Ford 6.7 Liter Scorpion Diesel V8

[chenz48]

if remember correctly ford has or had a shit load of power strokes sitting in warehouses......

[84ROBKO]

the 6.0 was a really technologically advanced engine for its time but it was pushed way too early to compete with isuzu's duramax. (gm) DODGE is a joke. Cummins makes great engines and thats all dodge has going for them.lol. The 7.3 was one of the best light duty diesels ever produced but absolutely horrible emissions. I will never buy anything but a ford but they need the scorpion to be reliable for a few years before people trust ford again after the 6.0 and 6.4 drama.

[scoopyex]

the 6.0 is a technical flop. That's why Navistar tried to jerk Fords supply of them before the end of their contract was up.

[kawirider206]

@84ROBKO So your saying dodge is a joke and getting people to try and trust them again after 2 engines they produced that failed? What is wrong with dodges? Same axles as fords...Transmission wise, I havent worked on but a few, none of them were stock either, dodge makes the best truck hands down

[123abcpa]

@kawirider206, the dodge has a a&m 30spline front, the ford is a dana 60 35spline. not the same, and the transmissions are not the same. not trying to be rude.

[kawirider206]

@123abcpa I know theyre not identical but the same manufacturer produces them to the same quality specs, and the trans arent the same I know, the ford and dodge trannys are both great trannys

[stefanrhs]

@kawirider206 dodge has a good engine the pickup itself is junk,,, the cummins is the only reason they are bought

[kawirider206]

@stefanrhs What makes people buy fords then? The interior? What about the pickup is junk? Ive owned 6 cummins, Ive had trouble with one. Running a hrvp44 pump, adrenaline w beta tunes, 200 horse injectors, and all through a stock tranny, which failed, I think thats pretty good for a truck close to 500 horses

[stefanrhs]

@kawirider206 Im just saying. Not that many people put a cummins in a chevy and all the old dodges are bought for the engine so they can be put in a ford. Half of the people who own dodges will tell you they bought it for price and the engine.

[kawirider206]

@stefanrhs Dude, how many fummins conversions do you see? About 1 to every 10,000 dodges Id say. most people buy old dodges to pull or just to drive and last forever. Which they do both damn well. Ill buy a Ford diesel when dodge stops using cummins. Which is not likely. And for the price? Dodge Cummins have the highest resale value of any vehicle on the market

[stefanrhs]

@kawirider206 Im not dogging them. They are good engines, but do gas dodges hold retail as much as a ford? I know the diesels do because of the engine. Im not trying to start anything i like them both ah im just saying.

[kawirider206]

@stefanrhs Well, If we go down that road, I prefer chevrolets gas engines. They are just all around good trucks too. I like the cummins and the way the dodge truck is, In my opinion nothing pulls or goes like a dodge (even withh a shitty tranny)And to answer your question, Im not sure if they hold their value like fords or not.

[TaylorEisert]

I have an 07 6.7 cummins it runs very well for what it is but the seats and driver layout sucks so bad it has made me think very hard about getting a ford or chevy i have never owned a dodge before and it has influenced me to never own one again

[scoopyex]

What sucks so bad about it? everything isright within reach and very well with in your line of sight. The controls are all very well placed.. they could of illuminated the cruise control switches for night time cruising, but as an owner of an 07 Ram, I'm very content with the layout of SLT. I've heard other people complain about the seats, but again I'm happy with mine, and I can easilly drive the thing non-stop without any kind of driver fatigue.

[TaylorEisert]

@scoopyex mine is an SLT also and if you can have both your arms on each armrests and still reach the wheel your a bigger man than i have friend that is 300lbs+ and he says its fits fine a i don't like how the seats have no conture the bolsture is so wide it might as well not have it

[scoopyex]

@TaylorEisert To each his own. I've driven my truck up and down the east coast several times in utter comfort without any driving fatigue.

[97dodgecummins]

hi every body, just seen all the comments and didn't want to be left out.

Diesel trucks rock!!!

[97dodgecummins]

it would be neat if dodge, chevrolet and ford put back out the option to get the earlier engins like 7.3 powerstroke. 2nd gen 5.9 12 and 24 valve. or the 6.6 ....

[yamaha4Llfe]

@97dodgecummins

ya the the 7.3 would NEVER pass the new emissions

[MotoX179]

you guys are all like selfish little kids in a candy store, you pick one thing you like one day and you like it. and when someone makes something better you still will only pick the thing you liked before. The new ford engine may be good, it may be bad. none of us have driven one yet so we cant say which 2011 truck will be better. i personally have my money on the dodge because its always been the most reliable and has always had the most stock hp, lb-ft tq ratings. the 6.0 was the worst motor!

[ford4life366]

I disagree my 6.0 has 183000 and ive never touched it, and Dodge has always had one of the lower hp and lb-ft tq ratings, although the cummins is always reliable the truck there in sucks and the 6.7 Cummins ive heard nothing but bad for 2011 I have money on Ford

[jrowe6]

dodge has always been the most realiable? thats quite a bold faced lie.

also, its pretty funny to hear guys say their truck is the best because it has more horsepower. thats retarded. you could say that because you put a supercharger on your truck its instantly the best and most reliable because, WELL DUHH, the only thing that matters in a truck is the horsepower........ridiculous.

[jdavis332]

@MotoX179 i agree with some of what you said the 6.0 engine is shit and the cumming engine is a reliable but it seemes like on the dodges every thing falls apart on the faster i worked at a wrecking yards and we could never keep dodge parts on the shelfs tranny were a big sell for dodge were i worked abd fird and chevy parts just sat there most of the time

[scoopyex]

@jdavis332 50,000 miles on my 07 and it's in showroom condition... no rattles or shakes, nothing falling off, nothing worn out, no time spent at the dealership except for one egr recal. You're dwelling on the past. Dodge has come a long way and they make an exceptionally fine reliable product... 2010 Truck of the Year! I work at a GMC dealership and drive a DODGE. It's just better

[tuctownrida]

ford will be making this motor. not navistar international. so they will be the only company that designs and manufactures their own diesel motors for their trucks. and if you see the new chevy commercials they straight dog on the tundra and titan... its because they know they dont have shit on dodge or ford. they are like the smartest kid in special ed class.

[DieselDemon18]

@tuctownrida

ive seen chevy commercials dog on ford and dodge and i do mean recent commercials

[zr2chevypickupman]

well if you look at it this way, GM sells more 1500s than the f150 as of 09 in sales

[Dodge360Ram]

we are talk about diesal trucks not gas

[zr2chevypickupman]

overall sells are overall sells. it shouldnt matter if its diesel or gas. in the end somebody's making more money

[BudleighSaltertonBoy]

doesnt change the fact that the number 1 selling vehicle in the world is an f-series pickup truck

[Nortzy27]

and the #1 pickup of 2010 is the Ram pickup...

[yamaha4Llfe]

@Nortzy27

and the f150 is the top selling pick up... ;) lol

[Nortzy27]

@BudleighSaltertonBoy did you see me say i disagree, or no your retarded it's dodge? No... i said and the #1 of 2010 is dodge... fuckin read.... and besides my opinion id never trust a ford :)

[scoopyex]

@BudleighSaltertonBoy and that fact is only driven by the fact that they're put in the hands of the commercial end of the deal. GM outsells Ford by a longshot.

[scoopyex]

@BudleighSaltertonBoy and that fact is only driven by the fact that they're put in the hands of the commercial end of the deal. GM outsells Ford by a longshot.

[farmerman98]

lol

[brunospainpower]

6.6 duramax & 6.7 cummins , YOU ARE FIRED !! 6.7 powerstroke WINS !!

[thecumminsman1]

ya we will see ha

[chanweston3]

My 6.0 will make any duramax look like a horse carriage

[Dodge360Ram]

5.9 cummins is still going to be the best diesel

[brsox4928]

not going to out tow ford tho

[thecumminsman1]

ya it will

[Dodge360Ram]

to bad they always do

[ndubb1]

i dont see how, with the new numbers it should be crazy better

[awhoop09]

to bad there going to stop makin em in 2010

[scottsam625]

plus its not the manufacturer that makes the power with an engine its the builder. let me know when your 6.0 blows a head gasket like they all do ill come tow you home with my duramax and a chain!

[brsox4928]

my old ford is 20 years old and hasn't blown a head gasket and it pulls race trailers on a pretty regular basis

[scottsam625]

your old ford doesnt have a 6.0 powerstroke either. if your going to bash what i say read what i wrote first.

[brsox4928]

the don't all blow head gaskets, the issues were mainly in the 03 and some of 04

just look at the towing specs, ford is more in 3 of 4 categories

[erik42355]

the 6.0s are just fine, ive never had a problem out of mine... i like the 6.4s as well... im not a fan of the 7.3 tho.. the power just isnt there... ive never been outran with my stock 04 6.0

[brsox4928]

i have a 6.0 with 40 thousand miles on it and have had no problems at all with it, even if it does break which i dont anticipate its under warranty and gets fixed.

[BigCAPO68]

k well idk what youve been seeing mike but every duramax ive seen has gotten its ass handed to it. 6.0 yea there not the best, 7.3 will tear up a duramax, along with the 6.4

[scottsam625]

Your so funny. My ex girlfriends brother was in diesel power with his 02' 7.3 and won the 2007 quick diesel nationals. when he got home i raced him in my 01' duramax same exact engine mods as his truck and fuel only......... he's still crying. f a powerstroke.

[brsox4928]

i dont care about racing, i tow i do it everyday and fords out two duramaxes

[scottsam625]

sure.......

[supersnot4]

try a stock 7.3 vs a stock duramax. different engines take upgrades differently, and once you upgrade it's no longer a ford or a chevy, depending on how drastic the upgrades are.

[tuctownrida]

ridiculous how there are people actually arguing over this. every manufacturer makes great and terrible vehicles. in fords they had a bad run with navistar international, hence why they got out of their contract and are working on the scorpion motor. yes the 6.0 was very problematic. i pull 18000lbs behind my f-350 through the white mountains and ill pass a duramax that is struggling with 2/3 the load behind it. you have the net at your fingertips. do some research.

[mike12392]

yea right duramax r way better engines then powerstroke cummins is really good but powerstrokes r shit im a diesel mechanic i know what im talking about so dont brag when you have the shittyest diesel from them all duramax would own powerstrokes and you know it ur not kidding anyone

[brsox4928]

the big bad duramax gets out pulled by powerstrokes on a daily basis

[mike12392]

uhh no they dont

[brsox4928]

in 3 of 4 classes ford outpulls gmc and chevy what numbers are you looking at

[mike12392]

well first off idk wat ur lookin at cuase duramax has more hp then ford and the chevys r lighter so their faster and every video i whatch ford looses to duramax like come on you know it man 6.4l psd is competition against the duramax but the 7.3 and 6.0s do stand a chance

[brsox4928]

the 7.3 is one of the best motors ever made my old 7.3 that is 20 years old is still being used today to two race car trailers, and it runs great

i'm looking at the towing specs mike, i don't care which truck wins in a race i want the one that can tow more, the one that wins in a race has nothing to do with which one can tow more

[MDizzel16]

@brsox4928 I agree, to many people are like oh man I can run a ridiculously fast quarter mile with my diesel....its like who gives a fuck, that's what having a fast car is for. I'm sticking to my good old bulletproof 7.3L

[supersnot4]

hp doesn't have much of a difference on diesels. what people buy diesels for are their torque, for their pulling. if you want to race, buy a mustang or a camero. your lighter duramax will win in a race, but a real truck can pull the other one up a mountain. in that case, go by a ford.

[erik42355]

your an idiot... diesel mech. or not.

[erik42355]

yea mike ... 10 hp 10 tq too... depending on what you look it up on... big fn deal

[69frank06]

u mean 390 to 400 and 720 ft of torqe

[MrStreck]

hey xmodrock you mean, 370 to 400 hp and 700 to 750 lb-ft of tourque

[xmodrock]

that thing has 500HP and 700 foot pounds of tourque.. only downside is that its quiet

[69frank06]

wat ever arispe04 u dip shit why dont u go and suck ur dads dick pussy bitch

[montanahick91]

arispe04 is a pussy

[arispe04]

EVEN with GM being in the shitter, its coming out with a new diesel, called the DURAMAX LML.. look it up.. we are gonna have 390 hp with 700 ft lbs.. we dont need twin turbos like this pos scorpion eng,just to keep up..the scorpion has 720 ft lbs.. being that chevy is lighter, make that 700 to over 720 at the light. GM still keept the 6.6L..ford had to have two turbos to have that hp GM didnt..see ford is a pussy truck..

[TheBoss1015]

I sure love my Chevy! but my next truck will be a Ford cause it pisses me off that GM and Chrysler had to pretty much file bank ruptcy and Ford has stood strong through these hard times so I'll soon be trading in my truck to go to a company that seems to be doing something right.

[arispe04]

well u own a chevy so i cant try to knock some sense in u...like i have been with the rest of these idiots..and about u gettin a ford, worst mistake u goona make ever,so what if they are still in the game they own themeselves, GM own every vehicle on the road, the nation is in shit not just GM,thats why gm is in the shitter now..fords break, stick with quality,not just cause ford is doing alright,just cause they are broke dont mean the quality is.. dont make a stupid mistake...

[arispe04]

all yall ford guys are a joke...

[arispe04]

ALL FORDS SUCK, THEY ARE TOO PROBLEMATIC, THEY BREAK TO DAMN EASY, u can never go wong with a chevy....DURAMAX never breaks, they come stock with more horsepower,more torque,more payload, everything, all ford has thats better is maybe the interior, looks like a woman should be drivin it to load up flowerpots and birdhouses..hahah FORD is a FUCKEN JOKE to duramax and cummins, its a disgrace to them actually,toyota would of had a better diesel eng if decided to make em..dodged a bullet there FORD

[brsox4928]

actually fords can pull and haul more

[arispe04]

no they cant, u have to special order a 4.10 axel ratio so say that ford can pull more..chevy has more payload, and a better trans to handle that load, and with touch down touch up shiftin, u handle the load better, and with more hp and torque, chevy come out on top, i spent alot of money on my duramax, i wouldnt of gotten it if it wernt the best,, all fords do is break, im not just sayin that..go check with mechanics and see whats up..no way ford can pull or haul more.. no way

[brsox4928]

i guess we are looking at different specs then because ford can out pull and haul other trucks. Chevy is in the shop as much as ford is. My 250 has never had to be worked on in the 5 yrs i've had it

[arispe04]

naww my duramax hasnt even seen the shop other than tires// and no it cant, chevy has more payload capacity, not by much but it has more..it has more hp and torque, all that combined with a load or trailer chevy is gonna come out on top, i have done all the research, i wouldnt of spent the money i did on my 08 duramax LMM if i new ford was better..i even went to the extent callin about 50 ASE mechanics to get their opinion, they told me not to get a ford..i knew that but i wanted a legit opinon

[brsox4928]

opinions of mechanics mean nothing, i could call 50 guys that work for chevy and i'm sure they would all say ford sucks.  I'll take ford with class leading towing, i tow skid steers, mini excavators, big dump trailers, etc, i need the towing. I'd like to see chevy's response to this new diesel engine

[arispe04]

yeah its response is the new LML with 390 hp, 700 ft lbs GOOGLE IT RIGHT NOW.. ford has 720 ft lbs, with the same 390hp.. with ford being heavy with a crap trans, the allison is meant for strain and abuse,the same trans in fire trucs,military eqip. and all dozers and heavy eqip, so that 20 extra ft lbs isnt goona play a factor on whos has more..duramax will tow more and handle it better, ford has to use twin turbos to get 390hp,duramax kept the 6.6L with single turbo,goes to show GM is the king

[brsox4928]

actually the scorpion is just going to have 1 turbo from what i've read, and its not a response to duramax at all, ford cut its ties with navistar so they have to come out with their own engine, and theres no way a duramax outtows a powerstroke

[arispe04]

well what the fuck is it..one or two, a real cut down of the eng shows 2 turbos, google the eng..im stickin with the fact that its gonna have 2 turbos,im not gonna take ur word. the duramax kept the same layout,like i said before..it took ford alot of years to come up with this,and with GM in the crapper, the response to it is gonna be better,damn bro accept the fact that duramax is better..

[The4430guy]

this one will probably be a pos like the 6.0

[Dizzle2289]

They just need to bring the 7.3 powerstroke back!!

[jim73ranger]

I work up here on the north slope oilfields of Alaska and its quite clear that powerstrokes are the the diesels to beat. The 6.0 have their issues but they dont mind the cold; the dodges dont like it and the trannies on the chevies dont like the cold either. If the truck is sitting leave it on high idle and run it in 2nd once in a while to keep it from carboning up and its all good.

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

i love the sound of a powerstroke when its cold.

[arispe04]

i live in west texas and work in the oilfield, where trucks are put to work, all we see is duramax and cummins in the field, they can handle the work, ford cant

[bigdipper000]

if u can tell me one time besides 1998 chevy has had a best selling diesel truck i will buy a chevy....... there hasnt been i looked it up. cummins motors will blow a dmax away dmax is built for speed hence SHORT BORE ford is a mid bore while cummins is a long bore.... Chevy is faster not stronger... and the reason i say not 1998 is because for didn't produce a truck for that year they were in transition.

[masonsmith60]

thats bullshit....... i work in the oil field in canada and duramax dont hold up worth shit..... and here weather conditions are a bit worse than in texas.... and for holds up...prolly the best outa the three

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

the only work they see is getting you to work and back home and when their not doing that they are back and forth to the shop.

[arispe04]

hahaha u serious... ill outpull u and beat u at any light... and u talking about the shop.. all fords are problematic... check with ur local ASE certified mechanics.. well i guess they like fords... it gives them business

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

You act like you know it all, obviously you dont cause my psd is anything but problematic. and the ASE mechanics might like fords cause they know their the best and dont have to work on them. dude get over it everyone comes to this page a sees your bs comments and takes you as a joke. If you want to act like your the shit i would love to she how shitty you feel when your breathing the smoke i would leave you in at the light.

[arispe04]

man whatever dude, its problematic like a mother fucker..if it hasnt fucked up i will.. like the rest of em.. and dont hate on me man..hate the fact that 'ford sucks', u say my comments are bs and a joke, ur wrong there boy...its the truth, my silverado lmm would kill ur powerstroke..yall ford guys just dont get it..i think its pretty funny actually,,i bought some L.E.D taillights they are bad ass..thought i would give the powerstroke eng. something to look at when i take off. urwelcome

[arispe04]

so u think ur powerstroke can handle my duramax...u got some balls sayin that.. ur gonna be just like every ford i beat at the light sayin" well i was distracted" "i wasnt ready" "you took off before me" every time i beat yall yall say that, u cant keep up with a real truck, and yall shouldnt take me as a joke, im tryin to help yall out here,lettin yall know how it is,.the joke is saying a ford can beat a chevy..now thats a joke brotha..the best joke in decades

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arispe04]

yeah ur right...ford fails...

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

you fail!! the 7.3 had only 10 ft lbs less than the duramax and you talk crap but when the scorpion has 10 more you still say it dont matter. YOU FAIL!!

[arispe04]

the 7.3 weighed 6 tons..that front end wasnt for shit..and even if this scorpion had 20 ft lbs more the duramax handlin and and trans would knock this wanna be eng out the of the towing a race compitition..

[brsox4928]

what are you reading, fords tow more than any other truck out there, and obviously much of america disagrees with you because the f series is the number 1 selling truck in america

2 years is a lot? i'm sure it took duramax just as long to come up with their current engine

[arispe04]

naw thats just want people tell u..i promise u that if we were at a hill with a duramax2500 and a f-250 with a trailer with the same weight, that allison trans teamed up with the duramax eng with more hp and torque than the f-250, that dmax is gonna make it to the top.better faster,and handlin it better, now dont get me wrong ford is tough but not as tough as chevy,alot of people buy em cause aint alot of folks haulin,other than small thing a car can handle..FORD is good,but not as good as dmax

[brsox4928]

big deal, i drive a truck for work, i need it to pull equipment, trailers, material and ford can do more therefore it is a better truck and the duramax should beat a ford in a race, its a bigger engine if it can't then that wouldn't be too good but for work purposes ford is the best

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

forget race..iv seen the torqshift hold up more than the allison because the allison never can show what the dmax can pull because the front end on chevys is crap the tie rods brake right off the line most the time.

[arispe04]

well i have seen the allison hold up more,.,,we can go back and fourth all day here.. u say a ford is better than a duramax,and i say a duramax is better than a ford..i have seen to many times a duramax being a duramax and holdin on to the title of best diesel when ford trys to go up against it, when u have 78 year old men that worked in the oilfield retired at 65 sayin dont get a ford,and when i have the proof(specs) to back that up, aint no way ever i gonna believe ford is better that chevy!!

[brsox4928]

obviously dmax is not better bcause the f series outsells any other truck

[arispe04]

yeah in gas F-150..cause they are cheap..chevy is quality and quality cost money..u pay more for the best..no way they sell more diesels, duramax is more of a work truck ford will ever be

[supersnot4]

f-150 is actually more expensive than the chevy. one way to see which is a better truck is to look at the weight specs. fords are always the heaviest, which means they put more metal into them, which means more quality and longer lasting.chevy is always the lightest because they use so much plastic and aluminum.

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

im surprised cause back in their day the dmax was nothing compared to the psd. and when us say that the f series trucks have been top selling trucks only because the f150 is gas your crazy the prices on the 150's is just as much as the 250's and its not like chevy dont have the gas 1500 or z71's so obviously its an opinion thing but u cant change the fact that ford sells more.

[arispe04]

and really whoever sells more doesnt even matter, what was i thinkin even arguin that..so what if they sell more,, half the world can have a ford, and chevy will still have a better truck, i can go back and fourth with u on this all day...u got specs, and i got specs, u got ur opinion and i got mine..aint no one ever gonna convince me that ford is a better truck, no dont give a shit how many fords they sell, they can sell 6 billion, and chevy will still be better

[brsox4928]

if chevy was a better truck it would be selling more than ford but it hasnt for 32 years

[PoWeRstrokeBoii]

so if chevys better why dont they sell more?

[a5kylar]

@PoWeRstrokeBoii chevys fucking suck the new diesel system for fords diesel engines is the future they run urea in the diesel feul making the truck not only run better but get better mpg's

[stefanrhs]

@a5kylar dude im a ford guy but if your gunna dog chevys get your facts straight. Urea in the diesel? Really? When they come out with it let me know. Last i checked it got injected into the PF when the truck is at idle because it is not burning hot enough to burn the particles.

[TheZman77]

@PoWeRstrokeBoii because they are not better DUH!!

[jimdawg185]

Its not that the Allison is a bad tranny, it just has a lot of trouble behind modded motors. The 5r110 has been much more adaptable for performance. To bad the 6.0 was a big flop, otherwise Ford would have taken

the performance crown from Dodge and the mighty Cummins. Talk about trans problems...... The 6.4 seems to have the nuts, but the breaking point has yet to be found. I am excited about the scorpion, I think it will be the LS of the diesel world. And if the 6r is as good as the 5 :)

[DieselDemon18]

a few mods fix that up but i agree the ifs is crappy

[arispe04]

yall want a cheap truck to do light work get a gas yall, its cheaper than chevy, if yall want to get to work get a duramax, im tired of readin yalls comments talkin about how yall think ford is best, i honestly cant believe yall think that, look up duramax and move ur key board out the way because ur jaw is gonna drop when u see power, and the way a truck really is, its alright its not ur fault for bein uninformed about the truth, yall just got left beind,no run along children look up duramax

[arispe04]

Ford is takin advantage of GM takin a timeout..they got all happy and said"FINALLY WE HAVE A CHANCE HAVING A MORE POWERFUL ENGINE" , SOAK THIS MOMENT UP, when the whole money issue is figured out,GM aint worried about it, they see ford as competiton that can be beat easy, and will have something that will be more powerful, MY silverado LMM will still beat this engine, start talkin ur shit ford guys, CHEVY REIGNS, DURAMAX KING OF ALL DIESELS..LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT

[bigdipper000]

sounds like a 7.3

[mikespeed100]

Well, I have said for a while now that Ford needs to forget about International and build their own diesel. They do a good job on everything else, so why not. Now this time it will be the Ford reputation on the line, and it should be a much better engine. I think it sucks to have your rep resting on what someone else builds. I think Dodge should trash the Cummins also and start building their own. As for chevy, I don't care what they do or don't do.

[arispe04]

goes to show how stupid u are sayin u dont care what chevy does or doesnt do.. what do u drive a prius u faggot..get ur shit straight, at least have a legit opinion, duramax and cummins are on top, and powerstroke sucks,by the way u talk i know u dont even drive a diesel, not even the worst diesel out there a "powerstroke" so shut the fuck up.. go leave ur gay ass opinions somewhere else..

[robotrash41]

that soundbite likely isn't from that engine. and if it is you know how crappy mics are. that engine should be very quiet

[SmartyMP8Cummins]

just cuz they sell more dont mean shit...ha all u have to get is a 6-speed 6.7 liter cummins and it well drag anything better then a powerstroke...they needed two turbo's to keep up with the big boys imagine if we had two stock dumb ass...hahaha

[arispe04]

yeah ur right, ford is trying to do something drastic to try to move up in the game, i have an 08 chevy duramax lmm,i love this machine, u have a cummins which i also a good engine, i aint hatin,..but ford aint ever gonna be on top,,EVER

[brsox4928]

then explain when the f 150 was the number 1 selling truck in america for 31 years

[bigdipper000]

who sells the most heavy duty trucks?? FORD period

[arispe04]

well there guy, goes to show you how many people are uninformed about trucks, i aint here to talk shit, ford is a good truck but it aint the best, i have looked up the specs on each truck for a while now, and diesel machanics can back me up here in west texas where trucks are put to work. u can talk all the shit u want, but i have specs to back me up and ASE certified diesel machanics word as well..like i said ford is alright not the best

[bigdipper000]

o yea what specs... the specs that show the cummins will blow up a stock dodge tranny? The specs that show Chevy has the weakest suspension? Or is it the facts that Ford is the highest rated most bought truck in America. Majority rules

[arispe04]

who cares about if its the best truck bought, i bet all what u said is just what u think or what people think, suspension is what ur talkin about come on there guy,put up a better arugument.. im talking about horsepower and torque, and towing, chevy comes out on top, everytime,,sorry to break ur heart, truth hurts

[bigdipper000]

uh to bad the new ford has more power then the duramax... FACT and the cummins has more power than ford... doesn't help when the suspension can handle my trailer does there bud... ford=best selling and highest rated truck of all time.. truth hurts

[arispe04]

i did my research on this engine, its a good layout and has power,its gonna be in 2011,GM is goin through shit right now, it wont be long till they come out with something that will top ford, chevy has always been on top,its about money not the quality of the engine,duramax is king of all diesels,gm would of came out with and engine before ford but GM is n the shitter,that being said ford took advantange of this and came out the the scorpion.Ford soak this time up, IT wont last long,,guranteed

[arispe04]

hahahaha wait wait wait,,, did u just say that powerstroke has more horspower than duramax...hahahahah ur a dipshit really...chevy lmm 2500 hd comes stock with 365 hp,660 lbs torque, Ford f-250 hd come with 350 hp, 650 lbs torque. who had more power, by 10 hp or 1 hp, duramax beats ur powerstroke any fucken day of the week,, haha even on sunday

[arispe04]

yeah maybe they are the most bought truck, GASOLINE TRUCKS,u know load up flowerpots,and birdhouses, DIESEL trucks DURAMAX is the best, the best cost money they are expensive more than ford and dodge,now u know why ford sells more, alot of people work inside nowadays,i work in the oilfield haulin soap trailers and air units, and pipe trailers,the shiftin the power ect.. chevy is best, there is no way ford will ever be on top..sorry bud

[arispe04]

SmartyMP8Cummins is right..finally someone who isnt stupid..yall ford queers do need twin turbo to keep up, i said KEEP UP,yall still cant beat a duramax or a cummins, not gonna happen, sayin that is like saying "u found a bull on a tick", hey smartyMP8cummins u think these queers will ever see the light besides our tail lights?.....

[SmartyMP8Cummins]

thankx for backing me up these idiots dont know shit ford is a pos..i hate saying the name and i live in west texas also man

[LinuxGalore]

Not saying the design is bad but in Europe a noisy diesel is not a seller, yes Americans like their diesels noisy (noise also means wasted energy) but at the same time the design makes the market for this product a lot smaller and not conducive to fords recovery.

[Xx69roadrunnerxX]

noise hardly means wasted engery. Not on a scale that matters. Thats funny.

[e30m3izzle]

the specs for the motor are on lemonparty(dot)org

[Lambo6fo]

Why can't the americans make a quiet diesel?

[69chevelle9]

we love em loud baby!

loud and proud!

the cummins inline 6 is about the same, exept fords diesels are better

[SmartyMP8Cummins]

ha ford diesels are better funniest shit ive ever heard.cummins, duramax, the powerchock.ford dont stand a chance.

[SmartyMP8Cummins]

just because they sell more dont mean there better....and dont even go there saying they can out perform dodge and chevy..especially with their better engines....and i shure in the hell know a pos powerchoke aint better then a cummins...all the ford can do is out perform on interior....and your ass dont know shit u probably tell every guy this...that u think might know shit but we all know the duramax and cummmins engine is way far better then your powerstroke....

[SmartyMP8Cummins]

because first of all i know the powerstroke never compares to the d=max and cummins the only good engine they have is the 6.4...thats about it..

[SmartyMP8Cummins]

im ignorant your the ignorant one here..u start shit on th computer..and i know ull read this...and i never said it had twins...actualy it's two turbo's and they call it the twin turbo on the ford website but sense you know more than ford and built their engines u can say whatever...but it is twins..and am i a poser no...and ur the one who bitches.and actually the duramax has the better performance for the llm...this is there year not ford's 6.4...and powerstrokes are shitty just like u

[arispe04]

hey check out all my comments i have written these idiots,and see how they replied its funny.... arispe04

[shagboy1993]

the 7.3 wasnt a good engine? the 6.4 is kinda embarrassing and the 6.0 is to there are some roomers where they have dropped there scorpion idea and taken cummins in like 2011

[bigdipper000]

a 6.4 cummins?? since when?  NEVER

[arispe04]

hey yeah man u couldnt be anymore right..im trying be nice and knock some sense in these idiots that acutally think..get this........"that ford is better than duramax and cummins" how can they be so stupid. i have a 08 silverado lmm,z71, 4x4,LTZ ..cummins is something i take serious at the light, i actually have a chance at losing at that point n time,its always a good race.props to u and ur cummins..but for the rest of these cowards,there lost man..lost in the smoke of the duramax and cummins..

[DeereGuy15]

The only reason your chevy is fast is because the truck itself is lighter than ford or dodge. I would choose the ford or dodge just because their built to put up with the abuse a 3/4 and 1 ton truck takes on a daily basis. A duramax is just something to look cool in.

[arispe04]

well maybe,...but it does have more payload capacity than ford and dodge,the only thing that ford comes optional is with a 4.10 axel ratio..OPTIONAL..and duramax is made for abuse, i work in the oilfield in west texas,and all we see is duramax,fords break to easy,dodge is something that can keep up a steady work rate along with chevy, and when u have something to look cool in and is a solid work horse..u have a combo that cant be beat..chevy is always gonna be on top of the game

[Rockrshr]

So true, GM trucks are about - 1000 lbs less, have car tires that are awesome off-road, and of course that wonderful IFS - now that's "HD", next thing you'll hear from these car owners is "it rides so smooth." They squirt tang when off-road or carrying ANYTHING. Payload SUCKS. So if drag racing a truck is your thing buy a GM. If you plan on doing any work - buy Ford of Dodge. Bad news for the Dmax "guy", GM trucks have the more registered girl owners than Dodge and Ford combined.

[Xx69roadrunnerxX]

Dont like it, dont buy it, dont bitch about it!!!

[shagboy1993]

the 7.3L that ford put out was realy not that loud with 4 inch pipes

[MoparHP]

The louder the better!!!!

[Xx69roadrunnerxX]

I know NVH is a big deal to manufacturers, but I love the sounds of a diesel engine. The loud the better in my opinion!! If you dont like the sound of diesel clatter, then buy a gas engined vehicle.

[Xx69roadrunnerxX]

This is still very cool technology though!

[DetroitWonk]

That is one seriously quiet diesel engine once the secondary and tertiary injections occur.