God lied to us. He said the unpardonable sin is blasphemy, and that all other sins can be forgiven. However, suicide is a sin and after committing it, one has no chance of redemption. But when I blaspheme the Lord, I still have Mormons and Evangelicals knocking on my door trying to "save" me.
I remember when i was once troubled by this, but no longer :) I returned to this video incase any of my Fellow Brothers or Sisters in Christ have anything they wanna talk about if they are troubled with something :) God Bless you all
@gabox13 What do you mean by the final rejection of the holy spirit? Many people reject the holy spirit talking to them before death and then accept Jesus and are forgiven, if not I may burn in hell if you care.
@tatorsal The holy spirit is the only one that can inspire a person to accept jesus, if you reject the holy spirit, you reject the ability to accept jesus
There is no possibility of blaspheming the Holy Ghost in this current dispensation and I know that because Paul tells me concerning these gifts that when that which is perfect has come, that which is in part will be done away with
Youre going to argue this as fact, but when is the last time you seen anyone raise a man from the dead
You cannot blaspheme the Holy Ghost unless you are witness to miracles signs and wonders, and its the Jew that requires the sign. 1Cor 1:22
God offered himself as king to the Jews and they rejected and blasphemed against his will. God offered his Son to them and they rejected and blasphemed against him, the only route they had left to the throne of Glory was thru believing in the signs miracles and wonders of the Holy Ghost that were working thru Christ, If they rejected this and blasphemed against it, then they had rejected all 3 personages of the Godhead, and thus they could not be forgiven,
Christ was a man approved of God by miracles signs and wonders. Those miracles signs and wonders came by the power of the Holy Ghost.
In the OT the Jews rejected God when they chose Saul over him. In the NT the Jews rejected Christ and crucified him. Jesus was speaking to Jews there who were witnessing all the power of the Holy Ghost manifested in Christ thru miracles signs and wonders. If they rejected this, they were rejecting the power of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus had the jews affraid after mentioning the unpardonable sin. In one case jesus said the lady that paid a little to the offering really paid more then the people giving of a less percentage. They pharisies asked jesus "under what authority do you say those things?" Jesus asnswerd with his own question "Who baptised me man or god?" they replied "I dont know". They were blind from seeing who jesus was.
I think I agree with your interpretation in this specific case; but on what authority do you assert that blasphemy of the holy spirit is LIMITED to attributing its actions to the devil? For example, I deny the holy spirit entirely as an atheist. 'Miracles' of Jesus I would claim were non-miraculous if they even happened. Elsewhere in the bible, even disobeying your husband is considered blasphemy. I think, given Yahweh's character, the definition of blasphemy is likely to be inclusive.
I think that was only for people under the law. Because under grace not accepting jesus untill death is not pardoned. (Thus making all manor of sins not 100% factual.)
All the sins will be forgiven, for Jesus said after that something else : be up-to-date, Jesus!, be up-to-date. Didint Jesus change the old from the new covenant. So did He more recently whit the Divine Mercy devotion, all sins will be forgiven on the Feast of the Divine Mercy. ALL HE SAID. ALL. Be up-t--date : Catholic church.
Thanks for this video Dr Cairns...good explanation. My question is can this sin be committed in the form of an unwanted thought? I have OCD and get sick intrusive thoughts in my head at times that my my mind obsesses over. I am taking medicine for it but ever since I read Matthew 12 I get sick thoughts pop up mostly pertaining to these scriptures. I keep hearing every pastor I talk to mostly say its not a single act but a continued habitual way of leading your life till death
This is what the scriptures teach us...Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, either in this world or in the world to come. Matthew 12:32
Holy Qur'an = There is NO god but God and He has no partners in His Dominion has He is The Almighty and none are equal unto HIM....that is God.
i read all the books above and only the Qur'an is the pure words of Allah/God/Jehova/Ywe whatever blessed you know our lord by...please read em all u have 1 life to find the truth...
has a muslim...i must believe the Torah, Bible, Psalms of David and The Holy Qur'an are revelations from God/Allaah. or i'm not a true beliver!
but all the Holy books before the Qur'an (Torah, Bible) have been corupted by the hands of man...therefore Allah/God revealed The Qur'an to clean up His Religion...So IF U ARE SINCERE ABOUT WORSHIPING GOD AS HE WANTS US TO...THEN THERES IS NO OTHER WAY BUT THE QUR'AN AND ISLAM...
its in many places in the Holy Qur'an...i remember it from reading English translation of the Qur'an..as arabic is not my 1st language and i can undesrtand english better...but if u can get hold of the English meaning or translation of the Qur'an...and if u want me to find it for you let me know...peace
I would go as far as to say, blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is to reject His unction in your heart to repent from your sins and accept the sanctification of Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. To reject Jesus Christs sanctifying work on the cross is the only way anyone will not be granted acceptance into heaven, thereby making it the unpardonable sin, rejecting Christ. The Holy Spirit is the only one who can actually convert the hearts of humans and return them back to God.
jesus peace be upon him...did not die for mine or your sins he actually didnt even die...He was taken upto heaven by his and our Lord and will return to defeat the anti-christ and after that God will take Jesus's life as every man must taste death so that we can appreciate what it means to live forever...
"They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help". Qur'an - (005.072 )
"But whoso repenteth after his wrongdoing and amendeth, lo! Allah will relent toward him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful".
If you actually read the Holy Qur'an you would not be talking about "some moon god". if Allah is not God. then what word does the Arabic bible use for God. Allaah. Jesus didnt speake English. he properly used a word closer to Allaah because he was from that area.
@east2west360 You simply, like most Mulsims, do not understand the doctrine of the trinity. But then neither did your "prophet". The Quran is a distorted account. As far as Mark 10:18, Jesus was speaking of the FATHER. He himself was the SON, pointing the rich man to the one he didn't know. They are not the same person, but one in BEING. Your works will not save you from sin, trust in the word of God who was made flesh and died for your sins. He was raised from the dead for YOU.
@ARMPEERCING...i understand the trinity perfectly my friend and thats why I REJECT IT AND FEEL SAD FOR YOUR MUISGUIDED SOUL!!! Trinity is (son, father and holy spirit) and all being one but different? this must have creeped to Christianity through PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE...cos they believed in God of war, god of peace, god of love, the son of the god of peace etc etc..because no prophet from God/Allah ever preached this from Adam to Muhammed and Jesus (peace be up them all)
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.
if that is how u think .what about slavery, holacaust, the crusades etc etc...is that why u deleted your own comment as u offended your self.
I testify like every Muslim...that 'There is No god But Allaah and Muhammed is His Messenger along with every other prophet including Jesus who was the word of Allaah not his son.
"Sufficient is Allaah has a witness between you and me, He will judge between us on Judgement Day without doubt"..Read Qur'an b4 u judge it without knowledge like a fool..
She said: O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me? He said: Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, Be! and it is! (Holy Quran 3:47
ALLAH is not GOD! What god did muhammed's parents worship?or his grand parents? ALLAH was the moon god! one of many gods that were worshipped during that pantheistic culture(zoroastrianism) I"m not trying to be hateful or mean but you really should study your religion from' outside the box 'as they say. you are right though GOD is all powerful and merciful and loving, most of all that's why he sent his JESUS son to die on the cross for your sins.(not judas or anyone else!) GOD BLESS YOU.
@xem727 And may I add that Allah is not the God that Christians worship because God has a Son, that is, Jesus Christ, while Allah doesn't have a son. I pray that people will see this difference and put their faith on Jesus Christ who is the only way to God.
Wow.. So could blaspheming the Holy Spirit include those people that accuse the Bible of being 'evil' due to the graphic nature of the Old Testament- these people KNOW that God isn't evil and go on describe He and His Word as such to justify their self absorbed lives; is one who goes that far finished??
hi im dublin ireland and i wanted to say that was an excellent explanation of the blasphemy of the holy ghost. it was great to hear it in context the lord bless you Laura
Jesus was born in the age of law. Therefore, when He spoke of this age, He was speaking of the age of law,(before his substitutionary Atonement) prior to the age to come being the Church age in which we now live. It has nothing to do with eternity.
Paul said .."In Adam all die, in Christ ALL shall be made alive".I dont think that the Pharassees will be resurrected just to be told that the are going to Hell.
The love of money is a root of all evil. Come to my channel and hear who the wrath of God is revealed against and decide for yourself which people are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. The Pharisees loved money and don't you think modern day Pharisees aren't raking in the cash and deceiving nations.
Nicodemus did say 'we' know that You are a teacher come from God to Christ. It is a huge leap to say that he was speaking for all Pharisees. Plus, Jesus said whoever spoke a word against the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven. 'Whoever' includes those who speak with knowledge and those who don't.
So is it true that any nonbeliever who has never seen or believed in ghosts, can commit any sin, including blasphemy against the ghost itself, and still be forgiven in the unlikely event the ghost appears to him later in life?
'Ghost' is an old fashioned way of saying 'Spirit' in English. 'Holy Ghost' is called 'Holy Spirit' in other translations. Jesus didn't talking about seeing the spirit of a dead person. Rather, this passage is talking about the Holy Spirit of God.
I am an ex-Calvinist - now an "Old School Baptist"., I have met personally with Ian Paisley, Alan Cairs' mentor. The thing that makes Calvinism dangerous is that it runs under different banners. Paisley, of Belfast norther Ireland, a member of the board at Bob Jones University, calls himself a Fundamentalist, because it facilitates his popularity as a five point Calvinist. True doctrine of predestination is the "no-means" beliefs of the Old School Baptists. Calvinism is counterfeit Christianity!
In the early 80's, whilst in the South African army there was a particular soldier who hated anything to do with God. On a particular Thursday afternoon he screamed at amother soldier who is a christian " f*** your Holy Spirit". The next day, he was killed when testing a 3 ton armoured truck, it tipped over and he fell out and vehicle fell on him and he popped like a balloon. Soldiers in the camp who had witnessed his outburst were in deep shock and many turned to the Lord.
Wow that's deep ! What about the apostle Paul who probaly said what the christians were following was demonic or something. When he was Saul he certainly didn't believe what christians were doing was from God. He compeled them to blasheme. If someone says what christians are proclaiming is demonic , are they doomed ?
People accused Jesus of casting out demons by demonic power. He turned to them and said that they were wrong because if that was so, the satan will be operating against himself and his kingdom will fall. As Saul, Paul was just a very religious person who prided himself as acting in Gods interest but having no actual relationship with God but as Paul, he understood that Christianity was nor religion but person relationship with God and he had always been sinful.
Paul may have been a blasphemer, but he did not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. How do we know? Because he found forgiveness. Jesus specifically said that blaspheming the Son could be forgiven.
I think the key here is knowledge versus belief. As Dr. Cairns teaches, the Pharisees KNEW that God was working through Jesus, yet attributed His work to demons (They irreverently put their selfish goals above God's work). Conversely, Saul was sincerely mistaken in his accusations against Christians -- he was not purposefully making false accusations.
So many people (Christians) toss around the word "saved" or "salvation". I imagine that more often than not, they're making some allusion to hell and some sort of rescue from it.
I wonder, and you should too, if that is what Jesus meant by salvation.
Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
let's keep it simple the scribescalled the spirit working in jesus the spirit of beelzebub, they attributed the work of the holy spirit to the work of the devil. this is blashpeming theholy spirit. real simple but some want to make it hard to comprehend read it in it's context. it's clear.but don't worry you can't commit this sin any longer. according to the scholars so you don't have to watch what you call the devil. man that didn't make sense as i typed it.
I thought blashphey of the Holy Spirit was completly refusing to repent, the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, and thus dening Jesus unto death. Because if its not there would have to be 2 unforgivable sins. Please correct me if I am wrong. This is just what I had understood it to be.
This blasphemy against the HS is when they reject the HS in the Kingdom program, it is NOT meaning that we in this dispensation (Eph 3: 1-3) say a word against the Holy Spirit, Paul blasphemed, and was saved. In Acts 7, when the Israelites rejected Stephen's message, that was a clear case of blashemy against the HS. Once again, ignorance in the making. Listen--The only unpardonable sin today is , when you reject God altogether--like atheist, so they will die in their sins.
Hmm. More Kingdom theology. A person, in this age of grace, could, even as a christian, knowingly blaspheme the Holy Ghost, and still be saved.
Another example between the kingdom and law programs is where YOu shouldn't call anybody a fool, but in Galatians 3:1, Paul says, ''Oh foolish Galatians. ''
"If they don't know they are doing it then they are not doing it."
I will respectfully disagree with you on that point. I believe that many have, and are, and will continue to call the good works of God evil (for various reasons) and then go on self deluded until they come to before judgment seat. Then they will see they have done that and be grieved.
A lot of them will believe they're saved, because people tell them they are when they're not, but in the end they'll see they were deceived.
What was explained is that it is a sin that you are completely aware of, you must know that you are blaspheming the holy spirit to commit the unpardonable sin. That is what I thought he was explaining.
The saddest part of the whole thing is that some of the most pious, the most religious, people commit this sin to this very day.
They do it and don't even know it; because, unless the Holy Spirit of Christ shows them that they did it they can't see it. But they will be aware of it on the day of judgment.
Reminds me of Isaiah 5:18-24. I believe, according to that passage, we can call that unpardonable sin a work of the workers of iniquity. I also believe Hebrews 6 was referring to that sin too.
Dr. Cairns did mention "specific Pharisees". The one's who committed that sin. Obviously Saul had no contact with Jesus before the Damascus road encounter.
Great teaching, there´s still just one thing that i dont understand though.. What if one of these Pharosees, who KNEW that God was with Christ but still contributed his works to the devil would later realize that Christ really is the only way to salvation, and he would then choose to turn away from his sins en to follow Christ, would he still be forgiven, even though he commited that ' unpardonable sin' ?
I think it's a stretch to say because Nicodemus said we Know, that the same pharisees who attributed the works ocf Christ to the devil must have cetainly known it was the work of God. Jesus doesn't limit this sin to his time on earth. But i know that there are many seminarians that have gotten rid of the sin of blashpemy of the holy ghost. They need to do this so they can keep their doctrine of cessation, so they can attribute any miracle they hear about to the work of the devil without fear.
/me thinks that Cairns could say just about anything but until he says that men speak in tongues today, "loepower" is going to be critical of whatever he says. :)
I think it's kind of funny, too, how you speak against "seminarians" which would mean those who go to a place of study to learn the Bible and give forth what they believe is the best interpretation of it, and in the first part of your comment, you... give forth what you believe is the best interpretation.
I see you would LIKE to attribute my criticism of Cairns to his interpretation of tongues but that is not the case. you have a video on here about subjectively interpretitng the scriptures and these last 3 videos you have posted with Cairn all have incidents of him subjectively ineterpreting the scripture. I've found in my reasearch that usually if you are a cessationist you don't believe in the blasphemy of holy Ghost or believe in a version of it that doesn't resemble the one in the Gospel's
Can you give the primary source material and specific citations for your research?
"you have a video on here about subjectively interpretitng the scriptures and these last 3 videos you have posted with Cairn all have incidents of him subjectively ineterpreting the scripture."
I see. So are you claiming that your interpretations are the objective ones?
Also, you say, "I see you would LIKE to attribute my criticism of Cairns to his interpretation of tongues but that is not the case."
But in a previous video, you state: "Gifts of healing- gift of healing- wow this is the type of silly hair splitting That confirms to me that intellectuals were never meant to high jack the faith. ... This is blasphemous. ...Lane please don't post this guy again you are embarassing your cause."
Apparently you had a 180 between that last video and this one, huh?
My point on the tongues was his interpretation. I disagree with him on tongues but there are cessationist who do a much better job presenting the case of cessation. He superimposes the context of Christ discussion with nicodemus on The context where he's talking about blasp of holy spirit. That breaks the rules of biblical interpretation, he sets another context for the pre text of an un related situation as that said situations context.
That's like people who dismiss male headship in marriage going to a scripture where it says there is no male or female in Christ. They use the man woman connection and think they are talking about samething when one is talking about marriage, the other is talking about salvation. These are 2 entirely different situations.
Your ... leave out some things i say also. But go right ahead and keep posting this guy. His subjective interpretations are obvious to those not in your camp. If a coach on the opposite team points out where my weakness is before we take the court i'll at least try to step back and see if that weakness is there or not. Trying to give you a heads up.
Here's the comment in it's entirety. Please specifically explain to me how omitting these things for space changes the blunt of what you said. If you're silent on it, I guess we have your answer.:
"Gifts of healing- gift of healing- wow this is the type of silly hair splitting That confirms to me that intellectuals were never meant to high jack the faith. Apostles had the gift to heal so did evangelist. So he says God does not do miracles today. Wow. This is blasphemous . I've got a video of a guy who was embalmed that was raised from the dead. This is akin to unbelief. Lane please don't post this guy again you are embarassing your cause." - loepower
yes i was saying that saying God doesn't do mircles any more was blasphemous thanks for including the entire quote. Not the diferentiating of gift and gifts.
I'm sorry. Perhaps you didn't read my comment, didn't see it, or something else. I'll post it here again so you can clarify what you mean or leave it as the empty, unsubstantiated assertion that it is now based on it's own merit. Here's what I asked you to do now that I've posted your entire quote:
"Here's the comment in it's entirety. Please specifically explain to me how omitting these things for space changes the blunt of what you said."
"If a coach on the opposite team points out where my weakness is before we take the court i'll at least try to step back and see if that weakness is there or not. Trying to give you a heads up."
Yeah, thanks, because I don't think a bit about these videos before I post them. Thanks for your objective guidance.
(Sheesh. Please don't be so deluded. THAT'S embarrassing.)
Yeah. You got me i'm really embarassed and deluded. Guess you missed the point. Dude in this video and others subjectively interpreted scripture.. Plain and simple. There was a cessationist on your last video in the comments that also says that his presentation was misguided. Maybe you'll listen to an assistant coach on your own team. Peace brother .
Quit wasting my time, "loepower". Present something substantial or quit with this empty rhetoric. If you don't, I can help you with that very easily with a block button. I have much better things than reply to people who won't 1) listen and 2) back up what they say.
i read up on certain subjects and i have thoroughly studied the cessationist arguement. i study for understanding not so i can quote people verbatim.but that's what you need but we have a video(this one of a cessationist saying that blaspheming the holy spirit may bea thing of the past. i knew that he probably beleved this before you posted this video. my interpretations are based on scripure alone and cairns mishandled it. i'll do the video,hope you look at it objectively.
My problem with seminaries is that this is were these doctrines come from. Learned men who can't come to grips with something they find illogical are able to teach themselves and others how to Lawyer away a dificulty. I ,before seeing this video suspected he probably didn't believe you can commit the sin of blaspheming the holy spirit today, he probably believes no one can cast out demons today also. Certain doctrines follow one another. He only suggest this maybe the case, with unpardonable sin
"My problem with seminaries is that this is were these doctrines come from. Learned men who can't come to grips with something they find illogical are able to teach themselves and others how to Lawyer away a dificulty."
So, in your research you've never encountered people who've been to seminaries (maybe even written systematic theologies) and believe the gifts are still in operation today?
Ok Lane, of course all semanaries are not bad and all people that have gone their don't hold to the same things. My point is usually people who hold to all these things learned them not from a private study from scripture but from someone with a DR. in front of his name. It doesn't come from a plain reading of text. It takes scriptual acrbatics like ciarns does in this video to come to these conclusions.
"My point is usually people who hold to all these things learned them not from a private study from scripture but from someone with a DR."
Would you have someone do brain surgery on you who only had private study without any guidance from those who have studied it and shared ideas with peers or would you have a doctor do it?
Can you point out a doctor in the scriptures. Seems to me the modern dr's are more like(not all) the scribes Jesus repudiated.More like the scribes that accussed him of casting out devils by the prince of devils(mark 3:22).
I guess I could just as easily say, "Can you point out a "loepower" in the Scriptures?" And just because you can't then I could just dismiss you and call you a Pharisee. I could do that, but I try to make it a point to not use some of the most inane argumentation Youtube has to try to validate my points.
You got me there. There is no LOEPOWER in scripture. You don't have to have dr in front of your name to be able to properly interpret scriptures. When someone is mishandling scriptures the Dr in front of his name means nothing. just as the scribes in Jesus time used their Scholarship to dismiss his claims so do the so called dr's of today.What i'll do is just go over these vids and brake down the many mistakes the Good doctor makes in accordance to your own video on biblical interpretation.
"What i'll do is just go over these vids and brake down the many mistakes the Good doctor makes in accordance to your own video on biblical interpretation."
One of the first thoughts that popped into my head when Cairns mentioned attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the Devil was the revivalist ministries of many faith healers today. The problem is, the majority of these men (and women) have a very corrupted theology. If we look at the ministry of men such as John Piper, C.J. Mahaney, Mark Driscoll, etc, then I have no problem with their belief that the gifts are for today. However, for heretics, I do not give them the time of day.
I agree with you about many of the revivals today, but we know they are false not because of miracles but of their false doctrines. i Just believe it's more biblical to test things rather to summarily dismiss them, by basically saying it's impossible.
Additionally, while I do not believe that tongues is for today, as long as those who practice them do so as outlined in Scripture, I have no problem (which is not the case of modern pentecostalism, etc.).
I'm sorry, but is this grown-ass man discussing witchcraft with a straight face?? Dude, it's the 21st fucking century!! Shame on your ancient ass!
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I WANT EVERYONE ON EARTH to KNOW the TRUTH about the Unforgivable Sin, which is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit: It's PERFECTLY FALSE.
I'll PROVE IT.
In John 20:21, 23, our dearly beloved Jesus Christ our savior CLEARLY says this:
If you FORGIVE the sins of ANY, they are FORGIVEN; if you RETAIN the sins of ANY, they are RETAINED.
If all of you religious hypocrites completely deny, LOOK IT UP YOUR SINFUL SELVES.
I hope to the good lord with all my heart that this greatly helps.
God Bless
MagicMaker7 6 months ago
God lied to us. He said the unpardonable sin is blasphemy, and that all other sins can be forgiven. However, suicide is a sin and after committing it, one has no chance of redemption. But when I blaspheme the Lord, I still have Mormons and Evangelicals knocking on my door trying to "save" me.
Liar God, He's a Liar God I say!
TheReaverOfDarkness 7 months ago
@TheReaverOfDarkness who said suicide cant be forgiven?
MrUrosSrb 7 months ago
@MrUrosSrb everyone who says you have to repent BEFORE you die.
edit for clarity:
Christians.
TheReaverOfDarkness 6 months ago
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"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. "
Mariachi153 8 months ago
I remember when i was once troubled by this, but no longer :) I returned to this video incase any of my Fellow Brothers or Sisters in Christ have anything they wanna talk about if they are troubled with something :) God Bless you all
TheWhitePhantom787 8 months ago
yay, im going to hell
wohoo
Proclifo 9 months ago
@Proclifo 14 and on your way to hell, how sad. Live a little longer and you will change your mind/
tatorsal 9 months ago
@tatorsal Let me explain more. According to the Bible, I'm going to hell, but I don't really believe in that shit.
I'm an atheist and I'm proud of it. :)
Proclifo 9 months ago
@Proclifo U should reconsider ur opinion.Its never to late to be true.
MrUrosSrb 8 months ago
@MrUrosSrb Fuck you
Proclifo 8 months ago
@Proclifo 'I'm going to hell, but I don't really believe in that shit.' You will when you're there. Not believing it doesn't make it any less true.
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@MrOzanachronism You don't know this though. That is YOUR INTERPRETATION and OPINION on the matter.
xhemexx 3 months ago
One little thing??!! Blasphemy is the unpardonable sin.
brazilian777able 11 months ago
@EqualAndFree
Yes it is true, but the unpardonable sin is the final rejection of the Holy Spirit, if you reject the Holy Spirit you reject forgiveness itself.
gabox13 1 year ago
@gabox13 What do you mean by the final rejection of the holy spirit? Many people reject the holy spirit talking to them before death and then accept Jesus and are forgiven, if not I may burn in hell if you care.
tatorsal 9 months ago
@tatorsal The holy spirit is the only one that can inspire a person to accept jesus, if you reject the holy spirit, you reject the ability to accept jesus
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There is no possibility of blaspheming the Holy Ghost in this current dispensation and I know that because Paul tells me concerning these gifts that when that which is perfect has come, that which is in part will be done away with
Youre going to argue this as fact, but when is the last time you seen anyone raise a man from the dead
You cannot blaspheme the Holy Ghost unless you are witness to miracles signs and wonders, and its the Jew that requires the sign. 1Cor 1:22
AlYassou3Rabbi 1 year ago
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God offered himself as king to the Jews and they rejected and blasphemed against his will. God offered his Son to them and they rejected and blasphemed against him, the only route they had left to the throne of Glory was thru believing in the signs miracles and wonders of the Holy Ghost that were working thru Christ, If they rejected this and blasphemed against it, then they had rejected all 3 personages of the Godhead, and thus they could not be forgiven,
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AlYassou3Rabbi 1 year ago
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Christ was a man approved of God by miracles signs and wonders. Those miracles signs and wonders came by the power of the Holy Ghost.
In the OT the Jews rejected God when they chose Saul over him. In the NT the Jews rejected Christ and crucified him. Jesus was speaking to Jews there who were witnessing all the power of the Holy Ghost manifested in Christ thru miracles signs and wonders. If they rejected this, they were rejecting the power of the Holy Spirit.
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AlYassou3Rabbi 1 year ago
Jesus had the jews affraid after mentioning the unpardonable sin. In one case jesus said the lady that paid a little to the offering really paid more then the people giving of a less percentage. They pharisies asked jesus "under what authority do you say those things?" Jesus asnswerd with his own question "Who baptised me man or god?" they replied "I dont know". They were blind from seeing who jesus was.
monetsmoney 1 year ago
I think I agree with your interpretation in this specific case; but on what authority do you assert that blasphemy of the holy spirit is LIMITED to attributing its actions to the devil? For example, I deny the holy spirit entirely as an atheist. 'Miracles' of Jesus I would claim were non-miraculous if they even happened. Elsewhere in the bible, even disobeying your husband is considered blasphemy. I think, given Yahweh's character, the definition of blasphemy is likely to be inclusive.
hymnofashes 1 year ago
I think that was only for people under the law. Because under grace not accepting jesus untill death is not pardoned. (Thus making all manor of sins not 100% factual.)
monetsmoney 1 year ago
I have never declared that God's work is the work of Satan. That being said, I hope God will forgive me for my sins when I am dead.
NYerintransit 1 year ago
Great Info! GOD BLESS YOU!
serjeylovesjesus 1 year ago
the unpardonable sin is wearing that stupid toupee.
TADGELL 1 year ago
Great message! Ignore the nonsense. I would suggest making comments with "approval only." This way you can automatically block the foolish comments.
Thanks again.
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All the sins will be forgiven, for Jesus said after that something else : be up-to-date, Jesus!, be up-to-date. Didint Jesus change the old from the new covenant. So did He more recently whit the Divine Mercy devotion, all sins will be forgiven on the Feast of the Divine Mercy. ALL HE SAID. ALL. Be up-t--date : Catholic church.
TheSpiritualShow 1 year ago
Thank you Dr. Cairns. When I read that verse, I figured there was probably some sin i committed in my life that was unforgivable!
fxtrader92 1 year ago
child molestation by religious people ,carry on jesus forgives you
RICHARDTOMLEY10WHARF 1 year ago
Thanks for this video Dr Cairns...good explanation. My question is can this sin be committed in the form of an unwanted thought? I have OCD and get sick intrusive thoughts in my head at times that my my mind obsesses over. I am taking medicine for it but ever since I read Matthew 12 I get sick thoughts pop up mostly pertaining to these scriptures. I keep hearing every pastor I talk to mostly say its not a single act but a continued habitual way of leading your life till death
RWarsenal08 1 year ago
what if someone has uncontrolled thoughts against the holy spirit
that cant count, lets say for example god and jesus say speaking and thoughts against plam trees was unforgiveble well guess what
every person that heres that would one day end up having a thought
against it because the harder you try not to think of somthing the more likey
you will think of it
bonedrag8621 1 year ago
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This is what the scriptures teach us...Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, either in this world or in the world to come. Matthew 12:32
HedeenJeff 1 year ago
The Holy Books say:
Psalms of David = God is One and has NO partners.
The Torah = God is One and Has NO partners.
Bible = God is Three beings in One Entity.
Holy Qur'an = There is NO god but God and He has no partners in His Dominion has He is The Almighty and none are equal unto HIM....that is God.
i read all the books above and only the Qur'an is the pure words of Allah/God/Jehova/Ywe whatever blessed you know our lord by...please read em all u have 1 life to find the truth...
SilentEmpires 2 years ago
there you go the BIBLE is the only different book and its right , the rest are ploys of the devil
THE HOLY BIBLE IS THE ONLY TRUE BOOK , THAT TELLS YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT SALVATION
BestLoyalistMusic10 2 years ago
has a muslim...i must believe the Torah, Bible, Psalms of David and The Holy Qur'an are revelations from God/Allaah. or i'm not a true beliver!
but all the Holy books before the Qur'an (Torah, Bible) have been corupted by the hands of man...therefore Allah/God revealed The Qur'an to clean up His Religion...So IF U ARE SINCERE ABOUT WORSHIPING GOD AS HE WANTS US TO...THEN THERES IS NO OTHER WAY BUT THE QUR'AN AND ISLAM...
from a sincere believer
SilentEmpires 2 years ago
"Allah and His Religion are far above whatever the un-believers say or descripe" [The Holy Qur'an]
i think that above statment is for people who make blasmephemus statments.
thats all i can say..
SilentEmpires 2 years ago
@SilentEmpires Hi, I'm interested in that quote you put there... is it from the Qur'an? If so, which verse?
jungleVIP 1 year ago
@jungleVIP
its in many places in the Holy Qur'an...i remember it from reading English translation of the Qur'an..as arabic is not my 1st language and i can undesrtand english better...but if u can get hold of the English meaning or translation of the Qur'an...and if u want me to find it for you let me know...peace
SilentEmpires 1 year ago
I would go as far as to say, blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is to reject His unction in your heart to repent from your sins and accept the sanctification of Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. To reject Jesus Christs sanctifying work on the cross is the only way anyone will not be granted acceptance into heaven, thereby making it the unpardonable sin, rejecting Christ. The Holy Spirit is the only one who can actually convert the hearts of humans and return them back to God.
WoundedNoMore 2 years ago
@WoundedNoMore Sounds nice, but Christ had not even died yet for sins when he made this statement to the Pharisees. Watch the vid again for context.
armrpeercing 2 years ago
jesus peace be upon him...did not die for mine or your sins he actually didnt even die...He was taken upto heaven by his and our Lord and will return to defeat the anti-christ and after that God will take Jesus's life as every man must taste death so that we can appreciate what it means to live forever...
SilentEmpires 2 years ago
"They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help". Qur'an - (005.072 )
"But whoso repenteth after his wrongdoing and amendeth, lo! Allah will relent toward him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful".
SilentEmpires 2 years ago
Fallacy of 'the ' trinity '
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" Why callest thou me good?
there is none good but one, that is, God."
Mark 10:18
you should study your own religion brother.
If you actually read the Holy Qur'an you would not be talking about "some moon god". if Allah is not God. then what word does the Arabic bible use for God. Allaah. Jesus didnt speake English. he properly used a word closer to Allaah because he was from that area.
east2west360 2 years ago
@east2west360 You simply, like most Mulsims, do not understand the doctrine of the trinity. But then neither did your "prophet". The Quran is a distorted account. As far as Mark 10:18, Jesus was speaking of the FATHER. He himself was the SON, pointing the rich man to the one he didn't know. They are not the same person, but one in BEING. Your works will not save you from sin, trust in the word of God who was made flesh and died for your sins. He was raised from the dead for YOU.
armrpeercing 2 years ago
@ARMPEERCING...i understand the trinity perfectly my friend and thats why I REJECT IT AND FEEL SAD FOR YOUR MUISGUIDED SOUL!!! Trinity is (son, father and holy spirit) and all being one but different? this must have creeped to Christianity through PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE...cos they believed in God of war, god of peace, god of love, the son of the god of peace etc etc..because no prophet from God/Allah ever preached this from Adam to Muhammed and Jesus (peace be up them all)
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goooogrrr 2 years ago
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.
(al-Ikhlâs - The Purity)..chapter of Qur'an
east2west360 2 years ago
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xem727 2 years ago 2
if that is how u think .what about slavery, holacaust, the crusades etc etc...is that why u deleted your own comment as u offended your self.
I testify like every Muslim...that 'There is No god But Allaah and Muhammed is His Messenger along with every other prophet including Jesus who was the word of Allaah not his son.
"Sufficient is Allaah has a witness between you and me, He will judge between us on Judgement Day without doubt"..Read Qur'an b4 u judge it without knowledge like a fool..
east2west360 2 years ago
She said: O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me? He said: Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, Be! and it is! (Holy Quran 3:47
east2west360 2 years ago
ALLAH is not GOD! What god did muhammed's parents worship?or his grand parents? ALLAH was the moon god! one of many gods that were worshipped during that pantheistic culture(zoroastrianism) I"m not trying to be hateful or mean but you really should study your religion from' outside the box 'as they say. you are right though GOD is all powerful and merciful and loving, most of all that's why he sent his JESUS son to die on the cross for your sins.(not judas or anyone else!) GOD BLESS YOU.
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chuynching 1 year ago
@xem727 And may I add that Allah is not the God that Christians worship because God has a Son, that is, Jesus Christ, while Allah doesn't have a son. I pray that people will see this difference and put their faith on Jesus Christ who is the only way to God.
chuynching 1 year ago
@chuynching Amen!
xem727 1 year ago
@xem727 keep stepping outside of boxes i like where you're going.
InKa4484 1 year ago
@InKa4484 Right on bro!...GOD BLESS.
xem727 1 year ago
wait so i still dont get it,,, whats the unpardonable sin? i just need a straight forward answer dont go into detail please
lilgirl145 2 years ago
Wow.. So could blaspheming the Holy Spirit include those people that accuse the Bible of being 'evil' due to the graphic nature of the Old Testament- these people KNOW that God isn't evil and go on describe He and His Word as such to justify their self absorbed lives; is one who goes that far finished??
sicstyl 2 years ago
hi im dublin ireland and i wanted to say that was an excellent explanation of the blasphemy of the holy ghost. it was great to hear it in context the lord bless you Laura
laura686979 2 years ago
The age to come is NOT eternity.
Jesus was born in the age of law. Therefore, when He spoke of this age, He was speaking of the age of law,(before his substitutionary Atonement) prior to the age to come being the Church age in which we now live. It has nothing to do with eternity.
Paul said .."In Adam all die, in Christ ALL shall be made alive".I dont think that the Pharassees will be resurrected just to be told that the are going to Hell.
duboisd31 2 years ago
The love of money is a root of all evil. Come to my channel and hear who the wrath of God is revealed against and decide for yourself which people are blaspheming the Holy Spirit. The Pharisees loved money and don't you think modern day Pharisees aren't raking in the cash and deceiving nations.
headachehealer 2 years ago
Nicodemus did say 'we' know that You are a teacher come from God to Christ. It is a huge leap to say that he was speaking for all Pharisees. Plus, Jesus said whoever spoke a word against the Holy Spirit would not be forgiven. 'Whoever' includes those who speak with knowledge and those who don't.
SaudaraLink 2 years ago
So is it true that any nonbeliever who has never seen or believed in ghosts, can commit any sin, including blasphemy against the ghost itself, and still be forgiven in the unlikely event the ghost appears to him later in life?
RDJim 2 years ago
'Ghost' is an old fashioned way of saying 'Spirit' in English. 'Holy Ghost' is called 'Holy Spirit' in other translations. Jesus didn't talking about seeing the spirit of a dead person. Rather, this passage is talking about the Holy Spirit of God.
SaudaraLink 2 years ago
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I am an ex-Calvinist - now an "Old School Baptist"., I have met personally with Ian Paisley, Alan Cairs' mentor. The thing that makes Calvinism dangerous is that it runs under different banners. Paisley, of Belfast norther Ireland, a member of the board at Bob Jones University, calls himself a Fundamentalist, because it facilitates his popularity as a five point Calvinist. True doctrine of predestination is the "no-means" beliefs of the Old School Baptists. Calvinism is counterfeit Christianity!
hugiaino 2 years ago
There is no unpardonable sin under mid acts dispensationalism
nimitz92 2 years ago
DR. Cairns may be the best teacher to date, but you can't blame people for wanting to know what the unpardonable sin is.
tomdelayabortions 2 years ago
In the early 80's, whilst in the South African army there was a particular soldier who hated anything to do with God. On a particular Thursday afternoon he screamed at amother soldier who is a christian " f*** your Holy Spirit". The next day, he was killed when testing a 3 ton armoured truck, it tipped over and he fell out and vehicle fell on him and he popped like a balloon. Soldiers in the camp who had witnessed his outburst were in deep shock and many turned to the Lord.
BrotherOfTheSon 2 years ago
Wow that's deep ! What about the apostle Paul who probaly said what the christians were following was demonic or something. When he was Saul he certainly didn't believe what christians were doing was from God. He compeled them to blasheme. If someone says what christians are proclaiming is demonic , are they doomed ?
tomdelayabortions 2 years ago
People accused Jesus of casting out demons by demonic power. He turned to them and said that they were wrong because if that was so, the satan will be operating against himself and his kingdom will fall. As Saul, Paul was just a very religious person who prided himself as acting in Gods interest but having no actual relationship with God but as Paul, he understood that Christianity was nor religion but person relationship with God and he had always been sinful.
BrotherOfTheSon 2 years ago
Paul may have been a blasphemer, but he did not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. How do we know? Because he found forgiveness. Jesus specifically said that blaspheming the Son could be forgiven.
SaudaraLink 2 years ago
I think the key here is knowledge versus belief. As Dr. Cairns teaches, the Pharisees KNEW that God was working through Jesus, yet attributed His work to demons (They irreverently put their selfish goals above God's work). Conversely, Saul was sincerely mistaken in his accusations against Christians -- he was not purposefully making false accusations.
kj27002 2 years ago
This man needs to study with the bereans, this is false, and by the high views, people will fall for it, and most won't be saved.
ChannelHopeStar 2 years ago
So many people (Christians) toss around the word "saved" or "salvation". I imagine that more often than not, they're making some allusion to hell and some sort of rescue from it.
I wonder, and you should too, if that is what Jesus meant by salvation.
newgenj 2 years ago
yes it is, :)
postsaftermerjkn 2 years ago
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newgenj 2 years ago
Here's the example given in scripture:
Matthew 12:22-24
Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
tomchedge1 2 years ago
let's keep it simple the scribescalled the spirit working in jesus the spirit of beelzebub, they attributed the work of the holy spirit to the work of the devil. this is blashpeming theholy spirit. real simple but some want to make it hard to comprehend read it in it's context. it's clear.but don't worry you can't commit this sin any longer. according to the scholars so you don't have to watch what you call the devil. man that didn't make sense as i typed it.
loepower 3 years ago
I thought blashphey of the Holy Spirit was completly refusing to repent, the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, and thus dening Jesus unto death. Because if its not there would have to be 2 unforgivable sins. Please correct me if I am wrong. This is just what I had understood it to be.
maggiblue 3 years ago
This blasphemy against the HS is when they reject the HS in the Kingdom program, it is NOT meaning that we in this dispensation (Eph 3: 1-3) say a word against the Holy Spirit, Paul blasphemed, and was saved. In Acts 7, when the Israelites rejected Stephen's message, that was a clear case of blashemy against the HS. Once again, ignorance in the making. Listen--The only unpardonable sin today is , when you reject God altogether--like atheist, so they will die in their sins.
SaithTheLordMinistry 3 years ago 6
@SaithTheLordMinistry praise God theres a person lyk you who realy knows what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is...
dexterious21 4 months ago
Hmm. More Kingdom theology. A person, in this age of grace, could, even as a christian, knowingly blaspheme the Holy Ghost, and still be saved.
Another example between the kingdom and law programs is where YOu shouldn't call anybody a fool, but in Galatians 3:1, Paul says, ''Oh foolish Galatians. ''
InfiniteSky49 3 years ago
Hi Lane, i really enjoy watching this video, it's a clear explanation. God bless you. DC
IglesiaPeniel 3 years ago
The wife and husband who lied to Peter, and thus the Holy Spirit, committed the unpardonable.
There were numerous Pharisees who . Paul was there when Stephen was stoned to death.
You can ONLY do it AFTER you receive your baptism in the Holy Spirit, not before.
littleredbirdy 3 years ago
Excellent teaching. Thank you.
sincitypreacher 3 years ago 2
"If they don't know they are doing it then they are not doing it."
I will respectfully disagree with you on that point. I believe that many have, and are, and will continue to call the good works of God evil (for various reasons) and then go on self deluded until they come to before judgment seat. Then they will see they have done that and be grieved.
A lot of them will believe they're saved, because people tell them they are when they're not, but in the end they'll see they were deceived.
teddyhcraig 3 years ago
What was explained is that it is a sin that you are completely aware of, you must know that you are blaspheming the holy spirit to commit the unpardonable sin. That is what I thought he was explaining.
cspine333 3 years ago
The saddest part of the whole thing is that some of the most pious, the most religious, people commit this sin to this very day.
They do it and don't even know it; because, unless the Holy Spirit of Christ shows them that they did it they can't see it. But they will be aware of it on the day of judgment.
Reminds me of Isaiah 5:18-24. I believe, according to that passage, we can call that unpardonable sin a work of the workers of iniquity. I also believe Hebrews 6 was referring to that sin too.
teddyhcraig 3 years ago
If they don't know they are doing it then they are not doing it. The pharisees knew what they were doing, that is what made it so horrible.
cspine333 3 years ago 2
Great video!! Great to see this questioned answered, one I have often pondered? This is why I subscribed (and Paul Washer's)!!
PacificNW326 3 years ago
Anias and his wife did it in Acts 5 I believe. They had received the baptism of the Holy Spirit and they perverted it.
I do not agree with him on this.
Paul was a Pharisee....he was obviously forgiven.
littleredbirdy 3 years ago 2
Dr. Cairns did mention "specific Pharisees". The one's who committed that sin. Obviously Saul had no contact with Jesus before the Damascus road encounter.
ShinuMirai 3 years ago
Great teaching, there´s still just one thing that i dont understand though.. What if one of these Pharosees, who KNEW that God was with Christ but still contributed his works to the devil would later realize that Christ really is the only way to salvation, and he would then choose to turn away from his sins en to follow Christ, would he still be forgiven, even though he commited that ' unpardonable sin' ?
Martee91 3 years ago
I've always thought of the unpardonable sin as being a sign of reprobation. If you commit it, your not going to come to the truth and follow Christ.
Glorthac 3 years ago 2
Thanks Lane another good post
holyfool33 3 years ago
Thanks Lane.
thebigsheepman 3 years ago
I think it's a stretch to say because Nicodemus said we Know, that the same pharisees who attributed the works ocf Christ to the devil must have cetainly known it was the work of God. Jesus doesn't limit this sin to his time on earth. But i know that there are many seminarians that have gotten rid of the sin of blashpemy of the holy ghost. They need to do this so they can keep their doctrine of cessation, so they can attribute any miracle they hear about to the work of the devil without fear.
loepower 3 years ago
/me thinks that Cairns could say just about anything but until he says that men speak in tongues today, "loepower" is going to be critical of whatever he says. :)
I think it's kind of funny, too, how you speak against "seminarians" which would mean those who go to a place of study to learn the Bible and give forth what they believe is the best interpretation of it, and in the first part of your comment, you... give forth what you believe is the best interpretation.
LaneCh 3 years ago
I see you would LIKE to attribute my criticism of Cairns to his interpretation of tongues but that is not the case. you have a video on here about subjectively interpretitng the scriptures and these last 3 videos you have posted with Cairn all have incidents of him subjectively ineterpreting the scripture. I've found in my reasearch that usually if you are a cessationist you don't believe in the blasphemy of holy Ghost or believe in a version of it that doesn't resemble the one in the Gospel's
loepower 3 years ago
Can you give the primary source material and specific citations for your research?
"you have a video on here about subjectively interpretitng the scriptures and these last 3 videos you have posted with Cairn all have incidents of him subjectively ineterpreting the scripture."
I see. So are you claiming that your interpretations are the objective ones?
LaneCh 3 years ago
Also, you say, "I see you would LIKE to attribute my criticism of Cairns to his interpretation of tongues but that is not the case."
But in a previous video, you state: "Gifts of healing- gift of healing- wow this is the type of silly hair splitting That confirms to me that intellectuals were never meant to high jack the faith. ... This is blasphemous. ...Lane please don't post this guy again you are embarassing your cause."
Apparently you had a 180 between that last video and this one, huh?
LaneCh 3 years ago
My point on the tongues was his interpretation. I disagree with him on tongues but there are cessationist who do a much better job presenting the case of cessation. He superimposes the context of Christ discussion with nicodemus on The context where he's talking about blasp of holy spirit. That breaks the rules of biblical interpretation, he sets another context for the pre text of an un related situation as that said situations context.
loepower 3 years ago
That's like people who dismiss male headship in marriage going to a scripture where it says there is no male or female in Christ. They use the man woman connection and think they are talking about samething when one is talking about marriage, the other is talking about salvation. These are 2 entirely different situations.
loepower 3 years ago
"My point on the tongues was his interpretation."
My point on the tongues is your interpretation.
From there I guess we need to say: So?
LaneCh 3 years ago
Your ... leave out some things i say also. But go right ahead and keep posting this guy. His subjective interpretations are obvious to those not in your camp. If a coach on the opposite team points out where my weakness is before we take the court i'll at least try to step back and see if that weakness is there or not. Trying to give you a heads up.
loepower 3 years ago
Here's the comment in it's entirety. Please specifically explain to me how omitting these things for space changes the blunt of what you said. If you're silent on it, I guess we have your answer.:
LaneCh 3 years ago
"Gifts of healing- gift of healing- wow this is the type of silly hair splitting That confirms to me that intellectuals were never meant to high jack the faith. Apostles had the gift to heal so did evangelist. So he says God does not do miracles today. Wow. This is blasphemous . I've got a video of a guy who was embalmed that was raised from the dead. This is akin to unbelief. Lane please don't post this guy again you are embarassing your cause." - loepower
LaneCh 3 years ago
yes i was saying that saying God doesn't do mircles any more was blasphemous thanks for including the entire quote. Not the diferentiating of gift and gifts.
loepower 3 years ago
I'm sorry. Perhaps you didn't read my comment, didn't see it, or something else. I'll post it here again so you can clarify what you mean or leave it as the empty, unsubstantiated assertion that it is now based on it's own merit. Here's what I asked you to do now that I've posted your entire quote:
"Here's the comment in it's entirety. Please specifically explain to me how omitting these things for space changes the blunt of what you said."
Quit wasting my time, "loepower" and answer it.
LaneCh 3 years ago
oh yeah i believe i sent you that video. Did you check it out?
loepower 3 years ago
"If a coach on the opposite team points out where my weakness is before we take the court i'll at least try to step back and see if that weakness is there or not. Trying to give you a heads up."
Yeah, thanks, because I don't think a bit about these videos before I post them. Thanks for your objective guidance.
(Sheesh. Please don't be so deluded. THAT'S embarrassing.)
LaneCh 3 years ago
Yeah. You got me i'm really embarassed and deluded. Guess you missed the point. Dude in this video and others subjectively interpreted scripture.. Plain and simple. There was a cessationist on your last video in the comments that also says that his presentation was misguided. Maybe you'll listen to an assistant coach on your own team. Peace brother .
loepower 3 years ago
Quit wasting my time, "loepower". Present something substantial or quit with this empty rhetoric. If you don't, I can help you with that very easily with a block button. I have much better things than reply to people who won't 1) listen and 2) back up what they say.
LaneCh 3 years ago
i read up on certain subjects and i have thoroughly studied the cessationist arguement. i study for understanding not so i can quote people verbatim.but that's what you need but we have a video(this one of a cessationist saying that blaspheming the holy spirit may bea thing of the past. i knew that he probably beleved this before you posted this video. my interpretations are based on scripure alone and cairns mishandled it. i'll do the video,hope you look at it objectively.
loepower 3 years ago
My problem with seminaries is that this is were these doctrines come from. Learned men who can't come to grips with something they find illogical are able to teach themselves and others how to Lawyer away a dificulty. I ,before seeing this video suspected he probably didn't believe you can commit the sin of blaspheming the holy spirit today, he probably believes no one can cast out demons today also. Certain doctrines follow one another. He only suggest this maybe the case, with unpardonable sin
loepower 3 years ago
"My problem with seminaries is that this is were these doctrines come from. Learned men who can't come to grips with something they find illogical are able to teach themselves and others how to Lawyer away a dificulty."
So, in your research you've never encountered people who've been to seminaries (maybe even written systematic theologies) and believe the gifts are still in operation today?
LaneCh 3 years ago
Ok Lane, of course all semanaries are not bad and all people that have gone their don't hold to the same things. My point is usually people who hold to all these things learned them not from a private study from scripture but from someone with a DR. in front of his name. It doesn't come from a plain reading of text. It takes scriptual acrbatics like ciarns does in this video to come to these conclusions.
loepower 3 years ago
"My point is usually people who hold to all these things learned them not from a private study from scripture but from someone with a DR."
Would you have someone do brain surgery on you who only had private study without any guidance from those who have studied it and shared ideas with peers or would you have a doctor do it?
LaneCh 3 years ago
Can you point out a doctor in the scriptures. Seems to me the modern dr's are more like(not all) the scribes Jesus repudiated.More like the scribes that accussed him of casting out devils by the prince of devils(mark 3:22).
loepower 3 years ago
I guess I could just as easily say, "Can you point out a "loepower" in the Scriptures?" And just because you can't then I could just dismiss you and call you a Pharisee. I could do that, but I try to make it a point to not use some of the most inane argumentation Youtube has to try to validate my points.
LaneCh 3 years ago
You got me there. There is no LOEPOWER in scripture. You don't have to have dr in front of your name to be able to properly interpret scriptures. When someone is mishandling scriptures the Dr in front of his name means nothing. just as the scribes in Jesus time used their Scholarship to dismiss his claims so do the so called dr's of today.What i'll do is just go over these vids and brake down the many mistakes the Good doctor makes in accordance to your own video on biblical interpretation.
loepower 3 years ago
"What i'll do is just go over these vids and brake down the many mistakes the Good doctor makes in accordance to your own video on biblical interpretation."
Please do, and please post them here when you do.
LaneCh 3 years ago
One of the first thoughts that popped into my head when Cairns mentioned attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the Devil was the revivalist ministries of many faith healers today. The problem is, the majority of these men (and women) have a very corrupted theology. If we look at the ministry of men such as John Piper, C.J. Mahaney, Mark Driscoll, etc, then I have no problem with their belief that the gifts are for today. However, for heretics, I do not give them the time of day.
Anakrino 3 years ago
I agree with you about many of the revivals today, but we know they are false not because of miracles but of their false doctrines. i Just believe it's more biblical to test things rather to summarily dismiss them, by basically saying it's impossible.
loepower 3 years ago
Additionally, while I do not believe that tongues is for today, as long as those who practice them do so as outlined in Scripture, I have no problem (which is not the case of modern pentecostalism, etc.).
Anakrino 3 years ago 2