The difference between them is that Hitchens' repertoire is limited mainly to rhetorical tricks, mostly emotional appeals, whereas Haldane employs reasoned arguments. Hitchens is unable to answer these and grows increasingly uncomfortable as the evening wears on. Watch his body language at the end as he, literally, shifts in his seat.
Brilliant segue and introduction by using the Lincoln assassination to demonstrate the absurdity of taking ancient oral history on face value.
However Hitchens is incorrect in saying that Seward made the "angels/ages" comment. In fact it's thought that Sect of War Stanton said this while Seward was nearly dying of stabbing wounds from another "racist" co-conspirator.
All this of course supports Hitchen's point about the reliability of oral history. Ages-->Angels; Stanton-->Seward.
Mr. Haldane may be irresolvably conflicted, but I am not. There is no evidence to support his claims. That's just a fact. There's nothing to be conflicted about. Reciprocal Altruism is a well-established biological fact. That didn't come from imaginary multi-dimensional sky-friends. It came from biology.
A good debater has to be interesting as well as knowledgeable. Haldane is incredibly boring. He's almost impossible to listen to.
dm1121ww 3 weeks ago
The difference between them is that Hitchens' repertoire is limited mainly to rhetorical tricks, mostly emotional appeals, whereas Haldane employs reasoned arguments. Hitchens is unable to answer these and grows increasingly uncomfortable as the evening wears on. Watch his body language at the end as he, literally, shifts in his seat.
Tybourne1991 1 month ago
Outstanding job by Hitchens.
paulandlesson 3 months ago
I like the part where Hitchens is asking where are the clapping for Haldane is coming from. I laughed out loud.
JacksInn 3 months ago 2
Haldane is an appallingly boring apologist. I watched Hitchens getting more and more bored.
Haldane has no argument worth listening to. I can understand Dionysus' AArrrggg. Hahahahaha.
VeroniqueCG 3 months ago
Brilliant segue and introduction by using the Lincoln assassination to demonstrate the absurdity of taking ancient oral history on face value.
However Hitchens is incorrect in saying that Seward made the "angels/ages" comment. In fact it's thought that Sect of War Stanton said this while Seward was nearly dying of stabbing wounds from another "racist" co-conspirator.
All this of course supports Hitchen's point about the reliability of oral history. Ages-->Angels; Stanton-->Seward.
GunthersMullet 3 months ago
lesson one for any undergraduate at university = avoid the christian union like your life depends on it
AlexFictionFriction 3 months ago
"I suppose I have a rather redundant question to ask..." X2
You deserve to get redundantly hitchslapped in your redundant mouth.
AscendingParadigm 3 months ago
Thanks for the upload........!
Territomauvais 3 months ago
The difference between a theologian and a philosopher is this :
Both are put into a dark room,blindfolded to look for a black cat that IT IS NOT there!.
The philosopher can not find it.
The theologian not only finds it, but he can tell that the cat just ate a white mouse , who just ate a piece of provolone cheese.
AArrrggg ;p( Is no wonder why I can't stand them -- Fucking bullshitters !!!.
Dionysus5252 3 months ago 14
How can a person spend 10 minutes leading into the is-ought distinction? And he does not say anything relevant about its consequences until minute 9.
I really want to give those theologians and chance and listen to their arguments but they are all so dull.
PeterK1984 3 months ago
Powerful highlight where Hitch really gets the fire going - 41:35 to 44:06.
Sketto8 3 months ago
@Sketto8
That should be a Hitchslap!
mmfromh 3 months ago
Mr. Haldane may be irresolvably conflicted, but I am not. There is no evidence to support his claims. That's just a fact. There's nothing to be conflicted about. Reciprocal Altruism is a well-established biological fact. That didn't come from imaginary multi-dimensional sky-friends. It came from biology.
ProjectFreeSelf 3 months ago
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ProjectFreeSelf 3 months ago
Ugh, listening to a theologian argue the case for religion is like listening to a unicornologist argue the case for fairydust.
un2mensch 3 months ago
Shortcut to Hitchens:
6:26
rkyeun 3 months ago 21
@rkyeun thank you
shazzy84 2 months ago
@shazzy84
^_^
rkyeun 2 months ago