What's the point keeping a long straight and three chikanes right into the woods? Every car goes about the same speed there, it's just pointless energy/fuel-wasting transport.
instead of spending unnecessary money on new stupid circuit and creating stupid rules to try to bring some more emotion, why not bring the old circuit back
I went around the old track yesterday (bike) its mostly full with small trees, theres nothing there, absolutly nothing, apart from one straight. Such a shame!!!
It was obvious that a track redesign was on the cards at Hockenheim, but I think everyone was surprised when they tore up the old track section. It still makes me sad to think of that waste of a good track every time I see the gap in the trees where the track used to go.
Prost -Acer AP04 The last prost car in 2001. It was not all french like other prost car. The engine was Ferrari but the last versions from 2000 season
The new Hockenheimring is boring, there's nothing to it. The old one is an epic track. This shows that f1 are cutting everything down. They cut down the Nurburgring (by a LOT), they cut off a lot of Spa-Francorchamps, and modified Monza so it's easier to take on. It's boring now, no fun, Vettel is the new Schumacher, there's nothing to it.
It seems to me like he was always fighting that car under braking. Good lap, good driver, but every time he went into a corner it seemed like he was fighting the car, like it was going to go around. :-(
This Prost-Acer was quite a difficult car to drive. It had no power steering, making it more work to put the car on the right place in a corner than the other cars. it also was powered with the ferrari v10 from the year before. Alesi finished 6th in that race, courtesy of some others having problems. However props to Jean for showing that anyone can drive well, just the equipment makes others look better than the rest... (reminds me of schumacher)
@sas147741 old hockenheim was......straights and chicanes...it is challenge for pilots? :) new version is good but...i prefer some mix of "old and new layout" :) and tillke is bad architect for F1 so.... :(((
it was an extreme challenge for drivers. combination of high speed straights that required very low downforce setup and the slow, technical stadium section made it a unique challenge the drivers loved. nowadays hockenheim is just your average tilkedrome, with no unique features. sad
You drive with max speed. Into chicanes and max speed out. Cars had very low downforce to be fast. And then you had a slow stadium where you had to drive a F1 car without downforce trough corners.
This needed skills and balls.
And there character with these long straights trough the forrest and the great stadium with all the fans like in a huge soccer stadium.
I used to really look forward to watching the German GP on the old Hockenheim circuit. It was so incredibly sad when they chose to redesign it to the much shorter track...
@ 0:39, how can he shift, when he doesnt have is right hand on the steerign wheel? nice track btw, good old one. I was there this year (2010). I had to park my car on the old track! that was great, brings back old memories
The Prost team's wheel used a rocker system with the levers mounted on a central pivot. The driver could pull back on the right lever or push forward on the left lever to upshift.
Not on a rocker mount. You can push or pull from either side of the wheel to get an upshift or downshift.
McLaren now uses a similar system with a split lever on a rocker mount. The upper lever does the usual right/upshift, and left/downshift business. Under it is another rocker lever that does the opposite so the driver can work through the gears with the index and middle finger on one hand with other free to adjust things or use the clutch paddles.
i don't give up hope that one day in the future, some guys with too much money are going to bring the old layout back. i just want to listen again to that sound of a formula 1 speeding down the straights in that famous forest. it's so sad.
the thing is, it wasn't really bernie who destroyed that track. it was wrong management by some people with influence in hockenheim.
Such a better track than the new one, even though the new Hockenheim is a good track.
Ok, "it's too fast, blah, blah, blah", but tbh, that doesn't seem to be the problem. It's no faster than Monza. The problem seems to be the bumps. All they needed to do was fix the bumps, and perhaps make the chiccanes slow the cars down more.
Instead they build a new track! And it's not as if F1 could theoretically return to the old layout, as theyve replaced it with grass, and trees! =(
Look at the steering wheel - this car is so wobbly. I'd never even try to take it on a few laps, while Alesi was racing in it. And even scored some points!
oh yes i also remember he was nearly able to pass button but had to stay sixth. If raikkonen's suspension hadn't failed in japan that year he would've been classified in every race
heres another great track that had character and history which has been ruined,they went and spent millions on it and destroyed it from a great iconic formula one circuit into a go kart track....
I rember this race well.. last race in Prost GP for Alesi before moving to Jordan. Nice way to score a point in last race with the team. Alesi was one of the best drivers of F1!
Really really thank u for this video!!!Jean was one of the most talented drivers of his age, pushing on 110% even in his last year in F1...even on this decent Prost-Acer (Ferrari) on Michelin tyres
herman tilke is a dick!!!
lewkev23 4 days ago
i have this helmet!! but a replica :)
tomolart 2 weeks ago
the new hockenhiem sucks!
nordlingen 2 weeks ago
@nordlingen support you
EurekaNitroProject 2 weeks ago
This video has 0 dislikes for a reason! Absolutely brilliant track!
18sacky 3 weeks ago
I fucking worship this man, even when TCS was introduced he refused to use it.
AuroraAustraIis 1 month ago
What's the point keeping a long straight and three chikanes right into the woods? Every car goes about the same speed there, it's just pointless energy/fuel-wasting transport.
New Hockenheim = 100 times better
4JRimmer 1 month ago
@4JRimmer Go watch DTM then.
AuroraAustraIis 1 month ago
Does anyone like Bernie? He is such a cunt.
ThePhantomMajor 1 month ago 2
Fuck new hockenheim!
TheRailworldD443 1 month ago
You can see how responsive the stearing is. I bet at low speed that thing needs to do a 50 point turn to get around as well.
Pighaterskater 1 month ago
That steering wheel looks very awkward to hold.
jordieDAFC 1 month ago
@jordieDAFC That's the Alesi way.
sultanabran1 1 month ago
@jordieDAFC no alesi just had a weird grip . ten to two like a road car..
pvtdangles 1 month ago
@pvtdangles Ah ok, looks really uncomfortable :L
jordieDAFC 1 month ago
i miss this track...
ocsif111 2 months ago
Please old hockenheim. And please old v10
martinhoszabo 2 months ago
@martinhoszabo totallz agree ..but would never happen.
pvtdangles 1 month ago
Jean Alesi RESPECT!
n1kolakis28 2 months ago
Its funny how the new hockenheim ring was built FOR the fans... But we all loved the old one...
DBDMotorsports 2 months ago
The old spirit of the Forest :(
GamingAtGermany 2 months ago
instead of spending unnecessary money on new stupid circuit and creating stupid rules to try to bring some more emotion, why not bring the old circuit back
pauloelele 2 months ago
This is real F1! FUCK TILKE, FUCK ECCLESTONE!!
TheRailworldD443 2 months ago 5
I HATE HERMAN TILKE, HE IS A MOTHER FUCKER!!!
z5can7c3 3 months ago 7
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z5can7c3 3 months ago
It looks like he has no grip at all, look how much more they fought with the car then
cob141 3 months ago
im all for the new tack.... but they should have at least left the older one there and maintained it so it could be still raced on!
Nodsta1993 3 months ago
I went around the old track yesterday (bike) its mostly full with small trees, theres nothing there, absolutly nothing, apart from one straight. Such a shame!!!
hofbraeu1516 3 months ago
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Tilke is a cunt. To me all his tracks suck
redupfox 3 months ago
Tilke is a cunt. To be all his tracks suck
redupfox 3 months ago 3
It wasn't tilke who destroyed all the tracks, FIA told him to do such shit :(
DevinXXL 3 months ago
I miss the Prost team, nice blue cars...
Tsiartas10Greek 3 months ago
Rebuild this track now, just do it. And put a huge banner on every straight saying FUCK YOU HERMANN TILKE.
nitrotrigger 3 months ago 4
Bring back this circuit please!
art2000cc 3 months ago
we want the old track and V10 motors
TheMisterantivirus 3 months ago
New track is very shit.. We wont the old track!!!
TheRailworldD443 4 months ago 4
Fuck, I miss the Old layout of Hockeinheim :(
EldubeG25 4 months ago
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laughinclown88 4 months ago
from 0:13 to 0:30 FLAT THROTTLE (better than Monza )
TheNFSRocket 4 months ago
Nice ! good old times , unfortunately they kill F-1 in 2005. today is so boring :´(
skarloff 5 months ago 2
@skarloff agree :(
kennycko 5 months ago
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LuddXGaming 5 months ago
the sound baby the SOUND!
Insanaty 5 months ago
that's a nice sound of v10's
vitorgt5 5 months ago
i love the way he used to hold steering wheel and i miss old hockenheim :(
guitman201 6 months ago
oooh good old times
africanjungle52 6 months ago
grrrrr
I like cheese
MrKillerVomit 7 months ago
goodbye v 10!!!!
snakesolidmgs1 7 months ago in playlist F1 onboards
Alesi pilot is not very good but has attitude like everyone else should have at this time
thomas1998ist 8 months ago
It was obvious that a track redesign was on the cards at Hockenheim, but I think everyone was surprised when they tore up the old track section. It still makes me sad to think of that waste of a good track every time I see the gap in the trees where the track used to go.
cbraxxas 8 months ago 4
@cbraxxas I look at that gap in the trees every time im there, and think the same thing!!!
TheEngland72 4 weeks ago
spa. old hockenheim, monza. !!!! best tracks
vprmn 8 months ago 28
@vprmn
Wrong.Spa, Old Hockenheim,Monza and Nurburgring Nordschelfe best tracks.
pufflescpbw 2 months ago
@pufflescpbw old nurburgring is boring to view. but nice track to drive ;)
vprmn 2 months ago
@vprmn and the old silverstone
2willboi 5 days ago
Old Hockenheim? = tonnes better than the new one.
djdavedoc 8 months ago 3
Now I have seen Jean Alesi to work in LOTUS F1
kalamatamusic 8 months ago
Prost -Acer AP04 The last prost car in 2001. It was not all french like other prost car. The engine was Ferrari but the last versions from 2000 season
kalamatamusic 8 months ago
HOCKENHEIM ANTIGO ERA TUDO!! ESSE NOVO TRAÇADO É UM LIXO!! PODIAM TIRAR DO CALENDARIO NEM IA FAZER FALTA
littleboy43 8 months ago
APOIADO,A NOVA PISTA NAO PRESTA!!!!!
vitorgt5 6 months ago
@vitorgt5 A pista nova,não presta,os motores V8 são rídiculos.
Tenho saudades desse tempo
douglashudson3111 6 months ago
The new Hockenheimring is boring, there's nothing to it. The old one is an epic track. This shows that f1 are cutting everything down. They cut down the Nurburgring (by a LOT), they cut off a lot of Spa-Francorchamps, and modified Monza so it's easier to take on. It's boring now, no fun, Vettel is the new Schumacher, there's nothing to it.
IshPro1 8 months ago 3
We all miss the old Hockenheim Ring...
LuxeXx 8 months ago 33
@LuxeXx If googled images of the old track in its current state, you would cry. Grass has grown all over the old track.
sultanabran1 1 month ago
It seems to me like he was always fighting that car under braking. Good lap, good driver, but every time he went into a corner it seemed like he was fighting the car, like it was going to go around. :-(
F1god04 9 months ago
Jean Alesi is a very good driver, thanks for the lap. =-)
HMJogMDG 9 months ago
too bad because much of the old hockenheim-ring is now a forest
emmansteady 9 months ago
watch 0:38 auto gear box lol
ironryan9999 9 months ago
His helmet makes it look like a game.
dabest2500 9 months ago
This Prost-Acer was quite a difficult car to drive. It had no power steering, making it more work to put the car on the right place in a corner than the other cars. it also was powered with the ferrari v10 from the year before. Alesi finished 6th in that race, courtesy of some others having problems. However props to Jean for showing that anyone can drive well, just the equipment makes others look better than the rest... (reminds me of schumacher)
DJmeistergeist 10 months ago
GOD I miss those days. I dont even watch hockenheim anymore because the new layout sucks so bad!
feefish001 10 months ago
com'era bello il vecchio hockenheim
da86vi 10 months ago 3
can't believe that they changed the Hockenhiem - Ring from this. It's much more exciting than the new track...
filippone55157 11 months ago
@filippone55157 and much more dangerous...
PESglockfan14 9 months ago
(Joking)
nickJod1234 11 months ago
I'm disappointed with Peogeot for hiding this car from me after our agreement. Im a green-environmentalist by the way.
nickJod1234 11 months ago
Yeah you understood me wrong. Off course they dont take the chikanes with max car speed. But with the highest speed you can take them.
ledaf41 1 year ago
I love sound of these old F1 cars..
kubynek1990 1 year ago
HOLY HELL! WHAT A SOUND!!
Max your Volume. Make this Fullscreen. And be part of the great old days of F1!!
ledaf41 1 year ago 3
Good old times - i miss those purple Prost Peugeot
bluecipo91 1 year ago
I stop watching Formula 1 after they turned the best track of the season into a karting track...
sas147741 1 year ago
@sas147741 old hockenheim was......straights and chicanes...it is challenge for pilots? :) new version is good but...i prefer some mix of "old and new layout" :) and tillke is bad architect for F1 so.... :(((
vprmn 1 year ago
@vprmn
it was an extreme challenge for drivers. combination of high speed straights that required very low downforce setup and the slow, technical stadium section made it a unique challenge the drivers loved. nowadays hockenheim is just your average tilkedrome, with no unique features. sad
Montreal95 1 year ago
@vprmn
Yes it was a big challenge.
You drive with max speed. Into chicanes and max speed out. Cars had very low downforce to be fast. And then you had a slow stadium where you had to drive a F1 car without downforce trough corners.
This needed skills and balls.
And there character with these long straights trough the forrest and the great stadium with all the fans like in a huge soccer stadium.
Unique!
ledaf41 1 year ago
@ledaf41
Maybe i understand you wrong, or you have wright wrong, but all the Chikanes at Hockenheim was 1st Gear Corners about 80-90Kmh...
The Cars breake 130 Meters before the Chikane.
So no they dont take the Chikanes with Max Speed...
kallo182 1 year ago
i love the sound of the v10 bikes, way better than those v8's
lennardf1 1 year ago
about 350 km/h yeaaa
11mirza7 1 year ago
I used to really look forward to watching the German GP on the old Hockenheim circuit. It was so incredibly sad when they chose to redesign it to the much shorter track...
Nick7575757575 1 year ago
automatic shift up?
wth?
tera90s 1 year ago
@tera90s
Electro-hydraulic gearbox with paddle actuation.
The upshift and downshift levers are located behind the steering wheel in proximity to the driver's index and middle fingers.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
Special configuration.... blah blah blah, it's a shame.
jeffsvilleusa 1 year ago
not the lap of perfection but wow the v10 sounds amazing, wish they didnt get rid of them
scotty160 1 year ago 4
Herman Tilke needs to be shot ASAP
TheRooster94 1 year ago 26
@TheRooster94
Tilke induced processional races are killing F1 more than the FIA is.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago 2
@TheRooster94 :]]]]]]
vprmn 3 months ago
This car is a bitch to drive - just look how shaky is the steering wheel comparing to other 2001 cars.
And Alesi scored points in it!
(Worth mentioning that these - with Canada and Monaco - were the only points for Prost in this season)
TakBardzoKwasny 1 year ago 2
@ 0:39, how can he shift, when he doesnt have is right hand on the steerign wheel? nice track btw, good old one. I was there this year (2010). I had to park my car on the old track! that was great, brings back old memories
Kabaampje444 1 year ago
@Kabaampje444
The Prost team's wheel used a rocker system with the levers mounted on a central pivot. The driver could pull back on the right lever or push forward on the left lever to upshift.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@PulletSurprise hmm.... this explains better, unfortunatly a great shift system in a not so great car, thanks Pullet, I didn't know. ;D
tera90s 1 year ago
@PulletSurprise shifting up with left paddle? you mean downshift isnt it?
vprmn 1 year ago
@vprmn
Not on a rocker mount. You can push or pull from either side of the wheel to get an upshift or downshift.
McLaren now uses a similar system with a split lever on a rocker mount. The upper lever does the usual right/upshift, and left/downshift business. Under it is another rocker lever that does the opposite so the driver can work through the gears with the index and middle finger on one hand with other free to adjust things or use the clutch paddles.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
Fuck you Tilke!
Guitardeca 1 year ago 19
Like the sound of this engins :))) awesome :)))
avalon1399 1 year ago 3
i miss the v10 era :( sounds freakin awesome!!
otristram 1 year ago 3
i odnt understand why they would get rid of this racetrack. like wow really?
youngdeezy1990 1 year ago 2
the new hockenheim is a shit best the old.
MotolympicRacing 1 year ago 6
i don't give up hope that one day in the future, some guys with too much money are going to bring the old layout back. i just want to listen again to that sound of a formula 1 speeding down the straights in that famous forest. it's so sad.
the thing is, it wasn't really bernie who destroyed that track. it was wrong management by some people with influence in hockenheim.
mathee77 1 year ago
Such a better track than the new one, even though the new Hockenheim is a good track.
Ok, "it's too fast, blah, blah, blah", but tbh, that doesn't seem to be the problem. It's no faster than Monza. The problem seems to be the bumps. All they needed to do was fix the bumps, and perhaps make the chiccanes slow the cars down more.
Instead they build a new track! And it's not as if F1 could theoretically return to the old layout, as theyve replaced it with grass, and trees! =(
RoLLWithITOasis1 1 year ago
Look at the steering wheel - this car is so wobbly. I'd never even try to take it on a few laps, while Alesi was racing in it. And even scored some points!
TakBardzoKwasny 1 year ago
another track ruined by bernie and company
swingAE86 1 year ago
what i want to know is why did they rip it up anyway. they could've built the new tighter layout and used this one for something too.
on another note LISTEN TO THAT CAR!!!
Jimmybobby1994 1 year ago
What a circuit Hockenheim was! Can we please have it back in its former glory?
This current "circuit" doesn't cut it.
schuf1 1 year ago
@schuf1 Yes please, the actuañ circuit is crap.
drc911 1 year ago
i like more this than the newest.
EFRANEED 1 year ago 4
Never noticed his high grip on the steering wheel til today
vertigo8 1 year ago 5
@vertigo8 Yep, its a remaining from his carting days. Thats something they teach you there, Alesi always kept his driving like that.
nzoplkj 1 year ago
@vertigo8 Yeah! I remember watching the 1995 Monaco grand pix and Carlos Reutemann was commenting how high he grabbed de wheel. Unique style!
magknight 1 year ago
@magknight It would be awkward to change gears too lol
vertigo8 1 year ago
That looks horrible to drive! He is constantly fighting it through the corners. I like Jean Alesi. Great driver!
damonsmedley1 1 year ago 6
@damonsmedley1 The 2001 Prost was a dog of a car. But Alesi had the talent and skill to drive it on the limit. :)
tugatomsk 1 year ago 6
oh yes i also remember he was nearly able to pass button but had to stay sixth. If raikkonen's suspension hadn't failed in japan that year he would've been classified in every race
thestonecoldandy 1 year ago 3
heres another great track that had character and history which has been ruined,they went and spent millions on it and destroyed it from a great iconic formula one circuit into a go kart track....
hottotrot75 1 year ago 7
Alesi always hold the wheel high
xD
Very good driver, amazing V10.
leo1fun 1 year ago 2
this sound is music in my ears.
great driving and a great legendery track.
R.I.P Hockenheim Circuit
ledaf41 1 year ago 6
I rember this race well.. last race in Prost GP for Alesi before moving to Jordan. Nice way to score a point in last race with the team. Alesi was one of the best drivers of F1!
Perussaataja 1 year ago 5
The V10's just sounded sooo much more alive than the current V8's.
XR4turbo 2 years ago 3
Good old Alesi !!! Even when he was having to put up with poor machinery. He would still drive it to the max, even if it meant not scoring point !!!
Plus i really miss the old classic Hockenheim-Ring layout, it had so much character. The current layout is just so bleeding boring !!!
X24RIDER 2 years ago 74
I was playing F1C on PS2, infact it's a Prost Peugeot one-two in the game when Alesi won at Hockenheim.
18PacWest 2 years ago 36
That's Tilke for ya...
XR4turbo 2 years ago 3
Really really thank u for this video!!!Jean was one of the most talented drivers of his age, pushing on 110% even in his last year in F1...even on this decent Prost-Acer (Ferrari) on Michelin tyres
ablracing 2 years ago 5
very nice the good old v10 ;)
506dennis 2 years ago 2
thanks. :)
jorgicsek 2 years ago 2