No, I don't believe it so. You might think it so. Perhaps you have little experience with other martial arts? Have you ever sparred with an advanced Krav Maga or JKD practitioner? I have sparred with a whole range of martial arts practitioners ranging from Thaiboxer, Japanese JiuJitsu, the Korean arts like Hapkido, TKD and Kuk Sool. But also Krav, JKD, Wing CHun and so on. So I know from experience that Hapkido, though it does have merits, isn't the most practical of self defense systems.
I say you haven't. Otherwise you'd be dead. As a lifetime martial artist and professional self defense instructor, I know what I'm talking about. I recommend you turn to a FMA-instructor and learn some real stuff. Or try to find a S P E A R instructor. Then you really get a reality check.
@Micahel213 lol and im sure ud know SOOOOOO much more about me than my instructor especially seeing as how this was posted 4 years ago... im sure you know every detail about my life lol go fkin practice more cuz judging by ur videos u need it
So you admit that it's shait as you keep on referring to how long ago it has been.
What's your background? ATA? Maybe hapkido or kuk sool won at best? They give me plenty of material to show my students on how not to do things. As you have btw.
@Micahel213 dude its straight up WTF taekwondo mixed with hapkido with a dash of haidong kumdo on the side so sucka fat one cuz i dont care what they teach ur students the fact of the matter is my students are trained just fine and yes it is complete shit cuz i was a freshman in highschool at the time and YOUR the one whos obviously insecure in there ability seeing as how you need to troll martial arts videos on youtube
That's WTF? Looks more like ATA. Which is quite bad. Well I guess that's what you get when you start mixing things up without having a clue. You get all mixed up. :-))
@Micahel213 lol oh yes im just god awful at everything i do im so sorry to make you waste ur time trolling my videos
ill say what has been said
this was made my freshman year of highschool i was 15 and it does suck
i dont see what point ur trying to argue here? i got a lot better and have no videos up of me getting better this video was posted during a year long break from practice too
so now were just talking in circles because u just want to argue for some unknown reason but w/e keep talking
I call it as I see it. If you have better stuff. Please share. If it's good I'm fair enough to admit it. If it's really good I'll use it as a good example. You put something up and call it "Self defense video lesson", you're bound to receive some criticisme at some point. Wouldn't it be me, then in time it would have been something else. If you yourself do not subscribe to it's efficiency (anymore), then why keep it up? At least change the description.
@Micahel213 its more of a testiment to how far i've come and i genreally just keep it here so i can look back and see hwo far i've come and i have friends who are also martial artists and show them how far i've come if u dont like it u didnt have to post anything
@Micahel213 if your not trolling u would have stopped this argument by now u were trolling by saying "nice way to get sliced and diced" and i didnt learn martial arts by videos i learned it from instructors and training
I speak my mind freely. That may come off a bit strong. But so does a knife wound.
Why not show how far you have come? You put up the one. Why not put up the other? That might be equally interesting for your friends. Or are you afraid you haven't come as far as you think?
And ofcourse you have to learn martial arts through proper guidance. But ignoring usefull videos is like ignoring a usefull book and you confine yourself to your instructors.
@Micahel213 im actually working on a new video i just havent had time cuz i work all the time and when im not at work im lifting and helping teach at my taekwondo school
and trust me... i know knife wounds dont come off easy i've had knives pulled on me i live directly between 2 heroin trade neighborhoods and dont liek taking peoples shit especially off the internet
Well something is better than nothing. But more and more are turning to the fma for that. Why else would the Navy Seals engage Paul Vunak to train instructors? There are Silat and FMA-instructors working around the globe to share their knowledge. My own instructor trained the Brazilian C O T and is still training the Filipino commandos. To be able to effectively defend against a knife you have to know how to handle one. You need to know it's possiblities and it's limitations.
who said im 40 i have learned a lot in the past 4 years seeing as how this was posted when i was 15 your what like 50? idk u look fkin old enough and ur makin fun of a freshman in highschool im sorry i've ever doubted your unprecedented ability please forgive me oh high guru of all things violent
Actually I couldnt help but notice, that on the second manuever , when you side step, what if you took your foot and kicked the back of his leg? Wouldnt that basically just make him fall?
Had a couple of issues with the character limit when I was replying this time, to read my reply correctly, go to view all comments and read down.
Anyway, don't believe just because you were shown something that is gospel truth. Or the only way to do something. View other styles and see what they have to say about it. Unfortunately most Korean and Japanese styles do similar things to your own. All of which esteem the person who dies in combat. Themselves.
However I've read your replies to everyone who has objected to you in the past. Enjoy your ignorance. You're not the only person who has practiced knife fighting in the world and some of us don't just do it against people in our own school to show how good it works, but against other schools to see how badly our own techniques work against us.
When I working on defensive tactics as part of boarding party training with the Navy, the head instructor tried to show me techniques like this.
We used one of the knives that leaves marks if the blade presses against flesh or clothing. Any attempt to grab my wrist involved black lines across his wrist. He tried showing one similar to yours at around 2:08. There was a nice black line across his throat.
The problem is, many of these techniques work when you either have the armour to pull it off. Or when there isn't an actual weapon in your opponents hands. As to working the opponent, that might be true to a point.
But where you need to match strength against strength, as you showed in one of the moves, then you're not working their momentum, you're just using crude power and will simply get yourself even more hurt when you match against someone stronger.
The ideal way of dealing with a knife when the other non-violent or pulling a ranged weapon at them is to not be there. Now that isn't a philosophy of running away at this point. It's the principle of voiding. If you want to work another person then doit
For a downward stab, half sidestep to the outside of the strike and hit the forearm downwards. Do not grab, do not do it at the wrist, no matter how many pressure points there are, because when you're that close to the blade they can come back at you, closer to controlling the elbow and you get greater leverage against their hand and done even moderately correctly the blade will go hurtling downwards.
If you're lucky or good enough to control what you're doing, the persons knife will go into their own leg, taking the knife out of danger to you and taking them out of the equation at the same time. However that also depends upon which foot that they have leading.
As for a straight thrust forwards, again, move out of the way, guide the forearm away and past you, then in this case, going forwards and strike at them. Considering that they're using leathal force against you. Consider throat attack
i think i already said this but these are all basics... my instructor knows a ton of these and sends me to the ground in pain before i know what happened lol
The basic ones are always the best. Or should be. Voiding is almost always a better option than directing. Directing is better than matching. The techniques should be something simple and easy to do so that you never have to thinks about it. Just move and tap.
And yes instructors generally do know ways to send you to the ground in agony before you know what's happening. However that's more a combination of speed and pain points. Not neccessarily of effective technique.
thats the thing i should both ways to do it... i prefer the second one only because strength really doesnt matter that much there... its all twisting their rotator cuff at the right time
From what my own Sifu kept teaching me. All the more advanced techniques were not more complex. far from it. The higher level things got, the more simple they became. They just flowed from one to another or once you knew what you were doing, was really the only way you could do something. Everything else was a poor second best.
admited most are very similar but you're supposed to study each movement and better understand how to work an opponent, and martial arts are supposed to take practice for them to be useful... when u get into a situation you react on instinct, ur supposed to practice until the moves become instinct
thats why you are supposed to aim for the hand though
it lets you control everything they try to do with the knife... but ya anything against someone trained with a knife has flaws... these are basic techniques set up to taech how to work the opponent, i wanted to make more but noone likes being the test dummy
So what happens when a person who actually intends on using the knife doesn't just stand there? Anytime that you grab a hand holding a knife expect to have your wrist cut open with moves like these.
no it doesnt... i've practiced knife fighting with the person in this video and it works a lot better than you think... these moves are designed to help you better understand how to work another person into submission using their own momentum
Sorry to burst your bubble. But getting wrapped up when involved with a knife is going to leave all these wonderful new red lines across your wrists and in 2:08 quite possibly a slashed throat. You've practiced knife fighting with someone who will let you do the techniques upon them without resisting, because they know how much resisting an armbar hurts. However these techniques are conversions from barehanded attacks, from when you have bracers on your wrists and from stick fighting. Not good.
Nice, not realy my style though, im more the elephant trunk style of Muy Thai where your arm moves like the trunk of an elephant to ensnair the enemy and dislocate or break the arm, lol its effective
ya i watched something about it on human weapon it didnt go very thorough but it looked really good, i like hapkido though it works were its supposed to
You have? Which systems have you fought against?
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 boxing, ppl trained by military in the family, tang soo do, MMA, a bunch of different stuff actually
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
All black belts or similar level I reckon?
Micahel213 9 months ago
No, I don't believe it so. You might think it so. Perhaps you have little experience with other martial arts? Have you ever sparred with an advanced Krav Maga or JKD practitioner? I have sparred with a whole range of martial arts practitioners ranging from Thaiboxer, Japanese JiuJitsu, the Korean arts like Hapkido, TKD and Kuk Sool. But also Krav, JKD, Wing CHun and so on. So I know from experience that Hapkido, though it does have merits, isn't the most practical of self defense systems.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 well then your fighting the wrong hapkido fighters i've fought other fighters too trained in different arts and its proven effective
dragonianxx 9 months ago
nice way to get sliced and diced. have a look at Paul Vunak's vid "Knife philosophy" and Ray Floro's "7 Vital truths on edged weapons".
Micahel213 10 months ago
@Micahel213 its worked fine for me so far so i think its just fine
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
I'm sure it works fine in practise. Just try it when someone really wants to gut you.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 whos to say i havent ;D
maybe instead of trolling u should be practicing urself
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
I say you haven't. Otherwise you'd be dead. As a lifetime martial artist and professional self defense instructor, I know what I'm talking about. I recommend you turn to a FMA-instructor and learn some real stuff. Or try to find a S P E A R instructor. Then you really get a reality check.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 lol and im sure ud know SOOOOOO much more about me than my instructor especially seeing as how this was posted 4 years ago... im sure you know every detail about my life lol go fkin practice more cuz judging by ur videos u need it
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
So you admit that it's shait as you keep on referring to how long ago it has been.
What's your background? ATA? Maybe hapkido or kuk sool won at best? They give me plenty of material to show my students on how not to do things. As you have btw.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 dude its straight up WTF taekwondo mixed with hapkido with a dash of haidong kumdo on the side so sucka fat one cuz i dont care what they teach ur students the fact of the matter is my students are trained just fine and yes it is complete shit cuz i was a freshman in highschool at the time and YOUR the one whos obviously insecure in there ability seeing as how you need to troll martial arts videos on youtube
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
That's WTF? Looks more like ATA. Which is quite bad. Well I guess that's what you get when you start mixing things up without having a clue. You get all mixed up. :-))
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 lol oh yes im just god awful at everything i do im so sorry to make you waste ur time trolling my videos
ill say what has been said
this was made my freshman year of highschool i was 15 and it does suck
i dont see what point ur trying to argue here? i got a lot better and have no videos up of me getting better this video was posted during a year long break from practice too
so now were just talking in circles because u just want to argue for some unknown reason but w/e keep talking
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
I call it as I see it. If you have better stuff. Please share. If it's good I'm fair enough to admit it. If it's really good I'll use it as a good example. You put something up and call it "Self defense video lesson", you're bound to receive some criticisme at some point. Wouldn't it be me, then in time it would have been something else. If you yourself do not subscribe to it's efficiency (anymore), then why keep it up? At least change the description.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 its more of a testiment to how far i've come and i genreally just keep it here so i can look back and see hwo far i've come and i have friends who are also martial artists and show them how far i've come if u dont like it u didnt have to post anything
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
If you don't like criticisme you can switch off the comments or take the vid off public viewing.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 i dont mind criticism but i also dont like trolls
dragonianxx 9 months ago
I'm not a bad person. Nor do I troll. Why else would I recommend those video's by Vunak and Floro?
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 if your not trolling u would have stopped this argument by now u were trolling by saying "nice way to get sliced and diced" and i didnt learn martial arts by videos i learned it from instructors and training
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
I speak my mind freely. That may come off a bit strong. But so does a knife wound.
Why not show how far you have come? You put up the one. Why not put up the other? That might be equally interesting for your friends. Or are you afraid you haven't come as far as you think?
And ofcourse you have to learn martial arts through proper guidance. But ignoring usefull videos is like ignoring a usefull book and you confine yourself to your instructors.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 im actually working on a new video i just havent had time cuz i work all the time and when im not at work im lifting and helping teach at my taekwondo school
and trust me... i know knife wounds dont come off easy i've had knives pulled on me i live directly between 2 heroin trade neighborhoods and dont liek taking peoples shit especially off the internet
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
Well I'm genuinely interested in observing your new vid and see how you have evolved.
Especially when you live in a knife culture it would seem to me you should be open to other systems.
Have you studied knife fighting?
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 i've studied knife defense in hapkido which u seem to think fairly lowly of even though its taught to most of the worlds law enforcement
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
Well something is better than nothing. But more and more are turning to the fma for that. Why else would the Navy Seals engage Paul Vunak to train instructors? There are Silat and FMA-instructors working around the globe to share their knowledge. My own instructor trained the Brazilian C O T and is still training the Filipino commandos. To be able to effectively defend against a knife you have to know how to handle one. You need to know it's possiblities and it's limitations.
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 you underestimate hapkido a lot
its one of hte worlds best self defense martial arts and i dont think u seem to believe so
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@Micahel213 oh btw 2 things
i was like 15
and instead of watching videos
go learn something for real trolling douche
thats what i did
dragonianxx 9 months ago
@dragonianxx
And now you're 40? You've aged quite a lot in three years.
Why not put up that 'real' stuff you've learned instead of this unrealistic crap?
Micahel213 9 months ago
@Micahel213 dude
who said im 40 i have learned a lot in the past 4 years seeing as how this was posted when i was 15 your what like 50? idk u look fkin old enough and ur makin fun of a freshman in highschool im sorry i've ever doubted your unprecedented ability please forgive me oh high guru of all things violent
dragonianxx 9 months ago
Actually I couldnt help but notice, that on the second manuever , when you side step, what if you took your foot and kicked the back of his leg? Wouldnt that basically just make him fall?
TechnoChick17 2 years ago
its actually really easy to make someone fall in any of these moves
i might actually put up a video of theses with the takedowns
dragonianxx 2 years ago
"you block it with an X"
XD Im gonna use that...if I ever get attacked lol
TechnoChick17 2 years ago
i actually learned a lot better ones i might have to hang out with corey and make another video
dragonianxx 2 years ago
The X one at the end was pretty good.(and yes I was wondering why u were topless at the end)
hypedpotential 2 years ago
thanks XD
dragonianxx 2 years ago
awesome man
GreatKingRat24 3 years ago
thanks
dragonianxx 3 years ago
right you are young padawan back to your training only than can you defeat the Dark Dragon of Mt. Zahuko
FatalxShot 3 years ago
right...
dragonianxx 3 years ago
fine lets have a sword fight you and me...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DOUCHE BAG
FatalxShot 3 years ago
i dont think youre even worth the argument
dragonianxx 3 years ago
FAG!!!! YOU LIKE IT UP THE Are U FUCKER MUTHER TRUCKER COCK SUCKER... I WANT TO SHOVE THAT KNIFE UP YOUR ASS...o yeha
FatalxShot 3 years ago
lol said it before i'll say it again... pretty tough of a faceless person to start fights over the internet
dragonianxx 3 years ago
Had a couple of issues with the character limit when I was replying this time, to read my reply correctly, go to view all comments and read down.
Anyway, don't believe just because you were shown something that is gospel truth. Or the only way to do something. View other styles and see what they have to say about it. Unfortunately most Korean and Japanese styles do similar things to your own. All of which esteem the person who dies in combat. Themselves.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
However I've read your replies to everyone who has objected to you in the past. Enjoy your ignorance. You're not the only person who has practiced knife fighting in the world and some of us don't just do it against people in our own school to show how good it works, but against other schools to see how badly our own techniques work against us.
When I working on defensive tactics as part of boarding party training with the Navy, the head instructor tried to show me techniques like this.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
We used one of the knives that leaves marks if the blade presses against flesh or clothing. Any attempt to grab my wrist involved black lines across his wrist. He tried showing one similar to yours at around 2:08. There was a nice black line across his throat.
The problem is, many of these techniques work when you either have the armour to pull it off. Or when there isn't an actual weapon in your opponents hands. As to working the opponent, that might be true to a point.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
But where you need to match strength against strength, as you showed in one of the moves, then you're not working their momentum, you're just using crude power and will simply get yourself even more hurt when you match against someone stronger.
The ideal way of dealing with a knife when the other non-violent or pulling a ranged weapon at them is to not be there. Now that isn't a philosophy of running away at this point. It's the principle of voiding. If you want to work another person then doit
SsehKalai 3 years ago
For a downward stab, half sidestep to the outside of the strike and hit the forearm downwards. Do not grab, do not do it at the wrist, no matter how many pressure points there are, because when you're that close to the blade they can come back at you, closer to controlling the elbow and you get greater leverage against their hand and done even moderately correctly the blade will go hurtling downwards.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
If you're lucky or good enough to control what you're doing, the persons knife will go into their own leg, taking the knife out of danger to you and taking them out of the equation at the same time. However that also depends upon which foot that they have leading.
As for a straight thrust forwards, again, move out of the way, guide the forearm away and past you, then in this case, going forwards and strike at them. Considering that they're using leathal force against you. Consider throat attack
SsehKalai 3 years ago
i think i already said this but these are all basics... my instructor knows a ton of these and sends me to the ground in pain before i know what happened lol
dragonianxx 3 years ago
The basic ones are always the best. Or should be. Voiding is almost always a better option than directing. Directing is better than matching. The techniques should be something simple and easy to do so that you never have to thinks about it. Just move and tap.
And yes instructors generally do know ways to send you to the ground in agony before you know what's happening. However that's more a combination of speed and pain points. Not neccessarily of effective technique.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
no his is effective ive recorded it and it was all moves he showed us
lol
he just pwns
dragonianxx 3 years ago
thats the thing i should both ways to do it... i prefer the second one only because strength really doesnt matter that much there... its all twisting their rotator cuff at the right time
dragonianxx 3 years ago
From what my own Sifu kept teaching me. All the more advanced techniques were not more complex. far from it. The higher level things got, the more simple they became. They just flowed from one to another or once you knew what you were doing, was really the only way you could do something. Everything else was a poor second best.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
admited most are very similar but you're supposed to study each movement and better understand how to work an opponent, and martial arts are supposed to take practice for them to be useful... when u get into a situation you react on instinct, ur supposed to practice until the moves become instinct
dragonianxx 3 years ago
thats why you are supposed to aim for the hand though
it lets you control everything they try to do with the knife... but ya anything against someone trained with a knife has flaws... these are basic techniques set up to taech how to work the opponent, i wanted to make more but noone likes being the test dummy
dragonianxx 3 years ago
i dont just practice it with friends, i practice it with trained friends the one you see in this video was taught a lot from his marine grandpa...
dragonianxx 3 years ago
So what happens when a person who actually intends on using the knife doesn't just stand there? Anytime that you grab a hand holding a knife expect to have your wrist cut open with moves like these.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
no it doesnt... i've practiced knife fighting with the person in this video and it works a lot better than you think... these moves are designed to help you better understand how to work another person into submission using their own momentum
dragonianxx 3 years ago
Sorry to burst your bubble. But getting wrapped up when involved with a knife is going to leave all these wonderful new red lines across your wrists and in 2:08 quite possibly a slashed throat. You've practiced knife fighting with someone who will let you do the techniques upon them without resisting, because they know how much resisting an armbar hurts. However these techniques are conversions from barehanded attacks, from when you have bracers on your wrists and from stick fighting. Not good.
SsehKalai 3 years ago
Nice. What happens if you slice your face when doing the move on 2:08? 0_0
Rbt208 3 years ago
then you break their arm twice as hard
>= )
dragonianxx 3 years ago
booo!!!!! poor acting jejejejejejejejejejeje... i should watch what i rate
mrbigbrown666 3 years ago
lol
thats the thing we really didnt act we just kind of put together clips we already had
dragonianxx 3 years ago
yawn... you look like geeks lol your videos are boring!!!!
mrbigbrown666 3 years ago
r u serious right now?
do u have any videos up
dragonianxx 3 years ago
dont know realy... haven't got the time... and just a comment your videos on selfdefence is very poor jejejejejeje lol...
mrbigbrown666 3 years ago
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no it actually works if your trained
dragonianxx 3 years ago
nice man
awesome 5/5
spongy245 3 years ago
I need to stop chewing gum lol
~cj
dragonianxx 3 years ago
yes u do lol
dragonianxx 3 years ago
cool, do more
leanfist 3 years ago
im tryin to get more up but its not so easy to get everyone to help
lol
dragonianxx 3 years ago
please dont waste your time,,,,you really havn't got a clue
colmtrim 3 years ago
it works...
if it doesnt work for you it teaches you how to work people
dragonianxx 3 years ago
Nice, not realy my style though, im more the elephant trunk style of Muy Thai where your arm moves like the trunk of an elephant to ensnair the enemy and dislocate or break the arm, lol its effective
EvangelionFan 3 years ago
ya i watched something about it on human weapon it didnt go very thorough but it looked really good, i like hapkido though it works were its supposed to
dragonianxx 3 years ago
i dont know how u managed to find ur way there but i dont even know where that is
dragonianxx 3 years ago
no...
whered u get that from?
dragonianxx 3 years ago
awesome 5/5
i'm always getting attacked, next time I will end them all.
oneminutes 3 years ago
nice lol we'll have more defense videos up soon i think the next one will be gun defense
mark
dragonianxx 3 years ago
Subscribe and Rate
~CJ
dragonianxx 3 years ago
awasome vedio, you guys are awasome
WiseAltruistic 3 years ago
thanks lol
those were all made up by my instructor
dragonianxx 3 years ago
We rule All
thug213139 3 years ago
indeed we do
dragonianxx 3 years ago