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  • This is that 21st century western style of chinese wing chun .... wing shit!

  • Bad wing chun and slightly worse wing chun.

  • Sparring is sparring even at different levels you should learn something.

  • What tha fuck is this ? I could finish both of them real quick, they fightin' like some punk ass girls, what tha fuck man, they should be fuckin' embarassed, that was PATHETIC !!!

  • whats everybody hatin for? this acutal looks pretty good.

  • that was a bunch of shit.

  • Don't know what the problem is of all those who say "it's not wing tsun/wing chun". The WT/WC guy always moves forward, taking the other guy's space, and preempts almost all the attacks with his front leg kick, which means he is in the right distance and has good timing. Are they looking for "chi sau" exchanges? There is no chi sau in real fights (or in sparring for that matters). It's just a split second on contact that decides the winner/loser of an exchange.

  • ajajajajaja whats?

  • Wing Chun is actually very similar to Muay Thai. The only difference is that Wing Chun lacks all the effective techniques.

  • You put a real wing chun master in this.. and it'll be either child's play, or it'll end in like 10 seconds.

  • @VapourXY

    Like who?? Rank in Wing Chun is purely about politics not fighting ability. People get called masters without any real experience of fighting.

    This is actually one of the better Wing Chun sparring videos around.

  • @tillerbear Ummm, how bout MY masters for example? Jeez.. This is good, I'll give it some slack, but not the best wing chun sparring. Barely used 5% of wing chun but whatever.

  • @VapourXY It looks like that because most WT techniques fall apart under pressure. The art is flawed.

    Ever noticed that under pressure Muay Thai looks like Muay thai, Kyokushin looks like Kyokushin, BJJ looks like BJJ but WC/WT just looks like sloppy kickboxing.

  • @tillerbear WC takes a lot of time and experience to master. I think people make the mistake of assuming that simply learning how to move like WC and do chi sau makes you "good" at fighting because you believe in the theories. no, you have to spar and fight (and lose) to learn how it can work for you, and maybe a lot of folks don't do that. and sparring in WC is doesn't give you the same benefits as sparring with non-WC folks do. I think the style is very good but you have to put your time in.

  • ...like these guys in the video. they're out there, trying to figure it out. I study it and I think it's not bad. I think my sifu has a pretty realistic view about it. is it the last stop when it comes to fighting arts? no. All MAs have their strengths and weaknesses--as people do. I think in WC, you've made progress when the style becomes harder to "see" (you can move naturally), but the opponent feels it on their end. peace.

  • Yeah not a quality clip lads,, the guy your sparring hasnt got a clue bout full contact. But its real hard sparring that learns you what works & what doesnt & yeah...in Wing Chun bout 90% doesnt work against any1 half skilled. Anything will work against an idiot tho. Put a clip up of you sparring a decent Thai fighter or decent MMA guy & see if works. We all end up fighting the same..it just takes some styles longer to get there. Thats why youse look like poor kickboxers

  • okay, well all the crap talk aside from all ya'll. The only problem i see with this video is the Wing Chun guy isn't using his Shueng-ma (advancing; meridian stance). Ie Yah-mo-bo-fat (Stance inserting step techniques) or Bik-bo-dip-da (chasing the enemy with stepping punches). Use that front leg to invade your opponents space bud.

  • Just my humble opinion, but wing-chun is better used in combination with other martial arts as the late & great Bruce Lee proved. By itself it leaves way to much of a target which is why Mr. Lee adopted more of a boxing stance giving a slimmer profile, less of a target and alters the center line making it harder for the opponent to attack one's vital center.... Bow

  • @VicJones01 we all loved Bruce for being Bruce, but you do have to wonder how he would have been if he learned the complete Wing Chun system before moving on to other methods... Bow returned, Sifu DL

  • awsome these guys legs where weak do

  • i would kick ( preferably with e knee)  the attacking gyu to the groins to stop him. end of sparring.period. heh.

  • bet they shared each others saliva afterwards....................­.fagots

  • Wing Chun? More like bad boxing.

  • i don't know wing tsun so took a look around at several video this evening, but i saw very low level with good or enthusiastic comments! so now my idea is wt is like aikido & co., without an effective application...

  • @mapick2tube

    Thats because so much Wing Chun is terrible, (I would be tempted to say its a very high percentage, say 90% of it is ineffective) The best examples of the system being used properly are ManchesterVingTsun and Gary Lam vids

  • @Donkyfishy watch Chris Blatter Timing/sparing video, yes 90 percent of wing chun is wrong, because there is only like 3 legit teachers.

  • and 1:08 is the secret jumping fist!

  • Very bad someyhing against WC I guess. Up with the guard and jab his face away!

  • I'm guessing its the same guy from the sparring vid 1 when he was up against the kickboxer due to very similar stance. He has good form and demonstrates well his centreline. Very nice. I'm not sure what the other guy's fighting style was. WC/boxing hybrid? It seemed like WC at times. The good WC fighter does what he is supposed to do - stand firm and attack. Not moving around a lot and wasting energy like the other guy.

  • u dick...my master knows about 5 different styles including Shaolin Kung fu , Muay Thai and Wing Chun, throwing some fast jabs and hooks for us to practice with is very easy for him....are you stupid , his speed would knock you out before you could say 'i am an internet troll' , do not disrespect a master - the fact that you comment like you do just tells me that you are a poor fighter.

  • Some WC schools just spa with the usual Lok Sau / Chi Sau techniques. I agree with your comment - Without spontaneous sparring you cannot develop the nec skills for fighting, In my WC school we pad up & street fight for real life practice, for ex; last week my Sifu pretended to be a boxer throwing fast punches and we had to use WC to defend ourselves. I got hit in the mouth through my headguard and my tooth went through my tongue! I will be quicker next time and learn to block better.

  • how can he "pretend" to be boxer! You must train hard specialy FOR BOXING. I am boxer and I cannot pretend that I am WC or whatewer. You master dont know shit about boxing !

  • I respect every form of figthing and i think none of them is complete but every style has something to teach, i am not a boxer but i have done some kickboxing for some years i can tell you guys its takes months and years to teach your "body" to do a punch whit full potenciality using all your body machanics. Pretending to be a boxer its like pretending to be a doctor whitout ever been to a anatomy class in your live, boxing is not simple and its not easy.

  • @trunitus123 thats because everyone seems to exaggerate wing chun. They exaggerate every aspect, they purposely try to get into chi sao. Real wing chun is very strait forward, like muay thai or any of the other "quick" arts. And the stance isn't some mystical thing either. Its natural and loose, even you can move well in it, like a boxers stance. A lot of people exaggerate the stance too. Its a very effective art when done right, so is muay thai and some others.

  • @Fjedja hahahaha nice comment...

  • anfänger das ist nicht mal erster schülergrad... die machen da gar nichts

  • Sehr schlechtes Wing Tsun. Mehr als den 3.Schüler Grad geb ich dem net.

  • its a tie you both suck

  • A good technical WC guy would use more kicks and would have finished the other guy in seconds. The reason there is no sparring like this normally in WC is because WC is not a sport it is a fighting system that aims to finish an attacker there and then and hurt him badly enough that he cannot continue to attack you. Credit to this guy though for pounding the centre line and demonstrating that those straight punches are unstoppable if let off quick enough.

  • Rubbish. What a load of shit excuse. Without spontaneous training such as sparring you cannot develop the necessary skills for any kind of fighting, sports or otherwise. You won't learn to finish people quickly without actually practicing doing so against someone who is defending themselves.

  • @BackUporShutup hey wing tsun is not a sport it's a

    martial art without rules (that says that you can't do a sparring, because they are rules!) if you really train this in you can't kick against the knee or box at the neck....Fool

  • this wing chun guy is good, the sparring is done in a controlled way with some good power and contact - nice one guys

  • looks like bad wing chun vs bad wing chun lol or tsun or ving lol

  • this is not wing chun!! i think that they are stupid!!

  • WHERE IS UR FEETS! KICK MORE!

  • your GARD IS WAY TO LONG DOWN! UP!! UP!! UP!!

  • I asume the one in the long trousers was the one supposed to be doing Wing chun?

    His foot work is sloppy, he is not sitting in stance and he therefore has no dynamics to what he does. I find it hard to believe he wins fights in mma. lol. If so what were his opponents like ha ha.

  • i wonder what is that other style ?

    he keep his hands allways down so ?! i guess only kyokushin karate have this guard, cerenly not boxing, kickboxing, muy thai, takewondo, krav maga, wu shu.... really dunno whats that, its seems like some "street fighter" but really un expirienced

  • Whatever it is, they both suck. Definitely not Wing Chun.

  • @incpinoy Idiot. Definitely Wing Chun. Whether or not they're good, that's another story.

  • @Ophiucus0907 You replied to my comment just to call me an idiot? A comment that was made a whole TWO YEARS AGO?!?! Geez.

  • @incpinoy I agree def. not wing chun.

  • lol that not kyokushinken its fake wing chun

  • Das ist der reinste Müll! Möchtegern-Wing Chung!

  • este tio es un verdadero chapucero

  • tHATS NOT THE REAL wing chun

  • The Wing Tsun fighter here has fought and won in professional MMA all around the world. I love the internetkwondo advice all you experts leave here.

  • "I" just don't like his "style", no matter how many fights he might have won.

    WSL Ving Tsun is just more dynamic than "WT"!

  • ving tsun is than wing tsun!!!

  • Oh, if you know that, you sure can tell me the name of this successful MMAler practicing ing ung. I want to look up his all around the world record.

  • This is a bit like Wing Chun meets Brokeback Mountain ROFL

  • Garbage

  • why is it?

  • Brokebreak Wing Chun

  • keep your hands higher, learn some footwork, and don't punch unless you have a high probability of hitting something

  • Left hook. LEFT HOOK!

  • Just to consider next time, there were many missed opportunities for knee strikes to the abs, etc..

  • great comparatively to other wing chun sparring, but I would like to see there's a hard punch or kicks during the sparring

  • Why are you sticking to the inside? The first thing you learn in WC is "My whole body, vs half of yours".

  • "Stick with Tai-Bo" hahahaha I love it, that was funny as hella

  • jesus, you guys display typical ineffective and rigid posture, footwork of wing chun, as Bruce Lee himself said: " the problem with classical martial arts is their lack of fluidity; if you gave a man one yrs boxing and wrestling training he could defeat a kung fu master of a lifetime in any style"..truth hurts eh?

  • u know that bruce lee practiced wing chun right?

  • Yes I do

  • bored me to death

  • Stick with Tai-Bo

  • who is your sifu.. u r going to be good.. when u practise sections.. good for beginner..they don t like your vid.. cause they think u r practising for long..y r young yet. u r going to be good in your late 30 s.

  • Thats not wing chun sparring. There is no sparring in wing chun. All he did was the basic punch. I couldn't see any other moves.

  • No Sparring in Wing Chun? Sorry but i disagree. There should be various levels of sparring in all wing chun clubs from light to full contact. People need to learn what it feels like to hit and to be hit. I'm not saying that there should be sparring everyday like a boxing gym but there should be some. You can't use a Biu sau sparring it's too dangerous but a bop on the end of the nose will teach him to guard against just as effectively

  • by sparring i meant like the way these 2 guys were doing it. Sparring in wing chun has a different meaning. Obviously we perform chi sau and other drills with physical contact and imitating real life situations, but we dont go tryign to hit each other like in a boxing match. This vid is misleading.

  • AGREE, AGREE, AGREE TOTALLY

  • Well you shouldnt agree!

    The lack of sparring is one of the reasons that most 'Chunners' these days cant fight for Shit.

    Wong Shun Leung used to encourage his students to fight (beimo) this is because despite what your Sifu says Chi Sau and Lat Sau are no substitute for REAL SPARRING.

  • HA! are you saying Chi Sao is useless!? you're wrong man

  • No not at all its just a drill though.

  • yeh i practice wing chun undrr Sifu Sydney in Brisbane and he makes us do alot of sparring boxing style beieve it or not, it takes ages to be able to apply wing chun skills to a real situation..... so we practice (real situations) E.G. Last time i sparred one of the top students and this guy was really trying to hit me....

  • like not preasure points n shit but a few quick straight punches to my chin and nose put me out of the fight after half a minute, but i think that now i have sat down and thought about that fight i would stand a better chance in the future....what im trying to say is i know for a FACT that sparring in a wing chun school is a good idea, and should be included in every wing chun school.....

  • those *are* pressure points. they're nerve ganglion.

  • this is basically a slapfight

  • what are they doing, is this fighting?

  • LOL, this guyss youtube account is a fucking riot

    I dotn think he has ever taken a wing chun lesson in his life, please tell me its someone pissing about

  • not bad

  • Not good either!!

  • Guards are too low, they are walking instead of moving on toes. Again, hard to apply pure WC in such a match.

  • more kicks, good sparring, but I think many wing chun people train ther hands too much n forget to use kicks. Chisao is could be classified as sparring depending on the objectives, if u assume each guy knows enough wing chun it doesnt have to become a 'lab' any more, it might as well b full contact when u go all out.but the fact evrythin goes out the window is the problem

  • least their sparring and not hitting air making theories of how it should work

  • Why are they wearing gloves if it is w/c sparring?

  • they look like ther slappin eachother panseys try kickboxing u cats

  • siulamtau is a dummy account that's why he got banned from commenting on my vids

  • ok one must make only wt but other every stupid or non stupid thing.. thats the way to prepare one who must make wt for streets.. or any thing.. stdent makes wt but the one who gives practise does not apply every time wt.. same as all wt system teachings..

  • maybe if you explained why this is "wing chun" sparring and why normal sparring isn't "wing Chun". I (we) would benefit more from the clip.

  • I suppose it would be defined as wing chun on the basis of how many applications of wing chun are used before you class it as W.C sparring. Does he use centreline? Is his guard w.c guard styled? Is he using his opponents force? etc. Theres lots of critera for a wing chun 'spar'

  • of all the sparring videos, this is one of the best wing chun representatives because most of the rest are more based in a ring and the wing chun principles are just destroyed. check out an Alan Orr video as an example. there is no wing chun to be seen. plus that peckerwood guy is a deuche because he banned me from making any posts for no reason.

  • one does wing chun right, the other is like, HUH!

  • sparring like this gives 100 times more than fancy theory movements. they may not have total balance and so on, but this is the best way to get better

  • Well, at least some contact is being made. You learn more from getting hit than you do from dominating an opponent. Both guys should keep their hands higher. There were way too many head shots getting in. Probably easier said than done though

  • its not a good example. Off balance, wheres your center? No movement to the blind side. I dont care if its sparring, its still sloppy.

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