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  • Do I need to tell you my sins today for you to hear my truth today?

  • He was cheating on his wife with a student for FIVE years?! Holy Buddha! 5 YEARS!!! That's a long time to go on living a double life full of lies and deceit. Looks like Genpo Marzel is a master of multiple personalities and living proof that "Big Mind" is a "Big Con".

  • @MayanStarlight Actually, it was three students. And his behavior since then has been childish and irresponsible. Just read his Wikipedia entry.

  • @squamish4244 After further research, I've noticed the entire Integral Life Empire is filled with childish, irresponsible, and unethical cultish behaviors. Corporate greed seems to be the root and shadow of Wilber's world.

  • @MayanStarlight Yes, it's a very strange place, and the cult atmosphere totally turned me off when I briefly checked it out years back. In addition, the way Wilber surrounds himself with controversial teachers - Genpo Roshi, David Deida, Andrew Cohen - who have been caught in or accused of ethical violations and his silence on these matters is bizarre. I stay away from Integral and its people altogether.

  • Foolish, foolish, foolish. You never tell a human being they are alone (not just like everybody else... come on, this is religion 101)

  • Thanks for this :-)

  • Strange that while this guy was talking about loneliness and longing, he was cheating on his wife with a student - for the past five years! He admitted to the affair and disrobed several months ago. He is no longer a Roshi.

  • Also, I am never alone, because I have my singing potatoes to keep me company.

  • I have better advice: Do the practical thing, and go out and make some good friends, but remember to always spend time on your own, too, and enjoy it, so you are strong in both situations.

  • @BEGOODTOYOURDOG1 never read walden huh?

  • zen teachers these days are a dime a dozen, a lot of them quite glib, but have they emptied out? Do they charge for these shin digs? Be very careful when you chose a teacher, it is worth waiting for the right one

  • He Quotes from OSHO: OSHO always pointed out the immense difference between lonliness and alone-nessssssssssssss

  • From the point of view of the divider (the mind ... the thinker ... the ego, call it what you will), looking at "all one" can give the feeling of alone. But from the "all one" there is no alone or loneliness because there is no separation from the one ... or the ALL. You need the divider to feel lonely. If the divider is unreal, then there is no separation between you and the all one, in which, case, there is no loneliness.

  • I don't believe we are all completely alone. We are truly all connected. We are all one. There is no separation. We are connected to other people, other creatures, plants, the earth, the universe. If you open your heart with love, you will feel alive and you will not feel lonely.  Embrace all aspects of life. Everything and everyone is sacred

  • This hits the nail so hard, it goes straight through the plank!

    Read Roshi's first book, and it has had a profound influence on my personal beliefs.

  • I know that we are all alone on life's journey but at the same time connected to everything around us. I feel this connection where ever I am. At home I feel this entwined existence with nature, the trees, birds animals etc etc................ I also have found that spending time with nature produces a balance within .........whereas being with another human can cause unease and sometimes confusion!

  • Ive never been alone, I will always have myself to talk to.

  • Finally, does modern Buddhist thinking have anything to say about the philosophical implications of the discovery that existence is evolutionary in nature?

  • There cannot be existence without 'difference'. If there were only undifferentiated 'oneness' then there could be no form, no pattern, no contrast, and therefore no existence. Without difference there could only be chaos or the void, which are equal and opposite versions of no-thingness'. In human existence, difference, our seperateness, means the possibility of loneliness. Is the possibility of loneliness one of the prices we pay for existing? Is it unavoidable?

    I find this frightening.

  • I struggle with this also - the longing and aloneness feeling. Do many feel this on the spiritual journey?

  • Yes.

    And what he says at approx 2:17  - "coming to grips with the fact that we are each completely alone" - didn't exactly cheer me up!

  • I was thinking the same thing! (:

  • I don't think I quite understood. Can anybody put it into their words for me and see if it clears it up a bit for me?

  • It's about time to see Genpo Roshi like this. Great stuff, long overdue. Keep these coming. Big Mind, Big Heart is everything. Literally.

    And these clips are what it is all about in a nutshell. This one in particular says it all. It doesn't get any simpler. I am. And that's all there is.

  • Very clear and helpful, thank you

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