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  • How was it good news for salmon? I think this is dam good news for fishermen!

  • @MinhonYT I think it would be good for Alaska to catch their farmed/ranched salmon and not the wild BC salmon as by-catch

  • That ain't tom cruise number 1 and we need to know who to assign blame on when the salmon are caught by commercial fisherman in the ocean, maybe we are supplying fish to other countries at a cost of millions to produce them in our river's hatcheries.

  • they should do it and c if there dragon that will be cool

  • Mala idea, poner polucion en el fondo del mar?, por las señales, podria interferir con la vida marina, ballenas delfines, etc, creo que existe mejor tecnologia, para llevar a cabo tel proyecto

  • Sounds pretty sweet! but wtf do we need to know where the fish are just leave them and they will be ok all we have to do is stop poluting the oceans....

  • I agree

  • Plus these things will add way more ocean noise making it harder for animals to echo locate and find food and mates.

  • So, what's the dam good news for salmon?

  • More do-little produce-nothing government sponsored university research jobs!

  • this is awesome.

    but tom cruise as the spokeman.

    c'mon people.

  • Love you too chris, good and mature way to show who's the better man.

  • This will compromise the sea living creatures privacy. Just because they bombed us doesn't mean that all salmon are terrorists.

  • COOL! :D only thing that u must avoid is still, that do those stuffs harm ocean, what do animal do to that machine, and if it broke, what will happen to ocean? post me ^^ I love science

  • you should set a few of these in the sacramento rice fields. thousands of adult salmon are just diverted to the drainage canals to die in the waste ponds.

  • how is this good for salmon?

  • lol was kind of why i was interested in the video to begin with myself...

  • Made for SALSEA MERGE

  • It's like throwing garbage in the ocean. Let's thnink of another way of tracking them if we really want to explore ocean life. Lets not use this because its ruining their habitat.

  • I don't think 2000 of these spread out over a 9000 mile stretch of ocean is enough for any of them to notice, let alone ruin their habitat.

  • salmon are 2 times more nutrient then beef

  • Really, sounds great! But I haven't eaten any salmon.

  • Born free

  • fuck u u idiot

  • This tracking system is for submarines.

  • wow never thought of it that way...

  • The animals have to be tagged, and I don't think anybody is going to let us tag their submarines.

  • We think...we believe... but what exactly do we know? What can we comprehend with our limited knowledge? Question your reality!

    Another humans arrogant attempt to control nature, maybe other humans, or maybe both? Don't know.

    Is it capable to do both?!

    Sure yeah!

    911-->ww3

    Get educated on crucial events of the century!!!

  • rofl "Dam good news". How about "DAMN good news".

  • Thats really bad idea.. The listening devices probably would have to produce irritating frequencies that would have a unknown effect on the wild life.. sending them insane..

  • you guys should but a few around the bermuda.

  • seriously

  • DAM = DAMN? IDIOTS.

  • Dams are a threat to Salmon, as they stop the Salmon moving upstream to their spawning grounds. I think it's a bad pun.

  • actually it's "damned"..

    as in "damned good"..

    you're right though - for a New scientist post you'd think they would spell properly... if it is a pun...it's highly unfunny.

  • that's right pollute the ocean with 3000 battery laden electronic devices. leave it

    to to the planet lovers to come up with this one.

  • Nice. Drop a few in Loch Ness...

  • he needs to have a track system first but we can find something that isnt there

  • Like what israeli?

  • about the loch ness monster it needs a tracking system of some sort in it to find to it but we cant find the monster so droping some in the lake would be pointless

  • Jippie! Big Brother society now under water too!

  • I thought Australia had drop bears. The Aussie Bee AIDS virus is a new one to me.

    The quote about human arrogance was a quotation from Spock in "The Voyage Home" where they saved the whales. So don't give Soban too much credit.

    Why do we have to track shit now? Why not just stop fucking up nature and let it take it course. It far better at managing itself than we are.

  • good decision.. I would think about such measure in nature, but I always raised difficulty of tracking earthbound finite. This eases many things many times.

  • nice, well something that tracks the **** in water would be more useful though.

  • this is a nice way of covering up a military project.

  • "this is a nice way of covering up a military project."

    Do the world a favor and spot spreading your Australian Bee AIDS virus. That way American tax payers dont have to spend billions in these types of "save the world" projects. We always have to clean of your fuck ups dont we.

  • I'm sure this is a bad idea. You're talking about littering the ocean with thousands of "slightly larger than a drinking bottle" devices. I'm no marine bioligist but aren't there creatures living on the sea-bed too? Imagine someone errecting human size versions of these on all the green spaces in the world, to see how we use parks? I'd find that pretty disruptive. I'm pretty sure this could have military uses too but i'm sure they've figured that out already.

  • Agreed. Plus doesn't the system rely on the animals being tagged? Well at least that's the impression I got from the video. Of course if this is the case then how will you catch and tag all 250,000 animals? I will be impressed if they actually manage this.

  • i think this is 3d scanning technology, they don't have to tag them, they can put a virtual tag that exactly matches what they last were scanned like, and they can predict what they'll look like as they age, so they can tell where each one is.

  • No I believe the animal must have a tag on its body.

  • You compare the intellect of marine wildlife to human beings, that is very unintelligent thinking.

  • Or is it? Human arrogance may very well be our downfall.

  • I think youre arrogant for thinking humans are arrogant.

  • Good point SobaniForce, I do agree.

  • I'm not comparing intellect. I just think we have a responsibility to protect our environment (wildlife included) and this isn't helping

  • that means only the rich will get to eat any salmon they will know were they all are and restrict all fishing in those areas except for the Elite! thats how it really works

  • fuck now even the fish will not be safe from mans tracking sys WOW! I wonder What Happens to the fish that eat those RFID chips and plastic tags some day they will find a shark with 10 thousand RFID chips inside and plastic tags

  • It's worse news for bluefin tuna if the japs get a hold of it.

  • The technology is cool i guess, but it sort of seems like a waste of money if you ask me.

  • after theyer finished tracking fishes then will be our turn for being tracked :D

  • IF!!!!!!

    we still have a world...

  • this is dam bad news for salmon!!

  • interesting. i like this narrator more.

  • agreed.

  • Yikes!!! this is so wrong. nothing can be free!?

  • Very cool demo video! What is the estimated effective operational duration for each POST?

  • Yes! Another advancement in technology that will help us go further in science.

  • who says that anymore?

    anyways, this must cost alot,just to find out aboot sea critters.

  • I do. It will also help us research other areas in science.

    "this must cost alot"

    Who cares?

  • Shouldn't science be more worried about global warming?

  • as a marine biologist i understand the importance of this survey.. and popecorkyxxiv explained it well. these scientists are smart and know what they are doing

  • Scientists are finding solutions. Businesses are the problem.

  • Multinationals have no morality and they pwn even America. This is a massive problem that could easily destroy us.

  • not even animals can escape the idea of a police state

  • They are going to need a lot of computer power to analyze all this data! Maybe they should do like nasa did on the SETI@HOME project. Use personal computers =)

  • Is that Tom Cruise narrating?

  • hahahah im sure it is xD

  • I'm wondering the same thing!

  • what I want to know is what benefit of knowing more about where fish go to humans? So we can kill them or so we can learn to live in the ocean too like the little mermaid?

  • Not quite, the reason they conduct these studies is so we can learn how to not exterminate the entire species, which result in massive destabilisations in the oceanic food web, resulting in a severe drop in fish stocks, resulting in mass starvation amoung Humans that rely on fish for food. Causality my friend, everything has a cause and every cause has at least one effect, by learning the why of causation we learn the truth of reality and our impact upon it.

  • this is awesome!!! every time I watch these things I feel inspired.

  • thts amazing

  • I'm scared.

  • Great video, hope it gets done soon so it can actually be of benefit...

  • I <3 technology.

  • Now NewScientist is turning into a TV technology documentary.

  • dude that was too cool i cant belev that

  • sounds cool. : 3

  • Woah - we could finally tell the migratory patterns of the blue whale! Nice!!

  • Great idea.

    People should wake up to the fact that what we are doing to our oceans is a much greater disaster then global warming.

    Technology will help us develop solutions to CO2 emissions, but it has generally allowed man to devistate our oceans more quickly.

    Hopefully projects like this can help make people more aware of the true ecological problem of our time; man's destruction of marine diversity.

    It doesn't come back very easily.

  • uhmmm welll you need to place alot of those coke bottles on the ocean floor to be able to track all of them....

  • 50 kilo's is a lot of room... They're probably need to make like, at a rough estimate, 20,000?

  • At least this was a good vid. Not 9 seconds of a fish swimming in circles with no explanation as to why.

  • Expect the same thing to be done with Humans!

  • With the high production values, it makes me think that some corporation is "fishing" for a govt grant to build and monitor this network.

  • VERY cool.

  • I don't get it. In order to get accurate results of the behaviour of species, won't an appropriate number of each species have to be caught and tagged? And won't that necessitate the capture and tagging of millions of specimens?

  • this could help fisher men wipe out all the fish and governments to spy on each others ships and submarines if it gets into the wrong hands

  • Lmao, you think fishermen havent been using "fish finders" for years... and we having been using underwater radar for 60 years to watch for subs?

    wake up... your doomsday ideas, have already been used..

  • your next people

  • yes another thing me and scientists have in common we both get POST

  • OTOH, we don't NEED to apply so much science to this problem. Just leave nature THE FUCK ALONE and it has a way of doing EXTREMELY WELL--without any help from people, thank you.

  • yes, we should leave it alone, but study it closely as well, since global changes can be seen in animals before they can be seen with the naked eye.

  • I loved the opening scene, where a "vaulted" feeling is created from from what it would be like under the ocean.

  • Cool, maybe they'll track people like this.

  • Underwater GPRS.....hmmm....who knows what theyll 'Detect'

  • whoa

  • my god man this is trully enspiering

  • sweet! In a few years we will be able to buy a fish from the shops and then see where he's been hanging out his whole life. :d

  • Next: tagging people!

  • The title made me lol.

  • finally came the moment when we can solve the misteries of the salmon

  • wow, expensive much?!

  • Interesting.

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