1st Systema Professional Seminar Berlin (Germany)

[HappyRoger123]

THey always show how teacher hits his students but I never see how systema works in sparring. I always think about combat capoeira, which was a dance always until recent years when it turned to be a martial art. But no sparrings too... and no contact during training... weird. Systema is the same thing. They always say that special forces use it, but they dont. Russian armed forces have their hand-to-hand combat which is much like sambo+karate.

[ploD1]

I like this,,,it is really helpful in street fight,,,i always love to braking knees of the enemy ;)

[HappyRoger123]

@ploD1 Im not sure... you better be careful some guys may take you too seriously and break your bones, you know... I heard about cases when a boxer killed a guy with only one strike. You know, you cant train your brain to be strike resistant. Buy insurance.

[ploD1]

@HappyRoger123 I understand what you say,but when you in danger and when few people comes aorund you,you will do anything is possible to defend yourself,so that's the moment where i do evrything i can,braking bones,legs etc...If is fight 1 vs 1 then will be different but few ppl vs 1 hmmm i will do anything to defend myself :)

[pwnreza]

lool :D das ist so lustig ... letzten Mittwoch haben wir genau so aufgewärmt wie im video

[NBSystema]

Gotta love Danil's work, takes after his father in so many ways. Would be a honor to have him down under one day. btw does anyone know the name of the music? Song name or artist?

Gotta love Danil Werk, nach seinem Vater in vielerlei Hinsicht. Wäre eine Ehre, ihn haben sich unter einem Tag. btw weiß jemand den Namen der Musik? Song Name oder Künstler?

[Weedus2]

Systema mag gut sein,aber wenn mann eine wirklich tödliche Kampfkunst sehen will sollte mann sich mal "Silat" anschauen,gibts in verschiedenen Versionen,manche mti Kris-Dolch manche ohne.Silat wurde als Waffe gegen die Englischen Besatzer entwickelt,alle Techniken zielen darauf ab denn Gegner so schnell wie möglich zu Töten.Es gibt zb zahlreiche Techniken die auf den Kehlkiopf oder das Genick zielen.Zb sich mit dem Schienbein/Knie auf den Hals des Gegners fallen lassen..

[superGottx]

@Weedus2

lol das mit dem knie auf kehlkopf springen ist schon verdammt effektiv zum töten nä^^

muss aber nicht gleich töten sein, man kann den auch taub machen, wenn man dem auf die ohren schlägt, oder blind machen wenn man ihm glassplitter in die augen wirft, an paar arme und beine mitm hebel brechen und so nä,XD so klärt man streit loooool

[Weedus2]

@superGottx Versteh mich nicht falsch.Systema ist ja für Soldaten im Krieg entwickelt worden und soll den Gegner möglichst effektiv ausser Gefecht setzen oder Töten.Und von diesem Standpunkt aus gesehen wäre Silat vieleicht besser.Aber für normale Leute zur Selbstverteidigung ist es natürlich nicht so geeignet.

[superGottx]

@Weedus2 ja sorry mein kommentar ist n bisschen brutal übertrieben merk ich grad^^,

ich selbst hasse es wenn ich jemanden schlagen muss,hab mal als kind jemanden ziemlich heftig zwischen die beine getreten , dass tat mir selbst schon sehr leid,ich dachte ohh scheisse der wird auf keinen fall mehr kinder bekommen^^, muss man aber leider manchmal...mann wie ich leute mit großer fresse hasse, und wenn se dann heulen dann aber richtig

[Aphrophis]

@Weedus2

Gibts doch auch wo anders? Man Leute, fixiert euch doch nit immer so auf einen Stil. Seid doch froh, wenn ihr mehrere Quellen habt, aus denen ihr schöpfen könnt. WT hat gute Elemente, Silat, Systema...pickt euch doch was raus!

Wenns zum Kampf um Leben und Tod kommt und der Adrenalinspiegel unter der Decke ist, fallen einem die komplizierten Moves sowieso nicht mehr ein. Niemand verleiht euch einen Orden, wenn ihrs im Silat Stil versucht. Mann.

[GonG108]

ok they move very slow and the attaks are not very skilled they don t have system , i would like to chek this out and attack this guy wing tsun like , i still cannot believe that this works same like all the dim mak fake guys with their touch of death and other bull shit

[seanyglass]

@GonG108 I have a friend who ripped the check at a bar because he didn't want to pay it; the funny thing is he was at the exit of the club and the girl was holding the check about 20 yards away behind the bar. Now that is called the "Death Glance."

[GonG108]

@seanyglass yeah i would love to see this with my own eyes

[187wolfgang]

@GonG108 1. sind das seminare die für alle offen sind (also für anfänger) - vielleicht sollte man reguläre kampffrequenzen einsetzen um bewegungsabläufe für einsteiger anschaulich zu machen *lächerlich*. 2. solltest du vielleicht prinzipiell die fre**e halten wenn du von derartigen systemen keine ahnung hast. effektivität hat nichts mit schnelligkeit zutun. wie schnell du agierst hängt meist von den jahren ab die du professionell derartige systeme verinnerlicht hast ...

[GonG108]

@187wolfgang ich mache seit 17 jahren salih avci wing tsun und ich bezweifele erheblich das auch nur einer von euch mir hier das wasser reichen kann. also wenn du schon so einen ton anschlägst dan solltest du auch das echo vertragen , generlell kritisiere ich keine anderen kamkfkünste und du kannst mir glauben sifu salih ist mit seiner fertigeit lichtjahre von euch entfernt . anyway , belügt euch ruhig weiter selbst bis ihr mal in eine ernste situation kommt und dann ist das gejammer groß.

[GonG108]

@187wolfgang zweitens solltest du stöpsel mit worten wie halte deine fresse sparsam umgehen da es bei uns als eine ziemliche lächerichkeit gilt wenn jemand hinter seinem monitor und sener tastatur mir sagt halt die schnauze , respekt hat man dir anscheinend noch nicht bei gebracht deswegen geht ihr auch allen direkten vergleichen aus dem weg , wenn ich bedenke wie viele kampfsport schulen uns hausverbot erteilt haben und nur weil wir innerhlab von 3 sekunden alles beendet haben

[GonG108]

@187wolfgang in 17 jahren wing tsun habe ich noch keinen einzigen dim mak meister gesehen nur schwätzer und scharlatane wie william chung , biröl özden und andere welche meinen die super stars zu sein aber auf der strasse keine 2 sekunen stehen bleiben . ich würde ich sehr , wirklich sehr gerne von dir eines besseren belehren lassen dann aber bitte mit authentischen videos oder scenen so das ein geübtes auge sehen kann ob das effizient ist . wie gesaagt soll kein angriff sein nur ein hinweiss .

[GonG108]

@187wolfgang versteh mich bitte nicht falsch , ich bin einfach generell an allen möglichen techniken interessiert, dabei gibt es aber eine menge die nichts taugt , in der regel spüre ich mit meinem körper im voll kontakt ob es was taugt oder nicht , deswegen bin ich immer interessiert mal auf vertreter anderer kampfkünste zu trreffen um ( freundschaftlich ) die skills aus zu tauschen da WT kein stil ist sondern ein konzept welches sich kombinieren lässt, also trotz rauhen tons ich meine es gut

[187wolfgang]

@GonG108 Deine Kommentare zeigen eindrucksvoll welches "sportliche" Gebaren du an den Tag legst und wieviel Ahnung du hast. Mach deine NWO Videos und geil dich auf deinem YT Account auf wie du willst, jeder Troll kann hier große Sprüche machen von was er ne Ahnung hat und wieviel Jahre er aktiv ist. Die Methodik des Systemas ist Ausbildungsgrundlage der bestausgebildesten Spezialeinheiten auf diesem Globus. Und wie du schon redest zeigt mit das du keinen Respekt vor anderen Meistern hast.

[187wolfgang]

@GonG108 "WT kein stil ist sondern ein konzept" - nach ach was? fragt sich was systema ist du superinformierter Alleskaputtschläger *LOL*... systema ist mma also mixed martial art: trainer die ich hatte kommen von JiuJitsu, Aikido, Kali, BJJ ... und die haben wiederum mit Sambos etc. trainiert - ist vielleicht der witz bei der Sache - WARUM MAN GENAU DESWEGEN SYSTEMA nicht per se beurteilen kann. zeig mir mal bei welchen UFC du Lesnar umgehauen hast xD sollte ja für dich kein problem sein, held

[GonG108]

@187wolfgang du langweilst mich langsam, lern mal dein sport oder wenn du meinst kampfkunst und wen du dann bereit bist dir deine vernichtende niederlage zu holen lade ich dich freundschaftlich in unser WT studio ein ( naürlich mit mund und tiefschutz ) und dann lass uns mal sehen wieviel sekunden du stand hälst ansonsten betrachte ich unser sinnloses gespräch als beedet , maulhelden zahlen bei uns die miete , nichts für ungut auch solche muss es geben , alles gute

[GonG108]

@187wolfgang und damit du mich nicht für überheblich hälst , ich lasse mich gerne eines besseren überzeugen nur hat das in 17 jahren noch keiner geschafft . die meisten ergehen sich in endlosen dialogen und theorethischen sprüchen und wenn es dann zum kampf kommt haben sie romane an entschudigungen warum dieses oder jenes nicht geklappt hat. kleiner tipp google mal sifu slaih avci und mach dich mal vertraut mit WT und dann überleg nochmal , es gibt schöne videos von sifu heinrich pfaff u.a.

[aviomaster]

They are coming to Cancun Mexico 2011 Check the dates.

[RDMC]

Good work Falco..! We'll meet again in Berlin once...;)

Gr Martijn / Holland

[TheMrsupernappy]

kk nep

[surobakianinpo]

why is it that in almost every systema videos there is a flamewar conductet by bulky testosterone overfilled dickheads doing muaythai/mma/jiujitsu/kickbox trying to harden and expand their egos?

[Rainmanontour]

lol bullshit......

[Ronin6575]

It is interesting to read what the so called critics of this video have said............

those of you who are such experts t, should put your own video on youtube so you can show all of us how to do it better!

[Madsovic999]

@Ronin6575

or better yet, challenge one of these guys and film it.

[delpatppp]

unrealistisch

[Tricking4Fun]

when its again in germany? i want to go to a workshop or something else

[sexandsox]

@Pokerislife7 well ur and idiot cus im a wrestler too ive been wrestling for 5 years and in 17, and we may be able to take him down but your going to get fucked up once you get him down, or while your going down your gna get knocked in the face 3 times before you touch the leg, u down know shit about systema, and beter chance are you go for a low single than a double leg cus ur going to get hit before you even touch his legs

[Dreadnought942]

@Pokerislife7 its not being a better opponent

systema is exactly what it is

its a system it teaches you to be calm and focused in a fight without loosing your head.

and even if you learned 5/8 years of it you can't be good without experience. it all comes down to it

please stop bullshiting people or ill send Vlad to make a bretsel out of you :)

[HappyRoger123]

@Dreadnought942 I wish I had a chance to show you how you are wrong about systema lessons. Nothing teaches you better than real fight, and it is so fucking emotional you cant even imagine.

[koshkudro]

@Pokerislife7 i wrestled for 20 years won many titles, thought systema was a joke, bunch of stuntmen flipping around for their partner, but that was completely changed when i met Vlad, systema is no joke, if you go against a good systema guy they will hurt you. There are alot of guys who been doing systema for like 5 years and they arent really good at it but some make you fill like a total FNG, even if you wrestled for 20 years they make you look like you dont know anything. GO SEE VLAD.

[Dreadnought942]

@Pokerislife7 or really fat to achieve it.... these guys will just use your weight against you and your fucked in the ass by his fist

[Cuntexplosion]

yeah...this video is great...great teacher! doesn`'t even need to keep his hands up while getting attacked ^^ what a bullshit seminar!!!!! i just wanna see him against a real martial artist in a real fight 0o

[Unitzero25]

@Cuntexplosion Who would a "real" martial artist be?

[Cuntexplosion]

@Unitzero25 anybody who does compete in a fighting style with fullcontact rules!

an athlete...not a self-titled artist of crypling magic attacs to lifepoints or whatever ^^

[reylanz]

I have seen this video twice. I'm going out to start a fight right now with anyone to practice the techniques. LOL

[mk2snake]

no martial art in this world can save your ass in front of multiple guys!

not krav maga not wing chun not mma nothing!!!

just a good old m4A1!! and if you dont have one than don´t even start the fight against them!

those techniques shown in the vid look good in movies but not in a fight!

[PuddingblendeR]

@mk2snake you think no martial arts can defends against multiple opponents?

its just al about strategie,

[michelem76]

Bullshit!!!

[roninpainbringer]

what kinda BULLSHIT is this????

[jakeizlove]

@muaythai193

For your own safety please resist any and all temptation to "take things to the ground" in an actual fight. Also, the "system" in Systema refers to a way of understanding one's own natural movement, not pre-planned techniques. MMA is great for sports and even good for self defense in some real life situations but a bunch of guys feeling invincible because they have "TapOut" shirts gives it a bad name. In Systema ground work is discouraged because it restricts dealing with multiples

[akaNadik]

wait wtf , letting some1 do push-ups on my package? im not sure about that

[richardshapiroII]

beautiful leg work!

power and timing without any real upper body movement!

always a pleasure to watch some good systema work.

[Metlenko1]

wow totally not gay

[AshamedAshima]

ehmbin so einsam heute wäre echt klasse falls sich jemand finden würde der mit mir schreiben will

[Caputalist]

@dsfrfref ja? hast du schon mal gegen einen der das macht gekämpft? nein? mach doch mal es ist nicht so wie du denkst es gibt für jede kleinste bewegung des gegners einen angrif ehrlich gesagt es gibt keine kampftechnick die dagegen ankommen würde weil man einfach nie dazu kommt einen im systema verletzten zu können (falls dieser das auch kann) schau dir doch mal systema vladimir vasiliev quick fight an

[constableman]

they are all moving like zombies!

[kaindrg]

i liek it cuz i prefers muscle tension ot muscle size beauce builing larger muscle isnt natural its not how the human body was designed to do

[milano1919]

for me... a good russian martial art is combat sambo

[kaindrg]

idk this loosk brolic since the spetznaz use it to oust ppl and it takes less energy

[Fitz972]

After 12 years of various martial arts ( Boxing Bujinkan, Karate, Viet Vo Dao) Systema still the best.

It's really out of this world, and if ya think the way to go is full force, ya miss points.

1)It asks to be trained all the time. Many mentionned MMA guys. MMA people are quite good, because they train all the time. But what happens in a basic MMA fight? The guy trains weeks to be ready on time, with rules. Because no knife, chair, or anything, and 1vs 1 all of these ARE rules.

[not4resale]

@dsfrfref i wouldn't go so far as saying an mma fighter could hack a knife or a 5 man assault. We don't train for it. You are equipped for alot but things that you don't train don't become motor responses.

[akaNadik]

@dsfrfref mma fighters don't train to fight multiple people, and its a controlled enviroment because there's set rules you must abid by. you try to do ju-jitsu on some1 in real life and his buddies will stomp on you the second you hit the ground. In the real world you never go to the ground. ever. thats basically a death sentence if your in a fight with some1 that really wants to hurt you. 1v5 or anything over 2 is too much for any person no matter have skilled you are

[akaNadik]

@dsfrfref I don't talk shit , im just telling you have it really is. if you don't like it that's your busniess but im not going to engage in a dick measure contest on the internet with some kid living a never ever land.... plz get a reality check because this attitude you're expressing just gets people like yourself hurt.

[akaNadik]

@dsfrfref it might seems like im insulting you but im really just trying to help you out and preventing you from entering undesirable scenarios that might result in serious injury to yourself. people might say you will learn through first hand experience but when it comes to your well-being , its better to learn from the mistakes of others. good day

[akaNadik]

@dsfrfref I've trained in boxing since i was 13 and I've trained in tai-jitsu for 2 years, do i need more distance to perform a hip throw? no , but when your fighting multiple people range is your best friend. im not saying im a professional or anything close to that , all im saying is fighting multiple people isn't as easy as your making it out to be.for the most part it's better to just walk away because violence results to more violence

[akaNadik]

@dsfrfref first off let me just tell you I've been in a fight with multiple people and they just don't stand around and let you beat up their friends, they attack you at the same time and you wouldn't have the distance or the time to pull off half the crap you are saying. please stop lying its pathetic and i'm not gullible. last thing any instructor tells you to do is stand and fight . so stop trying to play mr.mma fighter because its ridiculous and im not into storytelling.......

[bunkai23]

come on...the way it is presented here looks like crap and bullshit. like at 2'52! lol come on

[StrengthFromAbove83]

yes. it LOOKS fake... until it is done to you. I used to say the SAME THING...

[darpuzw]

Looks like a chto za khui type of fighting....

[GetSongz]

This really is the best fighting technique ever.. This isnt a jumping style like others.. all of these guys in the video are newbies.. watch SYSTEMA and u ll see wat it is.. I wish I was livin in Moscow to learn it =)

[wolfcooker]

it's not for those who want to be mma champ, but for ordinary humans to get out of trouble on the street, in elevator or car park when violent yobs are up to hurt you

[RusBeton]

no the russian speznas is learning that kind of things ,too.

[EliasS5469]

This is NOT a fighting technique to learn as a civilian, if you want that then go and learn Krav Maga, that works, not this shit.

[CBoavida]

This reminds me a lot about Bujinkan, only less stylized.

I like it!

[brennan2482]

looks like the art of fighting drunks or pacifists. real fights arent like that.

[jogobonito1234]

Nice work.

[patrickwise06]

i take aikido and i thought it was odd this so so wierd!!!

[Fangen88]

Who's Daniil Ryabko? Mikhail's son or brother?

[XIPM3]

son

[marsho75]

CLOWNS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xw0LveS89]

good... since u said that.. then try them .. see if they are still consider clowns...

[player1CR]

exactly!

[SirGallagher]

Sytema is the top of the roof !!!!

[krikolass]

atsukasana!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SoulStonedGod]

until I see and feel my self I say Systema IS BULLSHIT....

[PopLockIn29]

Well, this is ignorance. The Russian Army is using Systema. So u rly think it's Bullshit? When a Army of a nation like Russia is using these techniques, than i rly think it can't be bullshit.

[SimulacronX]

Yeah,but the problem is the Russian army uses Sambo and Samoz, which are really old martial arts, and not Systema, which was invented by Riabko and Vasiliev. I'm absolutely convinced it is crap, sorry to say. I mean just look at what they're doing. It's one of the worst pseudo martial art I've seen. It's a scam.I've never seen any proper footage of sparring with a resisting opponent using it

[XIPM3]

try it before you knock it, anways systema dates back to the 10th century AD, it was not invented by ryabko at all, anways you are correct, russian army, police forces, etc. don't use systema, they use a mix of judo, karate, sambo, etc. systema was a classified secret reserved only for GRU spetsnaz and possibly FIS and FSB spetsnaz as well, and probably other less well known units. even russian airborne (equivalent of U.S. army rangers) were not taught systema.

[SimulacronX]

Interesting info, but basically, Systema just means "system". It could be anything.

I advise you to be sceptical.

[XIPM3]

well thats the point of systema- it is 100% principle, and 0 technique, moves develop naturally from the individual based on basic principle, there are no established techniques in systema, and no katas, after 5 years of doing various martial arts, for me systema is the most complete and well rounded, as well as being devastatingly efficient. but that's just me.

[SuckerFree604]

first actual systema response that i can take seriously... im glad your not one of those SYSTEMA BEATS ANYTHING idiots... dont get me wrong systema is a good for everyone well rounded skill.... but past that their are tons of styles that lead farther and harder then systema... systema was designed for special forces... so obviously a soldiers routine was demanding... but your average "practitioner" doesnt have this routine... i think systema would be better combined with something else

[XIPM3]

i am not experienced enough to make a sound reply to your statement- however i will say this, in my 5 years of martial arts training from BJJ, to Wing Chun, and Muay Thai, (plus a few others), systema is more complete, well rounded and deadlier than any of those (and i fucking love muay thai). the thing is- most people who do systema came from other backgrounds such as myself, what you dont see that often is people from systema going to other martial arts- theres probably a good reason for that.

[SuckerFree604]

hmm... well that sounds like the soundest response ive gotten on here... ive looked around on here for a bit and ive changed my mind quite a bit.... i didnt realize that it based itself around speed... someone told me it was all joint manipulation which we all know isnt enough to stop a clinch or a omaplata.... my eyes are being opened.... i highly doubt theres annnnny systema where i live

[XIPM3]

the thing is- with most martial arts, the individual is told to conform to the style, with systema- the style conforms to the individual, so everyone's systema is different, because everyone is different.

[XIPM3]

(continued) i forgot to add, most people who do systema nowadays are probably not very good because they don't have a specific goal in mind, they are somewhat aimless and dont know what exactly they want to do with system, my goal is very clear. i am looking for a career in spec ops, so i know exactly what i want out of my systema- a way of thinking and moving that is the most efficient, devasating, and stealthy way possible while expending the least amount of energy needed to execute an action.

[Fangen88]

Out of genuine interest, how would you qualify a traditional Systema workout compared to say a Muay Thai or MMA workout. Systema does look hard but in all the videos I've seen, there's no "go all out" "full force" training or sparring which is what kind of puts me off atm.

[XIPM3]

thats a really good question (and a hard one too!)- i am not sure to be honest... i love muay thai, its brutally effective, but its not as advanced as systema. systema has some excellent workouts, those 30 second pull ups and pushups are real killers, plus systema works with kettlebells. i dont know man, its hard to say- i really do love muay thai, alot, its like asking a child which parent they love more. they're just different. but i do have to give the SLIGHT edge to muay thai for workout.

[Fangen88]

Thanks for the answer. The reason I'm asking is I'm moving to Canada next week, so I'll have access to both MMA and Systema (did 3 years of aikido before because I had neither here). I guess I'll check both and decide on the club I like most. I got a feeling Systema would benefit more on the long term (life) and mma on the short term (as long as I'm young and fresh?).

[XIPM3]

my advice is do what your heart tells you to. NEVER go against your heart- because your heart will fuck you up later if you do. i did wing chun for 3 years against my heart- simply because it was the only thing around, and i didnt know much else, when i took my first systema class, i didnt much care for it, it was not what my heart wanted, later i went to another instructor for a seminar, i fell in love instantly, since than i have been doing systema only with the instructor chosen by my heart.

[XIPM3]

(i am sorry that had to sound so gay and cheesy)

[CBoavida]

Dont worry about it man.

[billysue2]

youre comparing a full contact ring proven system to this load of rubbish with zero contact .The lad in this video looks like he never trained a day in his life,I assume hes mikail ryabkos son whos equally as useless.

[ballm0use]

looks like a defensive tech, not offensive.

[SuperleggeraVW]

It can be offensive, but from what I have seen usually you let the enemy/attacker attack, then use their attack momentum to through them off, and then attack.

[jakeizlove]

All the Systema guys are being very humble because they probably have no desire to start another on-line peeing contest.

Main difference between the workouts: Over time, Systema makes you stronger/healthier. Harder styles eventually break the body down. I say this because proper breathing and improved natural movement will lead to increased health and permit a person to defend themselves even in more advanced age.

[xtina2202]

@jakeizlove

you are completely right. the only people to ever participate in pissing contensts is the wannabe tough guys and they usually make fools of themselves on their own. its much more fun to just sit back and laugh at all of them.

[HOKUTOSHINKENis]

@xtina2202 there are people who make fun of you and you dont know who they are

[muaythai193]

@jakeizlove

MMA is and will always be the one and only complete unarmed combat system.

Why, because EVERY FIGHTER can use THEIR OWN individual combination, rather than relying on a system

Bruce Lee knew it already back in the days! lol

[Ronin6575]

@jakeizlove  I totally agree about the hard styles breaking the body down....

Systeme doesn't look as pretty, but who cares?

[coratris]

@jakeizlove It gets told like it is..

[shmocko22]

try it first before you open your mouth

[SimulacronX]

I know what I'm talking about.

[XIPM3]

poplock, if you haven't tried it, don't knock it, if you have tried it- and still don't like it, than maybe what you say means something- as of now you have as much credibility as a stoned teenager who does nothing but jack off, smoke weed and work at mcdonalds.

[Alel4131]

Once you reach a higher level of training and understand human anatomy, you will be able to analyze things without necessarily having to feel them.

By the way, the system is quite good.

[kamiyamashinobisha]

I'm not saying they are simple or hard push ups, already been there and done that. I'm saying why go to a martial arts seminar and do push ups?

[grunticus09]

Yes i agree.

[XIPM3]

because where else are you going to get 15 people all together in one room and do those kind of pushups?

[kamiyamashinobisha]

why would someone go to a seminar and do push ups and all that aerobics?

[burkhardpranke]

cause they are a little different from what most people expect, when they hear push-ups....

[kamiyamashinobisha]

so the seminar is taken up by aerobics and push ups as well as other so called stuff other than self defense?

[burkhardpranke]

you might wanna try those shown in the beginning of the video. if you watch further, you might realise there is a little more than push-ups and aerobics to it....;-)

[kamiyamashinobisha]

Hi, I think you are missing the point.. martial art seminar or aerobic seminar? Is it that people don't have enough to give you or show so they do aerobics during a seminar? It is like a class of taekwondo.. 20 min of stretching and then the next 20 min of forums.

[kamiyamashinobisha]

I understand what a push up is, I'm not saying it is not worthy either. I'm saying why go to a martial arts seminar and do them?

[burkhardpranke]

to learn.

[titankorn]

Ich finde das Kampfsportsystem äußerst faszinierend und habe großen Respekt davor. Bisher habe ich mich lediglich mit Krav Maga, Muay Thai, MMA und Grappling beschäftig. Ob es wohl möglich ist das Gebiet effektiv zu erweitern? :)

[MK150275]

Ich finde es immer wieder erstaunlich wie gewisse Leute sich versuchen ein Urteil zu bilden wenn sie einen Trainingsausschnitt sehn!!! Sehr bedauerlich ist auch, dass viele Systema mit Kampfsportarten oder SV-Stilen vergleichen!! Systema ist eine Kampfkunst und das bedeutet mehr als ein Katalog voll Techniken oder ein Regelwerk! Wenn Systema nicht funktionieren würde wären Vlad, Michail, Vale.... schon längst Tod! Kommt doch mal auf ein Seminar und seht selbst...

[burkhardpranke]

es mag locker aussehen, was daniil macht. das bedeutet jedoch nich, dasser keine kontrolle haette. das gilt auch fuers messer. wenn man im video genau hinsieht, sieht man, dass das messer seinen koerper mit der schneide nie beruehrt. verantwortungslos isses auch nich. daniil trainiert polizei in moskau ud hat jahrelang bei seinem vater gelernt. da fallen mir ganz anderes ein, was als selbstverteidigung verkauft wird....

[Orjas67]

Jeder schwört auf seine Kampfsportart. Die einen sagen: "Systema. Das ist es." Die anderen: "Krav Maga ist das beste." Wieder andere: "Jiu Jitsu (Takwondo, Karate, Muay Thai, Capoeira etc.9 schlägt alle anderen." Dann gibt es Musado (Nahkampf der Bundeswehr),  Kyŏksul (Nahkampf der ehemaligen DDR), Close Quarter Combat (Nahkampf der US-Army), Combat 56 (Nahkampf der polnischen Armee) usw. etc.

[187YKZ893]

denke mal in den meisten fällen wird boxen das beste sein. mit boxen kann man ohne probleme es mit 3-4 leute aufnehmen

[nikaze]

so ein schwachsinn.keine kampfsportart der welt wird dir diekraft geben es mit 3 bis 4 leuten aufzunehmen

[187YKZ893]

1 boxer gegen 3-4 gute boxer ist natürlich schwachsinn. schau mal: /watch?v=DW0hhzA1LTY 1 boxer schafft es locker, sich gegen 3-4 leute zu behaupten, die ohne system einfach raufhauen. kennst du "kimbo slice"? vor ihm hab ich wirkl. respekt. in der praxis wird man kaum beintechniken anwenden können, weil es häufig der grund für stürze ist. stürze bei beintechniken passieren häufig bei taekwondo und kickbox kämpfen. im echten leben wärs schon das ende wenn man am boden liegt

[Squarenet]

Gunting82, das ist aber Fakt, dass es das ist. Systema ist eine bewährte und vom russischen Militär eingesetzte Kampfform, bei der es um das Lenken, Manipulieren und außer Gefecht Setzen möglicher Angreifer, auch in größerer Zahl, geht. Zur Philosophie gehört ebenso der Respekt des Gegenübers, aber gut, das wolltest Du ja nicht wissen. Was ich damit sagen möchte: Es ist tatsächlich pure Selbstverteidigung und das auf höchstem Niveau.

Schau Dir z.B. Jiu-Jitsu an...

[xxXOhLeeXxx]

Naja lieber Squarenet-Selbstverteidigung auf höchstem Niveau würde ich das nicht nennen. Die Techniken die da als Messerabwehr gezeigt werden sind absolut untauglich. Wie oft hatte der Verteidiger das Messer am eigenen Körper ohne Kontrolle über die Klinge zu haben. Im Ernstfall wäre er übelst zerschnitten worden. Auch die restlichen Techniken überzeugen mich nicht. Nur weil etwas als militärische Kampfform verkauft wird muss es nicht gut sein bzw muss der Referent nicht unbedingt Ahnung haben..

[Squarenet]

Nun, recht hast Du, zumindest stimme ich Dir in dem zu, dass ein solcher Referent eben nicht unbedingt Ahnung haben muss. Was nun eben auch jedwelche Patzer in den Lehrstunden erklären würde und auch könnte, sofern dieser diese "erklärt". Auch stimme ich Dir in dem Punkt zu, dass etwas, das als militärische Kampfform verkauft wird, nicht gut sein muss. Was mich allerdings überzeugt ist nicht, dass Systema als solches verkauft wird,sondern vielmehr Systema als Systema beim Militär angewandt wird.

[BBeyondd]

Das is großteil selbstverteidigung. Auserdem siehts chillig aus. Nur weiter so djungz und mädelz

[Gunting82]

Es ist in meinen Augen äußerst verantwortungslos so etwas als Selbstverteidigung zu verkaufen...

[TheHade]

Tolles Video; war ja auch ein tolles Seminar! :-)

[Petarosus]

Nice, i like Daniil work i think he got coolness of his father.