Religion - And the truth shall set you free 1 of 3

[Bakayaraha]

SHOULD THESE PEOPLE BE CONSIDERED AS SATAN WORSHIPPERS?

[javonne]

what better scam than telling someone, "God says to do this, this, and this. so you can go to heaven and live for eternity after you die..." it's the best con ever. People actually BELIEVE that stuff. And when asked about why you believe these stories, it's always a circular argument. "God is real and God inspired the bible says God is real and God inspired the bible says God is real...' it's sad to see how good and decent people have been fooled into believe these lies of false salvation.

[dinokralt4]

if truth shall set you free why are there 33000 protestant denomination. Evidence appears to suggest that the Truth of the gospels will simply set you free to assert your own understanding of truth. Is one denominations understanding of the Truth better than another's?

[mordanai]

Geez, didn't you know, christian american's don't believe in fact or science. Now that's a fact.

[javonne]

@mordanai what the hell do we need facts and scientific evidence for when we've got FOX News? lol :D

[purbrookian]

A rabbit fossil in the pre-Cambrian stratum would instantly disprove evolution. Now, what discovery would make godmongers give up their silly myth?

[javonne]

@purbrookian lol absolutely nothing mate, you can use a time machine and take a "believer" back in time and show them that the god they believe in is BS. and was created by men, and they would STILL believe this garbage

[YnoT0207]

Paulianity - the master cult. Thank you for articulately presenting the truth without disingenuity!

[CosmicRuna]

Jesus is the apex of the solar saviours

he is the archetype man-god

mythology is the secret language of the spirit just as metaphors are of the mind

what catholics and new born Christians did in no way affects the secret gnosis of the Christ. You childlish legalist make me want to puke. "what's born on the earth belongs to the earth and what's born of the spirit belongs to the spirit"

[YnoT0207]

But still there exists no PHYSICAL "Christ".....and there never will. That's the fundamental difference.

[dogsman20]

Atheist's Ftw

[modernestella]

Oh! and whoever this guy is- the books were written as follows: Matthew A.D. 70, Mark A.D. a few years earlier, Luke A.D. 83, Paul A.D. 52-65. Their leader had just been put to death in a brutal way. Would you publish works that would kill you? Most likely :). Considering that time gap, I think it is remarkable how few discrepancies there are between the books; considering that they were written INDEPENDENTLY from one another.

[zerosum2012]

Wrong. Any scholar will tell you (even the christian ones) the first book written was by Mark at the earliest in 70 AD (most agree between 70 and 110 AD). They know this because he wrote of the destruction of a Jewish temple (in 70 AD)....so unless he wrote his whole book in a year (seems unlikely) it happened later....much later. All the other books were written after Mark's (recognized fact by everyone) because theirs are all derived from Mark's.

Peace...

[PAULOcbi]

@modernestella stop your nonsense,get to a reference library,Christianity is reformed Judaism based on the teaching of Rabbi Hilel`s Golden Rule ca. 200BC. The Gospels were written by reformist Jews under the auspices of the Roman Empire. Roman Historians Tacitus,Flavius and Tranquillas were all born AD and wrote their accounts of JesusChrist AD the same time Gospels were being fabricated c. 50-70 AD. So Jesus surely never existed and is just a dogmatic character like Moses or Jonah.

[modernestella]

Christianity is our (American) religion. American's pride themselves on being Controversial. Thus, Knock the major religion. Christianity is less popular than Buddhism- but their foreign, thus we leave it alone. A note to Christians- Live in the spirit- not in the word. Love was Jesus's message. Don't forget that... Please

[zerosum2012]

America was taken over by the christians later in it's history...just like under god was added to the pledge of allegiance in 1954. Know your history. Peace...

[enomine007]

why cristianity so contreversial? it more logical than the belive in a goddess with 4 or 6 arms. (no offense). attack other religions ..why not? its it cause only christianity steps on the toes of the luciferianism. why are luciferianism not attacking budda or shiva? mmmmm,,,,cause its no harm,cause the real GOD its out there.

[theworldsgreatest01]

@enomine007 Buddha was never a god, he was a spiritual teacher. Many people mistakenly misconstrue Buddha as a god because that is the way we humans do with things. Im sure Jesus did exist, as a teacher who knew the ways of dharma, & the one universal law, & all he did was go out & teach the law, he was enlightened, just as Buddha was, & as Siddharta Gautama was. But we made up all these back stories for him, & made a sect out of that one teaching. Christianity. All religions are the same...

[mordanai]

Someone said "one word: Faith", faith in what? Fairy tales and superstition? Jesus Horus Christ, open your eyes and mind. Repent or go to hell... laughable, fuck you.

[ussdefiant27]

if you real beliver you would'n use word such as fuck you, but you will forgive him...

[ChloePierre]

This is great stuff!

[Pacisdiligo]

He's wrong. One can be a sincere and decent person of faith while also extoling reason. Millions do it everyday and have no problem whatsoever dealing with the complexities and frustrations of everyday life. Western civilization was largely built by such people.

[RussUlmer]

Knowledge is power my friends, and if you look closely at history, what's presented here is documented FACT, not opinion. We have ALWAYS been DELIBERATELY misled by the few people in power so that they can maintain control of the masses. That's happened with every civilization throughout time. Study history people, it's all been done before. Egyptians, Mayans, Aztecs, Romans, Sumerians, doesn't matter. The Elite strive for absolute power and control at any cost, even deception and murder.

[steveatthedisco9]

Faith - 2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

Faith is blindly following for no fucking reason.

That's what god is, a fucking crutch.

[reblion15]

hey fuck all you christains you are mind less assholes and the ones that know the truth will shut you down and you will see you're ignorance and i will wipe that plasterd smile off youre face

[pay2cEM76]

I've never heard a good example or a compelling reason of why faith should take a higher seat than reason.

[KidProper]

I'm sorry but there IS a God!

[zerosum2012]

Yep and hes one sick sob baby killer......Death of Firstborn Ex. 11:1 - 12:36

Kill Sons of Sinners Isaiah 14:21

God Will Kill Children Hosea 9:11-16

Kill Men, Women, and Children Ezekiel 9:5-7

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners Leviticus 26:21-22

These are actual innocent children murdered directly from "your god's" hands (many more quotes avail.). Not cool in my book. Peace...

[KidProper]

All excellent points, but I wouldn't know how to respond to your question without getting defensive. All I can say is that somethings will always be left unanswered. If the bible wasn't a mystery then faith would be obsolete. Peace

[steveatthedisco9]

No, everything won't always be left unanswered.

You know who Jesus is?

He's Horus.

Adapted into a different book.

Fucking Bullshit.

[KidProper]

I've seen the zeigest documentary and my statement still stands haha

[steveatthedisco9]

It's just stupid fucks like you who make me hate organized religion, you just believe to make certain situations a little easier, and ignore whatever gets in the way of your crutch.

I honestly believe anyone who has seriously analyzed the bible, compared it to pagan religions, and still concludes that the bible has any sort of truth to it, is A) Fucking retarded. or B) Being deliberately ignorant because it makes life easier.

Fuck you.

[Jaboie]

@zerosum2012

So is your belief that there is no God and everything just happened perfectly? God created everything in a way that you can believe or not believe and you will see supporting evidence for your view.

[74veracruz]

people are sheep brainless I grew up catholic like a slave I was not owner of my thoughts and or my name and I was a slave only because i was a poor orphaned person too little to fend for herself. Poverty greed glory and power of the rich and greedy made a beast of me I could not hold on to any fame or great fortune all came and went by me and I was aleep in my long term brain washing until I had to wake up from my madnessto see that i have a free will a heart and a brain. Dangerous religion

[zerosum2012]

Welcome out of the matrix of religion 74veracruz. Peace...

[BlameTheMessenger]

what program is this? This is so politically incorrect intolerant and just plain stupid. Jesus lived. Any smart scientist can tell you that a man, named Jesus Christ lived on this earth and got crucified. If any of you want an answer, sit down a pray a sincere prayer and ask for an answer.

[BlameTheMessenger]

And, why make people loose their faith? So they start to live only by the laws of your country instead of the guidelines of loving and caring?

[zerosum2012]

What twisted logic. Have you no morals? No self control? I am a loving caring person (atheist too) but when I say I love you or care for someone it comes from my heart, unlike you who is coerced. Your love is fake, you only pretend to love and care for fear of disobeying your god. Everything you say or do is suspect.

Stop being a tool and use your gift of reasoning, join us or die should have been your first clue. Peace...

[laraesque]

I'm with you, zerosum. I prefer to live with love, caring, and compassion because it is the right thing to do--not because I want to get into some exclusive club after death. In fact, I would not want to be in a heaven with the deity who instructed his followers to take revenge by killing children, babies, women, men, and sheep. (Samuel) Heaven of the bible is rather like a Gestapo spa. Off to the death camps for the unbelievers.

[KCN1418]

"I prefer to live with love, caring, and compassion because it is the right thing to do." If you're an athiest, then there is no right or wrong. There is no good or evil. We are all just heaps of organic matter with no purpose.

[laraesque]

What a foolish thing to say! There is good and evil, and people who subvert what I say are evil. I never said "We are all just heaps of organic matter with no purpose." You said that. We are are so much more! I simply do not get my purpose out of a barbaric book, and I don't need a god threatening eternal torture for me to be kind and fair and compassionate.. In fact, the deity in the bible told its followers to perpetrate great evils: rape, child-killing, genocide. Detestable.

[KCN1418]

So what are we if not a collection of cells that randomly evolved. What higher purpose do we have?

[laraesque]

"So what are we. . ." We are our hopes for peace & tolerance of all races, genders, colors, shapes, and capabilities; we are our dreams to explore the universe & find new answers to old problems; we are our potential to be healthier in mind and body; we are our collective accomplishments in science & art & literature; we are our driving curiosity and potential to expand our knowledge even further. And we are laughter and love, kindness, appreciation of beauty, and friendship. To name a few.

[KCN1418]

"Heaven of the bible is rather like a Gestapo spa. Off to the death camps for the unbelievers." Funny, I didn't know the Jews had a choice to go to the death camps or not. God gave us free will, so we can decide our own paths and choose to follow him or hide in a shadow of lies.

[laraesque]

I choose kindness, tolerance, and compassion. I  would never accept the evil god of the bible, the child-killer, the mass murderer, the jealous, intolerant, Christian deity, even if it were real. The Bible shows him to be worse than most despicable despot, with many more atrocities to his supposedly holy name--dashing babies to death, instructing people to kill their recalcitrant children. Psychotic abuse of the lowest order. I will always embrace love, logic, and caring instead.

[laraesque]

"I didn't know the Jews had a choice to go to the death camps or not." So if Hitler had told the Jews (and disabled and homosexuals) that if they swore fealty to him, and if they believed Hitler to be the only true ruler of the world, that they would escape the death camps, then Hitler would be just like the biblical god. Everyone else, off to the death camps (or hell, in the case of the bible).

[KCN1418]

And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him

1 John 4:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:23

[KCN1418]

I don't think Hitler was very loving nor did he care about the Jews lives. In fact, If you're an atheist, then what Hitler did wasn't bad. He was getting rid of the weak, the crippled, mentaly ill...he was simply helping along natural selection

[laraesque]

KCN said: "If you're an atheist, then what Hitler did wasn't bad." I am an atheist. What Hitler did was evil. Do not make claims on my behalf. Twisting my words to suit your image of an atheist is also evil.

[laraesque]

If you claim that atheists believe certain things when they do not, that is called "bearing false witness." Are you familiar with it?

[laraesque]

I have read the Bible. I see very little love there--just favoritism for the kowtow-ers and sycophants. I see rape, genocide, unjust punishments (stone your children to death if they act too rebellious) ordered by the deity. I see the supposed creator keep Adam & Eve from knowing good from evil, then punish them for eating a piece of fruit (!) when they could not have known it was wrong to disobey because they didn't know good & evil until AFTER they ate the fruit. That is a set-up, not love.

[laraesque]

"he gave his only begotten Son" Okay, Jesus is God because there is only one, right? So they are the same. Even so, that is the creepiest, most sadistic gift anyone could give. This deity sets up Adam & Eve & all their descendants to burn forever for eating fruit (!), then he can't just forgive, the human race has to torture his son to death for him to relent on his completely horrid and disproportionate punishment for eating fruit. I would reject the gift of any such sado-masochist.

[BRAZEN08]

Jesus wasn't a Christian & his name wasn't Jesus. Religion is fucked up but there is a creator of everything.

[crusader1614]

whats he say at 8:08-812

[artfantasies]

What's that? You pass over the fact that Jesus was an historic person. The romans have documented the whole lawsuit. The documents are still existing.

And you pass over the fact that 11 out the 12 followers of Jesus died for their beliefs in Jesus, and that decades after he was executed, as the old scripts and prophets have predicted. That's are facts.

[artfantasies]

... and there is another thing that must said:

if you can't give people a solution with hope and if you can't help them out of their plight, than don't destroying their faith and hope. Because you let them in hopelesness, desperation and darkness.

It's always simple to strew doubts and destroy hope.

[zerosum2012]

artfantasies "The romans have documented the whole lawsuit" What lawsuit? Give links, can u wiki it? New testament was WRITTEN 40 to 110 years after his death. Fact is Jesus died and everyone forgot.

"11 out the 12 followers of Jesus died for their beliefs"....How many innocent children died at the hands of your god? How many innocent people died? Peace...

[artfantasies]

1. Just go to the ARTE TV channel, Arte made a series titled 'Der Prozess Jesu' based on the documents.

2. How many animals are dying every day on earth for your, my and humans food? Everybody is responsible for that.

3. I am not a Catholic and even no Protestant !

But does that matter? Let people their faith, you can't give any hope against death.

[KCN1418]

The thing is. no one is innocent of sin. and everything that happens is part of God's plan. Even though sometimes times get tough and it looks like God is bad, he does everything for a reason and loves us all more than anything. And all the children, and people that have died are in a much better place now with god, away from war and hate.

[zerosum2012]

So do the babies that your god kill's go to heaven? Death of Firstborn Ex. 11:1 - 12:36

Kill Sons of Sinners Isaiah 14:21

God Will Kill Children Hosea 9:11-16

Kill Men, Women, and Children Ezekiel 9:5-7

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners Leviticus 26:21-22

[zerosum2012]

Cont- Rape and Baby Killing - Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. Isaiah 13:15-18

[KCN1418]

he was saying that because babylon had become overwhelm with evil and had given up all faith in god.

[zerosum2012]

"children will be dashed to death right before their eyes" is ok with you!?! "no mercy on helpless babies" and you sleep ok knowing this is your god!?! You're sick or stupid not to see these are innocent children dieing for nothing more then people losing their faith (typical scare tactic too). Look into a child's eyes and tell yourself it's ok to murder him/her and thousands of more beautiful innocent children in the name of god. Wake the F up and stop making excuses. Peace...

[laraesque]

Curse forever for eating fruit, then forgive (if humans will torture his son). . .Thou Shalt Not Kill; then "utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass;" (1 Samuel 15:3); then love thy enemy. This deity keeps changing his mind--what makes you think that he's really going to forgive you? He sounds pretty unreliable--at least fickle--and psychotically cruel.

[laraesque]

Zero, I had to look up the quote in Isaiah 13. Oh yeah, this deity is a real peach: "I will punish the world for their evil. . .Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword...Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. . .shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children. . ."

[laraesque]

KCN, you have explained exactly why people leave the Christian faith. Because a bunch of people (Babylon) a) became evil or b) gave up their faith, this deity has people commit horrid atrocities that are about the most evil things I can think of. Killing babies? Your god said to do that. No mercy? Your god said to practice that. Rape women? Your god said to do that. Your bible is the biggest argument for rejecting it as an evil creation of sick and morally bankrupt, bronze age barbarians.

[KCN1418]

this video is bull. dont let this atheism propaganda trick you christians. the REAL truth shall set you free

[zerosum2012]

Yes KCN1418, good rebuttal. Stay asleep all good christians. Ask no questions and you will receive no lies. Sending someone to hell for not believing is a poor foundation for religion. P.S. Your god is a child killer. Peace...

[KCN1418]

Funny, I dont think jesus ever said anyone who doesn't beleive will go to hell. In fact the point of him dieing on the cross was to save anyone who wanted to be.

[zerosum2012]

So if you don't accept jesus you still go to heaven?!? Nice twist on words, but you know as well as I that you have to accept jesus to get the golden ticket. Join us or Die would make a better description of christianity. P.S. hes still a baby killer. Peace...

[KCN1418]

right but he gives you the choice to accept his death as the payment for your sins. so if you live your whole life not wanting to then thats your decision. peace...

[zerosum2012]

Yea, everyone that goes to jail becomes a reformed born again christian, and I'm sure Hitler and all the other sick bastards all accepted christ before they died so heaven will be a wonderful place for you. Great system...molest and kill children then jesus saves and you never ever have to take responsibility. Wow, how sad is that. But they are all in good company with a baby killing god. Your mind is mush in the hands of religion. Peace...

[kamikazeree]

should wicked men be forgiven?

[laraesque]

"death as payment" So god tosses Adam & Eve out for eating some fruit (!) They had no free will yet, since they didn't know good from evil until AFTER eating the fruit, so they couldn't know it was bad to disobey god. Can you say "setup?" Then he curses all their offspring for something they didn't do! Can you say "over-reactive?" Then he changes his mind--does he just forgive? Nope. Humans have to torture and kill him (his son) to get forgiveness. Disgustingly sadistic payment not accepted.

[zerosum2012]

That's hitting the nail right on the head! I don't know how people read the bible and see love and kindness when it's filled with murder of innocent children, rape, genocide, necromancy, etc.etc.. Must make life nice wearing those rose colored glasses Mr. Christian. Peace...

[laraesque]

"Must make life nice wearing those rose colored glasses Mr. Christian" Must make life nice wearing instruments of execution and torture around their necks! Just think, if this christ person was purported to have lived in another era, followers might be wearing jewel-encrusted nooses, or tiny electric chairs around their necks. Maybe 4 silver little horses with a Christ in the middle being torn apart. Actually, I think Christian crosses are the height of Goth. Gruesome! (Am I off topic?)

[zerosum2012]

lol, a little electric chair. They are stupid to wear such a gruesome symbol. I would think it's insulting and insensitive to Jewish people, but I guess as they say "ignorance is bliss". Peace...

[metalsoul18]

lol... ever heard of the I Ching? Much older than the bible and it's still around. But whatever, it's almost impossible to have a logical, rational open-minded conversation with a religious person, so I'm sure you'll think of some way to prove yourself right and me wrong, BECAUSE you have trapped yourself in that concept.

[zerosum2012]

The religious person's mind have been conditioned to make excuses instead of seeing logic (god works in mysterious ways, freewill, etc..) Smart people will make illogical rationalizations when religion is involved mostly out of fear and or conditioning. That's the fun of religion...join or go to hell. Peace...

[zerosum2012]

MIRCAVA4EVER...Must feel good to be so righteous. I'm glad you judged me by calling me a liar, because now I will see you in "hill" for "bearing false witness" against me. Is it redundant to ask why christians are so dumb?

Peace...

[Rodier1128]

From that sarcasm, you might as well be.

[Rodier1128]

Why does all the jesus events show on the timeline as 0 - 30 AD? Jesus died, then we started counting. Just from that, the information is flawed. Why should I believe the rest of it, if you cant get the dates right?

[thepottymouths]

whats the music used in this?

[Dedicednu]

Interesting vid

[SagDec15]

Santa has touched more lives through the ages than Anyone! and still does, once a year! ask any 4 yr old, they'll tell ya ;)

[Rocketermusic]

Before distorting the truth, read well dude, oh suggest u reading Isaias, of the Dead seaa scrolls

[arielattacks]

And the Osires tablet on the crucifix is alsso a hoak. What the hell is going on here?

I am not trying to defend religion but how about telling the truth, huh?

[Catomania5]

everyone forgot  XD

[arielattacks]

I trying to undersatnd something here. Did not Paul know peter and the apostles? He hung out with them. So what is this guy talking about that Paul did not know about the story of Jesus Christ? Does this make sense? The books of acts is an acount of Paul even speaking with the apostles. So what the fuck?

[michaelarcand]

Look up Hebrews 8:4 for yourself, and read the context. It's so twisted in its use here it's like a pretzel. Give me a break!!! There is more historical evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ than there is of Julius Caesar. He has influenced more of the current world culture than any other person who ever lived. How can you discount this evidence and say he never existed? To dispute his claims, that is one thing. To discount the existence ... give me a break.

[zerosum2012]

michaelarcand you have been lied to. All through history people have written about the time's they were in and these can be cross referenced with other peoples work at the time so we have a clear idea of what was going on. There is Zero, nada, nothing written about Jesus during his life. A guy who walks on water and heals the sick has No historian chronicle these miracles for the world to see. Mark, Mathew, Luke and John were all written 70AD and later. No Lie my friend. Peace...

[arnie365]

it`s very funny that a socalled unreal man accurately predicted what is happing 2 day,is`nt it

[deriik2020]

Also the point of religion is blind faith. There is no proof, etc. thats just a given. It IS frustrating debating with some "Well it says it in the bible so that's proof!" Those types are just lost in a cloud so i do agree with what this is saying, BUT I think that it's a useless speech which only insults people. Like I said there's always gonna be warring and fighting and terrorism with or without religion. I just think it's picking the wrong battle is all.

[deriik2020]

Instead of attacking the religion maybe attack the people. Who cares if they beleive in a giant spaghetti monster as long as they dont hurt anyone. "Religion is divisive, dangerous..." Not really it isn't. people are. If we didn't have religion we'd still have riots at soccer games, terrorist attacks over land, poverty, greed, etc. Religion is just one of a million excuses. I don't really have one personally but I recognize in US at least ithas the power for a lot of good and that outweighs bad.

[princesorrow1]

wow, it was almost me speaking when I am drunk.. but you missed a few thing's.. it was Constantine at Neccea in 387AD and yes, it was a symbol of being put to death.. that is his last name.. Christ? The latin translation of Joshua with the method of his death as his last name.. they don't even get his name right,lol. Yeah, and they hate jews...which he was.. of the line of David, Abraham, Moses, Noah and Adam. But they hate jews... sicko's.

[zerosum2012]

Thanks, she has a lot of good things to say. Peace...

[zerosum2012]

You probably mean the message of Jesus? God "in the old testament" was very mean, spiteful, jealous etc.. And when you say simple minded is it because 80% of the educated people see the man behind the curtain and become atheists and shun all deities. When you say "most people" I hope you take into account 70%+ of the US is Christian. Kinda sad...Peace...

[zerosum2012]

Depends if you believe in the old testament or not "an eye for an eye" etc.. Fun stuff the bible, very contradictory (but of coarse it's "the word of god") and any good Christian will ignore that and believe blindly because thats the Christian way "Blind Faith".

[zerosum2012]

TNTcobble ..#1 Luke Skywalker, and who cares!? wow.. #2 these teachings you talk about are called moral values, and either you have them or you don't. I love every human being on this planet unconditionally, and I don't need a book or superstition to coerce me that way.

[zerosum2012]

#3 ever heard of the inquisition, witch trials, crusades, all wonderful parts of our history brought to us by...well You, and your beliefs.

You are in the Matrix, you must open your eyes and see the world for what it is, think for yourself. Peace...