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  • thanks for the great video and song ,,,,, not in the hall of fame????  incredible!!!!

  • Hey without Horns it wouldn't be Chicago.......

  • Live horns in harmony...it just doesn't get any better than this!

  • 100

  • I think the horns are quite subtle and tasteful on this song. If you listen closely, they're just playing fleshed-out arrangements of lines that were already present in the keyboards in the original anyway.

  • @musicpower84 Where can I send some audition tapes so you can critique them since you seem to be a great critic-NOT First of all this is a rehearsal taken from RAW(Real Artists Working)and Chicago just happened to be one of a few groups that participated in this.I have this on VHS and DVD and this particular copy just doesnt give it justice but to sit here and bash Jason and Tris says alot about your lack of musical ear.Jason has been with the group longer than Peter so except it already

  • The trumpet still sounds nice

  • They are timeless!!

  • Chicago is my favorite group of all time!!!!! I love the music, the lyrics, the singing, and they have the best horn secton, ever!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jason fit this band well -That is why we still talk of him 24 years later: To reunite with Cetera would be a slap in Scheff's face! The sound here is dead as many rehearsals tend to be - Enjoy Jason _ He was damn good for the band and for their continuing legacy-We all know it - Why do we have to speak of ghosts? Cetera was often not that good live-and I liked Pete!

  • they ruined "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" with horns.

    if you hear Jason Scheff's original demo it is much better

    without horns

  • nice socks bill

  • 中学の先生が授業の前に流して聞かせてくれたな・・・

  • LOVE Robert, Lee, Jimmy, and Walt... Too bad Danny and Peter aren't still there.. They ARE missed by Chicago's older fans... The ones who ENJOYED reading the liner notes on the sleeves of the lp's!!

  • This was a rehearsal before the tour in 2000. They rehearsed in a studio in Hawaii . The band had been off for a while as you can tell by the performance. I'm assumimg they recorded this to show the difference between an unrehearsed Chicago and the finished product that went on the road.

  • haha look at 2:40, Keith is always funny

    ;-D love his playing he´s the man. great song

  • This performance sadly depicts the waning vocal quality of both Jason and Bill. Jason can't hit the high notes any longer, nor can he hold the midrange for more than a few seconds. As for Champlin, his voice is so far gone that a man with a gunshot wound to the head and shrapnel vocally lodged would sound much better.

  • @RavishingBeyond

    Bill sounds good in the first verse. It's hard for older men to sing high, and I don't know why they don't hire someone to come in and sing, even a female singer - could put a nice new turn on the corpus of their work.

  • @equesfuscus Chicago needs to remain an ALL male band!!! Leave well enough alone.

  • I TOTALLY agree!! Jason will NEVER even tap into Peter Cetera's vocal range and Bill Champlin...GLAD HE'S FINALLY GONE!! YAY!! Boz Scaggs or Michael McDonald would've been okay to sub for Terry... NOBODY... I mean NOBODY ... will E-V-E-R "replace" Terry Kath.. THAT goes without saying!!

  • I think this song was written by composer Tom Keane. Jason Scheff used to sing with Tom and his brother John in the 80's band KEANE. (not the British group of today).

  • his voice seems different from the ones in CD`s

  • good

  • Cetera?? didn't Jason write this?? Cetera never sang this. I love Jason on this.

  • David Foster -- can't you tell from the chord changes? :-)

  • @greg1973sf

    Well said. Foster wrote most of what is out there! David Foster is the real magician behind the scenes of a lot of music.

  • JASON SING WELL THIS THEME GOOD

  • This song dates to 1986, so would this particular rehearsal date from back then?

  • This is from the 2000's.

  • DAMN... i paused it @ 1:20 cause i thought i had mail :S haha:P

  • @dathomaz HAHHAA ME TOO

  • how does Robert Lamm not age :)

  • No kidding. I first saw him in 98 and recently in 08 and he looks the same

  • he sell the soul to the devil!!!

  • What a cool video! It's not like we can see this on TV every day...Thank you so much for sharing!

  • Drummer kinda looks like Don Henley

  • I'm amazed by the fact that a bunch of loser kids can hit on a 40-50 professional singer... Does nopast68 know about music at all??? Is any of you aware of the awful mix that we get to listen to (voice-in-your-face, no effects at all (reverb, etc.))? I would give a lot to see you and hear you perform on stage... Professional bass player AND singer speaking.

    P.S. Peter Cetera never sang and will never sing this song ever although he's an awesome singer. Period.

  • Besides the fact that if you listen to Cetera now, he's not vocally able to sing this song. I love Peter and he's a great performer, but he just can't hit those notes like he used to.

  • Sorry, Cetera play this song and very well.

  • cetera wasnt in this song at all, lol

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  • You people are dorks. This is 1980s Chicago: The sell out p*ssy band who lost their roots!

  • bm bichera

  • This song sounds good with the horns also

  • For a power ballad, not a bad song on the album. But Jason is SO awful here, live...

  • umm.. it's a rehearsal?

  • the horns are to good. they make chicago that much better.

  • you really guys are awesome!, jason scheff is really a kind of good looking man and i love it!

    keep it up guys!

  • I love this song so much... it's classic. But I'd rather hear cetera sing this song. Scheff looks like gained weight here.

  • What are you talking about?? Peter Cetera never sung this song! It was written and produced for Jason to perform in 1987. I hate people who don't know anything about Chicago spilling their two cents.

  • I KNOW that this was sung/recorded by Jason Scheff. I only meant that I love Peter's singing more than Jason's ergo it would be great if Peter would do this song (at least for me). Got that, Mr. Know-it-all?????

  • very realistic..

    it seems like jason never gets old..

    he looks the same from 1987..

    and chicago still got it..!

  • I always prefer this introduction to the song...Beautiful ascending/descending piano..

  • this 80s songs wouldn't have been so awful if there had been some trace of horns, which is what made chicago different from every other band. Nice to see they added it during live concerts

  • I can see your desire to include the horns in all the songs because that is the purpose behind Chicago, right? But I dont think this song was awful at all. I think this song was just awesome the way it was. It was selfish of David Foster to make the horn section so scarce during his productions but this song awful? I dont think so.....

  • @musicispower84 the record companies told chicago they would bring them back in if they left the horns out.

  • Is it me or is Jason's mic usually turned lower than Bill's? He always drowns Jason out, especially when they harmonize. I know Jason has a more important role as far as vocals go. It's terrible sometimes because I know he pounds the hell out of his vocal chords to hit those notes he used to hit and Cetera too. I have respect for Bill but I never cared much for him. No offense to you Champlin lovers.

  • haha i hope not but mabye

  • Listen to the live and solo version then.

  • pimptaddy1, seems like you've forgotten that this is a rehearsal.

  • Cetera never sang Will You Still Love Me, This is Scheff's premiere song off the Chicago 18 album. It doesn't sound as good Live, but what song ever does? I thought he was an awesome replacement. There is only one Cetera, but give Scheff some credit, he ain't that bad..

  • Thank you! Exactly. I love Cetera but Scheff is good too.

  • Yeah, hes not as good as Cetera. Sometimes he tries sounding like him. We all know thats impossible. I do enjoy the insturmental though.

  • Chicago Kicks! Theyre like "White Commodores".hehe. Good song awsome video.

  • This is my favorite Chicago song and this goes to my wife Analy

  • Vid was made during summer of 2000 or 2001 in California. It was created as a "backstage" look into Chicago and their rehearsal preparations for a live

    show. This is (or was) available as a DVD and is called Chicago R.A.W. (Real Artists Working). Each member of the band is interviewed and gives comments about their instrument and how they got started as musicians. It is a unique perspective of the band.

  • I myself am a musician, but Bill always makes the funniest facial expressions whenever he sings, lol!

  • does anyone know what year this video was made?

  • i don't get it you people keep saying chicago isn't as good as before but as i can remember there isn't a band that had stayed around for as long as they did so obviously there doing something right

  • legendary..their instruments doest like the original version style..

  • I'm neutral on the Peter vs. Jason debate The single most underrated move the band ever made was bringing in Bill Champlin. Bill has made the band shine through both the Cetera and Scheff eras. And Jimmy Pankow kicks serious ass.

  • Let me help you Tages72 on the Peter vs. Jason debate. Chicago with Cetera singing lead or duet, 12 #1 hits. With Jason 1 #1 hit. Cetera solo career, 5 #1 hits. Scheff 0! Last two albums with Cetera (16 & 17) went #9 & #4 on the Billboard Charts. Highest Chicago has gone since the departure of Cetera, #35. Note, Jason has been with Chicago longer than Peter was with them. Thus, if Jason is as good as Peter, he should have had "some" hits. Is there really a debate?

  • There is one because people will argue over anything nowadays. I don't care who charted the most, nor do I mind if you prefer to compare the two. Peter fans should enjoy his music just as Jason fans should stick with his. Better yet, just be a fan of the band as a whole and appreciate the other members' contributions. That's the whole point of my previous post.

  • You're right Tages72! I guess I'm still upset that Cetera left and Kath passed-on and felt at both times the group should have split; thus any replacement, Dacus, Champlin, Scheff, Imboden or Howland cannot not live up to the standards of the origianl members. I know Jason is doing his best, and saw him in concert right after Cetera left. He's alright! I guess I get upset when someone states that the new member is better than the old member. I'm just an old fan of the originals.

  • I read ya, man. I discovered the band in 1986. I did get Peter's solo album along with Chicago 18 since I was aware that Peter's leaving was a huge change. Later on, I learned the band had started out as The Big Thing/Chicago Transit Authority and the switch to a more commercial Pop sound. I was saddened to hear how Terry died, and I know he was an excellent musician in his own right. I respect the originals and like I said before, Jimmy Pankow still rules!

  • Guys, I've been reding your comments and agree with you both.

    To me, the evolution of Chicago has been some kind of well managed, eventhough we all would like to see the original band reunited, I think we should appreciate each stage (of the 5) as a very unique one. late 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000. The most important thing here (I guess)is that the band has somekind of DEEP ROOTS that have been maintining these guys alive and unified for so long such as 4 decades.

  • "They don't make them like they used to" if we talk in proffesional musical terms. Just check it out all the new bands and compare the "school" of each of the memebers of the band, they all are PROFFESIONALS. Long live to Chicago!!!!

  • Ofcourse they can still play it by memory. First off the song is incredibly easy for the horn section. it's a few blats and runs. These guys probably still have songs memorised from high school and JR. high marchign band. Considering the amount of tiems they've done this material ... yeah it's still memorised, no they don't need charts, they could literaly play this stuff in thier sleep. Actually the sax player I think IS ASLEEP. he still sounds great

  • Funny to see the horns sitting to rehearse. With 40 years of arrangements interesting to know where they store horn arrangments, is it all stored in computers now? does the horn section ever have to pull out actual charts to refresh before tours or is it possible they keep all this stuff memorized?

  • saxo instrument in this vids..made crucial, crashin.

  • It's amazing how well the horns still sound after all these years.

  • Walter plays the sax but in the video of this song he has a guitar thats odd.

  • walter doesn't have a guitar

  • I wish Danny Seraphine was still in the band

  • Me too..... As i've said repeatedly, he brought an element Tris lacks totally, and that's presence and electricity. Each time Danny hit a drum, you can tell he put his passion into it and it made the drums stand out. No offense to Trisfans, but each time I've seen Tris do drums, he doesn't make as much noise as Danny Seraphine did so the drumming sounds weak when Tris does it live.

  • Jason Rocks

  • Jason Sings circles around Cetera. Listen to peter live.

    It's not that great.

  • Yea, yea, and pass the bong... Cetera is a living legend. Who has ever heard of Jason Scheff and he has been in the band 22 years.

  • i am so tired of people comparing peter cetera to jason scheff if he was so bad why don't people try to do a better job and plus they brought jason when chicago was very popular. so people have to quit comparing peter and jason

    they both are great singers

  • I agree with asuna101

  • Jason and Peter have brought alot of good memories to Chicago.

  • I prefer Peter.......

  • Anyone know about what year these rehearsal videos were shot?

  • 2003

  • @cetera06...this actually was from 2000.

    

  • @traceww keith is there ... so i knew it was at least 1995

  • Leave Jason alone! He's a great singer. Stop comparing him to Peter. he's a singer in his own right! I love him!

  • Besides, this is Jason's tune. Peter never sang this.

  • have a little mercy with jason ...hahaha

  • it's just lame how he tries so hard to mimic Peter Cetera's voice, good song or not

  • baloney! jason sounds GREAT as a bass player and singer. he did hit a slightly flat note at approximately 00:56 seconds but does a fantastic job. plus, they're rehearsing and smart singers don't go all out in rehearsal in order to conserve their voice.

  • TRUE!

  • jason scheff is okay but not as good as peter

  • Personally, I like the first Darin on Bewitched better than the second one.

  • the lead singer jason sounds like crap.He should be kicked out of chicago.

  • He should be given more credit. This was after all, a rehearsal. He does have a good voice and I know he cracks and goes flat a lot but he knows people who are not hardcore musicians wont appreciate the song unless it's in the original key it was recorded and he does that with every song he performs. It increases his episodes of messing the notes up sometimes but he tries. Even Cetera doesn't sing most songs in original key anymore so at least give him some leeway with that. He's trying.

  • yeah hes just savin his voice for live perfromance

  • They don't soung so good live on this song!

  • Great video. I love the intense look on Robert Lamm's face.

  • This is my fav song, and I thank you for having it.

  • Thanks Cetera for all the great video of Chicago. They are truely ledgendery. There must be a little bit of a scheff fan inside cetera06.

  • I saw this song live in 1994 and it was awesome. It sounded better than on cd.

  • Thank you for posting this. I've never heard this song Live in my life since it came out in 1986. It sounds pretty good, Jason Scheff is no Peter Cetera, but he can still hit those high notes.

  • Glad to know you liked it. As fact, I asked scheff after a concert here in Monterrey why they don´t include nothing from Chicago 18 (suchs as If She Would Have Been Faithful, or I Believe) in their concerts and told me that because of the place of the songs had in top charts in the city they visit on each concert.

  • That makes sense. I've seen them in Kansas City a couple of times and they didn't play anything from Chicago 18 either. That's one of my favorite ablbums.

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