What happens if they get some really obese dude that is named Bubba, and weighs like 500 lbs? Do they really have boxes that big to put em in? Just wonderin?
Okay, so you are probably wondering WHY I would refuse to pay for my sisters funeral IF she died? Well, she has been abusive to me since the day I was born, both physically and mentally, and time does NOT heal all wounds! I have NO responsibility to pay to bury her IF something were to happen to her! She is as worthless as tits on a bull!! I really do hate her!!
So, lets say that someone dies, and had NO life insurance, and the only living relative makes like 200 dollars a month(disability), and is on food stamps, WHO is responsible to pay for the funeral? Then what? Do they really expect the surviving relative to come up with the money? Is there some law that says the surviving relative HAS to pay? Pay, or WHAT, they will dig up the dead person? Seriously, I need an answer to this. Ain't NO way I would pay for my sisters funeral! I hate her!
@Pober135 it isn't usually known as a morgue, which generally refers to a room in the hospital where bodies are held for autopsy or until the FD picks them up In the funeral home, it is generally referred to as simply "the embalming room", or sometimes the "preparation room"
Why do they issue a "lifetime" gaurantee on a casket when the dead person is already dead? I heard that groundwater leaks into the casket, and that the bodies end up floating in the ground water,even though they are in a vault. Why are funerals so expensive, and what if the dead person has no life insurance? How is a family expected to pay for a funeral if they cant afford it. Is it the relatives responsibility to
@Wellington5392 although the average cost of a funeral and final disposition appears to be high, in comparison with other life events, it really is not a wedding for example usually costs far more, but no one complains about that cost because it is a "happy" occasion. Simple dignified funeral services can be arranged for far less, and every FD I know is willing to help any family with limited means.
@kidkong584 embalmers may also work in a medical examiner's office, pathology labs, medical or mortuary schools; and with the rise of giant corporate "death care" companies, embalmers may work in a centralized "preparation center" where they never meet the families of those they care for
If i was a funeral director, I'd treat each of the deceased with respect as if they were one of my own because if that was me on the other end I'd want to be treated with the same respect and dignity!!!!
@Champ675 Our primary, unofficial "motto" is "Reverence for the Dead".
Almost every funeral director / embalmer treats each deceased person as if they were a close relative to ensure a dignified service to both the dead and the living mourners.
It's a hell of a profession, but seeing how families are relieved when you help them through such a tough time is worth it.
Embalming also treats edema. When legs are swelled up by edema or hands with out embalming these swelled legs are going to pop open leaking fluids all over the clothing and casket exposing the public to body fluids. embalming drys out edema causing the swelling to go down soaking up the water retention. embalming drys out the body and in todays society people arent healthy. embalming ensures against leaks ect. the smallest pin hole in a body can ruin the entire casket.
work in a job that deals with people you know people are hard to deal with. There is so much more we do but Id be writting pages. Basically the biggest part of the work is done when you step foot in a funeral home for a funeral. All you see is every thing looking nice and the funeral director dressed up looking nice. Its easy to sit back and think we dont earn our living.
Do you know what its like to track down a doctor to get them to sign a death certificate? Its a nightmare at times. Dealing with these asshole doctors. and the family needs those death certificates to close out estates ect ect. we do all that make all the calls, fill out the death certificate drive it to the doctors office pick it up take it to the health department. We notify social security of a death. File for veterens. Its dealing with people during a loss and planning an event. If you ever
This is aside from all the other things we do aside from the body itself. We are basically "EVENT" planners aswell. during a funeral cars need parked people need directed. Otherwise its caos. When you just lost your mother or father or child most people dont want the burden of coordinating all this. We deal with all the flowers that people send. We do all the running back and forth getting death certificates certified and filed. the hard work is done come funeral time.
Unembalmed bodies are gross to be honest. Tissue gas, skin slip, putrifaction, brain purge, stomach purge ect is treated by embalming. It is a protection against gases building during a viewing and the widow getting a mouth full of stomach purge as she kisses her husband one last time. with out embalming so much could happen in a moments notice. Unembalmed bodies can in the blink of an eye start spewing out stomach contents, blood ect. Organ donors? embalming prevents them from soaking the caske
under the care of hospice or a 350lb man that had a heart attack coming down the stairs. Once back to the funeral home we begin the embalming immediatly if a public viewing is the families wish. This ensures that the public will not be exposed to microbes and or disease because many people touch and kiss the deceased. Embalming also flushes the body cleansing from within out. Flushing out blood discolorations especially in the face if a body had been lying face down due to the blood settling
a short run down of what we do. We work and are on call 24hrs a day 7 days a week. We work holidays, including xmas, birthdays, your sons ball game you name it. We can be called upon at any hour of the day or night. we may have just worked 3 funerals during the day and two visitations that night getting home at 10 oclock that night only to be awaken again at 3am to go to a house to remove the body of a dpressed father how put a shot gun to his head. or simply a grandfather who died at home
took the time to write me said this " I wanted to take the time to thank you from the bottom of my heart for turning what should have been a very bad day in to a much brighter day. Thank you for the work you did and the kindness you showed me. It meant so much to see walter looking so peaceful" This is what I work for. This is what funeral directing is.
@k3ith26 that is the most rewarding part of this profession, to me when a family we have served takes the time to thank us for our efforts, or points out some small, and to us ordinary service, that to them, in their grief appears to be a monumental kindness, I love that! and, that moment when a wife or mother or son first sees their loved one in the casket, and you can tell they are tense and afraid, and when they walk up to look upon our best work, they just sigh and relax, and begin to heal
@edmac333 Why are funerals so expensive? WHO is responsible to pay for a funeral if the dead person had no family, or IF the only living relative is poor, and has NO money? What then? What if there is NO life insurance to cover the fees?? Then what? How do people afford a funeral, I mean really, who can come up with 7 to 10k immediately? I hope my family dont expect me to pay for a funeral, or cremation, cause that aint gonna happen!
well unfortunantly the public dosent understand what it is we do. I just reacently got a letter sent to me and a card from a widow whose husband I embalmed and burried. I embalmed him, dressed him in a suit and tie paying close attention to the tiniest of detail. I drove her in the hearse with her dead husband 50 miles away to a small cemetery in southern Indiana and there had an open casket viewing. With tears in her eyes she looked at me and said "He looks so peaceful" In the letter that she
i dunno im very interested in embalming and all i dont find it sick or freakish i find it interesting and a way too deal with the dead for burial ........ its not living off of corpses are you nutts thats very low
I have already agreed to donate my body to medical science, and after medical students are done with me, they will cremate what's left. My daughter said, "Daddy, (she is 33) what should I do with your ashes?" I said, send them to the land fill :-)
Just drop me into a hole and forget about spending big money on me for an expensive casket or even a cremation service. Take the difference in money saved on funeral arrangements and have a party for me in memory of the good times we had together and pretend that I'm having a cold beer with you. That's the way I want it done! If the gov't thinks that I owe them some money, make sure there's nothing left of my estate for these parasites to get their hands on! Give away everything before you die!
emblaming does a number of things that most lay people are unware of. 1 it delays decomposition. this is important because some families may have family out of town ect. Its not uncommon for some one to die on a monday and be shown friday. It is also important because all dead bodies are not the same. with all the medications people are on and health issues. Different conditions and ways a person dies have great effect on how rapidly the begin to decompose.
@roaringwaterbay Anatomy? Hello? Is that not science? Not to mention the several other science courses you need to take in order to become a mortician. As for art, cosmetology happens to be just that. Art. Like jtognazzi said, try doing it yourself. It can take a toll on you and can be emotionally draining. Why don't you think about this.. having to prepare a friend or family member for their funeral. How would you hold up? I can guarantee you it would not be an easy task. Asshole.
@roaringwaterbay actually, it is one of man's oldest sciences, going back thousands of years; as for art, well the next time you know someone who has died in a violent car crash or put a gun in their mouth, and then you see them at the funeral, you tell me if that is an art or not!
@edmac333 you mean it's a science like putting cucumbers in vinegar? if you want to be an artist there are better avenues to follow than corpses. just my opinion of course.
@roaringwaterbay the chemistry is considerably more complicated than pickling, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, many hold similar ones to yours; I don't think however there is any more rewarding artistry than to be able to show a mother her child after some awful violence has been done to her, or he has been the victim of some tragic and disfiguring accident; some people find closure from within, and some find it's beginning at a viewing, that is very rewarding to me!
@roaringwaterbay You obviously have never witnessed an embalming.
Embalming fluid fixes tissues and temporarily preserves the body so that the mourners can view the deceased for the last time and say goodbye in a dignified manner. There is absolutely a scientific and artistic balance to each case.
The emotional reward from families being able to say goodbye after a tragedy is amazing.
hahahaha some of the comments are crack up! Whoop whoop I will pass my practical exam in three weeks time for my diploma in embalming! wish me luck or disencourage me if you like:)
@slityourthroat31 no I should be cremated directly. I would really like my ashes to be spread across the Atlantic ocean from the sky. Fuck, I don't want to become a dead rotting corpse in some random cemetery with a bunch of other dead people.
I want to directly become part of the earth again . But whose to I say I'm only 16 lol
It's really amazing they can fix or repair the deceased if they were in a accident murder and Etc it's really cool when you think about it because before you had wounds no doctor could fix and so i am glad they're abel to shed some light on this topic
Very well done. I like this video. It's formal, real, respectful and true! Being a funeral director it's a vocation, a passion. It's people who loves people, who takes care of every details and for sure, are so close to life and death where it makes all the sense!
how are you both? An embalmer works in a funeral homes doing embalming and other prep of the body, and a pathologist does post mortem exams....so how do you do both, they are completely different jobs? Are you a doctor? And note how i spelt pathologist correctly twice. PS-I am an ACTUAL funeral director
i appreciete the embalmers because this job is not common you need very strong physical strength and strong stomach too,very rare people can do this so give respect to them!!!
the average an embalmer can make can be anywhere between 30,000-75,000 dollars a year. It depends on the location of the funeral home, and how many funerals they do a year. the busier the funeral home, the more you'll probably make. managers can make upwards of 80,000 a year.
HAHA...Obviously that's not in Texas. I have been a dual license (Funeral Director and Embalmer) for eleven years, management for 5. Unless you work for an independent firm, or are waaaaay up the corporate ladder, you can expect to make any where from $25k-$47. Independents pay more due to the lack of fluff management they have to pay.
@jtognazzi He's just trolling.
WhoIsCarla 4 months ago
@WhoIsCarla roaringwaterbay, that is.
WhoIsCarla 4 months ago
@SHAWN119100 They probably stitch it back up.
bungafrost 5 months ago
This is one field where people are dying to meet you.
crystalpcullen 8 months ago
What happens if they get some really obese dude that is named Bubba, and weighs like 500 lbs? Do they really have boxes that big to put em in? Just wonderin?
Wellington5392 9 months ago
Okay, so you are probably wondering WHY I would refuse to pay for my sisters funeral IF she died? Well, she has been abusive to me since the day I was born, both physically and mentally, and time does NOT heal all wounds! I have NO responsibility to pay to bury her IF something were to happen to her! She is as worthless as tits on a bull!! I really do hate her!!
Wellington5392 9 months ago
So, lets say that someone dies, and had NO life insurance, and the only living relative makes like 200 dollars a month(disability), and is on food stamps, WHO is responsible to pay for the funeral? Then what? Do they really expect the surviving relative to come up with the money? Is there some law that says the surviving relative HAS to pay? Pay, or WHAT, they will dig up the dead person? Seriously, I need an answer to this. Ain't NO way I would pay for my sisters funeral! I hate her!
Wellington5392 9 months ago
@Pober135 it isn't usually known as a morgue, which generally refers to a room in the hospital where bodies are held for autopsy or until the FD picks them up In the funeral home, it is generally referred to as simply "the embalming room", or sometimes the "preparation room"
edmac333 9 months ago
@Pober135 it's not generally called a morgue; most often simply known as the embalming room or the preparation room
edmac333 9 months ago
Why do they issue a "lifetime" gaurantee on a casket when the dead person is already dead? I heard that groundwater leaks into the casket, and that the bodies end up floating in the ground water,even though they are in a vault. Why are funerals so expensive, and what if the dead person has no life insurance? How is a family expected to pay for a funeral if they cant afford it. Is it the relatives responsibility to
Wellington5392 9 months ago
@Wellington5392 although the average cost of a funeral and final disposition appears to be high, in comparison with other life events, it really is not a wedding for example usually costs far more, but no one complains about that cost because it is a "happy" occasion. Simple dignified funeral services can be arranged for far less, and every FD I know is willing to help any family with limited means.
edmac333 9 months ago
"Embalmers usually work in funeral homes." Seriously, where else is a freaking embalmer going to work? McDonald's?
kidkong584 9 months ago
@kidkong584 embalmers may also work in a medical examiner's office, pathology labs, medical or mortuary schools; and with the rise of giant corporate "death care" companies, embalmers may work in a centralized "preparation center" where they never meet the families of those they care for
edmac333 9 months ago
@edmac333 ohhh. ok.
kidkong584 9 months ago
@kidkong584 I think they learn how to embalm hamburgers first! haha!
Wellington5392 9 months ago
@Wellington5392 lol
kidkong584 9 months ago
one hell of a job!
CrazyNative4 1 year ago
If i was a funeral director, I'd treat each of the deceased with respect as if they were one of my own because if that was me on the other end I'd want to be treated with the same respect and dignity!!!!
Champ675 1 year ago 8
@Champ675 Our primary, unofficial "motto" is "Reverence for the Dead".
Almost every funeral director / embalmer treats each deceased person as if they were a close relative to ensure a dignified service to both the dead and the living mourners.
It's a hell of a profession, but seeing how families are relieved when you help them through such a tough time is worth it.
Rayven10 4 months ago
Embalming also treats edema. When legs are swelled up by edema or hands with out embalming these swelled legs are going to pop open leaking fluids all over the clothing and casket exposing the public to body fluids. embalming drys out edema causing the swelling to go down soaking up the water retention. embalming drys out the body and in todays society people arent healthy. embalming ensures against leaks ect. the smallest pin hole in a body can ruin the entire casket.
k3ith26 1 year ago
work in a job that deals with people you know people are hard to deal with. There is so much more we do but Id be writting pages. Basically the biggest part of the work is done when you step foot in a funeral home for a funeral. All you see is every thing looking nice and the funeral director dressed up looking nice. Its easy to sit back and think we dont earn our living.
k3ith26 1 year ago
Do you know what its like to track down a doctor to get them to sign a death certificate? Its a nightmare at times. Dealing with these asshole doctors. and the family needs those death certificates to close out estates ect ect. we do all that make all the calls, fill out the death certificate drive it to the doctors office pick it up take it to the health department. We notify social security of a death. File for veterens. Its dealing with people during a loss and planning an event. If you ever
k3ith26 1 year ago
This is aside from all the other things we do aside from the body itself. We are basically "EVENT" planners aswell. during a funeral cars need parked people need directed. Otherwise its caos. When you just lost your mother or father or child most people dont want the burden of coordinating all this. We deal with all the flowers that people send. We do all the running back and forth getting death certificates certified and filed. the hard work is done come funeral time.
k3ith26 1 year ago
Unembalmed bodies are gross to be honest. Tissue gas, skin slip, putrifaction, brain purge, stomach purge ect is treated by embalming. It is a protection against gases building during a viewing and the widow getting a mouth full of stomach purge as she kisses her husband one last time. with out embalming so much could happen in a moments notice. Unembalmed bodies can in the blink of an eye start spewing out stomach contents, blood ect. Organ donors? embalming prevents them from soaking the caske
k3ith26 1 year ago
under the care of hospice or a 350lb man that had a heart attack coming down the stairs. Once back to the funeral home we begin the embalming immediatly if a public viewing is the families wish. This ensures that the public will not be exposed to microbes and or disease because many people touch and kiss the deceased. Embalming also flushes the body cleansing from within out. Flushing out blood discolorations especially in the face if a body had been lying face down due to the blood settling
k3ith26 1 year ago
a short run down of what we do. We work and are on call 24hrs a day 7 days a week. We work holidays, including xmas, birthdays, your sons ball game you name it. We can be called upon at any hour of the day or night. we may have just worked 3 funerals during the day and two visitations that night getting home at 10 oclock that night only to be awaken again at 3am to go to a house to remove the body of a dpressed father how put a shot gun to his head. or simply a grandfather who died at home
k3ith26 1 year ago
took the time to write me said this " I wanted to take the time to thank you from the bottom of my heart for turning what should have been a very bad day in to a much brighter day. Thank you for the work you did and the kindness you showed me. It meant so much to see walter looking so peaceful" This is what I work for. This is what funeral directing is.
k3ith26 1 year ago 2
@k3ith26 that is the most rewarding part of this profession, to me when a family we have served takes the time to thank us for our efforts, or points out some small, and to us ordinary service, that to them, in their grief appears to be a monumental kindness, I love that! and, that moment when a wife or mother or son first sees their loved one in the casket, and you can tell they are tense and afraid, and when they walk up to look upon our best work, they just sigh and relax, and begin to heal
edmac333 1 year ago
@edmac333 Why are funerals so expensive? WHO is responsible to pay for a funeral if the dead person had no family, or IF the only living relative is poor, and has NO money? What then? What if there is NO life insurance to cover the fees?? Then what? How do people afford a funeral, I mean really, who can come up with 7 to 10k immediately? I hope my family dont expect me to pay for a funeral, or cremation, cause that aint gonna happen!
Wellington5392 9 months ago
well unfortunantly the public dosent understand what it is we do. I just reacently got a letter sent to me and a card from a widow whose husband I embalmed and burried. I embalmed him, dressed him in a suit and tie paying close attention to the tiniest of detail. I drove her in the hearse with her dead husband 50 miles away to a small cemetery in southern Indiana and there had an open casket viewing. With tears in her eyes she looked at me and said "He looks so peaceful" In the letter that she
k3ith26 1 year ago
i dunno im very interested in embalming and all i dont find it sick or freakish i find it interesting and a way too deal with the dead for burial ........ its not living off of corpses are you nutts thats very low
AbbeyDawn1000 1 year ago
I have already agreed to donate my body to medical science, and after medical students are done with me, they will cremate what's left. My daughter said, "Daddy, (she is 33) what should I do with your ashes?" I said, send them to the land fill :-)
bluecollarboiler 1 year ago
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kackem 1 year ago
Just drop me into a hole and forget about spending big money on me for an expensive casket or even a cremation service. Take the difference in money saved on funeral arrangements and have a party for me in memory of the good times we had together and pretend that I'm having a cold beer with you. That's the way I want it done! If the gov't thinks that I owe them some money, make sure there's nothing left of my estate for these parasites to get their hands on! Give away everything before you die!
MegaTmarshall 1 year ago
@jtognazzi your exactly right i work at a funeral home as well, people dont understand what exactly we do, and living off corpses? hes one weird dude
BadNewsUSHRA 1 year ago
@greenooze1500 yes
k3ith26 1 year ago
emblaming does a number of things that most lay people are unware of. 1 it delays decomposition. this is important because some families may have family out of town ect. Its not uncommon for some one to die on a monday and be shown friday. It is also important because all dead bodies are not the same. with all the medications people are on and health issues. Different conditions and ways a person dies have great effect on how rapidly the begin to decompose.
k3ith26 1 year ago
it's not a science or an art. it's a few sick bastards living off corpses and praying on the living.
roaringwaterbay 1 year ago
@roaringwaterbay Would you rather clean and dress your mom,dad,brother etc ??? Respect what these people do you fucking moron.
jeedo31 1 year ago
@roaringwaterbay Anatomy? Hello? Is that not science? Not to mention the several other science courses you need to take in order to become a mortician. As for art, cosmetology happens to be just that. Art. Like jtognazzi said, try doing it yourself. It can take a toll on you and can be emotionally draining. Why don't you think about this.. having to prepare a friend or family member for their funeral. How would you hold up? I can guarantee you it would not be an easy task. Asshole.
omgmissrazrblade 1 year ago
@roaringwaterbay actually, it is one of man's oldest sciences, going back thousands of years; as for art, well the next time you know someone who has died in a violent car crash or put a gun in their mouth, and then you see them at the funeral, you tell me if that is an art or not!
edmac333 9 months ago
@edmac333 you mean it's a science like putting cucumbers in vinegar? if you want to be an artist there are better avenues to follow than corpses. just my opinion of course.
roaringwaterbay 9 months ago
@roaringwaterbay the chemistry is considerably more complicated than pickling, and everyone is entitled to their opinions, many hold similar ones to yours; I don't think however there is any more rewarding artistry than to be able to show a mother her child after some awful violence has been done to her, or he has been the victim of some tragic and disfiguring accident; some people find closure from within, and some find it's beginning at a viewing, that is very rewarding to me!
edmac333 9 months ago
@roaringwaterbay You obviously have never witnessed an embalming.
Embalming fluid fixes tissues and temporarily preserves the body so that the mourners can view the deceased for the last time and say goodbye in a dignified manner. There is absolutely a scientific and artistic balance to each case.
The emotional reward from families being able to say goodbye after a tragedy is amazing.
Rayven10 4 months ago
Embalmers should just be morticians, since morticians do all of that
cockesmastro 2 years ago
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ilikedeadstuff 2 years ago
How long do you have too go too school too be a embalmer?
ThePuppetgirl12 2 years ago
about 18 months..im in skool now
chlonn2cute4u 2 years ago
hahahaha some of the comments are crack up! Whoop whoop I will pass my practical exam in three weeks time for my diploma in embalming! wish me luck or disencourage me if you like:)
kine6 2 years ago 3
i think I would rather be cremated
r1oot 2 years ago 2
F.Y.I before you get cremated you should be embalmed first lol
slityourthroat31 1 year ago
@slityourthroat31 no I should be cremated directly. I would really like my ashes to be spread across the Atlantic ocean from the sky. Fuck, I don't want to become a dead rotting corpse in some random cemetery with a bunch of other dead people.
I want to directly become part of the earth again . But whose to I say I'm only 16 lol
r1oot 1 year ago
that is a bit scary to see
babymermaid1 2 years ago
Get on google or yahoo and search for Frontline- "The Unertaking" PBS. this is an excelent documentary of the funeral industry
k3ith26 3 years ago
It's really amazing they can fix or repair the deceased if they were in a accident murder and Etc it's really cool when you think about it because before you had wounds no doctor could fix and so i am glad they're abel to shed some light on this topic
MelMovieLover2018 3 years ago
How long does it takes an embalming process?
Cuajinice 3 years ago
Couple hours. Three, maybe four I think.
darkyoda 3 years ago
3 to 5 hours if there is no problem.
Victoria37 2 years ago
Physical strength?Gimme a break!Women have long been in this business!
Victoria37 3 years ago
They said nothing about women in this video....What are you talking about ?
moody1722 2 years ago
Read my comment.They do say that it takes physical strength tough and it doesn t take that much.
Victoria37 2 years ago
Very well done. I like this video. It's formal, real, respectful and true! Being a funeral director it's a vocation, a passion. It's people who loves people, who takes care of every details and for sure, are so close to life and death where it makes all the sense!
Mitchel Fortin
Mortici75 3 years ago
how are you both? An embalmer works in a funeral homes doing embalming and other prep of the body, and a pathologist does post mortem exams....so how do you do both, they are completely different jobs? Are you a doctor? And note how i spelt pathologist correctly twice. PS-I am an ACTUAL funeral director
funeraldirector1987 3 years ago
My father owns his own funeral home. It's pretty freaky stuff.
Baltimora1957 3 years ago
i appreciete the embalmers because this job is not common you need very strong physical strength and strong stomach too,very rare people can do this so give respect to them!!!
Vivaldithugs 3 years ago
how much money can you make being an enmbalmer?
BABBYGORILLA73 3 years ago
it depends on where you are in the world....do you live in the states?
funeraldirector1987 3 years ago
yes
BABBYGORILLA73 3 years ago
the average an embalmer can make can be anywhere between 30,000-75,000 dollars a year. It depends on the location of the funeral home, and how many funerals they do a year. the busier the funeral home, the more you'll probably make. managers can make upwards of 80,000 a year.
funeraldirector1987 3 years ago
THANKS FOR THR INFO!
BABBYGORILLA73 3 years ago
it's what I do :)
funeraldirector1987 3 years ago
HAHA...Obviously that's not in Texas. I have been a dual license (Funeral Director and Embalmer) for eleven years, management for 5. Unless you work for an independent firm, or are waaaaay up the corporate ladder, you can expect to make any where from $25k-$47. Independents pay more due to the lack of fluff management they have to pay.
jameswillhelm 3 years ago 2
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enigma800 3 years ago 2
SURE you are. If you're going to pretend to be something you're not, at least learn how to spell it correctly: PATHOLOGIST
enigma800 3 years ago 2
o god he made a MISTAKE dumb ass fuck i hate people like you
nirvanainbloom12 3 years ago
boring tell us something we dont know.
waste of time video.
WINDHAMMAN 3 years ago 5