From a strictly linguistic point of view "Macedonian" can be called a Bulgarian dialect, as structurally it is most similar to Bulgarian.
"Encyclopedia of Language and Linguistics", Keith Brown, 1994
but of course state propaganda teaces Fyroms people that their Bulgarian dialect is related ancient Macedonian(that was a Greek dialect). Poor poor people totally lost
But we don't ask that teritory back from you, just leave us to live in peace, and to keep progress in all International and European organizations etc.
But you also know that you don't speak same language as Ancient Greeks(Hellens)(Hellenic language or Ancient Greek language), if you think that you speak same language as Ancient Greeks then you are insane.
Your bigest problem is that you have taken Macedonian teritory(territory who was never yours before 19 centery and now you want to make it yours), you have twinges of conscience, because you have made many villainy on that territory, same is the situation with Bulgarians.
During Byzantine Era Makedonia was a part of Greece and Thessaloniki was the spiritual and trading centre of the Byzantine Empire. Thessaloniki was the Second City of the Empire and gained the honorary title of "Symvasilevousa" [the co-reigning city].
During Roman Empire Makedonia was a part of Greece.
Under the Romans GREECE was seperated in TWO provinces, ACHAIA and MAKEDONIA. The province Achaia included Peloponnese and the rest of the southern parts of Greece till the periphery of Makedonia and had as capital CORINTH.
The Romans were those who separated Greece in 2 Provinces, ACHAIA and MAKEDONIA.
"Macedonia and Achaia" generally means the whole of Greece (Acts 19:21; Rom 15:26; 1 Thess 1:8)
" ...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
I don't say that A.Macedonian language is the same with today Macedonian language, because we were under many occupations (and you too) but I believe that there are many similarities, and that today Macedonian is the most related with Ancient Macedonian, and then with Slavic(because Slavs came on Balkan in 5-6 centery and they mixed with the local population).
But still there are many proves that prove that A.Macedonians eachother spoke different not hellenic language.
Then Alexandar understood that he have made big mistake, with his decision, because Hellens were doing propaganda under all Macedonian teritories, because language is the basic weapon for propaganda.
Why Macedonians were called barbarians by Hellens?
Because they didn't have written language(alphabet), and Alexander adopted Greek language as official language in his empire, because Alexander was wise man and he knew that if he want big empire, then he need a good language, and he knew that Greek language was way better then A.Macedonian in that time, and A.Macedonian was rarely used(used just between A.Macedonians).
And Alexander also spoke a mysterious, unknown, secret, undiscovered language, of which none since thousands of yrs ever heard anything about, THO HE REACHED TILL INDIA, but.. the university of Skopje will now prove that the Rosetta stone is proto-slavic.
in every region where Greek was the native language A DIALECT EVOLVED, so was it in Attica, same in Peloponnese, same in Ionia and the same is true for Makedonia :-)
One example: In Ionia the sea was called Thalassa and in Makedonia the sea was called Dalassa.
Most of them were exterminated in the regime of the greek dictator Ioannis Metaxas, and many of them were drived out from Greece as civil war victims but there are still some of them in Aegean Macedonian(Northern Greece)!
You are scared because you think that we have territory aspirations at your country, everyone know that, but you should understand that something like that do not exist, maybe just in some ultra nationalistic circles of people.
@CoolJegerJ Ur Grandpas said theyre bulgars, so u must say that Greeks arent Greeks. U speak a Bulgarian dialect, so u have to say that the Greek language isnt Greek.
@CoolJegerJ Your nationalist definately have aspiration to my country.
Look at your schools what they are learning to your young people.
Ioannis Metaxas bravely fought against the nazi's-italians en your brother's the bulgars,
and won the respect of Hitler himself which your fathers welcomed them.
And the greek civil war was made by betraytors communists which was killing with conserve boxes, and wanted to make greece a soviet province.Fortunately, they didn't succed like with u for example
you gayreeks now will dreem with europeanS dick in your ass that you aetiopean garbidge will save your bankrot republik Gayrek .And who will give to you money for your propaganda you gypsi garbidge.Look you in mirror and think how aleksanders skin is not black like your gypsy skin
fuck all you greek motherfuckers, do what you cunts do best and take it up the ass u greek cunts, alexander was maco nothing different you, you hairy motherfuckers!!!
First look at your self negro-hellen hahaha , you(Greeks) and Bulgarians are the blackest nations in Europe, you are like gypsies, and we are not saying noting about that because we are not racists, and you are still provoking. You should shut your mount and understand that we are mix between Ancient Macedonians and Slavic tribes who came later on these territories, but all genetic analyses say that we have more then 70% with ancient Macedonian gens.
And you should ask your self what are you, because i think that you are little more black for Hellens, maybe you(Greeks) are white in Athens, but islands and half Greece are inhabited by semi-black people who looks like gypsies.
Same for Bulgarians!
That is the truth, and the truth sometimes hurts!
We know who we are and we are proud of our identity, but do you know who you are?
And please stop with this propaganda about Macedonia!
@CoolJegerJ I AM white of race, MACEDONIAN BY BLOOD LANGUAGE & HERRITAGE All our Macedonian history is recorded & presents an unbroken continuity MY GRANDFATHERS WERE MACOS long b4 1945 I AM AN ELLIN MY COUNTRY IS ELLAS MY NATIONALITY IS ELLENIC MY COUNTRY IS ELLAS I RESPECT MOTHERLAND ELLAS EXACTLY LIKE Megas ALEXANDROS EXACTLY LIKE REAL MACEDONIA I LIVE IN REAL MACEDONIA ELLAS I SPEAK ELLENIC EXACTLY LIKE Megas ALEXANDROS did
If you want to find out what is the truth and who are real Macedonians you should come in Republic of Macedonia and then you should go in Aegean Macedonian(Northern Greece) and then you should find out(if you wish of course :D)
@CoolJegerJ don't know what is happening but i stil get an error when i try to answer your nonsense. They are so many, jesus, i need to write the whole night.
@CoolJegerJ Without bad feelings,i don't have smthing personal with you,and rest slavic citizens of vardar region.From your childhood you're all victims of shameless, payed propagandists who try to alter and usurp the history of our Greek Makedonia for their own reasons.
@CoolJegerJ Sorry, but to come to your country to do what? look for history? A visit to the macedonian museum in my city, Thessaloniki gives me enough information already. You, really should visit it sometime...
And, another reason that i will never visit your country is that if they put to my passport a stamp with "republika makedonija" then i will have to burn it and pay for another...
@CoolJegerJ Part1:Sorry, but this story of your's about your language is a big fake.
Your language is the latest in balkan - mid-20th century, which was founded, as you know, by Tito in 1944. This is a Bulgarian language (the original population of the region were Bulgarian and Bulgarians always claimed this area considered their own - indeed the people of the region called Bugari3 «Bulgarians»!).
@CoolJegerJ Part2: Is made with purely artificial manner, set up by a group of linguists with basis of bulgarian introduced to vocabulary and grammatical elements from the surrounding areas who spoke Serbian, in order to reduce the Bulgarian nature of the language and gain Serbian linguistic form, which was a requirement of a united Serbia of Tito.So,the language in Skopje is a servobulgarian dialect, an artificial serv-made-bulgarian, imposed as an official language for obvious reasons...
@CoolJegerJ Part3:Bulgarians called it «kolisefskiki» language as design and execution of scopian political Kolisefski!. Skopjans gave to this bulgaro-servian language the misleading name «Macedonsky» to avoid the Bulgarian claims and to hide along the Bulgarian origin of language and to lend their prestige and historical depth (through bogus identification with the glorious and world-famous name of Alexander the Great of Macedonia. That is the schientific truth about your language
First let make it clear about the language, bulgarian language is dialect of Macedonian language, maybe it sounds strange, but it is true, because when Bulgarians(Tatars-Mongols) come on Balkan from Tatarstan, they were spoke some Old Tatar language, today know as Old Bulgarian(you should explore about this), but local population in Macedonia was already setlled Macedonian Slavs and Ancient Macedonians mixed and have already made their own language...
Because Macedonian Slavs come on Balkan in 5-6 century and mixed with the local population, but Tatars(Old Bulgarians) come on Balkan 7-8 century, first they spoke on Old Bulgarian, but then they remelt with the local population on their territory: Thracians and Slavs.
First Bulgarians(Tatars, Thracians and Slavs) and Macedonians(Anceient Macedonians and Slavs) fought each-other but Macedonians were supported by Byzantium and defeated the Tatars, and Tatars adopted Macedonian Slavic and with years Old Bulgarian extincted.
That is how Bulgarian language was made, of course there are many differences between Macedonian and Bulgarian language because the languages evoluated with years and Bulgarian adopted many words from Old Bulgarian.
That is why Bulgarians speak our language, but we are not same people.
That is why Bulgarians want Macedonia, because their language originate from Macedonia.
Solun(Thessalonian) Brothers Cyril and Methodius(they were also priests) made the first official Macedonian Slav alphabet, the alphabet was refined by their best students from Ohrid Clement and Naum(they were also priests). Today their alphabet is used by all slav speaking and slav writing nations(Russia, Ukraine, Belarus etc).
One more reason why Bulgarians want to take Macedonia from us and why they consider us Bulgarians, because they don't have history.
@CoolJegerJ Let me make something clear: The ancient Macedonians were Dorian Greeks who entered the area of Macedonia at about 1100 B.C., long before any Slavic population appeared in that part of the world
Macedonians had Greek names
All the ancient Macedonian names mentioned in history or found on tombs are Greek. All the kings of Ancient Macedonia had Greek names. Nobody discovered ancient Macedonian names ending to -ov or -ovski or whatever.
@CoolJegerJ Macedonians spoke a dialect of the Greek language.
all the monuments and inscriptions found in the Macedonia are written using the Greek language. There is no historic evidence to suggest that the Macedonians were using a different language.
There is no historic evidence to suggest that the Macedonians were using a different language, because that language is extincted, but we Macedonians, you Greeks most probably using some words of that language.
"The ancient Macedonians were Dorian Greeks", you consider ancient Macedonians as Greeks because everything what is Macedonian you consider as Greek, you cant see the difference because you are like blinded on that matter.
@CoolJegerJ Excuse me, but i am getting little tyred of that discussion.Here, read please the schientific evidence on these, not greek, fully independent and schientific topic which officially presented to us president: macedonia-evidence(.)org/obama-letter and macedonia-evidence.(org)/documentation Cheers..
The division of the Greek tribe of Makednoi had as result the DORIANS and the MAGNETES
Herodotos 1.56
The Hellenic nation...in the days of king Deukalion inhabited the land of Fthia,then in the time of Doros (son) of Hellen the country called Istiaiotis,under Ossa & Olympos. Forced to retire from Istiaiotis by the Kadmeians,it settled about Pindos under the name MAKEDNON.Thence again it migrated to Dryopis & at last came from Dryopis into Peloponnesos where it took the name DORIAN"
Alexander reached from Europe to Egypt, till INDIA! where is his slavoturkalbanian language?! no inscriptions? no sources?? not even a little coin?! lol
Titus Livius, From the Foundation of the City 31
"The Aitolians, the Akarnanians, the Macedonians, men of the same speech ..."
"After this Alexandros left Dareios's mother, his daughters, and his son in Susa, providing them with persons to teach them the HELLENIC DIALECT,..."
@CoolJegerJ Finishing the disscussion,i would like to say that of course,everyone has his opinion and the right to say it,but facts can not be just denied.I bother about the scopian issue because i am ellin macedonian,my home is here and i will defend it to the end.To change your name,maybe will not be neccesery after some years because there is a big chance that your fragile republic will tear apart from the ethnic problems inside it.Until that time, be well and just OPEN your eyes. Fr. regards
@CoolJegerJ Cyrilus and Methodius were 2 greek monniks which was send by byzantine keizer Ioustinianos the 7-8th century b.c. to the area of today's yugoslavia, specially to make a writen language of their language, because until that time slavic populations only had spoken and not written language. And to make them christians so that they stop attacking the byzantine empire.
@CoolJegerJ Kyrillos and Methodios, they used half greek alphabet and they invented 14-15 new signs(letters) and they made writen the slavic language which is similar with todays servo-croatian. Schientist say that that was the basic slavic language from which the rest dialects came like bulgarians, russians, ukraine's etc
I don't have noting personally against Greece or against any citizen from Greece, but i don't agree with you, and i think that you are people influenced by propaganda, and i don't have intentions to go in Greece, because they will put post mark FYROM on my passport.
@CoolJegerJ No, you get brainwashed from shameless propagantists who try to false history and steal identity. Solun yealled the barbarians-slavs when attacted the city.Thessaloniki is the name, sister of Alexander the great.Thousands of evidence, historical and political facts, nothing kan make your eyes open...you seemed like north koreans, so bad is the brainwash in you fragile republic...
PS: Alexander the Great spoke hellenic language(in that time hellenic language was international language, as today english) because macedonian in that time was barbarian language(language without alphabet) from that language every proof extincted and most probably some words are today in our languages. First written Macedonian language was Macedonian church slavonic or also known as Old Macedonian who originates from Solun(Thessalonica) region, that language was made in 7-8 century.
You should talk with the local population and you will conclude that people who live in nowadays Aegean Macedonian(Northern Greece) are Christian Turks or Greeks(who came from Turkey with convention in 1923 population exchange between Greece and Turkey) and Dopi(Natives), Slavophone Macedonians, Slavophone Greeks(so called by the Greeks) or just Macedonians.
Lol Macedonia is not Hellas, if it was they'd speak your language as that if what defined Hellenistic cultures. Alexander was a greek but you guys lost the ability to claim that region a long time ago
Greeks got slaughtered by Alexander of Macedon. In all history books there is a clear distinction between the barbarian Alexander and a Greek! You big malaka's worship your killer!! hang on a minute... that fits Kokstas to a tea.
Uhm, whatever...The whole of Greek antiquity is characterized by Alliance and Enmity between Greeks themselves
Wars between Greeks:
Spartans against Messenians, Argeioi against Spartans, Spartans against Tegheate, Athenians and their allies against Spartans and their allies, Athenians against Meghareis, Athenians against the Melos island, Ionian navy against the Athenian-Spartan navy at Salamis, Corinthians against Meghareis, Aetolians against Focaeis, Boeoteans against Thessalians,->
Achaeoi and Macedonians against Aetolians etc. The spartan Lyssander destroyed Athens, the Athenians destroyed Melos and the Thebans the city of Plateae etc.
The Greece never existed before 1832. First city states fighting each other, then Macedonian slavery, then Roman slavery, then Turkish slavery and finally QUOTE: "Otto, prince of Bavaria or Othon, king of Greece was made the first modern King of Greece in 1832 under the Convention of London, whereby Greece became a new independent kingdom under the protection of the Great Powers (the United Kingdom, France and the Russian Empire)."
@MrMKCA Greece existed before 1832. It wasnt like Greece we know now but it existed in Several States. Alexander the Great was part of uniting all States to form the Country of Greece rather than Greek States. Greece received independence in 1821 and since then has been part of many treaties which divided land to Greece and land to others. Greece has always existed, dating back to Ancient times.. just not in the form we now know it...
@im1hecticwog France and a couple of other countries brang the states together your such a dumbass and the funny part is where the hell did you greeks pull all this bullshit out from.
@istoriify look whoes talking, your fake macedonian country(vardaska) claim to be desendents of the ancient macedonians(greeks) but your not ,you are slavs.slavs are turks who turned christian during the first crusade.the macedonia in the word fyrom doent mean hisoracly but geograhael.modern day greeks are desendents of the ancient greeks and vardaskins(fyromians) are christian turks or slavs LEARN YOUR HISTORY VARDASKIN! MACEDONIA IS GREEK!!!
@GreekKid123321 Instead of trying to prove that the ancient Macedonians were "Greek", these Greeks who like to argue about their Greek-ness should look at their own relationship to the ancient "Greeks".
@istoriify i dont need to prove the fact that the ancient macedonians were greek because they are and thers D.N.A evedence that modern greeks are desendents of the ancient greeks(that inclouds macedonia) and thers absolutly no proof at all that slavs are desendents of the ancient macedonians but thers proof that there greek.try using another source of information instead of your published propaganda
The word "greek" derives from the latin word "graecus" and not from Grex-Gregis = thief etc. LMAO. Graecus derives from the greek name "graikos" - the greek dipthong "AI" is always translated as "AE" in latin.
GRAEKOS son of Thessalos and greatgrandson of Pelasgos.
Etymology:
"Graios" contraction of the word "Geraios" (Ge+reo).
Graios, Graikos has the meaning of "old autochthonous"
Greece was also called Graia (Graia, Gaia = earth).
@OrphicHymn ΤΟ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΟ ΚΡΑΤΟΣ ΚΑΤΕΒΑΛΕ ΤΕΡΑΣΤΙΑ ΠΡΟΣΠΑΘΕΙΑ ΓΙΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΤΙΚΑΤΑΣΤΑΣΗ ΤΗΣ ΛΕΞΗΣ ΓΡΕΚΟΣ ΜΕ ΤΗΝ ΛΕΞΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΛΟΓΩ ΤΗΣ ΑΠΑΞΙΩΤΙΚΗΣ ΕΝΝΟΙΑΣ ΤΗΣ ΠΡΩΤΗΣ ΣΤΟΝ ΔΥΤΙΚΟ ΚΟΣΜΟ
@OrphicHymn The germans made your flag and your name stopping spitting out bullshit with that filthy mouth fuck i hope greeks like you burn in hell. God knows what the truth is. the dumbass world cant see that macedonia is right but God knowsyou greeks keep that thought
You will find Bulgarians and Turks who call themselves Macedonians, you find Greek Macedonians, there are Servian Macedonians, and it is possible to find Roumanians Macedonians. You will NOT, however, find a single Christian Macedonian who is not a Servian, a Bulgarian, a Greek, or a Roumanian.
The modern Greeks are largely of Slavic origin. They are not the descendents of the ancient Greeks. That noble race, greatly mixed with barbarian blood during the middle ages, was almost completely destroyed in the course of the frequent uprisings against Turkish rule. Slavic immigrants gradually repopulated the country." ("The Popular Science Monthly", edited by J. McKeen Cattell", Volume LXXV, July to December 1909, page 591.)
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel,probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted."
@GreekKid123321 Did the Greeks constitute a race apart from the Albanians the Slavs and the Vlachs? Yes and no. High school students were told that the ´other races´, i.e. the Slavs the Albanians and the Vlachs ´having been Hellenized with the years in terms of mores and customs, are now being assimilated into the Greeks´." ("Greece in the 20th Century", Editors Theodore A. Couloumbis, Theodore Kariots, Fotini Bellou, page 24.)
@istoriify woooow is this the stuff they teach you in vardaska?or are you pretending to be smart? modern day greeks are 100 percent decenents of the ancient greeks(THAT INCLOUDS MACEDONIA) and vardaskans or slavs are turks who turned christian during the first crusade LEARN YOUR HISTORY VARDASKIN AND MACEDONIA WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE GREEK!
i liked very much seeing the albanians protesting about the name. " DONT FYROM ME CALL ME ILIRIDA! " the media were so pleased to see this! looool what a joke! most of the population ADMITS that they have no connection the the one and real macedonia that is IN GREECE! ILIRIDA OR WEST BULGARIA time to choose, vardaska, or kingdom of prilep or whatever!
Slavic peoples are classified geographically and linguistically into West Slavic (including Czechs, Poles, Silesians, Slovaks and Sorbs), East Slavic (including Belarusians, Russians and Ukrainians),[8] and South Slavic (including Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs and Slovenes).
if you have nothing to show for, you hang on to the past for dear life. no matter who you think your ancestors were, today you are a backward people full of nationalistic hypocrisy, ignorance and stupidity. you are the descendants of ali pasha and mehmet gioutahi either you like it or not. your heritage is in the way you behave and think. you are today's barbarians. alexander made a living conquering and pillaging the likes of you.
@dexameron says the 2.000.000 population "country" with 40% unemployment and 600.000 albanians, 200.000 greeks and thousands of turks, serbs and bulgars LOLSKI
what are you discussing guys .. lots of things happened after olypic games.. greeks are not the ancient greeks.. macedonians are not the sons of alexander.. turks are not turks from asia.. what are you fighting for ?
Πέντε αιώνες αργότερα το 1893 Βούλγαρoι ιδρύουν την τότε ("Български Македоно-Одрински революционни комитети (БМОРК) / Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committee (BMARC)"") – "Βουλγάρικη Επαναστατική `Eνωση Μακεδονίας-´Aδριανούπολις" το μετέπειτα ΒΜΡΟ ( Вътрешна македонска революционна организация / Vatreshna Makedonska Revolyutsionna Organizatsiya (ВМРО) ) –
) – "Εσωτερική ( Βουλγάρικη ) Μακεδονική Επαναστατική Οργάνωση" και ξεκινάει έτσι ο αγώνας για την εθνική ανεξαρτησία. Μολονότι ο εθνικιστής ηγέτης Γκότσε Ντέλτσσεφ (Goce Delčev) από το Κιλκίς πέθανε πριν την εξέγερση του
Πέντε αιώνες αργότερα το 1893 Βούλγαρoι ιδρύουν την τότε ("Български Македоно-Одрински революционни комитети (БМОРК) / Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committee (BMARC)"") – "Βουλγάρικη Επαναστατική `Eνωση Μακεδονίας-´Aδριανούπολις" το μετέπειτα ΒΜΡΟ ( Вътрешна македонска революционна организация / Vatreshna Makedonska Revolyutsionna Organizatsiya (ВМРО) ) – "Ε
If the Macedones OWN account of themselves and their origins, in their OWN beleif of their ethno-genesis as GREEKS IS NOT enough....
The thousands of archeological discoveries spanning three continents, the Roman,Indian and Persian sources and of course the oldest tablet found in Macedon in the 6th century documenting an undetested DORIC DIALECT OF GREEK should be more than enough, even from FASCISTS from the former yugoslav republic of pannonia (vardarska)
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks [...]
We recognize the republic of Macedonia we also recognize the historic Hellenic province Macedonia in the agean (Greece) which is much larger than the republic of Macedonia. The republic has no valid claim to the historic agean Macedonia which consists of Hellenic heroes like Alexander the great and other Hellenic legends.
It will provide scientific evidence that the ancient Macedonians: hired mercenaries from Greece, and used by the Greeks and foreign allies. Greek cities razed.
the Greek inhabitants sold as slaves. Greek cities pillaged and burnt and the countryside. Greek garrison cities (a sure sign of servitude).
That the ancient Macedonians did not regard the Greeks as their relatives. Alexander the Great was a Greek king, the Greeks did not regard as kin. Alexander the Macedonian Army was not a Greek army. The conquest of Alexander of Macedonia was not a Greek conquest. Ancient Macedonians were just that - Macedonians and the Greeks looked with contempt.
2013 A.D. Third Balkan War. The end of Greece. 100 years after the 1913 Bucarest Treaty, a new unavoidable war will solve old disputes and impair justice in Balkans.
@pwincezz54 Contrary to the modern demands Greek Macedonia was never part of Greece and the ancient Macedonians were not considered as the ancient Greeks. Quite the contrary - the Macedonians conquered Greece and the Greeks enslaved for centuries until Rome conquered Macedonia in 168 BC
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
only 32 percent of Athenian citizens have Hellenic and even Arab origin. iGENEA further explains that 31 percent of Greek citizens have Celtic roots, 19 percent Germanic and Slavic origin, while 18% have Turkish and Illyrian roots.
ALL food products that are stamped with a Circle U or a Triangle K . This is a special tax that's included in the price of the item which goes to Israel! WAKE UP PEOPLE !! You're funding Murder and don't even know it. !!
Write to the companies and tell them. Most employees of these companies do not know what these symbols mean. The tax is extorted through the organized crime syndicate of the Rabbis and gets funneled back to Israel.
I guess skopians are just too stupid to realize that they are Slav. Soon their time will come to an end. They are trying to rob Greece of their history and culture. Trying trying trying. Buy they can't because the world knows the truth about ancient Greek history which has been told for thousands of years.
Skopians wake up you fools. The world is watching you.
There cannot be any peace with such provocations from blinded fools..harsh but simple..my great great grandfather, told my great grandfather, who told my grandfather, who told my father, who told me that we were Martians..should I believe such fairytales or actually pick up a book, read and learn about History? Ignorance is bliss!!
@TheKameleon80 Its clear who is giving the provocations, I know history about this region more than you and all your buddies here put together, the thing is that the people are so mixed up and raveled that no one can prove anything. Greece didn't have problem with our name while we were in federation, the problem came when we become independent country. Don't worry no one wants your territory that 100 years ago was full with Macedonians that you killed and drive out of their homes!
This Greek letters Α,Γ,Δ,Ζ,Θ,Λ,Ξ,Π,Ω are in the grave of King Filippos (ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) in Pella. What you are trying to do ? You are trying to succed Titos plan to save FYROM land from Bulgaria..? History is written in the ancient marbles not in the history books of Tito..MAKEDONIA was a Greek Kingdom, so Greek as the Athenians,Spartans,Cretan,Aegean cities,Korinthians,Thessaly,Epirus.. Uneducated
Anyone with half a brain can see, who the real Macedoniandescendants are. Varduscans have no link, just gypsy traditions mixed with bulgar or should i say burglar .
We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. Thats who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD).
Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me!... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov
hahahaha... what a moron. what are you? a parrot? this is your explanation about makedonia? if you are macedonians like ancient macedonians explain us the meaning of word ''macedonia''. tell us the etymology... come on ''ancient macedonian''. proove us the truth, we are waitng... come on
while Alexander was alive, the slavs were on trees eating bananas... what kind of question is this? what a moron... Alexander was Makedonian, You are slav. sooo simple...
Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me!... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov
you are a parrot... wake up. you think that Alexander says to his mother ''lele majko''? hahahah. if you are 17 old its to bad for you to believe to this bullshits... i am sorry for you.
slovenians? macedonians? what are you talking about? where did you learn history boy? slavs came here 1000 years after Alexanders season. how can you be 100% ancient macedonians? by cloning method?
and you hate slavic culture? are you talkning slavonic, yes or no? are you dancing zaiko kokoraiko, yes or no? wake up kid. its very sad a young person like you to believe this bullshits. wake up before its too late...
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks [...]
@2005defender so why didn't he call him self Alexander the Greek ? because he wasn't Gypsie, thats why! He was, he is and he alwasys be Macedonian ! Macedonia Timless ! ! !
@2005defender look your logic eats itself ow could he say that if there was no greece back you were just city states please man you people are liars and you know it
From the Greek name Φιλιππος (Philippos) which means "friend of horses", composed of the elements φιλος (philos) "friend" and ιππος (hippos) "horse". This was the name of five kings of Macedon, including Philip II the father of Alexander the Great
Pleon exei mini mono ena asiatiko edafos gia tin Ellada alla k ayto ayrio tha einai ipo tourkiki katoxi....Voithiste tin Ellada na min ginei tourkiki eparxi alli mia fora!!!mpite twra sto game k apotrepste tous skopianous na mpoun me to onoma tis makedonias mas!!!H Ellada sas xriazete..
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
From a strictly linguistic point of view "Macedonian" can be called a Bulgarian dialect, as structurally it is most similar to Bulgarian.
"Encyclopedia of Language and Linguistics", Keith Brown, 1994
but of course state propaganda teaces Fyroms people that their Bulgarian dialect is related ancient Macedonian(that was a Greek dialect). Poor poor people totally lost
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LOVE tHIS VIDEO MACEDONIA WAS AND IS ONLY HELLENIC! BTW WHATS THE NAME OF THE SONG?
MegaLordNick92 1 week ago
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@ChristinaHellas
But we don't ask that teritory back from you, just leave us to live in peace, and to keep progress in all International and European organizations etc.
Regards!
CoolJegerJ 1 week ago
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CoolJegerJ 1 week ago
@ChristinaHellas
But you also know that you don't speak same language as Ancient Greeks(Hellens)(Hellenic language or Ancient Greek language), if you think that you speak same language as Ancient Greeks then you are insane.
Your bigest problem is that you have taken Macedonian teritory(territory who was never yours before 19 centery and now you want to make it yours), you have twinges of conscience, because you have made many villainy on that territory, same is the situation with Bulgarians.
CoolJegerJ 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ
During Ottoman occupation Makedonia was still considered as part of Greece.
The Tsar of Russia, Alexander II, declaring the war against Turkey, 24-4-1877 stated:
"The refusal of Turkey to accept a betterment of the conditions for the christians of the GREEK peninsula, forced Russia to take up arms."
ChristinaHellas 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ
During Byzantine Era Makedonia was a part of Greece and Thessaloniki was the spiritual and trading centre of the Byzantine Empire. Thessaloniki was the Second City of the Empire and gained the honorary title of "Symvasilevousa" [the co-reigning city].
ChristinaHellas 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ
During Roman Empire Makedonia was a part of Greece.
Under the Romans GREECE was seperated in TWO provinces, ACHAIA and MAKEDONIA. The province Achaia included Peloponnese and the rest of the southern parts of Greece till the periphery of Makedonia and had as capital CORINTH.
The Romans were those who separated Greece in 2 Provinces, ACHAIA and MAKEDONIA.
"Macedonia and Achaia" generally means the whole of Greece (Acts 19:21; Rom 15:26; 1 Thess 1:8)
ChristinaHellas 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ
" ...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4
ChristinaHellas 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ
In antiquity Makedonia was a part of Greece.
"Έστιν ουν Ελλάς και η Μακεδονία"
"Macedonia is a part of Greece"
Strabo, Geography, book 7, Fragment 9
Polivius Book 10-27
"...Annibas put himself under oath to Xenophanis (ambassador of Philip) in front of the all gods that MACEDONIA AND THE REST OF HELLAS have..."
ChristinaHellas 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ
Modern Greek is based on Anient Greek like Italian is based on Latin - and yours is based on serbobulgarian.
ChristinaHellas 1 week ago
@ChristinaHellas
I don't say that A.Macedonian language is the same with today Macedonian language, because we were under many occupations (and you too) but I believe that there are many similarities, and that today Macedonian is the most related with Ancient Macedonian, and then with Slavic(because Slavs came on Balkan in 5-6 centery and they mixed with the local population).
CoolJegerJ 1 week ago
@CoolJegerJ No one in the world connects your Bulgarian dialect that was renamed to 'Macedonian" in communist Yuogoslavia with any ancient languages.
You are mislead by your state propaganda. I feel sorry for you.
jk34695 1 week ago
@ChristinaHellas
But still there are many proves that prove that A.Macedonians eachother spoke different not hellenic language.
Then Alexandar understood that he have made big mistake, with his decision, because Hellens were doing propaganda under all Macedonian teritories, because language is the basic weapon for propaganda.
CoolJegerJ 1 week ago
@ChristinaHellas
Why you cant understand, are you stupid?
Why Macedonians were called barbarians by Hellens?
Because they didn't have written language(alphabet), and Alexander adopted Greek language as official language in his empire, because Alexander was wise man and he knew that if he want big empire, then he need a good language, and he knew that Greek language was way better then A.Macedonian in that time, and A.Macedonian was rarely used(used just between A.Macedonians).
CoolJegerJ 1 week ago
And Alexander also spoke a mysterious, unknown, secret, undiscovered language, of which none since thousands of yrs ever heard anything about, THO HE REACHED TILL INDIA, but.. the university of Skopje will now prove that the Rosetta stone is proto-slavic.
ChristinaHellas 2 weeks ago
in every region where Greek was the native language A DIALECT EVOLVED, so was it in Attica, same in Peloponnese, same in Ionia and the same is true for Makedonia :-)
One example: In Ionia the sea was called Thalassa and in Makedonia the sea was called Dalassa.
That is what normal people call a DIALECT
ChristinaHellas 2 weeks ago
@Mntsos
Most of them were exterminated in the regime of the greek dictator Ioannis Metaxas, and many of them were drived out from Greece as civil war victims but there are still some of them in Aegean Macedonian(Northern Greece)!
You are scared because you think that we have territory aspirations at your country, everyone know that, but you should understand that something like that do not exist, maybe just in some ultra nationalistic circles of people.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Ur Grandpas said theyre bulgars, so u must say that Greeks arent Greeks. U speak a Bulgarian dialect, so u have to say that the Greek language isnt Greek.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ The region was called ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ in antiquity and was a part of Greece.
The region was called ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ during Roman Empire and was a part of Greece.
The region was called ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ during Byzantine Era and was a part of Greece.
The region was called ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ during ottoman occupation and was still considered a part of Greece.
And when we liberated ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ it was and is called ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ till nowadays.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Your nationalist definately have aspiration to my country.
Look at your schools what they are learning to your young people.
Ioannis Metaxas bravely fought against the nazi's-italians en your brother's the bulgars,
and won the respect of Hitler himself which your fathers welcomed them.
And the greek civil war was made by betraytors communists which was killing with conserve boxes, and wanted to make greece a soviet province.Fortunately, they didn't succed like with u for example
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
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POTIS1 2 months ago
MONKEYDONIA FOR THE MONKEYDONIANS!!!!
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'cause macedonia original=hellas!!
drmack70 3 months ago in playlist Περισσότερα βίντεο από τον χρήστη MAKEDONIAisHELLAS
you gayreeks now will dreem with europeanS dick in your ass that you aetiopean garbidge will save your bankrot republik Gayrek .And who will give to you money for your propaganda you gypsi garbidge.Look you in mirror and think how aleksanders skin is not black like your gypsy skin
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fuck all you greek motherfuckers, do what you cunts do best and take it up the ass u greek cunts, alexander was maco nothing different you, you hairy motherfuckers!!!
TheKarantzoulis1 4 months ago
To all gipsy fyromonkeys:
Back to the cage, and dream further with a banana in the mouth.
Even if all the fucking world would call you with your artistic nickname,
you will NEVER-EVER be macedonians and the land you dream of,
will NEVER-EVER and REALLY fucking NEVER will be yours, because WE, the real
and legitimate macedonians-greeks, will NEVER SURREND IT
Mntsos 4 months ago
@Mntsos
Greeks call us gypsies lol
First look at your self negro-hellen hahaha , you(Greeks) and Bulgarians are the blackest nations in Europe, you are like gypsies, and we are not saying noting about that because we are not racists, and you are still provoking. You should shut your mount and understand that we are mix between Ancient Macedonians and Slavic tribes who came later on these territories, but all genetic analyses say that we have more then 70% with ancient Macedonian gens.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
And you should ask your self what are you, because i think that you are little more black for Hellens, maybe you(Greeks) are white in Athens, but islands and half Greece are inhabited by semi-black people who looks like gypsies.
Same for Bulgarians!
That is the truth, and the truth sometimes hurts!
We know who we are and we are proud of our identity, but do you know who you are?
And please stop with this propaganda about Macedonia!
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
If you want to find out what is the truth and who are real Macedonians you should come in Republic of Macedonia and then you should go in Aegean Macedonian(Northern Greece) and then you should find out(if you wish of course :D)
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ don't know what is happening but i stil get an error when i try to answer your nonsense. They are so many, jesus, i need to write the whole night.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Without bad feelings,i don't have smthing personal with you,and rest slavic citizens of vardar region.From your childhood you're all victims of shameless, payed propagandists who try to alter and usurp the history of our Greek Makedonia for their own reasons.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Sorry, but to come to your country to do what? look for history? A visit to the macedonian museum in my city, Thessaloniki gives me enough information already. You, really should visit it sometime...
And, another reason that i will never visit your country is that if they put to my passport a stamp with "republika makedonija" then i will have to burn it and pay for another...
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
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CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Part1:Sorry, but this story of your's about your language is a big fake.
Your language is the latest in balkan - mid-20th century, which was founded, as you know, by Tito in 1944. This is a Bulgarian language (the original population of the region were Bulgarian and Bulgarians always claimed this area considered their own - indeed the people of the region called Bugari3 «Bulgarians»!).
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Part2: Is made with purely artificial manner, set up by a group of linguists with basis of bulgarian introduced to vocabulary and grammatical elements from the surrounding areas who spoke Serbian, in order to reduce the Bulgarian nature of the language and gain Serbian linguistic form, which was a requirement of a united Serbia of Tito.So,the language in Skopje is a servobulgarian dialect, an artificial serv-made-bulgarian, imposed as an official language for obvious reasons...
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Part3:Bulgarians called it «kolisefskiki» language as design and execution of scopian political Kolisefski!. Skopjans gave to this bulgaro-servian language the misleading name «Macedonsky» to avoid the Bulgarian claims and to hide along the Bulgarian origin of language and to lend their prestige and historical depth (through bogus identification with the glorious and world-famous name of Alexander the Great of Macedonia. That is the schientific truth about your language
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
Also i've got the same error :(
First let make it clear about the language, bulgarian language is dialect of Macedonian language, maybe it sounds strange, but it is true, because when Bulgarians(Tatars-Mongols) come on Balkan from Tatarstan, they were spoke some Old Tatar language, today know as Old Bulgarian(you should explore about this), but local population in Macedonia was already setlled Macedonian Slavs and Ancient Macedonians mixed and have already made their own language...
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
Because Macedonian Slavs come on Balkan in 5-6 century and mixed with the local population, but Tatars(Old Bulgarians) come on Balkan 7-8 century, first they spoke on Old Bulgarian, but then they remelt with the local population on their territory: Thracians and Slavs.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
First Bulgarians(Tatars, Thracians and Slavs) and Macedonians(Anceient Macedonians and Slavs) fought each-other but Macedonians were supported by Byzantium and defeated the Tatars, and Tatars adopted Macedonian Slavic and with years Old Bulgarian extincted.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
That is how Bulgarian language was made, of course there are many differences between Macedonian and Bulgarian language because the languages evoluated with years and Bulgarian adopted many words from Old Bulgarian.
That is why Bulgarians speak our language, but we are not same people.
That is why Bulgarians want Macedonia, because their language originate from Macedonia.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
Solun(Thessalonian) Brothers Cyril and Methodius(they were also priests) made the first official Macedonian Slav alphabet, the alphabet was refined by their best students from Ohrid Clement and Naum(they were also priests). Today their alphabet is used by all slav speaking and slav writing nations(Russia, Ukraine, Belarus etc).
One more reason why Bulgarians want to take Macedonia from us and why they consider us Bulgarians, because they don't have history.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Let me make something clear: The ancient Macedonians were Dorian Greeks who entered the area of Macedonia at about 1100 B.C., long before any Slavic population appeared in that part of the world
Macedonians had Greek names
All the ancient Macedonian names mentioned in history or found on tombs are Greek. All the kings of Ancient Macedonia had Greek names. Nobody discovered ancient Macedonian names ending to -ov or -ovski or whatever.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Macedonians spoke a dialect of the Greek language.
all the monuments and inscriptions found in the Macedonia are written using the Greek language. There is no historic evidence to suggest that the Macedonians were using a different language.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
There is no historic evidence to suggest that the Macedonians were using a different language, because that language is extincted, but we Macedonians, you Greeks most probably using some words of that language.
"The ancient Macedonians were Dorian Greeks", you consider ancient Macedonians as Greeks because everything what is Macedonian you consider as Greek, you cant see the difference because you are like blinded on that matter.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Excuse me, but i am getting little tyred of that discussion.Here, read please the schientific evidence on these, not greek, fully independent and schientific topic which officially presented to us president: macedonia-evidence(.)org/obama-letter and macedonia-evidence.(org)/documentation Cheers..
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
Thanks for the link, i will read it :)
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
The division of the Greek tribe of Makednoi had as result the DORIANS and the MAGNETES
Herodotos 1.56
The Hellenic nation...in the days of king Deukalion inhabited the land of Fthia,then in the time of Doros (son) of Hellen the country called Istiaiotis,under Ossa & Olympos. Forced to retire from Istiaiotis by the Kadmeians,it settled about Pindos under the name MAKEDNON.Thence again it migrated to Dryopis & at last came from Dryopis into Peloponnesos where it took the name DORIAN"
ChristinaHellas 2 weeks ago
Alexander reached from Europe to Egypt, till INDIA! where is his slavoturkalbanian language?! no inscriptions? no sources?? not even a little coin?! lol
Titus Livius, From the Foundation of the City 31
"The Aitolians, the Akarnanians, the Macedonians, men of the same speech ..."
"After this Alexandros left Dareios's mother, his daughters, and his son in Susa, providing them with persons to teach them the HELLENIC DIALECT,..."
(Diodoros of Sicily 17.67.1)
ChristinaHellas 2 weeks ago
@Mntsos
I don't agree with you, but everyone have right of his opinion and we will never change our name, these EU and NATO negotiations are just mask!
But world is free, enjoy, every one have right on his opinion!
You are taking these things too serious, it is not worth to be nervous for this things!
Here is one joke i will try to translate:
History is a science who research about the deaths but harass the live :D
Regards :)
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Finishing the disscussion,i would like to say that of course,everyone has his opinion and the right to say it,but facts can not be just denied.I bother about the scopian issue because i am ellin macedonian,my home is here and i will defend it to the end.To change your name,maybe will not be neccesery after some years because there is a big chance that your fragile republic will tear apart from the ethnic problems inside it.Until that time, be well and just OPEN your eyes. Fr. regards
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Cyrilus and Methodius were 2 greek monniks which was send by byzantine keizer Ioustinianos the 7-8th century b.c. to the area of today's yugoslavia, specially to make a writen language of their language, because until that time slavic populations only had spoken and not written language. And to make them christians so that they stop attacking the byzantine empire.
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ Kyrillos and Methodios, they used half greek alphabet and they invented 14-15 new signs(letters) and they made writen the slavic language which is similar with todays servo-croatian. Schientist say that that was the basic slavic language from which the rest dialects came like bulgarians, russians, ukraine's etc
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
I don't have noting personally against Greece or against any citizen from Greece, but i don't agree with you, and i think that you are people influenced by propaganda, and i don't have intentions to go in Greece, because they will put post mark FYROM on my passport.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@CoolJegerJ No, you get brainwashed from shameless propagantists who try to false history and steal identity. Solun yealled the barbarians-slavs when attacted the city.Thessaloniki is the name, sister of Alexander the great.Thousands of evidence, historical and political facts, nothing kan make your eyes open...you seemed like north koreans, so bad is the brainwash in you fragile republic...
Mntsos 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
PS: Alexander the Great spoke hellenic language(in that time hellenic language was international language, as today english) because macedonian in that time was barbarian language(language without alphabet) from that language every proof extincted and most probably some words are today in our languages. First written Macedonian language was Macedonian church slavonic or also known as Old Macedonian who originates from Solun(Thessalonica) region, that language was made in 7-8 century.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
@Mntsos
You should talk with the local population and you will conclude that people who live in nowadays Aegean Macedonian(Northern Greece) are Christian Turks or Greeks(who came from Turkey with convention in 1923 population exchange between Greece and Turkey) and Dopi(Natives), Slavophone Macedonians, Slavophone Greeks(so called by the Greeks) or just Macedonians.
CoolJegerJ 3 weeks ago
Lol Macedonia is not Hellas, if it was they'd speak your language as that if what defined Hellenistic cultures. Alexander was a greek but you guys lost the ability to claim that region a long time ago
utubedetective72 5 months ago
yeah man, sure, but you lost that Macedonia in the 6th century by the Bulgarian tribes
and they are still living there but now they are occupied by Greece.
petrovski40 5 months ago
Fuck the slavs
IllyriPower 6 months ago
Greeks got slaughtered by Alexander of Macedon. In all history books there is a clear distinction between the barbarian Alexander and a Greek! You big malaka's worship your killer!! hang on a minute... that fits Kokstas to a tea.
QTMacGirl 7 months ago
@QTMacGirl
Uhm, whatever...The whole of Greek antiquity is characterized by Alliance and Enmity between Greeks themselves
Wars between Greeks:
Spartans against Messenians, Argeioi against Spartans, Spartans against Tegheate, Athenians and their allies against Spartans and their allies, Athenians against Meghareis, Athenians against the Melos island, Ionian navy against the Athenian-Spartan navy at Salamis, Corinthians against Meghareis, Aetolians against Focaeis, Boeoteans against Thessalians,->
ChristinaHellas 7 months ago
@QTMacGirl
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Achaeoi and Macedonians against Aetolians etc. The spartan Lyssander destroyed Athens, the Athenians destroyed Melos and the Thebans the city of Plateae etc.
ChristinaHellas 7 months ago
The Greece never existed before 1832. First city states fighting each other, then Macedonian slavery, then Roman slavery, then Turkish slavery and finally QUOTE: "Otto, prince of Bavaria or Othon, king of Greece was made the first modern King of Greece in 1832 under the Convention of London, whereby Greece became a new independent kingdom under the protection of the Great Powers (the United Kingdom, France and the Russian Empire)."
MrMKCA 11 months ago
@MrMKCA Greece existed before 1832. It wasnt like Greece we know now but it existed in Several States. Alexander the Great was part of uniting all States to form the Country of Greece rather than Greek States. Greece received independence in 1821 and since then has been part of many treaties which divided land to Greece and land to others. Greece has always existed, dating back to Ancient times.. just not in the form we now know it...
im1hecticwog 11 months ago
@im1hecticwog Waste of time arguing with Greeks.They do not consider any other opinion.
MrMKCA 11 months ago
@im1hecticwog France and a couple of other countries brang the states together your such a dumbass and the funny part is where the hell did you greeks pull all this bullshit out from.
MrMkD4eVeR100 9 months ago
You can learn to speak Greek and feel Greek as much as you want but you can´t "pretend" to be something you are not
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify look whoes talking, your fake macedonian country(vardaska) claim to be desendents of the ancient macedonians(greeks) but your not ,you are slavs.slavs are turks who turned christian during the first crusade.the macedonia in the word fyrom doent mean hisoracly but geograhael.modern day greeks are desendents of the ancient greeks and vardaskins(fyromians) are christian turks or slavs LEARN YOUR HISTORY VARDASKIN! MACEDONIA IS GREEK!!!
GreekKid123321 1 year ago
@GreekKid123321 Instead of trying to prove that the ancient Macedonians were "Greek", these Greeks who like to argue about their Greek-ness should look at their own relationship to the ancient "Greeks".
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify i dont need to prove the fact that the ancient macedonians were greek because they are and thers D.N.A evedence that modern greeks are desendents of the ancient greeks(that inclouds macedonia) and thers absolutly no proof at all that slavs are desendents of the ancient macedonians but thers proof that there greek.try using another source of information instead of your published propaganda
GreekKid123321 1 year ago
@GreekKid123321 ΤΙ ΣΗΜΑΙΝΕΙ ΓΡΕΚΟΣ ??? Απατεώνας Cheat, Swindler
• Πανούργος Foxy
• Πονηρός Sly
• Κομπιναδόρος Trickster
• Παλιάνθρωπος Scoundrel
• Υπουλος Crook
• Κλέφτης Thief
istoriify 11 months ago
@istoriify umm why did you reply theat on my comment?
GreekKid123321 11 months ago
@istoriify
LOL learn the basics you illiterate prick!
The word "greek" derives from the latin word "graecus" and not from Grex-Gregis = thief etc. LMAO. Graecus derives from the greek name "graikos" - the greek dipthong "AI" is always translated as "AE" in latin.
GRAEKOS son of Thessalos and greatgrandson of Pelasgos.
Etymology:
"Graios" contraction of the word "Geraios" (Ge+reo).
Graios, Graikos has the meaning of "old autochthonous"
Greece was also called Graia (Graia, Gaia = earth).
OrphicHymn 11 months ago
@OrphicHymn ΤΟ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΟ ΚΡΑΤΟΣ ΚΑΤΕΒΑΛΕ ΤΕΡΑΣΤΙΑ ΠΡΟΣΠΑΘΕΙΑ ΓΙΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΤΙΚΑΤΑΣΤΑΣΗ ΤΗΣ ΛΕΞΗΣ ΓΡΕΚΟΣ ΜΕ ΤΗΝ ΛΕΞΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΛΟΓΩ ΤΗΣ ΑΠΑΞΙΩΤΙΚΗΣ ΕΝΝΟΙΑΣ ΤΗΣ ΠΡΩΤΗΣ ΣΤΟΝ ΔΥΤΙΚΟ ΚΟΣΜΟ
istoriify 11 months ago
@OrphicHymn Ο όρος Ελλάς χρησιμοποιήθηκε γιά πρώτη φορά με έννοια κρατικής οντότητας το 1830, μετά την ίδρυση του νεοελληνικού κρατιδίου.
istoriify 11 months ago
@OrphicHymn The germans made your flag and your name stopping spitting out bullshit with that filthy mouth fuck i hope greeks like you burn in hell. God knows what the truth is. the dumbass world cant see that macedonia is right but God knowsyou greeks keep that thought
MrMkD4eVeR100 9 months ago
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@GreekKid123321 They may be surprised to find that the modern Greeks have nothing to do with the Ancient Greeks.
istoriify 1 year ago
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ΤΑ ΑΙΣΘΗΜΑΤΑ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΜΟΛΙΣ ΠΛΗΡΟΦΟΡΗΘΗΚΑΝ ΤΟΝ ΘΑΝΑΤΟ ΤΟΥ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ
"Ο Αλέξανδρος νεκρός; Αδύνατον.. Ολόκληρος ο κόσμος θα έπρεπε να έχει βρωμίσει από την μπόχα που αναδύει το πτώμα του "
istoriify 1 year ago
bulgarian slut
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deedeegr100 1 year ago
John Foster Fraser (published in 1906),
You will find Bulgarians and Turks who call themselves Macedonians, you find Greek Macedonians, there are Servian Macedonians, and it is possible to find Roumanians Macedonians. You will NOT, however, find a single Christian Macedonian who is not a Servian, a Bulgarian, a Greek, or a Roumanian.
lekos28 1 year ago
The modern Greeks are largely of Slavic origin. They are not the descendents of the ancient Greeks. That noble race, greatly mixed with barbarian blood during the middle ages, was almost completely destroyed in the course of the frequent uprisings against Turkish rule. Slavic immigrants gradually repopulated the country." ("The Popular Science Monthly", edited by J. McKeen Cattell", Volume LXXV, July to December 1909, page 591.)
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify
T.J. Winnifrith, British scholar:
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel,probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted."
lekos28 1 year ago
@istoriify malaka LEARN YOUR HISTORY VARDASKIAN!
GreekKid123321 1 year ago
@GreekKid123321 Did the Greeks constitute a race apart from the Albanians the Slavs and the Vlachs? Yes and no. High school students were told that the ´other races´, i.e. the Slavs the Albanians and the Vlachs ´having been Hellenized with the years in terms of mores and customs, are now being assimilated into the Greeks´." ("Greece in the 20th Century", Editors Theodore A. Couloumbis, Theodore Kariots, Fotini Bellou, page 24.)
istoriify 1 year ago
@GreekKid123321 Anyone(Gypsy) can become a Greek by accepting the Greek indoctrination
and that is to learn to speak the Greek language, feel Greek and
pretend" to be a descendent of the so-called
Ancient Greeks"
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify woooow is this the stuff they teach you in vardaska?or are you pretending to be smart? modern day greeks are 100 percent decenents of the ancient greeks(THAT INCLOUDS MACEDONIA) and vardaskans or slavs are turks who turned christian during the first crusade LEARN YOUR HISTORY VARDASKIN AND MACEDONIA WAS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE GREEK!
GreekKid123321 1 year ago
Wow
nice music.
STUPID VIDEO
LastManStanding1878 1 year ago
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Macedonia has been and always will be part of Bulgaria!
ar6inkov 1 year ago
i liked very much seeing the albanians protesting about the name. " DONT FYROM ME CALL ME ILIRIDA! " the media were so pleased to see this! looool what a joke! most of the population ADMITS that they have no connection the the one and real macedonia that is IN GREECE! ILIRIDA OR WEST BULGARIA time to choose, vardaska, or kingdom of prilep or whatever!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@deedeegr100 Have you commented on every video?
See I was right!!
You are the little bitch whore I thought you were.
LOL
VonLincoln1 1 year ago
WIKIPEDIA says:
Slavic peoples are classified geographically and linguistically into West Slavic (including Czechs, Poles, Silesians, Slovaks and Sorbs), East Slavic (including Belarusians, Russians and Ukrainians),[8] and South Slavic (including Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs and Slovenes).
simple....
macedonians are greek....
tranzlation09 1 year ago
damn people stop with this Go and play Football :)
TheMartin192 1 year ago
if you have nothing to show for, you hang on to the past for dear life. no matter who you think your ancestors were, today you are a backward people full of nationalistic hypocrisy, ignorance and stupidity. you are the descendants of ali pasha and mehmet gioutahi either you like it or not. your heritage is in the way you behave and think. you are today's barbarians. alexander made a living conquering and pillaging the likes of you.
skatomalakapoustis 1 year ago 10
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GREECE IS BANKRUPT. BANKRUPT IS GREECE.
dexameron 1 year ago
GREECE IS BANKRUPT. BANKRUPT IS GREECE.
dexameron 1 year ago
@dexameron says the 2.000.000 population "country" with 40% unemployment and 600.000 albanians, 200.000 greeks and thousands of turks, serbs and bulgars LOLSKI
deedeegr100 1 year ago
@deedeegr100 Still not a bankrupt. Nice meeting you again! :)
dexameron 1 year ago
@dexameron are u sure? :p hahaha who says greece is? i am sure you are very very happy!
deedeegr100 1 year ago
what are you discussing guys .. lots of things happened after olypic games.. greeks are not the ancient greeks.. macedonians are not the sons of alexander.. turks are not turks from asia.. what are you fighting for ?
candella123 1 year ago
i am greek from macedonia
dionis198686 1 year ago
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Πέντε αιώνες αργότερα το 1893 Βούλγαρoι ιδρύουν την τότε ("Български Македоно-Одрински революционни комитети (БМОРК) / Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committee (BMARC)"") – "Βουλγάρικη Επαναστατική `Eνωση Μακεδονίας-´Aδριανούπολις" το μετέπειτα ΒΜΡΟ ( Вътрешна македонска революционна организация / Vatreshna Makedonska Revolyutsionna Organizatsiya (ВМРО) ) –
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
) – "Εσωτερική ( Βουλγάρικη ) Μακεδονική Επαναστατική Οργάνωση" και ξεκινάει έτσι ο αγώνας για την εθνική ανεξαρτησία. Μολονότι ο εθνικιστής ηγέτης Γκότσε Ντέλτσσεφ (Goce Delčev) από το Κιλκίς πέθανε πριν την εξέγερση του
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
Πέντε αιώνες αργότερα το 1893 Βούλγαρoι ιδρύουν την τότε ("Български Македоно-Одрински революционни комитети (БМОРК) / Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committee (BMARC)"") – "Βουλγάρικη Επαναστατική `Eνωση Μακεδονίας-´Aδριανούπολις" το μετέπειτα ΒΜΡΟ ( Вътрешна македонска революционна организация / Vatreshna Makedonska Revolyutsionna Organizatsiya (ВМРО) ) – "Ε
JIMY45GR 1 year ago
Wonderfully compiled video...
If the Macedones OWN account of themselves and their origins, in their OWN beleif of their ethno-genesis as GREEKS IS NOT enough....
The thousands of archeological discoveries spanning three continents, the Roman,Indian and Persian sources and of course the oldest tablet found in Macedon in the 6th century documenting an undetested DORIC DIALECT OF GREEK should be more than enough, even from FASCISTS from the former yugoslav republic of pannonia (vardarska)
alexandros1821 1 year ago
fuck you greece we are macedonian and forever will be.. fuck you..ALEXANDAR THE GREAT!! IS MACEDONIAN HE IS NOT GAY LIKE YOU....
toki350 1 year ago
@toki350
Alexander III (the Great)
3.In his letter to the king of the Persians:
Quote:
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks [...]
(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)
Alexander sais you are a NAIVE CLOWN
2005defender 1 year ago 4
As an American diplomat said on a YouTube clip.
We recognize the republic of Macedonia we also recognize the historic Hellenic province Macedonia in the agean (Greece) which is much larger than the republic of Macedonia. The republic has no valid claim to the historic agean Macedonia which consists of Hellenic heroes like Alexander the great and other Hellenic legends.
nmt1969 1 year ago
teleio
SPARTANsenator1 1 year ago
It will provide scientific evidence that the ancient Macedonians: hired mercenaries from Greece, and used by the Greeks and foreign allies. Greek cities razed.
the Greek inhabitants sold as slaves. Greek cities pillaged and burnt and the countryside. Greek garrison cities (a sure sign of servitude).
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify
αντε ρε μαλακα Στοιδη φτιαξε καμμια πλαστη αρχαιι επιγραφη να ξαναγινεις ρεζιλι παλι
2005defender 1 year ago 7
@2005defender ποιοσ είναι ο Στοιδης;
ierakas 1 year ago
That the ancient Macedonians did not regard the Greeks as their relatives. Alexander the Great was a Greek king, the Greeks did not regard as kin. Alexander the Macedonian Army was not a Greek army. The conquest of Alexander of Macedonia was not a Greek conquest. Ancient Macedonians were just that - Macedonians and the Greeks looked with contempt.
istoriify 1 year ago
2013 A.D. Third Balkan War. The end of Greece. 100 years after the 1913 Bucarest Treaty, a new unavoidable war will solve old disputes and impair justice in Balkans.
istoriify 1 year ago
GREECE ARE RACIST. Macedonia will NEVER EVER be Greece. Alexander is MACEDONIA and so was his father.
pwincezz54 1 year ago
@pwincezz54 Contrary to the modern demands Greek Macedonia was never part of Greece and the ancient Macedonians were not considered as the ancient Greeks. Quite the contrary - the Macedonians conquered Greece and the Greeks enslaved for centuries until Rome conquered Macedonia in 168 BC
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify
. Dedication of Alexander to Athena
Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks, except the Lacedaemonians, from the barbarian inhabitans in Asia
[Arrian, I, 16, 10]
are you an IDIOT OR A NAIVE?????
2005defender 1 year ago
@pwincezz54 WE on the contrary shall fight for
GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
Who is the LIAR, Alexander or YOU???
2005defender 1 year ago
Неопходно да се разговара. Кој живее во Македонија, важно е.
mozgurnevruz 1 year ago
Skopians are the retarded sperm of Tito. Skopian slavobastards have Bulgarian identity and not Hellenic.
The world knows that Macedonia is Greece.
nmt1969 1 year ago
only 32 percent of Athenian citizens have Hellenic and even Arab origin. iGENEA further explains that 31 percent of Greek citizens have Celtic roots, 19 percent Germanic and Slavic origin, while 18% have Turkish and Illyrian roots.
MKDULTRA 1 year ago
..SKOPLJANS,are people who...''shakes the pinneapple tree''....
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lol
drmack70 1 year ago 2
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MKSunGR 1 year ago
I guess skopians are just too stupid to realize that they are Slav. Soon their time will come to an end. They are trying to rob Greece of their history and culture. Trying trying trying. Buy they can't because the world knows the truth about ancient Greek history which has been told for thousands of years.
Skopians wake up you fools. The world is watching you.
nmt1969 1 year ago
@Taleyt
There cannot be any peace with such provocations from blinded fools..harsh but simple..my great great grandfather, told my great grandfather, who told my grandfather, who told my father, who told me that we were Martians..should I believe such fairytales or actually pick up a book, read and learn about History? Ignorance is bliss!!
TheKameleon80 1 year ago
@TheKameleon80 Its clear who is giving the provocations, I know history about this region more than you and all your buddies here put together, the thing is that the people are so mixed up and raveled that no one can prove anything. Greece didn't have problem with our name while we were in federation, the problem came when we become independent country. Don't worry no one wants your territory that 100 years ago was full with Macedonians that you killed and drive out of their homes!
Taleyt 1 year ago
he was named Alexander not Alaxandrovski
his father's named Fillipos not Filipoff
his mother's named Olympia not Olympieva
his sister's named Thesssaloniki not Thessalonikovskaya
His capital's names Vergina not Verginogski
teogreece 1 year ago
you can say what ever you whant but the true is thet aleksandar is macedonian
:)))))
TheMakedonce16 1 year ago
@TheMakedonce16
It is sure that he has macedonian.
what is your ralationship with macedonia?????
you have to try to create your oun history not to steal others history.
Everybody in the world are laughing with you and your allegations and your obsession about the Alexander
teogreece 1 year ago
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This Greek letters Α,Γ,Δ,Ζ,Θ,Λ,Ξ,Π,Ω are in the grave of King Filippos (ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ) in Pella. What you are trying to do ? You are trying to succed Titos plan to save FYROM land from Bulgaria..? History is written in the ancient marbles not in the history books of Tito..MAKEDONIA was a Greek Kingdom, so Greek as the Athenians,Spartans,Cretan,Aegean cities,Korinthians,Thessaly,Epirus.. Uneducated
mariosathens1 1 year ago 2
I don't want to smell a maggot-infested monkeydonian, no thanks, keep it in your family curlee. :) or should we call you "the trelokomio"?
spartiati75 1 year ago
Anyone with half a brain can see, who the real Macedoniandescendants are. Varduscans have no link, just gypsy traditions mixed with bulgar or should i say burglar .
CostaVellis 1 year ago
was alexandros not alexandrofski
greekmakedonas4261 1 year ago
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Finaly the investigate for the real trueth is finished.
Im an archeologian from skopje and with my american,turk and bulgarian friends and teacher are now ready to tell the trueth about it all.
All research and evidence are that the Macedonians were greeks.
No other sign is coming up.
The investigate begun for to se if Gligorov was telling the trueth,,well he did.
The book and dvd(Alexandar the Greek)will soon be out for you all to read.
Deformedius 1 year ago
FYROMs first President, Kiro Gligorov
-- (Toronto Star, March 15, 1992)
We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. Thats who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD).
GODDIONYSUS 1 year ago
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skopje or skoupi is from greek word skoupi-dia=
SKOUPIDIA.english is GARBAGE AND THIS IS YOUR NAME GARBAGEDONIA OR SKOYPIDIADONIA
MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND IS GREEK!
MKDISGREEK 1 year ago
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Hey there.
Im a teacher in univercity of skopje.
I can tell you all, that under my and others teachers resurch have not found anything who can connect us to the ancient macedonians.
All thing show that Alexandar was Greek.
And no dubt about it.
Even our own Kiro Gligorov sad that.
Deformedius 1 year ago
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Macedonia is Macedonian, Brazil is Brazilian and Greece is Greek. Now go to the loo and wash your racist face.
eyletmenbeni 1 year ago
@eyletmenbeni
get lost clown, you are a naive on history
2005defender 1 year ago
March 23, 1881
Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me!... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov
Kjustendil Centralnii Gosudartsvenii Arhiv Okjabarskii revoljucii i socialtieskoga stroitelstva SSSR, Moskva.
17gian17 1 year ago
Makedonija means makedonija.
We are Macedonians like Ancients Macedonians.
We are not slavs.
17gian17 1 year ago
@17gian17
Ancient Macedonians were GREEKS
Dedication of Alexander to Athena
Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks, except the Lacedaemonians, from the barbarian inhabitans in Asia
[Arrian, I, 16, 10]
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2005defender 1 year ago
17gian17
you are not slavs?
and Makedonija means makedonija??
hahahaha... what a moron. what are you? a parrot? this is your explanation about makedonia? if you are macedonians like ancient macedonians explain us the meaning of word ''macedonia''. tell us the etymology... come on ''ancient macedonian''. proove us the truth, we are waitng... come on
nickgreek4 1 year ago 2
Alexander the great was Macedonian or slav?
17gian17 1 year ago
while Alexander was alive, the slavs were on trees eating bananas... what kind of question is this? what a moron... Alexander was Makedonian, You are slav. sooo simple...
nickgreek4 1 year ago
March 23, 1881
Manifesto of the Provisional Government of Macedonia: ...our dear Macedonia, our dear homeland is calling upon you: you who are my faithful children, you who are descendants of Aristotle and Alexandar the Great, you in whose veins Macedonian blood flows, do not let me die, but help me!... President Vasil Chomo, Secretary Nikola Trajkov
Kjustendil Centralnii Gosudartsvenii Arhiv Okjabarskii revoljucii i socialtieskoga stroitelstva SSSR, Moskva.
17gian17 1 year ago
We are Macedonians, not slavs.
I hate Slavic culture.
17gian17 1 year ago
you are a parrot... wake up. you think that Alexander says to his mother ''lele majko''? hahahah. if you are 17 old its to bad for you to believe to this bullshits... i am sorry for you.
nickgreek4 1 year ago 2
I said you, we are Macedonians, 100 % like Ancients Macedonians, we are not slavs.
Do you believe that Ancients Macedonians were Slavs or Macedonians??
Do you believe that Alexander the great was relative to Slovenians or to Macedonians???
17gian17 1 year ago
slovenians? macedonians? what are you talking about? where did you learn history boy? slavs came here 1000 years after Alexanders season. how can you be 100% ancient macedonians? by cloning method?
and you hate slavic culture? are you talkning slavonic, yes or no? are you dancing zaiko kokoraiko, yes or no? wake up kid. its very sad a young person like you to believe this bullshits. wake up before its too late...
nickgreek4 1 year ago 3
I agree with you. Alexander the great was not relative to Slavs.
I am not slav.
I am macedonian patriot, original Macedonian patriot like Ancients Macedonians.
Makedonija means makedonija.
Nothing other.
17gian17 1 year ago
you dont even know the meaning of ''macedonia'' word. i bet!! can you explain me the meaning? the etimology?
nickgreek4 1 year ago 2
@17gian17
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury [...] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks [...]
(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)
learn it from Himself
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2005defender 1 year ago 7
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We are Macedonians not slavs.
Alexander the great was Macedonian not slav.
17gian17 1 year ago
@17gian17
Aleander Himself said he was G R E E K
Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks, except the Lacedaemonians, from the barbarian inhabitans in Asia
[Arrian, I, 16, 10]
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2005defender 1 year ago 63
@2005defender so why didn't he call him self Alexander the Greek ? because he wasn't Gypsie, thats why! He was, he is and he alwasys be Macedonian ! Macedonia Timless ! ! !
zenSk28 1 year ago
@zenSk28
Alexander addressing to his Macedonian troops before the battles:
"We can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage for as Greeks we should not be slaves to barbarians"
"We shall fight for Greece and our hearts will always be in it "
Yes, he and his people were Macedonians! But why doesnt he say "for as Macedonians"?
If you read some history you will understand that Macedonia like Sparta, Athens, Corinth, etc were parts of ancient Greece.
OneMeso 1 year ago 3
@zenSk28
in the same token why Great Napoleon was nota called Napoleon the French?
Read some Histtoty before you post your garbage fyromian naive
2005defender 1 year ago
@2005defender look your logic eats itself ow could he say that if there was no greece back you were just city states please man you people are liars and you know it
MrMkD4eVeR100 9 months ago
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@17gian17 While
a majority of EU and NATO members are sympathetic towards the situation the country finds
itself in, European public opinion overwhelmingly regards the image of Alexander the
Macedonian as intrinsically linked to the Hellenic (i.e. Greek) identity. A claim by any other
state but Greece to this historic and cultural legacy is considered, to put it mildly, illegitimate.
European Policy Centre
epc eu
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2005defender 1 year ago
@17gian17
PHILIP
Origin of Name
From the Greek name Φιλιππος (Philippos) which means "friend of horses", composed of the elements φιλος (philos) "friend" and ιππος (hippos) "horse". This was the name of five kings of Macedon, including Philip II the father of Alexander the Great
behindthename com
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2005defender 1 year ago
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Hey there.
Im a teacher in univercity in skopje and we have to edmit that we are NOT macedonians.
We just have to be anoust to ourselves and stop those propagandas.
Even our former leader Gligorov sad that
Deformedius 1 year ago
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SeNioRoTatOs 1 year ago
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MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIA ....... not Greek
qaqaaaqqq 1 year ago
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@qaqaaaqqq
WE on the contrary shall fight for
GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
Learn it from Alexander HIMSELF
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2005defender 1 year ago
@qaqaaaqqq
all you have to do is watch the video fyromian naive
ANTONIS1986LOK 1 year ago 3
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skopje or skoupi is from greek word skoupi-dia=
SKOUPIDIA.english is CARBAGE AND THIS IS YOUR NAME CARBAGEDONIA OR SKOYPIDIADONIA
MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND IS GREEK!
MKDISGREEK 1 year ago