Well done to the people who restored this, it must have been very difficult to deduce the 2 playback speeds and synchronise the sound and picture, but I feel from looking at Dickson's bow changes that the picture is still slightly behind the sound.
Edison tried to do "sound on set" which, with a wax cylinder would have been virtually impossible; it didn't occur to him or Dickson to just film the scene and then created the sound to the photographed picture as was done HERE in about 1914:
watch?v=a7cF0nw5S-g
Easily amplified with the Victor Auxetophone (no electronics involved) this could have been a real reality.
Awesome, truly. I'd seen this clip before somewhere but never knew till now that it had been made with the sound accompaniment. Thanks much for posting this.
The male romance was way more edgy and daring than it was in Brokeback Mountain, simply given the period. The way that they dance, the expression in their faces, they know that their love was not meant to be.
@srbinsiti I properly use the word "inestimable" and you focus on the colloquialism "ain't"? Your critical affectation toward this most droll of subject matter is downright comical, ain't it? :-)
@srbinsiti You know, hate is an ugly thing and does no one any good.
Now, I do find it ironic that you find the gall to critique my "American English" whilst you yourself use improper punctuation. Cheeky. If the highlight of your day is trolling around internet postings looking for any small thing to criticize, ridicule, or deride to feed your over-indulged sense of self-aggrandizement, then I can only imagine how lonely you must be.
@freakybuzz That is very adultish from you,seriously.Just forget what i said about ain't,i mean,i can't understand why are you converting british english into americna english.
A cinema landmark! The first instance of a sound film, showing the concept existed at its infancy. The idea even predated Edison - he got it from Muybridge in 1888. Thank you!
I've listened carefully to the words being spoken before the music starts & discovered the very first phrase ever being spoken in a sound synchronized film. It's not mentioned in the introduction + I heard a word that sounds different to my ears than what's being indicated in the introduction. A voice (Dickson I assume) says:
"What happened to 'Wessie'"? (or possibly 'Bessie'?)"'Is'the rest of you ready?",(not 'are'), "Go ahead!" I'm 100% sure of this, I listened to it about 20 times.
@najl33zz421 i agree that the first sentence must be "what happened to bessie?" although the 'b' sounds distorted and therefore one can make up 'w' out of it.
but the next sentence sounds more like:
"is the rest of you IN HERE" or "is the rest of you in IT"
origionally they couldnt get it to work, so they abandoned the project.possibly the problem is that its not at 24 frames per second.does anyone know the origional frame rate?
actually, it would have been a variable frame rate, as cameras at the time were generally hand cranked. thereby, the speed of the operator's cranking would dictate the frame rate, slowing and speeding up.
according to wikipedia, walter murch calculated the average frame rate to be about 40 fps, yet at a running time of 17 seconds it seems to be closer to an average of 37.5 fps.
i love that video, the dickson Experimental Sound Film P.S. if the museum sold that cylinder,how much would it cost? P.P.S. i like your style! from: paulstriper24
I have no idea how much it would cost today, I imagine quite a bit. Thanks for the compliment, but this film was actually digitized, synchronized, and edited by Walter Murch. Read the story of its restoration in its "About This Video" blurb, its pretty interesting.
Yes, it was providential that the broken cylinder was preserved. Both motion pictures AND phonographs were in their infancy. Trying to synchronize sound & picture was a trrying process. Watch "Singing in the Rain" for a hilarious story of the business, the part on trying to film "Dueling Cavaliers"
so so great! what a treasure - thanks for posting!
zenarchitect 3 months ago
Well done to the people who restored this, it must have been very difficult to deduce the 2 playback speeds and synchronise the sound and picture, but I feel from looking at Dickson's bow changes that the picture is still slightly behind the sound.
wks1978 4 months ago
In my history class, this video became known as "Two Dudes, One Violin"
PaniniButt 4 months ago
I Have Nightmares With This Song, :(
Excuse Me, My English Is Not Good, But i Speak Spañish (Im Venezuelan xD)
Thanks Of Lot For This Video, Is A Diamond Of The History
ThEDarKMasterBlack 4 months ago
First ever video to music
So the first known music video
drapermovies 5 months ago
Edison tried to do "sound on set" which, with a wax cylinder would have been virtually impossible; it didn't occur to him or Dickson to just film the scene and then created the sound to the photographed picture as was done HERE in about 1914:
watch?v=a7cF0nw5S-g
Easily amplified with the Victor Auxetophone (no electronics involved) this could have been a real reality.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
that dancing is so homosexual and their expression is NOT AMUSED
Ps3Aaron1 5 months ago
This is better than Rebecca Black
dentonscheibal3 6 months ago
I wanna see it on MTV, now XD !
Nostalgico80 7 months ago
Ahh! The first 'music video' ever in history!
This is absolutely amazing. I love the 1800s.
TheSecrecyOfSolitude 8 months ago 2
how do you know that cone shaped thing on the left isnt the wax cylinder?
fatcatbeauty 9 months ago
@fatcatbeauty You're absolutely correct; we can all handily see how it is rotating, getting all the sound down!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
Most clumsy and awkward dancers ever!
samfordbulldog09 10 months ago
LOL I love the 2 guys dancing "you be the girl" "no you!"
mypureimagination 11 months ago
This aint a good music video lol
coolboy30000 11 months ago
kinda creepy..
MorgueSweetHome 1 year ago
Awesome, truly. I'd seen this clip before somewhere but never knew till now that it had been made with the sound accompaniment. Thanks much for posting this.
bluetruckredstate 1 year ago
RODGERS and Hammerstein.
livewire242 1 year ago
only 10.000 views for something so insightfull. It's a shame not manny people realize how amazing film and sound are, and how far we are now.
DiederikYBaan 1 year ago
I liked the book better.
Zeanu 1 year ago 2
And I thought The Matrix Reloaded was confusing. :)
brnleague99 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Is this on DVD?
Caleb0014 1 year ago
Is this on DVD?
Caleb0014 1 year ago
Brilliant work,especially getting rid of the clicks.
The music is "from the light opera The Chimes of Normandy by Jean Robert Planquette" apparently.
Could hear all the words, right from "What happened to......"
I wonder how they decided on what to record, both senses?
The words are legible but they didn't exactly make it easy.
uranrising 1 year ago
No one can read that small text
deconstructionist67 2 years ago
This is a treasure!
lolitafrankenstein 2 years ago
lol look at that terrible dancing
Mumusthereal 2 years ago
good show
really good show
edison was s o brainy thanks to that present to him that animation toy. then eh bore the idea of recording motion.
perfect simply wondeful.
rweerakkody4565 2 years ago
not too shabby when you concidder all we have now is compressed digital AVC264 and mp3 not exactly a step up in over a hundred years
woodlanduk 2 years ago
Didnt they have Violin lessons back then?
FishType1 2 years ago
What do you guys think of the film? I dont like the plot, but the sub-plot was ok.
calimar28 2 years ago 50
Two thumbs from me, definately better than any of the garbage Ang Lee has made.
doddsino 2 years ago
The male romance was way more edgy and daring than it was in Brokeback Mountain, simply given the period. The way that they dance, the expression in their faces, they know that their love was not meant to be.
darthzach 2 years ago 3
@calimar28 I found the dancing a tad homoerotic. Can you imagine being gay in the 1890s? Talk about fun!
MrDukemeister 6 months ago
@MrDukemeister Well, it wasnt called "the gay 90's" for nothing!
calimar28 6 months ago
Bad violin playing.
Good sound.
Thanks for posting.
somefreak90 2 years ago 4
The dancing ain't so great, either. :-)
But seriously, being as this was an experiment, it's historical value is inestimable.
freakybuzz 2 years ago 27
That's right the historical value is priceless. Mind you its a shame they didn't also record somebody speak or sing as well as the violin.
garyturner96 2 years ago
@freakybuzz it is not ain't,it is isn't.
srbinsiti 1 year ago
@srbinsiti I properly use the word "inestimable" and you focus on the colloquialism "ain't"? Your critical affectation toward this most droll of subject matter is downright comical, ain't it? :-)
freakybuzz 1 year ago
@freakybuzz i just hate your american english!
srbinsiti 1 year ago
@srbinsiti You know, hate is an ugly thing and does no one any good.
Now, I do find it ironic that you find the gall to critique my "American English" whilst you yourself use improper punctuation. Cheeky. If the highlight of your day is trolling around internet postings looking for any small thing to criticize, ridicule, or deride to feed your over-indulged sense of self-aggrandizement, then I can only imagine how lonely you must be.
freakybuzz 1 year ago 2
@freakybuzz That is very adultish from you,seriously.Just forget what i said about ain't,i mean,i can't understand why are you converting british english into americna english.
srbinsiti 1 year ago
A cinema landmark! The first instance of a sound film, showing the concept existed at its infancy. The idea even predated Edison - he got it from Muybridge in 1888. Thank you!
gdw1910 2 years ago 4
trippy
TheClassicalLiberal 3 years ago
I've listened carefully to the words being spoken before the music starts & discovered the very first phrase ever being spoken in a sound synchronized film. It's not mentioned in the introduction + I heard a word that sounds different to my ears than what's being indicated in the introduction. A voice (Dickson I assume) says:
"What happened to 'Wessie'"? (or possibly 'Bessie'?)"'Is'the rest of you ready?",(not 'are'), "Go ahead!" I'm 100% sure of this, I listened to it about 20 times.
najl33zz421 3 years ago
Most of the voice is too faint to hear. The only think I can make out is at the end when he says: 'Go ahead.'
garyturner96 2 years ago
@najl33zz421 i agree that the first sentence must be "what happened to bessie?" although the 'b' sounds distorted and therefore one can make up 'w' out of it.
but the next sentence sounds more like:
"is the rest of you IN HERE" or "is the rest of you in IT"
kornol 8 months ago
origionally they couldnt get it to work, so they abandoned the project.possibly the problem is that its not at 24 frames per second.does anyone know the origional frame rate?
bkgartist 3 years ago 2
12 fps.
secondchance1977 3 years ago
actually, it would have been a variable frame rate, as cameras at the time were generally hand cranked. thereby, the speed of the operator's cranking would dictate the frame rate, slowing and speeding up.
according to wikipedia, walter murch calculated the average frame rate to be about 40 fps, yet at a running time of 17 seconds it seems to be closer to an average of 37.5 fps.
alexqatsi 3 years ago
Seriously awesome! but you (not belowline)just have to get past that thumping sound to really enjoy the film. :D
coreyteen13 3 years ago 4
i love that video, the dickson Experimental Sound Film P.S. if the museum sold that cylinder,how much would it cost? P.P.S. i like your style! from: paulstriper24
PaulStryper24 3 years ago 5
I have no idea how much it would cost today, I imagine quite a bit. Thanks for the compliment, but this film was actually digitized, synchronized, and edited by Walter Murch. Read the story of its restoration in its "About This Video" blurb, its pretty interesting.
belowline 3 years ago 2
Yes, it was providential that the broken cylinder was preserved. Both motion pictures AND phonographs were in their infancy. Trying to synchronize sound & picture was a trrying process. Watch "Singing in the Rain" for a hilarious story of the business, the part on trying to film "Dueling Cavaliers"
EmmetEarwax 1 month ago
Love it ! Thanx belowline !
Hugo1138 4 years ago 4