@PvtPackman Like Cheetok1ng470: can your KWA shoot 250+ feet accurately? Can your kwa be a 600 fps, semi only DMR today, and then a 300fps, 45 rps cqb monster tomorrow? Does your kwa have trigger response that surpasses that of a systema? NO. All of these the polarstar can do. Not to mention it's lack of moving parts means it'll be still running perfect even after a Tokyo Marui breaks down. And about the cold and other issues, polarstar didn't ignore them, you're just too lazy to look it up.
Until they can figure out how to get a co2 tank in a buffer tube a nice regulator and expansion chamber in an m4 pistol grip or wherever it may fit, you might a well play paintball
@seanio1998 It uses an electric control module (aka, trigger and mosfet) with using HPA (high pressure air) stored in a tank; instead of compressing the air by means of a piston and cylinder.
@bobiana289 Do you know what a classic gun is? They were replaced far and wide by AEGs due to simplicity and reliability issues. I think these things are super impractical because you have to lug around some air tank the whole game, which can be hard if you dont have some kind of chest rig.
P.S. You are welcome. Thanks for returning the courtesy.
@tumortim666 Yes the air tank could present itself as a problem but, need i speak of paintball. It has many many fans and players even so they have to carry a HPA or Co2 tank.
@bobiana289 Kind of a difference, at least to me. Whereas the air tank is rigid, and screws in to a solid metal piece, this uses a hose. With the paintball gun, you have the Co2 under your arm. With an airsoft gun, it dangles if it doesn't have anything to attach to. Also, these guys never really mentioned some key issues. Is it any better than a KWA AEG ($300-$350 less)? How do they work in the cold? Things like that that they shouldn't have ignored.
@tumortim666 Some P/B markers use a hose to place the tank in a holster behind the player. Its not so much the reliability of it but the sheer innovation it presents itself as. A gearbox will always wear down regardless of the manu. or quality of the parts in it. A system based off of HPA will essentially never wear. Yes Air temperature will present itself as a minor problem but, according to my knowledge, not a big one. Also Co2 (along with all gas) cools off when expanding.
@thatghillyguy Yes you are correct, you would need a high pressure air compressor like the ones used to fill SCUBA tanks; not the compressors you can buy at your hardware store.
@bobiana289 like... household compressors can only put out 200 psi max and the hpa tanks go up to 4500psi. idk, maybe i have no idea how all that works
@tumortim666 HPA is used because it has a stable bleed of pressure and doesn't cool down like CO2 or propane. And it isn't weather sensitive. Compressed nitrogen is also common. Plus, they're about as simple as actual guns. Many owners don't strip their AEGs - almost all paintballers strip their markers.
@bobiana289 i don't think CO2 really has a cool off effect since it goes straight from a gas to solid? i know the canisters get cold, but since CO2 needs really cold temps to change from a gas there wouldn't be a noticeable cool off effect, right?
@jabooper The cooling is not caused by the evaporation to a gas in this case, but instead because of the increasing volume of gas with the same amount of energy. The expanding gas, as a whole, has the same amount of energy as the compressed gas, but now the energy is dispersed about more space.
@Khoonda88 We're on the same page right? I'm talking about how the gun tends to cycle slower when you go full auto. With CO2 this wouldn't happen since CO2 sublimes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the gas start to condense when you rapid fire it?
@jabooper Well, yeah, it does happen with CO2, but it is only noticeable with small containers. The tanks you would for this would retain gas at pressures around
2,000 - 3,000 psi, which maintain a stable output pressure. It would need to be a considerable amount of cooling for it to decrease the rate of fire. This cooling, however, is not from it condensing (can't happen), nor from it being able to skip a liquid state.
So unless you play in wheather less than 0def c (freezing point of water, as seen on Co2 tanks when fired) you should be good. Although I'm not a physicist I'm not sure of the compression drop between Co2 and oxygen (plus the impurities in the atmosphere) compared to the temperature drop.
@tumortim666 I would say because, you're turned off by the sight of a hose that's attached to the Compressed air tank but it will run a lot more smoother with it's set up.
@tumortim666 can your KWA shoot 250+ feet accurately? Can your kwa be a 600 fps, semi only DMR today, and then a 300fps, 45 rps cqb monster tomorrow? Does your kwa have trigger response that surpasses that of a systema? NO. All of these the polarstar can do. Not to mention it's lack of moving parts means it'll be still running perfect even after a Tokyo Marui breaks down. And about the cold and other issues, polarstar didn't ignore them, you're just too lazy to look it up.
@cheetok1ng470 I detect high levels of mad coming from your computer. I was merely stating this seems gimmicky and I will wait until someone else makes a non-m4 one. Also, AEGs dont have to contend with that big-ass air rig. If I wanted to lug around one of those thing I would play paintball.
@tumortim666 well you could buy the fusion engine and put it in any v2 gearbox gun...just saying...but ya i agree with you about the air tank; although I have heard it is barely noticeable; atleast compared to lugging around co2 cans for a paintball gun all day.
@SNOWSKIJUNKY Got to play against one of those, and while it is nasty, it is too tempermental for my taste. It broke at least twice. Ill wait until it becomes more common/cheaper.
@Gmod10man a crosman costs $100, and it's shit compared to a kwa, cause there's a $300 price difference, and a kwa is cheaper than a polarstar, but the polarstar shits on kwa just like kwa shits on crosman.
@CaptainFysh Lol wut? You do know that's just what it shoots out of the box right? You can turn it up to about 30 or so just by flipping a switch. If you know anything about electronics then you can make it shoot 70-100. Also, on the fly change of FPS and ROF, that will never break is a lot better than a million moving parts that can break really easily.
@MrMonkekekeMan depends on how you tune it. Out of the box it shoots 20rps, and I know most high caps can still keep up to at least 25rps. If you max it out in stock form at 30rps, you may want to stick with midcaps, but I think most people are not going to turn it up that high.
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its a paintball gun in airsoft form! its attached to an air tank... JUST like PAINTBALL. No offence to paintballers but when i started airsoft it was to get away from the paintball tanks. now airsoft is going like paintball and paintball is going towards the real looking weapons... what the heck is going on?
Thays sick its like paintball and airsoft combined but mostly airsoft i like the airsoft guns and bbs but i like the power of co2 and paintball style gearbox or fusion motor
this is not revolutionary. i thought if it was pneumatic, maybe it was completely air powered, kinda like g&gs pneumatic blowback system, but the whole firing mechanism is powered by that. that would be too hard though as it would take lots of air. but as i was saying, thats not revolutionary, its actually a dowgrade to airsoft.
@futurerev21 Its electronic solenoid so its actually more efficient than any aeg, gbbr, out there. Read up on it and get educated, you'll find that it is quite evolutionary and offers many tangible advantages over an aeg.
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I would love this if it didn't have such a high FPS. Most fields don't allow anything over 400 FPS, so when you have constant 405 and the occasional 450, then you can't use it.
If your an AIRSOFT fan than send a letter to the senate of california to kill the bill...
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@SCCrusaders those were .2g These use standard TM mags/barrels/hop up bucking/etc. But high caps are not the best when you have it set to like 30bps cause it cant keep up but mids should work
why is everyone whining about a little air hose that goes back to a backpack? there's no dead batteries, barely any moving parts, much easier cleaning/maintenance, a completely adjustable fps/rps.....there is no problem here. one tiny con for a handful of great pros. this system is the most complete airsoft system soon-to-be on the market. i'll take an air hose for versatility any day.
@MP5rules I don't get it? Where did the extra $400 come from. You get the system for 450-650 depending on drop in or complete gun. An air rig(with tank) is typically $150. And air refills are like $0-5. Compare to running a high stress gun, modified gun. Assume base gun is $400, Upgrade parts are, say around $200, Battery and LiPo Charger~$120, Tag on a high-end mosfet to give some programability(no where near as extensive as the fusion though)- Thats around $100.
@btrules Then factor in Parts Failure due to regular use, and overall? Your aeg is equal to, or higher than the price tag of a complete pr-15. The results of that high-end/stress AEG build? A gun with limited versatility(A fusion user can go sniper--pointman-rifleman, all in a couple of minutes), limited efficiency, and limited programing potential. Lets not forget limited endurance(those repair costs will add up quick).
@mchlmacdonald But what happens when you run out of gas? With gas you have to go to a place that can refill gas tanks then you have to pay to refill it. At least with a battery you can recharge it anywhere with an outlet and cost no money.
@squidvis Most paintball fields charge you $0-5 for a refill. Basically, if you can afford a bag of BB's. You can afford air. If not, go find a scuba shop. Same thing.
I don't think any airsoft company in their right mind would develop a rifle capable of 1000+ fps (can you imagine the lawsuits?) not to mention that after you go past around 1100fps your bbs will break the sound barrier when they fire, making them extremely inaccurate.
@CraigTehAwesome Wait for Polar Star's upcoming products... they WOULD be the one to add the ridiculous hopper to an airsoft gun and call it innovation.
@INSAN3LUIS That first shoot is a side effect from connecting the gun and turning the gas on. when ever you turn on any kind of flow there is an initial surge than it normalizes.
yes i do, in 20 min i can take apart my whole gearbox and put it back together. and i don't use GBB rifles only pistols so i wouldn't want a gun like that. also, i like to have two primaries and i wouldn't be able to do that with that gun. regular airsoft guns are more maneuverable and switchable very quickly. yes, that gun system has a crazy rate of fire but u don't need it. one bb will kill your enemy. and regular guns probably cost a lot less too.
@PROUDsk8er Too bad your wrong. Its not like paintball at all. It functions just like a normal AEG, but with instant trigger responce and adjustable ROF and muzzle energy. If your referencing the hose, you need to pull your head out of your 'you know what' and try something new for once. I've been using External guns for a while now and the hose is actually less cumbersome than a sling. Not only that, but the inventors, are airsofters that happen to work at an engineering company.
@motocrossgunner the strait fact that the gun needs an air tank is stupid. yes it has instant trigger response but y carry a tank around wen u can make a regular airsoft gun shoot super fast with upgrades without the tank? and u can ajust regular airsoft guns to ur desired velocity also with up/down graded springs.also, real guns dont need tanks or hoses, therefore making it less realistic. if i wanted to be carrying around a tank, id play paintball.
@PROUDsk8er You dont have to run such a visible hose. If realism is what your worried about, you can run a strait line though your sleeve and nobody will ever see it. The fact is, AEGs have so many moving parts that are put under stress that they will never be anywhere near as reliable as this system. I'm not saying its indestructible, but if its anything like the old BV guns, it has the potential to run for hundreds of thousands if not millions of rounds before haveing issues.
@PROUDsk8er You can complain about the tank, but the fact is, you will never find a gas gun that doesn't have cool down unless it has an external regulated air source. Also, AEGs are nowhere NEAR as tunable as this system is. Ya, you can spend an afternoon swapping springs, motors, shimming gears, or you can play around with a little computer and your regulator for 20min.
@motocrossgunner Escort system is basically the same but its alot more realistic, yes I'l admit the reocil will throw your aim off a bit, but that's what happens.
@kullwarrior The ESCORT system is completely different than this. The only thing in common is the external air tank. This Polstar rifle is not blowback, and uses a modified solenoid while ESCORTs use an odd, but very ingenious design where air is conserved. It uses the same air that blows back the bolt to expel the BB. I can send you a moving diagram of the ESCORT system and show you pictures of the Polstar internals if you would like. just send me a message me.(this goes for anyone interested)
@bugboy357m The complete gun MSRP is set at $650, and the drop in kits are going to be set at $450. Different models will be more expensive as you start looking into nicer models.
Yeah, we get it. It's a similar system to what was used in the beginning of airsoft history. But no, it's not the exact same thing, and yes it is quite ingenious innovation. If all of the naysayers would take just a few minutes of their time to search up the glorious workings of this amazing product, maybe they would dump their old rusty greased up monster and realize that the one they've been looking for all along is right here in front of them. BTW, Congrats Polar Star Airsoft. Keep rockin.
Or just buy a KWA with a lipo
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@PvtPackman Like Cheetok1ng470: can your KWA shoot 250+ feet accurately? Can your kwa be a 600 fps, semi only DMR today, and then a 300fps, 45 rps cqb monster tomorrow? Does your kwa have trigger response that surpasses that of a systema? NO. All of these the polarstar can do. Not to mention it's lack of moving parts means it'll be still running perfect even after a Tokyo Marui breaks down. And about the cold and other issues, polarstar didn't ignore them, you're just too lazy to look it up.
SuomiBroadcast 1 week ago
this is paintball
ITRider720 1 month ago
@ITRider720 ITS AIRSOFT
acfjames 1 month ago
@ITRider720 your a dumbass
pawningdude 3 weeks ago
Until they can figure out how to get a co2 tank in a buffer tube a nice regulator and expansion chamber in an m4 pistol grip or wherever it may fit, you might a well play paintball
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NOW YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE!!
BruceJBCpaintball 3 months ago
what exactly is electropneumatic
seanio1998 5 months ago
@seanio1998 paintball internals essentially
larkin540 5 months ago
@seanio1998 It uses an electric control module (aka, trigger and mosfet) with using HPA (high pressure air) stored in a tank; instead of compressing the air by means of a piston and cylinder.
bobiana289 5 months ago
Greatest innovation in Airsoft history besides hopup.
bobiana289 6 months ago
@bobiana289 I disagree. This thing is way overpriced and really impractical.
tumortim666 5 months ago
@tumortim666 I agree with it being overpriced, but so was the computer when it was developed for home use. But how do you say its impractical?
Ps: Thank You for being civil, unlike some other YouTube members.
bobiana289 5 months ago
@bobiana289 Do you know what a classic gun is? They were replaced far and wide by AEGs due to simplicity and reliability issues. I think these things are super impractical because you have to lug around some air tank the whole game, which can be hard if you dont have some kind of chest rig.
P.S. You are welcome. Thanks for returning the courtesy.
tumortim666 5 months ago
@tumortim666 Yes the air tank could present itself as a problem but, need i speak of paintball. It has many many fans and players even so they have to carry a HPA or Co2 tank.
bobiana289 5 months ago
@bobiana289 Kind of a difference, at least to me. Whereas the air tank is rigid, and screws in to a solid metal piece, this uses a hose. With the paintball gun, you have the Co2 under your arm. With an airsoft gun, it dangles if it doesn't have anything to attach to. Also, these guys never really mentioned some key issues. Is it any better than a KWA AEG ($300-$350 less)? How do they work in the cold? Things like that that they shouldn't have ignored.
tumortim666 5 months ago
@tumortim666 Some P/B markers use a hose to place the tank in a holster behind the player. Its not so much the reliability of it but the sheer innovation it presents itself as. A gearbox will always wear down regardless of the manu. or quality of the parts in it. A system based off of HPA will essentially never wear. Yes Air temperature will present itself as a minor problem but, according to my knowledge, not a big one. Also Co2 (along with all gas) cools off when expanding.
bobiana289 5 months ago
@bobiana289 Super-cooling is your problem though. Plus why is it better than an AEG? I can take apart my KWA and replace every part easily.
tumortim666 5 months ago
@tumortim666 Its better than an AEG (in my opinion):
1) less moving parts (less to break) essentially no wear, Ie: gears, piston
2) not draining a battery as much, if you have an air compressor you can refill your HPA
3)Able to adjust your FPS with a valve
4) I think it sounds more realistic.
bobiana289 5 months ago
@bobiana289 Ok that's cool. I just don't feel I play enough to justify that. My batteries will be fine for me. Thanks for the civil discussion!
tumortim666 5 months ago
@tumortim666 I don't play enough to drop $400.00 on just a gearbox either, but its still (In my mind, a great innovation).
bobiana289 5 months ago
Thank you. :)
bobiana289 5 months ago
@bobiana289 It's basically a paintball gun that fires BBs.
John234pwns 4 months ago
@John234pwns Yup kinda, obviously has a number of different parts and build but yes pretty much it when put short.
BruceJBCpaintball 3 months ago
@bobiana289 but wait, i thought compressed air tanks for these require a lot more pressure than most compressors can put out...
thatghillyguy 1 month ago
@thatghillyguy Yes you are correct, you would need a high pressure air compressor like the ones used to fill SCUBA tanks; not the compressors you can buy at your hardware store.
bobiana289 1 month ago
@bobiana289 Yeah i read up on filling them with scuba tanks
thatghillyguy 1 month ago
@bobiana289 like... household compressors can only put out 200 psi max and the hpa tanks go up to 4500psi. idk, maybe i have no idea how all that works
thatghillyguy 1 month ago
@tumortim666 HPA is used because it has a stable bleed of pressure and doesn't cool down like CO2 or propane. And it isn't weather sensitive. Compressed nitrogen is also common. Plus, they're about as simple as actual guns. Many owners don't strip their AEGs - almost all paintballers strip their markers.
John234pwns 3 months ago
@bobiana289 i don't think CO2 really has a cool off effect since it goes straight from a gas to solid? i know the canisters get cold, but since CO2 needs really cold temps to change from a gas there wouldn't be a noticeable cool off effect, right?
jabooper 1 month ago
@jabooper The cooling is not caused by the evaporation to a gas in this case, but instead because of the increasing volume of gas with the same amount of energy. The expanding gas, as a whole, has the same amount of energy as the compressed gas, but now the energy is dispersed about more space.
Khoonda88 1 month ago
@Khoonda88 We're on the same page right? I'm talking about how the gun tends to cycle slower when you go full auto. With CO2 this wouldn't happen since CO2 sublimes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the gas start to condense when you rapid fire it?
jabooper 1 month ago
@jabooper Well, yeah, it does happen with CO2, but it is only noticeable with small containers. The tanks you would for this would retain gas at pressures around
2,000 - 3,000 psi, which maintain a stable output pressure. It would need to be a considerable amount of cooling for it to decrease the rate of fire. This cooling, however, is not from it condensing (can't happen), nor from it being able to skip a liquid state.
Khoonda88 1 month ago
So unless you play in wheather less than 0def c (freezing point of water, as seen on Co2 tanks when fired) you should be good. Although I'm not a physicist I'm not sure of the compression drop between Co2 and oxygen (plus the impurities in the atmosphere) compared to the temperature drop.
bobiana289 5 months ago
@bobiana289 My question is why not, but why?
tumortim666 5 months ago
@tumortim666 I would say because, you're turned off by the sight of a hose that's attached to the Compressed air tank but it will run a lot more smoother with it's set up.
BruceJBCpaintball 3 months ago
@tumortim666 can your KWA shoot 250+ feet accurately? Can your kwa be a 600 fps, semi only DMR today, and then a 300fps, 45 rps cqb monster tomorrow? Does your kwa have trigger response that surpasses that of a systema? NO. All of these the polarstar can do. Not to mention it's lack of moving parts means it'll be still running perfect even after a Tokyo Marui breaks down. And about the cold and other issues, polarstar didn't ignore them, you're just too lazy to look it up.
cheetok1ng470 4 weeks ago
@cheetok1ng470 I detect high levels of mad coming from your computer. I was merely stating this seems gimmicky and I will wait until someone else makes a non-m4 one. Also, AEGs dont have to contend with that big-ass air rig. If I wanted to lug around one of those thing I would play paintball.
tumortim666 4 weeks ago
@tumortim666 well you could buy the fusion engine and put it in any v2 gearbox gun...just saying...but ya i agree with you about the air tank; although I have heard it is barely noticeable; atleast compared to lugging around co2 cans for a paintball gun all day.
SNOWSKIJUNKY 1 week ago
@SNOWSKIJUNKY Got to play against one of those, and while it is nasty, it is too tempermental for my taste. It broke at least twice. Ill wait until it becomes more common/cheaper.
tumortim666 1 week ago
@cheetok1ng470 does my KWA cost $600? no, so fuck off.
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cheetok1ng470 2 weeks ago
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@Gmod10man a crosman costs $100, and it's shit compared to a kwa, cause there's a $300 price difference, and a kwa is cheaper than a polarstar, but the polarstar shits on kwa just like kwa shits on crosman.
In airsoft, you get what you pay for
cheetok1ng470 2 weeks ago
Only 21 for that price? Pfft. Weak. :D Nice enough system, but I'll stick to teching AEGs.
CaptainFysh 6 months ago
@CaptainFysh Lol wut? You do know that's just what it shoots out of the box right? You can turn it up to about 30 or so just by flipping a switch. If you know anything about electronics then you can make it shoot 70-100. Also, on the fly change of FPS and ROF, that will never break is a lot better than a million moving parts that can break really easily.
Gannon191 6 months ago
@CaptainFysh You can adjust the rate of fire, it'll shoot up to at least 45 rps, it could go faster but no mags will feed.
cheetok1ng470 4 weeks ago
What was he doin with his mouth when he stopped firing? 0_o
ThatChairsofter 6 months ago
@ThatChairsofter it looked like he was moving it ? im not a rocket scientist but thats what it looks like. moron
nuclearfish010 6 months ago
@nuclearfish010 Ok if you want to be an asshole about it fine
ThatChairsofter 6 months ago
@ThatChairsofter you asked
nuclearfish010 6 months ago
will it loose consistency and power in the cold and after you shoot it too much or is it like an air battery? :D
0mgwtfbbq21 8 months ago
@0mgwtfbbq21 I own one. No it will not loose consistency or power in the cold because high pressure is unaffected by temperature.
btrules 7 months ago
@btrules So your saying I can throw a bottle of propane in my stove?
r2323r23 7 months ago
@r2323r23 Go ahead. Tell me how the explosion goes.
btrules 7 months ago
They should include a high cap mag with this...
MrSpartan341 8 months ago
@MrSpartan341 most high caps cant keep up
MrMonkekekeMan 8 months ago
@MrMonkekekeMan depends on how you tune it. Out of the box it shoots 20rps, and I know most high caps can still keep up to at least 25rps. If you max it out in stock form at 30rps, you may want to stick with midcaps, but I think most people are not going to turn it up that high.
motocrossgunner 8 months ago
If only this gun had a blowback
Wontonwabledoo 8 months ago
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i got the chance of meeting Bob at sc viper behind the airsoft gi tent. He complimented me on my tri shot shotgun!!!!!!!! Like this so that he can recognize my post and say hi!!
whitechocolate220 9 months ago
wait.... paintball co2 powered rifle?..... co2?.... rifle!..... will it blend?
smeagle9999 10 months ago
if i had an aeg that would shoot 800F like that i would shoot the people in the park behind my house they make too much noise early in the morning
FourtySven 10 months ago
@FourtySven and you are the reason why SB798 was proposed
spritegamer 8 months ago
@spritegamer
i live in canada and i dont own a weapon
obviosly
FourtySven 8 months ago
@FourtySven You're part of the reason that SB798 may pass. Airsoft is not a toy.
mrreview34 8 months ago
@mrreview34
how am i part of the reason i dont even own any toys faggot
FourtySven 8 months ago
its a paintball gun in airsoft form! its attached to an air tank... JUST like PAINTBALL. No offence to paintballers but when i started airsoft it was to get away from the paintball tanks. now airsoft is going like paintball and paintball is going towards the real looking weapons... what the heck is going on?
MChauSD 10 months ago
that is dirty. in a good way.
freakinawesome153 10 months ago
nice Nerf Kill shirt
eyedie500 10 months ago
Who the hell would want to maneuver around with a tank of air on their back? Cool idea but not practical in my view...
TheAirsoftgroup 10 months ago
@TheAirsoftgroup it's 2-3 pounds. It can fit in a mag pouch or in your back pack. You never notice it.
Gannon191 6 months ago
@TheAirsoftgroup there are tons of paintballers that do this all the time me included
halobs 1 day ago
Thays sick its like paintball and airsoft combined but mostly airsoft i like the airsoft guns and bbs but i like the power of co2 and paintball style gearbox or fusion motor
20mm1 10 months ago
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Too unrealistic. No real m4 needs at hose and a tank to operate. Go back to the drawing board and make a self contained unit,
g36cLover 10 months ago
thats a pretty sweet idea. it would be really cool to see if polar star could bring it into production, for a reasonable cost.
pumasoccerguy 10 months ago
NERF KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
superninga12 10 months ago
this is not revolutionary. i thought if it was pneumatic, maybe it was completely air powered, kinda like g&gs pneumatic blowback system, but the whole firing mechanism is powered by that. that would be too hard though as it would take lots of air. but as i was saying, thats not revolutionary, its actually a dowgrade to airsoft.
futurerev21 10 months ago
@futurerev21 Its electronic solenoid so its actually more efficient than any aeg, gbbr, out there. Read up on it and get educated, you'll find that it is quite evolutionary and offers many tangible advantages over an aeg.
btrules 10 months ago
@btrules Its actually not as bad as you would think. you forget its even there very quickly
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago
i want that so bad
tastim5 10 months ago
Vote against Senate Bill 798 in California it aims to make all Airsoft guns clear bodied or or colorful bodied. Stop this bill through facebook or any other way. Save Airsoft
warhippie8 10 months ago
Theres Bob lookin like a BOSS
MacTubeProductions 10 months ago
could be a nice alternative to lipo?
0mgwtfbbq21 10 months ago
I would love this if it didn't have such a high FPS. Most fields don't allow anything over 400 FPS, so when you have constant 405 and the occasional 450, then you can't use it.
cardfan212 10 months ago
@cardfan212 you can change the fps from 315 to 600
cheetok1ng470 4 weeks ago
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California Senate Bill 798!!!
If your an AIRSOFT fan than send a letter to the senate of california to kill the bill...
your asking what this bill is well it makes all airsoft gun a neon color and thats gay and you might be thinking california? ahh i live in virgina this wont affect me...OH but it will as u see alot of retailers are in california and you cant buy from big companies plus if California wins than other states will be influenced and maybe the world Copy&Paste to every airsoftVID
TheGreenteawithmilk 10 months ago
now thats a powerful gearbox
cyrus8617 10 months ago
@cyrus8617 not a gearbox. Its Polar Star's Fusion Engine.
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago 2
I'd rather not carry around an air tank when I play airsoft.
NotTheFaceBro 10 months ago
So... when can we will the gun be production?
ronz706 10 months ago
lol was i only one to see his nerf kill shirt?
crazybassplayer1 10 months ago
I dont like having to carry a gas tank around with me the entire time with a tube going into the gun. I think it'll feel weird.
SteamedRice123 10 months ago
as long as this thing wont be more than 400 bucks i am going to get one
BloodBrothersAirsoft 10 months ago
@BloodBrothersAirsoft $650
OutlawAirsoftPA 10 months ago
@OutlawAirsoftPA That's the full gun. The FE is only 400.
Gannon191 6 months ago
airsoftgi,
so ive looked up this gun and it looks like I can get it to 450 fps at 40 rps. is it true with the one you will be selling
bennythepenny9 10 months ago
@bennythepenny9 nope that was just for testing purposes. Youll be able to get 450 FPS with 30 rps though
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago
@MrMonkekekeMan
so how much will it cost then?
bennythepenny9 10 months ago
@bennythepenny9 just the Fusion engine itself has an MSRP of $450 and the PR-15 is $650
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago
@MrMonkekekeMan thats expensive
bennythepenny9 10 months ago
Just out of curiosity who is going to buy this? I am :p
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago
@CraigTehAwesome They are hoppers plain and simple the only difference is the what direction they feed from.
protogenxl 10 months ago
@CraigTehAwesome What do you call Hi-caps and C-Mags?
protogenxl 10 months ago
They should just use an 80 gram co2 tank and but it in the buffer tube.
LittlePyroMakeBoom 10 months ago
What was the weight of the BB he was shooting? .20g?
Also, Do you have to use "Polar Star" Magazines? If so, How much do they hold, How much are they?
SCCrusaders 10 months ago
@SCCrusaders You can use aeg magazines
btrules 10 months ago
@SCCrusaders those were .2g These use standard TM mags/barrels/hop up bucking/etc. But high caps are not the best when you have it set to like 30bps cause it cant keep up but mids should work
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago
Step 1:press 9 repeativly.
Step 2:LOL
EagleEyeAirsoftM4 10 months ago
so you don't use a batter for this right?
ajr1213 10 months ago
best t-shirt ever...
EagleEyeAirsoftM4 10 months ago
how much???????????
stpaul17 10 months ago
If they can further prototypes and make it self contained, easily rechargeable, with no line coming out then i would consider it.
Rawls03 10 months ago
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I want to know more about this GUN!!!
Imetalman2000 10 months ago
why is everyone whining about a little air hose that goes back to a backpack? there's no dead batteries, barely any moving parts, much easier cleaning/maintenance, a completely adjustable fps/rps.....there is no problem here. one tiny con for a handful of great pros. this system is the most complete airsoft system soon-to-be on the market. i'll take an air hose for versatility any day.
mchlmacdonald 10 months ago 2
@mchlmacdonald how bout adding an extra 400 bucks in price and extra gas plus tanks?
MP5rules 10 months ago
@MP5rules I don't get it? Where did the extra $400 come from. You get the system for 450-650 depending on drop in or complete gun. An air rig(with tank) is typically $150. And air refills are like $0-5. Compare to running a high stress gun, modified gun. Assume base gun is $400, Upgrade parts are, say around $200, Battery and LiPo Charger~$120, Tag on a high-end mosfet to give some programability(no where near as extensive as the fusion though)- Thats around $100.
btrules 10 months ago
@btrules Then factor in Parts Failure due to regular use, and overall? Your aeg is equal to, or higher than the price tag of a complete pr-15. The results of that high-end/stress AEG build? A gun with limited versatility(A fusion user can go sniper--pointman-rifleman, all in a couple of minutes), limited efficiency, and limited programing potential. Lets not forget limited endurance(those repair costs will add up quick).
btrules 10 months ago
@mchlmacdonald But what happens when you run out of gas? With gas you have to go to a place that can refill gas tanks then you have to pay to refill it. At least with a battery you can recharge it anywhere with an outlet and cost no money.
squidvis 10 months ago
@squidvis Most paintball fields charge you $0-5 for a refill. Basically, if you can afford a bag of BB's. You can afford air. If not, go find a scuba shop. Same thing.
btrules 10 months ago
@squidvis here is the estimated gas efficiency.
3000 psi 48cu tank, running @ 110psi (avg. 400 fps w/ .2g) = approximately 1,440 shots
4500psi 50cu tank, running @ 110psi (avg. 400 fps w/ .2g) = approximately 2,250 shots
4500psi 88cu tank, running @ 110psi (avg. 400 fps w/ .2g) = approximately 3,960 shots
Doy you go through 5 Hi-Caps in a game?
protogenxl 10 months ago
@protogenxl My 9.6v 1600mah firing my upgraded GR-15 Raider at ~420fps w/.23g gets around 3200 shots and I don't have to carry a tank.
squidvis 10 months ago
@squidvis u should look at polarstar's channel and see if ur gun can do that
MrMonkekekeMan 10 months ago
@squidvis Reliability is far insuperior in an AEG opposed to the HPA V.2.
OutlawAirsoftPA 10 months ago
i just want an airsoft rifle that will shoot accurate and very hard at distances of up to 800 Feet.
FourtySven 10 months ago
@FourtySven ya come back in 100 years
Peroxide014 10 months ago
@FourtySven yup very realistic
hollycow123445 10 months ago
@FourtySven Dream on man...
squidvis 10 months ago
I have a gun just like the gas rig set up ,but its a AK-105.
nTwoUS 10 months ago
will this fit in a tm based gun or do they only fit in vfc's
cccplt 10 months ago
400 fps? not bad. the gun looks sick too.
wait
WAIT WHAT
WHAT
1400 FPS
BOB WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU ARE GOING TO KILL SOMEBODY
ninetailedhollow5 10 months ago
@ninetailedhollow5 Na it says 400fps lol
I don't think any airsoft company in their right mind would develop a rifle capable of 1000+ fps (can you imagine the lawsuits?) not to mention that after you go past around 1100fps your bbs will break the sound barrier when they fire, making them extremely inaccurate.
squidvis 10 months ago
@squidvis whoops :P Stupidity on my part.
there are air guns that do shoot metal bb's and pellets over 1000 fps though
ninetailedhollow5 10 months ago
@ninetailedhollow5 Yeah but those are pellet guns used for hunting animals not airsoft guns haha
squidvis 10 months ago
Review plz
SGTSOULTAK3R 10 months ago
Nice big ass lanyard. Oh wait, it's for powering the system...
ensampojken 10 months ago
These better come out for V.3 gearboxes as well (*cough* G36 *cough*)
TheFatAssCat 10 months ago
Quit teasing! Tell us if you're gonna stock it!
ESA221 10 months ago
Fuck that gun is good and cool
Carranza069 10 months ago
nerf kill shirt <3
stgabesbball31 10 months ago 15
i want one
dominickkh 10 months ago
wait so what did they do ?
TheAirsoftManiac11 10 months ago
Nerf kill tshirt FTW!!!!!!!!!!!
bigbadbronson3 10 months ago
hahaha did you see he was speechless after shooting!!!!
theairsoftvsnerf 10 months ago 3
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NERF KILL!!!!!
rangerairsoft97 10 months ago
@CraigTehAwesome Wait for Polar Star's upcoming products... they WOULD be the one to add the ridiculous hopper to an airsoft gun and call it innovation.
Surefire273 10 months ago
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that 1st shot did not convinced me but the other ones were pretty consistent
INSAN3LUIS 10 months ago
@INSAN3LUIS That first shoot is a side effect from connecting the gun and turning the gas on. when ever you turn on any kind of flow there is an initial surge than it normalizes.
protogenxl 10 months ago
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INSAN3LUIS 10 months ago
i don't get the system, can anyone explain it. and when and for how much will this be on sale for.
DrPepperStudios 10 months ago
there bringing back the classics!!!!!!!!!!!
metalchocobo410 10 months ago
yes i do, in 20 min i can take apart my whole gearbox and put it back together. and i don't use GBB rifles only pistols so i wouldn't want a gun like that. also, i like to have two primaries and i wouldn't be able to do that with that gun. regular airsoft guns are more maneuverable and switchable very quickly. yes, that gun system has a crazy rate of fire but u don't need it. one bb will kill your enemy. and regular guns probably cost a lot less too.
PROUDsk8er 10 months ago
@Nipsofjustice still that's part of all the fun!
BushMasterScarecrow 10 months ago
Classic Airsoft w/o the blowback. :/
Daytonagun kits can do this easily, and function much better,
hockeywiz01 10 months ago
@hockeywiz01
Wrong.
Classic's are 95% BV systems.
The only (very-low) production design using a solenoid was an Asahi WA2000.
This system is far more advanced.
corkyyyyy 10 months ago 25
@Nipsofjustice thank you!! someone who uderstands that rps isnt everything!!!
PROUDsk8er 10 months ago
Wow, its finally hitting the stores.... Been following this thing FOREVER!!!!!
motocrossgunner 10 months ago
if you want to play paintball go and buy a tiberius or bt gun this is airsoft the best
lesaim773 10 months ago
that is not airsoft, all it is is a paintball gun that shoots bbs. i bet the person who invented this isnt an airsofter.
PROUDsk8er 10 months ago
@PROUDsk8er Too bad your wrong. Its not like paintball at all. It functions just like a normal AEG, but with instant trigger responce and adjustable ROF and muzzle energy. If your referencing the hose, you need to pull your head out of your 'you know what' and try something new for once. I've been using External guns for a while now and the hose is actually less cumbersome than a sling. Not only that, but the inventors, are airsofters that happen to work at an engineering company.
motocrossgunner 10 months ago
@motocrossgunner the strait fact that the gun needs an air tank is stupid. yes it has instant trigger response but y carry a tank around wen u can make a regular airsoft gun shoot super fast with upgrades without the tank? and u can ajust regular airsoft guns to ur desired velocity also with up/down graded springs.also, real guns dont need tanks or hoses, therefore making it less realistic. if i wanted to be carrying around a tank, id play paintball.
PROUDsk8er 10 months ago
@PROUDsk8er You dont have to run such a visible hose. If realism is what your worried about, you can run a strait line though your sleeve and nobody will ever see it. The fact is, AEGs have so many moving parts that are put under stress that they will never be anywhere near as reliable as this system. I'm not saying its indestructible, but if its anything like the old BV guns, it has the potential to run for hundreds of thousands if not millions of rounds before haveing issues.
motocrossgunner 10 months ago
@PROUDsk8er You can complain about the tank, but the fact is, you will never find a gas gun that doesn't have cool down unless it has an external regulated air source. Also, AEGs are nowhere NEAR as tunable as this system is. Ya, you can spend an afternoon swapping springs, motors, shimming gears, or you can play around with a little computer and your regulator for 20min.
Any other counter-arguments?
motocrossgunner 10 months ago
@motocrossgunner Escort system is basically the same but its alot more realistic, yes I'l admit the reocil will throw your aim off a bit, but that's what happens.
kullwarrior 10 months ago
@kullwarrior The ESCORT system is completely different than this. The only thing in common is the external air tank. This Polstar rifle is not blowback, and uses a modified solenoid while ESCORTs use an odd, but very ingenious design where air is conserved. It uses the same air that blows back the bolt to expel the BB. I can send you a moving diagram of the ESCORT system and show you pictures of the Polstar internals if you would like. just send me a message me.(this goes for anyone interested)
motocrossgunner 10 months ago
aproxamated price/effency?
bugboy357m 10 months ago
@bugboy357m The complete gun MSRP is set at $650, and the drop in kits are going to be set at $450. Different models will be more expensive as you start looking into nicer models.
motocrossgunner 10 months ago
press Ctrl W for HD
micksmaggot7 10 months ago 2
SWAG!
212wherezwaldo121 10 months ago
Yeah, we get it. It's a similar system to what was used in the beginning of airsoft history. But no, it's not the exact same thing, and yes it is quite ingenious innovation. If all of the naysayers would take just a few minutes of their time to search up the glorious workings of this amazing product, maybe they would dump their old rusty greased up monster and realize that the one they've been looking for all along is right here in front of them. BTW, Congrats Polar Star Airsoft. Keep rockin.
GigaMage15 10 months ago
Anyone actually familiar with both systems will know that we did not copy the RAP4.
PolarStarAirsoft 10 months ago 57
I...Want....bob's......shirt...
CPTcarlyle 10 months ago