Hey guys. I'm battling from schizophrenia. I'm not asking for money or views or anything, but just for support and for people to hear me out. My psychiatrist said to let people know about your problem, but everyone thinks I'm weird and my family cannot understand or take me seriously. I made a blog about my problems, and I hope we can talk on there. My blog is battlingschizophrenia.blogspot.com . Fellow schizophrenics, you should also come. We can fight the battle together.
Hey guys. I'm battling from schizophrenia. I'm not asking for money or views or anything, but just for support and for people to hear me out. My psychiatrist said to let people know about your problem, but everyone thinks I'm weird and my family cannot understand or take me seriously. I made a blog about my problems, and I hope we can talk on there. My blog is battlingschizophrenia.blogspot.com . Fellow schizophrenics, you should also come. We can fight the battle together.
Very good video, I really appreciate it. We need more awareness about mental health in general. I do have one problem with people, not just this nice man, saying "schizophrenia is not multiple personality disorder and it doesn't mean you're violent." While that is true, that statement sounds like people with D.I.D. (multiple personality disorder) are being put down & portrayed as crazier or weirder than schizophrenics, when said in that context. But that's just my interpretation.
I think I'm schizophrenic. Many people don't believe me, but I haven't seen a doctor yet to know for sure. I don't have hallucinations, but all the negative symptoms are present. I've had people wanting to engage in conversation with me, but I choke because I just find it too difficult to notice social cues, and it's very uncomfortable to leave my social comfort zone. I'm afraid to go to the doctor and know for sure because of what I might hear, and fear of being judged.
@ShokanPrince812 Not all Schizo-effective disorders apply hallucinations or delusions.
Someple may have quirks about them (doesn't everybody!) but Schizophrenia will effect different people in different ways. The person I know who is diagnosed with it is well aware of the stigma surrounding the name and will NOT say something that isn't true and he can prove.
Usually theres nothing abnormal about his behavior but stress can exaserbate some of the negative symptoms.
Very true man you 100% right some people are just to stupid to know that could happen to anyone but this is a good video i got a family member who got schi
zophrenia its very hard sometime when they believe in something its not truth but people need to learn how to treat them
If it was a brain disease then it would have a medical cause and not be label schizophrenia. People get labeled with schizophrenia purely on behavior nothing else. People can and do recover without medications. The people on medication, 2/3 will be disabled by the medication.
Thanks papi for this great video showing support for those of us living with Schizophrenia. I have Schizoaffective Disorder a mix of Schizophrenia and Bi Polar II in my specific case and it can be very challenging at times. I will watch the video with Josh just as well. Thanks a million for the love and support to those of us who are living with this very difficult Brain Disorder.
The worst part of the disease for me is that people are scared of me. I have had a very good recovery since 1983 but have a spacey look to my eyes I think scares people who don't know me.. Severe concentration problems and starey look to my eyes, other wise I feel solid. Good friends are better than meds in my opnion for all but the most sick.
@999Atwood I have plenty of friends who know me & understand my problem. I am very together now & pretty normal. I was more scattered in the 1980's. I feel very good now but my spacey look is noticeable so strangers wonder what is up with me & probably think I'm on drugs or something. I can see the illness in photos of my self ...in my eyes. Outside of working to concentrate during conversation I feel pretty much back to normal, as I was before 1983, the year I graduated high school.
and i dunno im afraid of schizos honestly.. because i got attacked by one.. kicked really hard and had a bruise for a month so ive learned to avoide the crazys but
im friends with a shiczo sure he takes his meds.. just learned to avoide people not on their meds.. just not be around them its not safe i dunno
illness is illness and thats a good thing to say nalts ;) Im not crazy right?
i would tell u bout the real me but the government would probably jack my money lol
@trinity00matrix00 I love that closing line. :) Yes I think that's the sad thing... if they're treated they're very often able to socially integrate. But when they resist treatment or aren't able to access it, bad things can happen that create stigma about their disease.
@westin1985 im not all that sure to be honest i onyl just recently found out about it mum told me they are divorced because of the way dad would treat her when he was in hes bad mood. he is not on medication far as i know and he dosent talk to me about it . it is a reacurring gene in our family and is usually triggered from smoking marijuana thats what help cause it with me dad.
@zacstarnze I have read about marijuana activating schizophrenia if someone is already genetically prone. That was a surprise to me. I thought that was a myth by the anti-pot movement.
I'm sure we look at it as different because it's so mysterious, we still don't know what causes it, we don't even know the psych meds' mechanisms of action for certain. so we think of the diseased behavior as the person. plenty of research states it's not about chemical imbalances after all. too much mystery :(
Another thought....there is NO cure. There IS remission..which is a recovery of sorts. My ex was in remission when we met, but his sisters sudden death, and his dad's death 3 months later, put him back down a sad spiral. He later became, in his senior years, what is referred to as a burned out schizophrenic, meaning he was what could pass as cured..til the end of his days...he came across as a friendly, somewhat eccentric old guy.
@MissPickletoes Important distinction- no cure yet, but it can be kept in check. Never heard "burned out" before, but I guess that's a good thing. I'd rather be eccentric than feared.
It is shocking how many roads the schzophrenia diagnosis can take a person down. My late ex had it....(not the reason we divorced by the way) and the worst he had was choirs singing in his head..which he hummed along to! ;-)
Yet a former neighbor had it, and wound up killing himself on a beach after believing he was the reincarnation of the apostle Paul. It is a cruel disease, and certainly not the fault of the sufferer.
@MissPickletoes That's a sad story. And to your point about the diagnosis being so loaded... I wonder if more people don't have it, but doctors are afraid to label someone with the diagnosis?
@unclenalts Exactly. There is such a horrifying stigma attached to the disease. And there is no definitive 'test' to be done.It is simply done based on symptoms...and one odd observation that most all schizophrenics have larger ventricles(the space inside the brain where the fluid flows).But that does not always apply. I looked out for my ex til the end...but not all schizophrenics are as lucky. I worried about my son,as he stood a chance of inheriting it. But he is now 35 and is healthy.
What a great video Nalts. You are really funny, but also, I just love your heart and I can see that the woman's words really got to you. Thanks for putting this out there. I'm sure that this has gotten people thinking about mental illness and will educate themselves, if nothing out of pure curiosity. Blessings Nalts :)
@T4Tyson What moved me more than the woman's comment was meeting Josh. About 1 in 10 kill themselves, so it's so amazing to see someone with the courage to not just keep moving... but help others.
When I was 16 I was diagnosed with a Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). People who are diagnosed with this disorder are known as attention seekers. I have had doctors tell me that every things I do is fake and that there is nothing wrong with me. In all reality I suffer every day with thoughts of self harm and suicidal thought. Some days I am fine other days I just want to lay in a corner and cry. I am now 21 and living life with my disorder. :)
What's you motive for talking about schizophrenia? Are you in with the drug companies now? Don't listen to the doctor's BS. They just want to pump people full of drugs so they rip them off. Doctors will see you as long as someones footing the bill. It doesn't mean they will do anything for ya. Maybe mess you up worse. The thing doctors don't tell you is that they don't know how to treat schizos. Sure doctors act all smart. Its an act.
@westin1985 Sorry about your experience with docs. I am working for a company that makes meds, and I hope you find a doctor that is less motivated by money and more to helping you.
@unclenalts You sound like a drug advertisment. So how did you hook up with this company and what is your job or what are they paying you for? Are you advertising their product?
Doctors are motivated by money. They don't do all the hard work to become a doctor to spend their life doing charity work and being poor. They are out to make money. Thats just the way the system works. Doctors have priorites and the patient is down the list.
Thank you Nalts, my wife has schizophrenia that I live with everyday. The last few years have been great, but there has been times she is very hard to live with.
They believe what they think is reality and no matter how much you show/prove them wrong, they can't see it.
They way we (me and the kids) deal with it is to not get confrontational, that does not solve anything. Sometimes it is best to just let it go. Usually those thought just disappear, or she just stops talking about them.
i've been a mental health professional for a long time and it's always bothered me to hear the misuse of the term. i love that you took the time to address this.
also it's important to stop calling people "schizophrenic". they are people with an illness called "schizophrenia." calling them "schizophrenic" makes it sound like the disease is defining the person entirely, which is just not true.
thanks for the info about the documentary - i'll check it out!
i think that schizophrenia is a thinking disorder. drugs definitely reduce some of the symptoms, but i think the root of the problem could be helped by cognitive psychotherapy - because i believe it's a thinking disorder. (just a personal guess. ive only taken a freshman psych course, so I cant claim ive studied mental illnesses)
@CQVFilms Well some sicknesses show physical signs even more (for instance rashes or eating dissorder). Would you be able to tell Ashley from the documentary had schizophrenia? I wouldn't.
Thank you for this. I am sick of the stigma around mental illnesses. I have met many schizophrenics in my life and most of them are functional, nice people. I myself have major depression that will probably never go away and get stigmatized so I can't imagine what it would be like to have to live with schizophrenia.
@TheHollz I can't imagine it either. I do hope you're wrong about your depression never going away. I'm hopeful we'll see solutions emerge with all of the new ways to scan the brain and treat.
@unclenalts `I hope so too. Thanks for responding! One schizophrenic I knew once drank an entire cup of scalding hot coffee blistering his throat because the voices in his head were telling him to throw it on the waitress and he didn't want to. It's so sad that someone so good has such a horrible disease.
@TheHollz Schizophrenia is a jouney that shows you how the mind works. Normal people take so much stuff for granted. Normal people are not aware of how their mind works. I would say a lot of doctors are clueless as well. Sure they know the general text book stuff. Too learn the mind you look at the people that are messed up. Serious professional reseachers do this. Doctors don't. Doctors are taught how to medicate people by the drug companies. The genius doctor is not seeing patients.
I can tell you what its like..its like being "The Boogie-Man"
Not many people are aware of what it means.
A beautiful mind is a good exploration of of rising above such adversity while the "prequil" part of something like the Halloween re-make of 2007 could be an extreme example of someone consumed by it.
Many feel that early childhood environmental factors (mainly dysfunctional in most aspects) play an important role in the development of such an illness.
Im glad you brought that up. While my 1st ex and I don't get along, she was later diagnosed as schizophrenic after her 3rd husband really screwed her up on drugs - and of course she had some issues prior to that but the drugs exacerbated those issues 10 times over. She seemed more happy when treated - but she would get into thinking she didn't need the medication anymore and in and out of it all the time. I feel for her, just wish she would maintain her meds regularly.
@ImTheDaveman This is news to me... I didn't know medication ever helped "10 times over." To be honest, I don't know how much a difference medication makes relative to other things (like counseling, support, etc).
@unclenalts all I know is she was relatively fine till her 3rd ex husband got her screwed up on illegal drugs. Now (when not being treated) she has imaginary friends and the conversations with those unseen friends are more scary than they are strange. I dont know what kind of medication she's on, but it seems to keep her on calm, chilled out and the imaginary friends go on vacation until she stops taking her medication Then they come back and she becomes very scary. She cant help it though.
thank you for the information on this documentary. i am going to watch it. i still don't understand why most people are afraid to talk about mental illnesses, nor do i understand those who deny that such illnesses could possibly exist. one guy i knew even said that people with serious psychological problems were "lazy" and that these people should just "work harder" and then they would be completely fine.
I don't see any reason you'd get penialized for discussing a mental illness. I think awareness is a good thing, espeacially when its common pop culture to classify ones idiosyncrasies incorrectly. :)
@MisterBedHeadShow In fact, in youtube itself, I've found it interesting how some behaviors in the arts are considered a talent where in other walks of life one would be carted away to a hospital. lol
I do enjoy these little ponderings of yours, I think you may have something with this, to bad this is just another ploy. (Your dog stroking gave you away)
Good video. And I agree, we do look at mental illnesses differently, and often at the folks affected by them less sympathetically, than we do physical infirmities.
I wish I could have been able to go to the partner meeting. :(
Any "Invisible" disease is hard to understand. Sometimes being a SockPuppet is Hard. The HARDEST thing is to Not judge someone by their behavior or actions (Unless it's criminal.)
Like kids and Dogs, it's the behavior that can be "Good" or "Bad", not the dog or kid.
@unclenalts Paranoia is a state of hightened awareness. Most people are so dumbed down they really don't think to hard about stuff that goes on around them. Example. Yea the food companies are out to poison people. Kind of a harsh statement at first. They wouldn't do that. Oh yes they would and they do. Their job is to produce food in large quanities and make money from it. They don't eat it. Kind of like a drug pusher. He will sell his product but he won't use it. This is how schizos think.
@unclenalts At times im scared i go straight into my room when i get home incase dads in hes bad mood its not all that bad except if hes in a real bad mood he will go ballistyx and crack it at me over nothing .
swearing and absusing me hes a really good dad nether the less just if hes in his bad mood as ive stated heaps haha its not good . :(
@zacstarnze How long has he had it? Is he playing the doctor game(seeing one doctor after another)? Did any other illness cause it? How is he dealing with it? Do they have him heavily medicated? What does he tell you about his problems?
Yay for you Uncle Nalts! The more I learn about the vast complexities and capabilities of the brain the more I am amazed. Shedding our preconceived notions about anything is a challenging thing to do but stepping back and looking at things from another perspective is an awesome first step. Thanks for the video.
Dear Uncle Nalts. One can be avuncular without being an uncle. Likewise one can be schizophrenic without having schizophrenia. To say that a person is schizophrenic is entirely different from diagnosing that person with the mental disorder of schizophrenia. 0:48 If you are quoting the African American correctly than you are criticizing her comment incorrectly.
@FantasticBabblings Awesome isn't it? Any other famous people, or "ordinary" ones doing interesting things? Like chefs, artists, firefighters? I know they're out there... and I'd love to get them seen.
Does the research you look at look into how substance abuse can cause this? I won't get into it here, but I knew a 17 year old kid that fell 24 floors to his death as well as a family member of my boss that we have been trying to help for over 20 years without success. From what I understand about schizophrenia... I am of the believe that it can be triggered by substance abuse.
@TammyFlores1 I recently learned that drug use (which is common) CAN increase the chances of schizophrenia, but there needs to be a genetic propensity for this to occur. It's sad that the onset for men is often during a challenging time... college.
@unclenalts Here's something else I will share... hope it helps. I lost my younger brother 1 1/2 years ago. It is one of the most heart wrenching experiences for any family, that is trying to "get help" when their loved one is obviously mentally ill. When addiction issues are present you get so many "schools of thought" that can leave you bitter (if you choose that) when your loved one succumbs to the sickness.
Good timing on this video. My son has some "mental diseases" ADHD, ODD, and several anxiety disorders. His hockey coach asked me..." when is that kid going to give me a break..." I asked him if he yelled at kids with mobility issues to run faster or climb that seemingly endless rope in the gym? He couldn't make the connection. It was sad. If you're not bleeding or in a wheelchair..or wearing a straight jacket, you're just not sick. G.
@Gump1147 Isn't it difficult to be patient with people that lack understanding or empathy? It takes a lot of courage to explain it to them... doing it with patience and a calm voice usually works better (because they tend to reinforce their existing views). Kinda like when the PETA people were in my face about Hamster video, but one SPCA woman spoke to me gently and I removed it because I was able to understand her concerns.
@unclenalts I usually lose my patience and tell them how narrow minded and foolish they look and sound. I find that educators (son's coach is a School Principal) like to pigeon-hole people? Did I just pigeon-hole them? HA! Take that system. G.
You are so real. Do you have some one close to you who has schizophrenia? I have similar video on my channel.
swiyyahnm 2 months ago
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Hey guys. I'm battling from schizophrenia. I'm not asking for money or views or anything, but just for support and for people to hear me out. My psychiatrist said to let people know about your problem, but everyone thinks I'm weird and my family cannot understand or take me seriously. I made a blog about my problems, and I hope we can talk on there. My blog is battlingschizophrenia.blogspot.com . Fellow schizophrenics, you should also come. We can fight the battle together.
jaco0bx 2 months ago
it seems to me that he has a disorder that made him fall in love with that dog... lol
ElMasacote2010 3 months ago
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Hey guys. I'm battling from schizophrenia. I'm not asking for money or views or anything, but just for support and for people to hear me out. My psychiatrist said to let people know about your problem, but everyone thinks I'm weird and my family cannot understand or take me seriously. I made a blog about my problems, and I hope we can talk on there. My blog is battlingschizophrenia.blogspot.com . Fellow schizophrenics, you should also come. We can fight the battle together.
jaco0bx 3 months ago
Very good video, I really appreciate it. We need more awareness about mental health in general. I do have one problem with people, not just this nice man, saying "schizophrenia is not multiple personality disorder and it doesn't mean you're violent." While that is true, that statement sounds like people with D.I.D. (multiple personality disorder) are being put down & portrayed as crazier or weirder than schizophrenics, when said in that context. But that's just my interpretation.
AmazingMonkeyQueen 3 months ago
@AmazingMonkeyQueen "crazier" and "weirder" should be in quoatations. I do not actually use those terms when speaking of mental illness.
AmazingMonkeyQueen 3 months ago
I think I'm schizophrenic. Many people don't believe me, but I haven't seen a doctor yet to know for sure. I don't have hallucinations, but all the negative symptoms are present. I've had people wanting to engage in conversation with me, but I choke because I just find it too difficult to notice social cues, and it's very uncomfortable to leave my social comfort zone. I'm afraid to go to the doctor and know for sure because of what I might hear, and fear of being judged.
ShokanPrince812 6 months ago
@ShokanPrince812 Not all Schizo-effective disorders apply hallucinations or delusions.
Someple may have quirks about them (doesn't everybody!) but Schizophrenia will effect different people in different ways. The person I know who is diagnosed with it is well aware of the stigma surrounding the name and will NOT say something that isn't true and he can prove.
Usually theres nothing abnormal about his behavior but stress can exaserbate some of the negative symptoms.
78futura1 6 months ago
Very true man you 100% right some people are just to stupid to know that could happen to anyone but this is a good video i got a family member who got schi
zophrenia its very hard sometime when they believe in something its not truth but people need to learn how to treat them
njpapigreeneyes26 6 months ago
If it was a brain disease then it would have a medical cause and not be label schizophrenia. People get labeled with schizophrenia purely on behavior nothing else. People can and do recover without medications. The people on medication, 2/3 will be disabled by the medication.
SCHIZOIDSUNITED 8 months ago
DUDE ARE YOU HIGH!! (look at your eyes)
please...
milma13120 8 months ago
Thanks papi for this great video showing support for those of us living with Schizophrenia. I have Schizoaffective Disorder a mix of Schizophrenia and Bi Polar II in my specific case and it can be very challenging at times. I will watch the video with Josh just as well. Thanks a million for the love and support to those of us who are living with this very difficult Brain Disorder.
soymiguelalejandro23 8 months ago
"I'll probably get in trouble for making this video" haha That's Nalts!
I think maybe we look at mental disabilities differently because sometimes they come with awkward social implications?
godrox 8 months ago
Great video Nalts. Very enlightening.
TheBellaTenenbaum 8 months ago
@unclenalts yeah thats what has brought it up with him
zacstarnze 8 months ago
@moomay1949 So there's hope for all of us, right?
unclenalts 8 months ago
The worst part of the disease for me is that people are scared of me. I have had a very good recovery since 1983 but have a spacey look to my eyes I think scares people who don't know me.. Severe concentration problems and starey look to my eyes, other wise I feel solid. Good friends are better than meds in my opnion for all but the most sick.
999Atwood 8 months ago
@999Atwood It must be frustrating to walk around and have people afraid of you. How do you manage that?
unclenalts 8 months ago
@999Atwood I have plenty of friends who know me & understand my problem. I am very together now & pretty normal. I was more scattered in the 1980's. I feel very good now but my spacey look is noticeable so strangers wonder what is up with me & probably think I'm on drugs or something. I can see the illness in photos of my self ...in my eyes. Outside of working to concentrate during conversation I feel pretty much back to normal, as I was before 1983, the year I graduated high school.
999Atwood 8 months ago
easier to descrminate..
and i dunno im afraid of schizos honestly.. because i got attacked by one.. kicked really hard and had a bruise for a month so ive learned to avoide the crazys but
im friends with a shiczo sure he takes his meds.. just learned to avoide people not on their meds.. just not be around them its not safe i dunno
illness is illness and thats a good thing to say nalts ;) Im not crazy right?
i would tell u bout the real me but the government would probably jack my money lol
trinity00matrix00 8 months ago
@trinity00matrix00 I love that closing line. :) Yes I think that's the sad thing... if they're treated they're very often able to socially integrate. But when they resist treatment or aren't able to access it, bad things can happen that create stigma about their disease.
unclenalts 8 months ago
I'm Crazy! And I love it.
koppadasao 8 months ago
You been crying, nalts? Your eyes look red in this.
DrAlexisOlson 8 months ago
@DrAlexisOlson Early morning! :)
unclenalts 8 months ago
i couldn't stop looking at freddy's eyes rolling back!
Cashew115 8 months ago
@westin1985 im not all that sure to be honest i onyl just recently found out about it mum told me they are divorced because of the way dad would treat her when he was in hes bad mood. he is not on medication far as i know and he dosent talk to me about it . it is a reacurring gene in our family and is usually triggered from smoking marijuana thats what help cause it with me dad.
zacstarnze 8 months ago
@zacstarnze I have read about marijuana activating schizophrenia if someone is already genetically prone. That was a surprise to me. I thought that was a myth by the anti-pot movement.
unclenalts 8 months ago
I'm sure we look at it as different because it's so mysterious, we still don't know what causes it, we don't even know the psych meds' mechanisms of action for certain. so we think of the diseased behavior as the person. plenty of research states it's not about chemical imbalances after all. too much mystery :(
hollybee43 8 months ago
@hollybee43 And the research is nearly impossible to read... I've tried.
unclenalts 8 months ago
this guy looks like a faggot
johnLAndino 8 months ago
@johnLAndino Well thank you
unclenalts 8 months ago
Another thought....there is NO cure. There IS remission..which is a recovery of sorts. My ex was in remission when we met, but his sisters sudden death, and his dad's death 3 months later, put him back down a sad spiral. He later became, in his senior years, what is referred to as a burned out schizophrenic, meaning he was what could pass as cured..til the end of his days...he came across as a friendly, somewhat eccentric old guy.
MissPickletoes 8 months ago
@MissPickletoes Important distinction- no cure yet, but it can be kept in check. Never heard "burned out" before, but I guess that's a good thing. I'd rather be eccentric than feared.
unclenalts 8 months ago
It is shocking how many roads the schzophrenia diagnosis can take a person down. My late ex had it....(not the reason we divorced by the way) and the worst he had was choirs singing in his head..which he hummed along to! ;-)
Yet a former neighbor had it, and wound up killing himself on a beach after believing he was the reincarnation of the apostle Paul. It is a cruel disease, and certainly not the fault of the sufferer.
MissPickletoes 8 months ago
@MissPickletoes That's a sad story. And to your point about the diagnosis being so loaded... I wonder if more people don't have it, but doctors are afraid to label someone with the diagnosis?
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts Exactly. There is such a horrifying stigma attached to the disease. And there is no definitive 'test' to be done.It is simply done based on symptoms...and one odd observation that most all schizophrenics have larger ventricles(the space inside the brain where the fluid flows).But that does not always apply. I looked out for my ex til the end...but not all schizophrenics are as lucky. I worried about my son,as he stood a chance of inheriting it. But he is now 35 and is healthy.
MissPickletoes 8 months ago
watch "A Beautiful Mind" people. its a great movie about a schizophrenic.
Newshk00 8 months ago
@Newshk00 I really need to see that
unclenalts 8 months ago
Sorry I couldn't pay attention to this video. The voices around me kept bugging me.
theawesomestawesomer 8 months ago
I just watch the dog the whole video and hear zero words what nalts said.
nevernoone 8 months ago 2
@nevernoone He's there for precisely that purpose
unclenalts 8 months ago
: )
islandGAL7 8 months ago
What a great video Nalts. You are really funny, but also, I just love your heart and I can see that the woman's words really got to you. Thanks for putting this out there. I'm sure that this has gotten people thinking about mental illness and will educate themselves, if nothing out of pure curiosity. Blessings Nalts :)
T4Tyson 8 months ago
@T4Tyson What moved me more than the woman's comment was meeting Josh. About 1 in 10 kill themselves, so it's so amazing to see someone with the courage to not just keep moving... but help others.
unclenalts 8 months ago
When I was 16 I was diagnosed with a Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). People who are diagnosed with this disorder are known as attention seekers. I have had doctors tell me that every things I do is fake and that there is nothing wrong with me. In all reality I suffer every day with thoughts of self harm and suicidal thought. Some days I am fine other days I just want to lay in a corner and cry. I am now 21 and living life with my disorder. :)
AshleySaves2121 8 months ago
@AshleySaves2121 Congrats on your courage to keep moving.
unclenalts 8 months ago
What's you motive for talking about schizophrenia? Are you in with the drug companies now? Don't listen to the doctor's BS. They just want to pump people full of drugs so they rip them off. Doctors will see you as long as someones footing the bill. It doesn't mean they will do anything for ya. Maybe mess you up worse. The thing doctors don't tell you is that they don't know how to treat schizos. Sure doctors act all smart. Its an act.
westin1985 8 months ago
@westin1985 Sorry about your experience with docs. I am working for a company that makes meds, and I hope you find a doctor that is less motivated by money and more to helping you.
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts You sound like a drug advertisment. So how did you hook up with this company and what is your job or what are they paying you for? Are you advertising their product?
Doctors are motivated by money. They don't do all the hard work to become a doctor to spend their life doing charity work and being poor. They are out to make money. Thats just the way the system works. Doctors have priorites and the patient is down the list.
westin1985 8 months ago
Thank you Nalts, my wife has schizophrenia that I live with everyday. The last few years have been great, but there has been times she is very hard to live with.
They believe what they think is reality and no matter how much you show/prove them wrong, they can't see it.
They way we (me and the kids) deal with it is to not get confrontational, that does not solve anything. Sometimes it is best to just let it go. Usually those thought just disappear, or she just stops talking about them.
PizzaGod 8 months ago
@PizzaGod THanks for sharing. I asked Josh to tell me what I should do if someone close to me is diagnosed, and his words were simple: "love them."
unclenalts 8 months ago
i've been a mental health professional for a long time and it's always bothered me to hear the misuse of the term. i love that you took the time to address this.
also it's important to stop calling people "schizophrenic". they are people with an illness called "schizophrenia." calling them "schizophrenic" makes it sound like the disease is defining the person entirely, which is just not true.
thanks for the info about the documentary - i'll check it out!
always,
amy
ask123321 8 months ago
@ask123321 Can you imagine if we called people who had cancer "cancerists"?
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts yes great point - that just doesn't happen. let's not give anyone ideas though.... people do seem to love labels ;)
ask123321 8 months ago
i think that schizophrenia is a thinking disorder. drugs definitely reduce some of the symptoms, but i think the root of the problem could be helped by cognitive psychotherapy - because i believe it's a thinking disorder. (just a personal guess. ive only taken a freshman psych course, so I cant claim ive studied mental illnesses)
markustheaters 8 months ago
@markustheaters There are cognitive issues that present as "positive and negative" symptoms, where you see things others don't see.
unclenalts 8 months ago
Its because diseases like AIDS don't show any outward appearances like schizophrenia. You wouldn't even know.
CQVFilms 8 months ago
@CQVFilms Well some sicknesses show physical signs even more (for instance rashes or eating dissorder). Would you be able to tell Ashley from the documentary had schizophrenia? I wouldn't.
unclenalts 8 months ago
Thank you for this. I am sick of the stigma around mental illnesses. I have met many schizophrenics in my life and most of them are functional, nice people. I myself have major depression that will probably never go away and get stigmatized so I can't imagine what it would be like to have to live with schizophrenia.
TheHollz 8 months ago 6
@TheHollz I can't imagine it either. I do hope you're wrong about your depression never going away. I'm hopeful we'll see solutions emerge with all of the new ways to scan the brain and treat.
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts `I hope so too. Thanks for responding! One schizophrenic I knew once drank an entire cup of scalding hot coffee blistering his throat because the voices in his head were telling him to throw it on the waitress and he didn't want to. It's so sad that someone so good has such a horrible disease.
TheHollz 8 months ago
@TheHollz Schizophrenia is a jouney that shows you how the mind works. Normal people take so much stuff for granted. Normal people are not aware of how their mind works. I would say a lot of doctors are clueless as well. Sure they know the general text book stuff. Too learn the mind you look at the people that are messed up. Serious professional reseachers do this. Doctors don't. Doctors are taught how to medicate people by the drug companies. The genius doctor is not seeing patients.
westin1985 8 months ago
@TheHollz
I can tell you what its like..its like being "The Boogie-Man"
Not many people are aware of what it means.
A beautiful mind is a good exploration of of rising above such adversity while the "prequil" part of something like the Halloween re-make of 2007 could be an extreme example of someone consumed by it.
Many feel that early childhood environmental factors (mainly dysfunctional in most aspects) play an important role in the development of such an illness.
78futura1 6 months ago
I don't see why J&J would have a problem with this. It's honest, and respectful. (not like that Gilbert Godfrey incident that got him fired)
apb148 8 months ago
@apb148 They probably won't be upset. Merck would have been I think.
unclenalts 8 months ago
Im glad you brought that up. While my 1st ex and I don't get along, she was later diagnosed as schizophrenic after her 3rd husband really screwed her up on drugs - and of course she had some issues prior to that but the drugs exacerbated those issues 10 times over. She seemed more happy when treated - but she would get into thinking she didn't need the medication anymore and in and out of it all the time. I feel for her, just wish she would maintain her meds regularly.
ImTheDaveman 8 months ago
@ImTheDaveman This is news to me... I didn't know medication ever helped "10 times over." To be honest, I don't know how much a difference medication makes relative to other things (like counseling, support, etc).
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts all I know is she was relatively fine till her 3rd ex husband got her screwed up on illegal drugs. Now (when not being treated) she has imaginary friends and the conversations with those unseen friends are more scary than they are strange. I dont know what kind of medication she's on, but it seems to keep her on calm, chilled out and the imaginary friends go on vacation until she stops taking her medication Then they come back and she becomes very scary. She cant help it though.
ImTheDaveman 8 months ago
thank you for the information on this documentary. i am going to watch it. i still don't understand why most people are afraid to talk about mental illnesses, nor do i understand those who deny that such illnesses could possibly exist. one guy i knew even said that people with serious psychological problems were "lazy" and that these people should just "work harder" and then they would be completely fine.
yakisueba 8 months ago
@yakisueba That's got to be as bad as the illness... people thinking it's your fault
unclenalts 8 months ago
I don't see any reason you'd get penialized for discussing a mental illness. I think awareness is a good thing, espeacially when its common pop culture to classify ones idiosyncrasies incorrectly. :)
MisterBedHeadShow 8 months ago
@MisterBedHeadShow In fact, in youtube itself, I've found it interesting how some behaviors in the arts are considered a talent where in other walks of life one would be carted away to a hospital. lol
I do enjoy these little ponderings of yours, I think you may have something with this, to bad this is just another ploy. (Your dog stroking gave you away)
MisterBedHeadShow 8 months ago
@MisterBedHeadShow True dat yo. And what did you mean by ploy? If I was onto something diabolic I'd have been shaven head and petting a cat.
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts Nice Austin Powers reference! lol
MisterBedHeadShow 8 months ago
@MisterBedHeadShow It's just touchy because medication promotion is so regulated. That's why I didn't mention any products
unclenalts 8 months ago
2:34
*kisses dog*
ERRRRRRRRM
Randomstuffs261 8 months ago
I just wish healing and health to all!!
jantheempress 8 months ago
Good video. And I agree, we do look at mental illnesses differently, and often at the folks affected by them less sympathetically, than we do physical infirmities.
aikitherese 8 months ago
I wish I could have been able to go to the partner meeting. :(
Any "Invisible" disease is hard to understand. Sometimes being a SockPuppet is Hard. The HARDEST thing is to Not judge someone by their behavior or actions (Unless it's criminal.)
Like kids and Dogs, it's the behavior that can be "Good" or "Bad", not the dog or kid.
KiddsockTV 8 months ago
@KiddsockTV I LOVE that quote about behavior versus people
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts You can Use it!! <3
KiddsockTV 8 months ago
NALTS! <3
seneson 8 months ago
Very good reason to get back into pharmaceutics, Kevin, and thank you for making this video! :)
- Jason
crimsong19 8 months ago
@crimsong19 Thanks for the encouragement Jason!
unclenalts 8 months ago
My dads got schizophrenia btw im from aus :(
zacstarnze 8 months ago
@zacstarnze What's it like? Being the son of someone living with schizophrenia?
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts Paranoia is a state of hightened awareness. Most people are so dumbed down they really don't think to hard about stuff that goes on around them. Example. Yea the food companies are out to poison people. Kind of a harsh statement at first. They wouldn't do that. Oh yes they would and they do. Their job is to produce food in large quanities and make money from it. They don't eat it. Kind of like a drug pusher. He will sell his product but he won't use it. This is how schizos think.
westin1985 8 months ago
@unclenalts At times im scared i go straight into my room when i get home incase dads in hes bad mood its not all that bad except if hes in a real bad mood he will go ballistyx and crack it at me over nothing .
swearing and absusing me hes a really good dad nether the less just if hes in his bad mood as ive stated heaps haha its not good . :(
zacstarnze 8 months ago
@zacstarnze How long has he had it? Is he playing the doctor game(seeing one doctor after another)? Did any other illness cause it? How is he dealing with it? Do they have him heavily medicated? What does he tell you about his problems?
westin1985 8 months ago
Yay for you Uncle Nalts! The more I learn about the vast complexities and capabilities of the brain the more I am amazed. Shedding our preconceived notions about anything is a challenging thing to do but stepping back and looking at things from another perspective is an awesome first step. Thanks for the video.
PattHagenbuch 8 months ago
@PattHagenbuch The brain is a trip, isn't it? A nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there.
unclenalts 8 months ago
Dear Uncle Nalts. One can be avuncular without being an uncle. Likewise one can be schizophrenic without having schizophrenia. To say that a person is schizophrenic is entirely different from diagnosing that person with the mental disorder of schizophrenia. 0:48 If you are quoting the African American correctly than you are criticizing her comment incorrectly.
CrappyCartoons 8 months ago
@CrappyCartoons Great point. How do I clarify?
unclenalts 8 months ago
John Nash (A Beautiful Mind) is schizophrenic and managed to win a Nobel Prize in Economics. Pretty high functioning.
FantasticBabblings 8 months ago 2
@FantasticBabblings Awesome isn't it? Any other famous people, or "ordinary" ones doing interesting things? Like chefs, artists, firefighters? I know they're out there... and I'd love to get them seen.
unclenalts 8 months ago 2
Does the research you look at look into how substance abuse can cause this? I won't get into it here, but I knew a 17 year old kid that fell 24 floors to his death as well as a family member of my boss that we have been trying to help for over 20 years without success. From what I understand about schizophrenia... I am of the believe that it can be triggered by substance abuse.
TammyFlores1 8 months ago
@TammyFlores1 I recently learned that drug use (which is common) CAN increase the chances of schizophrenia, but there needs to be a genetic propensity for this to occur. It's sad that the onset for men is often during a challenging time... college.
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts Here's something else I will share... hope it helps. I lost my younger brother 1 1/2 years ago. It is one of the most heart wrenching experiences for any family, that is trying to "get help" when their loved one is obviously mentally ill. When addiction issues are present you get so many "schools of thought" that can leave you bitter (if you choose that) when your loved one succumbs to the sickness.
TammyFlores1 8 months ago
Good timing on this video. My son has some "mental diseases" ADHD, ODD, and several anxiety disorders. His hockey coach asked me..." when is that kid going to give me a break..." I asked him if he yelled at kids with mobility issues to run faster or climb that seemingly endless rope in the gym? He couldn't make the connection. It was sad. If you're not bleeding or in a wheelchair..or wearing a straight jacket, you're just not sick. G.
Gump1147 8 months ago
@Gump1147 Isn't it difficult to be patient with people that lack understanding or empathy? It takes a lot of courage to explain it to them... doing it with patience and a calm voice usually works better (because they tend to reinforce their existing views). Kinda like when the PETA people were in my face about Hamster video, but one SPCA woman spoke to me gently and I removed it because I was able to understand her concerns.
unclenalts 8 months ago
@unclenalts I usually lose my patience and tell them how narrow minded and foolish they look and sound. I find that educators (son's coach is a School Principal) like to pigeon-hole people? Did I just pigeon-hole them? HA! Take that system. G.
Gump1147 8 months ago
The guy below me is totally a troll. TROLBERT!
Evansmustard 8 months ago
@Evansmustard yep
magemarshy 8 months ago
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magemarshy 8 months ago