@LittleHorse72 C'est ça, donc va jusqu'au bout : "Vive Lénine! Vive Staline! Vive Hitler! Vive Pol Pot! Vive Mao! Ces gens-là ont bien plus d'affinités avec l'idéologie de 1793 que tu ne le penses...
@ferdinandof2003 I'm not sure you did understand what I wrote below since you can't read French. The 1st part of my comment was ironic. I said just after that the people I mentionned (Stalin, Mao, Hitler...) had much more in common with the revolutionnary ideals than we use to think. Por cierto, apoyo la restauración de la monarquía en Francia.
Je ne savais même pas qu'on avait un Louis XX en France...je pensais qu'après 1789 on avait coupé la tête à toute la famille royale et à leurs descendants...
I don't see why they are still keeping those royals titles except for trying to maintain their names in european royal circles. I hope the French people will never forget how the duke's families did much damage to the french people, and i don't see how is he different from his ancestors. He is just being nice now because he needs all the support he needs to be the french King once more. He is dreaming.
@nastykurtbadboy don't worry. the french learn from an early age just how bad it was for the majority of the population during the Absolute Monarych (emphasis on Absolute, and Monarchy), notonly because of the lack of human rights, but also politically; interior and exterior was utter turmoil. not to mention, the french monarchie had its power mostly due to large-scale war: that is out of the question nowadays, very few countries will apreciate us barging in like we own the place.
@nastykurtbadboy Royal and Nobility titles are used to individualize a few from the many by affirming ones rightful inheritance of a family's ascendency and fortunes as well as position in History well documented and REAL.Weather you like it or not we are NOT all created equal and even if we were,very few can trace their heritage to the XII or XIII Centuries .You can't wish away what many are proud of even if you consider them obsolete and without any merit. I say VIVE LE ROY !!
sure the french revolution did a lot better...decapitating thousand of their country men. then napoleon destroying europe, and thei ideas of iluminism which have brought nothing but a moral and values crisis....the revoluionaries, and the modernist...great.!!,,lol
@DS21PALLAS pas d'hésitation. Selon les règles de dévolution de la Couronne, le Prince Louis de Bourbon est le no 1...de la liste. Il est le 11 ème descendant en ligne directe depuis LOUIS XIV...
Son cousin , le prince Jean d'Orléans-Egalité n'est le no ...80....IL est de la branche cadette....celle des prétendants.,..qui n'ont que le droit de reconnaître leur ROI...l'aîné mâle des Bourbons....La règle en France est...Le ROi est mort.Vive le ROI....
Le sabre et le goupillon ! Quand on lit l'Histoire de France et cette suite inénarrable de rois déments, vaniteux et pervers qui ont tant fait souffrir le peuple français, on a raison de crier Vive la République ! A mort les tyrans !
Louis XIV, fils de Louis XIII ? (à mourir de rire !)
Je ne pense que la république soit une si bonne chose que cela surtout quand on voit ce que devient la France aujourd'hui et je pense qu'il ne faut pas mélanger ce qui s'est passé il y a des siècles avec les roi de France et ce qui pourrait se passer demain .
Ma foi, il suffit de se souvenir du fameux comte de Paris, digne héritier de toute cette suffisance et de son comportement fantasque.
La République est certes pleine de défauts mais reste préférable à la royauté
De quel droit une famille aurait-elle un privilège spécifique ? Droit divin ? Non, le sang bleu n'existe pas et les rejetons faillibles de la pseudo couronne de France n'ont aucun mérite particulier. Vive la République.
Parce que tu crois que les élus de la France d'aujourd'hui ne sont pas un peu comme une caste . Crois tu qu'une monarchie asez forte aurait laisser faire cette immigratrion qui est en train petit à petit de détruire l'identité de ce pays construite au fil des sicèles , certainement pas .
@jeffkodiac C'est vrai, ce n'est pas la faute de la République mais des hommes qui ne respectent pas la République, de là à ramener des tyrans incompétents au pouvoir... Quant à l'identité du pays, il ne faut pas oublier tous ces rois issus de l'immigration. Louis XIV fils d'italien et d'autrichienne. Marie-Antoinette autrichienne aussi, etc... Notre "nation" n'est-elle pas un patchwork de races depuis des siècles ? Que de guerres civiles sous les rois !
Tu sais ce ne furent pas tous des tyrans incompétents et certains on fait la grandeur de la France . Notre nation a connus une immigration seulement au compte goutte entre le 5ième et la fin du 19 ième siècle et ces rois dont tu parles étaient issus de la famille de culture Européenne similaire à la France cela n'a rien à voir avec ce qui se passe aujourd'hui avec cette immigration maghrébine et musulmane qui n'a rien à voir avec notre culture et notre identité .
Reading my books louis phillipe son married a princess of Brazil. Francois's mother was queen of Naples, Italy. The European Royal families married each other and later on the colonies. That is one. Second is, for my shock (but not surprise) the Bourbon's family in France (the same of Louis XIV, XV and the beheaded XVI during revolution) were BACK to power!! My final point is we people make revolutions, terrible wars for nothing! and we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes OVER and OVER.
Well, lets see the young fellow assert some Royal Authority. but in what category? He looks likes hes done army time, so the maybe the first level is achieved. Maybe he can promote the Military Art's and the Sciences and Education in France. he could be master of Universities! And' i think he should have the right to give his opinions in the Paris government! as for her Ladyship, i guess she's just as sharp as Queen Rania of Jordan!
There are many more reasons why a monarchy, even a constitutional one, is beneficial to pure republicanism and democracy. Keep in mind that even politicians like Silvio Berlusconi are made out to be saints compared to decent monarchs like Frederick III of Germany. This is because, again, The People never admit fault. Having tasted power that does not belong to them, The People will do everything to keep it in their hands, even if it means committing national suicide.
@1vonboyer that will never happen listen to me im not going to argue with you im gonna say this one thing u don't know why the kings were removed from power it's not as simple as history claims they were evil racist pigs!!!!!!!! sexist everything against people unless there was something in it for them if u are gonna carry on and start cursing me now be my guest but i'll just sit here and laugh at u
@jusitke07 In republics, there is very little to stop madmen from gaining power. If for example the UK was a republic and a party got into power with a majority in both houses, there would be nothing to stop the Prime Minister from passing mad laws as his party would be loyal to him 99% of the time. This can't happen now as the UK have the safety net of the Queen who can stop a new law and if necessary get rid of the Prime Minister. How quickly did Hitler come along in the Weimar Republic?
@LordSpuggy In Democratic Republics such as the United States, at least we vote for those we see fit for public duty, and hold them responsible for their contributions. Unlike monarchy, royal folks hold the belief they have the "Divine Right" to your taxes, and your life, and can do as whatever they please.
@jusitke07 The concept of divine right hasn't been accepted for hundreds of years, the Queen is actually the highest tax-payer in the United Kingdom, she has very little influence on our everyday lives apart from the royal regalia sprinkled around the country like tourist gold-dust and the Queen has very little privacy, she can't do 'as ever she pleases'. Look at George W. Bush, republics allow people like him to abuse their power, that couldn't happen in a Commonwealth realm.
@LordSpuggy The concept of "Divine Right" is old, out-dated, and draconian. Which is why the ancient Greeks thought of Democracy. BTW, who is "the Queen"?
@jusitke07 I agree, no-one believes in divine right any more. The Queen I'm referring to is H.M. Queen Elizabeth II and if you've ever been to Greece you'll know that they came up with democracy and then didn't advance a lot over the next few thousand years. Please though, look at the monarchies of Northern Europe, they have among the highest qualities of life in the world and they also still get to scribble on a piece of paper ever few years. Us monarchists don't all support absolute monarchy.
@LordSpuggy So then if people don't believe in divine rights to monarchies, then why are people still paying taxes so that they get paid to do absolutely nothing but only live rich just because? And if Democracy was a bad idea from the Greeks, then many successful democratic countries (USA being one of many) we see today would be under a monarchy right? Oh, and your queen lizzie, don't care for her. moving along now.
you clearly don't have much of an understanding of how beneficial the British monarchy is, and how ignorant foreigners like yourself are often ensared in the trap of "oh, monarchies are evil and a waste of taxpayers' time because they are old and live in castles". Look up "The true cost of the Royal Family Explained" and be enlightened kiddo.
I'd be happy to, but be aware there's a lot of reasons.
#1: In a democracy, the majority rules. Plain and simple. Social power is mobilized to whatever the masses desire through a simple casting of the ballot. If the masses desire to place a dictator who appeals to their basest instincts, so be it. Dictatorships become legitimate under democractic auspicies.
Democracy always ensures the wolf rises to the top, whereas the monarch is there whether they like it or not.
@idahobuckeye Well a democratic country like the USA, France, Canada, Japan, etc, seem to be doing just fine. I don't know of what dictators youre talking about. Shall I point out to you how ruthless and tyrannical a king/queen can be to his/her subjects?
Canada and Japan are monarchies, ruled respectively by Queen Elizabeth II and His Majesty Emperor Akihito.
The USA is not doing "just fine", it needs a 2-4 trillion dollar overhaul on infrastructure, partisanship has left the nation bitterly divided, and elections only field ultra-wealthy, highly connected candidates. France isn't so hot right now, either.
Are you blind to the tens of millions slaughtered by communism and fascism? Past monarchs have nothing on that.
@idahobuckeye Upon being informed that the citizens of France had no bread to eat, Marie Antoinette , Queen-consort of Louis XVI of France, exclaimed "let them eat cake", or "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche".
This is one amongst many reasons why Monarchies don't work. Plus, these people think that they're some gods, and/or depending on their worshippers like you to pay taxes solely to make them rich
She never said that. That quote that is so mistakenly attributed to her was in fact a blatant lie and the product of vicious anti-royal and xenophobic sentiment (Her Majesty was Austrian and the youngest Archduchess in Austrian history).
Worse yet, besides using a quote she never said, you blather on by saying "that's why monarchies don't work". What kind of an argument is that? Your training is insufficient, grasshopper
@idahobuckeye If she never said that, then how in the world did the French Revolution started to the point the French people beheaded their king, queen, princes, princesses, dukes, duchesses, earls, marquis, etc...??....why do you suppose the French people did away with their monarchy? Is it perhaps, it didn't work?
The French Revolution started because the nation went bankrupt financing the American Revolution. It got out of hand because Louis XVI didn't want to fire on his own people; he could have ordered a few units to stamp the whole thing out.
And they didn't just behead royalty. The French people themselves were massacred in great numbers; anyone accused of threatening the revolution was brought before the guillotine. The Terror was far worse than any monarch's excesses.
@idahobuckeye The French revolution was fed by jewish freemasonry, and bankruptcy was forced upon the nation just like bankruptcy now in Europe. it's the forces of evil against the forces of light/ of Christ. that's it.
@shetlandwool Some Europeans have this habit of blaming Jews on the woes of European society. If the Monarchy is bankrupt, blame it on the Jews. If the Monarchs decided to jail pro-Democratic groups without fair trials, blame it on Jews. If the King/Queen chooses to wage war against another Kingdom, blame it on Jews. If the King/Queen is sick blame it on the Jews. If the heir to the throne happens to be a Homosexual, blame it on the Jews. What next?
@idahobuckeye Oh and can you guess why the French nation went bankrupt with so many people pleading for food and work? Is it perhaps Louis XVI sought his "Divine Right" to whatever money he can spend on without regards to his people? It's called "Taxation without Representation" whatsoever. The people pay their taxes to the Monarchy, and yet the Monarchs lavishly spend it on parties, wars, jewelry, and travels
Cute. "Monarchs lavishly spend taxes on parties, wars and travels." So...where does the US stand with 5k hammers, the Iraq War, special interest payoffs and even more lavish travels to sit around and do nothing for the entirety of their visit?
You can say what you want--yes, there were excesses pre-1791. But they paled in comparison to the orgy of bloodletting and mindless, hiveminded slaughter of countless people. The Revolution cannot in anyway be justified, ever.
@idahobuckeye said, "where does the US stand with 5k hammers, the Iraq War, special interest payoffs and even more lavish travels to sit around and do nothing for the entirety of their visit?"
I agree, Bush Jr. ruined America. And that's where DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS come in. We the people then elect another person who can do the job right. Unlike Monarchies, the ruler is there for life, and spends money lavishly because of their "divine right"
"We the people then elect another person who can do the job right."
No, you won't. You'll elect whoever can promise you the most in the shortest amount of time. Obama is just as bad as Bush, if not worse. "The People" complain about how awful politicians are, and what do "The People" do in their infinite wisdom and supreme conviction of ideals? THEY REELECT THEM. They will always elect those who look good, sound good and say the right things. Honesty never wins.
No, Canada is not "ruled" by Her Majesty the Queen. She IS, however, the Head of State...as she is with Australia, Jamaica, New Zealand, Great Britain and numerous other places. Since Canada recognizes her as the royal sovereign of the land as their Head of State...Canada is a monarchy.
A society in a democracy will never be inclined to participate because hey, the other guy has it covered. Take that and apply a growing apathy over the space of a few decades and you'll have a republic where there are over 230 million potential voters as in the US, and only 80 or 90 million go and vote. Usually, the extremes win out and bitter partisanship ends up splitting the nation, where party loyalty matters more than national loyalty.
#3: You can hold a king accountable because he governs WITHIN the laws of the nation. Even Louis XVI was answerable to the constitutional monarchy the French had set up (before impatient radicals declared it wasn't enough).
You cannot, however, ever hold "The People" accountable for electing idiots, fools and liars to office...and subsequently REELECTING them back to office. A king will owe up to mistakes. "The People" will never admit fault with their choices.
@jusitke07 you seem to think that monarchy is the opposite of democracy. This is not true. The opposite of democracy is dictatorship. The opposite of a monarchy is a republic. Both the republic and the monarchy can be democratic or dictatorial. Hope I enlightened your day.
@ursus911 france was the most powerfull contry wen the sun king rule over europe and again when the napoleon conquest all western europe when france was monarchy was a powerfull contry now Now both must be turning in their graves watching his glorious nation is a shame is not the shadow of the glorious France was once times but now Sarkozys make a shame of france just being there
@MsOal In my opinion, the change of alliances in the time of Louis xv was the main reason of the whole problem. That lead to the prussian/english coaltion, which made France loose Canada and India with the deficits of the wars. Napoleon made the mistake to annect the glacis of France, thus a french defined german/belgian/NL Rhineland became aware of its Nation feeling. That lead to a bunch of new nations and France lost its supremacy, thus I am a fench citizen manqué....
@avnergalil Aristocracy has become an increasingly monopolistic malignant disease of our species that gravely threatens its survival. Time is embarrassingly overdue to shed such primitive filthy welfare parasite relics, including the leech bankster / gangster / master capitalists and their corporations / governments / institutions literally sucking the bejesus life out of this planet.
Si un roi pouvait nous débarasser de cette clique de malfrats qui nous gouvernent depuis Pompidou, ce serait une bonne chose, mais ce n'est pas un roi qui fait un gouvernement honnête, ce sont les gens qui le compose, or une monarchie constitutionnelle et démocratique serait aussi pourrie que l'est la république
@1MagicAndMayhem1 Oh yes you are completely right. That's why Frenchies don't want forever a monarch. We think king will be more happy in your country.
@frenchiecocorico1 Its good you acknowledge France just isnt good enough or wisened enough to have its own Monarchy, It's people already proved themselves unworthy by murdering their own, And any French who were noble enough to support them faced exacution on stupid grounds as well, Enjoy your Republic, Or should we say European Union,
@1MagicAndMayhem1 As I told French doesn't want a king anymore. But we were wisened enough to take England as a model (it well known UK is the better model all over the world) and behead our absolute monarch (do you remenber Charles Ist and the British republic and Cromwell?). I observe most of the world nations chose to become republic and not monarchy. I've heard too that some british want the royalty abolition? At least, UK would leave its reactionnary habits for modernity .
Imagine this could be the King of France, Georg of Hohenzollern the Emperor of Germany and Leopold of Bavaria on the english throne, what a glamouros world it could be......
@ursus911 You're a slave, the greatest Western civilizations have always been anti monarchist. From democratic Athens and republican Rome to the United States of America.
Only slaves wish to bow to other human beings whose only claim to fame is their daddy's sperm.
@ImaginedWriter I dont want to be a slave of Stalin or Pol Pot nor Hitler or Kim, I would prefer to live in a land like Sweden or Britain with a constitutional and independent monarch. Dont forget, Chomeinis servants murdered ten times as many people than the shahs savak. A bavarian/latin phrase says vox populi - vox Rindvieh
( bull ) and thats right in most cases, swiss democracy not included.....
@ursus911 Glamourous is the word....Glamour is a stupid vision printed on magazines for people who live in a shitty world....just like two centuries before...
@olbodala Tienes una mentalidad negativa. La expulsion de los judios de Espana en 1492 robo' Espana de un grupo de personas de grandes talentos para desarrollar el comercio y asi' nunca se pudo dessarrollar bien la clase media en Espana con aquella mentalidad reaccionaria y restrictiva.
@JAM5227 No Carlo V (quien no ha existido) sino Felipe V. Carlos IV era el ultimo Rey Carlos. Carlos V era imperador del Sacro Imperio Romano de los Alemanes y era Habsburgo.
He is the last Heir of the Lancastrians via Elisabeth Farnese and Evreux and the Valois via Henry IV of France in short the warring clans that warred for the succession in the Hundred Years War of France had been merged and Louis XX is the descendant of all these lines.;)
Moi, je suis désolé de l'injuste anarchie républicaine que certains français ont fait installée en France par la force. VIVE LA LIBERTE! VIVE L'EGALITE! VIVE LA FRATERNITE! VIVE LA MONARCHIE! VIVE LE ROI DE FRANCE! VIVE LA FRANCE!
nous sommes très fiers de la république que nos vaillants anciens ont instaurés et pour rien au monde nous ne retournerions à l'injuste et archaïque système de la monarchie. VIVE LA FRANCE, VIVE LA LIBERTÉ, VIVE LA RÉPUBLIQUE!
JGdW : L'idéologie communiste dans le monde a tué plus de 100 millions de personnes. Aucune autre idéologie dans l'histoire de l'humanité n' est aussi mortifère. Elle a été déclarée "génocidaire" et devrait être interdite au nom des droits de l'homme et du respect de la vie humaine.Tout le reste n'est que du babillage.
@haborublume1 It should not be a problem that he is a descendant of Franco. Many families, both royal and Non-royal, have had ancestors that were popular to some and hated by others. The important thing is that he is the legitimate heir to the throne of France. Spain has its own legitimate heirs (Bourbons also) in King Juan Carlos and Principe de Asturias Felipe.
There is No "throne of France". There was a revolution, remember that? The notion of "royalty" is ridiculous. Why would a country choose this nonsense?
@Discoboy504 "There is no 'democracy'. There was the Divine Right of Kings, remember that? The notion of 'representation' is ridiculous. Why would a country choose this non-sense?"
@BVB09Fanatic The Divine Right of Kings is ancient history. Look at all the democratic, constitutional monarchies of northern Europe and Spain. The royals are very popular and are non-political. The monarch serves as Head of State, but the Head of Government is a Prime Minister, or could be a President of the Council of Ministers, or Chancellor, or whatever, either directly elected by the People or the leader of the principal party in parliament. Not a problem.
@FRAGIORGIO1 Ancient history? I suppose. My point is that governmental systems are only as good as the people that want them. If the people of France wanted an administrative/constitutional/absolute/etc. monarchy - who are we to tell them know? The Right of Self-Determination.
@Discoboy504 Because each country has its history and culture. DeGaulle spoke of the Europe of the "Patries" (Fatherlands), and he was right. Northern Europe is full of popular, democratic constitutional monarchies where the non-political historical unity of the country is affirmed in the royal family and particularly in the monarch. The European constitutional monarchies are Very Popular and serve as Heads of State and promoters of the national consciousness and unity.
@Discoboy504 Actually, there were Several revolutions all with differing reasons and results. Which one are you referring to? Choosing something that is part of the history and culture of a nation is not ridiculous, as long as it is firmly encrusted within the constitutional democratic set-up of a country, such as Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, the United Kingdom, etc., nations with a Solid Democratic Monarchical history and constitution.
VIVE LA D.E.M.O.C.R.A.T.I.E !!! Le peuple français, NOTRE peuple n'a pas fait une révolution pour rien. En tout cas pas pour qu'on se prosterne devant quelqu'un car personne ne vaut plus qu'un autre. Sa fille de 4 ans duchesse pff regardez moi ça mais pourquoi ça existe encore ça?!! Que des titres heureusement mais quand même. A peine née qu'elle est déjà placée au dessus des autres. Ridicule c'est le mot que je cherchais. Il faut qu'ils redescendent sur terre
@InoYamanaka016 Tolérance tu connais ? tu tiens un discours pas très démocrate^^ et la liberté des gens ? tous ne peuvent pas être d'accord sur un choix politique...
@benjiAkatosh Je n'interdis à personne de préférer un régime quelconque j'essaie juste de vous faire ouvrir les yeux et de donner mon point de vue je ne dit pas non plus que c'est le meilleur juste celui qui me semble le plus juste au jour d'aujourd'hui, après libre à chacun d'idolâtrer quelqu'un qui soit y en repassant n'a pas plus de valeur que nous mais bref mon commentaire précédant a été écrit sous un accès de colère, surement le fait de les voir poser comme si ils y étaient déjà...
@InoYamanaka016 Vous faites une grave confusion entre une forme de gouvernement (monarchie - république) et un type de gouvernement (démocratie - oligarchie - dictature). Regardez l'exemple espagnol. Qui c'est qui a imposé la démocratie, et qui a tenu bon face au coup d'état militaire de 1981? Le Roi, et un Bourbon en plus !!! Comme quoi... Et une République peut être bien moins démocratique qu'une monarchie. Exemple de ces Républiques : Corée du Nord, Libye, Chine, et j'en passe.
@Nostronflamel République démocratique de Chine c'est comme République démocratique de Russie du temps de l'URSS le mot République c'est juste pour la forme ^^ et la Libye bah maintenant c'est en transition la question est est-ce que ça va devenir un véritable pas démocratique.
@Nostronflamel Oui, il semble me souvenir que le roi en Espagne a été mis en place par un dictateur (général Franco) dont il a été jusqu'à sa mort le protégé et le factotum, au point même de bousculer à son avantage l'ordre de succession au trône (coup d"état monarchique) qui aurait dû revenir à son père (un opposant acharné à la dictature sanguinaire de Franco pour son plus grand honneur)?
@InoYamanaka016 Democracy is not excluded from a constitutional monarchy. Rather, modern monarchy is very democratic, as in the UK, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Luxembourg, Spain, Japan, to name some of the most prominent Democratic Monarchies. Those are very Solidly democratic societies and the monarchs and royal families are very Popular there. How popular are elected political leaders?? Constitutional monarchs are non-political Heads of State with many duties.
@InoYamanaka016 Los nombres no son un problem. No hay reinas de belleza o de la festival de cerezas. etc/? La princesa de primavera y de un espectaculo de autos nuevos? Te parece problema de que hay Presidentes, jueces, alcaldes (mayeurs0, generles?
@Wisdomfanatic2011 Yes, bring back the Bourbons as constitutional monarchs of a democratic France. The Jews are a worthy part of the French nation. President Sarkozy is respected internationally, but his destiny is for the French People to decide.
@ametrus Apparently you have forgotten the Great Louis XIV and the good Louis Philippe. It is true that Louis XV and XVI were mediocre and not able to handle the Etat handed to them by Louis XIV. For that reason, a constitutional monarchy is more nearly ideal, wherein the monarch has little to do politically. That task is for the elected representatives of the French People.
Well, well, well... Seems that the Dauphin is not the only one who has the right to the throne. A nother Prince showed up. One Closer to the Bourbogne blood line.
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A Spanish heir of the throne of France ?
OMG !!!! lol
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Seriously, if he is French, he can dash himself into the presidential elections of the... Republic ! ^_^
cumbas 18 hours ago
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cumbas 18 hours ago
I love that music.
sandinyourshoes 1 day ago
Heheh. For some reason he doesn't look like a king to me. He looks like a Californian surfer. :P
SwissNinjaHochstadt 5 days ago
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LittleHorse72 1 week ago
@LittleHorse72 C'est ça, donc va jusqu'au bout : "Vive Lénine! Vive Staline! Vive Hitler! Vive Pol Pot! Vive Mao! Ces gens-là ont bien plus d'affinités avec l'idéologie de 1793 que tu ne le penses...
terioze9 3 days ago
@terioze9 idiot
ferdinandof2003 3 days ago
@ferdinandof2003 I'm not sure you did understand what I wrote below since you can't read French. The 1st part of my comment was ironic. I said just after that the people I mentionned (Stalin, Mao, Hitler...) had much more in common with the revolutionnary ideals than we use to think. Por cierto, apoyo la restauración de la monarquía en Francia.
terioze9 2 days ago
REINSTATE THE ROI, VIVE LE ROI
SuperGiocoso 1 week ago
he will never become king of france, he should just stay in spain!
aragnee1 1 week ago
@aragnee1 he is the heir of the throne, God gave him this right when he was born, you cannot go against it.
So6renegade 1 week ago
Je ne savais même pas qu'on avait un Louis XX en France...je pensais qu'après 1789 on avait coupé la tête à toute la famille royale et à leurs descendants...
minhounou 3 weeks ago
@minhounou non il ya eu louis 17 fils de louis16 et marie antoinette,ensuite à le roi louis 18 etcharles 10 sont montés sur le trône de France...
rhesus27 2 weeks ago
I don't see why they are still keeping those royals titles except for trying to maintain their names in european royal circles. I hope the French people will never forget how the duke's families did much damage to the french people, and i don't see how is he different from his ancestors. He is just being nice now because he needs all the support he needs to be the french King once more. He is dreaming.
nastykurtbadboy 1 month ago 2
@nastykurtbadboy don't worry. the french learn from an early age just how bad it was for the majority of the population during the Absolute Monarych (emphasis on Absolute, and Monarchy), notonly because of the lack of human rights, but also politically; interior and exterior was utter turmoil. not to mention, the french monarchie had its power mostly due to large-scale war: that is out of the question nowadays, very few countries will apreciate us barging in like we own the place.
Pemphetru 1 month ago
@nastykurtbadboy Royal and Nobility titles are used to individualize a few from the many by affirming ones rightful inheritance of a family's ascendency and fortunes as well as position in History well documented and REAL.Weather you like it or not we are NOT all created equal and even if we were,very few can trace their heritage to the XII or XIII Centuries .You can't wish away what many are proud of even if you consider them obsolete and without any merit. I say VIVE LE ROY !!
pourmoinyc 1 month ago
@nastykurtbadboy Ve te faire enculer, faggotboy! J'encule tous les anglophones.
viriatoist 1 week ago
sure the french revolution did a lot better...decapitating thousand of their country men. then napoleon destroying europe, and thei ideas of iluminism which have brought nothing but a moral and values crisis....the revoluionaries, and the modernist...great.!!,,lol
monk1588 1 week ago
@traditionnaliste
Beaucoup de gens aujourd'hui devrait se rappeler de ce que tu dis dans ce pays qui perd ses valeurs .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
Qui est l'héritier du trône, l'Orléans ou le Bourbon ? Jean IV ou Louis XX ?
DS21PALLAS 1 month ago
@DS21PALLAS
Je dirais le plus beau des deux certainement...
WAMEDJO 1 month ago
@DS21PALLAS pas d'hésitation. Selon les règles de dévolution de la Couronne, le Prince Louis de Bourbon est le no 1...de la liste. Il est le 11 ème descendant en ligne directe depuis LOUIS XIV...
Son cousin , le prince Jean d'Orléans-Egalité n'est le no ...80....IL est de la branche cadette....celle des prétendants.,..qui n'ont que le droit de reconnaître leur ROI...l'aîné mâle des Bourbons....La règle en France est...Le ROi est mort.Vive le ROI....
philippeboehler 1 month ago
L'honneur ? Je crois que tu as une vision complètement décalé des réalités
DS21PALLAS 1 month ago
@traditionnaliste
Ni roy, ni Dieu n'ont protégé le peuple français au cours des siècles. Pour lui, une suite infinie de malheurs et d'injustices en tous genres.
Dieu n'a pas oublié nos rois, ils sont dans une fosse commune maintenant. A méditer
DS21PALLAS 1 month ago
Le sabre et le goupillon ! Quand on lit l'Histoire de France et cette suite inénarrable de rois déments, vaniteux et pervers qui ont tant fait souffrir le peuple français, on a raison de crier Vive la République ! A mort les tyrans !
Louis XIV, fils de Louis XIII ? (à mourir de rire !)
DS21PALLAS 1 month ago
@DS21PALLAS
Je ne pense que la république soit une si bonne chose que cela surtout quand on voit ce que devient la France aujourd'hui et je pense qu'il ne faut pas mélanger ce qui s'est passé il y a des siècles avec les roi de France et ce qui pourrait se passer demain .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac
Ma foi, il suffit de se souvenir du fameux comte de Paris, digne héritier de toute cette suffisance et de son comportement fantasque.
La République est certes pleine de défauts mais reste préférable à la royauté
De quel droit une famille aurait-elle un privilège spécifique ? Droit divin ? Non, le sang bleu n'existe pas et les rejetons faillibles de la pseudo couronne de France n'ont aucun mérite particulier. Vive la République.
DS21PALLAS 1 month ago
@DS21PALLAS
Parce que tu crois que les élus de la France d'aujourd'hui ne sont pas un peu comme une caste . Crois tu qu'une monarchie asez forte aurait laisser faire cette immigratrion qui est en train petit à petit de détruire l'identité de ce pays construite au fil des sicèles , certainement pas .
jeffkodiac 1 month ago
@jeffkodiac C'est vrai, ce n'est pas la faute de la République mais des hommes qui ne respectent pas la République, de là à ramener des tyrans incompétents au pouvoir... Quant à l'identité du pays, il ne faut pas oublier tous ces rois issus de l'immigration. Louis XIV fils d'italien et d'autrichienne. Marie-Antoinette autrichienne aussi, etc... Notre "nation" n'est-elle pas un patchwork de races depuis des siècles ? Que de guerres civiles sous les rois !
DS21PALLAS 1 month ago
@DS21PALLAS
Tu sais ce ne furent pas tous des tyrans incompétents et certains on fait la grandeur de la France . Notre nation a connus une immigration seulement au compte goutte entre le 5ième et la fin du 19 ième siècle et ces rois dont tu parles étaient issus de la famille de culture Européenne similaire à la France cela n'a rien à voir avec ce qui se passe aujourd'hui avec cette immigration maghrébine et musulmane qui n'a rien à voir avec notre culture et notre identité .
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The French should kick that hideous dwarf out of the Élysée Palace, along with his Italian woman.
TracyDomenica 1 month ago
No wonder, after the curse and the disobedience (Adam and Eve), and out of the Garden, we were LOST.
guilhermesazonov 1 month ago
Reading my books louis phillipe son married a princess of Brazil. Francois's mother was queen of Naples, Italy. The European Royal families married each other and later on the colonies. That is one. Second is, for my shock (but not surprise) the Bourbon's family in France (the same of Louis XIV, XV and the beheaded XVI during revolution) were BACK to power!! My final point is we people make revolutions, terrible wars for nothing! and we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes OVER and OVER.
guilhermesazonov 1 month ago
Vive le Roy!
19StZ83 1 month ago
I propose the french people should rise up, overthrow there socialist goverment and allow a real king do the job.
1vonboyer 1 month ago
vive ORLEAN !
druisteen2 1 month ago
Well, lets see the young fellow assert some Royal Authority. but in what category? He looks likes hes done army time, so the maybe the first level is achieved. Maybe he can promote the Military Art's and the Sciences and Education in France. he could be master of Universities! And' i think he should have the right to give his opinions in the Paris government! as for her Ladyship, i guess she's just as sharp as Queen Rania of Jordan!
acerb45666555 1 month ago
Adelante, hable con los militares descontentos. Es su oportunidad ahora.
gmoreyful 1 month ago
I Stand by what I wrote!
judetunes1 1 month ago
Sarkozy is not a French!!!Is a fucking monarch from zionism dynasty!!!
Louis XX is a true french from CAPETIAN DYNASTY!!
Vive la FRANCE VIVE LE ROI!
MisterAl6 1 month ago
VIVE LE ROY!
VIVE LA MONARCHIE!
Love from italy!
capvtmvndi90 1 month ago
There are many more reasons why a monarchy, even a constitutional one, is beneficial to pure republicanism and democracy. Keep in mind that even politicians like Silvio Berlusconi are made out to be saints compared to decent monarchs like Frederick III of Germany. This is because, again, The People never admit fault. Having tasted power that does not belong to them, The People will do everything to keep it in their hands, even if it means committing national suicide.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
I will not argue opinions it is foolish to even try and do so.
1vonboyer 2 months ago
Its a disappointment that they are that foolish. I pray that Louis will take back his divine right to rule over France.
1vonboyer 2 months ago
@1vonboyer that will never happen listen to me im not going to argue with you im gonna say this one thing u don't know why the kings were removed from power it's not as simple as history claims they were evil racist pigs!!!!!!!! sexist everything against people unless there was something in it for them if u are gonna carry on and start cursing me now be my guest but i'll just sit here and laugh at u
mbarana100 2 months ago
@1vonboyer Qu'est-ce à propos de Jean Christophe, le prince Napoléon?
andmaketherain 1 month ago
I can't even begin to start historically of how Monarchys can be ruthless and tyrannical throughout history....
jusitke07 2 months ago
pero que imbecilidad, Francia es una república libre y soberana y bastante que les ha costado conseguirla. y esperamos lo mismo de España
rrobeful 2 months ago
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rrobeful 2 months ago
I hope not. Monarchy is stupidity. Democracy which the people rule, works a lot better
jusitke07 2 months ago
@jusitke07 In republics, there is very little to stop madmen from gaining power. If for example the UK was a republic and a party got into power with a majority in both houses, there would be nothing to stop the Prime Minister from passing mad laws as his party would be loyal to him 99% of the time. This can't happen now as the UK have the safety net of the Queen who can stop a new law and if necessary get rid of the Prime Minister. How quickly did Hitler come along in the Weimar Republic?
LordSpuggy 2 months ago
@LordSpuggy In Democratic Republics such as the United States, at least we vote for those we see fit for public duty, and hold them responsible for their contributions. Unlike monarchy, royal folks hold the belief they have the "Divine Right" to your taxes, and your life, and can do as whatever they please.
jusitke07 2 months ago
@jusitke07 The concept of divine right hasn't been accepted for hundreds of years, the Queen is actually the highest tax-payer in the United Kingdom, she has very little influence on our everyday lives apart from the royal regalia sprinkled around the country like tourist gold-dust and the Queen has very little privacy, she can't do 'as ever she pleases'. Look at George W. Bush, republics allow people like him to abuse their power, that couldn't happen in a Commonwealth realm.
LordSpuggy 2 months ago 9
@LordSpuggy The concept of "Divine Right" is old, out-dated, and draconian. Which is why the ancient Greeks thought of Democracy. BTW, who is "the Queen"?
jusitke07 2 months ago
@jusitke07 I agree, no-one believes in divine right any more. The Queen I'm referring to is H.M. Queen Elizabeth II and if you've ever been to Greece you'll know that they came up with democracy and then didn't advance a lot over the next few thousand years. Please though, look at the monarchies of Northern Europe, they have among the highest qualities of life in the world and they also still get to scribble on a piece of paper ever few years. Us monarchists don't all support absolute monarchy.
LordSpuggy 2 months ago
@LordSpuggy So then if people don't believe in divine rights to monarchies, then why are people still paying taxes so that they get paid to do absolutely nothing but only live rich just because? And if Democracy was a bad idea from the Greeks, then many successful democratic countries (USA being one of many) we see today would be under a monarchy right? Oh, and your queen lizzie, don't care for her. moving along now.
jusitke07 2 months ago
@jusitke07
you clearly don't have much of an understanding of how beneficial the British monarchy is, and how ignorant foreigners like yourself are often ensared in the trap of "oh, monarchies are evil and a waste of taxpayers' time because they are old and live in castles". Look up "The true cost of the Royal Family Explained" and be enlightened kiddo.
HelmutVillam 2 months ago
@HelmutVillam Oh really? Enlighten me as to how is Monarchy better than Democracy?
jusitke07 2 months ago
@jusitke07
I'd be happy to, but be aware there's a lot of reasons.
#1: In a democracy, the majority rules. Plain and simple. Social power is mobilized to whatever the masses desire through a simple casting of the ballot. If the masses desire to place a dictator who appeals to their basest instincts, so be it. Dictatorships become legitimate under democractic auspicies.
Democracy always ensures the wolf rises to the top, whereas the monarch is there whether they like it or not.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@idahobuckeye Well a democratic country like the USA, France, Canada, Japan, etc, seem to be doing just fine. I don't know of what dictators youre talking about. Shall I point out to you how ruthless and tyrannical a king/queen can be to his/her subjects?
jusitke07 1 month ago
@jusitke07
Canada and Japan are monarchies, ruled respectively by Queen Elizabeth II and His Majesty Emperor Akihito.
The USA is not doing "just fine", it needs a 2-4 trillion dollar overhaul on infrastructure, partisanship has left the nation bitterly divided, and elections only field ultra-wealthy, highly connected candidates. France isn't so hot right now, either.
Are you blind to the tens of millions slaughtered by communism and fascism? Past monarchs have nothing on that.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@idahobuckeye Upon being informed that the citizens of France had no bread to eat, Marie Antoinette , Queen-consort of Louis XVI of France, exclaimed "let them eat cake", or "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche".
This is one amongst many reasons why Monarchies don't work. Plus, these people think that they're some gods, and/or depending on their worshippers like you to pay taxes solely to make them rich
jusitke07 1 month ago
@jusitke07
*sigh*
She never said that. That quote that is so mistakenly attributed to her was in fact a blatant lie and the product of vicious anti-royal and xenophobic sentiment (Her Majesty was Austrian and the youngest Archduchess in Austrian history).
Worse yet, besides using a quote she never said, you blather on by saying "that's why monarchies don't work". What kind of an argument is that? Your training is insufficient, grasshopper
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@idahobuckeye If she never said that, then how in the world did the French Revolution started to the point the French people beheaded their king, queen, princes, princesses, dukes, duchesses, earls, marquis, etc...??....why do you suppose the French people did away with their monarchy? Is it perhaps, it didn't work?
jusitke07 1 month ago
@jusitke07
The French Revolution started because the nation went bankrupt financing the American Revolution. It got out of hand because Louis XVI didn't want to fire on his own people; he could have ordered a few units to stamp the whole thing out.
And they didn't just behead royalty. The French people themselves were massacred in great numbers; anyone accused of threatening the revolution was brought before the guillotine. The Terror was far worse than any monarch's excesses.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@idahobuckeye The French revolution was fed by jewish freemasonry, and bankruptcy was forced upon the nation just like bankruptcy now in Europe. it's the forces of evil against the forces of light/ of Christ. that's it.
shetlandwool 1 month ago
@shetlandwool Some Europeans have this habit of blaming Jews on the woes of European society. If the Monarchy is bankrupt, blame it on the Jews. If the Monarchs decided to jail pro-Democratic groups without fair trials, blame it on Jews. If the King/Queen chooses to wage war against another Kingdom, blame it on Jews. If the King/Queen is sick blame it on the Jews. If the heir to the throne happens to be a Homosexual, blame it on the Jews. What next?
jusitke07 1 month ago
@idahobuckeye Oh and can you guess why the French nation went bankrupt with so many people pleading for food and work? Is it perhaps Louis XVI sought his "Divine Right" to whatever money he can spend on without regards to his people? It's called "Taxation without Representation" whatsoever. The people pay their taxes to the Monarchy, and yet the Monarchs lavishly spend it on parties, wars, jewelry, and travels
jusitke07 1 month ago
@jusitke07
Cute. "Monarchs lavishly spend taxes on parties, wars and travels." So...where does the US stand with 5k hammers, the Iraq War, special interest payoffs and even more lavish travels to sit around and do nothing for the entirety of their visit?
You can say what you want--yes, there were excesses pre-1791. But they paled in comparison to the orgy of bloodletting and mindless, hiveminded slaughter of countless people. The Revolution cannot in anyway be justified, ever.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
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@idahobuckeye said, "where does the US stand with 5k hammers, the Iraq War, special interest payoffs and even more lavish travels to sit around and do nothing for the entirety of their visit?"
I agree, Bush Jr. ruined America. And that's where DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS come in. We the people then elect another person who can do the job right. Unlike Monarchies, the ruler is there for life, and spends money lavishly because of their "divine right"
jusitke07 1 month ago
@jusitke07
"We the people then elect another person who can do the job right."
No, you won't. You'll elect whoever can promise you the most in the shortest amount of time. Obama is just as bad as Bush, if not worse. "The People" complain about how awful politicians are, and what do "The People" do in their infinite wisdom and supreme conviction of ideals? THEY REELECT THEM. They will always elect those who look good, sound good and say the right things. Honesty never wins.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@idahobuckeye great comment
MrGilles1990 3 weeks ago
@idahobuckeye Canada is NOT Ruled by Queen Elizabeth ll, We have a Prime Minster!!
we haven't been ruled since the 60's . Canada is doing a lot better then you are, when
it comes to MONEY and who has more of it right now!!
judetunes1 1 month ago
@judetunes1
No, Canada is not "ruled" by Her Majesty the Queen. She IS, however, the Head of State...as she is with Australia, Jamaica, New Zealand, Great Britain and numerous other places. Since Canada recognizes her as the royal sovereign of the land as their Head of State...Canada is a monarchy.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@jusitke07
#2:
A society in a democracy will never be inclined to participate because hey, the other guy has it covered. Take that and apply a growing apathy over the space of a few decades and you'll have a republic where there are over 230 million potential voters as in the US, and only 80 or 90 million go and vote. Usually, the extremes win out and bitter partisanship ends up splitting the nation, where party loyalty matters more than national loyalty.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@jusitke07
#3: You can hold a king accountable because he governs WITHIN the laws of the nation. Even Louis XVI was answerable to the constitutional monarchy the French had set up (before impatient radicals declared it wasn't enough).
You cannot, however, ever hold "The People" accountable for electing idiots, fools and liars to office...and subsequently REELECTING them back to office. A king will owe up to mistakes. "The People" will never admit fault with their choices.
idahobuckeye 1 month ago
@jusitke07 you seem to think that monarchy is the opposite of democracy. This is not true. The opposite of democracy is dictatorship. The opposite of a monarchy is a republic. Both the republic and the monarchy can be democratic or dictatorial. Hope I enlightened your day.
calocaerus 1 month ago
I hope he does take the thrown of France back.
1vonboyer 2 months ago
@1vonboyer he is the thrown of France - France threw him away!
AgrippaVipsanius 2 months ago
two more Sarkozys and the french people make him King......
ursus911 2 months ago 17
@ursus911 Nope, it won't make it past even one more.
SanMichel22 2 months ago
@ursus911 france was the most powerfull contry wen the sun king rule over europe and again when the napoleon conquest all western europe when france was monarchy was a powerfull contry now Now both must be turning in their graves watching his glorious nation is a shame is not the shadow of the glorious France was once times but now Sarkozys make a shame of france just being there
MsOal 3 weeks ago
@MsOal In my opinion, the change of alliances in the time of Louis xv was the main reason of the whole problem. That lead to the prussian/english coaltion, which made France loose Canada and India with the deficits of the wars. Napoleon made the mistake to annect the glacis of France, thus a french defined german/belgian/NL Rhineland became aware of its Nation feeling. That lead to a bunch of new nations and France lost its supremacy, thus I am a fench citizen manqué....
ursus911 3 weeks ago 2
@MsOal you're so true !!!
So6renegade 1 week ago
@ursus911 It won't even take that long.
SanMichel22 1 week ago
Oh hell no. Fuck that, fuck him, fuck the monarchy.
drufuss2006 2 months ago
@drufuss2006 thank you he looks like a fucking beanie baby :/
mbarana100 2 months ago
Marchons, marchons !
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons !
avnergalil 2 months ago
@avnergalil Aristocracy has become an increasingly monopolistic malignant disease of our species that gravely threatens its survival. Time is embarrassingly overdue to shed such primitive filthy welfare parasite relics, including the leech bankster / gangster / master capitalists and their corporations / governments / institutions literally sucking the bejesus life out of this planet.
À Bas L'Aristocratie et La Ploutocratie,
Égalité à jamais!
Evolving001 2 months ago
at least he's not fat like is ansetor Louis the last.
Silverknight171 2 months ago
Des franc maçon, tous... meme lui, il n'y a plus de roi légitime envers le seigneur Dieu.
VaygrES 2 months ago
Si un roi pouvait nous débarasser de cette clique de malfrats qui nous gouvernent depuis Pompidou, ce serait une bonne chose, mais ce n'est pas un roi qui fait un gouvernement honnête, ce sont les gens qui le compose, or une monarchie constitutionnelle et démocratique serait aussi pourrie que l'est la république
borncoza 3 months ago
Is he related to the prince of Denmark Henrik ?
456inthemix 3 months ago
"Il ne peut y avoir en France de roi que de France" (Jeanne d'Arc)
"In France, a king cannot be other than native of France" (Joan of Arc)
"Le peuple est le seul monarque légitime de la France" (Mirabeau)
"Only people is the true legal monarch" (Mirabeau)
Vive la république
frenchiecocorico1 3 months ago
I thought there was no more French Royal Blood anymore.
POTCMarc101 3 months ago
@POTCMarc101 That's why I would like to make the "heir" 30cm smaller!!!
Dixav77 3 months ago
France is unworthy of a king,
1MagicAndMayhem1 3 months ago
@1MagicAndMayhem1 Oh yes you are completely right. That's why Frenchies don't want forever a monarch. We think king will be more happy in your country.
frenchiecocorico1 3 months ago
@frenchiecocorico1 Its good you acknowledge France just isnt good enough or wisened enough to have its own Monarchy, It's people already proved themselves unworthy by murdering their own, And any French who were noble enough to support them faced exacution on stupid grounds as well, Enjoy your Republic, Or should we say European Union,
1MagicAndMayhem1 3 months ago
@1MagicAndMayhem1 As I told French doesn't want a king anymore. But we were wisened enough to take England as a model (it well known UK is the better model all over the world) and behead our absolute monarch (do you remenber Charles Ist and the British republic and Cromwell?). I observe most of the world nations chose to become republic and not monarchy. I've heard too that some british want the royalty abolition? At least, UK would leave its reactionnary habits for modernity .
frenchiecocorico1 3 months ago
You monarchists live in a fantasy world. France will never again be ruled by a King and the so called Holy Roman Empire is DEAD FOREVER!
AndyHandy2010 3 months ago
Imagine this could be the King of France, Georg of Hohenzollern the Emperor of Germany and Leopold of Bavaria on the english throne, what a glamouros world it could be......
ursus911 3 months ago
@ursus911 You're a slave, the greatest Western civilizations have always been anti monarchist. From democratic Athens and republican Rome to the United States of America.
Only slaves wish to bow to other human beings whose only claim to fame is their daddy's sperm.
ImaginedWriter 3 months ago
@ImaginedWriter I dont want to be a slave of Stalin or Pol Pot nor Hitler or Kim, I would prefer to live in a land like Sweden or Britain with a constitutional and independent monarch. Dont forget, Chomeinis servants murdered ten times as many people than the shahs savak. A bavarian/latin phrase says vox populi - vox Rindvieh
( bull ) and thats right in most cases, swiss democracy not included.....
ursus911 3 months ago
@ursus911 Glamourous is the word....Glamour is a stupid vision printed on magazines for people who live in a shitty world....just like two centuries before...
Dixav77 3 months ago
@olbodala Tienes una mentalidad negativa. La expulsion de los judios de Espana en 1492 robo' Espana de un grupo de personas de grandes talentos para desarrollar el comercio y asi' nunca se pudo dessarrollar bien la clase media en Espana con aquella mentalidad reaccionaria y restrictiva.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
Le traité d'Utrecht à interdit aux descendants de Charles V d'Espagne (le premier Bourbon d'Espagne) la couronne de France. Vive Henri VII !
JAM5227 3 months ago
@JAM5227 No Carlo V (quien no ha existido) sino Felipe V. Carlos IV era el ultimo Rey Carlos. Carlos V era imperador del Sacro Imperio Romano de los Alemanes y era Habsburgo.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
@FRAGIORGIO1 Thanks for correcting, I got mixed up with the names. I'm talking about the the grandson of Louis XIV who later became king of Spain.
JAM5227 3 months ago
@JAM5227 I understand. We all make mistakes. (I have even made a few Myself... and on Youtube !) . Best wishes.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
He is the last Heir of the Lancastrians via Elisabeth Farnese and Evreux and the Valois via Henry IV of France in short the warring clans that warred for the succession in the Hundred Years War of France had been merged and Louis XX is the descendant of all these lines.;)
mimeyochan 3 months ago 2
don Luis Alphonso de Borbón, rey de Francia
GRANBESTIA 4 months ago 2
@GRANBESTIA louis alphonse de bourbon roi de rien du tout!!!
mardochee2009 3 months ago
Moi, je suis désolé de l'injuste anarchie républicaine que certains français ont fait installée en France par la force. VIVE LA LIBERTE! VIVE L'EGALITE! VIVE LA FRATERNITE! VIVE LA MONARCHIE! VIVE LE ROI DE FRANCE! VIVE LA FRANCE!
YaakovSarafian 4 months ago 2
nous sommes très fiers de la république que nos vaillants anciens ont instaurés et pour rien au monde nous ne retournerions à l'injuste et archaïque système de la monarchie. VIVE LA FRANCE, VIVE LA LIBERTÉ, VIVE LA RÉPUBLIQUE!
groscondu75 4 months ago
vive le roi
bazzatheblue 4 months ago 4
Sommes-nous donc si nombreux à chérir l'idée d'un avènement proche de Louis de Bourbon ?
sethocrator 4 months ago
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powerdriller10 4 months ago
@powerdriller10
If you wan't it so bad how anout you volunteer to go first.
poodtang1 4 months ago
JGdW : L'idéologie communiste dans le monde a tué plus de 100 millions de personnes. Aucune autre idéologie dans l'histoire de l'humanité n' est aussi mortifère. Elle a été déclarée "génocidaire" et devrait être interdite au nom des droits de l'homme et du respect de la vie humaine.Tout le reste n'est que du babillage.
jeanguydewargny 4 months ago
long live the royal houses of europe
marckokmarc 4 months ago 2
Basura
eslovia 4 months ago
Vive le Roy!
Vive la France!
Mehmetuzguhl 4 months ago 4
I have two question: he's not descendant of franco? will not it be a little awkward?; and for primogeniture, shouldn't be him the king of spain?
haborublume1 5 months ago
@haborublume1 It should not be a problem that he is a descendant of Franco. Many families, both royal and Non-royal, have had ancestors that were popular to some and hated by others. The important thing is that he is the legitimate heir to the throne of France. Spain has its own legitimate heirs (Bourbons also) in King Juan Carlos and Principe de Asturias Felipe.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
Vive le Royaume de France
Vive le tsar Alexandre I
MrHanz13 5 months ago 3
@MrHanz13 I have understood that the most recognizes heir to the Russian Imperial throne is the Grand Duchess Maria.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
GLOIRE AU ROY DE FRANCE ! GLOIRE A LA PATRIE ! GLOIRE AU CHRIST !
Laurentinum 5 months ago 9
GUILLOTINE
douloteros 5 months ago
Vive notre Roy !!!
Mika071282 5 months ago 2
Vive le Roy !
slot6768 5 months ago 2
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Ridicule ! Qu'ils aillent au diable ces parasites ! a mort la royauté !
Frenchkisssss 5 months ago
mon cul !
Frenchkisssss 5 months ago
@Frenchkisssss Estas ofreciendolo?
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
There is No "throne of France". There was a revolution, remember that? The notion of "royalty" is ridiculous. Why would a country choose this nonsense?
Discoboy504 5 months ago
@Discoboy504 "There is no 'democracy'. There was the Divine Right of Kings, remember that? The notion of 'representation' is ridiculous. Why would a country choose this non-sense?"
BVB09Fanatic 5 months ago
@BVB09Fanatic The Divine Right of Kings is ancient history. Look at all the democratic, constitutional monarchies of northern Europe and Spain. The royals are very popular and are non-political. The monarch serves as Head of State, but the Head of Government is a Prime Minister, or could be a President of the Council of Ministers, or Chancellor, or whatever, either directly elected by the People or the leader of the principal party in parliament. Not a problem.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
@FRAGIORGIO1 Ancient history? I suppose. My point is that governmental systems are only as good as the people that want them. If the people of France wanted an administrative/constitutional/absolute/etc. monarchy - who are we to tell them know? The Right of Self-Determination.
BVB09Fanatic 3 months ago
@Discoboy504 Because it is economically sound, and would promote a heck of a lot of tourism!
1toscany 4 months ago 3
@Discoboy504 Because each country has its history and culture. DeGaulle spoke of the Europe of the "Patries" (Fatherlands), and he was right. Northern Europe is full of popular, democratic constitutional monarchies where the non-political historical unity of the country is affirmed in the royal family and particularly in the monarch. The European constitutional monarchies are Very Popular and serve as Heads of State and promoters of the national consciousness and unity.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
@Discoboy504 Actually, there were Several revolutions all with differing reasons and results. Which one are you referring to? Choosing something that is part of the history and culture of a nation is not ridiculous, as long as it is firmly encrusted within the constitutional democratic set-up of a country, such as Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, the United Kingdom, etc., nations with a Solid Democratic Monarchical history and constitution.
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Discoboy504 5 months ago
How can he be heir to a throne that doesn't exist anymore?
mmmmmvodka 5 months ago
@mmmmmvodka the french are saving him
045454kgg 5 months ago
@mmmmmvodka, he can't. He simply claims it as a pretender.
sandinyourshoes 5 months ago
@mmmmmvodka The French can restore what historically existed, although in different (constitutional democratic) conditions.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
it must be wonderful to be so handsome and heir to the throne...what a life!!
taf7060 6 months ago
VIVE LA D.E.M.O.C.R.A.T.I.E !!! Le peuple français, NOTRE peuple n'a pas fait une révolution pour rien. En tout cas pas pour qu'on se prosterne devant quelqu'un car personne ne vaut plus qu'un autre. Sa fille de 4 ans duchesse pff regardez moi ça mais pourquoi ça existe encore ça?!! Que des titres heureusement mais quand même. A peine née qu'elle est déjà placée au dessus des autres. Ridicule c'est le mot que je cherchais. Il faut qu'ils redescendent sur terre
InoYamanaka016 6 months ago
@InoYamanaka016 Tolérance tu connais ? tu tiens un discours pas très démocrate^^ et la liberté des gens ? tous ne peuvent pas être d'accord sur un choix politique...
benjiAkatosh 6 months ago
@benjiAkatosh Je n'interdis à personne de préférer un régime quelconque j'essaie juste de vous faire ouvrir les yeux et de donner mon point de vue je ne dit pas non plus que c'est le meilleur juste celui qui me semble le plus juste au jour d'aujourd'hui, après libre à chacun d'idolâtrer quelqu'un qui soit y en repassant n'a pas plus de valeur que nous mais bref mon commentaire précédant a été écrit sous un accès de colère, surement le fait de les voir poser comme si ils y étaient déjà...
InoYamanaka016 6 months ago
@InoYamanaka016 Vous faites une grave confusion entre une forme de gouvernement (monarchie - république) et un type de gouvernement (démocratie - oligarchie - dictature). Regardez l'exemple espagnol. Qui c'est qui a imposé la démocratie, et qui a tenu bon face au coup d'état militaire de 1981? Le Roi, et un Bourbon en plus !!! Comme quoi... Et une République peut être bien moins démocratique qu'une monarchie. Exemple de ces Républiques : Corée du Nord, Libye, Chine, et j'en passe.
Nostronflamel 4 months ago 3
@Nostronflamel République démocratique de Chine c'est comme République démocratique de Russie du temps de l'URSS le mot République c'est juste pour la forme ^^ et la Libye bah maintenant c'est en transition la question est est-ce que ça va devenir un véritable pas démocratique.
Thragorn 3 months ago
@Nostronflamel Oui, il semble me souvenir que le roi en Espagne a été mis en place par un dictateur (général Franco) dont il a été jusqu'à sa mort le protégé et le factotum, au point même de bousculer à son avantage l'ordre de succession au trône (coup d"état monarchique) qui aurait dû revenir à son père (un opposant acharné à la dictature sanguinaire de Franco pour son plus grand honneur)?
frenchiecocorico1 3 months ago
@InoYamanaka016 Democracy is not excluded from a constitutional monarchy. Rather, modern monarchy is very democratic, as in the UK, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Luxembourg, Spain, Japan, to name some of the most prominent Democratic Monarchies. Those are very Solidly democratic societies and the monarchs and royal families are very Popular there. How popular are elected political leaders?? Constitutional monarchs are non-political Heads of State with many duties.
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
@InoYamanaka016 Los nombres no son un problem. No hay reinas de belleza o de la festival de cerezas. etc/? La princesa de primavera y de un espectaculo de autos nuevos? Te parece problema de que hay Presidentes, jueces, alcaldes (mayeurs0, generles?
FRAGIORGIO1 3 months ago
JUDE Republique MERDE! JUDE SARKOZY MERDE!!!
BRING BACK THE MONARCH! THE TRUE FRANCE!
Wisdomfanatic2011 6 months ago 2
@Wisdomfanatic2011 Yes, bring back the Bourbons as constitutional monarchs of a democratic France. The Jews are a worthy part of the French nation. President Sarkozy is respected internationally, but his destiny is for the French People to decide.
FRAGIORGIO1 6 months ago
what is the name of louis wife? is she french?
MyLalinea 6 months ago
@MyLalinea Maria. Yes she is ...
1toscany 4 months ago
A bas la Republique!
ivaflimkien 6 months ago
Quelle bande de tarés!!!!! Quels mythomanes!!!!!Ils ont oublié que l'on a raccourci leur ancêtre en 1793?
ametrus 7 months ago
@ametrus Apparently you have forgotten the Great Louis XIV and the good Louis Philippe. It is true that Louis XV and XVI were mediocre and not able to handle the Etat handed to them by Louis XIV. For that reason, a constitutional monarchy is more nearly ideal, wherein the monarch has little to do politically. That task is for the elected representatives of the French People.
FRAGIORGIO1 6 months ago
vive le roi, et à bas cette fausse démocratie, dirigée par les juifs
freoltic 7 months ago
Well, well, well... Seems that the Dauphin is not the only one who has the right to the throne. A nother Prince showed up. One Closer to the Bourbogne blood line.
marcellanuin 7 months ago
is this guy chrstian????
BruteHunter259 7 months ago