Yo it's just me? OR NOONE REALLYISE THAT THERES A SATAN MESSEGE FROM 9:35 to 10:00 aprox... this shits reeeally creeps me out i always watch this Vods of pro korean but that makes me sick hope it was the one that upload the video and not ¨THEM¨
@kpmth00 its not that. the only reason ppl cover there faces in the audience is most of the ppl r students that skipped school n don't wanna let anyone know their there.
why did he never get ovie speed? he wuldnt have needed as many spores if he researched it. and he needed to scourge that first sair to prevent that critical mass.
If savior got a few more sunkens at that 2 hatch expo hecouldve lasted. 12 goon push out of base damn is so deadly. Pluse the storms and zealots... Gotta play it right.
the funny thing is that he could have had a great start if he just went straight passed the cannons with a ling rush 3 minutes into the game, he would have really fucked up bisus probes but i guess he didn't know that he was so open
bisu scouted him and prepared accordingly. he has a set thing he does for whatever he sees the zerg do so there is little chance of any zergling run-by of being successful. he had his probe in his base running around so he could see everything savior was doing so if he was doing something he coul d have made more cannons
forge fast expand>5-overpool. if the scouting probe sees spawning pool, 2 cannons, if he sees fast hatch/expo, nexus first. The Bisu build is quite excepted as an excellent opening against any zerg especially in a 3+ player map
Actually, apparently PvZ is their hardest matchup to learn. I'd say its pretty balanced. Its mostly that the Zergs don't really know how to play, if it seems imbalanced.
That plus, I expect more from a pro, if ur needing to go hyds like that (before toss switches to reavers) You gotta get +1 spines and at least 1 spore in each base. but he knew it would have been too hard to defend 3 expansions, thats why he didnt expo. (not enough drones made, lost too many units) Spore is also good to ward off OBS, after dts stop. So, terrible playing by savior, he thought he was playing vs an amateur.
i dunno about that, i completely agree with ur strategy but when these guys play they get so desperate with minerals that they wont 'waste' a sinlge mineral on D they dont think they criticaly need cuz they're plan is to keep the opponent busy defending which is really stupid and unrealistic and with a player like bisu iv seen many games we're he'll still DT and corsair harass while under attack, in fact thats the best time. ur right though, it would save more in the long run to amp up on D
I hate corsair harass. One of zerg's worst things to deal with.
And savior should of focused on expanding rather than taking bisu's expansion out. Bisu's mineral/gas ratio was much more than saviors, and that's not what a zerg wants.
u ar right on "imba" in a sense that terran does not have any melee type unit. they are all ranged. but that is a 2 edge sword since now we all see how they suffer from the defilers......
are you sure they are pro gamers. I mean apart from there control and there ability to use keys(which i do) they only mass. You have got to go for a combination and then mass. Lets say 24 zerglingls 12 ultras 12 lurkers 12 hydrasand then some guardians. H eshould elminate the dragoons with zerglings,zealots with ultras. and then structures with guardians. Also he packed wich is terrible with defense. Great game though
=-/ bisu (protoss) and savior (zerg) are probably the best in the world. They mass at certain times and at certain places with certain units. It's more complex then you think.
lol u wouldnt last 5 mins with either of them theres a reason they getting paid so much i mean if they werent pro gamers there wouldnt be millions of ppl watching their tournaments u idiot
This is why you have to research overlord speed, research carapace upgrades and use hordes of hydras/zerglings. Lurkers are just for base support - they are too fragile and hard to use properly when facing observers and psionic storms.
Queen parasite/ensnere, someone? It tremendously helps against corsairs, DT and zealots leg enhancements.
problem is that corsairs rape mutas, infact they were put into the expansion as a counter to mutas, but ur right, it wouldn't hurt to put up atleast two spores later in the game when u know the corsairs are coming
Su probe explorador inmortal, y su puta combinación de Dark Templars con Corsarios (DTs petando curros y construcciones mientras las aviones petan Overlords)
Its just hard for Zerg to play againist toss, cause toss got too many units good for killing them. Templar, Dts, Corsuirs, Reavers, they are specialized and good againist zergs so its hard for zerg player.
Impresive. Ig someone cant see the difference between progamers and top foreigners... here it is. How to put the cannons in the perfect way to defend that expo and with a few probes and an absolutely perfect timming he can defend the expo with a few probes lost. Or the dts movement, or the drop... absolutely amazing video. Thank you for the video wifebeater and thank you for the explain of the superfight :)
i think savior should build like...a sunken line at his choke...that way he can position all his hydra and overlords there to prevent corsairs and dark templars from rushing into his main, and he should definitely research Burrow to save his drones since Bisu doesnt have an observer near by...but anyways its easier said than done so GG...savior is still an awesome player to me, but he just needs to improve his weaknesses like all progamers :D
yeah true lol im a noob, i just watch starcraft but i rarely play, but i think what i just said is easier said than done...bisu is just too good at pvz..o_O
Umm i personally hate these gay carriers but I do think that bisu's rise as a toss player is important because there should be any dominant race in the tourneys and every race should get the same share of wins and glory.
i like savior's old build better, all he needs is spore colonies...this is the first game i saw him building a spore colony against non-reaver/corsair opening, may be hes realizing the value of spores lol
No. Last year Savior got owned by Bisu by using DTs. He only created hydras to counter it but it also comes with reavers and it destroyed him completely in the championship.
Hehe, I still don't get that. Don't Koreans (stereotyping, I know) own as many cameras as they do cell phones? If so, how come the girls are so camera shy?
it's not an anti-build if it lost anyways, lol. Anti-builds are builds that actually work against what you are trying to counter. Experimenting is different from anti-building. Savior haven't found a counter yet and is still experimenting.
sick sick sick sick sick game! the skills... THE SKILLS!
btw this is the 3rd game of the 1st round, so by now the score is actually already 1 for zerg and 1 for terran but still 0 for protoss when this is played.
Yo it's just me? OR NOONE REALLYISE THAT THERES A SATAN MESSEGE FROM 9:35 to 10:00 aprox... this shits reeeally creeps me out i always watch this Vods of pro korean but that makes me sick hope it was the one that upload the video and not ¨THEM¨
jeronimoalende 5 months ago
jaedong d best
dejfire 8 months ago
savior does not exist. His name should never be spoken aloud.
Ringoo4 8 months ago
I wouldve tried muta switch cause all the canons are at the expo. Then again, I'm no savior.
Hiijonguh 1 year ago
There should be events like this!
whooshx2 1 year ago
he should have destroyed the forge...
Krasher4ever 1 year ago
awsome probes killing hydras!!!!!!!
Junhyung5551 1 year ago
Whos better with zerg, sAviOr or JulyZerg?
TheSoulDestroyer 1 year ago
@TheSoulDestroyer jaedong
sumfattytuna 1 year ago
@sumfattytuna savior and julyzerg are legends. fuck jaedong.
iMPERiOUS 1 year ago
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f4ilp4nda 9 months ago
Whenever the camera is flashed on an audience member, they cover their faces. Do the cameramen still not realize no one wants to be on tv.
kpmth00 2 years ago
@kpmth00 its not that. the only reason ppl cover there faces in the audience is most of the ppl r students that skipped school n don't wanna let anyone know their there.
artty132 1 year ago
why did he never get ovie speed? he wuldnt have needed as many spores if he researched it. and he needed to scourge that first sair to prevent that critical mass.
OMGTaters 2 years ago
this is superfight??? ¬¬
lobito100 2 years ago
bisu stays so calm even though hes being rushed.
CsAnnihilationII 2 years ago
8:44 announcer screams when ovie dies
MaxEm87 2 years ago
so many ifs.. wonder if u can stand to bisu's way w/o getting badly beaten on all effing sides
BisuDMan 2 years ago
If savior got a few more sunkens at that 2 hatch expo hecouldve lasted. 12 goon push out of base damn is so deadly. Pluse the storms and zealots... Gotta play it right.
raymanlegy 2 years ago
cuz obviously savior doesnt know how to play starcraft and you should be in korea coaching pro players...amirte?
JAFrk 2 years ago
you finally noticed?
raymanlegy 2 years ago
ssb is right
the map isnt nemesis, its geometry
evilfatsh1t 2 years ago
Damn, this line up is rape.
helbovine 2 years ago
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sanghyune89 2 years ago
lol @ 6:36 that poor girl couldn't watch the gateway being attacked.
StarCraftWhore 2 years ago 2
Nah, she just did not want her face shown on the screen.
waseatenbyagrue 2 years ago
um, shes hiding from the camera, nt though
JAFrk 2 years ago
savior lost as soon as his hydra rush failed imo
abramsantana 2 years ago
nah same amount of expos, the game still is goin
l00seg00tyh0les 2 years ago
yea but a two base protoss is ahead of a two base zerg
abramsantana 2 years ago
the funny thing is that he could have had a great start if he just went straight passed the cannons with a ling rush 3 minutes into the game, he would have really fucked up bisus probes but i guess he didn't know that he was so open
Sandy8Candy 2 years ago
he couldnt have.
bisu scouted him and prepared accordingly. he has a set thing he does for whatever he sees the zerg do so there is little chance of any zergling run-by of being successful. he had his probe in his base running around so he could see everything savior was doing so if he was doing something he coul d have made more cannons
MattNicholson7 2 years ago
forge fast expand>5-overpool. if the scouting probe sees spawning pool, 2 cannons, if he sees fast hatch/expo, nexus first. The Bisu build is quite excepted as an excellent opening against any zerg especially in a 3+ player map
JAFrk 2 years ago
cannon def? yes plz, this is where my years of tower defense skillz comes to play
quantitine 2 years ago
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when did photon canons have such a far range!
Hobo312 3 years ago
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P is so strong against Z, hope they fix that in sc2
Mendelevium146 3 years ago
Actually, apparently PvZ is their hardest matchup to learn. I'd say its pretty balanced. Its mostly that the Zergs don't really know how to play, if it seems imbalanced.
SSdraken 3 years ago
well, not really, just that Zerg takes more unit combination as opposed to single unit type counters.
Boom8612 3 years ago
bisu owns man
arvenlord 3 years ago
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toss is cheap and too powerful against zergs
that was what happen to me
HotRedMello 3 years ago
then ur noob, pvz is ez mode man.
arvenlord 3 years ago
Then, i advice u to check jaedong gaming play in zvp, i think i never saw him losing vs Bisu. take and learn from him ^^
Lionfronthenorth 2 years ago
haha jaedong has lost to bisu many times and jaedong is best in ZvZ and ZvT so pretty bad example
nuRLE 2 years ago
Savior was WAY too aggressive on bisu's expansion that had cannons.
orochimaruisugly 3 years ago
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cuteluiz 3 years ago
That plus, I expect more from a pro, if ur needing to go hyds like that (before toss switches to reavers) You gotta get +1 spines and at least 1 spore in each base. but he knew it would have been too hard to defend 3 expansions, thats why he didnt expo. (not enough drones made, lost too many units) Spore is also good to ward off OBS, after dts stop. So, terrible playing by savior, he thought he was playing vs an amateur.
surrealmax3 3 years ago
i dunno about that, i completely agree with ur strategy but when these guys play they get so desperate with minerals that they wont 'waste' a sinlge mineral on D they dont think they criticaly need cuz they're plan is to keep the opponent busy defending which is really stupid and unrealistic and with a player like bisu iv seen many games we're he'll still DT and corsair harass while under attack, in fact thats the best time. ur right though, it would save more in the long run to amp up on D
Sandy8Candy 2 years ago
Bisu's corsairs really fuck you up if your zerg.
I hate corsair harass. One of zerg's worst things to deal with.
And savior should of focused on expanding rather than taking bisu's expansion out. Bisu's mineral/gas ratio was much more than saviors, and that's not what a zerg wants.
If p expos, zerg expos twice.
orochimaruisugly 3 years ago
Protoss...Zerg....PROTOSS....ZERGG....why dosen't anyone like the terran?
Armortidge 3 years ago
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cause terran are imbalanced, the siege tanks are too overpowered
arvenlord 3 years ago
wtf.. they are overpowered? how so?
TheHOBOnextDOOR 3 years ago
u ar right on "imba" in a sense that terran does not have any melee type unit. they are all ranged. but that is a 2 edge sword since now we all see how they suffer from the defilers......
mistyken 2 years ago
except for firebats
blazingedge2907 2 years ago
unlike zealots and lings, there is some "range" to firebat....
also firebat has explosive type dmg, meaning when they run into ultralisk, they ar open for slaughter.....
mistyken 2 years ago
I don't think firebat is affected by the cloud that blocks all ranged units
blazingedge2907 2 years ago
they are not, and that crap about ultralisks is not true, ultralisks just have alot of health, that is all
quantitine 2 years ago
agreed
blazingedge2907 2 years ago
thats why they rape.... also their armor is like +5 if fully upgraded
krnassassin 2 years ago
its not, i know for a fact
Sandy8Candy 2 years ago
... Every heard of Boxxer?
jingu3 2 years ago
nope.. not really.. that name reminded me of The Emperor though.
mammalk 2 years ago
both my heros in the same game
cuttyflam 3 years ago 2
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are you sure they are pro gamers. I mean apart from there control and there ability to use keys(which i do) they only mass. You have got to go for a combination and then mass. Lets say 24 zerglingls 12 ultras 12 lurkers 12 hydrasand then some guardians. H eshould elminate the dragoons with zerglings,zealots with ultras. and then structures with guardians. Also he packed wich is terrible with defense. Great game though
korea1888 4 years ago
=-/ bisu (protoss) and savior (zerg) are probably the best in the world. They mass at certain times and at certain places with certain units. It's more complex then you think.
Sovonk 3 years ago 14
uhh jeadong is #1 overall lol savior i am not sure about
krnassassin 2 years ago
rofl u moron
frozenreddy 3 years ago
lol u wouldnt last 5 mins with either of them theres a reason they getting paid so much i mean if they werent pro gamers there wouldnt be millions of ppl watching their tournaments u idiot
yothedro 3 years ago 2
weird how you have the balls to critic the best in the world when you are obviously nowhere near their level of play
frozenfridge 3 years ago 2
yea
arvenlord 3 years ago
This is why you have to research overlord speed, research carapace upgrades and use hordes of hydras/zerglings. Lurkers are just for base support - they are too fragile and hard to use properly when facing observers and psionic storms.
Queen parasite/ensnere, someone? It tremendously helps against corsairs, DT and zealots leg enhancements.
gswzero 4 years ago
yes but defilers are so much more effective at pro level play, sairs rape queens also
abramsantana 2 years ago
i don't understand why more zerg don't go for spore colonies to counter the bisu build.
i geuss the corsiars could go for disruption web, but by the time that happens, you can kill the corsiars with lisk+mutas
bullbunnies 4 years ago
Spores arent effective. It will need to be at least 3 to be useful. If you invest early on spore it will affect your economy.
inhuman216 3 years ago 2
problem is that corsairs rape mutas, infact they were put into the expansion as a counter to mutas, but ur right, it wouldn't hurt to put up atleast two spores later in the game when u know the corsairs are coming
Sandy8Candy 2 years ago
Hay dos cosas que me excitan de Bisu:
Su probe explorador inmortal, y su puta combinación de Dark Templars con Corsarios (DTs petando curros y construcciones mientras las aviones petan Overlords)
Algún día jugaré como él :D
Protoss RuLz!!!
blankluna 4 years ago 2
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sorry am wrong she put the dark templar sword in her ass
milodon316 4 years ago
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bisu is the most gay in the world and put his keyboard inside her ass
milodon316 4 years ago
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bisu is a gay,he play with her ass and put the dark templar sword inside his ass
milodon316 4 years ago
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bisu is gay. hes just lucky cuase the real pros have gone gay. so stop getting cocky u gay bisu
Demolasha 4 years ago
u call bisu gay? look at u idiot somebody must sucked the shit out of yo brain. grow up kid.
kshnelson 4 years ago 24
The map is not nemesis but geometry...
bwdtoss 4 years ago 4
bisu is just good, he uses his dts and corsairs well. and what happened with scourges? he should have made some
noobishforc3 4 years ago 2
bisu wins regardless of what enemy does.
kirbyman1kanden7pf 4 years ago
DAMN!!! That final attack was unstoppable no matter who was playing. Savior has got to stop being so cocky and change his strategies.
sidchuownz 4 years ago
noooo SaViOr =(=(=(
bloodLLL 4 years ago
savior was good but bisu was just too good...
but bisu sucks against terr
MakersofHeaven 4 years ago
Bisu's record against Terrans is about 60%. his record versus zerg is about 66%.
Bisu isn't weak versus any race.
HaXxorIzed 4 years ago
Its just hard for Zerg to play againist toss, cause toss got too many units good for killing them. Templar, Dts, Corsuirs, Reavers, they are specialized and good againist zergs so its hard for zerg player.
youbooyou 4 years ago
rines and meds chew through almost everything the zerg throw at them.
Mass lurks is a slight prob, or plagued svs
insanepanda 4 years ago
Impresive. Ig someone cant see the difference between progamers and top foreigners... here it is. How to put the cannons in the perfect way to defend that expo and with a few probes and an absolutely perfect timming he can defend the expo with a few probes lost. Or the dts movement, or the drop... absolutely amazing video. Thank you for the video wifebeater and thank you for the explain of the superfight :)
BLRMalcolm 4 years ago
Bisu is king of canon
MonoMohrovo 4 years ago
protoss are good haev great power but,
a early zergling rush would pwn them
dualitymaggot 4 years ago
i think savior should build like...a sunken line at his choke...that way he can position all his hydra and overlords there to prevent corsairs and dark templars from rushing into his main, and he should definitely research Burrow to save his drones since Bisu doesnt have an observer near by...but anyways its easier said than done so GG...savior is still an awesome player to me, but he just needs to improve his weaknesses like all progamers :D
bloodLLL 4 years ago
there would b no point in that since bisu can just keep rushing down lmao =)
XxFinalFantacyxX 4 years ago
yeah true lol im a noob, i just watch starcraft but i rarely play, but i think what i just said is easier said than done...bisu is just too good at pvz..o_O
bloodLLL 4 years ago
awh man.... gg. Bisu is good.
relmege 4 years ago
savior mus hate bisu so much lol
powerkickass 4 years ago
Koreans equal win. Anyways, if I learned Japanese, I would be complete.
hohohojae 4 years ago
Protoss rock!!
Manuelosqi 4 years ago
wow toss
johnross456 4 years ago
bisu is amazing
dltmdwns 4 years ago
Bisu = bad ass. Savior lost 3-0 to him in MSL and now again? Savior's days are over.
douche007 4 years ago
Umm i personally hate these gay carriers but I do think that bisu's rise as a toss player is important because there should be any dominant race in the tourneys and every race should get the same share of wins and glory.
UndeadIsHax 4 years ago
shut up babo nu jealouis ya that nu hangu an ya shekie na hangu ya
harman443 4 years ago
=[
i wish theyd put subtitles for the commenterys
but far good game protoss u rock!!
protoss fa lifef
lorecolten 4 years ago
awsome Hydra
C1os3d 4 years ago
Savior is too aggressive on this one. its so unlikely of him.
deathwish475 4 years ago
this is their first match since the bisu vs savior 3-0 right?
archaeln 4 years ago
DT ftw
varg42 4 years ago
i like savior's old build better, all he needs is spore colonies...this is the first game i saw him building a spore colony against non-reaver/corsair opening, may be hes realizing the value of spores lol
w3jjjj 4 years ago
No. Last year Savior got owned by Bisu by using DTs. He only created hydras to counter it but it also comes with reavers and it destroyed him completely in the championship.
deathwish475 4 years ago
great game...
akirasdad 4 years ago
ROFLMAO @ 6:38
BarneyMickoura 4 years ago
Hehe, I still don't get that. Don't Koreans (stereotyping, I know) own as many cameras as they do cell phones? If so, how come the girls are so camera shy?
DaXue 4 years ago
Koreans just don't like to stand out from the crowd.
Ryz05 4 years ago
i hate u all -.-
Lonehawk2k4 4 years ago
they r too uptite shake*
AznCoolDragon 4 years ago
they are very into Confuciousm I heard
Ryz05 4 years ago
i downloaded all the SF by torrents but this match just made me so happy.... it was so breath taking and this is how starcraft should be :D
HeroOfXanadus 4 years ago
where did you download them?
MoFoNaToR17 4 years ago
amazing :-)
VioleTAK 4 years ago
I like how Savior completely ran an anti build because he remembered how bisu likes to start (forge to early exp to sair to dts) and lost anyway.
sibladeko 4 years ago
it's not an anti-build if it lost anyways, lol. Anti-builds are builds that actually work against what you are trying to counter. Experimenting is different from anti-building. Savior haven't found a counter yet and is still experimenting.
KMC1986106 4 years ago
Great game!!!!
Toss Power
dfgd4ever 5 years ago
that corsair/dt build is a real zerg killer.
mynameistoo 5 years ago
thx
beckham1m8 5 years ago
I've been waiting for this :)
santokie 5 years ago
sick sick sick sick sick game! the skills... THE SKILLS!
btw this is the 3rd game of the 1st round, so by now the score is actually already 1 for zerg and 1 for terran but still 0 for protoss when this is played.
RamsayFan 5 years ago
1st view
1st comment
wb32 #1
mrscheng 5 years ago
O RLY?
liuwenyuan 5 years ago
yes -_-
mrscheng 4 years ago
first to watch :D
bibogrape 5 years ago
great game ;p
BarneyMickoura 5 years ago