Beethoven Quartet no.13 op.130, first movement part 2(2/8)

[beethomozart]

continuation of 1st movement,this allegro suggests the wonder that you'll have to see a toy, putting it by itself in movement,long live ludwig van

[lorpuc]

quartetto italiano è da lacrime. veramente bello

[keimica]

veramente bello, si. questo e vegh quartet--i migliori!

[lorpuc]

l'ho sentito. è un'esecuzione lucida, hanno capito il pezzo e lo fanno capire. Tuttavia l'esecuzione del quartetto italiano mi fa stare molto peggio. In particolare gli ultimi due tempi...

[ohthewiles]

see, i think the quartetto italiano recordings are the best for the late quartets. and op 130 isn't the greatest opus merely because of the cavatina, the first mvmt for god's sake is a stroke of brilliance that unravels itself in such disguised ways over the course of the next five mvmts. the fugue is clearly the final answer to the questions posed by the first four notes and resulting figures and themes, however, the substitute finale is a joke, and yet answers some of the same calls.

[keimica]

I was saying that the cavatina is Beethoven's favorite movement: "the crown jewel"--and that the grosse fuge too was as well.When it debued, people wanted an encore of two of the middle movments and Beethoven said "Cattle Assess!The final movement alone was worth repeating". So, Beehoven clearly loved this opus.I do absolutely love the first movement, of course, and what I love about all the Beethoven quartets is that the payoffs/emotional climax are so beautiful.Vegh is the best at it.

[keimica]

Listen to the emotional climax at the end of the first movement (on my part 2 of first movement) at 9:10 up til about 9:24. But like I said the 1952 recordings were the best. For free listen to, google: cocoa classical, and you will a cocoa classical community website where you sign up for free. type beethoven in search bar top right corner. click on his files (615 of them). go to page 6 and in the middle are the vegh quartet 1952 recordings of the late quartets, and you will be blown away.

[keimica]

Oops, I said all the beethoven quartets. I meant all the late beethoven quartets--They have such beautiful emotional climaxes at the end of the movements. like I was saying at 9;10 of end 1st movement. Or towards the end of the cavatina, which is hard to pin down because of how fluid it is in its emotional weaving, but I'll just say at about 6:22 to 6:32 ending with one note soaring majestically. you can really see why it is Beethoven's favorite.and that soaring note as a finish wow.

[ohthewiles]

well, this isn't as good as the quartetto italiano recording, but i ask you ladies and gentlemen, has their ever been a more beautiful piece of music?

[keimica]

Well, this is the 1970's recording of the vegh quartet. I didn't post the better one from 1952. The Vegh quartet is the best...well, Sandor Vegh is also the greatest composer I can think of as well. And yes, I know of Karajan. But is the Beethoven's greatest. Well, I know he would say yes, since it has his "crown jewel": the cavatina. I love all of his late quartets, so it's hard for me to say.