If u know rules of Arabic and how to read Arabic, bc of the rules, u can read it WITHOUT the "vowel" markings. And they said examination of the previous texts revealed no contradiction .. just replacement of order of chapters. #PeopleNeedToListenLol
I find it interesting that some muslims say the Yemeni quran just has textual variations from the popular one used. Like that makes it not a big difference. If it isn't different, but just textual variations, than make copies of it. Make millions of copies of it and pass it out to all the muslims. If there is no threat and fear from it, make millions and millions of copies of it and send it to all the muslims to replace the current one. Because it is only textual difference.
Where has Dr. Puin pointed out alteration in the modern quran ? . As for the script is concerned, only the writing style is different with Dots like stuff indicating pronunciation . There is no difference in text. After all there is no proof that this copy was authenticated like the others by team of muslim scholars. The Muslim caliph had appointed a team of scholars, to collect the quran
Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh was one of Muhammad's Quranic scribes and told Muhammad if he changed around what Muhammad recited it would sound better...and Muhammad agreed.
Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh, one of the earliest scribes of the Quran left Islam when he knew that if he could add or change words from Muhammad, then it does not come from Allah God.
When he left Islam, Muhammad ordered his killing, but later relented because of his powerful family.
ABDLH.YUSUF ALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
second he said defferent in the reading so what I know that and every muslims know that it is a fact that there is different in the reading but the meaninig is the same
and he said one word could have thirty different meaning so what every arabic speaker know that and the small boy know that it is our language and we can
recognize the meaning between the thirty meaning it is our fucken language do you understand
he said there are differents in the writing so what if there are differents in the writting you will read in the same way every muslim know that when the islam started to spread all over the world the new muslims couldn't read the quran without mistakes so the muslims scientists invent the know writting which included the vowels and dots in the letter
I found to copy of the original fax from Dr. Gerd R Puin with his signature sent to Dr. Muhammad Mustafa al-A'zami.
Please give me a link so i can send it to you brother.
Part of it says: "The important thing, thank God, is that these Yemeni Qur'anic fragments do not differ from those found in museums and libraries elsewhere, with the exception of details that do not touch the Qur'an itself, but are rather differences in the way words arc spelled."
Linguistically, the word Qur'aan means the recited book. The Qur’aan was WRITTEN during the time of Prophet Mohammad, COMPILED during the time of the first Caliph Abu-Bakr, and COPIED during the time of the third Caliph Othman. Unlike any historical text, the Qur’aan was transmitted vocally and in writing as well; and, it was transferred through an entire generation - not just by a group - to its successors, until it reached the present generation, without any interval in this transference.
Musailama Kazzab the false prophet from Yemen, the enemy of Prophet Mohammed wrote those scriptures, everyone knows that just ask any muslim..every muslim knows the existence of the false Koran..
Dear Religious people, stop calling each other liars. Lying and just mistaken are different. This scholar is just trying to solve a mystery because the objects don't seem to match the story. Get over it. Christians posting here are using this video to say that Islam is a mix of different ideas so it is wrong, listen to this. Newsflash, your bible is absolutely a mix of different texts, versions, ideas, from different times. Also, stop calling everyone "brother" you're trying too hard.
Quran was just a 'copy-paste' collections of combined 2nd centurries apocrypal books and some Biblical verses which mohammad heard from his former Jews friends.
The fact that verses from Quran detailing how satan has dictated words to mohammed clearly proves us that Quran is nothing but just a tell-tale, Satan-inspired book by a false prophet and a madman.
@JosephC38 hmm it looks like you were present when the satan dictated those isnt it and by the way it looks like you are a follower of satan so tell him stay away from me
@JosephC38 in the quran, it stated how people use to call the prophet a madman, and how they all ended up after that. and am not sure how satan tells us, to respect our parents feed the poor and pray directly to god(not in human form, and no need for a medium like a priest!) a teen and beat up another teen. at the time it clearly proves that he is a mighty one! however he is just an ignorant little kid. a clear fact for you. why is alcohol forbidden in islam. people die everyday from it!
I agree modern replications of the Qur'an should come without vowel markings, because the vowel markings put a human-defined (and often wrong) perspective on the verses. For example, one verse tells men to beat their wives if they fear she cheats. Without the vowel markings, the proper meaning to "separate from " your wives if you know she is cheating comes out. The interpretation is right as it falls in line with previous passive/nonviolent suggestions(separation is the last resort)
It has been known forever that the original Qur'an lacks vowel markings. Regardless, most words have only one meaning that fits to the flow of a sentence. If there are two meanings, usually it is Allah displaying masterful duality.
Also, how does erasures in an old Qur'an mean anything? What if someone transcribing it merely made a mistake? Think deeply to the last pencil you bought: did it have an eraser? Yes, humans make mistakes.
and type ( Arabic Language) in wiki and choose the language العربية .. u'll see picture of Evolution of early arabic calligraphy (9th - 11th century)..BTW the if the English translation for this article isn't full like the Arabic version
These Manuscripts were written by "Musailama Kazzab" the false prophet from Yemen
during the very life time of Muhammad
He was among the first false claimants to Prophecy.He appeared during the time of Prophet Muhammad and hisCompanions and caused numerous troubles among Muslims and had many followers. He eventually got killed in Al-Yamam battle, led by the first Caliph Abu Bakr.his wife, Sajah al-Kahenah, later reversed her position after her husband, Musailama, had been killed.
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I would rather believe these scholars than a muslim who is the bias one. And i don`t have to do much to malign islam because muslims do that every day
Hey Liverladd, No, if you are a true student of history, then you go and look for answers, you don't start hatting and rejecting an idea simply because some so called scholar said so! and to your surprise, I some what agree with second part of your comment, that Muslims are doing a good job, maliging
Islam by not following the true teachings
of Islam prescribed in "Quran', what they are following are the man made rituals borrowed from Zoaristrians and Judio-Christians dogmas.
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Something tells me that you may well agree with me on muslims maligning islam but i bet not for the same reasons.
A question for you. You muslims believe that the bible and Jewish bible was corrupted so that is why the quran was given to the world and is not corrupted am i right?
The reason why Allah has sent ME is because he was very angry that Quran got corrupted. I bring the updated and corrected version of Allah's Holy Scripture. Unlike, pedophile Muhammad's scriptures, mine are fully documented in written form and free from any error!
Pedophile22 (PBUH) - The beloved prophet of Allah !
I my self have friends that have memorized the whole quran by heart and can recite from anywhere on request. Recently a competition was in which a line was read from anywhere in the Quran and rest continued part should be recited by the onewho had memorized it. They remember it sowell and they hardly mistake. So Quran being changed in the presence of these people is impossible. Even if you burn all the copies of quran in the world yet it would be recompiled easily by the memorizers.
anyone can write quran and make mistakes to it, but there are millions of quran which were written in a pure way and no mistakes at all, there are many memorizers of the quran who had memorize them in a pure and correct way. what a stupid documentary taking one quran for research just simply it was dated back to the 7th century...lol
Without the "Vowels" the Quran is still understandable to the person who wrote it... Besides this video does not carry any weight because the tradition that has been followed since Muhammed's (saas) time till today where millions of Muslims all over the globe have memorized the Quran and know EVERY word is proof enough of the accuracy of the text... Same as the time of Muhammed (saas) when his faithful companions had compiled it from there memory... To know more visit my channel...
But divine intervention also guarantees authenticity... Besides there is tons of proof and historical evidence from NON-MUSLIM historians that can prove the authenticity of the Quranic text,
eg, "In the Quran we have beyond all reasonable doubt, exact words of Muhammad without subtraction and without addition"
(Bosworth Smith, Muhammad and Muhammadanism, p.22)
This is one of many quotations from those who have studied Islamic history and who are even some of the strongest critics of Islam...
As this copy would be only understandable to the natives only not the foreign muslims, it might have caused the confusion cuz IT IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE by the person who knew it by memory ONLY but not for some1 who was unfamiliar & all those who say Quran is not the word of God, you don't know the whole story about this so without thinking u attack Quran but have u ever thought of reading those early manuscripts like Topkapi Manuscript (late 722 CE/early 723) Samarkand Manuscript (890 CE)?
He clearly states that ( "The text was written so defectively that it can be read in a perfect way ONLY IF YOU HAVE A STRONG ORAL TRADITION." THE SA 'NA TEXT, JUST LIKE OTHER EARLY KORANS, WAS A GUIDE TO THOSE WHO KNEW IT ALREADY BY MEMORY, he says. THOSE THAT WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE KORAN WOULD READ IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THERE WERE NO DIACRITICAL & VOWEL SYMBOLS.) You getting the picture now? that's y it was buried cuz the non-native muslims wouldn't have understood it & might have altered it
Look! before attacking Islam use your head a bit. 1. Quran was recited at the time of our Prophet (P.B.U.H) and then written! ok? I guess everybody knew this so it was passed on even to some people who learned it in another dialect but was telling their people in their own dialect which might have caused some confusion so all right now I read Puin's interview in "The Guardian" published in 2000. I will copy what he said in the next comment as the space is not enough here.
IM NOT ASKING ANYONE TO OPEN THEIR EYES/HEART TO ISLAM (only ALLAH can), ITS SIMPLY JUST,,---->PLEASE STOP HATING by just believing the media and STOP BLAMING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY just because the minority does something you dislike.
@lamonteist I believe you should stop lying to yourself first...look...the oldest Qu'ran has been investigated, i mean why are you lying this is pathetic, are you blind? you can't see? i have a friend whose uncle has done this investigation as well, and he was muslim now he left Islam, because it is proven with EVIDENCE that Qu'ran WAS NOT passed down word for word so please time to wake up and realize, dont live a lie..please?
--> while Most muslims revealing the truth,wonderfulness of ISLAM...The others TRYING suprisingly hard to deny it RATHER than revealing wonderfulness of their belief
-->You will HARDLY see,infact,ive NEVER seen a website where muslims just DEDICATE the whole site(despite the time they spent) on MAKING FUN other beliefs,why??? bcause we believe its BIG SINNN to make fun of other belief ! !
-->why different ways of writing quran not important?bcause Quran MEANS to recite=its memorized,,have u ever wonder why EVERY muslims recite the same content while they can make versions of quran if they want?
-->why in arabic? bcause translations will cause more errors
-->AND why so many atheist/christians get so angry when the topic' is 'ISLAM' ? bcause they KNOW they re SO NEAR to the TRUTH that they just have to DENY it by facts(which constantly changing with time)
It is not matter of just believing... the matter is knowing and believing the truth.
Your faith first needs to declare its scriptures as uncorrupted and others as corrupted. This way you can make any book inerrant scripture!!!
The Christian faith does not need to declare old scriptures as corrupted because it is continuation of the same message and truth from the SAME TRUE GOD !!!
Think over this basic before you reject truth of Jesus Christ !
Thanks for sharing your views. I know I defended and explained my faith well and showed you ample support from the true Scripture which is the Bible.
The truth is shining bright and Jesus is calling you to receive to HIM as the Messiah, the Saviour ! Do not hesistate to msg me whenever you need to understand truth of Jesus.
I request you to search more about the truth of Jesus and I am sure God will help you.
The distinction of Son of Man is missed by you. That is why a word "person" is used. Unfortunately, you don't want to LEARN and explore how the "problem" suggested by you is explained and understood.
I can see your struggle but it is because you lack enough knowledge of Christianity. It is like I am trying to show you how 1+1=10 while you want to stick with decimal only!
As i mentioned earlier, your arguments are based on false presumptions about Christianity. Jesus needed to balance between proving His disciples that HE is Son of God who is Son of Man. He cannot claim that HE is God and thus allow disciples to mistook Him as "another" God walking on earth. He carefully explained HE was Son of Man which HE was and enlightened them gradually to the fact that HE is Son of God.
If you read random verses from the Bible then it is hard for your to grasp truth.
Jesus was sent by the Father and that is accepted by Christian. It is clear that you do not have true understanding of Christian faith and so you add your own interpretations to make "sense" of the Bible with biased beliefs thus you not only conclude wrong BUT your arguments do not pose any challenge to Christian faith. You think you made an argument/question but to christian it is pure fabrication which is not taught by Christians.
As i said before an di am repeating!!! Learn the BASICS !
It is wrong notion and belief of Muslims that all prophets were perfect. Islamic teaching NEEDS to glorify Mohammad and hide his errors and so they declared all the prophets as perfect and sinless. You are taught wrong but you believe it as right/truth, no wonder your scale is faulty and so your measure wrong!!!
you have no understanding of Christianity and Jesus. God came as perfect MAN... there is nothing like transformation... it is not like angel visiting mankind...
Jesus kept the disciples focused on the God because HE as Son of Man was the prophet and the messenger.
I already have thought a lot... Why don't you THINK and read the gospels in totality and understand the message and teachings of Jesus...
No one is quoting ONLY ONE VERSE to prove Jesus' deity.
Jesus' disciples, even today, brings healings in the NAME OF JESUS (not in allah or God)!!! So think hard why Jesus taught them to use HIS OWN NAME !!!
The truth of Jesus is not standing on one verse so do enough research and then understand Jesus' teaching to Philip.
Yo ucannot kill my faith because i know the truth... You are not able to grasp the truth... it was YOU who could not understand the basic Christian faith from the beginning otherwise you would have asekd "how Jesus can be human and at the same time GOD"...
Dear brother, i am devastated by your ignorence... I am sorry to say but your blindlness is complete...
If u know rules of Arabic and how to read Arabic, bc of the rules, u can read it WITHOUT the "vowel" markings. And they said examination of the previous texts revealed no contradiction .. just replacement of order of chapters. #PeopleNeedToListenLol
I find it interesting that some muslims say the Yemeni quran just has textual variations from the popular one used. Like that makes it not a big difference. If it isn't different, but just textual variations, than make copies of it. Make millions of copies of it and pass it out to all the muslims. If there is no threat and fear from it, make millions and millions of copies of it and send it to all the muslims to replace the current one. Because it is only textual difference.
Where has Dr. Puin pointed out alteration in the modern quran ? . As for the script is concerned, only the writing style is different with Dots like stuff indicating pronunciation . There is no difference in text. After all there is no proof that this copy was authenticated like the others by team of muslim scholars. The Muslim caliph had appointed a team of scholars, to collect the quran
Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh was one of Muhammad's Quranic scribes and told Muhammad if he changed around what Muhammad recited it would sound better...and Muhammad agreed.
Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh, one of the earliest scribes of the Quran left Islam when he knew that if he could add or change words from Muhammad, then it does not come from Allah God.
When he left Islam, Muhammad ordered his killing, but later relented because of his powerful family.
ABDLH.YUSUF ALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
second he said defferent in the reading so what I know that and every muslims know that it is a fact that there is different in the reading but the meaninig is the same
and he said one word could have thirty different meaning so what every arabic speaker know that and the small boy know that it is our language and we can
recognize the meaning between the thirty meaning it is our fucken language do you understand
he said there are differents in the writing so what if there are differents in the writting you will read in the same way every muslim know that when the islam started to spread all over the world the new muslims couldn't read the quran without mistakes so the muslims scientists invent the know writting which included the vowels and dots in the letter
I found to copy of the original fax from Dr. Gerd R Puin with his signature sent to Dr. Muhammad Mustafa al-A'zami.
Please give me a link so i can send it to you brother.
Part of it says: "The important thing, thank God, is that these Yemeni Qur'anic fragments do not differ from those found in museums and libraries elsewhere, with the exception of details that do not touch the Qur'an itself, but are rather differences in the way words arc spelled."
Linguistically, the word Qur'aan means the recited book. The Qur’aan was WRITTEN during the time of Prophet Mohammad, COMPILED during the time of the first Caliph Abu-Bakr, and COPIED during the time of the third Caliph Othman. Unlike any historical text, the Qur’aan was transmitted vocally and in writing as well; and, it was transferred through an entire generation - not just by a group - to its successors, until it reached the present generation, without any interval in this transference.
Musailama Kazzab the false prophet from Yemen, the enemy of Prophet Mohammed wrote those scriptures, everyone knows that just ask any muslim..every muslim knows the existence of the false Koran..
Dear Religious people, stop calling each other liars. Lying and just mistaken are different. This scholar is just trying to solve a mystery because the objects don't seem to match the story. Get over it. Christians posting here are using this video to say that Islam is a mix of different ideas so it is wrong, listen to this. Newsflash, your bible is absolutely a mix of different texts, versions, ideas, from different times. Also, stop calling everyone "brother" you're trying too hard.
Quran was just a 'copy-paste' collections of combined 2nd centurries apocrypal books and some Biblical verses which mohammad heard from his former Jews friends.
The fact that verses from Quran detailing how satan has dictated words to mohammed clearly proves us that Quran is nothing but just a tell-tale, Satan-inspired book by a false prophet and a madman.
@JosephC38 hmm it looks like you were present when the satan dictated those isnt it and by the way it looks like you are a follower of satan so tell him stay away from me
@JosephC38 in the quran, it stated how people use to call the prophet a madman, and how they all ended up after that. and am not sure how satan tells us, to respect our parents feed the poor and pray directly to god(not in human form, and no need for a medium like a priest!) a teen and beat up another teen. at the time it clearly proves that he is a mighty one! however he is just an ignorant little kid. a clear fact for you. why is alcohol forbidden in islam. people die everyday from it!
I agree modern replications of the Qur'an should come without vowel markings, because the vowel markings put a human-defined (and often wrong) perspective on the verses. For example, one verse tells men to beat their wives if they fear she cheats. Without the vowel markings, the proper meaning to "separate from " your wives if you know she is cheating comes out. The interpretation is right as it falls in line with previous passive/nonviolent suggestions(separation is the last resort)
It has been known forever that the original Qur'an lacks vowel markings. Regardless, most words have only one meaning that fits to the flow of a sentence. If there are two meanings, usually it is Allah displaying masterful duality.
Also, how does erasures in an old Qur'an mean anything? What if someone transcribing it merely made a mistake? Think deeply to the last pencil you bought: did it have an eraser? Yes, humans make mistakes.
and type ( Arabic Language) in wiki and choose the language العربية .. u'll see picture of Evolution of early arabic calligraphy (9th - 11th century)..BTW the if the English translation for this article isn't full like the Arabic version
These Manuscripts were written by "Musailama Kazzab" the false prophet from Yemen
during the very life time of Muhammad
He was among the first false claimants to Prophecy.He appeared during the time of Prophet Muhammad and hisCompanions and caused numerous troubles among Muslims and had many followers. He eventually got killed in Al-Yamam battle, led by the first Caliph Abu Bakr.his wife, Sajah al-Kahenah, later reversed her position after her husband, Musailama, had been killed.
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I would rather believe these scholars than a muslim who is the bias one. And i don`t have to do much to malign islam because muslims do that every day
Hey Liverladd, No, if you are a true student of history, then you go and look for answers, you don't start hatting and rejecting an idea simply because some so called scholar said so! and to your surprise, I some what agree with second part of your comment, that Muslims are doing a good job, maliging
Islam by not following the true teachings
of Islam prescribed in "Quran', what they are following are the man made rituals borrowed from Zoaristrians and Judio-Christians dogmas.
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tarchichin
Something tells me that you may well agree with me on muslims maligning islam but i bet not for the same reasons.
A question for you. You muslims believe that the bible and Jewish bible was corrupted so that is why the quran was given to the world and is not corrupted am i right?
The reason why Allah has sent ME is because he was very angry that Quran got corrupted. I bring the updated and corrected version of Allah's Holy Scripture. Unlike, pedophile Muhammad's scriptures, mine are fully documented in written form and free from any error!
Pedophile22 (PBUH) - The beloved prophet of Allah !
I my self have friends that have memorized the whole quran by heart and can recite from anywhere on request. Recently a competition was in which a line was read from anywhere in the Quran and rest continued part should be recited by the onewho had memorized it. They remember it sowell and they hardly mistake. So Quran being changed in the presence of these people is impossible. Even if you burn all the copies of quran in the world yet it would be recompiled easily by the memorizers.
anyone can write quran and make mistakes to it, but there are millions of quran which were written in a pure way and no mistakes at all, there are many memorizers of the quran who had memorize them in a pure and correct way. what a stupid documentary taking one quran for research just simply it was dated back to the 7th century...lol
Without the "Vowels" the Quran is still understandable to the person who wrote it... Besides this video does not carry any weight because the tradition that has been followed since Muhammed's (saas) time till today where millions of Muslims all over the globe have memorized the Quran and know EVERY word is proof enough of the accuracy of the text... Same as the time of Muhammed (saas) when his faithful companions had compiled it from there memory... To know more visit my channel...
But divine intervention also guarantees authenticity... Besides there is tons of proof and historical evidence from NON-MUSLIM historians that can prove the authenticity of the Quranic text,
eg, "In the Quran we have beyond all reasonable doubt, exact words of Muhammad without subtraction and without addition"
(Bosworth Smith, Muhammad and Muhammadanism, p.22)
This is one of many quotations from those who have studied Islamic history and who are even some of the strongest critics of Islam...
As this copy would be only understandable to the natives only not the foreign muslims, it might have caused the confusion cuz IT IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE by the person who knew it by memory ONLY but not for some1 who was unfamiliar & all those who say Quran is not the word of God, you don't know the whole story about this so without thinking u attack Quran but have u ever thought of reading those early manuscripts like Topkapi Manuscript (late 722 CE/early 723) Samarkand Manuscript (890 CE)?
He clearly states that ( "The text was written so defectively that it can be read in a perfect way ONLY IF YOU HAVE A STRONG ORAL TRADITION." THE SA 'NA TEXT, JUST LIKE OTHER EARLY KORANS, WAS A GUIDE TO THOSE WHO KNEW IT ALREADY BY MEMORY, he says. THOSE THAT WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE KORAN WOULD READ IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THERE WERE NO DIACRITICAL & VOWEL SYMBOLS.) You getting the picture now? that's y it was buried cuz the non-native muslims wouldn't have understood it & might have altered it
Look! before attacking Islam use your head a bit. 1. Quran was recited at the time of our Prophet (P.B.U.H) and then written! ok? I guess everybody knew this so it was passed on even to some people who learned it in another dialect but was telling their people in their own dialect which might have caused some confusion so all right now I read Puin's interview in "The Guardian" published in 2000. I will copy what he said in the next comment as the space is not enough here.
IM NOT ASKING ANYONE TO OPEN THEIR EYES/HEART TO ISLAM (only ALLAH can), ITS SIMPLY JUST,,---->PLEASE STOP HATING by just believing the media and STOP BLAMING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY just because the minority does something you dislike.
@lamonteist I believe you should stop lying to yourself first...look...the oldest Qu'ran has been investigated, i mean why are you lying this is pathetic, are you blind? you can't see? i have a friend whose uncle has done this investigation as well, and he was muslim now he left Islam, because it is proven with EVIDENCE that Qu'ran WAS NOT passed down word for word so please time to wake up and realize, dont live a lie..please?
--> while Most muslims revealing the truth,wonderfulness of ISLAM...The others TRYING suprisingly hard to deny it RATHER than revealing wonderfulness of their belief
-->You will HARDLY see,infact,ive NEVER seen a website where muslims just DEDICATE the whole site(despite the time they spent) on MAKING FUN other beliefs,why??? bcause we believe its BIG SINNN to make fun of other belief ! !
-->why different ways of writing quran not important?bcause Quran MEANS to recite=its memorized,,have u ever wonder why EVERY muslims recite the same content while they can make versions of quran if they want?
-->why in arabic? bcause translations will cause more errors
-->AND why so many atheist/christians get so angry when the topic' is 'ISLAM' ? bcause they KNOW they re SO NEAR to the TRUTH that they just have to DENY it by facts(which constantly changing with time)
It is not matter of just believing... the matter is knowing and believing the truth.
Your faith first needs to declare its scriptures as uncorrupted and others as corrupted. This way you can make any book inerrant scripture!!!
The Christian faith does not need to declare old scriptures as corrupted because it is continuation of the same message and truth from the SAME TRUE GOD !!!
Think over this basic before you reject truth of Jesus Christ !
Thanks for sharing your views. I know I defended and explained my faith well and showed you ample support from the true Scripture which is the Bible.
The truth is shining bright and Jesus is calling you to receive to HIM as the Messiah, the Saviour ! Do not hesistate to msg me whenever you need to understand truth of Jesus.
I request you to search more about the truth of Jesus and I am sure God will help you.
The distinction of Son of Man is missed by you. That is why a word "person" is used. Unfortunately, you don't want to LEARN and explore how the "problem" suggested by you is explained and understood.
I can see your struggle but it is because you lack enough knowledge of Christianity. It is like I am trying to show you how 1+1=10 while you want to stick with decimal only!
As i mentioned earlier, your arguments are based on false presumptions about Christianity. Jesus needed to balance between proving His disciples that HE is Son of God who is Son of Man. He cannot claim that HE is God and thus allow disciples to mistook Him as "another" God walking on earth. He carefully explained HE was Son of Man which HE was and enlightened them gradually to the fact that HE is Son of God.
If you read random verses from the Bible then it is hard for your to grasp truth.
Jesus was sent by the Father and that is accepted by Christian. It is clear that you do not have true understanding of Christian faith and so you add your own interpretations to make "sense" of the Bible with biased beliefs thus you not only conclude wrong BUT your arguments do not pose any challenge to Christian faith. You think you made an argument/question but to christian it is pure fabrication which is not taught by Christians.
As i said before an di am repeating!!! Learn the BASICS !
It is wrong notion and belief of Muslims that all prophets were perfect. Islamic teaching NEEDS to glorify Mohammad and hide his errors and so they declared all the prophets as perfect and sinless. You are taught wrong but you believe it as right/truth, no wonder your scale is faulty and so your measure wrong!!!
you have no understanding of Christianity and Jesus. God came as perfect MAN... there is nothing like transformation... it is not like angel visiting mankind...
Jesus kept the disciples focused on the God because HE as Son of Man was the prophet and the messenger.
I already have thought a lot... Why don't you THINK and read the gospels in totality and understand the message and teachings of Jesus...
No one is quoting ONLY ONE VERSE to prove Jesus' deity.
Jesus' disciples, even today, brings healings in the NAME OF JESUS (not in allah or God)!!! So think hard why Jesus taught them to use HIS OWN NAME !!!
The truth of Jesus is not standing on one verse so do enough research and then understand Jesus' teaching to Philip.
Yo ucannot kill my faith because i know the truth... You are not able to grasp the truth... it was YOU who could not understand the basic Christian faith from the beginning otherwise you would have asekd "how Jesus can be human and at the same time GOD"...
Dear brother, i am devastated by your ignorence... I am sorry to say but your blindlness is complete...
I had sent you email with link to BASIC CHRISTIANITY... it is clear that you don't want to learn the basics brother.
If someone say Muslims are worshipping black stone of ka'aba just like Hindus who also make circles around their idols, then you will ask that person to LEARN !!!
Sameway, i request you to first learn the basic Christianity. Jesus is believed to be a perfect MAN who is Emmanuel. Being a human, Jesus didnt exceed the human-limits even though he could!!!
so the yemini koran proves that the quran in place today is a fraud and not the words of allah or mohammed and that the quran today is merely a misguided translation of the origional....interesting stuff
Yes brother. you are absolutely right. it's not even the word of allah. allah can't speak. it is just a piece of celestial rock, a black stone that fell from outer space.
Nobody from mohammed's early follower can prove that an angel spoke to him because nobody witnessed it or heard it. And nobody would dare to ask for fear of losing their heads. Unlike Biblical prophets, other people or prophets bears witness to others writing.
Yes brother. you are absolutely right. it's not even the word of allah. allah can't speak. it is just a piece of celestial rock, a black stone that fell from outer space.
Nobody from mohammed's early follower can prove that an angel spoke to him because nobody witnessed it or heard it. And nobody would dare to ask for fear of losing their heads. Unlike Biblical prophets, other people or prophets bears witness to others writing.
Why do you want to stick with one verse alone? The same Jesus who said "I am servant of God" is the one who said "I and God are one" "Whosoever had seen me, he had seen the Father" "I give eternal life" "I am the resurrection and life". In the name of JESUS, disciples can HEAL !
Wake up brother... and stop being emotional. You are in error and so learn and correct yourself.
Mohammad came 600 years (SIX HUNDRED YEARS) before Mohammad came !!! By then Christianity was very well established. Jesus was not only recongnised as Messaiah but as God, too!!! Comforter came to Apostles much much before Mohammad came.
Let me use Muslim style and ask you this: Did Mohammad EVER claimed that HE is the Comforter whome Jesus was talking about?
I have emailed a link for you to read which clearly proves that Mohammad cannot be the Comforter!!!
Right on brother. In other video blog, I have rebuked a muslim fanatic who resiliently claim that the promised Comforter is mohammed. I quoted him the verse that says "The Sin committed against the Holy Spirit is UNPARDONABLE"
I gave him the story of Ananias and Saphira as well as Herod. These people who claim mohammed is the comforter has somewhat committed the "unpardonable sin"
Can anyone tell me what the name of the doctor is and the name of the show please.
CheRev87 1 month ago
If u know rules of Arabic and how to read Arabic, bc of the rules, u can read it WITHOUT the "vowel" markings. And they said examination of the previous texts revealed no contradiction .. just replacement of order of chapters. #PeopleNeedToListenLol
highpower5 2 months ago
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I find it interesting that some muslims say the Yemeni quran just has textual variations from the popular one used. Like that makes it not a big difference. If it isn't different, but just textual variations, than make copies of it. Make millions of copies of it and pass it out to all the muslims. If there is no threat and fear from it, make millions and millions of copies of it and send it to all the muslims to replace the current one. Because it is only textual difference.
tomtomttom 6 months ago
false" prophet from yemen, LOL. another islamic long list of excuses
false prophet, from here, repeats THE false prophet from there, the tale of delusion, nay self hypnosis continues.
FACT quran is nothing but in eptly plaguerised, version of talmud, new/old testament, throw in a few older christian hynms ,(some word for word :-)
added violence/hate. there it is
face FACTS if you ever wonder, why the masses of enlightened people
find your delusion ridiculous, just read above
(hilarious)
secula4eva 7 months ago
Where has Dr. Puin pointed out alteration in the modern quran ? . As for the script is concerned, only the writing style is different with Dots like stuff indicating pronunciation . There is no difference in text. After all there is no proof that this copy was authenticated like the others by team of muslim scholars. The Muslim caliph had appointed a team of scholars, to collect the quran
TheThingsilove100 9 months ago
When are those researchers finally going to publish their findings? This has the potential to change a few things for the better.
Troul478 9 months ago
You people doesn't know any thing
Vebtronix 10 months ago
You people doesnt know any thing
Vebtronix 10 months ago
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zakuk77 1 year ago
A thorn in the side of Islamophobic bigots:
islamic - awareness . org
zakuk77 1 year ago
@zakuk77
If hating an evil religion makes me a bigot, then so be it.
Curveball 1 year ago
@Curveball - It's not nice to call Catholicism "evil".
zakuk77 1 year ago
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Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh was one of Muhammad's Quranic scribes and told Muhammad if he changed around what Muhammad recited it would sound better...and Muhammad agreed.
Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh, one of the earliest scribes of the Quran left Islam when he knew that if he could add or change words from Muhammad, then it does not come from Allah God.
When he left Islam, Muhammad ordered his killing, but later relented because of his powerful family.
00ismaeL001 1 year ago
"false" prophet from yemen, LOL....another corker from islams long list of excuses
false prophet, from here, repeats THE false prophet from there, the tale of delusion, nay self hypnosis continues.
FACT quran is nothing but in eptly plaguerised, version of talmud, new/old testament, throw in a few older christian hynms ,(some word for word :-)
added violence/hate. there it is
face facts, if you ever wonder, why the masses of enlightened people
find your delusion ridiculous, just read above
secula4eva 1 year ago
@secula4eva theres no hate in the quran dumbass! read it
dbaig187 11 months ago
@dbaig187 aww read this from the quran 002.216
ABDLH.YUSUF ALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
MsHisservant 1 week ago
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second he said defferent in the reading so what I know that and every muslims know that it is a fact that there is different in the reading but the meaninig is the same
and he said one word could have thirty different meaning so what every arabic speaker know that and the small boy know that it is our language and we can
recognize the meaning between the thirty meaning it is our fucken language do you understand
so your try to corrupt the quran failed
mmoo77aammaadd 1 year ago
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I am a muslim and I will answer every thing
he said there are differents in the writing so what if there are differents in the writting you will read in the same way every muslim know that when the islam started to spread all over the world the new muslims couldn't read the quran without mistakes so the muslims scientists invent the know writting which included the vowels and dots in the letter
mmoo77aammaadd 1 year ago
I found to copy of the original fax from Dr. Gerd R Puin with his signature sent to Dr. Muhammad Mustafa al-A'zami.
Please give me a link so i can send it to you brother.
Part of it says: "The important thing, thank God, is that these Yemeni Qur'anic fragments do not differ from those found in museums and libraries elsewhere, with the exception of details that do not touch the Qur'an itself, but are rather differences in the way words arc spelled."
Peace!
TrinityDesist 1 year ago
Linguistically, the word Qur'aan means the recited book. The Qur’aan was WRITTEN during the time of Prophet Mohammad, COMPILED during the time of the first Caliph Abu-Bakr, and COPIED during the time of the third Caliph Othman. Unlike any historical text, the Qur’aan was transmitted vocally and in writing as well; and, it was transferred through an entire generation - not just by a group - to its successors, until it reached the present generation, without any interval in this transference.
kennydeeedeee 1 year ago
Musailama Kazzab the false prophet from Yemen, the enemy of Prophet Mohammed wrote those scriptures, everyone knows that just ask any muslim..every muslim knows the existence of the false Koran..
bintyyy 1 year ago
All religions,prophets and Great God are fuckin' lies.. Wake up humankind..
theanswer84 1 year ago 2
its in the 8 th centry brother not the 7 th, no disrespect
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
Dear Religious people, stop calling each other liars. Lying and just mistaken are different. This scholar is just trying to solve a mystery because the objects don't seem to match the story. Get over it. Christians posting here are using this video to say that Islam is a mix of different ideas so it is wrong, listen to this. Newsflash, your bible is absolutely a mix of different texts, versions, ideas, from different times. Also, stop calling everyone "brother" you're trying too hard.
AnJoWo 1 year ago
Quran was just a 'copy-paste' collections of combined 2nd centurries apocrypal books and some Biblical verses which mohammad heard from his former Jews friends.
The fact that verses from Quran detailing how satan has dictated words to mohammed clearly proves us that Quran is nothing but just a tell-tale, Satan-inspired book by a false prophet and a madman.
JosephC38 1 year ago
@JosephC38 17:36 Do not accept anything that you have no knowledge of. Surely the hearing, the sight and the mind you are responsible for.
6:26 They repel others from this (Quran) as they themselves stay away from it, and thus, they only destroy themselves without perceiving.
atarijen 7 months ago
@JosephC38 hmm it looks like you were present when the satan dictated those isnt it and by the way it looks like you are a follower of satan so tell him stay away from me
nabzguitarist 5 months ago
@JosephC38 in the quran, it stated how people use to call the prophet a madman, and how they all ended up after that. and am not sure how satan tells us, to respect our parents feed the poor and pray directly to god(not in human form, and no need for a medium like a priest!) a teen and beat up another teen. at the time it clearly proves that he is a mighty one! however he is just an ignorant little kid. a clear fact for you. why is alcohol forbidden in islam. people die everyday from it!
rshadish 3 months ago
@rshadish mad mohammed is such a common term
forestinfullbloom 2 months ago
wow
outlawgsta 1 year ago
founder of izlam=moha MAD man=CRIMINAL.
teachtruth2U 1 year ago
I agree modern replications of the Qur'an should come without vowel markings, because the vowel markings put a human-defined (and often wrong) perspective on the verses. For example, one verse tells men to beat their wives if they fear she cheats. Without the vowel markings, the proper meaning to "separate from " your wives if you know she is cheating comes out. The interpretation is right as it falls in line with previous passive/nonviolent suggestions(separation is the last resort)
DEBROXDEBROX 1 year ago
It has been known forever that the original Qur'an lacks vowel markings. Regardless, most words have only one meaning that fits to the flow of a sentence. If there are two meanings, usually it is Allah displaying masterful duality.
Also, how does erasures in an old Qur'an mean anything? What if someone transcribing it merely made a mistake? Think deeply to the last pencil you bought: did it have an eraser? Yes, humans make mistakes.
DEBROXDEBROX 1 year ago
LIE LIES LIES LIES
AbuSalaam100 1 year ago
Busting the myths:
islamic-awareness . org / Quran
zakuk77 1 year ago
citacita..i wont laugh if i were you....I would you my brain a bit!
harley2010mu 2 years ago
all i can see is the change of arabic font.even thougt there were no dots and line..it is the same letter..
fufsayd 2 years ago
@fufsayd, The same letters wihtou any dots or lines as you call it, could have many different meanings.
seanamico 2 years ago
@seanamico no philosopher, the Arabic Language had evolute and there are difference between it before 1400 years ..
the Quran words haven't changed ,, the Arabic writing had !
Hkhhgrlv 1 year ago
@seanamico check this out to know more ,,
and type ( Arabic Language) in wiki and choose the language العربية .. u'll see picture of Evolution of early arabic calligraphy (9th - 11th century)..BTW the if the English translation for this article isn't full like the Arabic version
Hkhhgrlv 1 year ago
These Manuscripts were written by "Musailama Kazzab" the false prophet from Yemen
during the very life time of Muhammad
He was among the first false claimants to Prophecy.He appeared during the time of Prophet Muhammad and hisCompanions and caused numerous troubles among Muslims and had many followers. He eventually got killed in Al-Yamam battle, led by the first Caliph Abu Bakr.his wife, Sajah al-Kahenah, later reversed her position after her husband, Musailama, had been killed.
tarchichin 2 years ago 24
tarchichin
Sorry but if that was so don`t you think these scholars who know better than you would know this
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
You mean the bias commentators? No
body is disputing the time frame when
these manuscripts were written, the only
thing debatable is the writer of these manuscripts. I gave you a clue and now
do your research, if you are realy looking for the truth about these findings.but if the
purpose is just to malign a religion then stay with what ever you believe in.
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I would rather believe these scholars than a muslim who is the bias one. And i don`t have to do much to malign islam because muslims do that every day
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
Hey Liverladd, No, if you are a true student of history, then you go and look for answers, you don't start hatting and rejecting an idea simply because some so called scholar said so! and to your surprise, I some what agree with second part of your comment, that Muslims are doing a good job, maliging
Islam by not following the true teachings
of Islam prescribed in "Quran', what they are following are the man made rituals borrowed from Zoaristrians and Judio-Christians dogmas.
tarchichin 2 years ago 5
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Something tells me that you may well agree with me on muslims maligning islam but i bet not for the same reasons.
A question for you. You muslims believe that the bible and Jewish bible was corrupted so that is why the quran was given to the world and is not corrupted am i right?
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
@tarchichin how the fuck we can explain stupid people like him what this is
cutecrimnal143 1 year ago
Brothers!
The reason why Allah has sent ME is because he was very angry that Quran got corrupted. I bring the updated and corrected version of Allah's Holy Scripture. Unlike, pedophile Muhammad's scriptures, mine are fully documented in written form and free from any error!
Pedophile22 (PBUH) - The beloved prophet of Allah !
pedophile22 2 years ago
I my self have friends that have memorized the whole quran by heart and can recite from anywhere on request. Recently a competition was in which a line was read from anywhere in the Quran and rest continued part should be recited by the onewho had memorized it. They remember it sowell and they hardly mistake. So Quran being changed in the presence of these people is impossible. Even if you burn all the copies of quran in the world yet it would be recompiled easily by the memorizers.
peaceful661 2 years ago
anyone can write quran and make mistakes to it, but there are millions of quran which were written in a pure way and no mistakes at all, there are many memorizers of the quran who had memorize them in a pure and correct way. what a stupid documentary taking one quran for research just simply it was dated back to the 7th century...lol
citacitasejati 2 years ago
Without the "Vowels" the Quran is still understandable to the person who wrote it... Besides this video does not carry any weight because the tradition that has been followed since Muhammed's (saas) time till today where millions of Muslims all over the globe have memorized the Quran and know EVERY word is proof enough of the accuracy of the text... Same as the time of Muhammed (saas) when his faithful companions had compiled it from there memory... To know more visit my channel...
ssj5legend 2 years ago 3
Human error guarantees corruption
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
But divine intervention also guarantees authenticity... Besides there is tons of proof and historical evidence from NON-MUSLIM historians that can prove the authenticity of the Quranic text,
eg, "In the Quran we have beyond all reasonable doubt, exact words of Muhammad without subtraction and without addition"
(Bosworth Smith, Muhammad and Muhammadanism, p.22)
This is one of many quotations from those who have studied Islamic history and who are even some of the strongest critics of Islam...
ssj5legend 2 years ago
@ssj5legend could you please post some links to the historical proof from scholars outside of islam?
MsHisservant 1 week ago
As this copy would be only understandable to the natives only not the foreign muslims, it might have caused the confusion cuz IT IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE by the person who knew it by memory ONLY but not for some1 who was unfamiliar & all those who say Quran is not the word of God, you don't know the whole story about this so without thinking u attack Quran but have u ever thought of reading those early manuscripts like Topkapi Manuscript (late 722 CE/early 723) Samarkand Manuscript (890 CE)?
workoutjunkie 2 years ago
He clearly states that ( "The text was written so defectively that it can be read in a perfect way ONLY IF YOU HAVE A STRONG ORAL TRADITION." THE SA 'NA TEXT, JUST LIKE OTHER EARLY KORANS, WAS A GUIDE TO THOSE WHO KNEW IT ALREADY BY MEMORY, he says. THOSE THAT WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE KORAN WOULD READ IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THERE WERE NO DIACRITICAL & VOWEL SYMBOLS.) You getting the picture now? that's y it was buried cuz the non-native muslims wouldn't have understood it & might have altered it
workoutjunkie 2 years ago
Look! before attacking Islam use your head a bit. 1. Quran was recited at the time of our Prophet (P.B.U.H) and then written! ok? I guess everybody knew this so it was passed on even to some people who learned it in another dialect but was telling their people in their own dialect which might have caused some confusion so all right now I read Puin's interview in "The Guardian" published in 2000. I will copy what he said in the next comment as the space is not enough here.
workoutjunkie 2 years ago
the thing about earth as i,a humble insan, realized, facts for as what uve acclaimed,im pretty sure are assumptions at some point of some thing,
ProudSikhJatt, im not asking you to leave your faith ,thats your choice, if youre open enough,read an al-Qur'an.but only if youre open enough,
but what i dont get you asking me to stop living this 'lie',that youre so sure of,
i dont know, isnt that came from intimidations?
lamonteist 2 years ago
friend's uncle has proven al-Qur'an wasnt passed down word to word???
im impressed! he(or the group) must be hell of investigators to have proven,100% i presume,what wasnt orally passed down more1400 years ago!
and i bet u dont know as muslims we re to belief the uncorrupted BOOKS before al-Qur'an,what make u so sure that this yemeni book is Qur'an.
lamonteist 2 years ago 2
IM NOT ASKING ANYONE TO OPEN THEIR EYES/HEART TO ISLAM (only ALLAH can), ITS SIMPLY JUST,,---->PLEASE STOP HATING by just believing the media and STOP BLAMING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY just because the minority does something you dislike.
lamonteist 2 years ago
@lamonteist I believe you should stop lying to yourself first...look...the oldest Qu'ran has been investigated, i mean why are you lying this is pathetic, are you blind? you can't see? i have a friend whose uncle has done this investigation as well, and he was muslim now he left Islam, because it is proven with EVIDENCE that Qu'ran WAS NOT passed down word for word so please time to wake up and realize, dont live a lie..please?
ProudSikhJatt 2 years ago
--> while Most muslims revealing the truth,wonderfulness of ISLAM...The others TRYING suprisingly hard to deny it RATHER than revealing wonderfulness of their belief
-->You will HARDLY see,infact,ive NEVER seen a website where muslims just DEDICATE the whole site(despite the time they spent) on MAKING FUN other beliefs,why??? bcause we believe its BIG SINNN to make fun of other belief ! !
lamonteist 2 years ago
@lamonteist visit paltalk you will muslims making fun of other religions big time and what happens if you a muslim leave islam?
MsHisservant 1 week ago
Assalamualaikum,
-->why different ways of writing quran not important?bcause Quran MEANS to recite=its memorized,,have u ever wonder why EVERY muslims recite the same content while they can make versions of quran if they want?
-->why in arabic? bcause translations will cause more errors
-->AND why so many atheist/christians get so angry when the topic' is 'ISLAM' ? bcause they KNOW they re SO NEAR to the TRUTH that they just have to DENY it by facts(which constantly changing with time)
lamonteist 2 years ago 2
Dear brother,
It is not matter of just believing... the matter is knowing and believing the truth.
Your faith first needs to declare its scriptures as uncorrupted and others as corrupted. This way you can make any book inerrant scripture!!!
The Christian faith does not need to declare old scriptures as corrupted because it is continuation of the same message and truth from the SAME TRUE GOD !!!
Think over this basic before you reject truth of Jesus Christ !
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
I dont think i use word "transform" for God coming as Jesus Christ!!! God came as a human being not transformed as a human being.
When God visited Adam, Abraham, Jacob and other prohets, then you can say HE transformed into human being but not in case of Jesus.
We need to make educated presumption and build argument. A false presumption can be proved false easily but that does not prove anything!!!
PEACE...
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Salam and Peace of God be upon you, brother.
Thanks for sharing your views. I know I defended and explained my faith well and showed you ample support from the true Scripture which is the Bible.
The truth is shining bright and Jesus is calling you to receive to HIM as the Messiah, the Saviour ! Do not hesistate to msg me whenever you need to understand truth of Jesus.
I request you to search more about the truth of Jesus and I am sure God will help you.
God bless you and your family!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
The distinction of Son of Man is missed by you. That is why a word "person" is used. Unfortunately, you don't want to LEARN and explore how the "problem" suggested by you is explained and understood.
I can see your struggle but it is because you lack enough knowledge of Christianity. It is like I am trying to show you how 1+1=10 while you want to stick with decimal only!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
As i mentioned earlier, your arguments are based on false presumptions about Christianity. Jesus needed to balance between proving His disciples that HE is Son of God who is Son of Man. He cannot claim that HE is God and thus allow disciples to mistook Him as "another" God walking on earth. He carefully explained HE was Son of Man which HE was and enlightened them gradually to the fact that HE is Son of God.
If you read random verses from the Bible then it is hard for your to grasp truth.
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Jesus was sent by the Father and that is accepted by Christian. It is clear that you do not have true understanding of Christian faith and so you add your own interpretations to make "sense" of the Bible with biased beliefs thus you not only conclude wrong BUT your arguments do not pose any challenge to Christian faith. You think you made an argument/question but to christian it is pure fabrication which is not taught by Christians.
As i said before an di am repeating!!! Learn the BASICS !
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
It is wrong notion and belief of Muslims that all prophets were perfect. Islamic teaching NEEDS to glorify Mohammad and hide his errors and so they declared all the prophets as perfect and sinless. You are taught wrong but you believe it as right/truth, no wonder your scale is faulty and so your measure wrong!!!
Quran 34:50
"Say:If I err , I err because of my shortcomings, and if I am rightly guided it is due to the revelation I receive from my Lord"
Mohammad was not perfect!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
you have no understanding of Christianity and Jesus. God came as perfect MAN... there is nothing like transformation... it is not like angel visiting mankind...
Jesus kept the disciples focused on the God because HE as Son of Man was the prophet and the messenger.
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
:) Dear brother......
I already have thought a lot... Why don't you THINK and read the gospels in totality and understand the message and teachings of Jesus...
No one is quoting ONLY ONE VERSE to prove Jesus' deity.
Jesus' disciples, even today, brings healings in the NAME OF JESUS (not in allah or God)!!! So think hard why Jesus taught them to use HIS OWN NAME !!!
The truth of Jesus is not standing on one verse so do enough research and then understand Jesus' teaching to Philip.
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Yo ucannot kill my faith because i know the truth... You are not able to grasp the truth... it was YOU who could not understand the basic Christian faith from the beginning otherwise you would have asekd "how Jesus can be human and at the same time GOD"...
Dear brother, i am devastated by your ignorence... I am sorry to say but your blindlness is complete...
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Dear Brother, Jesus have to carefully explain to his followers that HE is GOD who is Creator and the body of man is in no way GOD !
All can SEE Jesus and knew HE was a human BUT the Spirit of Jesus was Spirit of God who is GOD HIMSELF.
you are stressing on the human body and jsut refuse to see beyond. No wonder you are blind and cannot see the truth!
Jesus as Son of Man teaches his disciples that HE is going to heaven where GOD, their God and His Father, is in HIS full glory!!!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me what the name of the doctor is and the name of the show please.
CheRev87 1 month ago
If u know rules of Arabic and how to read Arabic, bc of the rules, u can read it WITHOUT the "vowel" markings. And they said examination of the previous texts revealed no contradiction .. just replacement of order of chapters. #PeopleNeedToListenLol
highpower5 2 months ago
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I find it interesting that some muslims say the Yemeni quran just has textual variations from the popular one used. Like that makes it not a big difference. If it isn't different, but just textual variations, than make copies of it. Make millions of copies of it and pass it out to all the muslims. If there is no threat and fear from it, make millions and millions of copies of it and send it to all the muslims to replace the current one. Because it is only textual difference.
tomtomttom 6 months ago
false" prophet from yemen, LOL. another islamic long list of excuses
false prophet, from here, repeats THE false prophet from there, the tale of delusion, nay self hypnosis continues.
FACT quran is nothing but in eptly plaguerised, version of talmud, new/old testament, throw in a few older christian hynms ,(some word for word :-)
added violence/hate. there it is
face FACTS if you ever wonder, why the masses of enlightened people
find your delusion ridiculous, just read above
(hilarious)
secula4eva 7 months ago
Where has Dr. Puin pointed out alteration in the modern quran ? . As for the script is concerned, only the writing style is different with Dots like stuff indicating pronunciation . There is no difference in text. After all there is no proof that this copy was authenticated like the others by team of muslim scholars. The Muslim caliph had appointed a team of scholars, to collect the quran
TheThingsilove100 9 months ago
When are those researchers finally going to publish their findings? This has the potential to change a few things for the better.
Troul478 9 months ago
You people doesn't know any thing
Vebtronix 10 months ago
You people doesnt know any thing
Vebtronix 10 months ago
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Complete whitewash of christian theology:
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zakuk77 1 year ago
A thorn in the side of Islamophobic bigots:
islamic - awareness . org
zakuk77 1 year ago
@zakuk77
If hating an evil religion makes me a bigot, then so be it.
Curveball 1 year ago
@Curveball - It's not nice to call Catholicism "evil".
zakuk77 1 year ago
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Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh was one of Muhammad's Quranic scribes and told Muhammad if he changed around what Muhammad recited it would sound better...and Muhammad agreed.
Abdullah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi Sarh, one of the earliest scribes of the Quran left Islam when he knew that if he could add or change words from Muhammad, then it does not come from Allah God.
When he left Islam, Muhammad ordered his killing, but later relented because of his powerful family.
00ismaeL001 1 year ago
"false" prophet from yemen, LOL....another corker from islams long list of excuses
false prophet, from here, repeats THE false prophet from there, the tale of delusion, nay self hypnosis continues.
FACT quran is nothing but in eptly plaguerised, version of talmud, new/old testament, throw in a few older christian hynms ,(some word for word :-)
added violence/hate. there it is
face facts, if you ever wonder, why the masses of enlightened people
find your delusion ridiculous, just read above
secula4eva 1 year ago
@secula4eva theres no hate in the quran dumbass! read it
dbaig187 11 months ago
@dbaig187 aww read this from the quran 002.216
ABDLH.YUSUF ALI: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.
MsHisservant 1 week ago
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second he said defferent in the reading so what I know that and every muslims know that it is a fact that there is different in the reading but the meaninig is the same
and he said one word could have thirty different meaning so what every arabic speaker know that and the small boy know that it is our language and we can
recognize the meaning between the thirty meaning it is our fucken language do you understand
so your try to corrupt the quran failed
mmoo77aammaadd 1 year ago
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I am a muslim and I will answer every thing
he said there are differents in the writing so what if there are differents in the writting you will read in the same way every muslim know that when the islam started to spread all over the world the new muslims couldn't read the quran without mistakes so the muslims scientists invent the know writting which included the vowels and dots in the letter
mmoo77aammaadd 1 year ago
I found to copy of the original fax from Dr. Gerd R Puin with his signature sent to Dr. Muhammad Mustafa al-A'zami.
Please give me a link so i can send it to you brother.
Part of it says: "The important thing, thank God, is that these Yemeni Qur'anic fragments do not differ from those found in museums and libraries elsewhere, with the exception of details that do not touch the Qur'an itself, but are rather differences in the way words arc spelled."
Peace!
TrinityDesist 1 year ago
Linguistically, the word Qur'aan means the recited book. The Qur’aan was WRITTEN during the time of Prophet Mohammad, COMPILED during the time of the first Caliph Abu-Bakr, and COPIED during the time of the third Caliph Othman. Unlike any historical text, the Qur’aan was transmitted vocally and in writing as well; and, it was transferred through an entire generation - not just by a group - to its successors, until it reached the present generation, without any interval in this transference.
kennydeeedeee 1 year ago
Musailama Kazzab the false prophet from Yemen, the enemy of Prophet Mohammed wrote those scriptures, everyone knows that just ask any muslim..every muslim knows the existence of the false Koran..
bintyyy 1 year ago
All religions,prophets and Great God are fuckin' lies.. Wake up humankind..
theanswer84 1 year ago 2
its in the 8 th centry brother not the 7 th, no disrespect
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
Dear Religious people, stop calling each other liars. Lying and just mistaken are different. This scholar is just trying to solve a mystery because the objects don't seem to match the story. Get over it. Christians posting here are using this video to say that Islam is a mix of different ideas so it is wrong, listen to this. Newsflash, your bible is absolutely a mix of different texts, versions, ideas, from different times. Also, stop calling everyone "brother" you're trying too hard.
AnJoWo 1 year ago
Quran was just a 'copy-paste' collections of combined 2nd centurries apocrypal books and some Biblical verses which mohammad heard from his former Jews friends.
The fact that verses from Quran detailing how satan has dictated words to mohammed clearly proves us that Quran is nothing but just a tell-tale, Satan-inspired book by a false prophet and a madman.
JosephC38 1 year ago
@JosephC38 17:36 Do not accept anything that you have no knowledge of. Surely the hearing, the sight and the mind you are responsible for.
6:26 They repel others from this (Quran) as they themselves stay away from it, and thus, they only destroy themselves without perceiving.
atarijen 7 months ago
@JosephC38 hmm it looks like you were present when the satan dictated those isnt it and by the way it looks like you are a follower of satan so tell him stay away from me
nabzguitarist 5 months ago
@JosephC38 in the quran, it stated how people use to call the prophet a madman, and how they all ended up after that. and am not sure how satan tells us, to respect our parents feed the poor and pray directly to god(not in human form, and no need for a medium like a priest!) a teen and beat up another teen. at the time it clearly proves that he is a mighty one! however he is just an ignorant little kid. a clear fact for you. why is alcohol forbidden in islam. people die everyday from it!
rshadish 3 months ago
@rshadish mad mohammed is such a common term
forestinfullbloom 2 months ago
wow
outlawgsta 1 year ago
founder of izlam=moha MAD man=CRIMINAL.
teachtruth2U 1 year ago
I agree modern replications of the Qur'an should come without vowel markings, because the vowel markings put a human-defined (and often wrong) perspective on the verses. For example, one verse tells men to beat their wives if they fear she cheats. Without the vowel markings, the proper meaning to "separate from " your wives if you know she is cheating comes out. The interpretation is right as it falls in line with previous passive/nonviolent suggestions(separation is the last resort)
DEBROXDEBROX 1 year ago
It has been known forever that the original Qur'an lacks vowel markings. Regardless, most words have only one meaning that fits to the flow of a sentence. If there are two meanings, usually it is Allah displaying masterful duality.
Also, how does erasures in an old Qur'an mean anything? What if someone transcribing it merely made a mistake? Think deeply to the last pencil you bought: did it have an eraser? Yes, humans make mistakes.
DEBROXDEBROX 1 year ago
LIE LIES LIES LIES
AbuSalaam100 1 year ago
Busting the myths:
islamic-awareness . org / Quran
zakuk77 1 year ago
citacita..i wont laugh if i were you....I would you my brain a bit!
harley2010mu 2 years ago
all i can see is the change of arabic font.even thougt there were no dots and line..it is the same letter..
fufsayd 2 years ago
@fufsayd, The same letters wihtou any dots or lines as you call it, could have many different meanings.
seanamico 2 years ago
@seanamico no philosopher, the Arabic Language had evolute and there are difference between it before 1400 years ..
the Quran words haven't changed ,, the Arabic writing had !
Hkhhgrlv 1 year ago
@seanamico check this out to know more ,,
and type ( Arabic Language) in wiki and choose the language العربية .. u'll see picture of Evolution of early arabic calligraphy (9th - 11th century)..BTW the if the English translation for this article isn't full like the Arabic version
Hkhhgrlv 1 year ago
These Manuscripts were written by "Musailama Kazzab" the false prophet from Yemen
during the very life time of Muhammad
He was among the first false claimants to Prophecy.He appeared during the time of Prophet Muhammad and hisCompanions and caused numerous troubles among Muslims and had many followers. He eventually got killed in Al-Yamam battle, led by the first Caliph Abu Bakr.his wife, Sajah al-Kahenah, later reversed her position after her husband, Musailama, had been killed.
tarchichin 2 years ago 24
tarchichin
Sorry but if that was so don`t you think these scholars who know better than you would know this
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
You mean the bias commentators? No
body is disputing the time frame when
these manuscripts were written, the only
thing debatable is the writer of these manuscripts. I gave you a clue and now
do your research, if you are realy looking for the truth about these findings.but if the
purpose is just to malign a religion then stay with what ever you believe in.
nodaful 2 years ago 12
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I would rather believe these scholars than a muslim who is the bias one. And i don`t have to do much to malign islam because muslims do that every day
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
Hey Liverladd, No, if you are a true student of history, then you go and look for answers, you don't start hatting and rejecting an idea simply because some so called scholar said so! and to your surprise, I some what agree with second part of your comment, that Muslims are doing a good job, maliging
Islam by not following the true teachings
of Islam prescribed in "Quran', what they are following are the man made rituals borrowed from Zoaristrians and Judio-Christians dogmas.
tarchichin 2 years ago 5
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Something tells me that you may well agree with me on muslims maligning islam but i bet not for the same reasons.
A question for you. You muslims believe that the bible and Jewish bible was corrupted so that is why the quran was given to the world and is not corrupted am i right?
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
@tarchichin how the fuck we can explain stupid people like him what this is
cutecrimnal143 1 year ago
Brothers!
The reason why Allah has sent ME is because he was very angry that Quran got corrupted. I bring the updated and corrected version of Allah's Holy Scripture. Unlike, pedophile Muhammad's scriptures, mine are fully documented in written form and free from any error!
Pedophile22 (PBUH) - The beloved prophet of Allah !
pedophile22 2 years ago
I my self have friends that have memorized the whole quran by heart and can recite from anywhere on request. Recently a competition was in which a line was read from anywhere in the Quran and rest continued part should be recited by the onewho had memorized it. They remember it sowell and they hardly mistake. So Quran being changed in the presence of these people is impossible. Even if you burn all the copies of quran in the world yet it would be recompiled easily by the memorizers.
peaceful661 2 years ago
anyone can write quran and make mistakes to it, but there are millions of quran which were written in a pure way and no mistakes at all, there are many memorizers of the quran who had memorize them in a pure and correct way. what a stupid documentary taking one quran for research just simply it was dated back to the 7th century...lol
citacitasejati 2 years ago
Without the "Vowels" the Quran is still understandable to the person who wrote it... Besides this video does not carry any weight because the tradition that has been followed since Muhammed's (saas) time till today where millions of Muslims all over the globe have memorized the Quran and know EVERY word is proof enough of the accuracy of the text... Same as the time of Muhammed (saas) when his faithful companions had compiled it from there memory... To know more visit my channel...
ssj5legend 2 years ago 3
Human error guarantees corruption
LIVERLADD 2 years ago
But divine intervention also guarantees authenticity... Besides there is tons of proof and historical evidence from NON-MUSLIM historians that can prove the authenticity of the Quranic text,
eg, "In the Quran we have beyond all reasonable doubt, exact words of Muhammad without subtraction and without addition"
(Bosworth Smith, Muhammad and Muhammadanism, p.22)
This is one of many quotations from those who have studied Islamic history and who are even some of the strongest critics of Islam...
ssj5legend 2 years ago
@ssj5legend could you please post some links to the historical proof from scholars outside of islam?
MsHisservant 1 week ago
As this copy would be only understandable to the natives only not the foreign muslims, it might have caused the confusion cuz IT IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE by the person who knew it by memory ONLY but not for some1 who was unfamiliar & all those who say Quran is not the word of God, you don't know the whole story about this so without thinking u attack Quran but have u ever thought of reading those early manuscripts like Topkapi Manuscript (late 722 CE/early 723) Samarkand Manuscript (890 CE)?
workoutjunkie 2 years ago
He clearly states that ( "The text was written so defectively that it can be read in a perfect way ONLY IF YOU HAVE A STRONG ORAL TRADITION." THE SA 'NA TEXT, JUST LIKE OTHER EARLY KORANS, WAS A GUIDE TO THOSE WHO KNEW IT ALREADY BY MEMORY, he says. THOSE THAT WERE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE KORAN WOULD READ IT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THERE WERE NO DIACRITICAL & VOWEL SYMBOLS.) You getting the picture now? that's y it was buried cuz the non-native muslims wouldn't have understood it & might have altered it
workoutjunkie 2 years ago
Look! before attacking Islam use your head a bit. 1. Quran was recited at the time of our Prophet (P.B.U.H) and then written! ok? I guess everybody knew this so it was passed on even to some people who learned it in another dialect but was telling their people in their own dialect which might have caused some confusion so all right now I read Puin's interview in "The Guardian" published in 2000. I will copy what he said in the next comment as the space is not enough here.
workoutjunkie 2 years ago
the thing about earth as i,a humble insan, realized, facts for as what uve acclaimed,im pretty sure are assumptions at some point of some thing,
ProudSikhJatt, im not asking you to leave your faith ,thats your choice, if youre open enough,read an al-Qur'an.but only if youre open enough,
but what i dont get you asking me to stop living this 'lie',that youre so sure of,
i dont know, isnt that came from intimidations?
lamonteist 2 years ago
friend's uncle has proven al-Qur'an wasnt passed down word to word???
im impressed! he(or the group) must be hell of investigators to have proven,100% i presume,what wasnt orally passed down more1400 years ago!
and i bet u dont know as muslims we re to belief the uncorrupted BOOKS before al-Qur'an,what make u so sure that this yemeni book is Qur'an.
lamonteist 2 years ago 2
IM NOT ASKING ANYONE TO OPEN THEIR EYES/HEART TO ISLAM (only ALLAH can), ITS SIMPLY JUST,,---->PLEASE STOP HATING by just believing the media and STOP BLAMING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY just because the minority does something you dislike.
lamonteist 2 years ago
@lamonteist I believe you should stop lying to yourself first...look...the oldest Qu'ran has been investigated, i mean why are you lying this is pathetic, are you blind? you can't see? i have a friend whose uncle has done this investigation as well, and he was muslim now he left Islam, because it is proven with EVIDENCE that Qu'ran WAS NOT passed down word for word so please time to wake up and realize, dont live a lie..please?
ProudSikhJatt 2 years ago
--> while Most muslims revealing the truth,wonderfulness of ISLAM...The others TRYING suprisingly hard to deny it RATHER than revealing wonderfulness of their belief
-->You will HARDLY see,infact,ive NEVER seen a website where muslims just DEDICATE the whole site(despite the time they spent) on MAKING FUN other beliefs,why??? bcause we believe its BIG SINNN to make fun of other belief ! !
lamonteist 2 years ago
@lamonteist visit paltalk you will muslims making fun of other religions big time and what happens if you a muslim leave islam?
MsHisservant 1 week ago
Assalamualaikum,
-->why different ways of writing quran not important?bcause Quran MEANS to recite=its memorized,,have u ever wonder why EVERY muslims recite the same content while they can make versions of quran if they want?
-->why in arabic? bcause translations will cause more errors
-->AND why so many atheist/christians get so angry when the topic' is 'ISLAM' ? bcause they KNOW they re SO NEAR to the TRUTH that they just have to DENY it by facts(which constantly changing with time)
lamonteist 2 years ago 2
Dear brother,
It is not matter of just believing... the matter is knowing and believing the truth.
Your faith first needs to declare its scriptures as uncorrupted and others as corrupted. This way you can make any book inerrant scripture!!!
The Christian faith does not need to declare old scriptures as corrupted because it is continuation of the same message and truth from the SAME TRUE GOD !!!
Think over this basic before you reject truth of Jesus Christ !
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
I dont think i use word "transform" for God coming as Jesus Christ!!! God came as a human being not transformed as a human being.
When God visited Adam, Abraham, Jacob and other prohets, then you can say HE transformed into human being but not in case of Jesus.
We need to make educated presumption and build argument. A false presumption can be proved false easily but that does not prove anything!!!
PEACE...
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Salam and Peace of God be upon you, brother.
Thanks for sharing your views. I know I defended and explained my faith well and showed you ample support from the true Scripture which is the Bible.
The truth is shining bright and Jesus is calling you to receive to HIM as the Messiah, the Saviour ! Do not hesistate to msg me whenever you need to understand truth of Jesus.
I request you to search more about the truth of Jesus and I am sure God will help you.
God bless you and your family!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
The distinction of Son of Man is missed by you. That is why a word "person" is used. Unfortunately, you don't want to LEARN and explore how the "problem" suggested by you is explained and understood.
I can see your struggle but it is because you lack enough knowledge of Christianity. It is like I am trying to show you how 1+1=10 while you want to stick with decimal only!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
As i mentioned earlier, your arguments are based on false presumptions about Christianity. Jesus needed to balance between proving His disciples that HE is Son of God who is Son of Man. He cannot claim that HE is God and thus allow disciples to mistook Him as "another" God walking on earth. He carefully explained HE was Son of Man which HE was and enlightened them gradually to the fact that HE is Son of God.
If you read random verses from the Bible then it is hard for your to grasp truth.
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Jesus was sent by the Father and that is accepted by Christian. It is clear that you do not have true understanding of Christian faith and so you add your own interpretations to make "sense" of the Bible with biased beliefs thus you not only conclude wrong BUT your arguments do not pose any challenge to Christian faith. You think you made an argument/question but to christian it is pure fabrication which is not taught by Christians.
As i said before an di am repeating!!! Learn the BASICS !
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
It is wrong notion and belief of Muslims that all prophets were perfect. Islamic teaching NEEDS to glorify Mohammad and hide his errors and so they declared all the prophets as perfect and sinless. You are taught wrong but you believe it as right/truth, no wonder your scale is faulty and so your measure wrong!!!
Quran 34:50
"Say:If I err , I err because of my shortcomings, and if I am rightly guided it is due to the revelation I receive from my Lord"
Mohammad was not perfect!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
you have no understanding of Christianity and Jesus. God came as perfect MAN... there is nothing like transformation... it is not like angel visiting mankind...
Jesus kept the disciples focused on the God because HE as Son of Man was the prophet and the messenger.
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
:) Dear brother......
I already have thought a lot... Why don't you THINK and read the gospels in totality and understand the message and teachings of Jesus...
No one is quoting ONLY ONE VERSE to prove Jesus' deity.
Jesus' disciples, even today, brings healings in the NAME OF JESUS (not in allah or God)!!! So think hard why Jesus taught them to use HIS OWN NAME !!!
The truth of Jesus is not standing on one verse so do enough research and then understand Jesus' teaching to Philip.
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Yo ucannot kill my faith because i know the truth... You are not able to grasp the truth... it was YOU who could not understand the basic Christian faith from the beginning otherwise you would have asekd "how Jesus can be human and at the same time GOD"...
Dear brother, i am devastated by your ignorence... I am sorry to say but your blindlness is complete...
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Dear Brother, Jesus have to carefully explain to his followers that HE is GOD who is Creator and the body of man is in no way GOD !
All can SEE Jesus and knew HE was a human BUT the Spirit of Jesus was Spirit of God who is GOD HIMSELF.
you are stressing on the human body and jsut refuse to see beyond. No wonder you are blind and cannot see the truth!
Jesus as Son of Man teaches his disciples that HE is going to heaven where GOD, their God and His Father, is in HIS full glory!!!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
I had sent you email with link to BASIC CHRISTIANITY... it is clear that you don't want to learn the basics brother.
If someone say Muslims are worshipping black stone of ka'aba just like Hindus who also make circles around their idols, then you will ask that person to LEARN !!!
Sameway, i request you to first learn the basic Christianity. Jesus is believed to be a perfect MAN who is Emmanuel. Being a human, Jesus didnt exceed the human-limits even though he could!!!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
No one has seen the Father but the SON... The God in HIS full glory was known to Jesus alone.
Those who have seen Jesus had seen God who is Emmanuel (God with us).
You went extra length to misinterprete the obvious. Your "solution" represents confusion.
PEACE
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Dear Brother, it seems you need some help in understanding the basic.
So first, do you want to believe that GOD was directly SPEAKING to Jesus?
Please note that these means God can directly speak to anyone. GOD spoke directly to Moses and Jesus BUT NOT WITH MOHAMMAD but that is other story.
SO just reply to my question. It will help me to guage you and so i will reply accordingly. Thanks...
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
there were many translations and versions of the koran shortly after the death of mohammed - history has proven this
kamajiboy 2 years ago
so the yemini koran proves that the quran in place today is a fraud and not the words of allah or mohammed and that the quran today is merely a misguided translation of the origional....interesting stuff
kamajiboy 2 years ago
@kamajiboy
Yes brother. you are absolutely right. it's not even the word of allah. allah can't speak. it is just a piece of celestial rock, a black stone that fell from outer space.
Nobody from mohammed's early follower can prove that an angel spoke to him because nobody witnessed it or heard it. And nobody would dare to ask for fear of losing their heads. Unlike Biblical prophets, other people or prophets bears witness to others writing.
JosephC38 1 year ago
@kamajiboy
Yes brother. you are absolutely right. it's not even the word of allah. allah can't speak. it is just a piece of celestial rock, a black stone that fell from outer space.
Nobody from mohammed's early follower can prove that an angel spoke to him because nobody witnessed it or heard it. And nobody would dare to ask for fear of losing their heads. Unlike Biblical prophets, other people or prophets bears witness to others writing.
JosephC38 1 year ago
Why do you want to stick with one verse alone? The same Jesus who said "I am servant of God" is the one who said "I and God are one" "Whosoever had seen me, he had seen the Father" "I give eternal life" "I am the resurrection and life". In the name of JESUS, disciples can HEAL !
Wake up brother... and stop being emotional. You are in error and so learn and correct yourself.
PEACE !!!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
Mohammad came 600 years (SIX HUNDRED YEARS) before Mohammad came !!! By then Christianity was very well established. Jesus was not only recongnised as Messaiah but as God, too!!! Comforter came to Apostles much much before Mohammad came.
Let me use Muslim style and ask you this: Did Mohammad EVER claimed that HE is the Comforter whome Jesus was talking about?
I have emailed a link for you to read which clearly proves that Mohammad cannot be the Comforter!!!
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
There is no prophet after JEsus. Don't be emotional BUT be truthful. I can also warn you for calling my God Jesus as a mere man !!!
Muslims are foolishly find their roots in the bible. Comforter can NEVER be Mohammad !!! Read everything about the Comforter JEsus promised !!!
Brother, don't keep double standards! Do you know Sahih Bukhari Hadith were collected 200 years after Mohammmad?
Bible was complete and in circulation within first century and truth was verified by eye witnesses
truthofjesus4all 2 years ago
@truthofjesus4all
Right on brother. In other video blog, I have rebuked a muslim fanatic who resiliently claim that the promised Comforter is mohammed. I quoted him the verse that says "The Sin committed against the Holy Spirit is UNPARDONABLE"
I gave him the story of Ananias and Saphira as well as Herod. These people who claim mohammed is the comforter has somewhat committed the "unpardonable sin"
JosephC38 1 year ago