As for health benifits, Vegans show no longer life expectancy, while they suffer less deseases in most cases, they also AGE quicker says a recent study. Because they are missing soemthing that you can only get from meat, Carnosine.
'companies are still selling 50-mg carnosine capsules and claiming that this low dose is effective. Recent study showing that the body degrades 248 mg of carnosine within 5.5 hours, consumers who take these 50-mg carnosine capsules are obtaining virtually no benefit.
A few things. First off Vegans have to be careful with their diet to make sure they get all their vitmines and the proper protines, this would have been impossible several thousand years ago, and humans couold not have survived without meat for the protines they get from them.
second, you are inaccurately comparing our meat tearing teeth to those of GRIPPING fangs. HUmans are not chase and catch preditors, we are TRAPERS.
ok, since it seems i am the only sane person here, let me say this: God created us to be plant eaters, but since the downfall of humanity, we ate meat, and plant, eating just plant will not make anything better in the world, but, do not be afraid to eat meat, for even though god made us to eat plant, we have sinned, and it is only logical that we are to eat meat too. All of these are not my opinion, but cold hard facts.
@epicguy103 The bible is an ancient text modified thousands of times over translation to what we have today. Let's live in today and focus on the issues at hand attempting to resolve them with reason and critical thinking, not superstition. Excusing unnecesary consumerist behaviors on "sin" is just unnaceptable.
@epicguy103 That's fucking halarious. "SINDIDIT" You don't know why people eat meat and you don't have a genuine argument, so throw your desert fairty tales and christfaggotry into it and yell "SIN DID IT".
Besides, That argument is so bad that not even the bible supports it. If eating meat was the result of sin, then why didn't god make the consumption of meats a complete sin among the thousands of other retarded things he supposedly made sins in the old testimate, hmm?
@epicguy103 Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything. Let's Play!
@truth2748 You're right about her confusing people not familiar with the matter. But that doesn't make her claim less true. How PETA can be viewed as a part of the AR movement when they eutanize stray animals is kinda beyond me. The fact that they are erroneoously considered the spokespersons of the AR movement results in that confusion. In my opinion, being part of the AR movement is something that is earned through what one does, not by claiming to be part of it or claiming to speak for it.
@mhe0815 PETA has done more for animals than any other organization in history. Just their undercover vids has opened peoples eyes to the unbelievable cruelty that everyone denied happens in slaughterhouses, factory farms, etc.
I agree with the above vid re: our teeth and how people still not get if baffles me. We are not meant to eat animal flesh.
What I don't get is the 'sin' part? I'm not into dragging the Bible into veganisn at all.
@chainamarie03 May that as it be - they still have done a lot of things which go directly against their proclaimed beliefs and said nothing about it, which is why I call bullshit on PETA. They may have done a lot of good, but haven't done everything possible because after all, they are a corporation, which inherently is far behind of what could be achieved if you don't put the financial bottom line on top of your priority list. Peta as it is sucks compared to what it could have been.
@mhe0815 You might be right in alot of things u say re: PETA. I am not aware of them euthanizing stray animals (tho I've seen other posters say something similar) and don't know why they would do that since it goes against alot of their beliefs.
I do agree that once money comes into play alot of ethics flys out the window and I'm sure PETA could do better but I'm not aware of these as FACTS. Do u have any sites I could go to find out if some of what u r saying is true.
@chainamarie03 It all comes down to a fine line between business and ethics.PETA doesn't stand against euthanasia and there is of course a never-ending debate whether or not "humane" killing is justified. Since PETA is a corporation, it has to consider the cost of prodiving for the animals in their shelters - what do you think they do when they don't have the funds? In many cases they euthanize the animals, because they consider the alternatives less humane. Google "peta euthanasia". It's there.
Lol I like that the panda is in there, lots of meat obsessed idiots love to say no herbivore at all, has eyes in the front of its head or canines but pandas are the perfect example. They evolved from an omnivorous diet to a herbivorous one & we need to do the same to stop the horrible cruelty to animals, the tremendous amount of polution to our planet, & the health problems it gives people. Humans are such selfish pieces of shit & they just keep passing on their ways to kids, it's disgusting.
@MrEllisRedding So if we move all of our animals to free range pastures and let them do as they please in a large open environment, can I then kill them and eat them as sustenance? Cause all what i am really hearing from all these people is that its the animal ABUSE that needs to stop. And I concur, it needs to stop. But I really like eating meat. So, find me a loophole.
@TheWolfOfShadows Look up The Faces of "Free-Range" Farming on youtube. Lots of free range places aren't what they'd like you to believe. Even when they are and an animal is truely allowed to live a normal free life, you're still entirely Needlessly taking its life when you could simply eat something else. It's so disgusting for someone to be that selfish to where they value such a simple short lived pleasure like taste over the actual life of an innocent being.
@MrEllisRedding I'm not needlessly taking their life. I'm eating them so I may continue to live. And I will have you know that currently I eat more vegetables and fruits and the like than meat. But that doesn't change the fact that I STILL LIKE TO EAT DEAD ANIMAL CARCASSES. Simple as that. It's my opinion. We are omnivores for a reason, my friend.
@TheWolfOfShadows -_- It's needless when you don't need to do it. Duh. You don't have to, you choose to and it causes horrible things to happen so I hope you're fucking happy. And what's this reason people are omnivores for then? No matter the reason it doesn't matter cause capability doesn't equal necessity. Just like I can eat meat but don't, I can stab someone to death but don't.
@MrEllisRedding You mean just like its needless to eat food in the first place, then? You don't NEED to eat food. You can do it if you want to continue to live, but then again that's not necessarily a NEED as well. Y'know, living. The world will and does go on without you. And that retort for the omnivore argument is a double edged blade. It works both ways. You don't NEED to eat only plants.
@TheWolfOfShadows That's a pretty darn retarded comment which I'm too tired to bother correcting but it'd be a waste of my time anyways so you keep on being a fucked up gluttonous prick and I'll keep on being pretty cruelty free.
@TheWolfOfShadows you don't need to eat meat to live a healthy life, so with all the arguments against eating meat (environment, animal cruelty, health, etc), doesn't it make sense to stop if the only reason against it is taste and convenience? I don't know...unless you can think of other reasons?
@squarekolt GAH! Not this again... A one month old comment should stay a one month old comment and nothing else. Sigh, It all comes down to opinion either way you take it, if you enjoy to eat meat, eat it, if you enjoy to eat plants, eat them. If you like both, eat both. You can see that I'm avoiding an argument for a reason.
one of the most supported theories of how we became humans states that when chimps started modifying their diets with meat, more protein was going to the brain which was already more developed than other species, thus allowing other modifications and blah.. evolution puff... humans. (explained beautifully in The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris). what im trying to say is that we are what we are thanks to meat. of course teeth dont mean one thing or the other but other stuff like stomach acidity do.
one of the most supported theories of how we became humans states that when chimps started modifying their diets with meat, more protein was going to the brain which was already more developed than other species, thus allowing other modifications and blah.. evolution puff... humans. (explained beautifully in The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris). what im trying to say is that we are what we are thanks to meat. of course teeth dont mean one thing or the other but other stuff like stomach acidity do.
@petruncho88 So exactly what are we? We are a murderous species that lack so much in the way of morals that it's sad. And this is what we 'evolved' to because we began eating flesh.
Thanks, but no thanks, I'll stay vegan and pass it on to my kids who'll pass it on,,,etc etc
and maybe one day all living beings can live their lives free from 'accepted' abuse.
@chainamarie03 Why use the word murder? Do you call a lion a murderer? Im saying exactly what you just accepted. We are the way we are, thanks in great part to our diet. I dont want to change back. I kinda like it this way.
And please keep on veganing my friend! And while passing your diet through MILLIONS of generation youll probably evolve into an accepted abuse free species. Hope we still walk on two feet dough.
My objection to your argument is this....All cults and brainwashing organizations have insisted on low animal protein diets. When a human body does not consume animal protein and fat, the brain becomes more open to suggestion. The second thing is most societies in 3rd world nations that have promoted such ideas eventually passed laws to protect animals while allowing cannibalism to go unpunished. P.S. Only one race has canine teeth according to dentists, so let us decide what our race needs
@DeductiveReason Please, oh please inform us of where u got these silly 'facts' from.
Plus I don't know of one country that has not outlawed cannibalism.......so just where does this go unpunished? And don't talk about about some small tribe living in a jungle somewhere, because EVERY country has outlawed cannibalism.
@truth2748 Interesting that you are accusing me of being on a "high horse" when you are the one constantly bringing up how much more experienced, and better vegan advocate you are than me :) it really is. Sad that you can't be respectful and civil instead of insulting me. Also, please don't pretend you know me just because of the videos I post here, specially ones I posted years ago. Thanks.
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@truth2748 and btw... you have known my stance on Peta from a long time, I really don't understand why you keep coming to my videos if you're just going to post pro-peta stuff. I am not going to change my mind about it..there are tons of other activists and people doing work worth supporting, people who advocate for animals without compromising a clear animal rights and veganism position like Peta does. I am hardly "hurting" any movement... what movement is Peta creating? A half-assed one if any
wow there are a thousand and one things that are wrong with this video. mostly the facts. i didn't know vegans made propaganda as well. early man (cave man) ate meat there are 100 and 1 museums that would tell you that man ate meat. the only reason it is an issue now is that there are not hunter/gathers and farm living and cooked foods have made our systems soft. if there were no farms and everyone had to hunt there would be no vegetarians
Um...whoever the heck ever thought that humans were carnivores....are kind of retarded to say the least. The fact that we have molars, Canines, and incisors is a good inducation that we're Omnivores. Anyone who believes differently, im sorry. You. Are. An. Idiot.
*sigh* Humans are naturally omnivores. Not herbivores and not carnivores. That means that you can eat meat and you can eat plants. Your body is made to digest protein and digests meat better then it does to plants. You need fiber (indigestible plant material) and you need protein from either plants or animals. If you are a veg, the amount of protein you should eat doubles so you can get all the amino acids you need.
The BEST way to improve your diet, is to exercise.
@KyureLirnglot Where are you getting your information, with all due respect you are incorrect. MEAT IS NOT DIGESTED PROPERLY BY THE BODY!!!!!!! LOL Your statement is a complete lie and miss information. First off the body in not anatomically made to consume, meat, but we can eat meat to sustain life, but it creates an imbalance in our system. MEAT HAS NO FIBER!!! Which makes for a long transition timethrough the digestive system, thus it sits in our colon purtrifying hence so many colon cancer
@KyureLirnglot Human's can eat meat to sustain life ONLY. Meat consumumption does not heal the body in any shape or form. The best way to improve your DIET IS DIET not excersice! Humans have a low amount of hydrochloric acid in the body which meat eaters need to digest meat properly and we have a colon that is 12 times our body lenght which takes a longer time to process and digest in our bodies while carnivores intestinal tract is only 3 times their body length.
@KyureLirnglot Also while meat is being digested, most protein breaks down into its constituent amino acids, which are reconverted and used by the body for growth and issue replacement. Of the 22 amino acids like I said ALL but 8 can by synthesized or processed by the body, these 8 essential amino acids EXISTS IN abundance in non flesh FOODS!!! Dairy( WHICH I would only consume raw goats milk, Grains, beans and nuts area all concentrated sources of PROTEIN. And if you soak and sprout grains..
@KyureLirnglot If you soak and sprout grains your release the digestive enzymes that are in what is called a cyogenic stage "frozen" state and reawaken the grain for more better assimilation and digestion of grains. 1 cup of soaked and sprouted rice contains 2000% more essential nutrients and 100 calories more than a cup of non sprouted rice. Cheese , peanuts and lentils, for instance, contain more protein per ounce than hamburger, pork or porterhouse steak.
@KyureLirnglot THis was a study done by a guy named Dr. Fred Stare at Harvard and DrMervyn Hardins of Loma lind aUniversity. They concluded in their study of meat eaters and veggies each group exceeded 2 its requirement for every essential amino acid and surpassed thee amount by large margins for most of them. The problem is too much protein intake actually reduces the body's energy capacity, and there have been many many studies done and studies I have done to proves this.
@KyureLirnglot University studies show that Vegetarians overwhelming performed 2-3 times longer than meat eaters before exhaustion and were fully recovered from fatigue in 1/5 the time needed by meat eaters. I can go on and on and on!!!! SO BEFORE YOU PUT UP FALSE INFORMATION you should do your due diligence first in understand the anatomy of the body, the science of food, food combining, and NUTRITION!!! And understanding the most important thing is the DIGESTIVE SYSTEM on how it works!!!
@chamokc: University studies also show that vega have bones that are 20% more brittle than omnivores and break them more often. If you ignore this then kindly ignore your University study.
Ah, so the fact that vegans and vegetarians don't always win in the Olympics is?
the canine teeth argument is valid only when professed by normals who propose laws preventing vegan parents to feed children on vegan diet. it is not valid when trying to promote veganism on normals. the simple "i want steak" statement is enough to refute any "veganism for all" proposal.
But finally to all the vegans out there be careful. Just cause your eating veggies doesn`t mean that your doing your body all the good it needs. Make sure to get lots of calcium, protien, and amino acids, iron! Watch your diet and exercise cause just cause your eating fruits doesn`t mean you don`t have to exercise ( This has been a Public service announcement XD)
Also comparing us to a rumanating animal is so far off I can`t even contain myself! We can`t get all the nutrients required from grass! We don`t have the bacteria or the stomaches to contain them ( poor little guys!). We are, no doubt, omnivores. That means we need both. This being said, it`s definetly true that we are able to like a healthier life on only veggies then meat.
No no no! The thing that determines are adaptation for eating meat is not the canines but the back teeth which show deep grooves as opposed to flat ( for grinding vegetation!). Canines are actually for peircing fruit ( look up baboons). Also our anatomy resembles more of an omnivore ( bears, pigs and our closet relative chimps).
Looking at the teeth alone is a poor way to determine whether an animal is "meant" to eat meat or not. For example, hawks eat meat and have no teeth whatsoever. Carnivorous plants eat meat and have no teeth/claws to speak of. Many whales have baleen instead of teeth to filter krill.
The most you can do is say that excessive meat eating is unhealthy. It is, however, perfectly natural to eat meat, and can be part of a balanced diet.
@NerdFury Hawks peck apart & swallow chunks whole. Insects are hardy meat to 'carnivorous' plants. Insects just land in their 'mouths' No fight nessescary. Whales, well, they tend to get just what comes to them. Killer whales? Great big sharp teeth, man. Have a look at plant eating Gorilla teeth. Now that's interesting. Cheers.
@wearylady77 Your example of the hawk is in line with what I said. Gorillas do indeed have large canines, which probably has something to do with fighting for mating rights, but make no mistake, they are omnivores and do eat meat/insects as well to get important nutrients. I mean, look at the teeth of a fruit bat. A simplistic analysis would suggest that they eat meat, when they do not. Humans did not need sharp teeth because we used tools to hunt our prey.
@KyureLirnglot Once within the stomach, meat requires digestive juices high in dydrochloric acid. The stomachs of humans and herbivores produce acid less than 1/20th the strength of that found in carnivores. Another crucial difference is found in the intestinal tract where food is further digested and NUTRIENTS are passed into the blood.A PIECE OF MEAT IS JUST PART OF A CORPSE, and its putrefaction creates poisonous waste within the body, therefore you need to eliminate meat QUICKLY!!
@KyureLirnglot For this purpose, carnivores possess alimentary canals only 3 times the length of their bodies. Since man, like other non flesh eating animals, has an alimentary canle 12 times its body length, rapidly decaying flesh is retained for a much longer time, producing a number of undesirable toxic effects!! One body organ adversely affected by these toxicans is the KIDNEY. This organ, which extracts waste from the blood, is strained by the overload of poisons introduced by meat eating
@KyureLirnglot Even moderate meat eaters demand 3 times MORE WORK FROM THEIR KIDNEYS than do vegetarians. The Kidneys of a young person may be able to cope with this stress, but as one grows older the risk of kidney disease and failure greatly increases, not to mention heart disease, colon cancer, etc etc, The body is made in a natural order that is produces its own protein! A protein is made up of 22 amino acid the body makes 14 the human need to get the 8 essential amino acids to complete it
I would like to point out that the human digestive tract is about 30 feet long - about 5 times our body length. This falls right in with carnivorous and omnivorous animals.. Far removed from herbivores. The normal stomach pH is around 2.0, as in other dominantly meat eating species.
I'm a tool? Look in the mirror, you self-righteous jackass. :)
I'm fine with veganism. If you don't want to eat meat, that's your own choice. However, if you have to justify your decision with lies, false logic, and complete idiocy, then go and demonize those that don't choose to follow your stupidity and carry a high-and-mighty attitude about it, then please find a gun and take it to your head. You'll be doing the world a favor. :)
"It's more economically stable to have a vegan diet."
Lie. Organic, vegan diets are far more expensive than non-vegan diets. Next time you're at the market, look at the price tags.
"more environmentally friendly to have a vegan diet."
Lie. To produce an equal weight of food in grain as meat, you need quite a bit more space. This means more farmland, more trees cut down, and higher food prices.
You're the one who has quit trying to refute my arguements.
How can you sit there, after I have made my arguement, then ignore them, tell me to look in the mirror, then have the stupidity to claim I'M the one who ran out of intelligent things to say?!
The fact of the matter is any problem a plant based diet has a meat based diet will have even more.
You use plant farming to feed meat, over and over, then you need farm space FOR the meat, the animal waste ruins soil quality and gets into the water table then rivers then see leading to eutrophication.
They produce shit loads of methane, countless journeys in lorries to get grain to the meat= more inefficiency.
@HermieHedgehog OH NO NOT VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS WHATEVER SHALL WE DO.
meat eaters have increased health risks that we vegans do not, and also, you only need supplements for ONE thing, B12.
nothing more. AND ALSO now food is fortified with B12 you don't even need supplements any more. So that's your little piece of shit thrown out the window.
Digestion of meat poses so many more ilnesses due to it's release of harmful toxins from it's stagnation in the HUGE intestine of a human.
@HermieHedgehog Every doctor I have had said a sensible balanced vegan diet will ultimately be better than a diet with meat.
The fact is meat is no longer nessicary.
MEAT industry pollutes the soil more, adds more nitrates and nitrites to both the soil and the water table, produces far more methane. Requires far more transport= CO2.
@HermieHedgehog ANY problem with a plant based diet a meat based diet will have even more, because you have to continually feed your livestock PLANT UPON PLANT UPON PLANT.
it wastes much more land than a vegan diet would.
Those studies are complete bull and have absolutely NO scientific value. They cherrypick data to support a pre-determined outcome. I could make any conclusion I want about anything using the same methods- it doesn't make it accurate, though.
Get your head out of the ground and look at some REAL facts, not this extremist vegan bullsh*t. I eat meat, and have absolutely no health problems. Oh, my, I guess I don't exist!
yeh, they cherry picked data, thats bullshit You eat meat and have no health problems! wow, debate over we have conclusive proof! One case of anecdotal evidence. How do you know you don't have health problems? have you had a comprehensive physical recently? I know a guy that drinks liquor every day and he has no health problems. ergo liquor is is good for you.
One beer a day has been shown to lower the risk of heart diseases, but excess is harmful to the liver.
Also, there are certain genes that people have that cause hardening of the arteries as you age. I knew someone who's grandmother had this, and she was vegetarian most of her life.
Eating meat is not harmful. Anyone that says it's harmful is spreading propaganda from PETA, who are an extremist, terrorism-supporting group (they help fund the ALF).
Screw peta , who gives a crap about them. Meat is harmful and this was known long before peta, so get them off your brain. Nice way to stereotype vegans, and your anonymous buddies anecdotal granny are convincing evidence.
I do my own computer repairs and upgrades, thank you. :) I'm also a Mechanical Engineering student at Oregon State University. I know what I'm talking about, versus some malnourished, misinformed vegan.
Please, for your own sake, don't reply until you actually have something intellegent to say. Unless you feel like giving me more to laugh at. XD
Wow. you do your own computer repairs and upgrades. you must have an I.Q. of at least 80 then. I been building my own comps since the 286. Whoopee! Mechanical engineering? WTF does that teach you about nutrition? Apparently NOTHING! AL Oerter was an Olympic discus champion and vegan, was he malnourished? or Carl Lewis? Please use your limited intelligence to try to find out what your typing about. and please research isn't anecdotal tales about your inbred family.
@HermieHedgehog oh right, because you're idiotic enough to think you can only get protein from meat LOL.
You're seriously a complete and utter tool.
everything you get from meat you can get from vegetables WITHOUT the unhealthiness and the cruelty, the damage to the environment, the economic strain etc etc.
You eat meat purely cause you like the taste. It's not nessicary let alone better for you.
Eating meat is unnesicary in a western society and those who continue to do so knowingly are selfish
1- Meet me halfway with Sears, B! Titles? Publisher?
2- I've already suggested possible reasons for the reduction in food available at the time. Perhaps with less food about, smaller people survived better. Am I four inches taller than the national average because of what I eat? I doubt it: probably more to do with genetics.
3- So people switched to sedentry agriculture from hunting without making other lifestyle changes? Neat trick.
The problem with all this vegan militant propaganda is the fact that somehow it's OK to kill plants,insects,fish but not animals.If you respect live you respect every lifeform and you don't do any eco-racism.We are all aware we need to kill to live so why this hypocrite attitude?Science already proved that plants as animals feel some kind of discomfort or pain.Also,when you kill an animal the meat is dead as when you eat it opposed to plants whom you eat alive.
Heart diesease probably never has much chance to develop if you run around all day until you are 20 and then die, Will. Life expectancy did go up a bit with agriculture, and so did world population. There was also a bit of a global climate shift going on. All of this must have made all food scarce. You can't support many people by hunting, because the larger, slower-breeding animals become extinct etc.
If we stay on the path we're on, one day humans will have to decide whether to feed the remaining food to ourselves or to cows. Their simply won't be enough coming in to supply the billions of cows and billions of humans. Everyone will HAVE to become vegan, it's inevitable.
I didn't think about that, but that makes sense. Although when that times comes i think it is going to be too late to save the planet or anyone for that matter
of course its bad for the environment. natives in southern america have to give up their forests, so ranchers can grow more soy and corn for cows. it takes 8kg of food to get 1kg of meat.
and you wouldnt prefer meat if you wouldnt fill it with pepper and fry it in vegetable oil.
Your theory is already old, the land in Brazil is now used to grow biofuel because in Brazil the whole country switched over to biofuel thanks to certain ecologists.Evab crimananal organisations are in the market because of the profit they make,so they continue to burn forests.Thank you green guys...
i think you're in the wrong vid comments. We are talking about vegetarianism what you are talking about is biofuel. I dont necessarily agree with biofuel It does take up a lot of land and the food they grow goes into transportation and not the hungry mouths of starving kids. Going on a vegetarian diet will save more land tho, because you dont have to cut forests to grow the cows and you dont have to cut it down to feed the them either. Btw, iamgandhiful what side are u on u r confusing me? o_O
Well you people seem to have ideas don't you.Biofuel is one of them,saving the earth from global warming (if such thing exist).Now there are using food to run cars,a really wonderfull idea if you think half the planet is starving.Now the big idea would be to become "vegetarian" or "vegan" depending your degree of extremism.You really think that mono-culture is good for the ecosystem?A field is a disaster for life,nothing lives in it.A pasture on the other side is interesting for life and the eco
omg, didn't i just say biofuels were bad, and you can't just assume vegetarians like myself support "environmental friendly" fuels like biofuel.Plus, if you're going to prove something why don't you stick to what you are saying. One, Pastures are monocultures too. Two Fields are full of life, plants do live too. In addition, those "interesting" pastures of urs is full of disease and slaughter. Maybe you should go visit what u eat and then decide if u still want to continue eating innocent lives
Why don't you try to live from that food and then talk.Vegan health last if you take a very good look at what you eat and if you take food supplements to cover your B12 shortage.That really proves that veganism is a ethical choice not a natural or the best choice for your body.
Ppl probably wouldn't have to be vegans if dumb asses like you would just limit ur meat intake. Humans get their nutrition from all sorts of foods mostly from veggies (u dont see meat giving you vitamin C). If the world would eat less meat, we wouldnt hav the need 4 huge slaughter farms and maybe all farm animals can be free range. Until that day comes, i have to make up for all of the ppl tat consume an enormous amount of meat by not eating any meat myself. Im trying to do my part what about u?
No need to insult the others to look smart.You don't see plants give your B12 do you?That is the idea of being omnivor,a little of everything even as opposed to what you think there are people in the world who live on a 99% meat diet so everything is possible for humans.That's is why humans survived and conquered the world.I don't make a difference between killing an animal or a plant,both are bad but that is what you need to live.I respect every lifeform something most vegans don't.
Im sorry for calling names but ppl like you who like to rationalize eating tons of meat is good pisses me off. You cant live only on a 99% meat diet. ur going to get gout and die an early death due to heart disease and lack of nutrients, however u can survive on a lacto-ovo veggie diet w/o the supplements. And i dont believe, although i may be wrong, that you "respect" lifeforms because i dnt think u buy free ranged meat products. u r torturing animals by not doing so, taking away their freedom.
Inuits are doing his for a long time,living from fish and meat.Most nomade tribes have almost an only meat diet like the Mongolians, African tribes and the now disapeared Indian plain culture.Site exists on this subject as on Veganism.What I mean by respecting ALL lifeforms is the fact that I know I must kill to live and the suffering of one lifeform over another is quite hypocritical.
do ya think the reason we have shorter canines is because our tool using, and general cognitive abilities and that a set of teeth designed for a diverse diet as opposed to solely meat or vegetation is an advantage?
You should urgently read an article on B12 such on WIKIPEDIA.B12 is only found in meat and meat products,also in fish and I presume maybe in insects,almost none in plants.Graseaters have it in there intestins true a bacteria and predators get there B12 true eating those intestins.Humans get there B12 true food only,no bacteria.Eating a moderate quantity of meat will not kill you.Cancer,heart diseases are mostly genes related that's why a doctors ask you if you have those diseases in your family.
wikipedia is not a reliable source. Look at the stats- they can be found in the research by John Robbins, who had sefish every reason to promote eating animal products because of what he stood to gain financially, but he chose to study and research to know the truth. How many vegetarians are dropping over due to something missing in their diets? If there is any concern, simply take a B-complex or B12 vitamin, but no one I know who's vegan is dying-- rather is living much longer w/ best health
In general, wikipedia is not a reliable source. However celt's statement is largely correct.
I will tell you that when we find someone under 70 with B12 deficiency in the hospital, the first question I ask is "Are you a vegetarian? How long ago?" If not, then we start looking at intrinsic factor deficiency, or malabsorption problems. I would say at least half of the b12 deficient patients we identified were vegetarians for 6-12 years, unaware that they MUST supplement B12.
*high fives* i totally agree with you (cute lion picture btw) I just became a vegetarian 2 weeks ago, and i feel so much better being a vegetarian than an omnivore. My theory is that our main diet way back in the day was suppose to be plants and once in awhile our ancestors would be able to catch the occasional animal. The reason we eat so much meat today is because of what you were saying, meat represented wealth in cultures and thus is was advertised so. Meat shouldnt be the center of a dinner
way back in the day our ancestor australopithecus afarensis (lucy) was a scavenger that ate anything they could find. africa turned dry and we had to rely on meat. we were hunter-gatherers, mostly relying on meat, until we started farming thousands of years ago.
I am a vegetarian. I definetly agree with you. I want to be vegan. But i'm young. And I am going to take my time in it. I almost quit being a veg because I am being teased. People say, "we were made to eat meat." Or "Why dont you eat meat, your to young and it is stupid." I really hate it! But the comment I hate most is "Humans teeth are like a dog. Made to eat meat and always will eat meat!" I personnally think that is outrageous and stupid. If you dissagree, please dont leave stupid comments!
Human teeth are nothing like the razor sharp pointed teeth of cats. They are much more like the dull, flat teeth of vegetarian animals like cows, horses, rabbits. The shape of teeth alone should be enough to convince anyone with half a brain that humans shouldn't be eating animals. Human carnivores are addicted to meat and simply try to justify their addiction.
If we really where not made to eat meat,how can we digest it?Your half brain should chech out why we always took our B12 from meat,fish or insects cause we cannot get our B12 from plants whatever extreme vegans say,science proves you are wrong.And why exactly is it OK to kill and eat plants alive and not animals?plants are living things to who feel some pain.Why is animal pain more interesting or less acceptable then vegetal pain?Interesting question to people who claim to stop pain.
Personally, I think that if we were natural carnivores we would have carnivore features. We would have natural weapons as in claws and large canines to take down prey and not man made weapons if we were carnivores. It makes sense. Wouldn't we have what all other predators have if we were meant to hunt?
we have a unique predator feature that not many predators have: marathon. we can run and run and run and stalk an animal until they get too exhausted and it becomes an easy prey. sweating makes marathons easier, carnivores need to cool down.
Being omnivores, we have a system that falls in the middle of the two. If you don't want to eat meat just leave it at that.. Making the tooth argument only hurts your particular cause does it not??
Human teeth are like a cow's... They are closer to pigs which are omnivores. We also dont have four chambered stomachs like cows. Nor do we have to regurgitate our food and chew it (cud) like a cow. Also, our closest relatives, the chimpanzee (sharing 98% DNA with humans) are omnivores
i'm not gonna waste time commenting on any of the ridiculous arguments from meat eaters on this thread. just wanna say, you did a great job on the vid, porolita22!
Not true. Agriculture kills. Hundreds of animals die per acre of vegetables, soy, grains, etc.
Local diet causes far less harm. If I practice permaculture to grow my own food, and get meat from hunting, I fall below you in environmental impact and animal suffering used to feed myself.
Be vegan, vegetarian, etc... whatever, but shut up with the propaganda, fear-mongering, and dogmatic moral-high-ground nonsense.
What animal we resemble is totally irrelevant... we are our own species, and I can find examples that could be used to argue the opposite.
A sheep's intestinal system, for example, is far longer than ours, we have no rumen, we have a high acid stomach (pH 3), with more enzymes specifically for meat and other animal parts than for plants
Basic high school bio debunks all the claims made about digestive anatomy. They aren't even twisted/misrepresented...they are simply wrong.
So sick of hearing about how evil it is to eat meat, if you want to eat only plants then ok, but i'm not going to jump on your balls because of the number of plants you've killed and make up some moral high ground because i think my diet is moral than yours. I find it arrogant and quite fucking annoying. Hooray for you but shut up allready. People are going to eat meat if they want. We are free to make that choice you fucking carrot nazis
And try being fuckin' honest, man. Colon cancer and all meat-related illnesses result from too much meat when there is no moderation. No one is saying that humans are carnivores, which is the crux of this video's argument.
Hell, even too many nuts for a pregnant woman increases the risk of athsma in their children. Hell, nuts themselves could cause (sometimes) fatal allergic reactions.
So at least attempt to be honest in your videos. As a vegetarian, it will be hard, but you can do it.
Humans don't chew food because we're herbivores, we chew food so we don't fucking choke. It's not rocket science, really. Not even physiology. It's common sense.
Yes, the esophogus can expand some, but not enough to swallow whole foods of any kind. Not even vegetable.
Another fallacy; humans use heat and fire to COOK food, which softens and tenderizes it. It's especially evident in a water-based cooking phenomenon you may of heard of called "boiling".
Thank you for making this video. I wouldn't have put a panda, though. I would've used closer relatives like gorillas or bonobos who are herbivores and also have canine teeth.
I can give a simple reason why veganisme is not natural,vitamine B12.Plant eating animals get there B12 true bacteria on the ground,meateaters get it because they eat the intestents of there prey.Humans can only get B12 by eating something.Where do you find B12,yes in meat and by-products almost non in plants.The B12 was discovered in the 1920 and what is the danger of a lack of B12.Anemnia and other physical problems,that's why our ancestors have eaten meat from the start,so humans survived.
Wrong. We've been somewhat herbivorous for most of our existence. We got B12 from BUGS. Insects were (and for some cultures still are) a very abundant food source rich in protein as well. Our evolutionary ancestors confirm this. Most apes are NOT CARNIVOROUS, and when they are labeled carnivorous, it's because they eat insects (ants mostly).
So is eating an insect eating meat? They move around, they are alive, they are definatly not plants, .. I think that qualifies them as meat...Prove me wrong if you can, but you cant lol
I like the panda example... But excuse me.. cows have four stomachs dont they? where is that example? We dont have four stomachs? And p.s. fuck veganism. My cat told me that eating meat was ok, and this dolphin I talked to at the zoo said that fish is good to eat, so I will go with that.
Sorry kid but humans are neither herbivores or carnivores, we are OMNIVORES. You can go vegan and nothing stops you... just in your case, what stops you is your mind, because you probably are too dumb to make smarter decisions about what you eat.
I suppose you know if im a little boy or not? HHhmm.. your a dork. I would welcome a debate with you but you wont have it, thats fine. You just throw a couple insults my way and dont want to write anything else,, why is that?
rudican, hypocrisy doesn't suit you. Is that not what you've been doing this whole time? Trying to get a rise out of someone, and expecting to get away with "I have my reasons, teehee!"? Yes, I thought so. Yes, ants are meat (I don't know WHY you thought I'd think otherwise. A child's train of thought I suppose.). Go ahead and eat some bugs if you'd like. I'd prefer supplements, being the progressive guy that I am. Now go away little boy.
Hypocrisy? .. There you go making up shit again. So you like popping pills huh, boy, thats natural, lol. And I guess the good thing is you dont even need teeth for that, maybe you should get yours plucked out since you dont need them anymore, maybe you can donate them to a toothless orphan or something, if you have any that is.. ha ha
I never said that we arent omnivores, I implied that I like eating the flesh of dead animals, lol. But since you say we humans are omnivores, whats with the name "OneAnnoyedVegan"?
vegan propaganda!i wanted to be nice but your all retarded making a big deal over food. cant you find something important to whinge about? your not changing anyones minds about meat except for teenage girls and emo faggots.the poor animals! shutup
As for health benifits, Vegans show no longer life expectancy, while they suffer less deseases in most cases, they also AGE quicker says a recent study. Because they are missing soemthing that you can only get from meat, Carnosine.
'companies are still selling 50-mg carnosine capsules and claiming that this low dose is effective. Recent study showing that the body degrades 248 mg of carnosine within 5.5 hours, consumers who take these 50-mg carnosine capsules are obtaining virtually no benefit.
pcgamernum1 1 month ago
A few things. First off Vegans have to be careful with their diet to make sure they get all their vitmines and the proper protines, this would have been impossible several thousand years ago, and humans couold not have survived without meat for the protines they get from them.
second, you are inaccurately comparing our meat tearing teeth to those of GRIPPING fangs. HUmans are not chase and catch preditors, we are TRAPERS.
pcgamernum1 1 month ago
ok, since it seems i am the only sane person here, let me say this: God created us to be plant eaters, but since the downfall of humanity, we ate meat, and plant, eating just plant will not make anything better in the world, but, do not be afraid to eat meat, for even though god made us to eat plant, we have sinned, and it is only logical that we are to eat meat too. All of these are not my opinion, but cold hard facts.
epicguy103 6 months ago
@epicguy103 The bible is an ancient text modified thousands of times over translation to what we have today. Let's live in today and focus on the issues at hand attempting to resolve them with reason and critical thinking, not superstition. Excusing unnecesary consumerist behaviors on "sin" is just unnaceptable.
porolita22 6 months ago
@porolita22 Jaja, por ser una segunda idioma, respondes bien en ingles. Gracias por los videos.
thevakoffski 3 months ago
@porolita22 @ 1:43 "And even though it is true, that humans are capable of eating and digesting meat..."
...It's also true that humans are incapable of digesting plant fiber.
OK, I dropped the teeth argument like you said. Did I do good?
JackFook 2 months ago
@porolita22 hahahah if you the only sane person anywhere we have a big problem
zaf88 2 months ago
@epicguy103 That's fucking halarious. "SINDIDIT" You don't know why people eat meat and you don't have a genuine argument, so throw your desert fairty tales and christfaggotry into it and yell "SIN DID IT".
Besides, That argument is so bad that not even the bible supports it. If eating meat was the result of sin, then why didn't god make the consumption of meats a complete sin among the thousands of other retarded things he supposedly made sins in the old testimate, hmm?
This is just sad.
IAMELIPHAS 3 months ago
@epicguy103 Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything. Let's Play!
scooterdod 2 months ago
@truth2748 You're right about her confusing people not familiar with the matter. But that doesn't make her claim less true. How PETA can be viewed as a part of the AR movement when they eutanize stray animals is kinda beyond me. The fact that they are erroneoously considered the spokespersons of the AR movement results in that confusion. In my opinion, being part of the AR movement is something that is earned through what one does, not by claiming to be part of it or claiming to speak for it.
mhe0815 8 months ago
@mhe0815 PETA has done more for animals than any other organization in history. Just their undercover vids has opened peoples eyes to the unbelievable cruelty that everyone denied happens in slaughterhouses, factory farms, etc.
I agree with the above vid re: our teeth and how people still not get if baffles me. We are not meant to eat animal flesh.
What I don't get is the 'sin' part? I'm not into dragging the Bible into veganisn at all.
We have no right to murder other lifeforms.
chainamarie03 1 month ago
@chainamarie03 May that as it be - they still have done a lot of things which go directly against their proclaimed beliefs and said nothing about it, which is why I call bullshit on PETA. They may have done a lot of good, but haven't done everything possible because after all, they are a corporation, which inherently is far behind of what could be achieved if you don't put the financial bottom line on top of your priority list. Peta as it is sucks compared to what it could have been.
mhe0815 1 month ago
@mhe0815 You might be right in alot of things u say re: PETA. I am not aware of them euthanizing stray animals (tho I've seen other posters say something similar) and don't know why they would do that since it goes against alot of their beliefs.
I do agree that once money comes into play alot of ethics flys out the window and I'm sure PETA could do better but I'm not aware of these as FACTS. Do u have any sites I could go to find out if some of what u r saying is true.
Thanks
chainamarie03 1 month ago
@chainamarie03 It all comes down to a fine line between business and ethics.PETA doesn't stand against euthanasia and there is of course a never-ending debate whether or not "humane" killing is justified. Since PETA is a corporation, it has to consider the cost of prodiving for the animals in their shelters - what do you think they do when they don't have the funds? In many cases they euthanize the animals, because they consider the alternatives less humane. Google "peta euthanasia". It's there.
mhe0815 1 month ago
Look at eagles. They have beaks, no teeth at all. And they tear little rabbits apart. Proud Omnivore here!
Kitsuneru 8 months ago
Great video!
Also....You have great teeth.haha
Skeletonwitharaygun 8 months ago
Lol I like that the panda is in there, lots of meat obsessed idiots love to say no herbivore at all, has eyes in the front of its head or canines but pandas are the perfect example. They evolved from an omnivorous diet to a herbivorous one & we need to do the same to stop the horrible cruelty to animals, the tremendous amount of polution to our planet, & the health problems it gives people. Humans are such selfish pieces of shit & they just keep passing on their ways to kids, it's disgusting.
MrEllisRedding 9 months ago
@MrEllisRedding So if we move all of our animals to free range pastures and let them do as they please in a large open environment, can I then kill them and eat them as sustenance? Cause all what i am really hearing from all these people is that its the animal ABUSE that needs to stop. And I concur, it needs to stop. But I really like eating meat. So, find me a loophole.
TheWolfOfShadows 9 months ago
@TheWolfOfShadows Look up The Faces of "Free-Range" Farming on youtube. Lots of free range places aren't what they'd like you to believe. Even when they are and an animal is truely allowed to live a normal free life, you're still entirely Needlessly taking its life when you could simply eat something else. It's so disgusting for someone to be that selfish to where they value such a simple short lived pleasure like taste over the actual life of an innocent being.
MrEllisRedding 9 months ago
@MrEllisRedding I'm not needlessly taking their life. I'm eating them so I may continue to live. And I will have you know that currently I eat more vegetables and fruits and the like than meat. But that doesn't change the fact that I STILL LIKE TO EAT DEAD ANIMAL CARCASSES. Simple as that. It's my opinion. We are omnivores for a reason, my friend.
TheWolfOfShadows 9 months ago
@TheWolfOfShadows -_- It's needless when you don't need to do it. Duh. You don't have to, you choose to and it causes horrible things to happen so I hope you're fucking happy. And what's this reason people are omnivores for then? No matter the reason it doesn't matter cause capability doesn't equal necessity. Just like I can eat meat but don't, I can stab someone to death but don't.
MrEllisRedding 9 months ago
@MrEllisRedding You mean just like its needless to eat food in the first place, then? You don't NEED to eat food. You can do it if you want to continue to live, but then again that's not necessarily a NEED as well. Y'know, living. The world will and does go on without you. And that retort for the omnivore argument is a double edged blade. It works both ways. You don't NEED to eat only plants.
TheWolfOfShadows 9 months ago
@TheWolfOfShadows That's a pretty darn retarded comment which I'm too tired to bother correcting but it'd be a waste of my time anyways so you keep on being a fucked up gluttonous prick and I'll keep on being pretty cruelty free.
MrEllisRedding 9 months ago
@TheWolfOfShadows you don't need to eat meat to live a healthy life, so with all the arguments against eating meat (environment, animal cruelty, health, etc), doesn't it make sense to stop if the only reason against it is taste and convenience? I don't know...unless you can think of other reasons?
squarekolt 7 months ago
@squarekolt GAH! Not this again... A one month old comment should stay a one month old comment and nothing else. Sigh, It all comes down to opinion either way you take it, if you enjoy to eat meat, eat it, if you enjoy to eat plants, eat them. If you like both, eat both. You can see that I'm avoiding an argument for a reason.
TheWolfOfShadows 7 months ago
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one of the most supported theories of how we became humans states that when chimps started modifying their diets with meat, more protein was going to the brain which was already more developed than other species, thus allowing other modifications and blah.. evolution puff... humans. (explained beautifully in The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris). what im trying to say is that we are what we are thanks to meat. of course teeth dont mean one thing or the other but other stuff like stomach acidity do.
petruncho88 10 months ago
one of the most supported theories of how we became humans states that when chimps started modifying their diets with meat, more protein was going to the brain which was already more developed than other species, thus allowing other modifications and blah.. evolution puff... humans. (explained beautifully in The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris). what im trying to say is that we are what we are thanks to meat. of course teeth dont mean one thing or the other but other stuff like stomach acidity do.
petruncho88 10 months ago
so we evolved from a herbivore but are now an omnivores species.
petruncho88 10 months ago
@petruncho88 So exactly what are we? We are a murderous species that lack so much in the way of morals that it's sad. And this is what we 'evolved' to because we began eating flesh.
Thanks, but no thanks, I'll stay vegan and pass it on to my kids who'll pass it on,,,etc etc
and maybe one day all living beings can live their lives free from 'accepted' abuse.
chainamarie03 1 month ago
@chainamarie03 Why use the word murder? Do you call a lion a murderer? Im saying exactly what you just accepted. We are the way we are, thanks in great part to our diet. I dont want to change back. I kinda like it this way.
And please keep on veganing my friend! And while passing your diet through MILLIONS of generation youll probably evolve into an accepted abuse free species. Hope we still walk on two feet dough.
petruncho88 1 month ago
My objection to your argument is this....All cults and brainwashing organizations have insisted on low animal protein diets. When a human body does not consume animal protein and fat, the brain becomes more open to suggestion. The second thing is most societies in 3rd world nations that have promoted such ideas eventually passed laws to protect animals while allowing cannibalism to go unpunished. P.S. Only one race has canine teeth according to dentists, so let us decide what our race needs
DeductiveReason 11 months ago
@DeductiveReason Please, oh please inform us of where u got these silly 'facts' from.
Plus I don't know of one country that has not outlawed cannibalism.......so just where does this go unpunished? And don't talk about about some small tribe living in a jungle somewhere, because EVERY country has outlawed cannibalism.
chainamarie03 1 month ago
@truth2748 Interesting that you are accusing me of being on a "high horse" when you are the one constantly bringing up how much more experienced, and better vegan advocate you are than me :) it really is. Sad that you can't be respectful and civil instead of insulting me. Also, please don't pretend you know me just because of the videos I post here, specially ones I posted years ago. Thanks.
porolita22 1 year ago
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@truth2748 and btw... you have known my stance on Peta from a long time, I really don't understand why you keep coming to my videos if you're just going to post pro-peta stuff. I am not going to change my mind about it..there are tons of other activists and people doing work worth supporting, people who advocate for animals without compromising a clear animal rights and veganism position like Peta does. I am hardly "hurting" any movement... what movement is Peta creating? A half-assed one if any
porolita22 1 year ago
man are omnivores
megamanxjac 1 year ago
wait i didnt watch the whole video. sorry ill i saw twas the first part bout how ppl shouldnt eat meat. disregard my comment
megamanxjac 1 year ago
@truth2748 BAM! you really let porolita22 have it!. Awesome answer.
sandracucup 1 year ago
wow there are a thousand and one things that are wrong with this video. mostly the facts. i didn't know vegans made propaganda as well. early man (cave man) ate meat there are 100 and 1 museums that would tell you that man ate meat. the only reason it is an issue now is that there are not hunter/gathers and farm living and cooked foods have made our systems soft. if there were no farms and everyone had to hunt there would be no vegetarians
megamanxjac 1 year ago
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sandracucup 1 year ago
Um...whoever the heck ever thought that humans were carnivores....are kind of retarded to say the least. The fact that we have molars, Canines, and incisors is a good inducation that we're Omnivores. Anyone who believes differently, im sorry. You. Are. An. Idiot.
KatsuseChan 1 year ago
*sigh* Humans are naturally omnivores. Not herbivores and not carnivores. That means that you can eat meat and you can eat plants. Your body is made to digest protein and digests meat better then it does to plants. You need fiber (indigestible plant material) and you need protein from either plants or animals. If you are a veg, the amount of protein you should eat doubles so you can get all the amino acids you need.
The BEST way to improve your diet, is to exercise.
KyureLirnglot 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot Where are you getting your information, with all due respect you are incorrect. MEAT IS NOT DIGESTED PROPERLY BY THE BODY!!!!!!! LOL Your statement is a complete lie and miss information. First off the body in not anatomically made to consume, meat, but we can eat meat to sustain life, but it creates an imbalance in our system. MEAT HAS NO FIBER!!! Which makes for a long transition timethrough the digestive system, thus it sits in our colon purtrifying hence so many colon cancer
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot Human's can eat meat to sustain life ONLY. Meat consumumption does not heal the body in any shape or form. The best way to improve your DIET IS DIET not excersice! Humans have a low amount of hydrochloric acid in the body which meat eaters need to digest meat properly and we have a colon that is 12 times our body lenght which takes a longer time to process and digest in our bodies while carnivores intestinal tract is only 3 times their body length.
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot Also while meat is being digested, most protein breaks down into its constituent amino acids, which are reconverted and used by the body for growth and issue replacement. Of the 22 amino acids like I said ALL but 8 can by synthesized or processed by the body, these 8 essential amino acids EXISTS IN abundance in non flesh FOODS!!! Dairy( WHICH I would only consume raw goats milk, Grains, beans and nuts area all concentrated sources of PROTEIN. And if you soak and sprout grains..
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot If you soak and sprout grains your release the digestive enzymes that are in what is called a cyogenic stage "frozen" state and reawaken the grain for more better assimilation and digestion of grains. 1 cup of soaked and sprouted rice contains 2000% more essential nutrients and 100 calories more than a cup of non sprouted rice. Cheese , peanuts and lentils, for instance, contain more protein per ounce than hamburger, pork or porterhouse steak.
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot THis was a study done by a guy named Dr. Fred Stare at Harvard and DrMervyn Hardins of Loma lind aUniversity. They concluded in their study of meat eaters and veggies each group exceeded 2 its requirement for every essential amino acid and surpassed thee amount by large margins for most of them. The problem is too much protein intake actually reduces the body's energy capacity, and there have been many many studies done and studies I have done to proves this.
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot University studies show that Vegetarians overwhelming performed 2-3 times longer than meat eaters before exhaustion and were fully recovered from fatigue in 1/5 the time needed by meat eaters. I can go on and on and on!!!! SO BEFORE YOU PUT UP FALSE INFORMATION you should do your due diligence first in understand the anatomy of the body, the science of food, food combining, and NUTRITION!!! And understanding the most important thing is the DIGESTIVE SYSTEM on how it works!!!
chamokc 1 year ago
@chamokc: University studies also show that vega have bones that are 20% more brittle than omnivores and break them more often. If you ignore this then kindly ignore your University study.
Ah, so the fact that vegans and vegetarians don't always win in the Olympics is?
KyureLirnglot 1 year ago
Excellent!
wearylady77 1 year ago
the canine teeth argument is valid only when professed by normals who propose laws preventing vegan parents to feed children on vegan diet. it is not valid when trying to promote veganism on normals. the simple "i want steak" statement is enough to refute any "veganism for all" proposal.
dig6dog 1 year ago
But finally to all the vegans out there be careful. Just cause your eating veggies doesn`t mean that your doing your body all the good it needs. Make sure to get lots of calcium, protien, and amino acids, iron! Watch your diet and exercise cause just cause your eating fruits doesn`t mean you don`t have to exercise ( This has been a Public service announcement XD)
Phibeta696 1 year ago
Also comparing us to a rumanating animal is so far off I can`t even contain myself! We can`t get all the nutrients required from grass! We don`t have the bacteria or the stomaches to contain them ( poor little guys!). We are, no doubt, omnivores. That means we need both. This being said, it`s definetly true that we are able to like a healthier life on only veggies then meat.
Phibeta696 1 year ago
No no no! The thing that determines are adaptation for eating meat is not the canines but the back teeth which show deep grooves as opposed to flat ( for grinding vegetation!). Canines are actually for peircing fruit ( look up baboons). Also our anatomy resembles more of an omnivore ( bears, pigs and our closet relative chimps).
Phibeta696 1 year ago
Looking at the teeth alone is a poor way to determine whether an animal is "meant" to eat meat or not. For example, hawks eat meat and have no teeth whatsoever. Carnivorous plants eat meat and have no teeth/claws to speak of. Many whales have baleen instead of teeth to filter krill.
The most you can do is say that excessive meat eating is unhealthy. It is, however, perfectly natural to eat meat, and can be part of a balanced diet.
NerdFury 1 year ago
@NerdFury Hawks peck apart & swallow chunks whole. Insects are hardy meat to 'carnivorous' plants. Insects just land in their 'mouths' No fight nessescary. Whales, well, they tend to get just what comes to them. Killer whales? Great big sharp teeth, man. Have a look at plant eating Gorilla teeth. Now that's interesting. Cheers.
wearylady77 1 year ago
@wearylady77 Your example of the hawk is in line with what I said. Gorillas do indeed have large canines, which probably has something to do with fighting for mating rights, but make no mistake, they are omnivores and do eat meat/insects as well to get important nutrients. I mean, look at the teeth of a fruit bat. A simplistic analysis would suggest that they eat meat, when they do not. Humans did not need sharp teeth because we used tools to hunt our prey.
NerdFury 1 year ago
@wearylady77: Actually, carnivorous plants attract incests to them and the insects do indeed fight to get out of the traps if they are able.
KyureLirnglot 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot Once within the stomach, meat requires digestive juices high in dydrochloric acid. The stomachs of humans and herbivores produce acid less than 1/20th the strength of that found in carnivores. Another crucial difference is found in the intestinal tract where food is further digested and NUTRIENTS are passed into the blood.A PIECE OF MEAT IS JUST PART OF A CORPSE, and its putrefaction creates poisonous waste within the body, therefore you need to eliminate meat QUICKLY!!
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot For this purpose, carnivores possess alimentary canals only 3 times the length of their bodies. Since man, like other non flesh eating animals, has an alimentary canle 12 times its body length, rapidly decaying flesh is retained for a much longer time, producing a number of undesirable toxic effects!! One body organ adversely affected by these toxicans is the KIDNEY. This organ, which extracts waste from the blood, is strained by the overload of poisons introduced by meat eating
chamokc 1 year ago
@KyureLirnglot Even moderate meat eaters demand 3 times MORE WORK FROM THEIR KIDNEYS than do vegetarians. The Kidneys of a young person may be able to cope with this stress, but as one grows older the risk of kidney disease and failure greatly increases, not to mention heart disease, colon cancer, etc etc, The body is made in a natural order that is produces its own protein! A protein is made up of 22 amino acid the body makes 14 the human need to get the 8 essential amino acids to complete it
chamokc 1 year ago
Yay! Great video :)
Nice work.
BossyDemi 2 years ago
I would like to point out that the human digestive tract is about 30 feet long - about 5 times our body length. This falls right in with carnivorous and omnivorous animals.. Far removed from herbivores. The normal stomach pH is around 2.0, as in other dominantly meat eating species.
lareneggeneral 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog I guess you'd condone rape, because we're just animals, we should act the same right?
Meat eaters are either ignorant or completely retarded.
And have fun stereotyping all vegans as if they act like PETA.
PETA is retarded, there are plenty of vegans, like myself, who support animal testing for medical purposes.
Because SAVING human lives at the expense of animals is not the same as pleasuring your taste buds at their expense.
PETA are idiots, and militant anti vegans are idiots.
hippydude89 2 years ago
I'm a tool? Look in the mirror, you self-righteous jackass. :)
I'm fine with veganism. If you don't want to eat meat, that's your own choice. However, if you have to justify your decision with lies, false logic, and complete idiocy, then go and demonize those that don't choose to follow your stupidity and carry a high-and-mighty attitude about it, then please find a gun and take it to your head. You'll be doing the world a favor. :)
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog it's not lies. It's the truth.
It's more economically stable to have a vegan diet. It's more environmentally friendly to have a vegan diet. How is that a lie, it's a fact.
You can get everything you need from a vegan diet easily. Meat diets increase risks for alot of diseases absent in a vegan diet.
The days of veganism being unhealthy are over in the western world.
You can't find one lie in my arguements, and I challenge you to.
You eat meat purely for selfish reasons.
End of.
hippydude89 2 years ago
"It's more economically stable to have a vegan diet."
Lie. Organic, vegan diets are far more expensive than non-vegan diets. Next time you're at the market, look at the price tags.
"more environmentally friendly to have a vegan diet."
Lie. To produce an equal weight of food in grain as meat, you need quite a bit more space. This means more farmland, more trees cut down, and higher food prices.
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog You feed food + food+ food to feed you= unsustainable.
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog I am an ex meat eater:
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Lie. Organic, vegan diets are far more expensive than non-vegan diets. Next time you're at the market, look at the price tags.
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not true, my diet is much cheaper now.
hippydude89 2 years ago
Ramen is VERY cheap, and not vegan. :)
Almost all cheap food has some form of animal product in it.
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog only because the meat industry has made itself such a big influence.
Ramen is just the SCRAPS aswell you dumb fuck.
It's not like they kill a whole EXPENSIVE animal just for ramen.
hippydude89 2 years ago
Look who's resorting to insults.. Run out of intellegent things to say? Oh, wait, you don't have anything intellegent to say in the first place. LOL
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog Ran out of intelligent things to say?!
You're the one who has quit trying to refute my arguements.
How can you sit there, after I have made my arguement, then ignore them, tell me to look in the mirror, then have the stupidity to claim I'M the one who ran out of intelligent things to say?!
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog I'm the one with a degree in envrionmental geography here.
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog You want it to be lies so badly.
Hide away from logic all you want, you just look pathetic,
hippydude89 2 years ago
Look in the mirror. LOL
I'm done here, but I give you my sincere thanks for making me laugh. You've made my day a happy one, you pathetic Vegan. :)
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog LOL I just disproved every one of your arguements and your comeback is look in the mirror?
I'll have fun looking at my healthy, worked out body.
If your McDonalds ladden fat arse could fit in the mirror, I'd say the same thing to you too.
hippydude89 2 years ago
More insults from the idiot. I don't eat at McDonalds, and I'm quite thin and fit. Oh, and I eat meat. :)
Crawl back in your cave and stay in your warped version of reality.
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog You're the one who doesn't know reality.
The fact of the matter is any problem a plant based diet has a meat based diet will have even more.
You use plant farming to feed meat, over and over, then you need farm space FOR the meat, the animal waste ruins soil quality and gets into the water table then rivers then see leading to eutrophication.
They produce shit loads of methane, countless journeys in lorries to get grain to the meat= more inefficiency.
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog then you could just grow plants, which produce no greenhouse gases and ABSORB C02.
which don't need to take up countless miles of land to grow plants they need to eat.
which don't need countless journeys to take feed.
OH AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER animal farming takes up is INSANELY higher than that a plant based diet takes up.
MORE PROBLEMS!
you're living in a dream world if you just dismiss this shit.
hippydude89 2 years ago 2
"You can get everything you need from a vegan diet easily"
Lie. Vegans need to take suppliments and use specially fortified foods to get the same nutrients that non-vegans get without the hassle.
"Meat diets increase risks for alot of diseases absent in a vegan diet. "
Lie. High cholesterol and fat diets lead to those diseases, not the eating of meat itself. I don't have any health problems, and I eat meat.
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog OH NO NOT VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS WHATEVER SHALL WE DO.
meat eaters have increased health risks that we vegans do not, and also, you only need supplements for ONE thing, B12.
nothing more. AND ALSO now food is fortified with B12 you don't even need supplements any more. So that's your little piece of shit thrown out the window.
Digestion of meat poses so many more ilnesses due to it's release of harmful toxins from it's stagnation in the HUGE intestine of a human.
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog Every doctor I have had said a sensible balanced vegan diet will ultimately be better than a diet with meat.
The fact is meat is no longer nessicary.
MEAT industry pollutes the soil more, adds more nitrates and nitrites to both the soil and the water table, produces far more methane. Requires far more transport= CO2.
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog ANY problem with a plant based diet a meat based diet will have even more, because you have to continually feed your livestock PLANT UPON PLANT UPON PLANT.
it wastes much more land than a vegan diet would.
hippydude89 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog humans only became omnivores when we went to environments that are not naturally ours.
Humans weren't supposed to live in cold places like russia, northern europe and northern America.
That's why they had to eat meat. As we know from our wisdom teeth, male nipples and plenty of other things in nature, evolution is rarely efficient.
that's why, although it occurs in nature, eating meat is harmful.
If you wanna use the "people should eat meet cause they're animals" arguement then..
hippydude89 2 years ago
"A balanced diet consisting of both meat and vegetables will NOT create health problems. "
Wrong, according to the China Study and many others. You can only eat tiny portions of meat or it will eventually cause health problems
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
Those studies are complete bull and have absolutely NO scientific value. They cherrypick data to support a pre-determined outcome. I could make any conclusion I want about anything using the same methods- it doesn't make it accurate, though.
Get your head out of the ground and look at some REAL facts, not this extremist vegan bullsh*t. I eat meat, and have absolutely no health problems. Oh, my, I guess I don't exist!
LOL
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
yeh, they cherry picked data, thats bullshit You eat meat and have no health problems! wow, debate over we have conclusive proof! One case of anecdotal evidence. How do you know you don't have health problems? have you had a comprehensive physical recently? I know a guy that drinks liquor every day and he has no health problems. ergo liquor is is good for you.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
One beer a day has been shown to lower the risk of heart diseases, but excess is harmful to the liver.
Also, there are certain genes that people have that cause hardening of the arteries as you age. I knew someone who's grandmother had this, and she was vegetarian most of her life.
Eating meat is not harmful. Anyone that says it's harmful is spreading propaganda from PETA, who are an extremist, terrorism-supporting group (they help fund the ALF).
Find Penn and Teller's segment on PETA.
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
Screw peta , who gives a crap about them. Meat is harmful and this was known long before peta, so get them off your brain. Nice way to stereotype vegans, and your anonymous buddies anecdotal granny are convincing evidence.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
I guess we shouldn't eat anything, because veggies can be harmful! Remember the e. coli outbreak from spinach?
OMG EVERYTHING CAN KILL YOU MAYBE YOU SHOULD LIVE IN A BUBBLE!!! LOL
Seriously. Get your heaad out of the ground and look at reality. XD
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
are you on drugs? idiotic statements don't relate to anything i've posted.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
They do relate, but you have to have a properly functioning brain to see it. Vitamin deficiencies getting to you? XD
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
you been eating too much lard, its coated your brain. and the hi protein has shrunk it.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
If you think vegans have a problem with vitamin deficiencies? you are a moron
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
Look who's talking! Your brain needs amino acids to function properly. Amino acids are protiens, moron. :)
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
What is a PROTIEN? Your comp needs a competent operator to function properly. Please get an adult to come and talk for you. Grandpa? you there?
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
I do my own computer repairs and upgrades, thank you. :) I'm also a Mechanical Engineering student at Oregon State University. I know what I'm talking about, versus some malnourished, misinformed vegan.
Please, for your own sake, don't reply until you actually have something intellegent to say. Unless you feel like giving me more to laugh at. XD
HermieHedgehog 2 years ago
Wow. you do your own computer repairs and upgrades. you must have an I.Q. of at least 80 then. I been building my own comps since the 286. Whoopee! Mechanical engineering? WTF does that teach you about nutrition? Apparently NOTHING! AL Oerter was an Olympic discus champion and vegan, was he malnourished? or Carl Lewis? Please use your limited intelligence to try to find out what your typing about. and please research isn't anecdotal tales about your inbred family.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
@HermieHedgehog oh right, because you're idiotic enough to think you can only get protein from meat LOL.
You're seriously a complete and utter tool.
everything you get from meat you can get from vegetables WITHOUT the unhealthiness and the cruelty, the damage to the environment, the economic strain etc etc.
You eat meat purely cause you like the taste. It's not nessicary let alone better for you.
Eating meat is unnesicary in a western society and those who continue to do so knowingly are selfish
hippydude89 2 years ago
pandas eat meat
blendin2 2 years ago
Here's one thing to consider.
If Lions could use spears, they would not need large killing fangs, yet their diet would still be comprised of meat...
i.e. Our lack of large killing fangs present in large predators does not mean that we are designed to consume some amount of meat.
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HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
1- Meet me halfway with Sears, B! Titles? Publisher?
2- I've already suggested possible reasons for the reduction in food available at the time. Perhaps with less food about, smaller people survived better. Am I four inches taller than the national average because of what I eat? I doubt it: probably more to do with genetics.
3- So people switched to sedentry agriculture from hunting without making other lifestyle changes? Neat trick.
HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
Thank you...
celt130 2 years ago
The problem with all this vegan militant propaganda is the fact that somehow it's OK to kill plants,insects,fish but not animals.If you respect live you respect every lifeform and you don't do any eco-racism.We are all aware we need to kill to live so why this hypocrite attitude?Science already proved that plants as animals feel some kind of discomfort or pain.Also,when you kill an animal the meat is dead as when you eat it opposed to plants whom you eat alive.
celt130 2 years ago
Heart diesease probably never has much chance to develop if you run around all day until you are 20 and then die, Will. Life expectancy did go up a bit with agriculture, and so did world population. There was also a bit of a global climate shift going on. All of this must have made all food scarce. You can't support many people by hunting, because the larger, slower-breeding animals become extinct etc.
HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
If we stay on the path we're on, one day humans will have to decide whether to feed the remaining food to ourselves or to cows. Their simply won't be enough coming in to supply the billions of cows and billions of humans. Everyone will HAVE to become vegan, it's inevitable.
mormonsick 2 years ago
I didn't think about that, but that makes sense. Although when that times comes i think it is going to be too late to save the planet or anyone for that matter
whit3c00ki3 2 years ago
of course its bad for the environment. natives in southern america have to give up their forests, so ranchers can grow more soy and corn for cows. it takes 8kg of food to get 1kg of meat.
and you wouldnt prefer meat if you wouldnt fill it with pepper and fry it in vegetable oil.
Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
Your theory is already old, the land in Brazil is now used to grow biofuel because in Brazil the whole country switched over to biofuel thanks to certain ecologists.Evab crimananal organisations are in the market because of the profit they make,so they continue to burn forests.Thank you green guys...
celt130 2 years ago
i think you're in the wrong vid comments. We are talking about vegetarianism what you are talking about is biofuel. I dont necessarily agree with biofuel It does take up a lot of land and the food they grow goes into transportation and not the hungry mouths of starving kids. Going on a vegetarian diet will save more land tho, because you dont have to cut forests to grow the cows and you dont have to cut it down to feed the them either. Btw, iamgandhiful what side are u on u r confusing me? o_O
whit3c00ki3 2 years ago
Well you people seem to have ideas don't you.Biofuel is one of them,saving the earth from global warming (if such thing exist).Now there are using food to run cars,a really wonderfull idea if you think half the planet is starving.Now the big idea would be to become "vegetarian" or "vegan" depending your degree of extremism.You really think that mono-culture is good for the ecosystem?A field is a disaster for life,nothing lives in it.A pasture on the other side is interesting for life and the eco
celt130 2 years ago
omg, didn't i just say biofuels were bad, and you can't just assume vegetarians like myself support "environmental friendly" fuels like biofuel.Plus, if you're going to prove something why don't you stick to what you are saying. One, Pastures are monocultures too. Two Fields are full of life, plants do live too. In addition, those "interesting" pastures of urs is full of disease and slaughter. Maybe you should go visit what u eat and then decide if u still want to continue eating innocent lives
whit3c00ki3 2 years ago
vegan health does last. malnourished kids in africa are doing just fine after weeks of eating peanut paste and corn.
Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
Why don't you try to live from that food and then talk.Vegan health last if you take a very good look at what you eat and if you take food supplements to cover your B12 shortage.That really proves that veganism is a ethical choice not a natural or the best choice for your body.
celt130 2 years ago
Ppl probably wouldn't have to be vegans if dumb asses like you would just limit ur meat intake. Humans get their nutrition from all sorts of foods mostly from veggies (u dont see meat giving you vitamin C). If the world would eat less meat, we wouldnt hav the need 4 huge slaughter farms and maybe all farm animals can be free range. Until that day comes, i have to make up for all of the ppl tat consume an enormous amount of meat by not eating any meat myself. Im trying to do my part what about u?
whit3c00ki3 2 years ago
No need to insult the others to look smart.You don't see plants give your B12 do you?That is the idea of being omnivor,a little of everything even as opposed to what you think there are people in the world who live on a 99% meat diet so everything is possible for humans.That's is why humans survived and conquered the world.I don't make a difference between killing an animal or a plant,both are bad but that is what you need to live.I respect every lifeform something most vegans don't.
celt130 2 years ago
So what do the animals that you eat eat before you eat them celt130? Surely cutting out the middle 'man' is saving plants?
HengistTheGreat 2 years ago
Im sorry for calling names but ppl like you who like to rationalize eating tons of meat is good pisses me off. You cant live only on a 99% meat diet. ur going to get gout and die an early death due to heart disease and lack of nutrients, however u can survive on a lacto-ovo veggie diet w/o the supplements. And i dont believe, although i may be wrong, that you "respect" lifeforms because i dnt think u buy free ranged meat products. u r torturing animals by not doing so, taking away their freedom.
whit3c00ki3 2 years ago
Inuits are doing his for a long time,living from fish and meat.Most nomade tribes have almost an only meat diet like the Mongolians, African tribes and the now disapeared Indian plain culture.Site exists on this subject as on Veganism.What I mean by respecting ALL lifeforms is the fact that I know I must kill to live and the suffering of one lifeform over another is quite hypocritical.
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Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
do ya think the reason we have shorter canines is because our tool using, and general cognitive abilities and that a set of teeth designed for a diverse diet as opposed to solely meat or vegetation is an advantage?
Deathrune456 2 years ago
You should urgently read an article on B12 such on WIKIPEDIA.B12 is only found in meat and meat products,also in fish and I presume maybe in insects,almost none in plants.Graseaters have it in there intestins true a bacteria and predators get there B12 true eating those intestins.Humans get there B12 true food only,no bacteria.Eating a moderate quantity of meat will not kill you.Cancer,heart diseases are mostly genes related that's why a doctors ask you if you have those diseases in your family.
celt130 2 years ago
wikipedia is not a reliable source. Look at the stats- they can be found in the research by John Robbins, who had sefish every reason to promote eating animal products because of what he stood to gain financially, but he chose to study and research to know the truth. How many vegetarians are dropping over due to something missing in their diets? If there is any concern, simply take a B-complex or B12 vitamin, but no one I know who's vegan is dying-- rather is living much longer w/ best health
saramurawski 2 years ago
In general, wikipedia is not a reliable source. However celt's statement is largely correct.
I will tell you that when we find someone under 70 with B12 deficiency in the hospital, the first question I ask is "Are you a vegetarian? How long ago?" If not, then we start looking at intrinsic factor deficiency, or malabsorption problems. I would say at least half of the b12 deficient patients we identified were vegetarians for 6-12 years, unaware that they MUST supplement B12.
eynshamrood 2 years ago
*high fives* i totally agree with you (cute lion picture btw) I just became a vegetarian 2 weeks ago, and i feel so much better being a vegetarian than an omnivore. My theory is that our main diet way back in the day was suppose to be plants and once in awhile our ancestors would be able to catch the occasional animal. The reason we eat so much meat today is because of what you were saying, meat represented wealth in cultures and thus is was advertised so. Meat shouldnt be the center of a dinner
whit3c00ki3 2 years ago
way back in the day our ancestor australopithecus afarensis (lucy) was a scavenger that ate anything they could find. africa turned dry and we had to rely on meat. we were hunter-gatherers, mostly relying on meat, until we started farming thousands of years ago.
I watch a lot of documentaries.
Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
I am a vegetarian. I definetly agree with you. I want to be vegan. But i'm young. And I am going to take my time in it. I almost quit being a veg because I am being teased. People say, "we were made to eat meat." Or "Why dont you eat meat, your to young and it is stupid." I really hate it! But the comment I hate most is "Humans teeth are like a dog. Made to eat meat and always will eat meat!" I personnally think that is outrageous and stupid. If you dissagree, please dont leave stupid comments!
clubpenguinfreak1000 2 years ago
Human teeth are nothing like the razor sharp pointed teeth of cats. They are much more like the dull, flat teeth of vegetarian animals like cows, horses, rabbits. The shape of teeth alone should be enough to convince anyone with half a brain that humans shouldn't be eating animals. Human carnivores are addicted to meat and simply try to justify their addiction.
eeldeal 2 years ago
If we really where not made to eat meat,how can we digest it?Your half brain should chech out why we always took our B12 from meat,fish or insects cause we cannot get our B12 from plants whatever extreme vegans say,science proves you are wrong.And why exactly is it OK to kill and eat plants alive and not animals?plants are living things to who feel some pain.Why is animal pain more interesting or less acceptable then vegetal pain?Interesting question to people who claim to stop pain.
celt130 2 years ago
Humans can digest human flesh. Does that make it alright or healthy to do so?
Neither plants nor animals produce b12. Only bacteria produce it. Animals get it from bacteria.
There is no clear proof that plants feel pain, but it is plainly obvious that animals do.
eeldeal 2 years ago
if you give meat to a pig, they will digest it too.
and plants dont feel any pain at all. they have no nerves, no pain receptors or any clusters of nerves that could be classified as brains.
Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
I think by evolution and adaptation , the human being a race who had to survive extreme conditions in extreme places we developed to eat anything.
The human body can digest almost anything, even insects , if we run out of vegetables and meat for some reason we can digest/eat insects.
So that's my 2 cents, as adaptation went it helped us survive, BUT as modern race we have the option to choose what we eat and what is healthier.
OrcWyvern 2 years ago
Personally, I think that if we were natural carnivores we would have carnivore features. We would have natural weapons as in claws and large canines to take down prey and not man made weapons if we were carnivores. It makes sense. Wouldn't we have what all other predators have if we were meant to hunt?
xxxmissvampire 2 years ago
we have a unique predator feature that not many predators have: marathon. we can run and run and run and stalk an animal until they get too exhausted and it becomes an easy prey. sweating makes marathons easier, carnivores need to cool down.
Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
Being omnivores, we have a system that falls in the middle of the two. If you don't want to eat meat just leave it at that.. Making the tooth argument only hurts your particular cause does it not??
1957stan 2 years ago
Human teeth are like a cow's... They are closer to pigs which are omnivores. We also dont have four chambered stomachs like cows. Nor do we have to regurgitate our food and chew it (cud) like a cow. Also, our closest relatives, the chimpanzee (sharing 98% DNA with humans) are omnivores
ViolentFactor1928 2 years ago
i'm not gonna waste time commenting on any of the ridiculous arguments from meat eaters on this thread. just wanna say, you did a great job on the vid, porolita22!
KiroPhoto 2 years ago
Produce studies that support your health claims.
"Go vegan and no one gets hurt"
Not true. Agriculture kills. Hundreds of animals die per acre of vegetables, soy, grains, etc.
Local diet causes far less harm. If I practice permaculture to grow my own food, and get meat from hunting, I fall below you in environmental impact and animal suffering used to feed myself.
Be vegan, vegetarian, etc... whatever, but shut up with the propaganda, fear-mongering, and dogmatic moral-high-ground nonsense.
withindarkness 2 years ago
What animal we resemble is totally irrelevant... we are our own species, and I can find examples that could be used to argue the opposite.
A sheep's intestinal system, for example, is far longer than ours, we have no rumen, we have a high acid stomach (pH 3), with more enzymes specifically for meat and other animal parts than for plants
Basic high school bio debunks all the claims made about digestive anatomy. They aren't even twisted/misrepresented...they are simply wrong.
withindarkness 2 years ago
The teeth argument still falls in omni's favor (I don't think anyone has said "carnivore" except vegans).
Those teeth did exist in the human lineage for the purpose of killing and eating meat.
Tool use (not diet) made them obsolete, however, so they have become much smaller.
We didn't need them anymore (we could trap, spear, or bash prey instead of relying on teeth)
Strange that you try to act tolerant, while listing off pure anti-meat propaganda with no studied basis (anatomy, for example).
withindarkness 2 years ago 2
So sick of hearing about how evil it is to eat meat, if you want to eat only plants then ok, but i'm not going to jump on your balls because of the number of plants you've killed and make up some moral high ground because i think my diet is moral than yours. I find it arrogant and quite fucking annoying. Hooray for you but shut up allready. People are going to eat meat if they want. We are free to make that choice you fucking carrot nazis
rustedromeo 2 years ago
And try being fuckin' honest, man. Colon cancer and all meat-related illnesses result from too much meat when there is no moderation. No one is saying that humans are carnivores, which is the crux of this video's argument.
Hell, even too many nuts for a pregnant woman increases the risk of athsma in their children. Hell, nuts themselves could cause (sometimes) fatal allergic reactions.
So at least attempt to be honest in your videos. As a vegetarian, it will be hard, but you can do it.
StraightOuttaDC 2 years ago
Bee. Ess.
Humans don't chew food because we're herbivores, we chew food so we don't fucking choke. It's not rocket science, really. Not even physiology. It's common sense.
Yes, the esophogus can expand some, but not enough to swallow whole foods of any kind. Not even vegetable.
Another fallacy; humans use heat and fire to COOK food, which softens and tenderizes it. It's especially evident in a water-based cooking phenomenon you may of heard of called "boiling".
StraightOuttaDC 2 years ago
Thank you for making this video. I wouldn't have put a panda, though. I would've used closer relatives like gorillas or bonobos who are herbivores and also have canine teeth.
AmericanMonk247 2 years ago
I can give a simple reason why veganisme is not natural,vitamine B12.Plant eating animals get there B12 true bacteria on the ground,meateaters get it because they eat the intestents of there prey.Humans can only get B12 by eating something.Where do you find B12,yes in meat and by-products almost non in plants.The B12 was discovered in the 1920 and what is the danger of a lack of B12.Anemnia and other physical problems,that's why our ancestors have eaten meat from the start,so humans survived.
celt130 2 years ago
Wrong. We've been somewhat herbivorous for most of our existence. We got B12 from BUGS. Insects were (and for some cultures still are) a very abundant food source rich in protein as well. Our evolutionary ancestors confirm this. Most apes are NOT CARNIVOROUS, and when they are labeled carnivorous, it's because they eat insects (ants mostly).
AmericanMonk247 2 years ago
So is eating an insect eating meat? They move around, they are alive, they are definatly not plants, .. I think that qualifies them as meat...Prove me wrong if you can, but you cant lol
rudican 2 years ago
I like the panda example... But excuse me.. cows have four stomachs dont they? where is that example? We dont have four stomachs? And p.s. fuck veganism. My cat told me that eating meat was ok, and this dolphin I talked to at the zoo said that fish is good to eat, so I will go with that.
rudican 2 years ago
Sorry kid but humans are neither herbivores or carnivores, we are OMNIVORES. You can go vegan and nothing stops you... just in your case, what stops you is your mind, because you probably are too dumb to make smarter decisions about what you eat.
OneAnnoyedVegan 2 years ago 2
Oh and p.s. FUCK YOU.
OneAnnoyedVegan 2 years ago
Wow, you act like you know me..but you dont. Thats an amazing palor trick,LOL.
I have my own reasons for making these comments, not just to piss you off.. but that is often an entertaining side effect ;-)
rudican 2 years ago
We all know you're too dumb to rationalize and justify your way of life. You'd rather play stupid, because it's easier.
AmericanMonk247 2 years ago
And what exactly do you know about "MY" way of life? And who exactly is "we all"? HHmm....
rudican 2 years ago
Shhh, go away little boy.
AmericanMonk247 2 years ago
I suppose you know if im a little boy or not? HHhmm.. your a dork. I would welcome a debate with you but you wont have it, thats fine. You just throw a couple insults my way and dont want to write anything else,, why is that?
rudican 2 years ago
rudican, hypocrisy doesn't suit you. Is that not what you've been doing this whole time? Trying to get a rise out of someone, and expecting to get away with "I have my reasons, teehee!"? Yes, I thought so. Yes, ants are meat (I don't know WHY you thought I'd think otherwise. A child's train of thought I suppose.). Go ahead and eat some bugs if you'd like. I'd prefer supplements, being the progressive guy that I am. Now go away little boy.
AmericanMonk247 2 years ago
Hypocrisy? .. There you go making up shit again. So you like popping pills huh, boy, thats natural, lol. And I guess the good thing is you dont even need teeth for that, maybe you should get yours plucked out since you dont need them anymore, maybe you can donate them to a toothless orphan or something, if you have any that is.. ha ha
rudican 2 years ago
rudican, dont act stupid. you know you wrote And ps fuck veganism, and now you're wondering why are you getting insults.
and its "you're a dork", not "your".
now go and feast on meat filled with vegetable spices, fried in a vegetable oil and eat it with a vegetable sauce.
Iamgandhiful 2 years ago
what?
rudican 2 years ago
I never said that we arent omnivores, I implied that I like eating the flesh of dead animals, lol. But since you say we humans are omnivores, whats with the name "OneAnnoyedVegan"?
rudican 2 years ago
Some dumbass told me today we have canines to eat meat.
(moron)
Universethehusky 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
would u rather eat broccoli all your life or steak
austindude15 2 years ago
of course that brocoli, its so delicious! I like it witouht salt or lemon ;)
oigres200 2 years ago
Broccoli isn't all we eat, like steak isn't all you eat.
But since you are comparing it, I must say that broccoli is more fresh and healthier so I'd go with broccoli anyday LOL
porolita22 2 years ago
vegan propaganda!i wanted to be nice but your all retarded making a big deal over food. cant you find something important to whinge about? your not changing anyones minds about meat except for teenage girls and emo faggots.the poor animals! shutup
560287144602817 2 years ago
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We are made to eat meat and vegetables.
Thats why we have canine teeth and why we can move our jaws like herbivores. We have the qualities of both.
Is that really too hard to understand?
antipul446 2 years ago
Congrats on your educated comment. Go read the UN report 'livestocks long shadow' and get back to me.
Are you a lion?
oneandonlyhypnos 2 years ago