I'll always like the Canadian version most because that's the version I first saw, but the UK version has its charms, like the Dragons asking for less equity and not being so opposed to counter-offers.
The idea of the makeup applicator is a prime example of the difference between the UK and Canadian version. In canada they would have straight up told her that idea is garbage and shes a cockroach and will be swallowed whole buy the big huge makeup makers. In the UK they drag it out uneventfully for 10 minutes to achieve the same non investing result. I still ilke the UK version but deff like the Canadian version and Shark Tank much better. Better ideas, more drama, overall better TV
@96JUSTIN That's the point we're making, the Canadian version may make "better TV" but here in the UK we want a serious business focused program that you can learn more.
The reason you don't like it is because you're too used to over-dramatic TV.
I am amazed how different the UK version is to the Canadian version. The Str8ts pitch and the UNO pitch are perfect examples of how exciting this UK show could be.
Tk u for uploading, u've got a new fan in Singapore :)
I actually hv to agree with Deborah; unless the market value of the biz has leapfrogged from the time the friends invested, why should anyone (let alone a well-connected and powerful ally as a Dragon) be expected to pay so many times more?
@RedTory59 I didn't like the Canadian version too much when I watched it. One contestant pitched a type of bra and the male investors just seemed really sleazy, they were like "I WON'T INVEST IN AN EVIL PRODUCT THAT HIDES CLEAVAGE, YOU DON'T HAVE BREASTS TO HIDE THEM, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LOOK LESS HOT? *snigger snigger*." It kind of diminished the business-like atmosphere, made them seem very unprofessional. That might not be a problem for some, I just prefer the sternness we see here.
@PhelanVelvel The main difference with the canadian version and the UK version is that the canadian version has at least 1 or 2 GOOD ideas per episode...ive watched 5 episodes of the UK version now in a row and seen ONE good idea...
@redavatar You are correct. It is not made clear how far the company had progressed to value it at £200,000. Prior the initial 25% equity share of £3000 cash and £37,000 of marketing expertise, we were a very long way from what we brought to the Den. The packaged product and full order list was not shown. The Romeo Shelf began life on the back of a napkin, through determination and VERY hard work, a fully packaged (with patents pending) product, supporting website and order book was created.
@RomeoShelf - Yes, I agree with you. The most appropriate answer to the question, "How much did so and so pay for their equity stake?" from an interested investor should be "Well, that's not really relevant here, is it?", or if you are American "None of your damn business."
I'm glad they showed Duncan ripping Debra for that impertinent query after that pitch.
All that an investor needs to know is turnover, gross/net profits, NAVs, valuation, stakeholders, patents, projections, and future plans
It's very ... sneaky ... of Debra going "so why am I paying 50.000 for 25%?". It's a stupid question except she uses it to bargain a higher %. The answer is, of course: you need to get a business started and only when it has grown to a real working idea, the value goes up. It's like she'd tell Bill Gates "Well you gave 10% of Microsoft shares for just a few thousand dollars. Why would I pay a billion now?" - at least I hope she's being sly and not stupid or just wanting to be an arrogant ...
@redavatar Except of course that your example is 30 years later, while it's not clear his business has grown at all since his friends got in.
Your point is fair which is why Duncan called her out on it too, but she's right that the business isn't more valuable now than when those "stage 1" investors got in so it isn't worth a higher price.
hilary is actually good...i mean iva essen some videos of her and she behaved like a witch! with her cat! but here she is articulate and placid and intelligent....im just waiting for her to eject and fly off in that suit!
Julian Lipton was sweating like a rapist at a womens rights convention.......Julian...Put your nuts away !
Rab1802 3 days ago
The UK version is my favourite one.
crazywaffleking 1 week ago
Debra's such a grumpy ass woman! I wouldnt take her offer even if she is the last one to give it.
Duncan, Peter and Theo are the Dragons!
Faisdragon 1 week ago
why does no one give a shit about hilary?
Jairzinho121 2 weeks ago
Nathan looks like he's only 17 or 18...
hattrickster33 3 weeks ago
a cage within a cage?...INCAGETION
pewpew192 1 month ago 2
@pewpew192 lol no...
hattrickster33 3 weeks ago
Debra Meaden really irritates me ... the nerve endings aren't "right there" ...
EllysaE 1 month ago
YOUTUBE TESCO VALUE MASCARA! It is waaaaay cheaper and it works! my lashes were so long and it makes the product at 5:30 too expensive!
atomicnortherner 1 month ago
HAHAHA 33:17 "this can often lead to accidents"... *kick*....
TigerlilyPaeh 1 month ago
Pause at 55.40 and you can see the top of the girls right nipple.........I've just knocked one out!
dilwich123 2 months ago
@45.00 the guy is the bloke who does the voice for the SAW movies.
dilwich123 2 months ago
43:04 DAT ASS B)
viksra 2 months ago
UPLOAD THE RED BUTTON SEGMENTS
choochinbigtime420 3 months ago
@choochinbigtime420 shit bud, its you again ffs
AkaTheHugeMass 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Hilary Devey is far and away the best dragon!
olafolken 3 months ago
I'll always like the Canadian version most because that's the version I first saw, but the UK version has its charms, like the Dragons asking for less equity and not being so opposed to counter-offers.
whatofmeh 3 months ago
The idea of the makeup applicator is a prime example of the difference between the UK and Canadian version. In canada they would have straight up told her that idea is garbage and shes a cockroach and will be swallowed whole buy the big huge makeup makers. In the UK they drag it out uneventfully for 10 minutes to achieve the same non investing result. I still ilke the UK version but deff like the Canadian version and Shark Tank much better. Better ideas, more drama, overall better TV
96JUSTIN 3 months ago
@96JUSTIN That's the point we're making, the Canadian version may make "better TV" but here in the UK we want a serious business focused program that you can learn more.
The reason you don't like it is because you're too used to over-dramatic TV.
Conceptskatemedia 2 weeks ago
thanks from Montreal Canada
Where is that red button...
529jazz 3 months ago
lash perfection? lol theos look hahaha
chronicideas 3 months ago
I am amazed how different the UK version is to the Canadian version. The Str8ts pitch and the UNO pitch are perfect examples of how exciting this UK show could be.
ilifetouch 4 months ago
P. Jones: You are worthless.
Julian: Okay.
P. Jones: Well, you are.
Kurolchi 4 months ago 21
Tk u for uploading, u've got a new fan in Singapore :)
I actually hv to agree with Deborah; unless the market value of the biz has leapfrogged from the time the friends invested, why should anyone (let alone a well-connected and powerful ally as a Dragon) be expected to pay so many times more?
sgk9sgk9 4 months ago
What a grim affair. I much prefer the Canadian version.
RedTory59 4 months ago
@RedTory59 No kidding, the only thing missing is the manicles hanging in the background.
bluehorse888 4 months ago
@RedTory59 I didn't like the Canadian version too much when I watched it. One contestant pitched a type of bra and the male investors just seemed really sleazy, they were like "I WON'T INVEST IN AN EVIL PRODUCT THAT HIDES CLEAVAGE, YOU DON'T HAVE BREASTS TO HIDE THEM, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LOOK LESS HOT? *snigger snigger*." It kind of diminished the business-like atmosphere, made them seem very unprofessional. That might not be a problem for some, I just prefer the sternness we see here.
PhelanVelvel 3 months ago
@PhelanVelvel The main difference with the canadian version and the UK version is that the canadian version has at least 1 or 2 GOOD ideas per episode...ive watched 5 episodes of the UK version now in a row and seen ONE good idea...
96JUSTIN 3 months ago
@96JUSTIN The Canadian version sucks! It's too overly hyped and more entrainment focused than a serious business program.
Not worth watching and the US version is even more exaggerated.
Conceptskatemedia 2 weeks ago
Thanks a million from Barbados
Rahcnas64 4 months ago
Thanks from Australia
mattosulli83 4 months ago
@redavatar You are correct. It is not made clear how far the company had progressed to value it at £200,000. Prior the initial 25% equity share of £3000 cash and £37,000 of marketing expertise, we were a very long way from what we brought to the Den. The packaged product and full order list was not shown. The Romeo Shelf began life on the back of a napkin, through determination and VERY hard work, a fully packaged (with patents pending) product, supporting website and order book was created.
RomeoShelf 5 months ago
@RomeoShelf - Yes, I agree with you. The most appropriate answer to the question, "How much did so and so pay for their equity stake?" from an interested investor should be "Well, that's not really relevant here, is it?", or if you are American "None of your damn business."
I'm glad they showed Duncan ripping Debra for that impertinent query after that pitch.
All that an investor needs to know is turnover, gross/net profits, NAVs, valuation, stakeholders, patents, projections, and future plans
GCLwins 1 month ago
4:53 ... WTF is she pulling up her butt?
EviLzLiKeNeO 5 months ago
The Balcony shelf was dangerous,ugly and pointless.
dilwich123 5 months ago in playlist dilwich123's Favourited Videos
Thanks for uploading!
Pompelipom33 5 months ago 9
It's very ... sneaky ... of Debra going "so why am I paying 50.000 for 25%?". It's a stupid question except she uses it to bargain a higher %. The answer is, of course: you need to get a business started and only when it has grown to a real working idea, the value goes up. It's like she'd tell Bill Gates "Well you gave 10% of Microsoft shares for just a few thousand dollars. Why would I pay a billion now?" - at least I hope she's being sly and not stupid or just wanting to be an arrogant ...
redavatar 5 months ago
@redavatar Except of course that your example is 30 years later, while it's not clear his business has grown at all since his friends got in.
Your point is fair which is why Duncan called her out on it too, but she's right that the business isn't more valuable now than when those "stage 1" investors got in so it isn't worth a higher price.
notme222 5 months ago
Cabso, you are a champion! Thanks from Australia!
pooley1968 5 months ago
Thank you once again for uploading!
palimpsestransparent 5 months ago in playlist Videos from cabso1
34:00 - Just so people are aware. "Wherefore" means "why" not "where." So really he was saying "Dragons, dragons, why are you dragons?"
JaziB 5 months ago
hilary is actually good...i mean iva essen some videos of her and she behaved like a witch! with her cat! but here she is articulate and placid and intelligent....im just waiting for her to eject and fly off in that suit!
RaiSunil1987 5 months ago
@RaiSunil1987 You've 'essen' some videos??? Have you invented a new language as well?
TheOptimod 4 months ago
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
bealerDSB 5 months ago
Thanks once again!
AdaptronicECU 5 months ago
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I don't get to see this on TV so I really appreciate being able to watch it at home.
WannabeKiwiBoy 5 months ago
:)
thanksforyouruploads 5 months ago