I don't think it's helpful to confuse the issue with fascism, though. Fascism is what we are in danger of here in the US. I do see the danger of religion, in general, and Islam specifically, but fascism is a marriage of corporations and the state. I think they want to implement a theocracy, no?
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Really I liked all his thoughts and ideas until he started talking to the Preacher. Being rude and turning his words around to his own view while not letting Tim talk fully about his own views. That and the random interruptions did nothing to help his side, at least in my opinion. I thought Tim was very nice and polite through it all. And even Simon was being interrupted by him.
And about his challenge, can he name anyone that did something where some form of religion didn't effect it.
he claimed proof of religion was simply many people believing in it and then went on to talk about the fallacies of other religions while ignoring that his own has no more proof than theirs
Im a Christian but kinda appreciate the effect Hitchins is having. This crazy old world needs people who know why they believe what they believe, and this kind of debate really makes you dig in and question do I believe this and why? I thinks its that effortlessly arrogant tone that winds people up! Love it when he argues with his brother and gets it back himself, hehe!
Haha, i love the response hitchens gave to the callers initial reasoning of his generalisations, "oh, jesus" hitchensian classic. spread the truth, there is no god.
Hitchens Quote:"Find me a moral statement made by a religious person...that couldn't be performed by non-believer." Hitchens is really opening my eyes about religion. I had thoughts about this in the past, but could never verbalize as he has. BRILLIANT!
More to the point that religious people often fall back on the theory that without god where would we get morality to support irrational beliefs, but as dawkins finely put it, that it is an inate instict in our species most likely formed between the period of evolutionary transendance when we relied on protecting those around us to sustain our own survival,
it is even found to exist in primate behaviour, but we simply would not have been able to still have our species in existence if it weren't for this principal and the propgation that a religious text which has only been here for a minute proportion of human existence, is simply not only incorrect but rationally illogical and insane.
Hitchens has been base aswell as prevolent in U.S media society for the past 25 years, its nothing new, he is now a fuly fledged citizen and is no longer considered british in any way aside from birthright.
"Sheep-faced loon" HAHA YES!
adamwebb241 3 days ago
Yeah! Hitchslap ftw!
MeisterFalti 9 months ago
rofl, owned
TomValedro 11 months ago
Hats off to church-going Simon Mayo for holding it together here.
neonatalpenguin 1 year ago
Reverend... You just got OWNED!
Surells 1 year ago
Listening to Hitch beat this guy is like watching an elephant rape a mouse.
juikm 1 year ago 2
It's good to be on Hitchen's team. I feel well represented.
DamonIcke 1 year ago 3
I don't think it's helpful to confuse the issue with fascism, though. Fascism is what we are in danger of here in the US. I do see the danger of religion, in general, and Islam specifically, but fascism is a marriage of corporations and the state. I think they want to implement a theocracy, no?
vatoencabronado 1 year ago
I loved hitchens when he muttered under his breath- "Ugh, Jesus"!
I love hitchens
shadrach90 2 years ago 16
@shadrach90 I preferred after the call when he muttered 'shitfaced loon' pure Hitchens!
Relbl 9 months ago
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Really I liked all his thoughts and ideas until he started talking to the Preacher. Being rude and turning his words around to his own view while not letting Tim talk fully about his own views. That and the random interruptions did nothing to help his side, at least in my opinion. I thought Tim was very nice and polite through it all. And even Simon was being interrupted by him.
And about his challenge, can he name anyone that did something where some form of religion didn't effect it.
DemonRaaze 2 years ago
he claimed proof of religion was simply many people believing in it and then went on to talk about the fallacies of other religions while ignoring that his own has no more proof than theirs
xhaze8 2 years ago
"cheap faced loon"
mindreadingman 3 years ago 7
Sheep faced loon
Stipoon 2 years ago 5
@mindreadingman its cream faced loon, it means a cowardly idiot
shab8697 1 year ago
How will Christans rationalize their religion if/when science makes tmeporal immortality possible?
humanist7117 3 years ago
Im a Christian but kinda appreciate the effect Hitchins is having. This crazy old world needs people who know why they believe what they believe, and this kind of debate really makes you dig in and question do I believe this and why? I thinks its that effortlessly arrogant tone that winds people up! Love it when he argues with his brother and gets it back himself, hehe!
beangeek73 3 years ago 3
I'm an atheist and I couldn't agree more. He absolutely destroyed his brother though, the condescending sneer isn't 100% hereditary I guess :P
friednoodlesz 3 years ago 6
great reply :D
lord69z 3 years ago
"That could be well be right."
LMAO!
PurushaDesa 3 years ago 4
Haha, i love the response hitchens gave to the callers initial reasoning of his generalisations, "oh, jesus" hitchensian classic. spread the truth, there is no god.
DaveyH123 4 years ago 20
The reverend was pathetic! Nothing he said had any legs to stand on. Hitchens mopped the floor with with that cult-elder.
"Compulsion to lie: in that I detect every predestined theologian." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Antichrist4Life 4 years ago 4
haha hitch is the man. he owned that caller
cizzio1 4 years ago 2
"Sheep faced loon."
Love it!
ff5166 4 years ago
That 'reverend' caller wasn't very convincing.
endofthelinejoel 4 years ago 3
Hitchens Quote:"Find me a moral statement made by a religious person...that couldn't be performed by non-believer." Hitchens is really opening my eyes about religion. I had thoughts about this in the past, but could never verbalize as he has. BRILLIANT!
sivatmin 4 years ago 2
Sort of like saying, if the Bible is divine, point to the moral, truth or instruction that supersedes basic human insight and/or imagination.
DickJohnson3434 4 years ago
More to the point that religious people often fall back on the theory that without god where would we get morality to support irrational beliefs, but as dawkins finely put it, that it is an inate instict in our species most likely formed between the period of evolutionary transendance when we relied on protecting those around us to sustain our own survival,
DaveyH123 4 years ago
it is even found to exist in primate behaviour, but we simply would not have been able to still have our species in existence if it weren't for this principal and the propgation that a religious text which has only been here for a minute proportion of human existence, is simply not only incorrect but rationally illogical and insane.
DaveyH123 4 years ago
@sivatmin same here
shab8697 1 year ago
We SO need Hitchens in this country (USA) and I'm glad he's come here and shed some "non-imaginary light" on these subjects!
nonbreeder 4 years ago
Hitchens has been base aswell as prevolent in U.S media society for the past 25 years, its nothing new, he is now a fuly fledged citizen and is no longer considered british in any way aside from birthright.
DaveyH123 4 years ago