Sear Noam, calling for an end to the tyranny is not calling for mass genocide. The dismantling of the system as it is does not have to result in massive death. The system for instance could just be modified for more freedom and choice whilst disposing of the capitalist nightmare in favour of more socialist/libertarian alternatives.
@TheGodlessGuitarist No, he was referring to anarcho-primitivism, if we were to dismantle the system and eventually choose an anarchist path, and instead of choosing for example anarcho-communism or anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-collectivism we would choose anarcho-primitivism (shifting back to hunter-gatherer) that would be a mistake.
I'm agreeing with choosing libertarian socialism or marxism, but anarcho-primitivism...
I have never heard Chomsky use the word "shit" before. That's pretty awesome lol.
This was a fantastic discussion. I wish I could find more from him on Anarcho-Capitalism, and the way its adherents so vehemently attack Anarcho-Syndicalism. Mises dot org actually went so far as to call it worse than the state structure of today.
Anarchism is retarded. A country needs to generate income to fund essential things like free trade, free enterprise, society (sewage systems, humanity aid, etc., etc.), hospitals, etc., etc., and it needs to protect those interests with a military. It would be a pretty useless military if it didnt have any authority controlling it wouldnt it? And so would a country without law and order.
@MichaelStepkoff Thats what unions and organized strikes and boycotts are for so the working have a voice. Those methods can be very efficient in getting what working class needs and wants.
Not necessarily. It depends upon the definition of capitalism. Someone who produces a product, and sells the goods for more than it is worth, is exploitation? If the buyer is not forced or coerced into the agreement, it is not expoititive, imo.
Like chomsky says, the instrument is neutral. It's how it's used (or implemented) that determines its nature. The only source of evil in the world is that which is born of our minds.
Wow. What a great interview. Mr. Pateman is one of the better interviewers I've seen.
croppingbeef 2 weeks ago
@anarchophilia Who wrote that book he mentions near the end, "What is Anarchy?" by Burchman..? I can't seem to find anything online, either.
tonyfalca 2 weeks ago
From looking at the thumbnail, I thought it was Jesse Ventura interviewing Chomsky.. lol
tonyfalca 2 weeks ago
my god... did chomsky pop a couple horse tranquilizers before this or what?
burningm0nk 4 weeks ago
english is not my first language. anybody have a transcript of this?
malayneum 4 weeks ago
Apex 29:12 very explenation about outsourcing
brVOVds 1 month ago
herp derp here is ma imagenatinal society thats n ma head
stinnetbennet 1 month ago
@stinnetbennet
herp derp i have no imagination
catbuffalo 1 month ago
Anarchy means No-Leader in Latin.
Or in other words Self-Governed.
Each individual is responsible enough to govern themselves to maintain a creative life for the benefit of all and consequently himself.
On the contrary what we have now is the opposite.
Everyone is governed by laws and regulations which are artificial and do not fit all situations accurately in life.
Hence creating friction and suffering.
And people are not encouraged to become responsible for their actions.
See Insurance...
EvenStar303 2 months ago
those who give the hors d'oeuvres and those who take the hors d'oeuvres
100FingeredMonkey 2 months ago
Sear Noam, calling for an end to the tyranny is not calling for mass genocide. The dismantling of the system as it is does not have to result in massive death. The system for instance could just be modified for more freedom and choice whilst disposing of the capitalist nightmare in favour of more socialist/libertarian alternatives.
TheGodlessGuitarist 4 months ago
@TheGodlessGuitarist No, he was referring to anarcho-primitivism, if we were to dismantle the system and eventually choose an anarchist path, and instead of choosing for example anarcho-communism or anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-collectivism we would choose anarcho-primitivism (shifting back to hunter-gatherer) that would be a mistake.
I'm agreeing with choosing libertarian socialism or marxism, but anarcho-primitivism...
q1w2e3r4ge5t6y7u8i9o 2 months ago
Incredible interview.
marth193 4 months ago
44:55 Huggies <3 lol.
bigdudeboy 5 months ago
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bigdudeboy 5 months ago
20:00 right on point!
ProfesorMacOnline 6 months ago
I have never heard Chomsky use the word "shit" before. That's pretty awesome lol.
This was a fantastic discussion. I wish I could find more from him on Anarcho-Capitalism, and the way its adherents so vehemently attack Anarcho-Syndicalism. Mises dot org actually went so far as to call it worse than the state structure of today.
PurpleHoneyBear 6 months ago
@PurpleHoneyBear lol! i know. i watched that part 3 times.
fede2 5 months ago 4
@PurpleHoneyBear
well, fuck them then.
khoroshoorange 4 months ago
@PurpleHoneyBear
i mean they are totally wrong.
khoroshoorange 4 months ago
@PurpleHoneyBear Yeah, I know. Never heard him curse before either. 35:43
acpjrr 1 week ago
Anarchism is retarded. A country needs to generate income to fund essential things like free trade, free enterprise, society (sewage systems, humanity aid, etc., etc.), hospitals, etc., etc., and it needs to protect those interests with a military. It would be a pretty useless military if it didnt have any authority controlling it wouldnt it? And so would a country without law and order.
eanielsen123 6 months ago
@eanielsen123 Any civilized human society will naturally have laws to keep order
MrDarkbloom 6 months ago
@MrDarkbloom And that would defeat the entire purpose of what any anarchist would try to create.
eanielsen123 6 months ago
@eanielsen123 You've lost your marbles, officially.
tonyfalca 2 weeks ago
Who would want to talk to this guy? He never shuts up!
MichaelStepkoff 6 months ago
Are you bound to have class warfare between various sorts of Mexican jumping beans?
MichaelStepkoff 6 months ago
I wish Chomsky would explain more about the difference between giving orders and taking orders.
MichaelStepkoff 6 months ago
Capitalism is not neutral; it exploits. If you doubt that, then try working for a living.
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@MichaelStepkoff Thats what unions and organized strikes and boycotts are for so the working have a voice. Those methods can be very efficient in getting what working class needs and wants.
brVOVds 1 month ago
@MichaelStepkoff Amen
tonyfalca 2 weeks ago
@MichaelStepkoff
Not necessarily. It depends upon the definition of capitalism. Someone who produces a product, and sells the goods for more than it is worth, is exploitation? If the buyer is not forced or coerced into the agreement, it is not expoititive, imo.
PositivelyBored 5 days ago
You're full of it.
MichaelStepkoff 6 months ago
Capitalism is an evil empire.
MichaelStepkoff 6 months ago
@MichaelStepkoff
Like chomsky says, the instrument is neutral. It's how it's used (or implemented) that determines its nature. The only source of evil in the world is that which is born of our minds.
joezuu 6 months ago