A subspecies is emerging which the experts have named the Duba swamp lion, as opposed to the jungle lion, the desert lion, or the lion of the mainland African plain. It is distinctive in appearance, with a bigger, thicker neck and an extra-strong chest. We should perhaps not be surprised to witness the lion adapt to its environment. Lions once ranged throughout Europe, Asia, Africa and North America, becoming extinct in Europe around 2,000 years ago.
Kingdoms have risen to greatness and fallen into obscurity and mediocrity throughout history. I suspect that something similar has taken place in the animal kingdom, particularly with the big cats.
It seems lion populations may have suffered a decline not only in their numbers throughout the old world, but they may have suffered a decline in over-all fortitude over these past several centuries as well. The Dubs Lion prides may represent a glimps and return of their past glory when their numbers and genetic make-up was more stable.
Tigers are obviously bigger and stronger than the average lion because of the geographic location and daily activities. Those Tigers living in colder climates are significantly larger than those living in warmer climates as a necessity. In ancient times, the Romans sited a male lion that never lost a fight, not even against a tiger or leopard. Back then there were one or two subspecies of big mean Tiger that are now extinct.
The Duba lions of the South African plains are much bigger and muscular than the lions in the northern and eastern parts of Africa. Thanks to their steady diet of buffalo and daily swimming activities during the hunt. Lions have been 6nown to dislike water, but can easily adapt to aquatic life when the need for food calls them to it. Those prides who take to water are naturally stronger and lager than those who don’t because swimming is a resistance activity that builds muscle.
"There is an unusual pride of lions stalking these swamps," he says. "They are cats that live in water and hunt a single herd of Cape buffalo. Evolution favours predators that can hunt a range of prey. But these lions are defying that trend by becoming specialists. These huge lions are adapting and breeding in isolation on an island in a river that goes nowhere."
In a remote corner of Africa, an extraordinary evolutionary tale is unfolding, uncovered by the actor Jeremy Irons and an award-winning documentary team. A new film, Relentless Enemies, will tell the story of the emergence of a distinct subspecies of big cat on a tiny and isolated island in the Duba Plains of Botswana's Okavango Delta.
Fearless, ferocious and mightier than the world has ever seen, this is the new breed of super-lion. Only one species of prey holds its attention: the buffalo ? and in order to bring its powerful foe to the ground, it will take to deep water, use sophisticated hunting techniques and then silence the gigantic beast with a single swipe of a savage paw.
I think we under estimate the potential of all of these magnificent creatures. Lions have lived in various parts of the world under different climates and conditions, possessing varying degrees of size, temperament and strength potentials. The Atlas lion is believed to be extinct, but sightings have been made of this subspecies have been suspected in the northwestern part of Africa. It seems that there were giant lions in America and Europe for a long period in history.
Male lions weigh between 390 and 430 pounds on average, but one male weighed 690 pounds..Females generally weigh between 270 and 315 pounds. Weight (of male African lions) depends upon geographic location, available prey, gender, age, and health.
It has been noted that lions of South Africa are frequently larger than those of East Africa, subject to differing prey selection.
let me kill this debate this person is a tiger fan hes basically making this video to say dont compare tiger and lions compare jaguars and lions loool fuck off lions is the king the african lion that is
you know what makes me laugh? people who make these video's but dont get involved in the comments lol they make a stupid video and kick back lion getting killed by a jag? looool that jaq wont even mess with a lioness
whoever made this video is an idiot!often most jags do not reach 300lb 2nd a stronger bite doesnt mean a better win,a hyena has a stronger bite yet will lose to a lion easy..a wolf will lose easy to a caucasian ovarchark etc. a stonger bite doesnt mean advantage over a fight,a stronger man doesnt mean a better fighter against some one whos weaker yet has skillz dumbass poster...a lion never lose to a jaguar idiot
Male lion would decimate jaguar back home in the jungles of India we have tigers and jaguars on the open grasslands we have lions and I have been around long enough to know the lion is the most deadly it will impose it's will sometimes randomly killing whereas a tiger or jaguar kills not for dominance but for food lions are incredibly powerful and smart
Lions are bigger but the south american jaguar is stronger. Its jaws are the most powerful between the felines and it is the onli cat that can eat the bones of its victims. Also it hunts byitself and not with 10 other female lions. The jaguar can grab a 150 pound prey and jump a 10 feet wall without touching the edge.
@juniorguerra444 junior sit your ass down your only saying that jaquars will lions because they are from your country if the jaq saw a lion that shit will run up the tree i dont give a fuck how big his jaws are...leopards carry their prey up the tree to that shit ant new
foolish americans. the dont know anything about outside america.they have seen only american animals so they thinking these are the big animals. jaguar is just like a leopard. nothing more than that. Lion is far bigger than this jaguar and the Tiger is twice the size.
@thengamam youre aware that pound for pound the jaguar is the strongest animal in the feline family and has the strongest bite in the feline family (second for mammals only behind hyenas) and there have been jaguars spotted up to the size of tigers.
@thengamam Strange that you think you can speak for all Americans. Do you plot all of our destinies and travels around the world and have instincts about how much knowledge each of us possess? I highly doubt it.
even when a Jaguar belongs to the same Family as Leopards, Tigers and Lions (Panthera) so it would still be hard to win against a Tiger or Lion (which are the biggest of the Big Cats)
Uh, so what's the point of all this conjecture about lions vs jaguars? Actually, there is no point to it. These animals don't even live on the same continent with one another, so they will never even meet in the wild to have an encounter of any kind, violent or otherwise. So who cares which one is theoretically more powerful than the other? It is a completely pointless exercise of opinion about something that doesn't matter in the first place. Each is an apex predator where they live.
why do people who like other cats over lions always try to compare the cat they like to the lion? that is how I know lions rule!! because people who like other cats always have to explain why with a loser ass video that's usually exaggerated lol.
people need to really grouw up,you waste all this time comparing animals,looking for footage to support your bias on silly petty things.instead of addressing issue that affect all these animals like trophy hunters who kill these animals and are taking their numbers to the blink,an idiot posts shit.tigers are being killed for chinese demand of their parts,same is happening to lions now as a substitute,what do you think is next,yo beloved jaguar,so grow up and invest your energy in conservation
the lion didnt see the jaguar.. just scared of the sound.. he might though there is a big huge cat behind the wall.. but i am sure once he see the jaguar he will roll laughing on the ground while saying: hahahaha WTF.. small cat with big sound!
You're correct, lions are facing extinction in Africa. People go on Safari trips and receive rewards for shooting innocent animals. Same with the tigers. By the end of our lifetimes, if these beautiful animals are still with us, I will be in shock.
mate, if u hear a fox or a rat in the woods and u dont no what it is u would run!! but ido love the jaguar but i dont think they would win in a fight with the king of the jungle. a brown heyena has the strongest bite force of any animals and they dont put up a fight.
para mais informações !, jaguar é a mesma onça pintada do brazil !
o nome "onça" vem da lingua indigena tupi guarani eu significa " aquele que nata de um só golpe" é constatado que a onça ou jaguar,tem o tapa mais forte que do leão e a mordida também. ela é o rei da amazõnia
Wow Does this person Hate lions or something ? Haha Worst Besides This person needs to learn how to spell Also get ur facts Right & stop bullshitting !
lmao i should take all my comments down already because mostly all this post an jaguar fanboys fuckin stoop to the lowest levels an lie an make up there own bullshit stories of lions were killed by jaguars wen u can spot the bullshit dates an wrong spelling on there so call documents lmao a male african lion will fucking shred a jaguar end of story just like a pitbull bull would maul a house cat the cat would leave a few scratches an scraps but would be left in pieces same with the jaguar LMAO!!
Dear poster, can you please post this video again after someone has checked your spelling. Your interesting information will be much more authoritative if you do this.
@Back2Dixie Dude, yes they do. lions may weigh more but weight isnt everything. the jaguar has the strongest bite because after it kills its prey it has to drag it up a 10-15 foot tree. also, it kills its prey by crushing the skull. the lion suffocates its prey. it also cant crush the skull of their prey because they DONT HAVE ENOUGH POWER IN THEIR JAW. the hyena also has a harder bite because even though its a scavenger, it can bite through bone. all the lion has is hype and more weight.
@T1gersandL1ons UHH Excuse the pun but u are retarded as the videos show the Jaguar in 95% of time is the winner.Weight has no meaning when the two cats square off.The jag has much more agility and strength as u would see a jaguar carrying its kill up a tree.The lion hunts in numbers needing many to bring down its pray.The Jaguar hunts solo and kills with greater efficiency.The lion may seem to be KING,but the Tiger is KING of all cats,The Jaguar and Leopard second ,Lion third fact not fiction
I think you should do your homework before posting. Males lions weigh as much as 500 pound while male jaguars weigh only 260 ponds. So there is no chance a jaguar can beat a lion.
every bad move a lion makes is being interpreted to make a lion weak and inferior. Guys, every animal fight in youtube, 75 percent is that of a lion. If you fight 100 times, in that 100 times probably there was 1 or 5 there were a mistake move. That is normal. no one is perfect. But to interpret it as a weakness is wrong. How many times a very good boxer and undefeated were hit in all his fights?
are u kidding me a male lion in its prime is heavier stronger more aggressive in nature and born to protect and fight for it territory young and females an african male lion in its prime weighting 500lbs will desomate a jaguar no matter the bite force!! no match! lion king of beasts!
How could u believe the jaguar win the Lion. Haha jaguar no door. How many people say that ? These people should give me evidence video what I can see ------> The correct idiots
point in fact Lions are not fighters and will almost always pick flight over fight, only time it does not is if and when it is very hungry also male lions mostly just sit around wile the fems to the hunting. size does matter in the animal world but keep in mind so does agression.
jaguars are proportionally stronger than both. lions kill by suffocation, tiger kill by breaking the spine, and jaguars crush skulls. weight dosen't determine strength jaguars bite with over 2,000 pounds of force twice that of the lion and tiger
I wouldn't mind the jaguar winning but realistically the lion is bigger and stronger. In the wild a full grown adult male lion in his prime can easily break an adult buffalo spine with one blow to it. I imagine it can do the same to a smaller foe like a jaguar
"By contrast, a study of the Jaguar in the Brazilian Pantanal region found average weights of 100 kilograms (220 lb) and weights of 136 kilograms (300 lb) or more are not uncommon in old males." It appears that 300 pounds is for large, old specimens. In reality, the Pantanal Jaguar is only about 50% larger than Puma or Leopard.
It's only theoretical...an full grown male jaguar will not stand a chance against a full grown lion, but against a lioness, I guess the jaguar could put on some challenge though in the end, lioness should win. Just be realistic, there hasn't been any recorded fights between them so far...only lions vs tigers could be seen in Youtube with various results. The maker of this vid was like predicting a fight between Mike Tyson vs Manny Pacqiaou...where both aren't in the same category.
Not true. Recently some studies suggested that the Lion and the Jaguar would both struggle alike if both were to face each other. Now there were a lot of advantages and disadvantages for both, but i don't remember. I think the report is on goggle, I read it on a magazine research but i lost it long ago. I wouldn't like to see them fight though. I like both cats
@ARNAKLDO I don't know about that, but I believe not all studies are accurate. I'd like to read the article first & on what ground did they assume lion will struggle against a jaguar? I'm not belittling jaguar here,but I've yet to see a fight between the two, so my bet is on the lion coz I've seen how dangerous male lions are especially against their Sub-Sahara African rival, the hyenas. I've seen a footage of jaguar defeating a boa,but that's totally different from a fight against a male lion.
Jaguars are the strongest cats pound for pound, with the strongest bites and the most robust physique for a cat. At equal sizes, it can defeat and kill a lion or tiger. But in most cases tigers and lions are to big for the jaguar anyway, so tigers and lions win.
Jaguars are excellent swimmers and also climb trees very well and has enough agility, I'm sure the fight is in the forest or water the jaguar has serious chances to win!
Love big cats and Jaguars are awesome...But male African Lions weigh from between 300-550 pounds at full maturity and female lions can weigh up to 400 pounds. Sorry no Jaguar in the world is going to get very far against a full size male with a large mane. The manes are there for a reason and it's protection against bites in fights against other large cats.
A Lion Will Fuck A Jaguar Up Full Stop. Sick Of Fags Trying 2 Promote The Jaguar Like Its Something Its Not. If Its Your Fav Thats Fine Just Dont Force it On Others Like A Religion.
i agree .... a jaguar has no chances against a lion or tiger the size matters.... but maybe he could easely defeat a leopard or coguar ....the bite power is only a feature but doesn ' t means a sure victory cause other important factors ..... surely he is the third meaning feline after lion and tiger.
shut up jaguars are cool, same with leopards and panthers. lions and tigers are just big selfish fat bullies who want the lunchbox for them selves, while the leopard gets chased off, then has to provide for her ONE starving kit, while the wealthy lions have a whole heard of wilderbeast in hand and the leopard has liek what, a little gazel and a monkey? niiiice, real niiice.
@Zypnick Im pretty sure a tiger would beat jaguar, they have similar instincts and mentality, just that the tiger is bigger and stronger overall (even if pound for pound the jaguar is stronger)
@Zypnick The tiger again, even though Ligers are huge, and no doubts they are strong but if you see a video of one, their proportions are awkward and clumsy. Most ligers have short limbs and massive torsos, this would make it a big target that isnt able to strike back very easily.
this animal's better than this one blah blah blah. how bout u appreciate all wild cats and use the energy for making debate videos like this, and use it for awareness of their plight in the wild
Ya know, there is a HUGE difference between 'so-called' 'Entrapped' animals, than Wild animals. Go get some actual footage of a male Lion backing away from a Jaguar, then I'll take you seriously!
Lions are known to kill jagaurs in the wild and every cat in africa runs from the male lion this is a fact, why are you trying to make put out false info. dumbfuck
@fra750 lmao in the wild?? jaguars are only in the americas (from mexico to the tip of south america) and last i checked aint no african lions in the americas
Its cool you support the jaguar and i even admit they are heavier than i first thought but Male Lions stand about 123cm at the sholder and male jaguar 67-76 im sure the jaguar would be intimidated by the lions size.160kg is considered to be a large male jaguar where as a large male lion is considered 200kg+. Lions win.
This is so stupid! you have shown 1 or 2 pictures and think thats enough evidence. Anyone can write a jaguar killed 20 Lions if theres no video evidence its bullshit.
the strongest wild cat well simply because the male lion doesnt even hunt the female lions supply him with food the male simply just fights other males and sometime help the female capture pray but is not a great hunter himself
@koolpost False he is a great hunter but he need to watch his land, they barely last 3-6years on a land b4 young lions take over, they don't hunt cause they don't want to but they have other thing to do.
under a tree and a fully grown jaguar sneak up on him and jumped from above and delivered a perfect bite to his scull he would crack a lions scull instantly and the lion would die so to all u people out there who keep saying stupid things like know what u are saying and that the noone can beat the lion is untrue lion is not
there teeth and there jaws are design to penetrate armor plating of turtles and crocodiles wich they mostly hunt and the way they kill they pray is mostly to deliver a fatal blow to the skull rather then most cats try to sufficate there pray so nature gave them a very powerfull bite otherwise they would just not be able to catch and eat there pray so if it actually happend that a male lion was being in a shade
took to the water the lion would not be effective at delivering strikes on jaguar ..then a jaguar is a great climber just like a leopard and they also use stealthy attacks not like lions who fight in the open so if a jaguar attacks from a tree and deliver a fatal blow a lion would be very badly hurt .. then a jaguar has the strongest bite out of all the big cats and thats because on the jaguar diet
ok guys for people who are saying that a lion would kill a jaguar its a pretty biast asumption itself first off all the lion doesnt incounter a jaguar in real life to fight it it usually fights other male lions to protect its pride second of all lion has a poor stamina compared to a jaguar.. then lions are not great swimmers so if the fight
Dude the lion here is in a zoo he was probably not used to the presence of an animal next to him if the fence was gone the female lion would easily kill the Jag an average Jag is like 200 -250 lbs and check your facts cause a male lion is like 550 lbs not 300 i weigh almost 300 lbs a female is around 300 to 400 pounds and that weight advantage is decisive
@LiNaK37 However, combat experience does. Male lions, in the wild, grow up fighting each other. They're social animals and as such, they learn to survive in a fight. More importantly they have thick manes that will protect them against the jaguar's natural kill tactic of going for the throat. Better armor + better experience + better instincts = lion destroys jaguar. In fact, we'd probably get a Liguar out of it, cause that's some rape.
@LeonDawson11 Lesnar vs Velasquez. Edgar vs Penn. Fedor vs 99% of the people he fought. Igor Vovchanchyn vs 75% of the people he fought. Penn vs Hughes. Etc, etc, etc. Again, weight doesn't mean shit.
@LiNaK37 You are either a teenager or your IQ is in the teens, as physics, by logical application of common sense, has everything to do with what we're saying.
@LeonDawson11 Why would I care if a few physicists disagree? They are physicists. Not biologists. Wolverines generally way about 50 pounds. Do you know what they can kill? Bears. Bears weighing several hundred pounds. Also, yes, technically physics does have to do something with anything involving moving weight.
@LiNaK37 Argument isn't about animals anymore, it turned to your eloquent statement of "Weight doesn't mean shit." I was simply arguing that your statement was wrong overall as definitely weight does have an influence on physical confrontations ie. a 350 Ibs Jaguar getting into a scrap with a 280 Ibs one. Advantage- SIZE(weight)!
@LiNaK37... if weight and size dont matter then why do many animals posture their weight and size before choosing to fight, a display that ususally ends up with the smaller animal retreating....
@LiNaK37... yea but thats such a naive answer... ok so if i go by your theory what if a jaguar met a bigger jaguar? they would have equal chances of winning....
Usain bolt... fastest man on earth 6'5?... thats a big guy
even you as a person, imagine how strong and quick you are now... then think if you were bigger (not fatter) then wouldnt your physical attributes also increase? that includes power speed everything
dude im 5'9 and i know if i was 6'5 and at the same level of fitness i would run faster hit harder etc
@mbpatelss4 True, true. But in combat, especially when comparing different species, you can't determine it based on size. That's what I'm trying to say.
@LiNaK37 lmao i would debate with u if dis video wasn't made from a 9 years old kids opinion on how a jaguar record breaking weights of 315 pounds can take on a african male lion with records of 800s but both average with jaguars from 100-200 pounds to a lion that averages 400-600 pounds 2 male lions have dived into packs of 18 an more hyenas have stronger bite forces than jags give me a fuckin break a male african lion would leave a male jaguar in pieces n house cats have scared bears off
@bigwaverider1000 lions are lazy and dont hunt prey often they mostly eat what female lions get them and lions aren't strong enough to take on 18 packs of hyenas cuz it will get killed
@jjgh2423 lmao give me a break am i talking to a kid,read a book,watch the nature chanel look on the internet 2 adult males need around 25 to push back there are hundreds of videos on youtube an national geographic shows once they kill the matriarchs the packs scatter an get picked off one by one,do yourself a favor an look before you talk not all males have mates so whos gonna hunt for them there mom lmao even males with prides help out females teach the teens an the whole family feasts after
@bigwaverider1000 its more than just weight dumbshit most scientists of felinology agree tha the Jaguar is VERY underrated as a fighter and would beat a lion or tiger
@TheLazyPinecone No shit if a wolverine managed to kill a polar bear that out weighed him by 1700 pounds then weight isint always the main factor but we are talking on average dumb fuck not 1 in a millions a male lion vs a male jaguar would be 9/10 lion, the only way hed win is by chance not probabilty of being on same level in attributes you get it asshole? I geuss you mani paciao would beat Muhammad ali XDXD
@bigwaverider1000 there you go again makin the fight all about weigh!t weight! weight! ya its a big factor BUT THERE ARE BIGGER FACTORS u goddamned faggot i dont know if i have to repeat myself again the claws are sharper and more curved giving it a better slicing effect also its teeth are the sharpest and have some of the same characteristics of there claws! its called RESEARCH u fuckin gaylord! :D
@TheLazyPinecone And what scientist said a jaguar would beat a lion or tiger they just said they have a harder psi bite stop making shit up. A snapping turtle, crocidile ,hippo,hyena all have harder bites than a jaguar but they still get killed from lions an tigers. its not only about one thing that excels its about the overall verdict in what they are capable of dumb ass.
@bigwaverider1000 omfg u have the shittiest fuckin brain once again its called RESEARCH do i have to spell it out for you! also ur a damn hypocrite and a copier u took what i said and used it against me ! I cant believe u would stoop that low! what are u 5!?
@bigwaverider1000 now you go to changing the damn subject! and what are u 10? like seriously if u want to prove me wrong! PROVE ME WRONG! dont just curse and come up with your stupid stories!
@TheLazyPinecone LOL, Take your pills because you sound like your head is going to pop. XD XD Theres a video of a mountain lion punking and slapping around a jaguar. The world knows that pumas are 1/4th the size of african lions, so you do the logic in there. Im guessing you must think a 150 pound soccer player can push around a 500 pound sumo wrestler. XD XD
Take your meds becaus you aint fooling no one JACK!! You know what JACK runs?
@bigwaverider1000 So what do you think would happen in a fight between the two at equal weights? Are you simply judging weight as the deciding factor in a fight? Would you like to see a 140lb Navy SEAL beat the hell out of another man twice his size? How about 4 lb Colt .45 vs. 45 real colts.
@AxeVEVO lol, Another chump, that has no evidence of what your talking about. Huh!
Yeah show me that video of a 140 pound man beating up a 280 pound man where? Is that video! Come on show me! You cant why because your full of shit! Just like the guy below me making shit up with no proof.
lol You chumps like to live your lives threw lies, makes you a pussy an just shows how much your whole family must be just hot air as well, because no self respectable man would lie as much as you chumps do!
@bigwaverider1000 lol...Stop acting like a screaming little girl. There are plenty of video's I could show you. Shit..Go look at the old Royce Gracie fights. He beat up a ton of people twice is size. There were no weight classes back in the old UFC. I think you are the pussy. No self respectable man would not know who Royce Gracie is. I bet you were never even in the military. What a pussy. :/
@AxeVEVO lmao Royce grace was 180 pounds in the old ufc. Show me the exact video where he fought a 360 pound man? wheres that video? 360pounds is 2x of 180 as he claims royce, never fought any one that size.
- Wake the fuck up I said 150 pound man trying to push a 500 pound sumo do you fucking get it? The weight isint small in differences its huge you dumb fuck before we even continue on.
- Show me that fight where royce gracie fought a 360 pound man lol you cant again your both FULL OF SHIT.
@AxeVEVO HUH! Pussy? why do you have to be in the military to conjure up thats the only way a man can fight? wow your the fucking bitch! HUH!
- Give me a fucking break My brother was side blind from a drunk military scrub, in a bar at waikiki my brother countered him with a flury, that punk bitch went down and hit his head and died now my brother has been in jail for just defending himself.
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look that up if you need resources type in my bros name aysa dellasntos in youtube.you fucking fagot
@bigwaverider1000 You wanted an example and I gave you one. But now I see where you are going with this. Your brother, a really large guy, killed some poor little dude so you think every fat bastard is supposed to win every fight because size and not skill is what matters. Well I hate to tell you, but not every Marine is infantry and being an ex Navy guy I have taken on plenty of them and won so you can still kiss my ass bitch.
A subspecies is emerging which the experts have named the Duba swamp lion, as opposed to the jungle lion, the desert lion, or the lion of the mainland African plain. It is distinctive in appearance, with a bigger, thicker neck and an extra-strong chest. We should perhaps not be surprised to witness the lion adapt to its environment. Lions once ranged throughout Europe, Asia, Africa and North America, becoming extinct in Europe around 2,000 years ago.
Arumeas 1 day ago
Kingdoms have risen to greatness and fallen into obscurity and mediocrity throughout history. I suspect that something similar has taken place in the animal kingdom, particularly with the big cats.
Arumeas 1 day ago
It seems lion populations may have suffered a decline not only in their numbers throughout the old world, but they may have suffered a decline in over-all fortitude over these past several centuries as well. The Dubs Lion prides may represent a glimps and return of their past glory when their numbers and genetic make-up was more stable.
Arumeas 1 day ago
Tigers are obviously bigger and stronger than the average lion because of the geographic location and daily activities. Those Tigers living in colder climates are significantly larger than those living in warmer climates as a necessity. In ancient times, the Romans sited a male lion that never lost a fight, not even against a tiger or leopard. Back then there were one or two subspecies of big mean Tiger that are now extinct.
Arumeas 1 day ago
The Duba lions of the South African plains are much bigger and muscular than the lions in the northern and eastern parts of Africa. Thanks to their steady diet of buffalo and daily swimming activities during the hunt. Lions have been 6nown to dislike water, but can easily adapt to aquatic life when the need for food calls them to it. Those prides who take to water are naturally stronger and lager than those who don’t because swimming is a resistance activity that builds muscle.
Arumeas 1 day ago
"There is an unusual pride of lions stalking these swamps," he says. "They are cats that live in water and hunt a single herd of Cape buffalo. Evolution favours predators that can hunt a range of prey. But these lions are defying that trend by becoming specialists. These huge lions are adapting and breeding in isolation on an island in a river that goes nowhere."
Arumeas 1 day ago
In a remote corner of Africa, an extraordinary evolutionary tale is unfolding, uncovered by the actor Jeremy Irons and an award-winning documentary team. A new film, Relentless Enemies, will tell the story of the emergence of a distinct subspecies of big cat on a tiny and isolated island in the Duba Plains of Botswana's Okavango Delta.
Arumeas 1 day ago
Fearless, ferocious and mightier than the world has ever seen, this is the new breed of super-lion. Only one species of prey holds its attention: the buffalo ? and in order to bring its powerful foe to the ground, it will take to deep water, use sophisticated hunting techniques and then silence the gigantic beast with a single swipe of a savage paw.
Arumeas 1 day ago
I think we under estimate the potential of all of these magnificent creatures. Lions have lived in various parts of the world under different climates and conditions, possessing varying degrees of size, temperament and strength potentials. The Atlas lion is believed to be extinct, but sightings have been made of this subspecies have been suspected in the northwestern part of Africa. It seems that there were giant lions in America and Europe for a long period in history.
Arumeas 1 day ago
Male lions weigh between 390 and 430 pounds on average, but one male weighed 690 pounds..Females generally weigh between 270 and 315 pounds. Weight (of male African lions) depends upon geographic location, available prey, gender, age, and health.
It has been noted that lions of South Africa are frequently larger than those of East Africa, subject to differing prey selection.
Arumeas 1 day ago
let me kill this debate this person is a tiger fan hes basically making this video to say dont compare tiger and lions compare jaguars and lions loool fuck off lions is the king the african lion that is
abdi1983 2 days ago
you know what makes me laugh? people who make these video's but dont get involved in the comments lol they make a stupid video and kick back lion getting killed by a jag? looool that jaq wont even mess with a lioness
abdi1983 2 days ago
1st u people prove jaguar will win against leopard. Then we can discuss abt face a lion or tiger.
such a funny video this is..
thengamam 1 week ago
@thengamam what??what a donkey..type jaguar vs anaconda and see what comes up
RajakarSLAYER 1 week ago
@RajakarSLAYER
ha ha jaguar beating anacodanda is big think for u...not for me.. U should try to learn what is Lion and Tiger..King of beasts
thengamam 2 days ago
whoever made this video is an idiot!often most jags do not reach 300lb 2nd a stronger bite doesnt mean a better win,a hyena has a stronger bite yet will lose to a lion easy..a wolf will lose easy to a caucasian ovarchark etc. a stonger bite doesnt mean advantage over a fight,a stronger man doesnt mean a better fighter against some one whos weaker yet has skillz dumbass poster...a lion never lose to a jaguar idiot
CrashArtSkillz 1 week ago
Male lion would decimate jaguar back home in the jungles of India we have tigers and jaguars on the open grasslands we have lions and I have been around long enough to know the lion is the most deadly it will impose it's will sometimes randomly killing whereas a tiger or jaguar kills not for dominance but for food lions are incredibly powerful and smart
saroya1919 2 weeks ago
Lions are bigger but the south american jaguar is stronger. Its jaws are the most powerful between the felines and it is the onli cat that can eat the bones of its victims. Also it hunts byitself and not with 10 other female lions. The jaguar can grab a 150 pound prey and jump a 10 feet wall without touching the edge.
I go for the jaguar.
juniorguerra444 2 weeks ago
@juniorguerra444 junior sit your ass down your only saying that jaquars will lions because they are from your country if the jaq saw a lion that shit will run up the tree i dont give a fuck how big his jaws are...leopards carry their prey up the tree to that shit ant new
abdi1983 2 days ago
foolish americans. the dont know anything about outside america.they have seen only american animals so they thinking these are the big animals. jaguar is just like a leopard. nothing more than that. Lion is far bigger than this jaguar and the Tiger is twice the size.
thengamam 2 weeks ago
@thengamam youre aware that pound for pound the jaguar is the strongest animal in the feline family and has the strongest bite in the feline family (second for mammals only behind hyenas) and there have been jaguars spotted up to the size of tigers.
robd852 2 weeks ago
@robd852 yeah there's lions spotted the size of elephants to
abdi1983 2 days ago
@thengamam Strange that you think you can speak for all Americans. Do you plot all of our destinies and travels around the world and have instincts about how much knowledge each of us possess? I highly doubt it.
ifluvinguiswrong 1 week ago
I've seen jaguars many times but they're much smaller than lions.
tenoderaaridifolia 2 weeks ago 2
jaguars are gods!!!!!
donmahucutah 3 weeks ago
Hahaha omfg what an idiot ! You should inform yourself before you make those ridiculous videos there is no way a wild jaguar can kill a wild lion
platelegs 3 weeks ago
@platelegs what would yew comment if the wild jaguar is actually a black jaguar =p
07maax 3 weeks ago
even when a Jaguar belongs to the same Family as Leopards, Tigers and Lions (Panthera) so it would still be hard to win against a Tiger or Lion (which are the biggest of the Big Cats)
Mad9977 1 month ago
Uh, so what's the point of all this conjecture about lions vs jaguars? Actually, there is no point to it. These animals don't even live on the same continent with one another, so they will never even meet in the wild to have an encounter of any kind, violent or otherwise. So who cares which one is theoretically more powerful than the other? It is a completely pointless exercise of opinion about something that doesn't matter in the first place. Each is an apex predator where they live.
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why do people who like other cats over lions always try to compare the cat they like to the lion? that is how I know lions rule!! because people who like other cats always have to explain why with a loser ass video that's usually exaggerated lol.
thedollhouse10 1 month ago
pfp the jaguar is stronger but h2h the lion is stronger, plain and simple
combatesdeboxeo 1 month ago
300 pounds a jaguar hahaha lmao haahaha
combatesdeboxeo 1 month ago
this video is a joke just like you, a lion would rape the little jaguar any day, end of the history, not even close
combatesdeboxeo 1 month ago
people need to really grouw up,you waste all this time comparing animals,looking for footage to support your bias on silly petty things.instead of addressing issue that affect all these animals like trophy hunters who kill these animals and are taking their numbers to the blink,an idiot posts shit.tigers are being killed for chinese demand of their parts,same is happening to lions now as a substitute,what do you think is next,yo beloved jaguar,so grow up and invest your energy in conservation
tigerbeast777 1 month ago
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clutch23q 1 month ago
i study about these things
Xxfasoo0oolyxX 1 month ago
im in college i studu about these things
Xxfasoo0oolyxX 1 month ago
@tonyfressoia...WELL SAID!
lissalives1 2 months ago
the lion didnt see the jaguar.. just scared of the sound.. he might though there is a big huge cat behind the wall.. but i am sure once he see the jaguar he will roll laughing on the ground while saying: hahahaha WTF.. small cat with big sound!
sultanheart 2 months ago
You're correct, lions are facing extinction in Africa. People go on Safari trips and receive rewards for shooting innocent animals. Same with the tigers. By the end of our lifetimes, if these beautiful animals are still with us, I will be in shock.
tonyfressola 2 months ago
If the jaguar was the size of a lion , it would easily own a lion or a tiger , but its not so the lion essentially wins.
mynameszz 2 months ago
mate, if u hear a fox or a rat in the woods and u dont no what it is u would run!! but ido love the jaguar but i dont think they would win in a fight with the king of the jungle. a brown heyena has the strongest bite force of any animals and they dont put up a fight.
lionmankyle83 3 months ago
@lionmankyle83 jaguar's the true king of the jungle.
mkocja5a 1 month ago
Jaguar may be powerful but I would still go for a Ferrari..LOL
aragornn23 3 months ago 9
JAGUAR POWER!!! nice video thanks you
sinpiedad09 4 months ago
These Beast vs Beast videos are almost as bad as pub fights over which football team is the best.
ZdenekJindra 4 months ago
The lion weighs 250 kg at most whilst tigers can weigh 350 kg.
fanaber70 4 months ago
Of all cats, the jaguar has the most powerful jaws, second of all mammals after the hyena.
fanaber70 4 months ago
para mais informações !, jaguar é a mesma onça pintada do brazil !
o nome "onça" vem da lingua indigena tupi guarani eu significa " aquele que nata de um só golpe" é constatado que a onça ou jaguar,tem o tapa mais forte que do leão e a mordida também. ela é o rei da amazõnia
MrAdriano1000 4 months ago
cool music faggot
JohnnyJohn118 4 months ago
Wow Does this person Hate lions or something ? Haha Worst Besides This person needs to learn how to spell Also get ur facts Right & stop bullshitting !
ayowillyg 4 months ago
lmao i should take all my comments down already because mostly all this post an jaguar fanboys fuckin stoop to the lowest levels an lie an make up there own bullshit stories of lions were killed by jaguars wen u can spot the bullshit dates an wrong spelling on there so call documents lmao a male african lion will fucking shred a jaguar end of story just like a pitbull bull would maul a house cat the cat would leave a few scratches an scraps but would be left in pieces same with the jaguar LMAO!!
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jjgh2423 5 months ago
they remind me so much of miracinonyx, huge bite force and around 300 lbs, go jaguars!
Cheetree1 5 months ago
cheetahs ftw! :D
Cheetree1 5 months ago
More Lion Haters!!!!! Well if a jag will beat a lion, it can beat a tiger as well... Haters!!
mitzlerdub 5 months ago
@mitzlerdub your so right next thing you know jaguars will be known for killing giraffes gimme a break...
thedollhouse10 5 months ago
Dear poster, can you please post this video again after someone has checked your spelling. Your interesting information will be much more authoritative if you do this.
holboroman 5 months ago
um...lets make it perfectly clear that black jaguars are my favorite animal..but as much as i like them i honestly think a lion would win in a fight
proedition15 5 months ago
Jaguar reminds me of Mike Tyson. Lion reminds me of Hulk Hogan.
waterturki 5 months ago
What is the difference between a leopard jaguar and panther?
please help.
fuckturks2223 5 months ago
Jaguars have the strongest bite force of any animal on the planet besides the Hyena... Crazy stuff
xKODIAKx91 6 months ago
@xKODIAKx91 No they do not! Check your facts. Jags have the same as lions and tigers.
Back2Dixie 5 months ago
@Back2Dixie Dude, yes they do. lions may weigh more but weight isnt everything. the jaguar has the strongest bite because after it kills its prey it has to drag it up a 10-15 foot tree. also, it kills its prey by crushing the skull. the lion suffocates its prey. it also cant crush the skull of their prey because they DONT HAVE ENOUGH POWER IN THEIR JAW. the hyena also has a harder bite because even though its a scavenger, it can bite through bone. all the lion has is hype and more weight.
xKODIAKx91 5 months ago
@T1gersandL1ons UHH Excuse the pun but u are retarded as the videos show the Jaguar in 95% of time is the winner.Weight has no meaning when the two cats square off.The jag has much more agility and strength as u would see a jaguar carrying its kill up a tree.The lion hunts in numbers needing many to bring down its pray.The Jaguar hunts solo and kills with greater efficiency.The lion may seem to be KING,but the Tiger is KING of all cats,The Jaguar and Leopard second ,Lion third fact not fiction
PETESEYESBLUE 6 months ago
Bull shit . jaguar is very strong but the lion is The strongest ever
logic441 6 months ago
I think you should do your homework before posting. Males lions weigh as much as 500 pound while male jaguars weigh only 260 ponds. So there is no chance a jaguar can beat a lion.
restaurant19 6 months ago
every bad move a lion makes is being interpreted to make a lion weak and inferior. Guys, every animal fight in youtube, 75 percent is that of a lion. If you fight 100 times, in that 100 times probably there was 1 or 5 there were a mistake move. That is normal. no one is perfect. But to interpret it as a weakness is wrong. How many times a very good boxer and undefeated were hit in all his fights?
TierraCorta 6 months ago
are u kidding me a male lion in its prime is heavier stronger more aggressive in nature and born to protect and fight for it territory young and females an african male lion in its prime weighting 500lbs will desomate a jaguar no matter the bite force!! no match! lion king of beasts!
musvlehead 6 months ago
How could u believe the jaguar win the Lion. Haha jaguar no door. How many people say that ? These people should give me evidence video what I can see ------> The correct idiots
ngulolz 6 months ago
point in fact Lions are not fighters and will almost always pick flight over fight, only time it does not is if and when it is very hungry also male lions mostly just sit around wile the fems to the hunting. size does matter in the animal world but keep in mind so does agression.
moletab 6 months ago
jaguar is no match to a lion. you underestimate the power of a lion.
cageybee777 6 months ago
jaguars are proportionally stronger than both. lions kill by suffocation, tiger kill by breaking the spine, and jaguars crush skulls. weight dosen't determine strength jaguars bite with over 2,000 pounds of force twice that of the lion and tiger
savage2311 6 months ago
I wouldn't mind the jaguar winning but realistically the lion is bigger and stronger. In the wild a full grown adult male lion in his prime can easily break an adult buffalo spine with one blow to it. I imagine it can do the same to a smaller foe like a jaguar
VryDeranged 7 months ago
someone needs more time in english and writing class.
Fifty9Fifty808 7 months ago
what a load of shit, Male lion has no rival as a fighting machine
scott29298 7 months ago
"By contrast, a study of the Jaguar in the Brazilian Pantanal region found average weights of 100 kilograms (220 lb) and weights of 136 kilograms (300 lb) or more are not uncommon in old males." It appears that 300 pounds is for large, old specimens. In reality, the Pantanal Jaguar is only about 50% larger than Puma or Leopard.
N00bcrunch3r 7 months ago
It's only theoretical...an full grown male jaguar will not stand a chance against a full grown lion, but against a lioness, I guess the jaguar could put on some challenge though in the end, lioness should win. Just be realistic, there hasn't been any recorded fights between them so far...only lions vs tigers could be seen in Youtube with various results. The maker of this vid was like predicting a fight between Mike Tyson vs Manny Pacqiaou...where both aren't in the same category.
pitmie 8 months ago
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Not true. Recently some studies suggested that the Lion and the Jaguar would both struggle alike if both were to face each other. Now there were a lot of advantages and disadvantages for both, but i don't remember. I think the report is on goggle, I read it on a magazine research but i lost it long ago. I wouldn't like to see them fight though. I like both cats
ARNAKLDO 7 months ago
@ARNAKLDO I don't know about that, but I believe not all studies are accurate. I'd like to read the article first & on what ground did they assume lion will struggle against a jaguar? I'm not belittling jaguar here,but I've yet to see a fight between the two, so my bet is on the lion coz I've seen how dangerous male lions are especially against their Sub-Sahara African rival, the hyenas. I've seen a footage of jaguar defeating a boa,but that's totally different from a fight against a male lion.
pitmie 7 months ago
Jaguars are the strongest cats pound for pound, with the strongest bites and the most robust physique for a cat. At equal sizes, it can defeat and kill a lion or tiger. But in most cases tigers and lions are to big for the jaguar anyway, so tigers and lions win.
maxsnax217 8 months ago
And a mouse killed a lion !
TIRYAKOUN 8 months ago
Male lions can weigh up to 700 pounds a jag would be lucky to get to 300. A more fair compairison would be tiger vs lion.
tootlepuff 8 months ago
Jaguars are excellent swimmers and also climb trees very well and has enough agility, I'm sure the fight is in the forest or water the jaguar has serious chances to win!
luavelha2 8 months ago
Love big cats and Jaguars are awesome...But male African Lions weigh from between 300-550 pounds at full maturity and female lions can weigh up to 400 pounds. Sorry no Jaguar in the world is going to get very far against a full size male with a large mane. The manes are there for a reason and it's protection against bites in fights against other large cats.
GShaneJackson 8 months ago
A Lion Will Fuck A Jaguar Up Full Stop. Sick Of Fags Trying 2 Promote The Jaguar Like Its Something Its Not. If Its Your Fav Thats Fine Just Dont Force it On Others Like A Religion.
milcme 8 months ago
Thumbs down for the stupid ass music.
misterclownface 9 months ago
This is how i rate the predetores:
1. Lion
2. Tiger
3. Jaguar
4. Lepoard
5. Hyena.
6 Geopard
mikkelesel 9 months ago
this video is crazy. jaguars are bigger and stronger than lions. next we'll hear jaguars are killing elephants or grizzly bears
tonyfressola 9 months ago
@tonyfressola tigers can kill grizzly bears and elephants
MrDisturbedskater 9 months ago
i agree .... a jaguar has no chances against a lion or tiger the size matters.... but maybe he could easely defeat a leopard or coguar ....the bite power is only a feature but doesn ' t means a sure victory cause other important factors ..... surely he is the third meaning feline after lion and tiger.
TEXTUDO 9 months ago
shut up jaguars are cool, same with leopards and panthers. lions and tigers are just big selfish fat bullies who want the lunchbox for them selves, while the leopard gets chased off, then has to provide for her ONE starving kit, while the wealthy lions have a whole heard of wilderbeast in hand and the leopard has liek what, a little gazel and a monkey? niiiice, real niiice.
Inyourface209 9 months ago
tiger vs jaguar who wins???? someone answer
Zypnick 10 months ago
@Zypnick Im pretty sure a tiger would beat jaguar, they have similar instincts and mentality, just that the tiger is bigger and stronger overall (even if pound for pound the jaguar is stronger)
BVargas78 9 months ago
@BVargas78 liger vs tiger who wins?
Zypnick 9 months ago
@Zypnick The tiger again, even though Ligers are huge, and no doubts they are strong but if you see a video of one, their proportions are awkward and clumsy. Most ligers have short limbs and massive torsos, this would make it a big target that isnt able to strike back very easily.
BVargas78 9 months ago
@BVargas78 so what animal is stronger than a tiger on land (when I think about it..tiger are pretty much the kings of the jungle)
Zypnick 9 months ago
@Zypnick Im not sure, possibly a grizzly bear or polar could beat a tiger. But I wouldnt be able to say for sure.
BVargas78 9 months ago
Thumps up if you think Jaguar can totally KILL A LION!
TheApoool 10 months ago
i seen jaguars and tigers kill crocs but i never seen a lion kill one yet
JHONELFUEGO 10 months ago
lions are 330 to 550+ pounds, jaguars 200 to 350+ pounds. All members of the cat family are gifted and talented.
maxsnax217 10 months ago
i respect tigers and jaguars most of the other big cats are wimps
theuchihaclan1000 10 months ago
Jaguar 10 power lion 1 power jajajaja
JCORONADO77 10 months ago
i like all big cats, the jaguar, tiger and lion are my favorites. dont think a jaguar can beat a lion as much as i would love to believe that!! sorry
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YTmes 10 months ago
Worst video ever.....and your name is gold chain....hahaha...
Caineheist 11 months ago
and the fence has electricity
jajajames0919 11 months ago
thats a leopard!
jajajames0919 11 months ago
this animal's better than this one blah blah blah. how bout u appreciate all wild cats and use the energy for making debate videos like this, and use it for awareness of their plight in the wild
yutzy1 11 months ago
what if a jaguar meets a tiger?
adriank9 11 months ago
@adriank9 The Tiger Would Win
MesterFo 11 months ago
Ya know, there is a HUGE difference between 'so-called' 'Entrapped' animals, than Wild animals. Go get some actual footage of a male Lion backing away from a Jaguar, then I'll take you seriously!
punchdrive 1 year ago
my house kat would piss all over these big cats... it weighs nearly 10 pounds... beat tht :)
mebecallum 1 year ago
This is retarded theres no real fight
MrSuperSaiyan1000 1 year ago
Lions are known to kill jagaurs in the wild and every cat in africa runs from the male lion this is a fact, why are you trying to make put out false info. dumbfuck
fra750 1 year ago
@fra750 lmao in the wild?? jaguars are only in the americas (from mexico to the tip of south america) and last i checked aint no african lions in the americas
DETROIT2MILWAUKEE 1 year ago
@fra750 Your the one comparing the two, fact remains the lion is much bigger and will kill a jagaur period, keep showing your bulshit video. gaylord
fra750 1 year ago
@fra750 I think you are thinking of the leopard. Not the jaguar.
nblucas97 1 year ago
a jaguar is strong
but against a lion no chance
DirtyDDO 1 year ago
its the electric fence ...
unnecessaryremarks 1 year ago
Its cool you support the jaguar and i even admit they are heavier than i first thought but Male Lions stand about 123cm at the sholder and male jaguar 67-76 im sure the jaguar would be intimidated by the lions size.160kg is considered to be a large male jaguar where as a large male lion is considered 200kg+. Lions win.
RockLeeBdotB 1 year ago
This is so stupid! you have shown 1 or 2 pictures and think thats enough evidence. Anyone can write a jaguar killed 20 Lions if theres no video evidence its bullshit.
RockLeeBdotB 1 year ago
prety sure the lion would win
atctnt 1 year ago
sorry u have to read my comment from bottom to top stupid youtube lol.. still love all the big cats tho
koolpost 1 year ago
the strongest wild cat well simply because the male lion doesnt even hunt the female lions supply him with food the male simply just fights other males and sometime help the female capture pray but is not a great hunter himself
koolpost 1 year ago
@koolpost False he is a great hunter but he need to watch his land, they barely last 3-6years on a land b4 young lions take over, they don't hunt cause they don't want to but they have other thing to do.
TheSydh2o 1 year ago
@koolpost is a man with 15 wife gonna cock ? espacially if there's bad neighbour always try to get in the house?
TheSydh2o 1 year ago
under a tree and a fully grown jaguar sneak up on him and jumped from above and delivered a perfect bite to his scull he would crack a lions scull instantly and the lion would die so to all u people out there who keep saying stupid things like know what u are saying and that the noone can beat the lion is untrue lion is not
koolpost 1 year ago
there teeth and there jaws are design to penetrate armor plating of turtles and crocodiles wich they mostly hunt and the way they kill they pray is mostly to deliver a fatal blow to the skull rather then most cats try to sufficate there pray so nature gave them a very powerfull bite otherwise they would just not be able to catch and eat there pray so if it actually happend that a male lion was being in a shade
koolpost 1 year ago
took to the water the lion would not be effective at delivering strikes on jaguar ..then a jaguar is a great climber just like a leopard and they also use stealthy attacks not like lions who fight in the open so if a jaguar attacks from a tree and deliver a fatal blow a lion would be very badly hurt .. then a jaguar has the strongest bite out of all the big cats and thats because on the jaguar diet
koolpost 1 year ago
ok guys for people who are saying that a lion would kill a jaguar its a pretty biast asumption itself first off all the lion doesnt incounter a jaguar in real life to fight it it usually fights other male lions to protect its pride second of all lion has a poor stamina compared to a jaguar.. then lions are not great swimmers so if the fight
koolpost 1 year ago
what animal is at 5:35 ?
wengerboy 1 year ago
lions are pack animals people and a jagaur wont win everytime
dilldill95 1 year ago
Well as far as the jaguar goes it has more bite force the a lion and can weigh around the ssme amount so i will give the advantage to the jaguar
77turtlewax 1 year ago
Gay music
LegendarySpartin 1 year ago
FANTASY .. A JAGUAR CAN'T BEAT A LION
ELPENETRAD0R 1 year ago
Dude the lion here is in a zoo he was probably not used to the presence of an animal next to him if the fence was gone the female lion would easily kill the Jag an average Jag is like 200 -250 lbs and check your facts cause a male lion is like 550 lbs not 300 i weigh almost 300 lbs a female is around 300 to 400 pounds and that weight advantage is decisive
scatterblast123 1 year ago 10
@scatterblast123 Weight doesn't mean shit. Go watch Bob Sapp vs Mirko Cro Cop if you don't believe me.
LiNaK37 10 months ago 4
@LiNaK37 However, combat experience does. Male lions, in the wild, grow up fighting each other. They're social animals and as such, they learn to survive in a fight. More importantly they have thick manes that will protect them against the jaguar's natural kill tactic of going for the throat. Better armor + better experience + better instincts = lion destroys jaguar. In fact, we'd probably get a Liguar out of it, cause that's some rape.
lethargistic 10 months ago
@LiNaK37 Lol. Then watch Lesnar v Mir #2 to see the other side of that story.
LeonDawson11 7 months ago
@LeonDawson11 Lesnar vs Velasquez. Edgar vs Penn. Fedor vs 99% of the people he fought. Igor Vovchanchyn vs 75% of the people he fought. Penn vs Hughes. Etc, etc, etc. Again, weight doesn't mean shit.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
@LiNaK37 Well there's a few physicists that might disagree with you there.
LeonDawson11 7 months ago
@LeonDawson11 Physics has nothing to do with it.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
@LiNaK37 You are either a teenager or your IQ is in the teens, as physics, by logical application of common sense, has everything to do with what we're saying.
LeonDawson11 7 months ago
@LeonDawson11 Why would I care if a few physicists disagree? They are physicists. Not biologists. Wolverines generally way about 50 pounds. Do you know what they can kill? Bears. Bears weighing several hundred pounds. Also, yes, technically physics does have to do something with anything involving moving weight.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
@LiNaK37 Argument isn't about animals anymore, it turned to your eloquent statement of "Weight doesn't mean shit." I was simply arguing that your statement was wrong overall as definitely weight does have an influence on physical confrontations ie. a 350 Ibs Jaguar getting into a scrap with a 280 Ibs one. Advantage- SIZE(weight)!
LeonDawson11 7 months ago
@LeonDawson11 More weight doesn't necessarily mean an advantage. My statement wasn't wrong when used in proper context.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
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@LiNaK37 So you admit that the better statement would have been "More weight doesn't necessarily mean an advantage." My point exactly.
LeonDawson11 7 months ago
@LeonDawson11... agreed, i dont know why people find it hard to accept that in the animal kingdom size matters
oh and it matters to slags lmao
mbpatelss4 7 months ago 3
@LiNaK37... if weight and size dont matter then why do many animals posture their weight and size before choosing to fight, a display that ususally ends up with the smaller animal retreating....
mbpatelss4 7 months ago
@mbpatelss4 Size is intimidating. Doesn't mean it decides a fight.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
@LiNaK37... yea but thats such a naive answer... ok so if i go by your theory what if a jaguar met a bigger jaguar? they would have equal chances of winning....
mbpatelss4 7 months ago
@mbpatelss4 The bigger jaguar will be naturally stronger. The smaller one will be naturally faster.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
@LiNaK37... i didnt say a fatter jaguar!!!
lol do you read what you are writing???
Usain bolt... fastest man on earth 6'5?... thats a big guy
even you as a person, imagine how strong and quick you are now... then think if you were bigger (not fatter) then wouldnt your physical attributes also increase? that includes power speed everything
dude im 5'9 and i know if i was 6'5 and at the same level of fitness i would run faster hit harder etc
its time to let go... lol
mbpatelss4 7 months ago
@mbpatelss4 True, true. But in combat, especially when comparing different species, you can't determine it based on size. That's what I'm trying to say.
LiNaK37 7 months ago
@LiNaK37 lmao i would debate with u if dis video wasn't made from a 9 years old kids opinion on how a jaguar record breaking weights of 315 pounds can take on a african male lion with records of 800s but both average with jaguars from 100-200 pounds to a lion that averages 400-600 pounds 2 male lions have dived into packs of 18 an more hyenas have stronger bite forces than jags give me a fuckin break a male african lion would leave a male jaguar in pieces n house cats have scared bears off
bigwaverider1000 5 months ago 12
@bigwaverider1000 disaggre
jjgh2423 5 months ago
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jjgh2423 5 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 lions are lazy and dont hunt prey often they mostly eat what female lions get them and lions aren't strong enough to take on 18 packs of hyenas cuz it will get killed
jjgh2423 5 months ago
@jjgh2423 lmao give me a break am i talking to a kid,read a book,watch the nature chanel look on the internet 2 adult males need around 25 to push back there are hundreds of videos on youtube an national geographic shows once they kill the matriarchs the packs scatter an get picked off one by one,do yourself a favor an look before you talk not all males have mates so whos gonna hunt for them there mom lmao even males with prides help out females teach the teens an the whole family feasts after
bigwaverider1000 5 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 its more than just weight dumbshit most scientists of felinology agree tha the Jaguar is VERY underrated as a fighter and would beat a lion or tiger
TheLazyPinecone 2 months ago
@TheLazyPinecone No shit if a wolverine managed to kill a polar bear that out weighed him by 1700 pounds then weight isint always the main factor but we are talking on average dumb fuck not 1 in a millions a male lion vs a male jaguar would be 9/10 lion, the only way hed win is by chance not probabilty of being on same level in attributes you get it asshole? I geuss you mani paciao would beat Muhammad ali XDXD
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 there you go again makin the fight all about weigh!t weight! weight! ya its a big factor BUT THERE ARE BIGGER FACTORS u goddamned faggot i dont know if i have to repeat myself again the claws are sharper and more curved giving it a better slicing effect also its teeth are the sharpest and have some of the same characteristics of there claws! its called RESEARCH u fuckin gaylord! :D
TheLazyPinecone 2 months ago
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bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@TheLazyPinecone And what scientist said a jaguar would beat a lion or tiger they just said they have a harder psi bite stop making shit up. A snapping turtle, crocidile ,hippo,hyena all have harder bites than a jaguar but they still get killed from lions an tigers. its not only about one thing that excels its about the overall verdict in what they are capable of dumb ass.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 omfg u have the shittiest fuckin brain once again its called RESEARCH do i have to spell it out for you! also ur a damn hypocrite and a copier u took what i said and used it against me ! I cant believe u would stoop that low! what are u 5!?
TheLazyPinecone 2 months ago
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bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 now you go to changing the damn subject! and what are u 10? like seriously if u want to prove me wrong! PROVE ME WRONG! dont just curse and come up with your stupid stories!
TheLazyPinecone 1 month ago
@TheLazyPinecone LOL, Take your pills because you sound like your head is going to pop. XD XD Theres a video of a mountain lion punking and slapping around a jaguar. The world knows that pumas are 1/4th the size of african lions, so you do the logic in there. Im guessing you must think a 150 pound soccer player can push around a 500 pound sumo wrestler. XD XD
Take your meds becaus you aint fooling no one JACK!! You know what JACK runs?
JACK SHIT!!! XD XD XD
bigwaverider1000 1 month ago
@TheLazyPinecone You've just been proved "WRONG" an OWNED!!!
Carry on piss boy!
bigwaverider1000 1 month ago
@bigwaverider1000 So what do you think would happen in a fight between the two at equal weights? Are you simply judging weight as the deciding factor in a fight? Would you like to see a 140lb Navy SEAL beat the hell out of another man twice his size? How about 4 lb Colt .45 vs. 45 real colts.
AxeVEVO 1 month ago
@AxeVEVO lol, Another chump, that has no evidence of what your talking about. Huh!
Yeah show me that video of a 140 pound man beating up a 280 pound man where? Is that video! Come on show me! You cant why because your full of shit! Just like the guy below me making shit up with no proof.
lol You chumps like to live your lives threw lies, makes you a pussy an just shows how much your whole family must be just hot air as well, because no self respectable man would lie as much as you chumps do!
bigwaverider1000 1 month ago
@bigwaverider1000 lol...Stop acting like a screaming little girl. There are plenty of video's I could show you. Shit..Go look at the old Royce Gracie fights. He beat up a ton of people twice is size. There were no weight classes back in the old UFC. I think you are the pussy. No self respectable man would not know who Royce Gracie is. I bet you were never even in the military. What a pussy. :/
AxeVEVO 1 month ago
@AxeVEVO lmao Royce grace was 180 pounds in the old ufc. Show me the exact video where he fought a 360 pound man? wheres that video? 360pounds is 2x of 180 as he claims royce, never fought any one that size.
- Wake the fuck up I said 150 pound man trying to push a 500 pound sumo do you fucking get it? The weight isint small in differences its huge you dumb fuck before we even continue on.
- Show me that fight where royce gracie fought a 360 pound man lol you cant again your both FULL OF SHIT.
bigwaverider1000 1 month ago
@AxeVEVO HUH! Pussy? why do you have to be in the military to conjure up thats the only way a man can fight? wow your the fucking bitch! HUH!
- Give me a fucking break My brother was side blind from a drunk military scrub, in a bar at waikiki my brother countered him with a flury, that punk bitch went down and hit his head and died now my brother has been in jail for just defending himself.
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look that up if you need resources type in my bros name aysa dellasntos in youtube.you fucking fagot
bigwaverider1000 1 month ago
@bigwaverider1000 You wanted an example and I gave you one. But now I see where you are going with this. Your brother, a really large guy, killed some poor little dude so you think every fat bastard is supposed to win every fight because size and not skill is what matters. Well I hate to tell you, but not every Marine is infantry and being an ex Navy guy I have taken on plenty of them and won so you can still kiss my ass bitch.
AxeVEVO 1 month ago