Ok you can't just say that mono is shit and then say to get 20-30 pound test or higher, it all depends on what your fishing for, if your going for crappie you need around 4 lb test and bass 10 is good its all on the fish and type of rod..
Who ARE you?? What did you miss about getting out and fishing in 30 seconds?? If you already have 20 different lines then you are too late. Your mistake not mine. For people who haven't a clue about fishing let alone can name a fish ... you should have viewed my videos LONG ago!
What would you suggest I do with my mono when I am fishing for trout? 30lb test for a 14inch trout? that is overkill. or 30lb test for a Bluegill...You made a good point but you didnt explain who your audience should be. LIke, hey if you are fishing for catfish get 30lb test.
Nope, I have yet to find a professional/guide -- with lots of beginners -- NOT using braid. Beginner? Sure, stick him with line memory, stretch, short life, knot slippage, low strength @ diameter ... I bought 150yds of Stealth for $12 @ Walmart -- enough for TWO rods (if you use mono for backing!) -- hardly a ball-breaker
@30secfisherman Braid knots slip really easy so you have to leave a good amount of tag. Fluoro knots dont slip and as long as the knot is tied well it will be fine... also who the fuck would use 20lb+ mono or fluoro for standard techniques? People flip, pitch, and punch with 20lb.... dumbass. Learn something about fishing before trying to inform people. Your just going to fuck their skill up.
@Ryan0Ebbers I watched this video and I laugh so hard when he tossed the Mono away. At least he's not telling lies. Hahaha! If you're cheap and you just want something for your kids to fish by the shore. Yeah, Mono is a great choice.
Thank you! As a red-blooded Amurikan, I may not agree with readers/watchers, but I'll defend their right to their insufferablly incompetent opinions that bore the rest of us out of our seats ...
Since my site is obviously geared to beginners, you must be catching bluegills. A beginner has an offshore trip as a bucket list item One is fishing mono then because it is the only line clunky enough to put up with the abrasion of reefs and wrecks.
Didfferent fishermen have different experiences. As you know, line is only one factor in fishing (or catching) success. You are sharing your experience and I, for one, follow your advice where spin casting is concerned. I have watched you fish and I know your passion and skill. I recommend that viewers who follow your teaching will be rewarded...but mono has obviously worked well for some people and they are simply sharing that with you and your viewers. It's great that you give them the chance.
I have several shimano spinning reels, FX models..they have plastic spools. And they came on rods with plastic eyelets, a $30 combo from walmart. They were my beginner rods, just as you're talking about. You didn't address any of my other points. For the beginner, who is cost conscious (if for no other reason than they don't/won't fish often, or may not like fishing at all), and would want the most versatile and hassle free product, mono still wins.
I don't know why line has become the most provocative subject I address. Every fishing guide I know recommends braid. One even said -- after the number of comments I receive on mono --, that some people just won't get with the program, that some people just won't try something new.
Fine, you have 7 rods. I am addressing beginners, someone who wouldn't know a spin rod from a baitcaster, who buy ONE spool. Put it on a Shimano combo. Don't respool the Barbie or Yogi Bear spincast reel. kISS.
love my braided line use powerpro 80lb line with 50lb mono leader for river fishing for blue cats. But love my 8lb mono for pond and lake fishing for channel up to 15 lbs use dough bait with no weight and nothing can outcast my 8lb mono with no weight.
Flourocarbon is too simply stiff for anything other than leader material. It's main advantage being lack of visibility, leader is its best purpose anyway. Mono, especially modern polymer mono, is stronger than ever, limp, easy to cast and if the knot is tied properly, rarely slips. It's significantly cheaper than braids or flouro, and for best all around general use, is by far the best line for beginners and advanced anglers alike.
Braid is bad for reels with plastic spools, or rods with plastic guides (you know, the kind beginners usually start with?), it bites into the plastic, causing grooves that diminish casting distance and damage the reel, rod and the line itself. Braid is also a hazard anywhere you may hang up in cover or on rocks. It can not be broken off at the rig as with mono and typically must be cut at the rod tip, leaving a long trail of line in the water. Braid is highly visible as well.
@KrysNolatari PLASTIC?? I am not respooling braid on a Bartbie spincast kit, Think Shimano -- $30. If I get a break it is on the fluoro leader -- not the braid. The purpose of 50lb braid is NOT to hang up -- certainly as much as any other line. Visibility is over-sold; most fly line is neon orange or green.
hears what i think mono is for fishing every where good all round line floro is a good leader but you really need to buy good quality line also braid if good for if you don't have ANY obstacles that it could rub against
Me also. I've been using mono all my life and never had any problems with it. 12-17lb test mono with a palomar or improved clinch knot, that's all you need. Fluorocarbon would be my next, then braided. To me, braided is overrated and expensive, plus it's very visible to the fish. My best advice for all fisherman is, "stick to what you know works." You don't need to go out there and buy the most expensive line thinking it'll work better.
With stretch, memory, lowest strength per diameter, knot slippage, mono is the LAST line I would recommend a beginner. the easiest line is braid and the easiest knot to tie is the Palomar. Perfect combination.
mono floats n flouro sinks n fish can c braid and it messes up ur rods eyes and the reel where teh line comes in. ur not goint to use floro with topwater baits cuz it sinks and mono is cheaper
Stealth and probably some others are not going to screw up eyes. If you need a floating line (which is kinda rare w/ LMB ...) mono is the only line left. Who needs line to float if you are walking the dog?
i dont use thoes lures. im talking about frogs, popers, chatters, buzz baits etc. its a whol lot cheaper to n it it gets tangleed its easyer to pop and as long as u have bend in the rod you wont pop it
@Sleytownmafia i will agree witht tht i really dnt like braid anymore it digs into the spool way to much and when i use it there isnt any give to the fish so when you cast you dnt hit the fish rite away the fish can fell the line tenstiona nd no mono is getting so abrsive resistant tht i is almost as strong a floro
Then you'd like fly-fishing. The basic setup is backing, line (weight-forward, floating), leader, and tippet. Lots of knots to go wrong and they are all different! BTW Braid and fluoro sink, mono floats.
My overfull baitcast with 30# braid cost less than $15 for 150 yards. Where are you paying $500? Tiffany's?
Braid excellent for spinning most still set up for mono. Stiff carbon rods, work well for stretchy mono, not so well for braid. Smart people started to buy up rugged old glass rods or better still, rare carbon/boron rods from the early nineties that builders stop making because they didn't break like fragile carbon. Reels too are a problem, fixed spools = knot city, high end multipliers, the mag breaks are still set up for mono diameters
Surprisingly, the water does not matter. The emphasis is on the cheapest way to fish a lot, which usually means bank fishing and casting. Braid is not indestructible, so 150lb mono in salt water might be more appropriate. I have fished salt/fresh with braid + fluoro and caught fish. I lost a fish on mono break-off ...
these videos are so vague what kind of fishing ru talking about saltwater or fresh can u be more specific what kind of fish ive been fishing for a very long time and have had no problems with any of these kind or lines...???
vanish is a peice of crap. get the trilene 100% fuoro. fluoro has VERY bad memory and llok at the old day they used the shittiest mono and still cought tons of fish. i still have alot of spools full of good ol trilene xt or sensation. i like braid with a fuoro leader tho. more sensative. but im sure you can say one good thing about mono... it has caught more fish than any other line!
fluro sucks man. vanish is brittle but its good when u want to respool every week. trilene xt or xl is great(mono) i like braid to but not good for begginers
wow, I seem to get a LOT of comments on line! I would have expected stuff on lures, rods, reels, but had no idea line was such an emotional issue! I have had no problem with fluoro as leader, and am removing it from all reels as line, because the memory is worse than I thought. "Brittle" sounds like the reels are left in the sun a lot ...
I like braid cos it means i can fish with just a couple of spools of line but nylon mono has advantages: abrasion restiance, novices find stretch useful, good quality mono has better tangle resistance than average quality braid.
Flurocarbon, it isn't invisible in water, it's, slippy 50-65% knot strength. It's advantage is that light from the surface doesn't make it glow like transparent mono but high memory make it a poor mainline for fixed spools.
I have seen other youtubers with 150lb mono doing best on abrasion tests, but that's a long way to go. I am teaching beginners/intermediates, so different preferences are going to exist.
I have yet to have my Spiderwire (Stealth) or Vanish slip a knot. More often it breaks below the knot -- and I am using just an overhand knot to rig to my snaps.
For the money, I still have a problem recommending mono; it's just too unfriendly -- & I am noticing this more on my fly-fishing 3X tippets.
Can't say anything good about mono? How many years has mono been around? How many fish have been caught on mono? What did you start out fishing? Braid and mono all have their special uses in certain circumstances.
Why not keep going? More fish have been caught on cotton or hemp, particularly, for thousands of years. Would I recommend something just out of habit, or better, tradition? If you want to fish like a Polynesian, then use their tackle -- complete with bone circle hooks.
Special uses? My constituency does not carry multiple spools or reels -- just one. For their $10, I will recommend braid full stop.
If it is price, might as well get string. Stretch has no appeal, because you have the equivalent "give" in the rod tip. Why do guides recommend braid? No memory, easy to tie (& hold!) knots, and, of course, no stretch, better feel.
Ok you can't just say that mono is shit and then say to get 20-30 pound test or higher, it all depends on what your fishing for, if your going for crappie you need around 4 lb test and bass 10 is good its all on the fish and type of rod..
dennislogston 8 months ago
wow...... Really?! come to the midwest and ill outfish ya with my mono lol
Wiperfisherman01 8 months ago
Who ARE you?? What did you miss about getting out and fishing in 30 seconds?? If you already have 20 different lines then you are too late. Your mistake not mine. For people who haven't a clue about fishing let alone can name a fish ... you should have viewed my videos LONG ago!
30secfisherman 11 months ago
What would you suggest I do with my mono when I am fishing for trout? 30lb test for a 14inch trout? that is overkill. or 30lb test for a Bluegill...You made a good point but you didnt explain who your audience should be. LIke, hey if you are fishing for catfish get 30lb test.
HOPSING08 11 months ago
Nope, I have yet to find a professional/guide -- with lots of beginners -- NOT using braid. Beginner? Sure, stick him with line memory, stretch, short life, knot slippage, low strength @ diameter ... I bought 150yds of Stealth for $12 @ Walmart -- enough for TWO rods (if you use mono for backing!) -- hardly a ball-breaker
30secfisherman 1 year ago
@30secfisherman Braid knots slip really easy so you have to leave a good amount of tag. Fluoro knots dont slip and as long as the knot is tied well it will be fine... also who the fuck would use 20lb+ mono or fluoro for standard techniques? People flip, pitch, and punch with 20lb.... dumbass. Learn something about fishing before trying to inform people. Your just going to fuck their skill up.
Ryan0Ebbers 7 months ago
@Ryan0Ebbers I watched this video and I laugh so hard when he tossed the Mono away. At least he's not telling lies. Hahaha! If you're cheap and you just want something for your kids to fish by the shore. Yeah, Mono is a great choice.
Moe7133 7 months ago
Thank you! As a red-blooded Amurikan, I may not agree with readers/watchers, but I'll defend their right to their insufferablly incompetent opinions that bore the rest of us out of our seats ...
30secfisherman 1 year ago
Hoo-hum,booooring! and so totally unsubtly wrong.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
Since my site is obviously geared to beginners, you must be catching bluegills. A beginner has an offshore trip as a bucket list item One is fishing mono then because it is the only line clunky enough to put up with the abrasion of reefs and wrecks.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
This guy does not know anything about fishing each line has a purpose.
Beardies24 1 year ago
Didfferent fishermen have different experiences. As you know, line is only one factor in fishing (or catching) success. You are sharing your experience and I, for one, follow your advice where spin casting is concerned. I have watched you fish and I know your passion and skill. I recommend that viewers who follow your teaching will be rewarded...but mono has obviously worked well for some people and they are simply sharing that with you and your viewers. It's great that you give them the chance.
csclapp 1 year ago
I have several shimano spinning reels, FX models..they have plastic spools. And they came on rods with plastic eyelets, a $30 combo from walmart. They were my beginner rods, just as you're talking about. You didn't address any of my other points. For the beginner, who is cost conscious (if for no other reason than they don't/won't fish often, or may not like fishing at all), and would want the most versatile and hassle free product, mono still wins.
KrysNolatari 1 year ago
I don't know why line has become the most provocative subject I address. Every fishing guide I know recommends braid. One even said -- after the number of comments I receive on mono --, that some people just won't get with the program, that some people just won't try something new.
Fine, you have 7 rods. I am addressing beginners, someone who wouldn't know a spin rod from a baitcaster, who buy ONE spool. Put it on a Shimano combo. Don't respool the Barbie or Yogi Bear spincast reel. kISS.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
love my braided line use powerpro 80lb line with 50lb mono leader for river fishing for blue cats. But love my 8lb mono for pond and lake fishing for channel up to 15 lbs use dough bait with no weight and nothing can outcast my 8lb mono with no weight.
hooah7962 1 year ago
there is a place for all kinds of line, even mono. it all depends on what your fishing for and where
fishinfreddy1 1 year ago
Flourocarbon is too simply stiff for anything other than leader material. It's main advantage being lack of visibility, leader is its best purpose anyway. Mono, especially modern polymer mono, is stronger than ever, limp, easy to cast and if the knot is tied properly, rarely slips. It's significantly cheaper than braids or flouro, and for best all around general use, is by far the best line for beginners and advanced anglers alike.
KrysNolatari 1 year ago
Braid is bad for reels with plastic spools, or rods with plastic guides (you know, the kind beginners usually start with?), it bites into the plastic, causing grooves that diminish casting distance and damage the reel, rod and the line itself. Braid is also a hazard anywhere you may hang up in cover or on rocks. It can not be broken off at the rig as with mono and typically must be cut at the rod tip, leaving a long trail of line in the water. Braid is highly visible as well.
KrysNolatari 1 year ago
@KrysNolatari PLASTIC?? I am not respooling braid on a Bartbie spincast kit, Think Shimano -- $30. If I get a break it is on the fluoro leader -- not the braid. The purpose of 50lb braid is NOT to hang up -- certainly as much as any other line. Visibility is over-sold; most fly line is neon orange or green.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
hears what i think mono is for fishing every where good all round line floro is a good leader but you really need to buy good quality line also braid if good for if you don't have ANY obstacles that it could rub against
SuperXmichaelx 1 year ago
fluorocarbon not recommended for spinning reels...
noahfb1 1 year ago
i was under the impression that flourocarbon has more stretch than mono
kissboy1234 1 year ago
whoa, NO! no stretch.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
I recommend a super thin mono about 15 pound test, the stretch helps for rocky fishing
TomJackson986 1 year ago
Me also. I've been using mono all my life and never had any problems with it. 12-17lb test mono with a palomar or improved clinch knot, that's all you need. Fluorocarbon would be my next, then braided. To me, braided is overrated and expensive, plus it's very visible to the fish. My best advice for all fisherman is, "stick to what you know works." You don't need to go out there and buy the most expensive line thinking it'll work better.
66SiK 1 year ago
With stretch, memory, lowest strength per diameter, knot slippage, mono is the LAST line I would recommend a beginner. the easiest line is braid and the easiest knot to tie is the Palomar. Perfect combination.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
this video is true in most parts, although mono can be very good in some occasions:
for beginners, good all around line, topwater. And it is cheap plus you can use it for everything
drummer5o 1 year ago 3
biased much???
bwoodcracker 1 year ago
uh, did say that ... also the heavier the line (ie, tensile strength) the more it will float. Kind of counter-intuitive.
30secfisherman 1 year ago
Can't say anything good about mono? Maybe say that it does not sink and therefore's better for topwater...
patryklucarz 1 year ago
spiderwire steth is the best brait ever though i must say. id rather braid for somthing like catfishing
Sleytownmafia 2 years ago
I use it & it's suited me so far, but now there is an FX braid, which looks interesting.
30secfisherman 2 years ago
mono floats n flouro sinks n fish can c braid and it messes up ur rods eyes and the reel where teh line comes in. ur not goint to use floro with topwater baits cuz it sinks and mono is cheaper
Sleytownmafia 2 years ago
Stealth and probably some others are not going to screw up eyes. If you need a floating line (which is kinda rare w/ LMB ...) mono is the only line left. Who needs line to float if you are walking the dog?
30secfisherman 2 years ago
i dont use thoes lures. im talking about frogs, popers, chatters, buzz baits etc. its a whol lot cheaper to n it it gets tangleed its easyer to pop and as long as u have bend in the rod you wont pop it
Sleytownmafia 2 years ago
Use a mono leader -- 2-3'. No diff from a fly fisherman using tippet.
30secfisherman 2 years ago
@Sleytownmafia i will agree witht tht i really dnt like braid anymore it digs into the spool way to much and when i use it there isnt any give to the fish so when you cast you dnt hit the fish rite away the fish can fell the line tenstiona nd no mono is getting so abrsive resistant tht i is almost as strong a floro
tmakidd0703 1 year ago
"nothing good to say about mono". wow someone is on unrestricted budget. how about price/length thats good enough reason for most non-pro anglers.
I use amixture of all 3 in fact simply because braid has such a small diameter and spooling a full reel will cost me 500 bucks or more.
i go with 15lb mono for 60% of the reel.
then 15lb braid for the rest of the reel.
I have a 2meters of fluorocarbon leaders.
fonitrus 2 years ago
Then you'd like fly-fishing. The basic setup is backing, line (weight-forward, floating), leader, and tippet. Lots of knots to go wrong and they are all different! BTW Braid and fluoro sink, mono floats.
My overfull baitcast with 30# braid cost less than $15 for 150 yards. Where are you paying $500? Tiffany's?
30secfisherman 2 years ago
wow.monofilement is fine and 30 and 20 pound test is un needed i know people who catch 7 pound fish with 4 pound mono
gunshow261 2 years ago
Sure and they catch trees, logs, rocks, sunken vessels, other people's cheap rigs. 4lb mono? That's part of the problem -- trash everywhere.
30secfisherman 2 years ago
im not saying to use 4 pound mono but mono is good if u have the right pound test.
gunshow261 2 years ago
i caught a 21 lb catfish on 6 lb power pro line =) and i kept my hand on the line so i made a bigger risk of snapping it.
randomclam8ownz 2 years ago
I'm still going to stick with the good old mono
cattrax320 3 years ago 8
amen brother
csaboy27 2 years ago
yup me to. i hate braid with a passion I have tried a few braids but quickly go back to good ole ande!!!
mbmako19 2 years ago
i know what your saying,,can't beat mono. fluro is shity in my opinion to
cattrax320 2 years ago
can i use flurocarbon in dirty water?
TheFishingGuy1 3 years ago
Don't know why not. I have used it in heavily tannin- stained water. Didn't catch in fish tho, as I recall.
Don't know what you mean by "dirty"? Toxic I would not fish period!
30secfisherman 3 years ago
Braid excellent for spinning most still set up for mono. Stiff carbon rods, work well for stretchy mono, not so well for braid. Smart people started to buy up rugged old glass rods or better still, rare carbon/boron rods from the early nineties that builders stop making because they didn't break like fragile carbon. Reels too are a problem, fixed spools = knot city, high end multipliers, the mag breaks are still set up for mono diameters
KnockoffNigeI 3 years ago
he kinda sounds like larry dalhberg...is he larry dalhberg?
hmoobxi0ng 3 years ago
Surprisingly, the water does not matter. The emphasis is on the cheapest way to fish a lot, which usually means bank fishing and casting. Braid is not indestructible, so 150lb mono in salt water might be more appropriate. I have fished salt/fresh with braid + fluoro and caught fish. I lost a fish on mono break-off ...
30secfisherman 3 years ago
these videos are so vague what kind of fishing ru talking about saltwater or fresh can u be more specific what kind of fish ive been fishing for a very long time and have had no problems with any of these kind or lines...???
kissboy1234 3 years ago
what knot do you use for spiderwire stealth?
smeegwin 3 years ago
palomar. I have had problems with [improved] clinch, but almost never with palomar (see my video how to tie knot)
30secfisherman 3 years ago
vanish is a peice of crap. get the trilene 100% fuoro. fluoro has VERY bad memory and llok at the old day they used the shittiest mono and still cought tons of fish. i still have alot of spools full of good ol trilene xt or sensation. i like braid with a fuoro leader tho. more sensative. but im sure you can say one good thing about mono... it has caught more fish than any other line!
patrickscott16 3 years ago
fluro sucks man. vanish is brittle but its good when u want to respool every week. trilene xt or xl is great(mono) i like braid to but not good for begginers
patrickscott16 3 years ago
wow, I seem to get a LOT of comments on line! I would have expected stuff on lures, rods, reels, but had no idea line was such an emotional issue! I have had no problem with fluoro as leader, and am removing it from all reels as line, because the memory is worse than I thought. "Brittle" sounds like the reels are left in the sun a lot ...
30secfisherman 3 years ago
I like braid cos it means i can fish with just a couple of spools of line but nylon mono has advantages: abrasion restiance, novices find stretch useful, good quality mono has better tangle resistance than average quality braid.
Flurocarbon, it isn't invisible in water, it's, slippy 50-65% knot strength. It's advantage is that light from the surface doesn't make it glow like transparent mono but high memory make it a poor mainline for fixed spools.
spudasaurus 3 years ago
I have seen other youtubers with 150lb mono doing best on abrasion tests, but that's a long way to go. I am teaching beginners/intermediates, so different preferences are going to exist.
I have yet to have my Spiderwire (Stealth) or Vanish slip a knot. More often it breaks below the knot -- and I am using just an overhand knot to rig to my snaps.
For the money, I still have a problem recommending mono; it's just too unfriendly -- & I am noticing this more on my fly-fishing 3X tippets.
30secfisherman 3 years ago
Can't say anything good about mono? How many years has mono been around? How many fish have been caught on mono? What did you start out fishing? Braid and mono all have their special uses in certain circumstances.
JupiterSailfish 3 years ago
Why not keep going? More fish have been caught on cotton or hemp, particularly, for thousands of years. Would I recommend something just out of habit, or better, tradition? If you want to fish like a Polynesian, then use their tackle -- complete with bone circle hooks.
Special uses? My constituency does not carry multiple spools or reels -- just one. For their $10, I will recommend braid full stop.
30secfisherman 3 years ago
If it is price, might as well get string. Stretch has no appeal, because you have the equivalent "give" in the rod tip. Why do guides recommend braid? No memory, easy to tie (& hold!) knots, and, of course, no stretch, better feel.
30secfisherman 4 years ago
Can't say anything good about mono? What about price? The stretch of mono is useful in a lot of situations.
UnbeknownstThing 4 years ago