@sudanesgal in congo people speak lingala,kiswahili,kikongo and french. The 4 principal languages.
congo is one of bigger bantu country with more than 400 ethnic groups and their languages. In reality not a lot of people in the bantu world has the kiswahili for mother tongue it is especially the choice of standardization of gouvernements. as the lingala it is mobutu who chose to make it popular. It is not the mother tongue of all the Congolese.
Kiswahili is not a mixture of Bantu and Arabic. Bantu is not a language!! However, Kiswahili itself is a Bantu language and so is Lingala , Zulu, Luganda, Kikongo, Chiluba, Chichewa, Kirundi, Gikuyu, etc..
Kiswahili grammar and structure is purely Bantu. Arabic contributed in its vocabulary since it was first written in Arabic script. Kiswahili also borrowed some vocabulary from Persian, Portuguese, English, German, French, Hindu, etc. Just as Englsh borrowed from Latin, Greek, German, etc.
lol...for your information im african from gambia. anyway, you have a typical colonial mentality. you seem to like whites more than your fellow blacks. don't african americans have AFRICAN BLOOD in them which SO CALLED WHITE AFRICAN DON'T HAVE? lol...africans are still colonized mentally. so sad you love whites more than your fellow blacks in the diaspora. out of curiosity are you are BLACK AFRICAN or SO CALLED "white" african? I think YOU are the one who is not an african.
Well the comment you made about african americans is just as bad as being racist. You seem to have a problem with them, b/c you brought them up when my comment had nothing to do with them. Anyway, I'm not racist, but I just have a problem with other people trying to copy another's culture as their own. You don't see africans starring in a European artists's music videos do you?
@Totalmachine09: wow you really do have some deep-seated issues with african americans. well why don't you tell them your problems you have with them instead of ranting here on facebook. and if it wasn't for whites slavery would not have happened in the first place. racist whites are the reason the world is messed up not me. anyway, im not going to lecture you about american history, b/c it is a waste of time talking to a white ass kisser like you.
first and foremost the germans dont even have an idea of what kiswahili is unless they come to africa or lern it in college, so its lots of crap to say they brought kiswahili a language they dont even understand themselfs well our history was destroyed by a white man and we are still reading historical books written by them that is the reason of this all crap.
You are wrong, the Germans didn't bring Kiswahili - Kiswahili was long spoken before the Germans came.The first Europeans were the Portoguese by then people were speaking Kiswahili along the east coast of Africa. Kiswahili is a mixture of A rabic and Bantu.
Jeez. Talk about twisting the meaning of somebody's words. Please read what I wrote above CAREFULLY, and then take the time to do research on the standardization of Kiswahili. You will understand what I mean.
Kiswahili is not a mixture of Bantu and Arabic. Bantu is not a language!! However, Kiswahili itself is a Bantu language and so is Lingala , Zulu, Luganda, Kikongo, Chiluba, Chichewa, Kirundi, Gikuyu, etc.. Kiswahili grammar and structure is purely Bantu. Arabic contributed in its vocabulary since it was first written in Arabic script. Kiswahili also borrowed some vocabulary from Persian, Portuguese, English, German, French, Hindu, etc. Just as Englsh borrowed from Latin, Greek, German, etc.
We congolese are the best when it comes music, What is the point of arguing with each other. African people are the best love you all. AWILO YOU ARE THE BEST.
lol kenyans and tzs jazz me. some of the congolese were speaking kiswahili long before you people adopted swahili sanifu. just because dialect yao tofauti doesn't make it inferior.
waswahili are arabs, look at their faces. a man from lamu, mobassa, Gede, Malindi, Zanzibar, Comoros, Kilwa and Lamu are not like a man from burundi. but we know that in burundi, they speak kiswahili but they are not swahili.
be a mswahili and speak kiswahili are two things différents.
98% of swahili numbers are arab.
most of swahili words are are arab.
as i say, someone can't really know which is swahili without learn about swahili islands.
@samomoi You are right but, I wouldnt entirely rest at what you say that waswahili are Arabs. No. Waswahili are people who speak Kiswahili. Never a tribe or a race. The Arabs called people they emcountered along the east African coast as 'Assuahiliay" meaning 'people' of the coasts'. As Kiswahili originates from 15+ Bantu dialetcts including Kingozi, Kiptang'ata, Chichifundi etc.
@intrepeco ikiwa mbaba yako ni mzungu na mama yako ni mwarab. yiko wewe mzungu na mwarab. ikiwa wewe mkeyna bali wewe kusema kingereza, haina mana huka wewe mgereza.
@samomoi Mimi ni Mbantu (baba na mama). Na naongea lugha ya kiswahili. Ye yo te mwenye mzazi ambaye ni mzungu au mwarabu vyo vyote anavyotaka kujiita (sio kazi yangu kupanga identity) akiongea kiswahili huyo ninamchukulia kuwa ni mswahili huyo mtu bado atakuwa na kabila au upande aliochagua kuambatana nao. Kuitana waswahili hiyo ni "colloquial' ndio maana nikasema kwamba 'Mswahili' sio tribe or race of people.
@samomoi Sawa na Mkenya azungumzaye Kiingereza either atakuwa ni Mluo/Mkikuyu, n.k. Hiyo ilikuwa ni jinsi ya Waarabu kuwatenga watoto wao waliozaliawa na waafrika. Kwa hiyo kuwa Muarabu sio kuwa Mswahili na kinyume chake. Hawakuleta hiyo lugha. Inavyoonekana ni kwamba Waarabu ambao walifika katika pwani za Afrika Mashariki na wakawakuta watu (Assuahiliay) wanaongea lugha ambayo baadae ikajulikana kama kiswahili na wakazaa na watu hao wametaka kuwatenga na kuwapa 'artificial race'
@samomoi (Same as Latinas; there is no race known as latinas. Latinas=descendants of Spanish and Native Americans/African Slaves) watoto wao eti waswahili ilhali wamechangia kiasi kidogo tu cha misamiati katika kiswahili. Kwa ufupi; watu wenye asili ya kiarabu hawakuleta kiswahili kwa hiyo si sahihi kuwaita waswahili kwa maana ya kabila au jinsi yao; ila wanatumia lugha ya kiswahili just like any other kiswahili speaking person like you.
@samomoi Nitakuita Mswahili ikiwa nitaona unaweza ukacheza na maneno ya kiswahili katika kujieleza lakini haina maana ya kwamba baba/mama yako ni Muarabu..
Ivory, slave and other kinds of trade between the coast and mainland evolved Kiswahili along trade routes and main trade centers (Zanzibar, Lamu, etc) Interaction with Arabs, Persians, Indians from the Indian ocean and later Portuguese, Germans, British brought borrowed vocabulary and intermarriages with bantus brought the descendants of the visitors who were born in Kiswahili evolution. The ones you call Arabs.
Of course Kiswahili is now spread and there are Arabs in Oman & Dubai who speak it. Similarity in vocabulary btn Kiswahili and Setswana, isizulu, Isixhosa, Kalanga languages is amazing. So it developed from Bantu dialects first and evolved as it encountered and borrowed words from Arabic and other languages. Natumaini nimefafafanua zaidi.
thats alot of crap you realy dont know what you r talking about Iam a mswahili wa ndani probably you even dont know what this mean .we didnt adopt swahili you guys are the one who adopted swahili which is good because we would love swahili to be spoken all Africa :) , so my brother or my sister whoever you are pls think before you say thank you
Kajanjamona, I'm not sure if you're responding to me. If you are: First of all I'm East African, not Congolese. 2ndly, if you're a Mswahili, fine, haki unayo. Lakini most Kenyans and Tanzanians who laugh at the Congolese only started speaking Kiswahili 2 generations ago, and even then, they are not speaking Kiamu, Kimtangata, Kimvita etc. They're speaking a standardized Kiswahili brought to us by German missionaries! Some of the Congolese were already speaking Kiswahili in the 19th century.
WELL I dont know where you do ur research , but its real crap to write here that thge germans kiswahili, I live in germany but i have never met a german who speak kiswahili.unless they learn it in school. African history was destroyed with white men who can to Africa and started writing history books based on guess and lies . ppl are till reading this bougas history books and confidently writing shit here about kiswahili was broght by the germans .
@olun2d yes african history was destroyed by white people but us african chose to ignore that before white people come distroy our country it was the arabic. nobody tell that the word swahili was born by the slavery of bantu people by the persan.
The business has Zanzibar epices, the copper yes but especially the slaves during several centuries.
The Germans may not have created Kiswahili, but it is the German missionaries who popularized the version of Kiswahili spoken widely in East Africa today. Ask the actual Waswahili from Lamu, Malindi and Mombasa and they will tell you that Kiswahili Sanifu is not their language. I kindly suggest that you read your history. You could start with one written by a Mswahili, Abdallah Khalid. It's called "The Liberation of Swahili from European Appropriation ". Kuwa mstaarabu, bro. Rudeness haifai.
There you go again, how could the Germans spread Kiswahili when they don't even understand "habari yako" leave alone "salam alekum" If what you say is true then mention just a single German word in Kiswahili. Why the obsession with the Germans? I am a mswahili, like I mentioned before Kiswhili is mixture of arabic and Bantu and if anybody spread Kiswahili then it must be the Arabs.
i will simply suggest that you read the following books: "swahili beyond the boundaries" by alamin mazrui and "the liberation of swahili from european appropriation" by abdallah khalid. then we can continue the discussion.
oh, btw, i couldn't resist. one swahili word of german origin is "shule" comes from the german word "schule".
and another thing, i am talking about the german missionaries who lived on the east african coast, not about all germans. those missionaries are the ones who translated the bible into kiswahili, and in order to do that, they had to create a latin orthography for kiswahili and to choose a dialect which they would then standardize. this really is basic east african history.
@odiskamata ok. like intrepeco suggested, there is no need to bicker but we should not distort facts. The words - shule, hela, yai - are certainly German. Apart from Bantu, Arabic and English, Swahili also contains a host of other words as well (Persian, Portuguese, Turkish, French, Latin, Greek, ..... - you name it!)
@odiskamata Maybe we should concentrate on the music. But I am 100% sure that - shule, hela and yai - are borrowed from German. If you wish I can send the full etymology to your private address. It is normal for international languages to borrow numerous foreign words. So let us not get stuck with the Germans. The only words the Germans adopted from TZ are - safari , Usambara violet.
Evey word in Swahili ends with a vowel, except some of those words introduced by Arabs. Abrabs introduced words which stand out as unofficial Swahili words. So Arabs didn't really introduce Swahili, because the Bantus had already done it.
@nubian377 I beg to differ.. unatokea sehemu gani? n which Swahili do u speak? even words of arabic origin end in vowel, ex, Kitab became Kitabu, Kahwa=Kahawa, Salaam=Salamu, magh'arib= magharibu, Rehma=Rehema, Jamhuriya=Jamhuri, and the list goes on.. yes bantus MADE swahili but it flourished even as mixed with arabic and began to be written and documented in arabic. and haha, u funny, coz arabic origin words are VERY official, in fact abt 32% of swahili is arabic-origin! the rest is bantu.
Well, you are still proving my point. Those words are not official Arabic words, because they have been transformed into Swahili, by inclusion of Bantu pronunciations. Those words you mention, are therefore Swahili words - they have been TRANSFORMED. So i am still right that all words in Swahili end in vowels, unless the word is exclusively Arabic in nature(UNTRANSFORMED). You get my point?
@nubian377 yes, but YOU r very much proving my point that "Evey word in Swahili ends with a vowel, INCLUDING some of those words introduced by Arabs" the things We all agree that 1) Arabs have influenced Swahili but we disagree on 2) even arabic words end in vowels, and some Swahili words don't end in vowels, ex Dar=house Ajab=wonder, Stahimil and plenty more HOWEVER.. you didn't answer my qtn as to which Swahili dialect do you speak? maybe the swahili we speak is frm different places peace!
Dar is an exclusively arabic word. Its not swahili, and so is Ajab. But i will agree that the words "Ajabu" and "Nyumba" are swahili words. Stahimil, is also not swahili. Stahimili is. Most people that use variances of the words you just quoted, live in the coastal areas of Kenya (Mombasa), where there is greater Arab influence. I speak and can write the Kenyan swahili. But i am guessing you have a more coastal experience, or a Tanzanian one? Perhaps Zanzibar swahili?
stamihili is kiswahili. if u want to know true kiswahili, u must travel to Mombasa, Gede, Malindi, Zanzibar, Comoros, Kilwa and Lamu. kiswahil is spoken in most countries but the countries wich speak are not all swahili.
@odiskamata Ma mum comes from Kenya but i was grown up in germany but just grown up with the Kenyan culture and i can say that germans always think they are the greatest and they can do evrything
they just have to know whats nakupenda and they thinkin that they can speak swahili... -.-'
@quaggaxp 1. the ACTUAL Waswahili are mainly from Tzanian coast, and the southern coast of Kenya, ex Mombasa(coz its close 2TZ..lol) 2. YES indeed Swahili Sanifu was popularized by GERMANS but that is the reasons many Tzanians say that Kenyan swahili is not "REAL", coz Swahili was first written by Arabic, n its proper pronounciations SOUND similar, properly!.. ex Tanzania- Haujambo?.. Kenyan-Jambo?.. jambo was popular coz it was easier to Germans!.. real Mombasa peeps neva say "Jambo"!!.. NEVER!
@we315tisini you forgot to include the southern coast of somalia. it's true that most kenyans don't speak the best swahili. that's because of mother tongue influence. mainland tanzanians are the ones who speak swahili sanifu. and i assure you i have swahili friends from lamu, mombasa and malindi who say tanzanians don't speak proper swahili. to them, swahili sanifu is not as authentic as kiamu and the other original swahili dialects. :D Oh, In kenya we say "Hujambo". It's tourists who say jambo.
@we315tisini I guess my point is that, everyone wants to claim that they speak the best swahili, including some of the Kenyans I see laughing at Congolese swahili. Meanwhile Kenyans on average do not speak swahili correctly and the Tanzanians laugh at them. As for watanzania kutoka barani, waswahili laugh at them and say they don't speak proper swahili... lol. It's funny when you think about it.
@quaggaxp i agree 100% and yes, somalians do indeed speak swahili, again, its a dialect of swahili, i guess we shld all stop trying to say which country is best but rather say, Swahili is not a Kenyan language or Tanzananian language but rather a pigeon language formed by a mix of different languages, In Tz, most ppl believe the "TRUE" swahili is from Zanzibar/Kiunguja, in fact swahili sanifu is based on Kiunguja., nways, the bottom line= Swahili is coastal lingua that gets modified everyday
thiz guy learned swahili from his cuzos lovi and christian in kenya thatz wassup look at him ati 'nasema kwa ukiswahili'wtf awilo jus go sleep leave thiz for kenyanz and tanzanias
there are different swahili dialects. While he might not sound "correct" to a tanzania/kenyan, that doesnt necessarily mean its wrong..tanzanians like to think kenyan's swahili is "broken" for the same reason, just two dialects..
Kenyan swahili is mostly influenced by English, hence sheng. in fact Kenya is an English speaking country, everything official is done is in English. Tanzanians might be right. I'm not a Tanzanian or a Kenyan I just get interested in Africa and I figure it out.Thanks to Internet.
@mtzmtulivu Your comment cannot go unsupported. I hate the idea of some TZ people thinking they are the only ones who speak good Swahili. As you said, there are various versions or dialects. Congolese Swahili should be validated just like Kimrima or Kimvita. How come the British, French, Germans etc. officially acknowledge different versions or dialects of their languages without bickering?
@mfurukutwa I guess we are young nations. So we still have the idea that there's only one correct way to do things. But with time, we learn more, interact with other people and mature. I think it's great you mention the different varieties of European languages. Excellent example!
haha awilo can speak swahili
TheEddie24ful 6 months ago
I know most of wakeyna and watanzania speak swahili but less of wakeyna and watanzania are swahili.
Keyna is not Lamu, mobassa, gonzi(...) Tanzania is not zanzibar...
samomoi 6 months ago
was tht french the girl was singing? im nigerian n i have NO CLUE wat they're saying but im LOVIN it! :)
MissOgunro 1 year ago
Toooo muuuch Bush meat bro............
Simba5124 1 year ago
ahhah, kiswahili gani? just disgusting
Khavayi 1 year ago
No ... dat de old hooker me see Nairobi lars month ... smelly hyena!!!
happyenjoytime 1 year ago
since when awilo sings in kiswahili
sudanesgal 1 year ago
@sudanesgal People in Zaire speak swahili.
Generalidibabu 1 year ago
@Generalidibabu i thought they spoke lingala
sudanesgal 1 year ago
@sudanesgal in congo people speak lingala,kiswahili,kikongo and french. The 4 principal languages.
congo is one of bigger bantu country with more than 400 ethnic groups and their languages. In reality not a lot of people in the bantu world has the kiswahili for mother tongue it is especially the choice of standardization of gouvernements. as the lingala it is mobutu who chose to make it popular. It is not the mother tongue of all the Congolese.
manassee 1 year ago
@manassee i just didnt know congo people spoke swahili thats it ,thanks for the history lesson though
sudanesgal 1 year ago
@sudanesgal you're welcom, peace!
manassee 1 year ago
@manassee french is lgg at school.. its 4 with kilumba.. not french
fallyjan 9 months ago
hey awilo longombass
i know u are brothe kids
they are also singer at kenya
and im very fun of them
awilo nice try but u still sing with broken swahili
im actuaaly from somalia
i live kenya for quite and longombass they are famous in kenya
maimunamuna 1 year ago
@maimunamuna this is not broken kiswahili.. it accent of kinshasa.. you should hear how ppl speak swahili in lubumbashi
fallyjan 9 months ago
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Kiswahili is not a mixture of Bantu and Arabic. Bantu is not a language!! However, Kiswahili itself is a Bantu language and so is Lingala , Zulu, Luganda, Kikongo, Chiluba, Chichewa, Kirundi, Gikuyu, etc..
Kiswahili grammar and structure is purely Bantu. Arabic contributed in its vocabulary since it was first written in Arabic script. Kiswahili also borrowed some vocabulary from Persian, Portuguese, English, German, French, Hindu, etc. Just as Englsh borrowed from Latin, Greek, German, etc.
HeshimaJameni 2 years ago
to all the idiots who doesnt know where the swahili came from google it in wikipedia damn
dianahkerry 2 years ago 2
why did he put that pale face girl in there
kahua33 2 years ago 2
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odiskamata 2 years ago
i know right. why did he put a white girl in the video. i hate it when white girls try to imitate black girls.
phys08 2 years ago
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Totalmachine09 2 years ago
lol...for your information im african from gambia. anyway, you have a typical colonial mentality. you seem to like whites more than your fellow blacks. don't african americans have AFRICAN BLOOD in them which SO CALLED WHITE AFRICAN DON'T HAVE? lol...africans are still colonized mentally. so sad you love whites more than your fellow blacks in the diaspora. out of curiosity are you are BLACK AFRICAN or SO CALLED "white" african? I think YOU are the one who is not an african.
phys08 2 years ago
I don't like whites more than black people. I just don't like racists
Totalmachine09 2 years ago
Well the comment you made about african americans is just as bad as being racist. You seem to have a problem with them, b/c you brought them up when my comment had nothing to do with them. Anyway, I'm not racist, but I just have a problem with other people trying to copy another's culture as their own. You don't see africans starring in a European artists's music videos do you?
phys08 2 years ago
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Totalmachine09 2 years ago
@Totalmachine09: wow you really do have some deep-seated issues with african americans. well why don't you tell them your problems you have with them instead of ranting here on facebook. and if it wasn't for whites slavery would not have happened in the first place. racist whites are the reason the world is messed up not me. anyway, im not going to lecture you about american history, b/c it is a waste of time talking to a white ass kisser like you.
phys08 2 years ago
i meant ranting here on *youtube.
phys08 2 years ago
Also most African american DO al have WHITE BLOOD, which you hate so much. People like you are part of the reason why this world in fucked up
Totalmachine09 2 years ago
dis dude need to go school ,,,,da man disrespect swahili,,,,
beez94 2 years ago
first and foremost the germans dont even have an idea of what kiswahili is unless they come to africa or lern it in college, so its lots of crap to say they brought kiswahili a language they dont even understand themselfs well our history was destroyed by a white man and we are still reading historical books written by them that is the reason of this all crap.
olun2d 2 years ago
Mpenzi nakupenda sana" lyric is in the 'Liberian" lyric song of MJ song liberian girl
mummyange 2 years ago
my name is imani...faith in swahili!!! i love my name!!!!!!! LOL
peepz92 2 years ago
omfg my names idea.....buisness in sudan!!!!
ideafm96 2 years ago
braaaappp he speaking my language(swahili) KENYAN POWER
AA1990 2 years ago
You are wrong, the Germans didn't bring Kiswahili - Kiswahili was long spoken before the Germans came.The first Europeans were the Portoguese by then people were speaking Kiswahili along the east coast of Africa. Kiswahili is a mixture of A rabic and Bantu.
odiskamata 2 years ago
Jeez. Talk about twisting the meaning of somebody's words. Please read what I wrote above CAREFULLY, and then take the time to do research on the standardization of Kiswahili. You will understand what I mean.
quaggaxp 2 years ago
Kiswahili is not a mixture of Bantu and Arabic. Bantu is not a language!! However, Kiswahili itself is a Bantu language and so is Lingala , Zulu, Luganda, Kikongo, Chiluba, Chichewa, Kirundi, Gikuyu, etc.. Kiswahili grammar and structure is purely Bantu. Arabic contributed in its vocabulary since it was first written in Arabic script. Kiswahili also borrowed some vocabulary from Persian, Portuguese, English, German, French, Hindu, etc. Just as Englsh borrowed from Latin, Greek, German, etc.
HeshimaJameni 2 years ago 3
@HeshimaJameni you ment kikuyu?? i have haerd all lgg you said n i can speak some of dem :)
fallyjan 9 months ago
im zambian too holla atcho boy
kcyrusmusik 3 years ago
he wassup...
zambia rep witcha
baboonking32 2 years ago
wooohooo Im Zambian tooo!!
2gilberte 3 years ago
hey zambia all da way..lusaka my nig
baboonking32 2 years ago
We congolese are the best when it comes music, What is the point of arguing with each other. African people are the best love you all. AWILO YOU ARE THE BEST.
OriginCongo1989 3 years ago
yes i'm Zambian but have to give you Congolese props!We all love it even though we don't understand it! lol!
smileyflo 3 years ago
i'm from congo but i lived in zambia too. i'm now in america. i also love zambian music
OriginCongo1989 3 years ago
lol kenyans and tzs jazz me. some of the congolese were speaking kiswahili long before you people adopted swahili sanifu. just because dialect yao tofauti doesn't make it inferior.
quaggaxp 3 years ago 2
Guys stop figting over Kiswahili coz nobody owns it..
hellah..
intrepeco 2 years ago 6
@intrepeco
waswahili are arabs, look at their faces. a man from lamu, mobassa, Gede, Malindi, Zanzibar, Comoros, Kilwa and Lamu are not like a man from burundi. but we know that in burundi, they speak kiswahili but they are not swahili.
be a mswahili and speak kiswahili are two things différents.
98% of swahili numbers are arab.
most of swahili words are are arab.
as i say, someone can't really know which is swahili without learn about swahili islands.
samomoi 6 months ago
@samomoi You are right but, I wouldnt entirely rest at what you say that waswahili are Arabs. No. Waswahili are people who speak Kiswahili. Never a tribe or a race. The Arabs called people they emcountered along the east African coast as 'Assuahiliay" meaning 'people' of the coasts'. As Kiswahili originates from 15+ Bantu dialetcts including Kingozi, Kiptang'ata, Chichifundi etc.
intrepeco 6 months ago
@intrepeco ikiwa mbaba yako ni mzungu na mama yako ni mwarab. yiko wewe mzungu na mwarab. ikiwa wewe mkeyna bali wewe kusema kingereza, haina mana huka wewe mgereza.
samomoi 6 months ago
@samomoi Mimi ni Mbantu (baba na mama). Na naongea lugha ya kiswahili. Ye yo te mwenye mzazi ambaye ni mzungu au mwarabu vyo vyote anavyotaka kujiita (sio kazi yangu kupanga identity) akiongea kiswahili huyo ninamchukulia kuwa ni mswahili huyo mtu bado atakuwa na kabila au upande aliochagua kuambatana nao. Kuitana waswahili hiyo ni "colloquial' ndio maana nikasema kwamba 'Mswahili' sio tribe or race of people.
intrepeco 6 months ago
@samomoi Sawa na Mkenya azungumzaye Kiingereza either atakuwa ni Mluo/Mkikuyu, n.k. Hiyo ilikuwa ni jinsi ya Waarabu kuwatenga watoto wao waliozaliawa na waafrika. Kwa hiyo kuwa Muarabu sio kuwa Mswahili na kinyume chake. Hawakuleta hiyo lugha. Inavyoonekana ni kwamba Waarabu ambao walifika katika pwani za Afrika Mashariki na wakawakuta watu (Assuahiliay) wanaongea lugha ambayo baadae ikajulikana kama kiswahili na wakazaa na watu hao wametaka kuwatenga na kuwapa 'artificial race'
intrepeco 6 months ago
@samomoi (Same as Latinas; there is no race known as latinas. Latinas=descendants of Spanish and Native Americans/African Slaves) watoto wao eti waswahili ilhali wamechangia kiasi kidogo tu cha misamiati katika kiswahili. Kwa ufupi; watu wenye asili ya kiarabu hawakuleta kiswahili kwa hiyo si sahihi kuwaita waswahili kwa maana ya kabila au jinsi yao; ila wanatumia lugha ya kiswahili just like any other kiswahili speaking person like you.
intrepeco 6 months ago
@samomoi Nitakuita Mswahili ikiwa nitaona unaweza ukacheza na maneno ya kiswahili katika kujieleza lakini haina maana ya kwamba baba/mama yako ni Muarabu..
intrepeco 6 months ago
Ivory, slave and other kinds of trade between the coast and mainland evolved Kiswahili along trade routes and main trade centers (Zanzibar, Lamu, etc) Interaction with Arabs, Persians, Indians from the Indian ocean and later Portuguese, Germans, British brought borrowed vocabulary and intermarriages with bantus brought the descendants of the visitors who were born in Kiswahili evolution. The ones you call Arabs.
intrepeco 6 months ago
Of course Kiswahili is now spread and there are Arabs in Oman & Dubai who speak it. Similarity in vocabulary btn Kiswahili and Setswana, isizulu, Isixhosa, Kalanga languages is amazing. So it developed from Bantu dialects first and evolved as it encountered and borrowed words from Arabic and other languages. Natumaini nimefafafanua zaidi.
intrepeco 6 months ago
thats alot of crap you realy dont know what you r talking about Iam a mswahili wa ndani probably you even dont know what this mean .we didnt adopt swahili you guys are the one who adopted swahili which is good because we would love swahili to be spoken all Africa :) , so my brother or my sister whoever you are pls think before you say thank you
kajanjamona 2 years ago
Kajanjamona, I'm not sure if you're responding to me. If you are: First of all I'm East African, not Congolese. 2ndly, if you're a Mswahili, fine, haki unayo. Lakini most Kenyans and Tanzanians who laugh at the Congolese only started speaking Kiswahili 2 generations ago, and even then, they are not speaking Kiamu, Kimtangata, Kimvita etc. They're speaking a standardized Kiswahili brought to us by German missionaries! Some of the Congolese were already speaking Kiswahili in the 19th century.
quaggaxp 2 years ago
WELL I dont know where you do ur research , but its real crap to write here that thge germans kiswahili, I live in germany but i have never met a german who speak kiswahili.unless they learn it in school. African history was destroyed with white men who can to Africa and started writing history books based on guess and lies . ppl are till reading this bougas history books and confidently writing shit here about kiswahili was broght by the germans .
olun2d 2 years ago
@olun2d yes african history was destroyed by white people but us african chose to ignore that before white people come distroy our country it was the arabic. nobody tell that the word swahili was born by the slavery of bantu people by the persan.
The business has Zanzibar epices, the copper yes but especially the slaves during several centuries.
manassee 1 year ago
The Germans may not have created Kiswahili, but it is the German missionaries who popularized the version of Kiswahili spoken widely in East Africa today. Ask the actual Waswahili from Lamu, Malindi and Mombasa and they will tell you that Kiswahili Sanifu is not their language. I kindly suggest that you read your history. You could start with one written by a Mswahili, Abdallah Khalid. It's called "The Liberation of Swahili from European Appropriation ". Kuwa mstaarabu, bro. Rudeness haifai.
quaggaxp 2 years ago
There you go again, how could the Germans spread Kiswahili when they don't even understand "habari yako" leave alone "salam alekum" If what you say is true then mention just a single German word in Kiswahili. Why the obsession with the Germans? I am a mswahili, like I mentioned before Kiswhili is mixture of arabic and Bantu and if anybody spread Kiswahili then it must be the Arabs.
odiskamata 2 years ago 7
i will simply suggest that you read the following books: "swahili beyond the boundaries" by alamin mazrui and "the liberation of swahili from european appropriation" by abdallah khalid. then we can continue the discussion.
quaggaxp 2 years ago
oh, btw, i couldn't resist. one swahili word of german origin is "shule" comes from the german word "schule".
and another thing, i am talking about the german missionaries who lived on the east african coast, not about all germans. those missionaries are the ones who translated the bible into kiswahili, and in order to do that, they had to create a latin orthography for kiswahili and to choose a dialect which they would then standardize. this really is basic east african history.
quaggaxp 2 years ago
@odiskamata ok. like intrepeco suggested, there is no need to bicker but we should not distort facts. The words - shule, hela, yai - are certainly German. Apart from Bantu, Arabic and English, Swahili also contains a host of other words as well (Persian, Portuguese, Turkish, French, Latin, Greek, ..... - you name it!)
mfurukutwa 1 year ago
@mfurukutwa Perhaps it the Germans who adopted "yai,hela shule" ands other Kiswahili words?
odiskamata 1 year ago
@odiskamata Maybe we should concentrate on the music. But I am 100% sure that - shule, hela and yai - are borrowed from German. If you wish I can send the full etymology to your private address. It is normal for international languages to borrow numerous foreign words. So let us not get stuck with the Germans. The only words the Germans adopted from TZ are - safari , Usambara violet.
mfurukutwa 1 year ago
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Evey word in Swahili ends with a vowel, except some of those words introduced by Arabs. Abrabs introduced words which stand out as unofficial Swahili words. So Arabs didn't really introduce Swahili, because the Bantus had already done it.
nubian377 1 year ago
@nubian377 I beg to differ.. unatokea sehemu gani? n which Swahili do u speak? even words of arabic origin end in vowel, ex, Kitab became Kitabu, Kahwa=Kahawa, Salaam=Salamu, magh'arib= magharibu, Rehma=Rehema, Jamhuriya=Jamhuri, and the list goes on.. yes bantus MADE swahili but it flourished even as mixed with arabic and began to be written and documented in arabic. and haha, u funny, coz arabic origin words are VERY official, in fact abt 32% of swahili is arabic-origin! the rest is bantu.
we315tisini 1 year ago
@we315tisini
Well, you are still proving my point. Those words are not official Arabic words, because they have been transformed into Swahili, by inclusion of Bantu pronunciations. Those words you mention, are therefore Swahili words - they have been TRANSFORMED. So i am still right that all words in Swahili end in vowels, unless the word is exclusively Arabic in nature(UNTRANSFORMED). You get my point?
nubian377 1 year ago
@nubian377 yes, but YOU r very much proving my point that "Evey word in Swahili ends with a vowel, INCLUDING some of those words introduced by Arabs" the things We all agree that 1) Arabs have influenced Swahili but we disagree on 2) even arabic words end in vowels, and some Swahili words don't end in vowels, ex Dar=house Ajab=wonder, Stahimil and plenty more HOWEVER.. you didn't answer my qtn as to which Swahili dialect do you speak? maybe the swahili we speak is frm different places peace!
we315tisini 1 year ago
@we315tisini
Dar is an exclusively arabic word. Its not swahili, and so is Ajab. But i will agree that the words "Ajabu" and "Nyumba" are swahili words. Stahimil, is also not swahili. Stahimili is. Most people that use variances of the words you just quoted, live in the coastal areas of Kenya (Mombasa), where there is greater Arab influence. I speak and can write the Kenyan swahili. But i am guessing you have a more coastal experience, or a Tanzanian one? Perhaps Zanzibar swahili?
nubian377 1 year ago
@nubian377 Yes, coastal Swahili.. i guess our dialects might be a little different
we315tisini 1 year ago
@nubian377
stamihili is kiswahili. if u want to know true kiswahili, u must travel to Mombasa, Gede, Malindi, Zanzibar, Comoros, Kilwa and Lamu. kiswahil is spoken in most countries but the countries wich speak are not all swahili.
samomoi 6 months ago
@odiskamata Ma mum comes from Kenya but i was grown up in germany but just grown up with the Kenyan culture and i can say that germans always think they are the greatest and they can do evrything
they just have to know whats nakupenda and they thinkin that they can speak swahili... -.-'
xXlarryberryXx 4 months ago
@quaggaxp 1. the ACTUAL Waswahili are mainly from Tzanian coast, and the southern coast of Kenya, ex Mombasa(coz its close 2TZ..lol) 2. YES indeed Swahili Sanifu was popularized by GERMANS but that is the reasons many Tzanians say that Kenyan swahili is not "REAL", coz Swahili was first written by Arabic, n its proper pronounciations SOUND similar, properly!.. ex Tanzania- Haujambo?.. Kenyan-Jambo?.. jambo was popular coz it was easier to Germans!.. real Mombasa peeps neva say "Jambo"!!.. NEVER!
we315tisini 1 year ago
@we315tisini you forgot to include the southern coast of somalia. it's true that most kenyans don't speak the best swahili. that's because of mother tongue influence. mainland tanzanians are the ones who speak swahili sanifu. and i assure you i have swahili friends from lamu, mombasa and malindi who say tanzanians don't speak proper swahili. to them, swahili sanifu is not as authentic as kiamu and the other original swahili dialects. :D Oh, In kenya we say "Hujambo". It's tourists who say jambo.
quaggaxp 1 year ago
@we315tisini I guess my point is that, everyone wants to claim that they speak the best swahili, including some of the Kenyans I see laughing at Congolese swahili. Meanwhile Kenyans on average do not speak swahili correctly and the Tanzanians laugh at them. As for watanzania kutoka barani, waswahili laugh at them and say they don't speak proper swahili... lol. It's funny when you think about it.
quaggaxp 1 year ago
@quaggaxp i agree 100% and yes, somalians do indeed speak swahili, again, its a dialect of swahili, i guess we shld all stop trying to say which country is best but rather say, Swahili is not a Kenyan language or Tanzananian language but rather a pigeon language formed by a mix of different languages, In Tz, most ppl believe the "TRUE" swahili is from Zanzibar/Kiunguja, in fact swahili sanifu is based on Kiunguja., nways, the bottom line= Swahili is coastal lingua that gets modified everyday
we315tisini 1 year ago
congolese love their white chicks don they
trishasinger 3 years ago
she looks Asian. They're in France.
ALPHAENGINE 3 years ago
Yoo bro,sikujua wewe uongea kiswahili. nakukia heli na afia njema . Mashallah.
Generalidibabu 3 years ago
I didn't dig the lyrics kinda under-developed,
but totally diggin the fact that awilo is jammin in my language, heck yea!
(p.s. these girls... are def hot)
Passera17 4 years ago
That's sm tight.Siamini.
mwai58 4 years ago
is that one girl white? she looks lyke she could pass for a lil mixed
ngogwet 4 years ago
nice clip i like it
jmesgo 4 years ago
oh gosh didnt kno awilo sings in swahili hahaha this is so sexy sexy sexy aww...? I luv Africa aki maze am Kenyan n we luv u guyz mwaa
wendiep 4 years ago
lol...Awilo sings in swahili...??hongera
cfinix 4 years ago
hey somebody can give me the name, adress and numberf of that gorgeous chinita girl??
zoukeddy 4 years ago
ah!! my new favorite song, is this new? love tha beat.
loyeye2004 4 years ago
Awilo is hot!! now since he took off the bird nest he had on his head.
Nalove1 4 years ago
thiz guy learned swahili from his cuzos lovi and christian in kenya thatz wassup look at him ati 'nasema kwa ukiswahili'wtf awilo jus go sleep leave thiz for kenyanz and tanzanias
kalumnch 4 years ago
there are different swahili dialects. While he might not sound "correct" to a tanzania/kenyan, that doesnt necessarily mean its wrong..tanzanians like to think kenyan's swahili is "broken" for the same reason, just two dialects..
mtzmtulivu 4 years ago
Kenyan swahili is mostly influenced by English, hence sheng. in fact Kenya is an English speaking country, everything official is done is in English. Tanzanians might be right. I'm not a Tanzanian or a Kenyan I just get interested in Africa and I figure it out.Thanks to Internet.
lyonb12 4 years ago
They also speak swahili in Congo
mstuni 4 years ago
I agree, but in the Eastern areas also some musician from Congo migrated to kenya and sing in Swahili
lyonb12 4 years ago
@mtzmtulivu Your comment cannot go unsupported. I hate the idea of some TZ people thinking they are the only ones who speak good Swahili. As you said, there are various versions or dialects. Congolese Swahili should be validated just like Kimrima or Kimvita. How come the British, French, Germans etc. officially acknowledge different versions or dialects of their languages without bickering?
mfurukutwa 1 year ago
@mfurukutwa I guess we are young nations. So we still have the idea that there's only one correct way to do things. But with time, we learn more, interact with other people and mature. I think it's great you mention the different varieties of European languages. Excellent example!
quaggaxp 11 months ago
nice!!!
Mzeepembe 4 years ago
nice song its different
luc99 5 years ago
classy sexy cool! not trashi me like it
jlaborde 5 years ago
alluuuuu affu hii nyimbo nzuri kweli niki isikia napagawa!!!
nazarana 5 years ago
NIMEFURAHA KUSIKIA NYIMBO YA SAUTI YA AFRICA YAMASHARIKIIIIIIIIIIIII. uPENDO NI KIFUNGUO KYA MAISHA
XTKLE18 5 years ago
Nice,but so short..
zuziamina 5 years ago
lol OMG!! Awilo in Swahili!! Wow
SalvaKiir 5 years ago
KWELI ASANTE.. GOOD SONG
XTKLE18 5 years ago