I left the Greek Orthodox church in 1973. KJV, non-denominational, Christian ever since. Thanking you for the Orthodox videos because of my mom, friends, relatives, etc that I am trying to bring out of there.Since then,I have studied the bible & related issues extensively.I think the Pentacostal movements: speaking in tongues, belief in pre-destination, etc.Have also been a large facilitator to the degradation of purity in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's church. Amen.
Thank you for your wonderful videos & sermons which I have found to be truthful & full of the Holy Spirit. I was raised in the Greek Orthodox church by my parents & saw much of what you spoke of as the Orthodox church comes from the same roots. Glad to see that you've put out more videos on the E. Orthodox because they're hard to find as most videos on the net focus on the Catholic religion. I have prayed & will continue to pray for you & your ministry. May God always bless you.
well done brother... i just found a weird book in the thrift store by brian d mclaren... it is off!!... you are correct... we must keep praying... thanks...
Pay attention, read and listen to the signs all around you. Then read 1&2 Tim and Thess. You will see what he is describing. Mysticism has nothing to true Christianity. If you believe as much, you do so at your own peril. Excellent talk.
Even the churches of these days will persecute faithful Christians in the name of "preventing division." It appears that the 3 politically correct "virtues" of today are "unity," "diversity," and "tolerance."
Regardless of the "positive" intentions behind the emergent church, the Bible still holds the Truth, even since it does cause division.
the word I first thought of that describes my relationship with Jesus its thankfulness ,,,then conviction, grace, love, humility, adoration and obedience
This individual is totally twisting everythng. Mysticism is the ability to actually EXPERIENCE DIVINE REALITIES directly. For instance, recalling past lives, out of body travel into Heavenly Worlds (II Corinthians..."I knew a man, whether in the body or out of the body, I know not, who was caught up in the third Heaven..") Experiencing Divine LIGHT AND SOUND..(In the beginning there was the WORD, is a reference to DIVINE SOUND). Voodoo is a means to contact evil spirits, not Mysticism at all
@moranplano you quoted this incorrectly,,, 'I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know--God knows. PAUL WASNT CONDONING OUT OF THE BODY EXP he was saying he didnt know wether the man was taken physically or spiritually. Im not trying to be flippant but theology matters,,,you cant take one line and build a doctrine around it,,,the entirity of christian writings condemn these pagan practicies
@candiceevans1 Out of body travel was used by the MYSTICS of many paths to EXPERIENCE the HEAVENS and become ENLIGHTENED. How could visiting Heaven be condemned? The GNOSTICS used DYING DAILY or SOUL TRAVEL to find the Truths of GOD. The Early Church killed the Gnostics and their practices because they didn't fit in to doctrine. People might start recalling past lives and know there was no HELL or Blood Redemption...can't have that. YOUTUBE has some excellent vids on Christian Mysticism.
@candiceevans1 How can you say that Out of body travel is pagen. Most of the accounts that I have read about concern the Enlightened Saints and Mystics of various paths..Christian, Hindu, Buddhism, Islam..etc. The devotee usually began being taken out of the body into the Heavenly Worlds, there they communed with DIVINE and became ILLUMINATED SAINTS. They developed these skills and were able to make DYING DAILY a part of their routine. Padre Pio, St. Francis, St. Teresa, Rumi, Shamus Tabriz
At 27:09, he reveals himself to be a liar. He says Ignatius of Loyola died a nonbeliever. Big lie. He claims that the Paulicians (he mistakenly calls them Paulines) and Albigensians were 'true Christians'!! Big Lies! The Paulicians rejected the OT & the Incarnation. Christ was an angel sent by God. The Albigensians believed in Two gods, one good, one evil. These were not christians in any sense of the word. Look them up. People, run from this man. I think his accident damaged his brain..
This guy's nutty. He attacks mystical longing for God. What's wrong with that? What's lethal about longing for God? This is a longing to be with God, to be holy, to have one's will totally submissive to God's. The Catholic Church, and it's mystics, do NOT teach any kind of blurry 'union or 'nothingness'. They don't teach that we aim to see 'nothing'. It's so twisted. This is the best he's got? People, you want to know what Catholicism teaches? just read the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:13-15 Which are you on?
@MuffinMario You mean the catholic catechism that removes the 2nd Commandment dealing w/ idol worship and splits the 10th into 2 separate commandments to keep a total of 10? No wonder the cult of the dead woman teaches to pray to dead saints. They removed the commandment NOT to pray to dead saints. Please come out of the whore.
@filoIII The Catholic Church teaches the 10 commandments. NONE have been removed. EVERY single commandment is in the Catholic list. The worship God alone and don't worship idols are in our 1st commandment because they are related to each other. Basically: worship Me and no other. The covet neighbor's wife and goods are two because they relate to different things. But anyway, there are no numbers in the bible! All lists have been numbered by people. The bible simply states them without numbers
@MuffinMario Funny how you failed to deal w/ my statement saying the catholic catechism removes the 2nd Commandment dealing w/ idol worship and splits the 10th into 2 separate ones.
@filoIII Funny how you failed to read my answer. What you call the 2nd C is not removed. It is included in the Catholic 1st C. The Catholic 1st C goes: I am the Lord, etc..you shall not worship other gods..you shall not make idols.... It's all there. We include it all in the 1st C while you split it. The point is that no C's have been deleted. They are simply numbered differently. But if you want to keep believing anti-Catholic propaganda, I can't stop you. It's easy to look up the truth.
@MuffinMario The Catechism of the Council of Trent says- "It is lawful to have images in the church, and to give honor and worship unto them." Spin it however you best can to try to put forth the whore in a good light. Your catechism doesn't have the 2nd Commandment dealing w/ idol worship.
@MuffinMario Im sorry but youre wrong,,,the catholic church removed the commandment ab graven images,,,,go right now and look this up,,the one ab graven images is ,the 2nd commandment,,,, in the catholic version it will not be there,,,they split the 9th commandment into 2 to fill in the gap,,,I hope you have the courage to look into this and look at the book of duteronomy,,,,noone has the authority to change GODs commands,,,,Im sorry but youre in a heretical church
sir the first commandment is thou shall have no other GOD but the one GOD, NUMBER TWO IS THOU SHALT NOT CREATE GRAVEN IMAGES OF ANYTHING IN HEAVEN ON EARTH OR BELOW THE EARTH,,,
SIR YOURE WRONG,,,everyone knows the 10 commandments,,,are you going to tell me that thou shalt not create graven images is not one of the commandments? its always been the second commandment,,,the cath church removed it,,, and made the last into 2,,,,this is well documented and its obvious because theres one missing ,,,they knew the statues were a sin,,,nothing will make u leave if murder, torture, the jesuits, child rape and homosexual priests didnt get you to leave nothing will
@candiceevans1 YOU ARE WRONG. The Catholic Church has NOT removed it. There is no numerical division of the Commandments in Exodus and Deuteronomy. They are simply listed. The Church includes graven imagery in the First Commandment because it has to do with adoration for God alone. The numbering found in Catholic Bibles, based on the Hebrew text, was made by St. Augustine (fifth century) in his book of "Questions of Exodus"
Respond to this video... ..Continued.... It is followed also by the German Lutherans. This makes the 1st Commandment relate to false worship and to the worship of false gods as to a single subject & class of sins to be guarded against. The injunction forbidding the use of the Lord's Name in vain comes 2nd in order for us (3rd for you); and your 10th is the Catholic 9th pointing to sins of the flesh and the 10th to desires for unlawful possession of goods. So ALL of it is there.
Do you know what I have problem with? It's this whole idea of the catholic church being universal. I mean everyone knows or has heard of the Catholic church. You see it movies, in the news media. It's captured by the eyes and ears of almost every individual in the world. Didn't Jesus say in Matt7:13 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction"? So that would make one think twice before considering the Catholic church
@soulsurcher There are many vehicles on the broad way and God has provided the delusion for all those that reject the narrow way. Many change vehicles along the way and all are content, except for those nuts calling to them to the narrow way.
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Isaiah 66:4
@soulsurcher But that's just it, the Catholic Church is attacked everywhere. There's nothing easy about being a Catholic. The road is not wide and broad. It is difficult to be a Catholic. In fact, most Catholics are poor Catholics. I don't know who this guy speaking is, but he sounds weird. Voodoo is not Catholic. There's something 'off' in his talk. I mean, if an ex Baptist minister were to speak about Baptists who drink, or play with new age or wicca stuff, does it really have any bearing?
@MuffinMario The truth of the matter is that every mans work will be made manifest. You say you're Catholic, I say I'm Christian Apostolic, but it matters not what we are called. In the end our works as well as our faith in Almighty God will be tested. It's time for us to start proving our faith in God and stop arguing over religion. You say you believe in God then prove your belief in him by works of righteiousness and acts faith. I'm going abandon this ignorance, because it does nothing for me
@MsHannelore This guy does not have all of his facts correct. I believe that he follows a westernized version of Christianity, which is a deviation from Roman Catholicism, which deviated via the Schism, from Orthodox Christianity, which is just regular christianity without denomination, and is primarily practiced in the east. Western Christianity is best described as Christian - Lite. When the west witnesses Eastern Christianity, in its most Jewish form, they are afraid, because they do not know
Mysticism: by-passing the mind AND Jesus Christ to have a Direct Experience of God--RCchurch does Not discourage Mysticism / Voodooism ...RCC officially recog. Pagan Religions at Vatican Council II --validates Hinduism/ Budhaism/ are ways to GOD???!!!! No.68 Gaudium et Spes, Vol 1 Sec.2,3 pp904-905 --divine element in all mankind... William Johnson- since Vat.Council II 'all nonChristian religions seen as Valid ways to God...
Good preaching. HAVE YOU READ YOUR BIBLE TODAY? Have you seen that GOD IS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOUR AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED IS BELIEVE ON THE LORD AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED
This individual has a tragic narrowness of vision. No such thing as "Christian mysticism?" What is he talking about? He's just written off an integral element of our tradition.
KEEP ON BARKING WHILE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE MAIN AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST. THREE TIMES LOSERS are those who believe this trash.
JESUS is the savior,He is the way the truth and the life no one come to the father exept through Him. Catolics pray the virgin mary and all that, it s not christian!!!
Change your ways, believe in HIM, leave the traditions God is so much than that, He will save us.
@77JesusSaves the only thing u said that was truth, is that jesus is "the way" which means "the path" to be saved. and not in the way christians see him, cuz they "created" him or lied about him in many ways. many words of many gnostics and essenists, that have been said by them, are now the "words of jesus". for example John the Baptist.
@tomek92pl do not judge all christians as if you knew all of them. you put all of them is the same bag, don t do it. those who lied about Him are not christian, simple as that. they put a curse on themselves.
we need to understand that some person do not have the full knoledge and do not have the relationship with Jesus. Correct them, teach them with love.
I am saying the truth when i say: leave the traditions, God is more than that. Look at Saul who became Paul, he left the traditions
@tomek92pl John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.--Is this the false teaching from John you speak of?
@filoIII nope, this is not what i ment. though when i was writing this i was learning 'false' knowledge, (not anymore) but still, it was true. lots of his words and things about him were falsified. but anyway... following anything that he was teaching, WILL lead you somewhere, but first, you have to understand what he was teaching, and the church wont teach you this.
@RachaelOtiegbe What is it you want to see? If you go to my channel, I have a video for just about every Catholic teaching, each using Scripture heavily.
@filoIII I have a website called ArmoredCatholic where I demonstrate all of those from Scripture. I'm sure you misunderstand what we mean by co-redemptrix; it doesn't mean that Jesus and Mary are equal or that Mary did half of the redeeming or something like that.
@SeptemberCatholic18 St. Antonius (circa 250 - 350): "All graces that have ever been bestowed on men, all came through Mary." St. Bernard (1090 - 1153): "[Mary is called] the gate of heaven, because no one can enter that blessed kingdom without passing through her." Saint Alphonsus wrote a book "The Glories of Mary." Various chapters in the book are titled: "Mary our Help," "Mary our Mediatress," "Mary our Advocate."
@SeptemberCatholic18 1935: Pope Pius XI gave the title co-redemptrix to Mary during a radio broadcast. 1985: Pope John Paul II recognized Mary as "co-redemptrix" during a speech in Guayaquil, Ecuador, stating. in part, "Having suffered for the Church, Mary deserved to become the Mother of all the disciples of her Son, the Mother of their unity...In fact Mary’s role as Co-redemptrix did not cease with the glorification of her Son." --I'm quite familiar w/ the cult of the dead woman. Want more?
@filoIII No, as I figured you are misunderstanding the teaching. Once again, this does not equate Mary with Jesus nor does it mean she did half of the redeeming or something like that.
The quotes you referenced are understood in the context of the fact that Mary was the instrument used to bring Jesus into the world in the flesh, so in a sense all of Jesus' graces come through Mary in that Jesus was incarnated through her. Of course, she is still a creature who receives Jesus' grace herself.
@SeptemberCatholic18 1987-MAR-25: In his encyclical Redemptoris Mater, Pope John Paul II "referred to Mary as 'Mediatrix' three times, and as 'Advocate' twice." I can show you other pagan religions that believe this. If catholicism is Christian, please show me this in the Bible.
Twist it how you wish. Facts are a tricky thing to get around. Remember that as you try to justify YOUR catholic leaders.
@filoIII Mary is a mediator and advocate in the way that all Christians mediate and advocate for one another through prayer. 1 Timothy 2:1 for example is Paul urging us to pray for one another.
I'm not really twisting anything. Your interpretation is a very common misinterpretation; nothing I haven't heard before. You simply refuse to understand those words in the context they were said. For instance, I explained the context and you said nothing about it; just reiterated.
Does this guy got a burr up his butt or what...did the Catholics throw him out? Seems hard to believe he was ever a priest. He must have cheated his way through seminary for he obviously lacks the intellectual 'adequacy' to have passed his courses. He distorts the truth at every turn and is a virtual font of bitter and psychopathic disinformation. Pity the poor suffering souls who take him seriously!
honorrable preacher bean beacon,all you said is true..but in our society false prophecy imerge and can never collapes due to the needs of people, money is the root of all sins..money can penetrate everything even truth,justice and even the words of god..,the only way you can fight this is to spread a group for churches to preach,teach,reknown the true meaning of gods words, i guess you need abig amount of money to do this to start a new meaningful life with god
He doesnt even klnow the diff. btw mysticism in an occult and christian context. The difference is huge and fundamental. God Himself is a mystery to us. So whats this fraud doing to begin with? The fact is that he actually knows the difference but does not explain it in order to cater to his own and his listernes absurd bias.
In any case, the word musterion (greek) from which our "mystery" is derived from has to do with promisse.
So, GOd being a mystery in christian context means that He (GOd) is in Himself a promisse. Secondly, mysticism in occult contexts are only to the few who have attain insight, thus they are mysteries no more. For christians however, divine mysteries are for absolutely all individuals, they are revealed mysteries yet they never cease to be mysteries cos they are eternal, hence never to be understood logically. Our hearts can understand mysteries even though our brain cannot.
@kaldbaksbotnur The mysteries of God are found in Holy Scripture, there is no personal spiritual epiphany or theophany achieved through your own personal efforts. All is revealed to the prophets ONLY through the grace of God.
I hope you know that what you are saying makes no sense. You just typed a non-sensical rant... congratulations. Have fun with your mysticism but I will stick to Holy Writ.
@WorshipInTruth oh my oh my, so agressive you are ,, LoL,, you take your private opinions much much too serious,,, after all, they are just your private opinions and therefore noone need listen to you. Furthermore you know, as well as I, that all you are is the hammer,,, thats all, nothing more, where as Holy Mother Church Militant is the anvil and it will wear out any hammer, yourself included. So keep hammering away, do your best, and you will see that Mother Church will only benefit from it.
@kaldbaksbotnur It is not my private opinion but the Gospel truth of the Bible. Your "Holy Mother Church Militiant" will certainly not survive the imminent return of the Christ. The very hierarchy of your so called "church" is based on the Roman priesthood of the pagan mystery religions. What a great deception, what a great harlot and imposter is your babylonian system. Your "pontifex maximus" and your worldly traditions will find their end at the second coming.
@WorshipInTruth LoL,, funny you should mention that Babylon thing, LoL u cant see the wood cos of all the trees LoL, Babel means confusion as u might know. Protestantism IS confusion.
Babel = Confusion = Protestantism. Its that simple.
And then u call US the Church of babylon??? Now that "logic" really beats me. LoL LoL. Do we have 33.000+ denominations fighting every major issue of the christian faith?? Who is Babel here i ask?? Protestantism or Catholicism??
@kaldbaksbotnur Laugh, Protestantism is not confusion. True Protestants merely base their faith on the unchanging Bible and not on the constantly changing traditions and edicts of some institution, that is the opposite of confusion. Protestants churches [if they be of good doctrine and practice] are united through the Holy Ghost, while the thousands of catholics sects are united only through the pope that notorious imposter and usurper of the role of Christ and the Holy Ghost.
@kaldbaksbotnur Remember, the tower of Babel was an edifice made to unite the world, in opposition to God, under one leader and vision. That is why the Most High confused their language and made them seperate. It is the babylonian spirit, the devil who is behind the ecunemical movement and the unification of the churches, governments, religions, nations and ideologies of the world. The devil is uniting the world in opposition to Christ just as he attempted at Babel.
@kaldbaksbotnur Babel is only called confusion because that is where GOD confused the babylonian empire of Nimrod. Protestants preach Biblical SEPERATION from wickedness.
You have only two options and we both know it, either you get tired or else you hammer yourself into extinction. Neither one is fun or pleasent but such are ur options and no more. But choose you must and choose you will, and acording to that which you chose directly or by not choosing (indirectly) such will your fate be.
@kaldbaksbotnur Ill hammer out the truth as long as I have time for it.
"But choose you must and choose you will, and acording to that which you chose directly or by not choosing (indirectly) such will your fate be."...... Ha, you sure are good for a laugh.
@WorshipInTruth wonderful!!! I truly hope you have a long time ahead of you. As I stated earlier, the more you hammer it out the brighter the truth of Holy Mother Church will shine. He who persecutes Holy Mother Church does it a favour, but he shall not himself escape what he is due.
@kaldbaksbotnur Laugh, I hardly doubt I can "persecute" a billion dollar institution which collectively owns more land then any other entity on the earth. The papal church has many elitest knighthoods and orders at its disposal and millions of zealous papists such as yourself who are completely blinded to the Gospel. It is Rome persecuting me, not the other way around.
@WorshipInTruth ahh well,,, thats the conspiracy thing, it always comes up. Apart from that error of yours that u think "we" want to "obliterate" you (probably with a clverly made vaccine or just flat out nuke you) I can inform you that its not a organisations but rather organisations (plural) that are TOTALLY selvgoverned unless directly under the pope. Every diocese, ever order is totally independant from Rome in monetary matters.
@kaldbaksbotnur That is precisely one of the ways the catholic church is able to hide the real amount of its almost infinite wealth, it claims that the wealth and captial of every individual religious order (and there are thousands) is somehow independent from the vatican although every one of these orders and diocese's ultimately pledge complete obedience and submission to the pope and the catholic system.
@kaldbaksbotnur I know it is not a secret that the vatican hides the true scope of its enormous wealth behind the various supposedly independent orders which are under its control. So peoples attacks on the legitimacy of the so called catholic church somehow justifies the aforementioned contested legitimacy? I must say, the rationality of your reasoning eludes me.
@kaldbaksbotnur Not to mention that the Vatican Bank (humorously called the "Institute for Works of Religion") is one of the most secretive banks in the world. There is no single "protestant" church which has even a tenth of the wealth and power and status as does the papacy and many of the so called "protestant" churches [i.e the Anglican "Anglo-CATHOLIC"] are today completely friendly with the papacy anyway.
@WorshipInTruth ahhaaaaa I seeeeee, so they are the illegitimate children of the whore etc etc etc,,, duuuh why did I see that before ;-) LoL, and you are, OF COURSE, fullblood truthand purity itself.
Yeah,,, hmmm you see, it is with you the same way as with all heretics, big pompous words and a lot of hot air, but utterly void of any real substance. The wilder and crazier the acusations get are somehow meant to fill up their emptiness.
@WorshipInTruth anyway,,,, speaking of "billion dollar institutions",,, any comment on american protestantism? U know as well as I that Mother Church is no match there, not even close. Much of american protestantism is a moneymachine. In any case, having money is in itself no sin.
@kaldbaksbotnur There are wolves who take advantage of religion for monetary gain from all religions and creeds and the pope is chief among them. Having property and money is not in itself a sin but hoarding money and riches is a totally different matter. How does the pope hope to escape damnation??
@kaldbaksbotnur "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:23-24
@WorshipInTruth keep hammering, keep hammering my friend. We need persecutors like you, its people like you who is the justification of the truth of Holy Mother Church Militant and you do an exelent job, most splendid, keep it up. We need people like you.
@kaldbaksbotnur .."keep hammering, keep hammering my friend. We need persecutors like you, its people like you who is the justification of the truth of Holy Mother Church Militant and you do an exelent job, most splendid, keep it up."
@WorshipInTruth and you all say, ohhh no no no its not MYYYYY opinion but the Bible says so and so,,,, well thats what all the 33.000+ sects say and yet they dont agree on so many fundamentals. You guys are in a hopeless babylonian confusion. Babylon applies to you, not us.
You guys have millions of opinons and yet you deny they are ur private ones. Why should ANYONE at all take anything you guys say serious? How could anyone? U guys arent credible, not even close.
This guy is a liar. There is not a single Catholic mystic NOT ONE who says that you can experience God directly bypassing Jesus- Christ. Rather it is through Jesus Christ that God is experienced. This man is a fraud and a liar.
@BahadurAliShah You are foolish. Most of the jesuits of today are teaching it. The Alumbrados-Jesuit connected mystics like Theresa of Ávila believed it. Same with St. John of the Cross, that sorcerer "Albert the Great", same with "St.Benedict", Clement of Alexandria, Origien or any other platonist for that matter. Just look at the teachings of that most highly venerated jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. You dont have a clue what you are talking about.
@BahadurAliShah Ignatius Loyola himself taught practically nothing BUT visionary practices, "spiritual exercises" and other forms of meditation to reach a higher consciousness of a greater union or understanding of God. ALL THIS bypasses Jesus, including catholic icons, sacraments, confessional etc. etc. Ignatius even gets into the realm of astral projection and other like things for his mystical hallucinations. There is a reason the jesuits get along so well with eastern mysticism.
@BahadurAliShah Just because they throw around the name of Jesus does not mean they are preaching the Gospel. That is the whole reason they were first called "Jesuits" because they blasphemously misappropriate the name of Jesus.
@WorshipinTruth: 1. You're a heretic and an apostate 2. No Catholic mystic has EVER claimed that you can bypass Christ. NEVER EVER!!! You limit Christi to his physical reality whereas Christ also has a spiritual reality that is perceived in visions and other spiritual experiences.
Christ is a spiritual reality on all levels of the visible and invisible world. Didn't Joseph receive prophetic dreams? Aren't such dreams also altered stated of consciousness inspired by God and not the flesh? You Sir lack a complete education on visionary experience.
@BahadurAliShah You apparently have no God given discernment when it comes to false prophets. Go bow to your icons and search after your marian apparitions but I will stick to the Biblical faith once delivered unto the saints.
@BahadurAliShah Perhaps you need to read up on the visionary practices of Ignatius Loyola, they are forced MENTAL practices in which the neophyte is supposed to slip into a state of meditation and visionize himself at various places, this is not at all like the prophets and Apostles of the Bible and they taught no such thing. How dare you compare the prophets to the delusions of catholic lunatics. All prophesy can be found in the Bible, it is a finished work from Genesis to Revelations
@BahadurAliShah First of all, calling somebody a heretic because they reject your institution is never an argument. Catholicism in general is ALWAYS coming up with ways to try to bypass the work of Christ at Calvary, the sacraments, icons, rosary, confessional, catholic amulets and pendants, prayers to saints and Mary are just a few examples. Since Vatican II catholic priests now come out and openly proclaim that you do not need to even believe on Jesus to be saved.
@BahadurAliShah Jesus Christ is at the right hand of the Father, he does come back and forth from the heavens to occassionally appear to delusional catholic mystics. It is the Holy Ghost which has been sent to guide and comfort until the Christ returns to us. God will give prophetic talents to whoever he will it is not something you can force through knowledge and quasi-pagan visionary practices.
They have killed the saints, and they will kill more and more as Jesus' return gets closer and their power increases. In South America it's going on now. If you want to see one of the results of the RCC in S, America, look up Santa Muerte on YouTube.
You are misjudging; catholic church completely forbids this kind of crap like Santa muerte and santeria, don´t be confused. Besides we should be fighting the secularization of the world instead of attacking each other
Forget the Catholic Church. They killed my brothers and sisters (the true saints of God) during the papal inquisitions that lasted for 6 centuries!!! The RCC will rise to power again, and persecute the true saints of God once more. (I believe in a pre-trib rapture so it is my belief that the saints will not be on the earth at the time, but those who are left behind will hear the gospel from the 144,000 and others, and will be saved, thus they are saints as well, and many will be martyred.
The Catholic quotes are dishonest. From just after he stopped quoting Nostra Aetate: Indeed, she [the Church] proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ "the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.(4)
Really? A Reformed man is actually denying the Incarnation? Oh brother...
Mysticism achieves nothing - the Gospel is all we need: that Christ died, Christ was buried, that Christ rose again and that men and women are called to repent and believe in that work of redemption. No need for weird experiences - simply repent, believe and obey the Scriptures.
Yeah, that sounds right. We don't really need to know Jesus, just know about Him. You know like... just the facts. Relationship is totally over rated... unless Jesus was serious when He said He would turn away the people He "never knew." If He was serious, then maybe we should go past knowing about and try really knowing Him. Maybe.
Strawman - I'm not saying stock up on facts for a great relationship with Jesus. We should know Jesus, but not through mystical experiences and going deep within us and but through thre gifts He has given us - His Word, the preaching of the Gospel, the fellowship of the saints.
You don't need mysticism - why make something so beautiful so weird and confusing?
To you who is speaking so loud in empty words, Why hasen't you given only one verse from the Holy Bible, but only with mortal thoughts? When I listen to other Orthodox Or Roman Catholic Theology Rites they are always giving their thoughts a certain depth within Quotations from the Holy Scriptures.Please keep your disagreamants for your self and stop taking "The name of the LORD in Vain". Insanity comes through BLASSPHEMY . There's nothing worse than a fallen preast, Satan is a Fallen angel.
To lump Voodoo and Buddhism into the same category betrays a profound reductionism on the part of this speaker. His speech makes me inclined to think he is an absolute-literalist, interpreting Jesus as a purely historical figure, with no symbolic or mystical dimensions... I am glad he represents an increasingly shrinking minority of bigoted (no offense) congregationers. This literalism was never accepted by catholicism, and is really an invention of the Protestant "sola scriptor" ("bible alone")
The man in this video is right on (He knows what he is talking about) Thia mystic crap is the beginning of interfaith-ism aka one world religion this is Bible prohisy coming about right in frount of our eyes. This is the comon ground betwine most religens and we are going to see this mystic crap unite all these religons into one and this is not a good thing.
Jesus Christ established one Church on earth (Matthew 16:18), "the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15)." He positioned Peter as the first pope to guide the flock (John 21:15-17), and that position has been passed down through a linage of popes (Acts 1:20) to our current Pope Benedict XVI. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against this Church (Matthew 16:19).
The Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church that Jesus Christ himself established and sustains.
Yeah, unless the Orthodox group that Roman Catholocism left around AD 1000 after they (the RC) added to the Nicean Creed is the true Church. Then RC's are in a lot of trouble... but no more than I am as a low church protestant. Maybe the God's grace is a lot bigger than our categories allow for? Maybe the group we belong to is not nearly as important to Him as it is to us? Maybe Who we belong to is what matters? If that is the case, then can we please stop fighting and have a legitiment talk?
I think it does matter because only within the true Church can you find the fullness of truth, and therefore salvation is more probable. Besides that, I would rather be part of the true fold that Jesus spoke of in John 10:16 than in a false one.
Of note, the Catholic Church did not break from Eastern Orthodoxy; rather, we both unintentionally and simultaneously drifted apart starting in 1050AD, and the split was not even fully recognized until the early 16th century.
Apparitions of Mary are not part of the deposit of faith in the Catholic Church, meaning we do not have to accept these apparitions if we don't want to. The truth of any claim to an apparition of Mary is left up to the individual Catholic to discern based on the evidence given (or perhaps they can hold no opinion at all in regards to a particular apparition).
Obviously those words were later coined in order to place a title upon those two concepts which we find in Holy Scripture.
The concept of purgatory is explicitly defined in Hebrews 12:23, where it mentions that the spirits of just men are made perfect by God. Other supportive verses include 1 Corinthians 3:19-15 and Matthew 5:26, among others.
The Assumption is a much more difficult concept to explain and requires a greater quantity of Scripture to back it. I will do so upon request.
Ok thanks; but Heb12:23 specifically refers to the church of Jesus Christ (the first born) and the general saints (already redeemed in His blood in HEAVEN); and to men made perfect in His blood via belief in Jesus. It represents those whose names are written in the book of kife (i.e. the redeemed) and had nothing to do with 'instalmental purification via punishments' nor does it says anything regarding 'purgatory'. Those redeemed in His blood will go straight to heaven (not purgatory)! as I see.
Actually, Hebrews 12:23 makes no reference to the salvation of these men, because it presupposes they are saved with the word "just" men. Rather, this is talking about sanctification alone, which is what purgatory is concerned with. These men are made pure by God before they can enter heaven, which is purgatory. Stop thinking of purgatory as a literal place; it is an act performed by God.
The bible said 'the just shall live by faith'. Those who are 'just' before God's eyes are they who are washed (or covered) in His Son's blood. This will only occur after salvation in Jesus. Anyone who is truly saved in Jesus will go to heaven after death, no matter what. The blood of Jesus is a 'blood covenant' that is far more powerful than anyone can imagine and it alone is adequate to save any man from spiritual death. A SAVED man CANNOT miss heaven either temporarily or permanently. The ...
Once again, neither purgatory nor Hebrews 12:23 deals with salvation. Salvation is presupposed in both of these. Purgatory has nothing to do with salvation because everyone who goes to purgatory is already saved.
I think you might want to study theology a bit further. Even Protestant scholars agree there is a distinction between Salvation and Sanctification. You seem to be blurring the lines a bit to make your case.
Obviously the men are saved, but they are not perfect until God makes them.
Nay; according to the RCC, 'purgatory' is a literal place where the souls of people go to after death to be purified of their 'bad deeds' before going to heaven. Not so? So dont say it aint a 'literal place' as understood by the RCC. Jesus never spoke of purgatory (or any temporary place of punishment and later salvation after death). Anyone who's saved in Jesus goes to heaven straight, not purgatory. I aint talking about sanctification here but purgatory. 'Sactification' is being separate.....
Hi Richard (part 2):
I left the Greek Orthodox church in 1973. KJV, non-denominational, Christian ever since. Thanking you for the Orthodox videos because of my mom, friends, relatives, etc that I am trying to bring out of there.Since then,I have studied the bible & related issues extensively.I think the Pentacostal movements: speaking in tongues, belief in pre-destination, etc.Have also been a large facilitator to the degradation of purity in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's church. Amen.
nfsdrive 1 week ago
Hi Richard:
Thank you for your wonderful videos & sermons which I have found to be truthful & full of the Holy Spirit. I was raised in the Greek Orthodox church by my parents & saw much of what you spoke of as the Orthodox church comes from the same roots. Glad to see that you've put out more videos on the E. Orthodox because they're hard to find as most videos on the net focus on the Catholic religion. I have prayed & will continue to pray for you & your ministry. May God always bless you.
nfsdrive 1 week ago
well done brother... i just found a weird book in the thrift store by brian d mclaren... it is off!!... you are correct... we must keep praying... thanks...
namqua123 1 month ago
what a croc
MrJasonBkn 2 months ago
Pay attention, read and listen to the signs all around you. Then read 1&2 Tim and Thess. You will see what he is describing. Mysticism has nothing to true Christianity. If you believe as much, you do so at your own peril. Excellent talk.
Prof2You 3 months ago
Even the churches of these days will persecute faithful Christians in the name of "preventing division." It appears that the 3 politically correct "virtues" of today are "unity," "diversity," and "tolerance."
Regardless of the "positive" intentions behind the emergent church, the Bible still holds the Truth, even since it does cause division.
Kyouryuu5000 4 months ago
pfff...typical, obsessive protestant garbage... yet again.
luciefurr1 5 months ago
@luciefurr1 Maybe you should listen
Prof2You 4 months ago
@Prof2You Maybe you should get out more often, feed the poor n heal the sick
luciefurr1 4 months ago
@luciefurr1 Been there, continue to do that. You?
Prof2You 3 months ago
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verwoestijning 5 months ago
the word I first thought of that describes my relationship with Jesus its thankfulness ,,,then conviction, grace, love, humility, adoration and obedience
candiceevans1 7 months ago
This individual is totally twisting everythng. Mysticism is the ability to actually EXPERIENCE DIVINE REALITIES directly. For instance, recalling past lives, out of body travel into Heavenly Worlds (II Corinthians..."I knew a man, whether in the body or out of the body, I know not, who was caught up in the third Heaven..") Experiencing Divine LIGHT AND SOUND..(In the beginning there was the WORD, is a reference to DIVINE SOUND). Voodoo is a means to contact evil spirits, not Mysticism at all
moranplano 7 months ago
@moranplano you quoted this incorrectly,,, 'I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know--God knows. PAUL WASNT CONDONING OUT OF THE BODY EXP he was saying he didnt know wether the man was taken physically or spiritually. Im not trying to be flippant but theology matters,,,you cant take one line and build a doctrine around it,,,the entirity of christian writings condemn these pagan practicies
candiceevans1 7 months ago
@candiceevans1 Out of body travel was used by the MYSTICS of many paths to EXPERIENCE the HEAVENS and become ENLIGHTENED. How could visiting Heaven be condemned? The GNOSTICS used DYING DAILY or SOUL TRAVEL to find the Truths of GOD. The Early Church killed the Gnostics and their practices because they didn't fit in to doctrine. People might start recalling past lives and know there was no HELL or Blood Redemption...can't have that. YOUTUBE has some excellent vids on Christian Mysticism.
moranplano 7 months ago
@candiceevans1 How can you say that Out of body travel is pagen. Most of the accounts that I have read about concern the Enlightened Saints and Mystics of various paths..Christian, Hindu, Buddhism, Islam..etc. The devotee usually began being taken out of the body into the Heavenly Worlds, there they communed with DIVINE and became ILLUMINATED SAINTS. They developed these skills and were able to make DYING DAILY a part of their routine. Padre Pio, St. Francis, St. Teresa, Rumi, Shamus Tabriz
moranplano 7 months ago
At 27:09, he reveals himself to be a liar. He says Ignatius of Loyola died a nonbeliever. Big lie. He claims that the Paulicians (he mistakenly calls them Paulines) and Albigensians were 'true Christians'!! Big Lies! The Paulicians rejected the OT & the Incarnation. Christ was an angel sent by God. The Albigensians believed in Two gods, one good, one evil. These were not christians in any sense of the word. Look them up. People, run from this man. I think his accident damaged his brain..
MuffinMario 8 months ago in playlist What Every Catholic Should Know Play List
This guy's nutty. He attacks mystical longing for God. What's wrong with that? What's lethal about longing for God? This is a longing to be with God, to be holy, to have one's will totally submissive to God's. The Catholic Church, and it's mystics, do NOT teach any kind of blurry 'union or 'nothingness'. They don't teach that we aim to see 'nothing'. It's so twisted. This is the best he's got? People, you want to know what Catholicism teaches? just read the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
MuffinMario 8 months ago
@MuffinMario Who are the many? Who are few?
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:13-15 Which are you on?
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@MuffinMario You mean the catholic catechism that removes the 2nd Commandment dealing w/ idol worship and splits the 10th into 2 separate commandments to keep a total of 10? No wonder the cult of the dead woman teaches to pray to dead saints. They removed the commandment NOT to pray to dead saints. Please come out of the whore.
filoIII 8 months ago
@filoIII The Catholic Church teaches the 10 commandments. NONE have been removed. EVERY single commandment is in the Catholic list. The worship God alone and don't worship idols are in our 1st commandment because they are related to each other. Basically: worship Me and no other. The covet neighbor's wife and goods are two because they relate to different things. But anyway, there are no numbers in the bible! All lists have been numbered by people. The bible simply states them without numbers
MuffinMario 7 months ago
@MuffinMario Funny how you failed to deal w/ my statement saying the catholic catechism removes the 2nd Commandment dealing w/ idol worship and splits the 10th into 2 separate ones.
filoIII 7 months ago
@filoIII Funny how you failed to read my answer. What you call the 2nd C is not removed. It is included in the Catholic 1st C. The Catholic 1st C goes: I am the Lord, etc..you shall not worship other gods..you shall not make idols.... It's all there. We include it all in the 1st C while you split it. The point is that no C's have been deleted. They are simply numbered differently. But if you want to keep believing anti-Catholic propaganda, I can't stop you. It's easy to look up the truth.
MuffinMario 7 months ago
@MuffinMario The Catechism of the Council of Trent says- "It is lawful to have images in the church, and to give honor and worship unto them." Spin it however you best can to try to put forth the whore in a good light. Your catechism doesn't have the 2nd Commandment dealing w/ idol worship.
filoIII 7 months ago
@MuffinMario Im sorry but youre wrong,,,the catholic church removed the commandment ab graven images,,,,go right now and look this up,,the one ab graven images is ,the 2nd commandment,,,, in the catholic version it will not be there,,,they split the 9th commandment into 2 to fill in the gap,,,I hope you have the courage to look into this and look at the book of duteronomy,,,,noone has the authority to change GODs commands,,,,Im sorry but youre in a heretical church
candiceevans1 7 months ago
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sir the first commandment is thou shall have no other GOD but the one GOD, NUMBER TWO IS THOU SHALT NOT CREATE GRAVEN IMAGES OF ANYTHING IN HEAVEN ON EARTH OR BELOW THE EARTH,,,
candiceevans1 7 months ago
SIR YOURE WRONG,,,everyone knows the 10 commandments,,,are you going to tell me that thou shalt not create graven images is not one of the commandments? its always been the second commandment,,,the cath church removed it,,, and made the last into 2,,,,this is well documented and its obvious because theres one missing ,,,they knew the statues were a sin,,,nothing will make u leave if murder, torture, the jesuits, child rape and homosexual priests didnt get you to leave nothing will
candiceevans1 7 months ago
@candiceevans1 YOU ARE WRONG. The Catholic Church has NOT removed it. There is no numerical division of the Commandments in Exodus and Deuteronomy. They are simply listed. The Church includes graven imagery in the First Commandment because it has to do with adoration for God alone. The numbering found in Catholic Bibles, based on the Hebrew text, was made by St. Augustine (fifth century) in his book of "Questions of Exodus"
MuffinMario 6 months ago
Respond to this video... ..Continued.... It is followed also by the German Lutherans. This makes the 1st Commandment relate to false worship and to the worship of false gods as to a single subject & class of sins to be guarded against. The injunction forbidding the use of the Lord's Name in vain comes 2nd in order for us (3rd for you); and your 10th is the Catholic 9th pointing to sins of the flesh and the 10th to desires for unlawful possession of goods. So ALL of it is there.
MuffinMario 6 months ago
Did anyone else notice the upside down cross when he made the sign of the cross on himself?
soulsurcher 8 months ago in playlist What Every Catholic Should Know Play List
Do you know what I have problem with? It's this whole idea of the catholic church being universal. I mean everyone knows or has heard of the Catholic church. You see it movies, in the news media. It's captured by the eyes and ears of almost every individual in the world. Didn't Jesus say in Matt7:13 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction"? So that would make one think twice before considering the Catholic church
soulsurcher 8 months ago in playlist What Every Catholic Should Know Play List
@soulsurcher There are many vehicles on the broad way and God has provided the delusion for all those that reject the narrow way. Many change vehicles along the way and all are content, except for those nuts calling to them to the narrow way.
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. Isaiah 66:4
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 I couldn't of worded it better.
soulsurcher 8 months ago
@soulsurcher But that's just it, the Catholic Church is attacked everywhere. There's nothing easy about being a Catholic. The road is not wide and broad. It is difficult to be a Catholic. In fact, most Catholics are poor Catholics. I don't know who this guy speaking is, but he sounds weird. Voodoo is not Catholic. There's something 'off' in his talk. I mean, if an ex Baptist minister were to speak about Baptists who drink, or play with new age or wicca stuff, does it really have any bearing?
MuffinMario 8 months ago in playlist What Every Catholic Should Know Play List
@MuffinMario The truth of the matter is that every mans work will be made manifest. You say you're Catholic, I say I'm Christian Apostolic, but it matters not what we are called. In the end our works as well as our faith in Almighty God will be tested. It's time for us to start proving our faith in God and stop arguing over religion. You say you believe in God then prove your belief in him by works of righteiousness and acts faith. I'm going abandon this ignorance, because it does nothing for me
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krish8253 9 months ago
You don't bypass the mind, moron. You access the deeper levels of the mind. Shows how little you understand mysticism.
mysticoversoul 11 months ago
Horseshit.
jimmybryght 1 year ago
Good video. Thank you for the post.
MsHannelore 1 year ago
@MsHannelore This guy does not have all of his facts correct. I believe that he follows a westernized version of Christianity, which is a deviation from Roman Catholicism, which deviated via the Schism, from Orthodox Christianity, which is just regular christianity without denomination, and is primarily practiced in the east. Western Christianity is best described as Christian - Lite. When the west witnesses Eastern Christianity, in its most Jewish form, they are afraid, because they do not know
mikelunz 9 months ago
@MsHannelore However, there are some things that he says are true.
mikelunz 9 months ago
Mysticism: by-passing the mind AND Jesus Christ to have a Direct Experience of God--RCchurch does Not discourage Mysticism / Voodooism ...RCC officially recog. Pagan Religions at Vatican Council II --validates Hinduism/ Budhaism/ are ways to GOD???!!!! No.68 Gaudium et Spes, Vol 1 Sec.2,3 pp904-905 --divine element in all mankind... William Johnson- since Vat.Council II 'all nonChristian religions seen as Valid ways to God...
google Malachi Martin...'Windswept House'
kkkkkkatherine 1 year ago
Thank you Richard for exposing the lies, all Catholics should hear this and learn the correct way to worship God.
goldmen7 1 year ago
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Good preaching. HAVE YOU READ YOUR BIBLE TODAY? Have you seen that GOD IS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOUR AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED IS BELIEVE ON THE LORD AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED
chews4life 1 year ago
This doesn't make sense, just touching a tree, you make direct contact with god
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jVerily 1 year ago
Bless you Richard, we need more teachers like you. Keep standing for the truth.
laurian27453 1 year ago
@laurian27453 Fuck you Richard , we dont need trash like you keep puking LIES.
Enigmatik691 1 year ago
This individual has a tragic narrowness of vision. No such thing as "Christian mysticism?" What is he talking about? He's just written off an integral element of our tradition.
fireandrose1962 1 year ago
KEEP ON BARKING WHILE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE MAIN AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST. THREE TIMES LOSERS are those who believe this trash.
Enigmatik691 1 year ago
@Enigmatik691 catholic church history is satanic! Acts 2 38
erichathy222 1 year ago 2
JESUS is the savior,He is the way the truth and the life no one come to the father exept through Him. Catolics pray the virgin mary and all that, it s not christian!!!
Change your ways, believe in HIM, leave the traditions God is so much than that, He will save us.
77JesusSaves 1 year ago
@77JesusSaves the only thing u said that was truth, is that jesus is "the way" which means "the path" to be saved. and not in the way christians see him, cuz they "created" him or lied about him in many ways. many words of many gnostics and essenists, that have been said by them, are now the "words of jesus". for example John the Baptist.
tomek92pl 1 year ago
@tomek92pl do not judge all christians as if you knew all of them. you put all of them is the same bag, don t do it. those who lied about Him are not christian, simple as that. they put a curse on themselves.
we need to understand that some person do not have the full knoledge and do not have the relationship with Jesus. Correct them, teach them with love.
I am saying the truth when i say: leave the traditions, God is more than that. Look at Saul who became Paul, he left the traditions
77JesusSaves 1 year ago
@77JesusSaves no, seriously, its about all the christians. about the catholic church and what they teach, is COMPLETELY far away from chist's path.
tomek92pl 1 year ago
@tomek92pl IGNORANT trash
Enigmatik691 1 year ago
@Enigmatik691 i am not the ignorant here
tomek92pl 1 year ago
@tomek92pl John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.--Is this the false teaching from John you speak of?
filoIII 8 months ago
@filoIII nope, this is not what i ment. though when i was writing this i was learning 'false' knowledge, (not anymore) but still, it was true. lots of his words and things about him were falsified. but anyway... following anything that he was teaching, WILL lead you somewhere, but first, you have to understand what he was teaching, and the church wont teach you this.
tomek92pl 8 months ago
@apopyalips I am unshakable in my belief, dear sir, that you are in desperate need of some professional help.
KingLearly 1 year ago
@apopyalips I listened to this man and he is absolutely wrong. I can prove everything the Church teaches from Scripture.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18 I want to see
RachaelOtiegbe 1 year ago
@RachaelOtiegbe What is it you want to see? If you go to my channel, I have a video for just about every Catholic teaching, each using Scripture heavily.
SeptemberCatholic18 1 year ago
@SeptemberCatholic18 You can prove that Mary was sinless, co-redeemer w/ Jesus, and was assumed into heaven? You can prove purgatory & indulgences?
filoIII 8 months ago
@filoIII I have a website called ArmoredCatholic where I demonstrate all of those from Scripture. I'm sure you misunderstand what we mean by co-redemptrix; it doesn't mean that Jesus and Mary are equal or that Mary did half of the redeeming or something like that.
SeptemberCatholic18 8 months ago
@SeptemberCatholic18 St. Antonius (circa 250 - 350): "All graces that have ever been bestowed on men, all came through Mary." St. Bernard (1090 - 1153): "[Mary is called] the gate of heaven, because no one can enter that blessed kingdom without passing through her." Saint Alphonsus wrote a book "The Glories of Mary." Various chapters in the book are titled: "Mary our Help," "Mary our Mediatress," "Mary our Advocate."
filoIII 8 months ago
@SeptemberCatholic18 1935: Pope Pius XI gave the title co-redemptrix to Mary during a radio broadcast. 1985: Pope John Paul II recognized Mary as "co-redemptrix" during a speech in Guayaquil, Ecuador, stating. in part, "Having suffered for the Church, Mary deserved to become the Mother of all the disciples of her Son, the Mother of their unity...In fact Mary’s role as Co-redemptrix did not cease with the glorification of her Son." --I'm quite familiar w/ the cult of the dead woman. Want more?
filoIII 8 months ago
@filoIII No, as I figured you are misunderstanding the teaching. Once again, this does not equate Mary with Jesus nor does it mean she did half of the redeeming or something like that.
The quotes you referenced are understood in the context of the fact that Mary was the instrument used to bring Jesus into the world in the flesh, so in a sense all of Jesus' graces come through Mary in that Jesus was incarnated through her. Of course, she is still a creature who receives Jesus' grace herself.
SeptemberCatholic18 8 months ago
@SeptemberCatholic18 1987-MAR-25: In his encyclical Redemptoris Mater, Pope John Paul II "referred to Mary as 'Mediatrix' three times, and as 'Advocate' twice." I can show you other pagan religions that believe this. If catholicism is Christian, please show me this in the Bible.
Twist it how you wish. Facts are a tricky thing to get around. Remember that as you try to justify YOUR catholic leaders.
filoIII 8 months ago
@filoIII Mary is a mediator and advocate in the way that all Christians mediate and advocate for one another through prayer. 1 Timothy 2:1 for example is Paul urging us to pray for one another.
I'm not really twisting anything. Your interpretation is a very common misinterpretation; nothing I haven't heard before. You simply refuse to understand those words in the context they were said. For instance, I explained the context and you said nothing about it; just reiterated.
SeptemberCatholic18 8 months ago
Does this guy got a burr up his butt or what...did the Catholics throw him out? Seems hard to believe he was ever a priest. He must have cheated his way through seminary for he obviously lacks the intellectual 'adequacy' to have passed his courses. He distorts the truth at every turn and is a virtual font of bitter and psychopathic disinformation. Pity the poor suffering souls who take him seriously!
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honorrable preacher bean beacon,all you said is true..but in our society false prophecy imerge and can never collapes due to the needs of people, money is the root of all sins..money can penetrate everything even truth,justice and even the words of god..,the only way you can fight this is to spread a group for churches to preach,teach,reknown the true meaning of gods words, i guess you need abig amount of money to do this to start a new meaningful life with god
Edgardo977 1 year ago
This guy is a moron.
myrrdinoftheforest 1 year ago
This man is intellectually "limited."
MyBetty111 1 year ago
The Novus Ordo Church is a mess. Bring back the TLM.
MyBetty111 1 year ago
Hah! What a bunch of crap!
aibucrump 1 year ago
My dear speaker we have been on the battle field fighting this since a longtime ago;we are known as conspiracy theorist.........lol
AVeLLiiii 1 year ago
Voodoo is no more nor less true than christianity, hinduism, islam or any other mythology and superstition based delusions.
fctchk 1 year ago
This guy is a fraud. geesh LoL just too obvious.
kaldbaksbotnur 2 years ago
@kaldbaksbotnur How do you figure? The catholic church is the fraud.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
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He doesnt even klnow the diff. btw mysticism in an occult and christian context. The difference is huge and fundamental. God Himself is a mystery to us. So whats this fraud doing to begin with? The fact is that he actually knows the difference but does not explain it in order to cater to his own and his listernes absurd bias.
In any case, the word musterion (greek) from which our "mystery" is derived from has to do with promisse.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth
So, GOd being a mystery in christian context means that He (GOd) is in Himself a promisse. Secondly, mysticism in occult contexts are only to the few who have attain insight, thus they are mysteries no more. For christians however, divine mysteries are for absolutely all individuals, they are revealed mysteries yet they never cease to be mysteries cos they are eternal, hence never to be understood logically. Our hearts can understand mysteries even though our brain cannot.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur The mysteries of God are found in Holy Scripture, there is no personal spiritual epiphany or theophany achieved through your own personal efforts. All is revealed to the prophets ONLY through the grace of God.
I hope you know that what you are saying makes no sense. You just typed a non-sensical rant... congratulations. Have fun with your mysticism but I will stick to Holy Writ.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth oh my oh my, so agressive you are ,, LoL,, you take your private opinions much much too serious,,, after all, they are just your private opinions and therefore noone need listen to you. Furthermore you know, as well as I, that all you are is the hammer,,, thats all, nothing more, where as Holy Mother Church Militant is the anvil and it will wear out any hammer, yourself included. So keep hammering away, do your best, and you will see that Mother Church will only benefit from it.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur It is not my private opinion but the Gospel truth of the Bible. Your "Holy Mother Church Militiant" will certainly not survive the imminent return of the Christ. The very hierarchy of your so called "church" is based on the Roman priesthood of the pagan mystery religions. What a great deception, what a great harlot and imposter is your babylonian system. Your "pontifex maximus" and your worldly traditions will find their end at the second coming.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth LoL,, funny you should mention that Babylon thing, LoL u cant see the wood cos of all the trees LoL, Babel means confusion as u might know. Protestantism IS confusion.
Babel = Confusion = Protestantism. Its that simple.
And then u call US the Church of babylon??? Now that "logic" really beats me. LoL LoL. Do we have 33.000+ denominations fighting every major issue of the christian faith?? Who is Babel here i ask?? Protestantism or Catholicism??
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Laugh, Protestantism is not confusion. True Protestants merely base their faith on the unchanging Bible and not on the constantly changing traditions and edicts of some institution, that is the opposite of confusion. Protestants churches [if they be of good doctrine and practice] are united through the Holy Ghost, while the thousands of catholics sects are united only through the pope that notorious imposter and usurper of the role of Christ and the Holy Ghost.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Remember, the tower of Babel was an edifice made to unite the world, in opposition to God, under one leader and vision. That is why the Most High confused their language and made them seperate. It is the babylonian spirit, the devil who is behind the ecunemical movement and the unification of the churches, governments, religions, nations and ideologies of the world. The devil is uniting the world in opposition to Christ just as he attempted at Babel.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Babel is only called confusion because that is where GOD confused the babylonian empire of Nimrod. Protestants preach Biblical SEPERATION from wickedness.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth keep hammering ;-)
You have only two options and we both know it, either you get tired or else you hammer yourself into extinction. Neither one is fun or pleasent but such are ur options and no more. But choose you must and choose you will, and acording to that which you chose directly or by not choosing (indirectly) such will your fate be.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Ill hammer out the truth as long as I have time for it.
"But choose you must and choose you will, and acording to that which you chose directly or by not choosing (indirectly) such will your fate be."...... Ha, you sure are good for a laugh.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth wonderful!!! I truly hope you have a long time ahead of you. As I stated earlier, the more you hammer it out the brighter the truth of Holy Mother Church will shine. He who persecutes Holy Mother Church does it a favour, but he shall not himself escape what he is due.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Laugh, I hardly doubt I can "persecute" a billion dollar institution which collectively owns more land then any other entity on the earth. The papal church has many elitest knighthoods and orders at its disposal and millions of zealous papists such as yourself who are completely blinded to the Gospel. It is Rome persecuting me, not the other way around.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth ahh well,,, thats the conspiracy thing, it always comes up. Apart from that error of yours that u think "we" want to "obliterate" you (probably with a clverly made vaccine or just flat out nuke you) I can inform you that its not a organisations but rather organisations (plural) that are TOTALLY selvgoverned unless directly under the pope. Every diocese, ever order is totally independant from Rome in monetary matters.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur That is precisely one of the ways the catholic church is able to hide the real amount of its almost infinite wealth, it claims that the wealth and captial of every individual religious order (and there are thousands) is somehow independent from the vatican although every one of these orders and diocese's ultimately pledge complete obedience and submission to the pope and the catholic system.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth LoL LoL, you talkt abt it as if its a seceret LoL, i mean I just told you LoL, this shows your deluded and crazed mindset.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur I know it is not a secret that the vatican hides the true scope of its enormous wealth behind the various supposedly independent orders which are under its control. So peoples attacks on the legitimacy of the so called catholic church somehow justifies the aforementioned contested legitimacy? I must say, the rationality of your reasoning eludes me.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Not to mention that the Vatican Bank (humorously called the "Institute for Works of Religion") is one of the most secretive banks in the world. There is no single "protestant" church which has even a tenth of the wealth and power and status as does the papacy and many of the so called "protestant" churches [i.e the Anglican "Anglo-CATHOLIC"] are today completely friendly with the papacy anyway.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth ahhaaaaa I seeeeee, so they are the illegitimate children of the whore etc etc etc,,, duuuh why did I see that before ;-) LoL, and you are, OF COURSE, fullblood truthand purity itself.
Yeah,,, hmmm you see, it is with you the same way as with all heretics, big pompous words and a lot of hot air, but utterly void of any real substance. The wilder and crazier the acusations get are somehow meant to fill up their emptiness.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth anyway,,,, speaking of "billion dollar institutions",,, any comment on american protestantism? U know as well as I that Mother Church is no match there, not even close. Much of american protestantism is a moneymachine. In any case, having money is in itself no sin.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur There are wolves who take advantage of religion for monetary gain from all religions and creeds and the pope is chief among them. Having property and money is not in itself a sin but hoarding money and riches is a totally different matter. How does the pope hope to escape damnation??
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@kaldbaksbotnur "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." - Matthew 19:23-24
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth keep hammering, keep hammering my friend. We need persecutors like you, its people like you who is the justification of the truth of Holy Mother Church Militant and you do an exelent job, most splendid, keep it up. We need people like you.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
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@kaldbaksbotnur .."keep hammering, keep hammering my friend. We need persecutors like you, its people like you who is the justification of the truth of Holy Mother Church Militant and you do an exelent job, most splendid, keep it up."
...sayeth Satan.
bella50008 1 month ago
@kaldbaksbotnur Take your absurd ravings somewhere else.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth
LoL, now now, calm down ;-)
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth and you all say, ohhh no no no its not MYYYYY opinion but the Bible says so and so,,,, well thats what all the 33.000+ sects say and yet they dont agree on so many fundamentals. You guys are in a hopeless babylonian confusion. Babylon applies to you, not us.
You guys have millions of opinons and yet you deny they are ur private ones. Why should ANYONE at all take anything you guys say serious? How could anyone? U guys arent credible, not even close.
You are BABEL- CONFUSION.
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
This guy is a liar. There is not a single Catholic mystic NOT ONE who says that you can experience God directly bypassing Jesus- Christ. Rather it is through Jesus Christ that God is experienced. This man is a fraud and a liar.
BahadurAliShah 2 years ago
@BahadurAliShah You are foolish. Most of the jesuits of today are teaching it. The Alumbrados-Jesuit connected mystics like Theresa of Ávila believed it. Same with St. John of the Cross, that sorcerer "Albert the Great", same with "St.Benedict", Clement of Alexandria, Origien or any other platonist for that matter. Just look at the teachings of that most highly venerated jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. You dont have a clue what you are talking about.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah Ignatius Loyola himself taught practically nothing BUT visionary practices, "spiritual exercises" and other forms of meditation to reach a higher consciousness of a greater union or understanding of God. ALL THIS bypasses Jesus, including catholic icons, sacraments, confessional etc. etc. Ignatius even gets into the realm of astral projection and other like things for his mystical hallucinations. There is a reason the jesuits get along so well with eastern mysticism.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah Just because they throw around the name of Jesus does not mean they are preaching the Gospel. That is the whole reason they were first called "Jesuits" because they blasphemously misappropriate the name of Jesus.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipinTruth: 1. You're a heretic and an apostate 2. No Catholic mystic has EVER claimed that you can bypass Christ. NEVER EVER!!! You limit Christi to his physical reality whereas Christ also has a spiritual reality that is perceived in visions and other spiritual experiences.
BahadurAliShah 1 year ago
Christ is a spiritual reality on all levels of the visible and invisible world. Didn't Joseph receive prophetic dreams? Aren't such dreams also altered stated of consciousness inspired by God and not the flesh? You Sir lack a complete education on visionary experience.
BahadurAliShah 1 year ago
Visionary experience is present in Holy scripture: prophetic dreams are an example of it. You're simply denying it.
BahadurAliShah 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah You apparently have no God given discernment when it comes to false prophets. Go bow to your icons and search after your marian apparitions but I will stick to the Biblical faith once delivered unto the saints.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth wow, you are just about to take of and get airborn,,, just a little more and your there ;-)
kaldbaksbotnur 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah Perhaps you need to read up on the visionary practices of Ignatius Loyola, they are forced MENTAL practices in which the neophyte is supposed to slip into a state of meditation and visionize himself at various places, this is not at all like the prophets and Apostles of the Bible and they taught no such thing. How dare you compare the prophets to the delusions of catholic lunatics. All prophesy can be found in the Bible, it is a finished work from Genesis to Revelations
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah You are being misled by wolves. You fall for lieing signs and wonders such as stigmata's which have been proven to be faked.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah First of all, calling somebody a heretic because they reject your institution is never an argument. Catholicism in general is ALWAYS coming up with ways to try to bypass the work of Christ at Calvary, the sacraments, icons, rosary, confessional, catholic amulets and pendants, prayers to saints and Mary are just a few examples. Since Vatican II catholic priests now come out and openly proclaim that you do not need to even believe on Jesus to be saved.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@BahadurAliShah Jesus Christ is at the right hand of the Father, he does come back and forth from the heavens to occassionally appear to delusional catholic mystics. It is the Holy Ghost which has been sent to guide and comfort until the Christ returns to us. God will give prophetic talents to whoever he will it is not something you can force through knowledge and quasi-pagan visionary practices.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
Hold on. I am a catholic Seminarian. I dont mean to be rude but
1. We believe in JESUS CHRIST as our sole mediator between us and God you cant get to God the Father except through him.
2. Why would the Pope claim to be Vicar of Christ, why would we pray to Christ why why why if we ignored him.
3. Catholicism forbids participation in necromancy or the occult so what the hell is this wacko talking about.
d0wnandc0nn0r 2 years ago
And for those of you agains images I would recommend reading how Solomon decorated his temple in chapter 6 of the book of Kings, read carefully
jsegural100 2 years ago
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Shevaberakhot 2 years ago
They have killed the saints, and they will kill more and more as Jesus' return gets closer and their power increases. In South America it's going on now. If you want to see one of the results of the RCC in S, America, look up Santa Muerte on YouTube.
snowleopard205 2 years ago
You are misjudging; catholic church completely forbids this kind of crap like Santa muerte and santeria, don´t be confused. Besides we should be fighting the secularization of the world instead of attacking each other
jsegural100 2 years ago
Forget the Catholic Church. They killed my brothers and sisters (the true saints of God) during the papal inquisitions that lasted for 6 centuries!!! The RCC will rise to power again, and persecute the true saints of God once more. (I believe in a pre-trib rapture so it is my belief that the saints will not be on the earth at the time, but those who are left behind will hear the gospel from the 144,000 and others, and will be saved, thus they are saints as well, and many will be martyred.
LionofJudah871 2 years ago
I have the document of the Vatican II Council at hand, and it has been completely taken out of context. Too sad how the church gets attacked :-(
jsegural100 2 years ago
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Shevaberakhot 2 years ago
The Catholic quotes are dishonest. From just after he stopped quoting Nostra Aetate: Indeed, she [the Church] proclaims, and ever must proclaim Christ "the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6), in whom men may find the fullness of religious life, in whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.(4)
person6113 2 years ago
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Shevaberakhot 2 years ago
In the last days, God said,
I will pour out my Spirit upon all people."
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
and your old men will dream dreams.
In those days I will pour out my Spirit
upon all my servants, men and women alike,
and they will prophesy."-Peter the Apostle. Oh noes!!! Peter was a mystic!!! You want to preach him into Hell too you lying snake!
CrossoverManiac 2 years ago
That was fulfilled at Pentecost - read Acts 2...
Wired4Truth 2 years ago
So that only happened in Acts 2? [sarcasm]Didn't know God was limited to 2000 years ago and he's powerless now?[/sarcasm]
CrossoverManiac 2 years ago
To put single point on it this guys "theology" equates to an implicit denial of the incarnation of Jesus Christ.
MeisterDude 2 years ago
Really? A Reformed man is actually denying the Incarnation? Oh brother...
Mysticism achieves nothing - the Gospel is all we need: that Christ died, Christ was buried, that Christ rose again and that men and women are called to repent and believe in that work of redemption. No need for weird experiences - simply repent, believe and obey the Scriptures.
Wired4Truth 2 years ago
Yeah, that sounds right. We don't really need to know Jesus, just know about Him. You know like... just the facts. Relationship is totally over rated... unless Jesus was serious when He said He would turn away the people He "never knew." If He was serious, then maybe we should go past knowing about and try really knowing Him. Maybe.
theMovementOK 2 years ago
Strawman - I'm not saying stock up on facts for a great relationship with Jesus. We should know Jesus, but not through mystical experiences and going deep within us and but through thre gifts He has given us - His Word, the preaching of the Gospel, the fellowship of the saints.
You don't need mysticism - why make something so beautiful so weird and confusing?
Wired4Truth 2 years ago
Look up Cathal O Searcaigh if you want to know about Catholic Mysticism
crustyjuggler83 2 years ago
so Catholics are accepting and loving of all peoples and religions now?
maybe I should come back to the faith after all
Zander971 2 years ago
thats what they want
antigurus2 2 years ago
This guy is an IDIOT.
unitynjah 2 years ago
If that's all you can say, then speak for yourself!
troy1387 2 years ago
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unitynjah 2 years ago
Who else would I be speaking for?
unitynjah 2 years ago
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unitynjah 2 years ago
To you who is speaking so loud in empty words, Why hasen't you given only one verse from the Holy Bible, but only with mortal thoughts? When I listen to other Orthodox Or Roman Catholic Theology Rites they are always giving their thoughts a certain depth within Quotations from the Holy Scriptures.Please keep your disagreamants for your self and stop taking "The name of the LORD in Vain". Insanity comes through BLASSPHEMY . There's nothing worse than a fallen preast, Satan is a Fallen angel.
mtaanios 2 years ago
Your 'ministry' is so annoying.
It real doesn't hold up to real theological truths.
Raffzeee 2 years ago 2
AMEN!!
Redsanda 3 years ago
To lump Voodoo and Buddhism into the same category betrays a profound reductionism on the part of this speaker. His speech makes me inclined to think he is an absolute-literalist, interpreting Jesus as a purely historical figure, with no symbolic or mystical dimensions... I am glad he represents an increasingly shrinking minority of bigoted (no offense) congregationers. This literalism was never accepted by catholicism, and is really an invention of the Protestant "sola scriptor" ("bible alone")
galen365 3 years ago 3
The man in this video is right on (He knows what he is talking about) Thia mystic crap is the beginning of interfaith-ism aka one world religion this is Bible prohisy coming about right in frount of our eyes. This is the comon ground betwine most religens and we are going to see this mystic crap unite all these religons into one and this is not a good thing.
naos71381 3 years ago
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Jesus Christ established one Church on earth (Matthew 16:18), "the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15)." He positioned Peter as the first pope to guide the flock (John 21:15-17), and that position has been passed down through a linage of popes (Acts 1:20) to our current Pope Benedict XVI. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against this Church (Matthew 16:19).
The Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church that Jesus Christ himself established and sustains.
SeptemberCatholic18 3 years ago
Yeah, unless the Orthodox group that Roman Catholocism left around AD 1000 after they (the RC) added to the Nicean Creed is the true Church. Then RC's are in a lot of trouble... but no more than I am as a low church protestant. Maybe the God's grace is a lot bigger than our categories allow for? Maybe the group we belong to is not nearly as important to Him as it is to us? Maybe Who we belong to is what matters? If that is the case, then can we please stop fighting and have a legitiment talk?
theMovementOK 2 years ago
I think it does matter because only within the true Church can you find the fullness of truth, and therefore salvation is more probable. Besides that, I would rather be part of the true fold that Jesus spoke of in John 10:16 than in a false one.
Of note, the Catholic Church did not break from Eastern Orthodoxy; rather, we both unintentionally and simultaneously drifted apart starting in 1050AD, and the split was not even fully recognized until the early 16th century.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
The RCC would do well to acknowledge the spiritual deception of Lourdes.
The RCC knows the truth and yet still continues in error and has lampshade for a lampstand.
We wait with baited breath to see if Eastern Orthodoxy rises to the challenge. I'm not hopeful, seeing as she also persists in promoting other gods.
And I am the Lord your God from the land of Egypt, and gods besides Me you should not know, and there is no Saviour but Me. Hosea 13:4
Listen!
Shevaberakhot 2 years ago
Apparitions of Mary are not part of the deposit of faith in the Catholic Church, meaning we do not have to accept these apparitions if we don't want to. The truth of any claim to an apparition of Mary is left up to the individual Catholic to discern based on the evidence given (or perhaps they can hold no opinion at all in regards to a particular apparition).
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
I would not say that the Church sets up false gods. Idolatry is specifically forbidden in both the Bible and the Catechism (CCC 2112-2114).
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
Please could you show me where in the bible 'assumption of Mary' and 'purgatory' succinctly and explicitly occurs?
7olusegun 2 years ago
Obviously those words were later coined in order to place a title upon those two concepts which we find in Holy Scripture.
The concept of purgatory is explicitly defined in Hebrews 12:23, where it mentions that the spirits of just men are made perfect by God. Other supportive verses include 1 Corinthians 3:19-15 and Matthew 5:26, among others.
The Assumption is a much more difficult concept to explain and requires a greater quantity of Scripture to back it. I will do so upon request.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
Ok thanks; but Heb12:23 specifically refers to the church of Jesus Christ (the first born) and the general saints (already redeemed in His blood in HEAVEN); and to men made perfect in His blood via belief in Jesus. It represents those whose names are written in the book of kife (i.e. the redeemed) and had nothing to do with 'instalmental purification via punishments' nor does it says anything regarding 'purgatory'. Those redeemed in His blood will go straight to heaven (not purgatory)! as I see.
7olusegun 2 years ago
Actually, Hebrews 12:23 makes no reference to the salvation of these men, because it presupposes they are saved with the word "just" men. Rather, this is talking about sanctification alone, which is what purgatory is concerned with. These men are made pure by God before they can enter heaven, which is purgatory. Stop thinking of purgatory as a literal place; it is an act performed by God.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
The bible said 'the just shall live by faith'. Those who are 'just' before God's eyes are they who are washed (or covered) in His Son's blood. This will only occur after salvation in Jesus. Anyone who is truly saved in Jesus will go to heaven after death, no matter what. The blood of Jesus is a 'blood covenant' that is far more powerful than anyone can imagine and it alone is adequate to save any man from spiritual death. A SAVED man CANNOT miss heaven either temporarily or permanently. The ...
7olusegun 2 years ago 2
Once again, neither purgatory nor Hebrews 12:23 deals with salvation. Salvation is presupposed in both of these. Purgatory has nothing to do with salvation because everyone who goes to purgatory is already saved.
I think you might want to study theology a bit further. Even Protestant scholars agree there is a distinction between Salvation and Sanctification. You seem to be blurring the lines a bit to make your case.
Obviously the men are saved, but they are not perfect until God makes them.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago
Nay; according to the RCC, 'purgatory' is a literal place where the souls of people go to after death to be purified of their 'bad deeds' before going to heaven. Not so? So dont say it aint a 'literal place' as understood by the RCC. Jesus never spoke of purgatory (or any temporary place of punishment and later salvation after death). Anyone who's saved in Jesus goes to heaven straight, not purgatory. I aint talking about sanctification here but purgatory. 'Sactification' is being separate.....
7olusegun 2 years ago