No 2 (two) cylinder records sounded the same. They could NOT be mass stamped like the disk records today. Ways to dub them from shellac disks were devised, but not back in 1897 ! Also the dubbed records were of even lowwer fidelity than the master disk. By the time Edison perfected mass production, the cylinder record had gone out of style.
Well, when I listen to one of these cylinder records, I think of how many times a day the artists had to play & sing !
@EmmetEarwax It's not fully exact. Until a fifteen recorders per session were used. On tinfoil.com you'll see interesting pictures of that era showing this way of recording.
@philt666 Thanks phil! Good to know that information. I often wonder what buildings and so forth are left from the times since these early recordings were new. Thank again for sharing the info!
Considering the leap from those cylinders to flat discs of record players, that's a big improvement in record playing! Even the crackle sounds are cool! But when the sound comes on you can hardly hear it. I had no idea those cylinders rotated so quickly! Do you know how to fix those things should it get broken?? Just curious.
@WinterHaven Thanks for your comments! This particular cylinder is actually pretty clear from beginning to end. As far as fixing, I do any required mechanical repairs on my own machines but the records themselves really cannot be repaired, generally speaking.
@WinterHaven Yes. Just about anything mechanical that needs repair on my machines I can fix. I don't ever touch the original finish on the machines though.
@WinterHaven Thanks for the nice comments. I learned little by little by disassembling a few of my music machines and putting them back together long ago to see how they worked. It was fun for me (and still is) and I learned a lot as I discovered the subtle differences among the different machines I own.
Thanks for posting this rarity and presenting that beautiful early Columbia machine. Speaking about the duration of this recording; I have a Bettini brown wax cylinder which runs 2 minutes 51 seconds at 125rpm, how fast does this run?
@transformingArt You are most welcome! Always nice to see your comments. This cylinder plays best at about 130 rpm. I have a number of slightly earlier brown wax cylinders that play best at 120 rpm! I've never found any Bettini cylinders so you're very lucky to have found one.
@chompo7 Thanks chompo7! I'm pleased that you enjoyed this one and your comments on the Eagle are much appreciated as well. I'd not yet featured this machine on YouTube. I was pleased to find such a nice original example with an unusually quiet motor for such an early machine.
No 2 (two) cylinder records sounded the same. They could NOT be mass stamped like the disk records today. Ways to dub them from shellac disks were devised, but not back in 1897 ! Also the dubbed records were of even lowwer fidelity than the master disk. By the time Edison perfected mass production, the cylinder record had gone out of style.
Well, when I listen to one of these cylinder records, I think of how many times a day the artists had to play & sing !
EmmetEarwax 4 months ago
@EmmetEarwax It's not fully exact. Until a fifteen recorders per session were used. On tinfoil.com you'll see interesting pictures of that era showing this way of recording.
Nostalgico80 1 month ago
Great condition (I street-viewed the address, it's now the Broadway Plaza Hotel). Cheers!
philt666 1 year ago
@philt666 Thanks phil! Good to know that information. I often wonder what buildings and so forth are left from the times since these early recordings were new. Thank again for sharing the info!
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Considering the leap from those cylinders to flat discs of record players, that's a big improvement in record playing! Even the crackle sounds are cool! But when the sound comes on you can hardly hear it. I had no idea those cylinders rotated so quickly! Do you know how to fix those things should it get broken?? Just curious.
WinterHaven 1 year ago
@WinterHaven Thanks for your comments! This particular cylinder is actually pretty clear from beginning to end. As far as fixing, I do any required mechanical repairs on my own machines but the records themselves really cannot be repaired, generally speaking.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
@MusicBoxBoy You mean if you find a broken graphophone say a spring is broken, you can fix it??
WinterHaven 1 year ago
@WinterHaven Yes. Just about anything mechanical that needs repair on my machines I can fix. I don't ever touch the original finish on the machines though.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
@MusicBoxBoy *AMAZING* And you certainly do keep your machines in great working order. Where did you learn such skill?
WinterHaven 1 year ago
@WinterHaven Thanks for the nice comments. I learned little by little by disassembling a few of my music machines and putting them back together long ago to see how they worked. It was fun for me (and still is) and I learned a lot as I discovered the subtle differences among the different machines I own.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this rarity and presenting that beautiful early Columbia machine. Speaking about the duration of this recording; I have a Bettini brown wax cylinder which runs 2 minutes 51 seconds at 125rpm, how fast does this run?
transformingArt 1 year ago
@transformingArt You are most welcome! Always nice to see your comments. This cylinder plays best at about 130 rpm. I have a number of slightly earlier brown wax cylinders that play best at 120 rpm! I've never found any Bettini cylinders so you're very lucky to have found one.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
that was really fun and such a beautiful machine too!
chompo7 1 year ago
@chompo7 Thanks chompo7! I'm pleased that you enjoyed this one and your comments on the Eagle are much appreciated as well. I'd not yet featured this machine on YouTube. I was pleased to find such a nice original example with an unusually quiet motor for such an early machine.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
A 19th century Christmas in crisp, clear sound!
EdisonSquirrel 1 year ago
@EdisonSquirrel Thanks for your much appreciated and interesting comments, Rocky!
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago