What you''re also seeing in this film is prohibition at it's finest. Make something illegal so that a black market for it opens up that drives the product up by 400 percent from it's production cost forcing those who desire the product to commit intrusive and violent crimes to obtain it. Prohibition turns a nonviolent past time into a crime.
Keep in mind that what is shown in this film is only the ACUTE withdrawal from opiates. Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS) can last months or years while your brain is rebooting it's mainframe trying to find the original program for dopamine processing. Some rehabilitation cultures theorize that so-called "Hot shot" deaths in "recovered" addicts isn't an occupational hazard of the addict using again but the suicide of someone tired of feeling bad because their brain hasn't healed yet.
i smoke every single day...although its gone from ten blizzes a day when i was younger and now taking a few puffs at night after work...i was addicted to opiates and the mj was the only thing that helped me through withdrawal.
@Xquisit19 Being natural has nothing to do with safety. Cyanide is natural, care for a bite? It takes longer than harder drugs, but pot turns people into losers.
@adiostraitorobama You need to associate negative things with using drugs, thats one of the ONLY ways to break psychological addiction. If you don't punish yourself for being addicted, how are you ever going to stop?? Its called negative reinforcement, and let me tell you, I quit because I was sick of withdrawing all the time. Half of people at NA will tell you the same thing.
@bassetter1 You need to associate negative things with using drugs, thats one of the ONLY ways to break psychological addiction. If you don't punish yourself for being addicted, how are you ever going to stop?? Its called negative reinforcement, and let me tell you, I quit because I was sick of withdrawing all the time. Half of people at NA will tell you the same thing.
@Stillwater900 I will give you credit for that ,but my main thought on opiate addiction is that there is an underlying depression of sorts .And you just cant beat opiates on anti-depressive effect. I am very happy that you have found another way in life . Free hugs from Denmark . What the world needs now is love .
The restless legs/feet and hands are hell. Most of the WD's are tollerable, but the insomnia last for weeks, it always drove me back to using. I couln't las 8 hours without opiates.
I've been there and done done but frankly speaking,i got off of it without any help from anything (Methadone) and without help from any body(rehab). It's my fighting spirit and will that help me to stay clean....for 21 years.
From personal experience I would say in my situation weed was a gateway drug. Though the drug isn't addictive - the experience of being brazed was. My tolerance for weed grew til a point I could of easily smoked crap loads and just get a light effect from it. From there I realised to get the same high - I must need to move onto more harsher drugs.
Luckily, I stopped once I realised that and have been happily been weedfree for almost 5 years now. Even now I do miss being brazed.
Not in my experience - it wasn't the same effect I got when I first tried the stuff. I tried a tolerance break from weed but it wasn't the same - yeah the effect was enhanced abit but the effect wasn't the same as before.
@NeoFalcon69 Pot is deffinitely a gateway drug. Its BIZARRE to me why people think it isn't. The only people that do say that are marijuana addicts acting out their perverse love for the drug. Its addictive too, WITHOUT A DOUBT
@NeoFalcon69 Its DEFFINITELY addictive for some people. This myth is perpetrated by the people who it isn't addictive for, they make the mistake of thinking everyone else's brain works like theirs does
@NeoFalcon69 My theory is that the only people who think pot isn't a gateway drug are addicted to it and defending the drug they love, and they're almost ALL young, meaning that they just haven't been around long enough to realize that the gateway theory is valid. Don't be naive poeple.
If pot is a gateway drug so is alcohol, tobacco, any herbal supplement that changes your mood, sugar etc. etc.
The gateway is the brain of the individual. One person can break their arm take the Percocet prescribed, heal and never think about an opiate again while another will start hitting up emergency departments and clinics looking for more of the drug when they have never used ANY drug in their life.
If you give a drug to a struggling man he'll reach for that lifeline.
this isnt a journey man doc it wasmade mid 90s by a Portuguese Journalist about a friend of his, he said he was going off heroin cold turkey and the friend said he would help him and after would give him job and would keep doctor all times present outside the apart, u might be wondering why he didnt took methadone or subuxone or morphine right? because they where illegal in 90s, u could get easy, cheaper heroin morphine sulfate for nothing back then coke aswell, there where alot port doc about H
weed made me seek out harder drugs kinda.. because i got bored of weed and looked for a similar more potent hi which was opiates.. so weed is kinda a gateway drug for some ppl.
@prowla33 Exactly, thats how it works. Plus, you're already associating with people who smoke pot, chances are one of them uses harder drugs. "I'm already comfortable with smoking pot, and its not as much fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?"
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@ontariobuds So you admit that weed follows tobacco? There you go, gateway drug! Using any substance opens the door. Marijuana is undoubtedly a gateway drug, its BIZARRE to me how people can say it isn't. Its also addictive. Its more harmful than people realize, it takes longer than harder drugs, but it turns you into a loser.
@Stillwater900 I was just saying t hat if they want to use the gateway theory then they can't use marijuana as the prime example EVERY time it gets brought up.It was years before I even knew what weed was.And before I smoked pot, I smoked cigarettes. When I was young at family parties I would ask for coffee, there is another stimulant. For me (if you believe in the theory) it goes coffee cigs pot.
I don't believe in gateway, you just try as you see fit. millions of ppl don't go to H after pot.
@ontariobuds Yeah you're right, they go to cocaine or X or vicodin or ritalin or oxy, which are really not much different than heroin for all intents and purposes. And why can't they use pot as the prime example of gateway drug? You don't encourage people to start smoking pot do you?
@Stillwater900 yes I do. Smoking cannabis is at most, a mild health risk, a VERY MILD health risk.
I believe it might of been Health Canada, whoever it was they came to the conclusion that smoking cannabis, one of the biggest risks is bronchitis. Tobacco causes cancer, cannabis cures cancer. I will try and dig up the study but there are any laguardia report, and many many others. cannabis isn't bad for you. smoking isn't the only way, the other ways are even healthier! edibles, vapor etc.
@ontariobuds You forgot the MENTAL health risk, it turns you into a loser, very slowly so you don't even notice. People change from long term pot smoking.. I know you're going to protest that, because addicts develop a perverse romance with whatever drug they use, and they'll defend it to the death. Turning into a loser is like the frog in the pot of water, you turn the heat up a degree at a time, and he boils to death without ever noticing.
@Stillwater900 well I never say that cannabis isn't mentally addicting. Cocaine is mostly psychologically addicting, not physical, like heroin. So yes, smoking cannabis is psychologically addicting.could you explain why you think smoking cannabis turns people into losers.? I am just curious because I don't believe it. If you mean it makes you lazy then t hat is untrue, lazy people are lazy no matter what. it's their personality. I work mon-fri 9-5 and don't sit around all day. explain please
@ontariobuds My fathers hippie friends for instance, the ones that have been smoking for 30-40 years, are in arrested development. They never progress, they have no money, no career, no wife, no social standing, shitty house, etc. The ones that stopped decades ago actually do have some of those things. Even some of my friends, after 10 years of smoking are not the same, they've lost their spark, and they don't even realize it
@Stillwater900 all that may be true, but that doesn't mean it happens to everybody. Just becasue your fathers friends are losers doesn't mean it was due to cannabis smoking. I have no changed, I still do my daily life chores. Also, I believe the key to smokign cannabis is not to do it daily, do it on weekends.
it's better that way. smoking everyday is not the best idea, plus smoking anything is bad for your lungs.
@Stillwater900 all that may be true, but that doesn't mean it happens to everybody. Just becasue your fathers friends are losers doesn't mean it was due to cannabis smoking. I have no changed, I still do my daily life chores. Also, I believe the key to smokign cannabis is not to do it daily, do it on weekends.
it's better that way. smoking everyday is not the best idea, plus smoking anything is bad for your lungs.
@ontariobuds You just think that cocaine is the most psychologically addictive because that was your drug of choice, and you want it to seem like you're real tough and hard. Theres no evidence for it, because drugs effect people totally different, for some it IS the most addictive, for others heroin is, for others alcohol, and so on. Of course you don't want to believe pot turns people into losers, because you smoke it haha!
Weed is called a gateway drug just to scare people into not taking it. "If I have one puff of that weed I'm going to start having cravings for meth or even heroin" It's a scare tactic.
@SydBarrett7 Don't be silly, thats not how it works. Its like this: "I'm comfortable with marijuana, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like? Some of my pot buddies use it, so it wouldn't be hard to get" You'll understand when you're older.
In my opinion, for whatever it's worth, gateway drugs are incidental. You don't start using hard drugs because you smoked weed, you start using them FOR THE SAME REASONS AS you smoked weed. It's not a causal relationship. That's why some people move on to harder drugs, and others never do. But this is just my theory.
I see many writing about gateway drugs. Atleast where I live, most ppl have smoked weed. Many also try speed, ecstacy etc. But few wants to try heroin. They are scared of it and knows how serious the addiction is.
9:12 until the rest of this episode... yeah that's pretty much the worst part of it. Man that feeling sucks, it F'ing SUCKS! But the best feeling is having 4 months completely clean, cold turkey. I did it!!!! I feel so good.
im a recovering heroin addict, and i recommend going to a methadone program for anyone still out there sick and suffering. it saved my life and is the only way i can live without the constant craving and obsessions. anyone who has never done opiates couldnt possibly understand withdrawal. when u finally do get some sleep, you dream of using. heroin and the needle are SATAN, thats the only reason something could be so evil. may God bless all of you out there like me. peace...
@darlingnikki8807 Please don't recommend that SHIT methadone to people. MAYBE Suboxone, but methadone is a full agonist. Big Pharma just wants to be your new drug dealer
@Stillwater900 i have since detoxed from it and no longer believe the LIE that is methadone! suboxone is the way to go most definitely. no way would i ever recommend it to anyone. ever.
@darlingnikki8807 I knew a girl that KILLED HERSELF in the middle of a methadone detox. Another guy had a full blown manic episode and developed bipolar disorder (?!). Big Pharma summoned methadone into being, a full on agonist with the worst withdrawal symptoms of any drug nearly and impossible to get off, because it wants to be your new drug dealer for the rest of your life.
@darlingnikki8807 I knew a girl that KILLED HERSELF in the middle of a methadone detox. Another guy had a full blown manic episode and developed bipolar disorder (?!). Big Pharma summoned methadone into being, a full on agonist with the worst withdrawal symptoms of any drug nearly and impossible to get off, because it wants to be your new drug dealer for the rest of your life, and it looks like the jesus-heads got to you as well.
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@robertschelly Totally agree Bro., we, or I was, a Self-absorbed fuck, but you never know what kind of life lead them there. Most junkies know they are a piece of shit, but getting that monkey off your back, until you have experienced it for 7 straight days, is so hard. It is a very selfish lifestyle!
and this is why i quit as well. just woke up one day and GOT SICK OF HUSTLING FOR CASH 24/7.the constant panic, fear, and desperation..plus the humiliation of running out of all but the most embarrassing funding options..i'm amazed that this kid was able to smoke for 10 years without getting into spikes. i lasted about 2 years on sniffing and smoking before i hit the IV to make my cash last longer
did the same thing two months ago. so disturbing how cigarettes taste while detoxing - bad. they more than anything triggered my gag reflex without fail but i had to smoke SOMETHING
I am in the midst of getting clean from pain killers. But I'm still amazed at what a simple chemical can do to ones body. It wreaks such havoc on the mind it amazes me.
weed is pathetic just as any other drug but ya weed is safer,but with the wrong people 9/10 times leads to coke,and then some! if you know what I mean.
to ease your withdrawal symptoms, if you dont wanna take any other drugs (suboxone/methadone/valium) SMOKE SOME WEED. If it was legal I bet its what doctors would prescribe for withdrawal from opiates.
@TickleMehNancy u fuckin retard u said WEED is worse than heroin.. PLEASE tell me where you heard that bullshit. n all i do is smoke nugz FUCK boy go post ur bullshit somewhere else
@xanaxpillz Weed is worse than heroin because all the people who smoke weed are retarded ass holes. I emphasize the word retarded. Heroin just makes you addicted but doesn't make you retarded.
@TickleMehNancy Thats true, theres no organ damage with Heroin or any opiate, they're non-toxic. Pot turns you in a total loser if you smoke it long enough
Being an Ex- heroin addict, this is not something i would want to watch 2 hours of, or however long it is....The week after i went cold turkey was the worst ever. words cant even describe it. Utter Mental Agony is a start though.... Here i am 2 years later. Waiting to be admitted to a methadone detox facility... hopefully tomorrow. Never again will i quit cold turkey....
@Manxam1234 im on meathadone as well been on it for about a year i am scared shitliss about cumin of it i have been told its worst then a cold turkey plz let me know how you got on i would really appriciate it thanks.
@samfitzy8 well. aside from digging shit out of my ass with my fingers, it wasnt all that terribly bad... but the constipation problem was starting to get to me. thats why i quit. Cold turkey, Just have a really positive outlook, and curb your anxiety
@samfitzy8 nah, i quit.... just one major thing left to get over.... out of the last 4 nights of sleep i should of had, i lost two of them to this terrible insomnia, and at this point i am not sure if i will ever get the actual sleep i need, i have been walking around like a zombie down on two nights of sleep, but i am slowly getting used to it.... dont know if i will ever make that sleep up at this point... last night i went to bed at 10, woke up at 5....thats all i could stand to sleep..
@Manxam1234 i went throught that couldnt cope so i went on meathadone now im doing very well 7 months clean and nearly clean of the meath down to 24ml from 60ml not bad i think anywayz. i hope u get over this as u would be 1 in the very few people that can do it wiv out any fin. gud luck ;-)
@samfitzy8 word of advice. even though its gonna suck, keep going down on your dose...once your down to like 5 ML.... go lower... life is gonna be shitty. But not as bad as if you quit cold turkey, and trust me it sucks balls.... first 5 days i didnt even eat anything,do your self a favor and force yourself to eat... if you dont it just complicates things... another thing that can help when your finally ready to quit is getting a doctor to prescribe you some vallium... i didnt do that.
@samfitzy8 but it would have helped so much....thing is with the vallium, you Dont wanna take it until you start having serous withdrawls... drug interaction can kill you... Main pointers i can give you.... CURB YOUR ANXIETY>.. it will fucking kill you if you let it get out of control. Second you HAVE to keep a positve attitude. i mean your gonna be hating life. but keep positive.Third...... Go through withdrawls with someone around as much as you can, even if they dont pay attention to you.
@samfitzy8 and lastly, get some Vicodins or something that isnt to hardcore.... when your having your most serous withdrawls, or a sever anxiety attack take a couple...... what i did instead of that is i took 10 milligrams of methadone 3 days in, and then nothing else. It didnt reset my withdrawl time at all. I had been taking about 60 mg a day so...one more thing... DO NOT WITHDRAW in your bedroom or your own house if you can help it. IT will give you some bad feeling later on that you dont wan
@Manxam1234 thx for the advice i finaly feel ready to give that meth up still shitin it though, worst thing is i keep thinkin goin through withdrawel of the meth im gonna end up back on that shit and really dont wonna, but knowin sum one else dun it makes it so much easyer and i thank you for that.
@samfitzy8 well man, look at it this way, Either quit methadone, or get back on it, its as simple as that, go back to the H is not an option, but to keep positive, dosing again shouldnt be an option either, when you do this its all or nothing, and trust me you win big time when you quit...... this last week...Lake, cliff diving, dancing, girls.... not spending it at my house......I got my life back very quickly.... i can have sex now too... you know??? didnt need it before... now its lovely: )
@Manxam1234 i aint got time for all that but would love 2 try it, im self emplyed so when i do get of meth then will have sum fin 2 keep mind in over drive. Hows long u been clean now? u dont have 2 say if u dont wonna.
@Manxam1234 hope ya dont mate ye i mean when u do have it it numbs your thoughts but u got to remember they cum back 10 times worst next day. gud luck mate and let me now how u get on will ya cause u sound kind of nice.
@Manxam1234 Something interesting that happened to me, I detoxed in my room in the summertime, next summer, the first time the swamp cooler came on and I smelled that distinct smell, I ACTUALLY got aches and chills. So certain stimuli can act as a playback device for the memories of your detox, try not to do it in a place you spend a lot of time.
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will every shut up about gate way drugs. weed or beer dus not leed to other drugs. stupidnes duz. i smoke weed and drink beer. but i wnt go on to harder drugs. we shud change da name to gate way stupidness
@maxisme21 You're obviously on the younger end. Using any substance opens the door to trying others. If you're associating with people who smoke weed, chances are one of those people use harder drugs. "I'm comfortable with marijuana, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?" You'll understand when you're older.
The official "truth" in the middle 1960s was that heroin addicts started with popping pills like Seconal or Benzedrine. A few years later the official "truth" changed to addicts starting with marijuana, going on to heroin and ending up using LSD. Official truth is what the government wants you to believe. See DUCK AND COVER commercials from 1951. The official truth in 1920 was that opiate users started out by prescription opiates. Take a pick.
@maxisme21 I agree with you. In the 1920s and before when diamorphine was legal and available with a prescription or without before 1914, many heroin addicts got that way because a doctor prescribed this substance to their patients and so the patients became addicted. My only problem is with propaganda and the me way people react without critical thought.
@spartan688082 Yeah, but they go on to vicodin or cocaine or ritalin, or X, and THEN heroin or crack or meth. Don't kid yourself, pot is a gateway. You'll learn when you get older
This is a very simple argument you've presented. Just cuz apples and tomatoes are round, it does not make 'em be in one family group. And you're arguing that those who performed usual tasks are subjected to an inclination to heavy drugs. My statement was that weed leads you towards more experimentation, and a jog in the park leads you away from it, unless you'r jogging to score some. Don't Americanify my ideology.
@denebgarza yeah but most people who smoke weed will get in contact with cocaine, that doesnt mean they will take it and after cocaine its pretty much downhill. so say no to cocaine :D
@denebgarza good call bro, i hate that stupid argument... i know dudes who hadnt even drunk booze , even ciggies, nothing, and BAM, 13/14 yrs old 1 gram a day habit!
@denebgarza Weed = illegal drug. It introduces you to the idea that buying an illegal drug to use recreationally is good. It doesn't ALWAYS happen, but for some people it CAN lead to harder drugs. Many drug addicts have said themselves that it started from there. I know you want to protect your ability to get stoned, but that shit is just juvenile. People just think this way. You skip a period then you start thinking skipping is fine, then you start to skip days of school. It can happen.
Getting stoned doesn't fool you into trying other drugs and thinking illegal drugs aren't so harmful, drug classification and propaganda fueled ignorance does.
If you classify a relatively safe substance (weed) together with a deadly ones, it's only logical that some people will go on to try the latter thinking it will be safe.
Stop blaming the substance, correct fucked up classification systems and stop the bullshit facts to diminish people's ignorance about the subject. Then we'll talk.
@denebgarza I dont think its about classification. Most ppl know what they do when they try heroin. Some are willing to take that risk. Heroin hardly got a good reputation among young ppl
@denebgarza Its BIZARRE to me why people say pot isn't a gateway drug. Reading your writing, you don't seem to have much experience or too good a grasp on the subject. You're probably not too far into your marijuana addiction as well, it shows. ANY long time drug addict will tell you that pot is a gateway drug, the people who say otherwise are usually young.
@Stillwater900 If you want to talk about experience on this subject why don't you try weed first? I've enjoyed a few joints in my lifetime, yes. Did I ever have the urge to try heroine and kill myself? No. Do I crave weed whenever I don't have it? Nope.
Before you claim to have a good grasp on "the subject" I suggest you actually do learn to do some unbiased research and actually get some real experience.
I'm sick of you lazy ignorants repeating what you hear in propaganda and swearing by it.
@denebgarza I smoked for 8 years, hows that for experience? Any long time drug addict will tell you that its a gateway drug, any young pot smoker will tell you it isn't. If you're already associating with people who smoke weed, chances are one of them uses harder drugs, so the opportunity is open. "Well I'm comfortable with pot, and its not as much fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?" You'll understand when you're older.
@Stillwater900 As I've stated in previous posts, the reason people may be tempted to try harder drugs after weed is because weed is classified as dangerous as cocaine and heroine. "Oh, I tried weed, it was fun and harmless. Now let me try other shit it should be fun and harmless too!"
Propaganda tells you weed will fry your brain. You try it and find out it's not true, then why not try cocaine? Heroine? Everyone says it's bad, but hey, they said that about weed too ;)
@Stillwater900 ... did you try harder drugs after weed? Your friends maybe? This has nothing to do with age. ALL my friends smoke weed, NONE have gone to harder drugs. We're all well informed about the consequences of other drugs, including alcohol. I'm sorry if your views might be biased by ignorant people.
@denebgarza Yeah I did go on to hard drugs actually. All my friends and I started with pot, and today I can't associate with them because most are still on heroin. My views came from experience, not bias. Out of curiousity, how old are you?
@Stillwater900 I'm sorry you and your friends had to go through that. I'm 21.
My point is I've known people who've gone to harder drugs after alcohol, after weed and after tobacco. Mostly alcohol though. There's thousands of "gateway activities". One of them could be smoking weed, yet the main I would say would be being ill-informed about drugs and having like-minded friends, and attending parties/settings where harder drugs are easily available.
@RawwestHide Spot on. "I'm already comfortable with pot, and its not as much fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like? Some of my pot buddies use it, so it'd be easy to get a hold of." If you look, its only the young, inexperienced people who says that its not a gateway drug, the people who aren't old enough to understand how it works.
@denebgarza you have to understand peoples rage with this topic, most people who start out on weed try other drugs right? HARDLY no one just goes out and try's cocaine or XTC before trying weed. WEED IS A SAFE DRUG FOR MENY PEOPLE THOUGH. AND YES BEER IS FAR WORST.
@denebgarza "have gone for a jog in the park"? Nope. But maybe they've gotten drunk and eaten fast food garbage before, as these are addictive activities just like heroin.
weed is not a gateway drug.Sure most people doing hard drugs did weed before but there is absolutely no proof that it was weed that made them seek hard drugs.
@xdeliriumx1 It depends on your attitude towards drugs at the end of the day. Or where you live, who you know, all that shit. The cause of herion addiction is saying yes to it.
@xdeliriumx1 Exactly. Most heroin or other drug addicts have drunk alcohol before getting into drugs as well. Why in the hell is it not alcohol that was the 'gateway drug'? Given that every peer reviewed long term study COMPARING the RELATIVE addictiveness and harm of various drugs conclude that pot is overall less harmful and addictive than alcohol, there is zero reason to claim that pot is a gateway drug yet alcohol is not. (see eg Lancet peer reviewed study of 08)
@xdeliriumx1 Lol, so you admit that they used pot first. You must be young, anyone who thinks its not a gateway drug hasn't much experience with the subject. Any substance will open the door. "I feel comfortable with pot, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?"
To end the argument on weed being not a drug - it fucking is u ignorant morons. By saying it's not - you allow other generations to slip into the trap of doing it, thinking it's not gonna lead you to nothing serious, BUT IT DOES. Weed makes u CARELESS and allows you to EXPERIMENT with other substances, therefore weed does play a major role in addiction development. 90% of addicts started with pot smoking - do a research u fucking goons and stop lying!!!
@sackville10 point blank weed is still an illegal drug. therefore looked down upon by society. its your life your choices. I use to sell to all the addicts. I have no remorse either. what you do on your own time is you
@TheBopop you sold to junkyz. and you hav no remorse. im not tryin to talk trash but u make me sic. and it duznt just afect junkies. my brother has been robed like 5 times by diferent junkies ( hes not a junkie ) MY BIKES HAV BEEN STOLEN BY JUNKIES. GO FUCK YOUR SELF
@maxisme21 First off you say your not talking trash yet you told me to go fuck myself. I dont think you understand the rules of the dope game, people get jacked and people make money people die blah blah blah. the rules go on. The number one rule is keep a gun with you. if you had a gun the junkie would have never taken your bike. use a lock??? ever heard of that. Now go kill yourself.
@sackville10 "Yeah kids, pot isn't a gateway drug, don't worry!" Any experienced addict will tell you it is most deffinitely a gateway drug, stop kidding yourself. "I'm comfortable with marijuana, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like? Some of my pot buddies use it, so it wouldn't be hard to get." You'll understand when you're older.
Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and your argument is embarrassingly idiotic. How can you tell someone else to do research when you literally just yelled completely incorrect and unsubstantiated claims. How does it allow you to experiment? You are always allowed to experiment, the mentality of wanting to experiment leads to hard drugs. Pot itself does not make you want to do hard drugs, just like drinking Coke doesn't make you want to eat cake.
There is absolutely no evidence of pot making someone careless. One could argue while you are under the effects of THC you may behave carelessly, just like one does when they are intoxicated by most substances, but long term use or short terms use does NOT "make you careless."
if weed can make you careless than there is a 90% chance that something else out there that will make you just as careless one day. thats just no self control... dont blame the "drug" blame the person. lie to your kids about the effects and the rumor will get around to them that you were lying. now you have an even bigger problem...
this is 100 percent true. . once the kid finds out(by smoking) you were lying about a harmless substance like marijuana. . they figure if you lied abut the pot, than you probably lied about crack being a horrible thing too and they might as well give it a try
Are we allowing our population to slip into a trap of alchohol, thus all other substance abuse? When are we going to accept personal responsibility? Worst thing to happen to me from pot is being prosecuted for it. IF you had to choose between alcohol and pot to give to a 15 year old which would you choose? If you choose alcohol this shows your lack of knowledge. Marijuana is extremely safe compared to alcohol.
you are correct when you say most addicts started with somking weed. But then again, they represent only a minor portion of weed users in the world. Weed alone does not make you careless to the point where you will just try an addictive drug just out of carelessness.
Weed does not play a major role in addiction development, stupidity and/or very bad life situation are the major factors when talking about addiction development.
Oh, btw, how many times have you smoked weed in your life?
Guys, c'mon. I agree that alcohol is worse than weed. But we'r not talking about it at the moment what so ever.
Weed is a substance that deprives you of normal thinking and affects your judgement. People who drink in colleges have a much higher potential of getting to the end while those who smoke get fucked up half way thru and drop out.
as i said to eturnone. it depends from person to person i have seen many heavy smokers quite pot like it was nothing . no headaches, no eating or sleeping problem very little urge. but i on the other hand go thru many withdrawl symptoms.and also alcohol is a horrible problem with colleges and many kids drop out and fail thru college because of it... many kids also die in college because of it. there are far more alcohol related death then there is from pot.. god ignorance huh?
I'm not pro drinking. But I can not support the mentality that an addictive substance such as weed can be promoted as a less harmful substance that any other.
If you smoked weed every day, or every other day for the past 5 years or more - I dare you to quit smoking it for a month. I fkn dare you and I bet 80% of you will succumb to the notion of the smell by the end of week one.
marijuanna is not physically addcitive. . .it could be phsycolocigal addiction, but so can crackin your fingers, sleepin on your left side or eating Mcdonalds
@eturnone weed can be physically addicted.... not every one will get addicted but some can. and all addiction is psychological ..it is dependency is a physical addiction.i iwish i had the time to find my sources or id show it. and from my own personal experience it was far easier for me to quit pot then it was to quit opiates.... just my 2 cents
What you''re also seeing in this film is prohibition at it's finest. Make something illegal so that a black market for it opens up that drives the product up by 400 percent from it's production cost forcing those who desire the product to commit intrusive and violent crimes to obtain it. Prohibition turns a nonviolent past time into a crime.
lesterclaypool1 1 week ago
Keep in mind that what is shown in this film is only the ACUTE withdrawal from opiates. Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS) can last months or years while your brain is rebooting it's mainframe trying to find the original program for dopamine processing. Some rehabilitation cultures theorize that so-called "Hot shot" deaths in "recovered" addicts isn't an occupational hazard of the addict using again but the suicide of someone tired of feeling bad because their brain hasn't healed yet.
lesterclaypool1 1 week ago
i smoke every single day...although its gone from ten blizzes a day when i was younger and now taking a few puffs at night after work...i was addicted to opiates and the mj was the only thing that helped me through withdrawal.
rickythepitbull 3 months ago
@adiostraitorobama Liberty! iam in for that .but how in a crazy world ?
bassetter1 6 months ago
@Xquisit19 Being natural has nothing to do with safety. Cyanide is natural, care for a bite? It takes longer than harder drugs, but pot turns people into losers.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
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@adiostraitorobama You need to associate negative things with using drugs, thats one of the ONLY ways to break psychological addiction. If you don't punish yourself for being addicted, how are you ever going to stop?? Its called negative reinforcement, and let me tell you, I quit because I was sick of withdrawing all the time. Half of people at NA will tell you the same thing.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
why is it ok for the dude to smoke cigarettes?????????
doriandoti 7 months ago
I think this cold turkey thing is stupid and wrong. its like you have to punish yourself for being addicted.
bassetter1 8 months ago
@bassetter1 You need to associate negative things with using drugs, thats one of the ONLY ways to break psychological addiction. If you don't punish yourself for being addicted, how are you ever going to stop?? Its called negative reinforcement, and let me tell you, I quit because I was sick of withdrawing all the time. Half of people at NA will tell you the same thing.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 I will give you credit for that ,but my main thought on opiate addiction is that there is an underlying depression of sorts .And you just cant beat opiates on anti-depressive effect. I am very happy that you have found another way in life . Free hugs from Denmark . What the world needs now is love .
bassetter1 6 months ago
The restless legs/feet and hands are hell. Most of the WD's are tollerable, but the insomnia last for weeks, it always drove me back to using. I couln't las 8 hours without opiates.
MRNUBAIN 8 months ago
I've been there and done done but frankly speaking,i got off of it without any help from anything (Methadone) and without help from any body(rehab). It's my fighting spirit and will that help me to stay clean....for 21 years.
55mautak 8 months ago
@55mautak fair play to ya lad
itzhitmanhunt 8 months ago
Maybe weed is a gateway drug, maybe it isn't, but it definitely saps your motivation.
bobbyChrismikeLou 9 months ago
From personal experience I would say in my situation weed was a gateway drug. Though the drug isn't addictive - the experience of being brazed was. My tolerance for weed grew til a point I could of easily smoked crap loads and just get a light effect from it. From there I realised to get the same high - I must need to move onto more harsher drugs.
Luckily, I stopped once I realised that and have been happily been weedfree for almost 5 years now. Even now I do miss being brazed.
NeoFalcon69 9 months ago 2
@NeoFalcon69 bullshit.all you need is a tolerance break of a week.than it will make you stoned again
TheUnknownGrower 8 months ago
@TheUnknownGrower
Not in my experience - it wasn't the same effect I got when I first tried the stuff. I tried a tolerance break from weed but it wasn't the same - yeah the effect was enhanced abit but the effect wasn't the same as before.
NeoFalcon69 8 months ago
@NeoFalcon69 Pot is deffinitely a gateway drug. Its BIZARRE to me why people think it isn't. The only people that do say that are marijuana addicts acting out their perverse love for the drug. Its addictive too, WITHOUT A DOUBT
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@NeoFalcon69 Its DEFFINITELY addictive for some people. This myth is perpetrated by the people who it isn't addictive for, they make the mistake of thinking everyone else's brain works like theirs does
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@NeoFalcon69 My theory is that the only people who think pot isn't a gateway drug are addicted to it and defending the drug they love, and they're almost ALL young, meaning that they just haven't been around long enough to realize that the gateway theory is valid. Don't be naive poeple.
Stillwater900 1 month ago
@Stillwater900
If pot is a gateway drug so is alcohol, tobacco, any herbal supplement that changes your mood, sugar etc. etc.
The gateway is the brain of the individual. One person can break their arm take the Percocet prescribed, heal and never think about an opiate again while another will start hitting up emergency departments and clinics looking for more of the drug when they have never used ANY drug in their life.
If you give a drug to a struggling man he'll reach for that lifeline.
lesterclaypool1 1 week ago
@NeoFalcon69
Brazed? Somebody clearly hasn't smoked Marijuana.
Mrgyn 1 month ago
this isnt a journey man doc it wasmade mid 90s by a Portuguese Journalist about a friend of his, he said he was going off heroin cold turkey and the friend said he would help him and after would give him job and would keep doctor all times present outside the apart, u might be wondering why he didnt took methadone or subuxone or morphine right? because they where illegal in 90s, u could get easy, cheaper heroin morphine sulfate for nothing back then coke aswell, there where alot port doc about H
badsign1980 10 months ago
weed made me seek out harder drugs kinda.. because i got bored of weed and looked for a similar more potent hi which was opiates.. so weed is kinda a gateway drug for some ppl.
prowla33 10 months ago
@prowla33 Exactly, thats how it works. Plus, you're already associating with people who smoke pot, chances are one of them uses harder drugs. "I'm already comfortable with smoking pot, and its not as much fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?"
Stillwater900 6 months ago
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mdcombs79 11 months ago
cigarettes...the gateway drug.
CanadianChowChow 1 year ago
If you want to push the gateway theory then you have to include tobacco because for most people, before weed comes tobacco.
ontariobuds 1 year ago 12
@ontariobuds So you admit that weed follows tobacco? There you go, gateway drug! Using any substance opens the door. Marijuana is undoubtedly a gateway drug, its BIZARRE to me how people can say it isn't. Its also addictive. Its more harmful than people realize, it takes longer than harder drugs, but it turns you into a loser.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 I was just saying t hat if they want to use the gateway theory then they can't use marijuana as the prime example EVERY time it gets brought up.It was years before I even knew what weed was.And before I smoked pot, I smoked cigarettes. When I was young at family parties I would ask for coffee, there is another stimulant. For me (if you believe in the theory) it goes coffee cigs pot.
I don't believe in gateway, you just try as you see fit. millions of ppl don't go to H after pot.
ontariobuds 6 months ago
@ontariobuds Yeah you're right, they go to cocaine or X or vicodin or ritalin or oxy, which are really not much different than heroin for all intents and purposes. And why can't they use pot as the prime example of gateway drug? You don't encourage people to start smoking pot do you?
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 yes I do. Smoking cannabis is at most, a mild health risk, a VERY MILD health risk.
I believe it might of been Health Canada, whoever it was they came to the conclusion that smoking cannabis, one of the biggest risks is bronchitis. Tobacco causes cancer, cannabis cures cancer. I will try and dig up the study but there are any laguardia report, and many many others. cannabis isn't bad for you. smoking isn't the only way, the other ways are even healthier! edibles, vapor etc.
ontariobuds 6 months ago
@ontariobuds You forgot the MENTAL health risk, it turns you into a loser, very slowly so you don't even notice. People change from long term pot smoking.. I know you're going to protest that, because addicts develop a perverse romance with whatever drug they use, and they'll defend it to the death. Turning into a loser is like the frog in the pot of water, you turn the heat up a degree at a time, and he boils to death without ever noticing.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 well I never say that cannabis isn't mentally addicting. Cocaine is mostly psychologically addicting, not physical, like heroin. So yes, smoking cannabis is psychologically addicting.could you explain why you think smoking cannabis turns people into losers.? I am just curious because I don't believe it. If you mean it makes you lazy then t hat is untrue, lazy people are lazy no matter what. it's their personality. I work mon-fri 9-5 and don't sit around all day. explain please
ontariobuds 6 months ago
@ontariobuds My fathers hippie friends for instance, the ones that have been smoking for 30-40 years, are in arrested development. They never progress, they have no money, no career, no wife, no social standing, shitty house, etc. The ones that stopped decades ago actually do have some of those things. Even some of my friends, after 10 years of smoking are not the same, they've lost their spark, and they don't even realize it
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 all that may be true, but that doesn't mean it happens to everybody. Just becasue your fathers friends are losers doesn't mean it was due to cannabis smoking. I have no changed, I still do my daily life chores. Also, I believe the key to smokign cannabis is not to do it daily, do it on weekends.
it's better that way. smoking everyday is not the best idea, plus smoking anything is bad for your lungs.
peace!
ontariobuds 6 months ago
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@Stillwater900 all that may be true, but that doesn't mean it happens to everybody. Just becasue your fathers friends are losers doesn't mean it was due to cannabis smoking. I have no changed, I still do my daily life chores. Also, I believe the key to smokign cannabis is not to do it daily, do it on weekends.
it's better that way. smoking everyday is not the best idea, plus smoking anything is bad for your lungs.
peace my friend.
ontariobuds 6 months ago
@ontariobuds You just think that cocaine is the most psychologically addictive because that was your drug of choice, and you want it to seem like you're real tough and hard. Theres no evidence for it, because drugs effect people totally different, for some it IS the most addictive, for others heroin is, for others alcohol, and so on. Of course you don't want to believe pot turns people into losers, because you smoke it haha!
Stillwater900 1 month ago
Weed is called a gateway drug just to scare people into not taking it. "If I have one puff of that weed I'm going to start having cravings for meth or even heroin" It's a scare tactic.
SydBarrett7 1 year ago
@SydBarrett7 Don't be silly, thats not how it works. Its like this: "I'm comfortable with marijuana, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like? Some of my pot buddies use it, so it wouldn't be hard to get" You'll understand when you're older.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
these where the days the casal ventoso/lisbon) was still in high gear, u could get anything there, rock heroin crack cocaine dilaudid molrphine, etc
badsign1980 1 year ago
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@badsign1980 What is that? casal ventoso/lisbon)?
ods1ODS 11 months ago
In my opinion, for whatever it's worth, gateway drugs are incidental. You don't start using hard drugs because you smoked weed, you start using them FOR THE SAME REASONS AS you smoked weed. It's not a causal relationship. That's why some people move on to harder drugs, and others never do. But this is just my theory.
helkat14 1 year ago
I see many writing about gateway drugs. Atleast where I live, most ppl have smoked weed. Many also try speed, ecstacy etc. But few wants to try heroin. They are scared of it and knows how serious the addiction is.
erikandreasnilsson 1 year ago
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dickydoo079 1 year ago
9:12 until the rest of this episode... yeah that's pretty much the worst part of it. Man that feeling sucks, it F'ing SUCKS! But the best feeling is having 4 months completely clean, cold turkey. I did it!!!! I feel so good.
mattman4020 1 year ago 5
@mattman4020 good 4u,respect
DAVERUKY 5 months ago
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jermhatesyouall 1 year ago
watch this: "Smoking Fentanyl in Hells Kichen ( Real beware in San Francisco) "
ThePavilion01 1 year ago
im a recovering heroin addict, and i recommend going to a methadone program for anyone still out there sick and suffering. it saved my life and is the only way i can live without the constant craving and obsessions. anyone who has never done opiates couldnt possibly understand withdrawal. when u finally do get some sleep, you dream of using. heroin and the needle are SATAN, thats the only reason something could be so evil. may God bless all of you out there like me. peace...
darlingnikki8807 1 year ago
@darlingnikki8807 Please don't recommend that SHIT methadone to people. MAYBE Suboxone, but methadone is a full agonist. Big Pharma just wants to be your new drug dealer
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 i have since detoxed from it and no longer believe the LIE that is methadone! suboxone is the way to go most definitely. no way would i ever recommend it to anyone. ever.
darlingnikki8807 6 months ago
@darlingnikki8807 I knew a girl that KILLED HERSELF in the middle of a methadone detox. Another guy had a full blown manic episode and developed bipolar disorder (?!). Big Pharma summoned methadone into being, a full on agonist with the worst withdrawal symptoms of any drug nearly and impossible to get off, because it wants to be your new drug dealer for the rest of your life.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@darlingnikki8807 I knew a girl that KILLED HERSELF in the middle of a methadone detox. Another guy had a full blown manic episode and developed bipolar disorder (?!). Big Pharma summoned methadone into being, a full on agonist with the worst withdrawal symptoms of any drug nearly and impossible to get off, because it wants to be your new drug dealer for the rest of your life, and it looks like the jesus-heads got to you as well.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
We take youtube for granted, so quickly, like a good girlfriend. But here it is, showing us glimpses into people's lives like TV never could. Forget fake "reality shows" when we've got a link to the main vein right here. Long live independent broadcasting.
OregonCoastGhost 1 year ago
fuck propaganda piece of shit
4verageMan 1 year ago
Self-absorbed fucks. Put them in the military.
robertschelly 1 year ago
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@robertschelly Totally agree Bro., we, or I was, a Self-absorbed fuck, but you never know what kind of life lead them there. Most junkies know they are a piece of shit, but getting that monkey off your back, until you have experienced it for 7 straight days, is so hard. It is a very selfish lifestyle!
flippyed1 1 year ago
there wouldnt be no shitty gateway if weed was simply legalized
dodoboy1212 1 year ago
and this is why i quit as well. just woke up one day and GOT SICK OF HUSTLING FOR CASH 24/7.the constant panic, fear, and desperation..plus the humiliation of running out of all but the most embarrassing funding options..i'm amazed that this kid was able to smoke for 10 years without getting into spikes. i lasted about 2 years on sniffing and smoking before i hit the IV to make my cash last longer
DougglesMagnificent 1 year ago
did the same thing two months ago. so disturbing how cigarettes taste while detoxing - bad. they more than anything triggered my gag reflex without fail but i had to smoke SOMETHING
DougglesMagnificent 1 year ago
he is very brave
Gazza30592 1 year ago
this kid must be doing black tar...the shit im addicted to...FUCK! my life
ThyHoneyNut 1 year ago
@ThyHoneyNut.....y does it make a difference if its black tar or something stronger just wondering???
xohollisteraxo3 1 year ago
I am in the midst of getting clean from pain killers. But I'm still amazed at what a simple chemical can do to ones body. It wreaks such havoc on the mind it amazes me.
ontariobuds 1 year ago
Mate, this is because YOU WANT it. You need IBOGAINE.
pajarillo954 1 year ago 2
I take a lot of painkillers because I got a lot of pain I need to kill.
Hitman018 1 year ago
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In spite of your intense desire
For lack of firmness to discard
The habits that stink of the mire,
There is no reason to despair,
Try what you can time and again,
Beseech your Maker to repair
The faults and you in strength will gain."
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DrMickaelleDougherty 1 year ago
weed is pathetic just as any other drug but ya weed is safer,but with the wrong people 9/10 times leads to coke,and then some! if you know what I mean.
CaliYoungGun1991 1 year ago
to ease your withdrawal symptoms, if you dont wanna take any other drugs (suboxone/methadone/valium) SMOKE SOME WEED. If it was legal I bet its what doctors would prescribe for withdrawal from opiates.
xanaxpillz 1 year ago
@xanaxpillz Pot does absolutely nothing for you. All I got was mental cloudiness and bizarre thoughts. Better off without it
Stillwater900 6 months ago
Marijuana is about 20.67 times worse than heroin studies have shown.
TickleMehNancy 1 year ago
@TickleMehNancy Thats the FUCKIN DUMBEST thing i have EVER heard. KILLLL YOOO SELLLFFFFF
xanaxpillz 1 year ago
@xanaxpillz Go overdose on heroin you dumb cunt hole.
TickleMehNancy 1 year ago
@TickleMehNancy u fuckin retard u said WEED is worse than heroin.. PLEASE tell me where you heard that bullshit. n all i do is smoke nugz FUCK boy go post ur bullshit somewhere else
xanaxpillz 1 year ago
@xanaxpillz Weed is worse than heroin because all the people who smoke weed are retarded ass holes. I emphasize the word retarded. Heroin just makes you addicted but doesn't make you retarded.
TickleMehNancy 1 year ago
@TickleMehNancy Thats true, theres no organ damage with Heroin or any opiate, they're non-toxic. Pot turns you in a total loser if you smoke it long enough
Stillwater900 6 months ago
Being an Ex- heroin addict, this is not something i would want to watch 2 hours of, or however long it is....The week after i went cold turkey was the worst ever. words cant even describe it. Utter Mental Agony is a start though.... Here i am 2 years later. Waiting to be admitted to a methadone detox facility... hopefully tomorrow. Never again will i quit cold turkey....
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 im on meathadone as well been on it for about a year i am scared shitliss about cumin of it i have been told its worst then a cold turkey plz let me know how you got on i would really appriciate it thanks.
samfitzy8 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 well. aside from digging shit out of my ass with my fingers, it wasnt all that terribly bad... but the constipation problem was starting to get to me. thats why i quit. Cold turkey, Just have a really positive outlook, and curb your anxiety
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 so you still using then.
samfitzy8 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 nah, i quit.... just one major thing left to get over.... out of the last 4 nights of sleep i should of had, i lost two of them to this terrible insomnia, and at this point i am not sure if i will ever get the actual sleep i need, i have been walking around like a zombie down on two nights of sleep, but i am slowly getting used to it.... dont know if i will ever make that sleep up at this point... last night i went to bed at 10, woke up at 5....thats all i could stand to sleep..
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 i went throught that couldnt cope so i went on meathadone now im doing very well 7 months clean and nearly clean of the meath down to 24ml from 60ml not bad i think anywayz. i hope u get over this as u would be 1 in the very few people that can do it wiv out any fin. gud luck ;-)
samfitzy8 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 word of advice. even though its gonna suck, keep going down on your dose...once your down to like 5 ML.... go lower... life is gonna be shitty. But not as bad as if you quit cold turkey, and trust me it sucks balls.... first 5 days i didnt even eat anything,do your self a favor and force yourself to eat... if you dont it just complicates things... another thing that can help when your finally ready to quit is getting a doctor to prescribe you some vallium... i didnt do that.
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 but it would have helped so much....thing is with the vallium, you Dont wanna take it until you start having serous withdrawls... drug interaction can kill you... Main pointers i can give you.... CURB YOUR ANXIETY>.. it will fucking kill you if you let it get out of control. Second you HAVE to keep a positve attitude. i mean your gonna be hating life. but keep positive.Third...... Go through withdrawls with someone around as much as you can, even if they dont pay attention to you.
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 and lastly, get some Vicodins or something that isnt to hardcore.... when your having your most serous withdrawls, or a sever anxiety attack take a couple...... what i did instead of that is i took 10 milligrams of methadone 3 days in, and then nothing else. It didnt reset my withdrawl time at all. I had been taking about 60 mg a day so...one more thing... DO NOT WITHDRAW in your bedroom or your own house if you can help it. IT will give you some bad feeling later on that you dont wan
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 thx for the advice i finaly feel ready to give that meth up still shitin it though, worst thing is i keep thinkin goin through withdrawel of the meth im gonna end up back on that shit and really dont wonna, but knowin sum one else dun it makes it so much easyer and i thank you for that.
samfitzy8 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 well man, look at it this way, Either quit methadone, or get back on it, its as simple as that, go back to the H is not an option, but to keep positive, dosing again shouldnt be an option either, when you do this its all or nothing, and trust me you win big time when you quit...... this last week...Lake, cliff diving, dancing, girls.... not spending it at my house......I got my life back very quickly.... i can have sex now too... you know??? didnt need it before... now its lovely: )
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 i aint got time for all that but would love 2 try it, im self emplyed so when i do get of meth then will have sum fin 2 keep mind in over drive. Hows long u been clean now? u dont have 2 say if u dont wonna.
samfitzy8 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 2 weeks now about. No thoughts of going back to that life.
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 hope ya dont mate ye i mean when u do have it it numbs your thoughts but u got to remember they cum back 10 times worst next day. gud luck mate and let me now how u get on will ya cause u sound kind of nice.
samfitzy8 1 year ago
@samfitzy8 Facebook page?
Manxam1234 1 year ago
@Manxam1234 Something interesting that happened to me, I detoxed in my room in the summertime, next summer, the first time the swamp cooler came on and I smelled that distinct smell, I ACTUALLY got aches and chills. So certain stimuli can act as a playback device for the memories of your detox, try not to do it in a place you spend a lot of time.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Manxam1234 stop being a pussy and just quit cold turkey. You'll get cramps and throw up but it will be over.
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deadadelta 1 year ago
will every shut up about gate way drugs. weed or beer dus not leed to other drugs. stupidnes duz. i smoke weed and drink beer. but i wnt go on to harder drugs. we shud change da name to gate way stupidness
maxisme21 1 year ago
@maxisme21 You're obviously on the younger end. Using any substance opens the door to trying others. If you're associating with people who smoke weed, chances are one of those people use harder drugs. "I'm comfortable with marijuana, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?" You'll understand when you're older.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
horse lol why do they call it horse?
zitianaki 1 year ago 3
@zitianaki
Because when you get on the fucker it will take you for a ride and eventually throw you to the ground.
lesterclaypool1 8 months ago
The official "truth" in the middle 1960s was that heroin addicts started with popping pills like Seconal or Benzedrine. A few years later the official "truth" changed to addicts starting with marijuana, going on to heroin and ending up using LSD. Official truth is what the government wants you to believe. See DUCK AND COVER commercials from 1951. The official truth in 1920 was that opiate users started out by prescription opiates. Take a pick.
Nguli34689 1 year ago
@Nguli34689 um lol ur right. but heroin users get adicted to heroin by useing
maxisme21 1 year ago
@maxisme21 I agree with you. In the 1920s and before when diamorphine was legal and available with a prescription or without before 1914, many heroin addicts got that way because a doctor prescribed this substance to their patients and so the patients became addicted. My only problem is with propaganda and the me way people react without critical thought.
Nguli34689 1 year ago
horse? why do they call it horse?
zitianaki 1 year ago
dude what if hes just doing this for the money.. how is this guy doing now days? i got 1 yr clean off heroin so im allowed to assume that
beezyb42011 1 year ago
"Most heroin addicts have used weed before."
Most heroin addicts have eating McDonalds. Most heroin addicts have also had a glass of wine, have gone for a jog in the park, and have had a pet.
denebgarza 1 year ago 97
@denebgarza true, true
hateofgod666 1 year ago 2
+most weed users don't go on to using heroin/crack/meth etc.
spartan688082 1 year ago 2
@spartan688082 Yeah, but they go on to vicodin or cocaine or ritalin, or X, and THEN heroin or crack or meth. Don't kid yourself, pot is a gateway. You'll learn when you get older
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@denebgarza meeeh...
This is a very simple argument you've presented. Just cuz apples and tomatoes are round, it does not make 'em be in one family group. And you're arguing that those who performed usual tasks are subjected to an inclination to heavy drugs. My statement was that weed leads you towards more experimentation, and a jog in the park leads you away from it, unless you'r jogging to score some. Don't Americanify my ideology.
ximik06 1 year ago
@denebgarza yeah but most people who smoke weed will get in contact with cocaine, that doesnt mean they will take it and after cocaine its pretty much downhill. so say no to cocaine :D
blackfootnavajo 1 year ago
@blackfootnavajo And PainKillers.
luvmenow33 1 year ago
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ThePetitehippie 1 year ago
@ Denebgarza J'aimerai savoir ce que tu as voulu dire et quel msg as tu voulu faire passer.Merci
ThePetitehippie 1 year ago
lol buy the dvd? they are good movies you make but i wouldent buy them
zitianaki 1 year ago
@denebgarza good call bro, i hate that stupid argument... i know dudes who hadnt even drunk booze , even ciggies, nothing, and BAM, 13/14 yrs old 1 gram a day habit!
boazandjiacinth 1 year ago
@denebgarza Weed = illegal drug. It introduces you to the idea that buying an illegal drug to use recreationally is good. It doesn't ALWAYS happen, but for some people it CAN lead to harder drugs. Many drug addicts have said themselves that it started from there. I know you want to protect your ability to get stoned, but that shit is just juvenile. People just think this way. You skip a period then you start thinking skipping is fine, then you start to skip days of school. It can happen.
RawwestHide 1 year ago
Getting stoned doesn't fool you into trying other drugs and thinking illegal drugs aren't so harmful, drug classification and propaganda fueled ignorance does.
If you classify a relatively safe substance (weed) together with a deadly ones, it's only logical that some people will go on to try the latter thinking it will be safe.
Stop blaming the substance, correct fucked up classification systems and stop the bullshit facts to diminish people's ignorance about the subject. Then we'll talk.
denebgarza 1 year ago 2
@denebgarza I dont think its about classification. Most ppl know what they do when they try heroin. Some are willing to take that risk. Heroin hardly got a good reputation among young ppl
erikandreasnilsson 1 year ago
@denebgarza Its BIZARRE to me why people say pot isn't a gateway drug. Reading your writing, you don't seem to have much experience or too good a grasp on the subject. You're probably not too far into your marijuana addiction as well, it shows. ANY long time drug addict will tell you that pot is a gateway drug, the people who say otherwise are usually young.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 If you want to talk about experience on this subject why don't you try weed first? I've enjoyed a few joints in my lifetime, yes. Did I ever have the urge to try heroine and kill myself? No. Do I crave weed whenever I don't have it? Nope.
Before you claim to have a good grasp on "the subject" I suggest you actually do learn to do some unbiased research and actually get some real experience.
I'm sick of you lazy ignorants repeating what you hear in propaganda and swearing by it.
denebgarza 6 months ago
@denebgarza I smoked for 8 years, hows that for experience? Any long time drug addict will tell you that its a gateway drug, any young pot smoker will tell you it isn't. If you're already associating with people who smoke weed, chances are one of them uses harder drugs, so the opportunity is open. "Well I'm comfortable with pot, and its not as much fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?" You'll understand when you're older.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 As I've stated in previous posts, the reason people may be tempted to try harder drugs after weed is because weed is classified as dangerous as cocaine and heroine. "Oh, I tried weed, it was fun and harmless. Now let me try other shit it should be fun and harmless too!"
Propaganda tells you weed will fry your brain. You try it and find out it's not true, then why not try cocaine? Heroine? Everyone says it's bad, but hey, they said that about weed too ;)
Ignorance is the problem.
denebgarza 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 ... did you try harder drugs after weed? Your friends maybe? This has nothing to do with age. ALL my friends smoke weed, NONE have gone to harder drugs. We're all well informed about the consequences of other drugs, including alcohol. I'm sorry if your views might be biased by ignorant people.
denebgarza 6 months ago
@denebgarza Yeah I did go on to hard drugs actually. All my friends and I started with pot, and today I can't associate with them because most are still on heroin. My views came from experience, not bias. Out of curiousity, how old are you?
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@Stillwater900 I'm sorry you and your friends had to go through that. I'm 21.
My point is I've known people who've gone to harder drugs after alcohol, after weed and after tobacco. Mostly alcohol though. There's thousands of "gateway activities". One of them could be smoking weed, yet the main I would say would be being ill-informed about drugs and having like-minded friends, and attending parties/settings where harder drugs are easily available.
denebgarza 6 months ago
@RawwestHide Spot on. "I'm already comfortable with pot, and its not as much fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like? Some of my pot buddies use it, so it'd be easy to get a hold of." If you look, its only the young, inexperienced people who says that its not a gateway drug, the people who aren't old enough to understand how it works.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@denebgarza lmaoooooo
MrBigmonkeyballs 1 year ago
@denebgarza you have to understand peoples rage with this topic, most people who start out on weed try other drugs right? HARDLY no one just goes out and try's cocaine or XTC before trying weed. WEED IS A SAFE DRUG FOR MENY PEOPLE THOUGH. AND YES BEER IS FAR WORST.
antony6969 1 year ago
@denebgarza "have gone for a jog in the park"? Nope. But maybe they've gotten drunk and eaten fast food garbage before, as these are addictive activities just like heroin.
bobbyChrismikeLou 9 months ago
weed is not a gateway drug.Sure most people doing hard drugs did weed before but there is absolutely no proof that it was weed that made them seek hard drugs.
xdeliriumx1 1 year ago 23
@xdeliriumx1 its about chasing a high fool weed gets boring
and they chase something larger like coke which is escapable with extreme difficulty or heroin which almost impossible to escape
piniatamurderur 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1 It depends on your attitude towards drugs at the end of the day. Or where you live, who you know, all that shit. The cause of herion addiction is saying yes to it.
a7xwoohoo 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1 Cigs and alcohol are the gateway drugs!!
charliegee1111111111 1 year ago
@charliegee1111111111 Pot is the #1
SiiNaNz 1 year ago
@xdeliriumx1 Exactly. Most heroin or other drug addicts have drunk alcohol before getting into drugs as well. Why in the hell is it not alcohol that was the 'gateway drug'? Given that every peer reviewed long term study COMPARING the RELATIVE addictiveness and harm of various drugs conclude that pot is overall less harmful and addictive than alcohol, there is zero reason to claim that pot is a gateway drug yet alcohol is not. (see eg Lancet peer reviewed study of 08)
forestskog 10 months ago
@forestskog Who the hell is claiming that alcohol isn't a gateway drug??? Any substance at all will open the door
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@xdeliriumx1 Lol, so you admit that they used pot first. You must be young, anyone who thinks its not a gateway drug hasn't much experience with the subject. Any substance will open the door. "I feel comfortable with pot, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like?"
Stillwater900 6 months ago
Thinking about quiting myself...great video.
makingcentz 1 year ago
god bless the drugs for the end of stupid usa
jtebaize 1 year ago
To end the argument on weed being not a drug - it fucking is u ignorant morons. By saying it's not - you allow other generations to slip into the trap of doing it, thinking it's not gonna lead you to nothing serious, BUT IT DOES. Weed makes u CARELESS and allows you to EXPERIMENT with other substances, therefore weed does play a major role in addiction development. 90% of addicts started with pot smoking - do a research u fucking goons and stop lying!!!
ximik06 2 years ago
weed isnt the gate way drug , beer is . liying to our kids about weed is creating more of a problem then showing the differances .
sackville10 2 years ago 30
@sackville10 point blank weed is still an illegal drug. therefore looked down upon by society. its your life your choices. I use to sell to all the addicts. I have no remorse either. what you do on your own time is you
TheBopop 1 year ago
@TheBopop you sold to junkyz. and you hav no remorse. im not tryin to talk trash but u make me sic. and it duznt just afect junkies. my brother has been robed like 5 times by diferent junkies ( hes not a junkie ) MY BIKES HAV BEEN STOLEN BY JUNKIES. GO FUCK YOUR SELF
maxisme21 1 year ago
@maxisme21 First off you say your not talking trash yet you told me to go fuck myself. I dont think you understand the rules of the dope game, people get jacked and people make money people die blah blah blah. the rules go on. The number one rule is keep a gun with you. if you had a gun the junkie would have never taken your bike. use a lock??? ever heard of that. Now go kill yourself.
TheBopop 1 year ago
@sackville10
Yeah because weed is good for you right?...fucking moron
SerbianEagleCCCC 1 year ago
@SerbianEagleCCCC thats not what he said at all ..just jump 2 conclusions why dont u
delldesktop5566 1 year ago
@delldesktop5566
Why dont you come blow my balls?
SerbianEagleCCCC 1 year ago
@SerbianEagleCCCC u sound like an intelligent one
delldesktop5566 1 year ago
@delldesktop5566
wow that comeback cut deep :(
fucking queer
SerbianEagleCCCC 1 year ago
@sackville10 beer isnt a gate way drugs either, if your dumb enough to not know the consiquences of using heroin, you shouldnt be doing anything
dgardner93 1 year ago
@sackville10 cant agree more that booze is way more of a gateway drug than anything else
kmerf 1 year ago
@sackville10 "Yeah kids, pot isn't a gateway drug, don't worry!" Any experienced addict will tell you it is most deffinitely a gateway drug, stop kidding yourself. "I'm comfortable with marijuana, and its not as fun anymore... I wonder what cocaine is like? Some of my pot buddies use it, so it wouldn't be hard to get." You'll understand when you're older.
Stillwater900 6 months ago
@ximik06 and 100% of addicts played with some sort of toy when they were younger.
watchout guys, playing with toys makes you shoot up
ZackyPeddle 2 years ago 2
@ximik06
Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and your argument is embarrassingly idiotic. How can you tell someone else to do research when you literally just yelled completely incorrect and unsubstantiated claims. How does it allow you to experiment? You are always allowed to experiment, the mentality of wanting to experiment leads to hard drugs. Pot itself does not make you want to do hard drugs, just like drinking Coke doesn't make you want to eat cake.
snipee911 2 years ago
@ximik06
There is absolutely no evidence of pot making someone careless. One could argue while you are under the effects of THC you may behave carelessly, just like one does when they are intoxicated by most substances, but long term use or short terms use does NOT "make you careless."
snipee911 2 years ago
and there is research to back this claim up too. . and not just one study. . MANY studies
eturnone 1 year ago
if weed can make you careless than there is a 90% chance that something else out there that will make you just as careless one day. thats just no self control... dont blame the "drug" blame the person. lie to your kids about the effects and the rumor will get around to them that you were lying. now you have an even bigger problem...
Smatchimo 2 years ago
this is 100 percent true. . once the kid finds out(by smoking) you were lying about a harmless substance like marijuana. . they figure if you lied abut the pot, than you probably lied about crack being a horrible thing too and they might as well give it a try
eturnone 1 year ago
@ximik06 , SO what about alchohol sir?
Are we allowing our population to slip into a trap of alchohol, thus all other substance abuse? When are we going to accept personal responsibility? Worst thing to happen to me from pot is being prosecuted for it. IF you had to choose between alcohol and pot to give to a 15 year old which would you choose? If you choose alcohol this shows your lack of knowledge. Marijuana is extremely safe compared to alcohol.
Omegatide 2 years ago
you are correct when you say most addicts started with somking weed. But then again, they represent only a minor portion of weed users in the world. Weed alone does not make you careless to the point where you will just try an addictive drug just out of carelessness.
Weed does not play a major role in addiction development, stupidity and/or very bad life situation are the major factors when talking about addiction development.
Oh, btw, how many times have you smoked weed in your life?
comrad101 2 years ago
also most addicts were born from a women. . so does that mean that if you are an addict and born from a women, that plays a role in your addiction
eturnone 1 year ago
Guys, c'mon. I agree that alcohol is worse than weed. But we'r not talking about it at the moment what so ever.
Weed is a substance that deprives you of normal thinking and affects your judgement. People who drink in colleges have a much higher potential of getting to the end while those who smoke get fucked up half way thru and drop out.
ximik06 1 year ago
you cannot be serious here. do you know how many scholars, Lawyers, judges,and doctors use the substance :Canabis
eturnone 1 year ago 2
as i said to eturnone. it depends from person to person i have seen many heavy smokers quite pot like it was nothing . no headaches, no eating or sleeping problem very little urge. but i on the other hand go thru many withdrawl symptoms.and also alcohol is a horrible problem with colleges and many kids drop out and fail thru college because of it... many kids also die in college because of it. there are far more alcohol related death then there is from pot.. god ignorance huh?
inailedyourmom1 1 year ago
I'm not pro drinking. But I can not support the mentality that an addictive substance such as weed can be promoted as a less harmful substance that any other.
If you smoked weed every day, or every other day for the past 5 years or more - I dare you to quit smoking it for a month. I fkn dare you and I bet 80% of you will succumb to the notion of the smell by the end of week one.
ximik06 1 year ago
marijuanna is not physically addcitive. . .it could be phsycolocigal addiction, but so can crackin your fingers, sleepin on your left side or eating Mcdonalds
eturnone 1 year ago 4
here is basically what I wanted to say :
Most heroin users started drug use with weed.
But most weed users never end up doing heroin.
comrad101 1 year ago 2
@eturnone weed can be physically addicted.... not every one will get addicted but some can. and all addiction is psychological ..it is dependency is a physical addiction.i iwish i had the time to find my sources or id show it. and from my own personal experience it was far easier for me to quit pot then it was to quit opiates.... just my 2 cents
inailedyourmom1 1 year ago
It's amazing how ignorant some people can be.
denebgarza 1 year ago
@ximik06
inailedyourmom1 1 year ago
createwithnatei feel you im starting my detox today with suboxone. i dont wanna wake up sick again.
olevillage999 2 years ago