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Again, risk vs. reward is very high (high risk/low reward). In this case, barefoot on a sticky surface doing spins could damage the knee here if a mistep occurs. I would not recommend this one either.
@jalidav1 people (even experts) like to make up drills to appear creative. This is NOT a move I recommend to any of my clients...if you want to do it, go ahead but please tell me what the benefits of this might be. Unless you are an olympic hammer thrower, how could this movement possibly be relevant to a regular training program?? Think in terms of how exercises apply to movement patterns that you actually use! My money is on that
@MachoMadness This movement is designed for practitioners of Judo in particular, it emphasises the feeling of corkscrewing the feet into the floor and also improves balance and strengthens the ligaments and tendons in the knees, ankles, hips and also strengthens core muscles.
@jalidav1 corkscrewing with weight is not an exercise the general public should even attempt to try. Again, this is not something I would recommend to my clients. If you can't see why then injuries are in your near future. Knees are not designed for rotational movement. Loading weight and corkscrewing on a sticky surface beyond dangerous. Risk vs. Reward. There are many ways to improve balance and strength without using heavy weight. This SHOULD be common sense but I guess not.
@MachoMadness there is no proof to suggest that a movement like this would cause damage to the knees, in my oppinion executing this movement safely and slowly as steve is demonstrating would, if anything stretch and strengthen the ligaments around the knees, you have to understand that our bodies evolve and adapt to the pressures we put them under, as long as there is a correct warm up and people aren't jumping in cold, any movement can be beneficial.
@jalidav1 once again..."corkscrewing" into a sticky mat barefoot is not what I would recommend to any client of mine. There is an element of risk involved with this move and it is not the best way to strengthen any ligaments. Perform at your own risk.
@jalidav1 steve cotter's results are his own. This stuff may work for him and he may be able to avoid injury. Just because he is doing it, doesn't make it effective either. My point is that this is not a good drill for the general public. Period.
@MachoMadness he's also referencing grappling with an opponent, as far as I know the general public is not training in order to grapple or fight with anyone. He seems to be targeting more serious athletes who participate in full contact sports.
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1) The same is true with an opponent? I've never had an opponent who was a small kettlebell shaped man who danced across the floor with me like in Beauty and the Beast. How is this sports specific? (which is what I'm sure you were trying to imply).
2) What is it with you and kettle bells? Were you traumatized as a child by a kettle bell and now you're obsessed with carrying them around everywhere? A dumbbell would work just as good.
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3) Oh and Dances with Kettlebells, if you're training for wrestling, wouldn't it be smarter to spend time on exercises that provided enough stress on the target muscles to actually cause adaptation to imposed demands? I mean, unless you really ARE planning on fighting a 20 pound kettlebell shaped person.
1] the inertia he is dialing up and damping down IS the point, as when you are grappling you are in effect dancing with an uncooperative partner. he did say that the movement is challenging and training the capacity to 'screw' into the ground.
isn't this the kettlebell dvd for martial artists? Then all the points below about the general public are moot...Steve is DA MAN!!!!
rclaypool 1 year ago
me and cotter used to sell shoes for coke in baltimore!!!!
iwasbornspecial 2 years ago
looks like it would be a good drill for judo since they use a lot of the same footwork for their throws.
SakoYo 3 years ago
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Again, risk vs. reward is very high (high risk/low reward). In this case, barefoot on a sticky surface doing spins could damage the knee here if a mistep occurs. I would not recommend this one either.
MachoMadness 3 years ago
@MachoMadness hmmmmm who should we listen to? A nobody, or a worldwide recognized expert.......my money is on the expert
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 people (even experts) like to make up drills to appear creative. This is NOT a move I recommend to any of my clients...if you want to do it, go ahead but please tell me what the benefits of this might be. Unless you are an olympic hammer thrower, how could this movement possibly be relevant to a regular training program?? Think in terms of how exercises apply to movement patterns that you actually use! My money is on that
MachoMadness 1 year ago
@MachoMadness This movement is designed for practitioners of Judo in particular, it emphasises the feeling of corkscrewing the feet into the floor and also improves balance and strengthens the ligaments and tendons in the knees, ankles, hips and also strengthens core muscles.
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 corkscrewing with weight is not an exercise the general public should even attempt to try. Again, this is not something I would recommend to my clients. If you can't see why then injuries are in your near future. Knees are not designed for rotational movement. Loading weight and corkscrewing on a sticky surface beyond dangerous. Risk vs. Reward. There are many ways to improve balance and strength without using heavy weight. This SHOULD be common sense but I guess not.
MachoMadness 1 year ago
@MachoMadness there is no proof to suggest that a movement like this would cause damage to the knees, in my oppinion executing this movement safely and slowly as steve is demonstrating would, if anything stretch and strengthen the ligaments around the knees, you have to understand that our bodies evolve and adapt to the pressures we put them under, as long as there is a correct warm up and people aren't jumping in cold, any movement can be beneficial.
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 once again..."corkscrewing" into a sticky mat barefoot is not what I would recommend to any client of mine. There is an element of risk involved with this move and it is not the best way to strengthen any ligaments. Perform at your own risk.
MachoMadness 1 year ago
@MachoMadness in all fairness, steve cotters results speak for themselves
jalidav1 1 year ago
@jalidav1 steve cotter's results are his own. This stuff may work for him and he may be able to avoid injury. Just because he is doing it, doesn't make it effective either. My point is that this is not a good drill for the general public. Period.
MachoMadness 1 year ago
@MachoMadness he's also referencing grappling with an opponent, as far as I know the general public is not training in order to grapple or fight with anyone. He seems to be targeting more serious athletes who participate in full contact sports.
SFO14 1 year ago
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1) The same is true with an opponent? I've never had an opponent who was a small kettlebell shaped man who danced across the floor with me like in Beauty and the Beast. How is this sports specific? (which is what I'm sure you were trying to imply).
2) What is it with you and kettle bells? Were you traumatized as a child by a kettle bell and now you're obsessed with carrying them around everywhere? A dumbbell would work just as good.
KaseyAkira2 4 years ago
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3) Oh and Dances with Kettlebells, if you're training for wrestling, wouldn't it be smarter to spend time on exercises that provided enough stress on the target muscles to actually cause adaptation to imposed demands? I mean, unless you really ARE planning on fighting a 20 pound kettlebell shaped person.
KaseyAkira2 4 years ago
1] the inertia he is dialing up and damping down IS the point, as when you are grappling you are in effect dancing with an uncooperative partner. he did say that the movement is challenging and training the capacity to 'screw' into the ground.
androydnyc 4 years ago 2
nice
sebastianbrosche 4 years ago
great
wiparata 5 years ago