destroyer?
MagenticAdam66 5 months ago
John 14:6
King James Version (KJV) 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jesus was quite different...Jesus is the Messiah...The person of Jesus is critical, a fulfillment of prophecy..the Christ the Son of God..the person of Jesus the seeker of our souls, the first born of the dead, the scorned
doobersmanster 7 months ago
Being different doesn't equate to being truthful.
oneznzeroz 9 months ago
The teachings of christianity aren't important?
Hufflewaffle 1 year ago
There are many examples of man style half gods being born of a virgin or women impreganted by a God. They never have human sex, the virgina is a one way street to godly births.
There are too many versions of the story to mention, but here are a few and they are always men, Hercules, Budha, Krishna, Mithra, Achilies, I would imagine hundreds.
LouisPlume 2 years ago
and they came after Jesus. He warned us about these false gods. Krishna wasn't an actual person and just look at how many copies of manuscripts we have on the Wrath of Achilles, the Trojan War, Troy, and on Homer's Iliad. Just under a few hundred. There are presently 5686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament. The earliest we have found are within the first century, during the eye witnesses of the accounts written.
Do your homework and get the facts right before debating.
Canlander7 2 years ago
@Canlander7 The oldest bible manuscripts were written no earlier than 4th century, not 1st, & some of those early works say nothing about Jesus resurrection. It makes eye witness account of the zombies who came out of the grave in Matt 27:50-54 a little suspect. Theres a lot of archaeological evidence for the age of the Greek myths, statues, coins, stone carvings, none of Jesus until about 300 AD.
Home work, first century my arse. Either you made a stupid mistake or were deliberately misleading
LouisPlume 2 years ago
the zombies who came out of the grave? Yes the copies are 4th century but they are copies of first century manuscripts. Okay so if the copies of manuscripts were found 4 centuries later, it makes them false? What about all those other manuscripts copied hundreds of years later? Don't you believe that Alexander existed?
And to note back to what you were saying about all the stories being the same. None of those offered forgiveness of sins. That's what the Gospel offers thru Christ.
Canlander7 2 years ago
@Canlander7 I wouldnt presume Alexander existed if there were only manuscripts, but theres a serious amount of archaeological evidence, he built entire cities. So lets take Socrates as your example, theres no evidence that he really existed, all we have is copies of his work. But its enough to have the works in themselves, its not important if he existed, cos his words don't claim supreme authority in the universe. With claims such as the bible & Quran make, the evidence should be perfect.
LouisPlume 2 years ago
This is true. But we have archaeological evidence of the people in the bible. I was watching a documentary of an atheist trying to find Jesus' body. He of course never found it, but he did find tombs mentioned in the bible in the right locations, as well as caskets of Jesus' brothers. As well as there are many coins and artefacts found in the mountains of Israel and Jordan river. I agree, there should be evidence. That's what led me to the truth. The major question is did Jesus really exist?
Canlander7 2 years ago
well i bet the other Gods r unique in their own way too, so there u have it they r real too because they r unique
hovsec 2 years ago
It doesn't matter what they say, it matters if it was true.
Canlander7 2 years ago
He is unique in sending people to hell.
raoskaos 2 years ago
Methinks Greg is forgetting Krishna, an avatar of GOD ('Brahman') in Hinduism. He came down and revealed himself to be GOD.
alanjazzfan 3 years ago
how did he back up his claims?
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago
In much the same way Jesus was meant to. There is no real evidence that Krishna existed and there is no real evidence that Jesus did; either way you are taking the claims of a book (the Bible for Jesus the Mahabharata for Krishna) as fact.
alanjazzfan 2 years ago
he revealed himself to be A God... sorry..
Canlander7 2 years ago
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Krishna didn't reveal himself as the creator... and even if he did, it doesn't make the claim true. Many wackos call themselves God or Jesus but it doesn't make the claim true. I know, think how crazy Jesus would have looked to a lot of people, claiming he was God. But was it true? Did he make these miracles? Does the Bible prove to be supernatural? We'd often ask for signs and miracles to happen. Yet when we read about them in the Bible, we say it's hocus-pocus and hopeful wishing.
Canlander7 2 years ago
Jesus is King
datmagicboy 3 years ago 5
yea I agreee...........good stuff!!
datmagicboy 3 years ago
Christianity is the only religion based on what someone did, not what they said.
Teddy649 4 years ago 2
Is it not both? Jesus SAID he was GOD and that is its main principle.
alanjazzfan 3 years ago
no you musn't forget what he taught, his message was also vitally important, because in believing in him you will follow his teachings, i.e live the kingdom of heaven here on earth.
bazzymushpea123 2 years ago