Green energy -Newton was wrong granted, all who show machines with no plans =fake all who have plans and (of course) no machine = fake. This one below has video, math in description and all specs measured in front of you in the film and no money it is free information all on the video and a 16 year old could build it youtube.com/watch?v=jEwzalCFdKw
McCarthy certainly looked uncomfortable. He has been quoted as saying that there will be a public demo before end of 2009 so lets hope that he doesn't have to make another apology like this!
If the amount of energy they extract per interaction is very small then bad bearings very well could destroy any OU... maybe these new ZeroF bearings will help?
Sadly, nothing has ever become of Sean McCarthy's research. This video was made over a quarter of a decade ago and still nothing has been released to the public. McCarthy states that they have no interest in making money off his discovery, then why not release the information to the public? More so why have not countless others who have access to his research not leaked or backed up his research?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Bearrings?!?! BOGGLES THE FRIGGIN MIND! ARE THERE REALLY RETARDS WHO BOUGHT INTO THIS CRAP, OR IS THIS SOME YOUTUBE JOKE LIKE RICKROLLING?!?!
Steorn is a private limited Irish company. Shares in the company are not publicly traded. Due to the contentious nature of our technology claim the company made a decision that during the process of validation we would seek no further funding. A brief summary of our annual accounts is shown below:
Profit (loss) before tax (249,146) 68,864 (12,379) (779,047) (1,794,648)
The numbers stop as of 2005. A SURE SIGN that they are going to go bankrupt.
The simple solution is almost always the correct solution, right? The 'operating environment' argument seems ridiculous. No word from them in the last 15 months. No attempt to demo again 15 months later. No responses to inquiries on their web page. No press releases in the last 15 months besides a fluff press release. Not a single comment from Steorn on their YouTube clips
I am telling you, pictture six guys sitting on their asses at their desks waiting for the cash burn to come to an end
Its true they haven't released any info in the past year or so, which isn't worrying at all, as they did say they (& selected scientists) had rigorous testing to do.
In this world we are way to impatient when new technologies appear, some are even threatened by it (as shown by reaction to Steorn.) Give it time!
And you're right about "simple solution", this method Steorn have developed of free energy, is sound. A little bit of energy to result in more energy than you first started with. Simple!
It's not sound at all, you are being ridiculous and naive. It does not take a team of scientists years to verify that a magical magnetic motor can generate free energy.
And there is crux of the matter, there is NO free energy. It's all a scam.
You will NEVER see Steorn deliver anything. The bankruptcy auction can't be that far away. Sleazy Sean will be bidding on the computer that he used to use to surf the net and twiddle his thumbs. The cash burn has to come to an end.
lol! Who's to say it doesn't take a team of scientists years to verify something? Each of these scientists aren't just gathered to flick a switch and say "Yes is works" or "No it doesn't".
It may surprise you to learn that some of these experts are gathered from very different fields such as Immunology to Nucleonics to Thermodynamics, and their job is not to rush results but come to a reasoned and safe judgement on the operational aspect of Orbo, but sure, if you require rushed results... =\
The Orbo doesn't exist. You do not need a team of scientists. The premise is that it turns by itself, that's all you have to do. Or, if you want to be more daring, connect it to a small generator and have it pump 1/32 watt of power into a load resistor. That's it!
I am an electrical engineer and I know what I am talking about.
The dawn of the era of free energy somehow breaking the laws of the universe, or pathetic thieving Steorn going bankrupt? It's a no brainer.
Ok you're saying 'you don't need a team of scientist", well im saying; You do.
Why?
Because of accountability and backing, both from the scientific community & commercial side. Something as momentous as "free energy" (which has NEVER been applied this way before) needs TIME & RESEARCH.
Making a small version & rushing it out resulted in the video we see above.
Only until all variables are calculated can you honestly initiate something like Orbo to an operational capacity.
p.s. What does being an Electrical Engineer have to do with Orbo? No offence, I'm sure you're good at wiring houses, but being a electrical engineer doesn't make you qualified to understand magnetic systems, fields & materials, Finite Elements ~ its an entirely different field to magnetic engineering.
I'm no good at wiring houses. I know enough about magnetic systems, fields & materials, plus tons of stuff that you probably have never even heard of.
The Orbo is a black box. If it can turn on it's own it's an over unity device. That's all there is to it. That's the sum of all of my engineering knowledge in one simple sentence. Forget all of the window dressing. You sound somewhat like a shill.
I think that statement shows how little you know about serious testing. Its vital to have a immunologist on staff to study levels of magnetic interference Orbo has on humans and animals, if any. Its a basic testing guideline.
"I think that statement shows how little you know about serious testing. Its vital to have a immunologist on staff to study levels of magnetic interference Orbo has on humans and animals, if any. Its a basic testing guideline."
That's a ridiculous statement. They are supposedly testing a "prototype" and would not need an immunologist. As far as the testing timeline goes, check the press releases on their web site. It doesn't really matter though because it is all bullshit.
Just a few statements ago you said it didn't exist"
You are failing to pick up on some nuance.
The company will declare bankruptcy and disappear into obscurity. It can't be far from now. Their web site is bullshit and they have no products. They are probably 'consulting' and installing networking systems in small companies in the Dublin area.
From the company that was going to change the world to Joe Blows pushing wires through walls, how about that?
"Its true they haven't released any info in the past year or so, which isn't worrying at all, as they did say they (& selected scientists) had rigorous testing to do."
The revealing of the 'select group of scientists' never happened. Nor were any reports submitted by the testers, I think they were supposed to respond within 18-24 months and that never happened, that deadline is long past.
In other words, the selected testing panel story was all B.S.
It remains a mystery to me, how people can "argue" with their brain being amputated:
- Of course they do not think for one second, otherwise they could find that in history 1000s so called Perpetuum Mobile existed & none of them worked.
- they take a YT video (!!!) as scientific evidence
- they apparently do not like or ignore any scientific methodology, but do not care either if a proof has given empirically and are not interested in why none of the so-called "free energy" "inventions: worked
Any one can translate to spanish more or less that the man of the video says? Or can you give me another link to see how this invention works?
I am very interested in this. I don´t think that it can be true that they can create energy from anything but if this is true the fisic that we konwn today is going to change very much and our lifes too, or no? Maby some people don´t interested that this be konowed.
His Body Language (rubbing Nose:removing dirt, stepping back:escape, hughing himself:protection) speaks for itself. This guy shows no confidence for what he stands for! And he knows it...
In conclusion, I don't think Steorn is trying to scam anyone. I think the problem is that they believe firmly that they've achieved something, when they are far from it.
"... is a violation of the principle of conservation of energy.
The principle of the conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created or destroyed, it can only change form."
They are not generating energy from thin air. Magnets, store magnetic energy (which can run out). This energy is converted to create the electricity. Magnets need to be magnetized, and some even use Cobalt (same chemical found in batteries).
It's impossible to generate energy from 'nothing'.
"They are not generating energy from thin air. Magnets, store magnetic energy (which can run out). This energy is converted to create the electricity."
That is completely stupid nonsense. I have read this nonsense on YouTube hundreds of times. You were NEVER taught that in school, what could possibly make you think that?
Dude, do you understand how a generator works? It's the same principal.
The point that I was trying to make, however, is that you need some kind of motion from the coil or magnets to create the electricity. Wind turbines will use wind to spin the propeller which is attached to either a coil or a magnet (this is how we generate electricity from these things), but these guys are trying to use the magnets themselves to start and continue the motion (by the looks of it) which is not possible.
You got it right in this posting about the motor and the LED. In your previous posting substitute "motion" for "external mechanical power and you got it right.
However, in your earlier posting where I quoted you, you got it wrong. No energy is being extracted from the magnets whatsoever, it all comes from the external mechanical energy.
I didn't explain it very well in my previous post. I meant to say if their invention does work by using the magnets to create the motion, then the motion will not last forever because the magnets will lose their magnetism over time.
... By constant we mean that with the exception of mechanical failure the technology will continue to operate indefinitely."
Magnets do not have an unlimited lifetime. All magnets will lose their magnetism at some point. If the magnets are constantly being used within a magnetic field, and under heat, the life span will be greatly shortened.
The lights in that room would have to be over 100º Celsius for there to be any minoraffect on the device.
If such a simple device doesn't work, it's because of poor design. Their design is nothing special, it is the most primitive and commonly thought of designs for failed attempts at generating electricity from magnets.
Their patent is nothing more than a device that places a piece of metal over a magnet to block out magnetic fields. Thus, they haven't achieved anything.
Their Orbo design will not work. For them to generate any energy from it they would require a coil, and a coil would create such a magnetic force against the magnets that it would just stop and do nothing. Even if it is connected to an external generator, the external generator would need energy to drive the shaft, and it would most likely also use a coil.
If they can't get Orbo to work without a coil, then they've got no chance getting it to work with a coil. Period.
Nikloai Tesla had an idea at the start of the 1900's utilising the natural gravity of the earth to make a disc spin. This is still feasible, just needs to be thought of differently. Anyone else ever hear of this? I am genuinely interested.
Whatever force is pushing down on an object will need to be displaced, such as the object moving closer to the floor. Once it hits the floor, what then? It needs to be replaced at the top again. Which requires enery.
The only thing I can currently think of to take advantage of this is rain (water). Effectively a water wheel, lol. Which we already have.
It wasn't a physical interaction he was suggesting. More, a way to isolate gravity from affecting one side of the disc, thus providing the force needed. Sounded interesting, but unfeasable.
There are fields and energy in space and earth that exist but have not been tapped, the first discovery of a new field or energy will always come in the form of apparent free energy... keep experimenting.
The motivation might be perfectly sincere. But that doesn't mean they have developed a free energy machine. All that shows is that they believe they have.
They're not the first company to ever find themselves in this position. This is what happens when engineers attempt to do science. The machines are generally developed by engineers and debunked by physicists.
This was a disinformation campaign to convince people we dont have free energy from the ether. So all the skeptics can gloat saying yeah we knew but i will tell you this I have been using free energy for years now so you skeptics go ahead & pay your money to the oil companies in the form of stealth taxes, & keep going to ur jobs while deluded ones like me are sitting in the back yard with a couple cold ones
The only way that you are getting free energy is if you have tapped into your neighbour's power supply! Yes, I am calling you a liar (or deluded as to the definition of 'free energy' as used in these comments).
i just cant believe they have FAILED US ALL THEY MIGHT AS WELL JUST STAY on there little ireland and forget there second demo THERE JUST a BUNCH OF MUPPETS
they really screwed up thats for sure they should be ashamed free energy my ass they ve been paid off §§§§§§ THATS THE END OFF ORBO NO ADDITONAL BEARINGS MY ASS THEY SHOULD OF HAD THEM SHIPPED FOR NEXT DAY FOR REPLACEMENT
Violating the laws of thermodynamics goes against the petrol mob which might includes your leaders. Play save - "be patriotic" - we never know. But that´s a false question! All you have to know is that noone violates the conservation of energy cause cause we don't live in a closed system but in a open system with the active vacuum. Be aware of broken bearings!
the fact here is that oil is our energy source and govs want it kept this way. steorn should just release there schematics of system for free and spread there technology
Open your eyes. Then put a physics textbook in front of them. There is no conspiracy. Likewise, if they really did have something, why would they give it out for free?
New energy can be discovered especially if it is intangible and doesn't effect cosmic events. We make physics based on things we observe and the try to predict the existence of fields and objects using induction from various symmetries. There is always a chance that we will be able to tap an unknown energy.
They got threatened? By who? When? Where's the evidence? Why not just release the technology online?
Perhaps, the more plausible theory, is that they are just like many other people, that have made the same claims. They did not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, and are just liars.
I recogn they had the real deal but could no longer keep up with the threats so they made an excuse to terminate the demo for security reasons. Steorn can prove me wrong with another demo but i know what i am saying is true
Because people on this Earth are controlled by energy, food and the retention of knowledge. If the knowledge about these things and their use would be available to all, the Illuminati or other egotists could no longer play their power game. Churches, sects and drugs would lose their importance. Therefore it is imperative for the Illuminati to keep these things from the rest of the world, in order to feed their greed and their ego with their might.
Are we to believe that the universe is constructed of components that do not have to obey our thermodynamics (gravity, magnetism, nuclear forces, electrostatics), and yet everything that is composed of these "exceptions" must?
Or, should we look a little closer at the special interests that edit and publish our textbooks? Maybe there is a profit motive, or even military/political motives, to keeping us all brainwashed into thinking we need to meter energy?
Some call this Zero Point Energy, but none dare call it impossible. You cannot argue that gravity is not an active force (doing work), that it isn't always operating or that it doesn't operate without any recognizable energy source. You cannot argue that the nuclear forces, electrostatic forces or magnetic forces are not active forces (doing work), that their effect (strength) varies or that they don't operate without any recognizable energy source.
The atom is a perfect perpetual motion machine. Does the atom violate the first law of thermodynamics? When an electrostatic field associated with an atom does work (e.g. repels an ion), does an energy state change in the atom? Why not? Where does the energy come from to sustain those fields?
Think for yourself, people. The basic wheel-works of nature are powered and sustained by a constantly replenishing energy source.
"Special Interests" huh? In addition to being a blind believer who lacks a grasp of fundamental, 5th grade physics, you're also a conspiracy theorist. No matter, Steorn failed. They failed because they have nothing. The believers will continue to believe blindly with no evidence of any kind and none of these machines will ever work.
There are at least, half a dozen of claimed of free energy motors using magnets. But what we have yet to see is a video of one actually working not for just a few seconds but more like, at least a full minute powering couple of bulbs! Then I will believe in it.
Why would you believe it just because you saw it? It would have to be taken apart in order to check for hidden power sources. It would also have to be shown to work inside a shielded container, in order to eliminate the possibility of energy-input via induction or radiation.
That's it, Nalyean, it's seems to be a big show with flashes and horns made for failure. Well, it didn't work for me, thereby i will continue on my "free lunch" quest on negative entropy if you like - because it´s "cool"! And, first hand, because it's real! Yes, that's right, some configurations on permanent magnets really taps ZPE. Some geometric structures on crystals seem to tap that energy too - see John Hutchison batteries. Related to gravity? yes, To earth magnetic field? no.
Do you have any idea how many scientific journals there are? Do you know how many highly skilled scientists there are, constantly re-examining every aspect of the physical world? Why do free-energy fans persist in thinking that a handful of crackpots can do what real scientists cannot do? Looks like 'class warfare' to me; not a scientific dispute.
This was a debunking excercise thats why they got so much publicity to set it up for failure, so skeptics will no longer believe in free energy well i have it running in my house, so go ahead & live in the past
Excuse me, Steorn might or might not be a fake. My opinion is that they have been STOPPED by a powerful pressure lobby. Have in mind that zero point energy in already a science fact, or if you will extracting energy from the active vacuum. What is questionable is the claim Steorn have a working device that can tap this new source of energy and make a comercial product out of it.
It is true that ZPE is accepted scientific fact, in that it explains the Casimir Effect and the Knight Shift. However, the idea that it can be extracted is still highly speculative; it may exist only in a quantum-statistical sense. Otherwise, where is the gravitational field associated with all that ZPE (or could ZPE explain those astronomical anomalies?!).
Why should there be a 'pressure lobby'? The hydrogen fuel cell is a viable (and real) technology, but it is not being suppressed. In the real world, companies 'buy into' rival technologies; suppression is just too much trouble.
So you all think Sean is a fake? Losers. To Sean: What are you doing? Stalling your own devices? How can a machine have a bearing problem after being tested continuosly for months? Humanity needs that technology before it might be too late. If you can´t handle a public demo then show those blueprints to someone that can. Hurry up your next "public demonstration", or i will have no doubt that you were bought up by the big oil already - and that will make you a two-times loser.
Desperation drives people to do desperate things. Lets just all move on and forget this sham but not the search for better energy sources. Meanwhile, someone aught to start criminal fraud charges. BTW, zero point comes in the form of break even analysis on wind/solar/geo-thermal. The energy to make each device, once harvested (ie after 4 yrs with wind) is quantifiable. Thereafter, the continuing operation, after maintenance costs, represents surplus energy. Take heart all!
ok explain the scam to me. how have they profitted from this ? some investors have kept the bills paid for their offices for a year or two ? and now sean is going to take the thousands of dollars he has made and run off to an island ? a scam would be managing to sell the rights to it for billions and then running off and laughing about it. a scammer wouldnt bother giving a long drawn out speech ( with some incredibly good acting if he is a scammer ) about it not working.
it might not be as simple as you think. maybe sean is being scammed by someone from within. sean may believe he has a product that works himself, while getting conned from someone on the inside. Who knows how much money is in the works. All they need to do now is say oh sorry 'technical failure' wait for upcoming orbo 2 while more people invest, and the hidden scammer makes more money, and after that fails... rinse and repeat until exposed.
There might be some hidden winners. Steorn claims to have acted as an expert witness in trials. What do you bet that clever defence lawyers will now try to have decisions overturned on the basis that Steorn is clearly scientifically incompetent?
You, and every physicist in the world (apart from the usual crackpot ones, of course: Dr[earned] Aspden, Dr[earned] Puthoff, Dr[bought] Bearden, Dr[bought] Valone, etc.)
Yeah, this so-called "product" has been around for months, yet they have never shown any evidence of it working in action. Every cell phone has a camera in it. I'd hope they'd at least have one of those :D
I agree with commanderetardo, why would they embarrass themselves like this? I think it's more likely that they got threatened than that they're fakes.
hairhorn.... the thing is. do you get, just on a gut level, that this guy is a scammer ? they might have tapped into something that can be explained ( ie. the rotation comes form the earth's magnetic core ) but i dont get the feeling that they are full-on scammers. i mean why would they emberass themselves like this? even if they are mistaken, i think that they are sure they have something real.
Over 150 years ago, crafty clockmakers were selling 'perpetual motion' clocks which ran for ever without winding. They were secretly driven by changes in air pressure. There are lots of energy-producing phenomena like this, but they are good only for running scam prototypes; not for powering your TV.
I can't believe people are still falling for the old perpetual motion scam, learn some science people or read some history at least, its all there, all you need is a pair of sceptical eyes and google
This stinks they got loads of mainstream media interests for it to not work how conveient & now they r trashin the whole free energy movement. Well done big oil but Im not fooled by this media con, just look for yourself with loads of ppl using free energy. Free energy is here to stay & has been for over a hundred years, so get over it & lets move on.
Here is the sad part, this sack of crap not only scammed the investors out of their money, but he has also scammed "Us" on you tube out of our time, for watching, his bull. Shame on us but even more shame for the poor investors, I hope they weren't old ladies.
Bring the one from the lab?!?!?! Obviosly they say they already HAVE one that works! Jeez. I hate when my hopes are dashed. Especially when my hopes shouldn't have been there to begin with.
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Green energy -Newton was wrong granted, all who show machines with no plans =fake all who have plans and (of course) no machine = fake. This one below has video, math in description and all specs measured in front of you in the film and no money it is free information all on the video and a 16 year old could build it youtube.com/watch?v=jEwzalCFdKw
willreasonprevail 5 months ago
So this is from 3 years old. Why dont you keep up the info?
A lot had happend sence this.
Tbonyandsteak 1 year ago
Where did these "engineers" get their degrees? Just wondering, because no real engineer would fall for this nonsense.
JamesThWilliams 1 year ago
maybe it ran out of magic fairy dust :-}
mic363 2 years ago 4
This just represents the state of ireland at the moment-
a fucking joke!
slozer 2 years ago
It's just suspicious. Why would they demo a broken product??
Trackfresh 2 years ago
@Trackfresh Simply so that a lot of people will recognize their logo and brand name. A marketing strategy.
aryesegal1988 10 months ago
McCarthy certainly looked uncomfortable. He has been quoted as saying that there will be a public demo before end of 2009 so lets hope that he doesn't have to make another apology like this!
enantiomer2000 2 years ago
He should be made to apologise for wasting everybodies time. You can't get something for nothing. A 'free energy' machine is impossible.
Lpoolboy 2 years ago
If the amount of energy they extract per interaction is very small then bad bearings very well could destroy any OU... maybe these new ZeroF bearings will help?
enantiomer2000 2 years ago
It's not like they couldn't just film it when it was/does work in the lab is it?
wikichris 2 years ago
Aaaaaaaah well, back to door to door drive way tarmacing with these paddy conmen.
smartarse001 2 years ago
It only works when nobody is looking because looking at it breaks the magic.
"Any Questions?" yep, have you always been a lying git?
davidsinfield 2 years ago
So what is the lesson to all the idiots that invested in this scam?
Don't skip physics class
paulie1982 2 years ago
What a bullshit artist. This device has never worked and never will.
zzytrewq 2 years ago
Lulz. My condolences to all the dipshits who invested in this scam.
Maybe think twice before buying into the next "Free Energy" claim? Maybe finally listen to some physicists? Just throwin' it out there.
0prahTV 2 years ago
They're not done scaming people yet. They claim they're going to release the technology at the end of the year despite the Jury results
BipedalHumanoid 2 years ago
"Upset Science" - they certainly fucking did that.
wikichris 2 years ago
The jury has resigned after finding no evidence the units work as Steorn has proposed.
Their own evidence, their own jury.
murdocha 2 years ago
Note all the stumbling as he talks.
Sadly, nothing has ever become of Sean McCarthy's research. This video was made over a quarter of a decade ago and still nothing has been released to the public. McCarthy states that they have no interest in making money off his discovery, then why not release the information to the public? More so why have not countless others who have access to his research not leaked or backed up his research?
Google:
"One way Magnetic Shielding"
FreeMagneticEnergy 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Bearrings?!?! BOGGLES THE FRIGGIN MIND! ARE THERE REALLY RETARDS WHO BOUGHT INTO THIS CRAP, OR IS THIS SOME YOUTUBE JOKE LIKE RICKROLLING?!?!
3LITA 3 years ago
Hahahah ... this Steorn guy is full of shit, but still everybody's listening. Hahaha ... too funny. It was the bearing. Yes, sure. Yahahahahahahahah.
joaquinveyron 3 years ago
Over 5000 people applied to become involved in the process of validation, including nearly 500 qualified scientists.
The validation process began in January 2007 and is expected to conclude by the end of this year.
END OF 2007 MY ASS!!! YOU SLEAZES!!!
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Steorn is a private limited Irish company. Shares in the company are not publicly traded. Due to the contentious nature of our technology claim the company made a decision that during the process of validation we would seek no further funding. A brief summary of our annual accounts is shown below:
Profit (loss) before tax (249,146) 68,864 (12,379) (779,047) (1,794,648)
The numbers stop as of 2005. A SURE SIGN that they are going to go bankrupt.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
did the system permanatly fail, or was there just a problem with it?
furChrist 3 years ago
There never was a system, it was all a con.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
it wasn't a con - the operating environment within the casing exceeded the devices capacity to function within tolerances.
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
The simple solution is almost always the correct solution, right? The 'operating environment' argument seems ridiculous. No word from them in the last 15 months. No attempt to demo again 15 months later. No responses to inquiries on their web page. No press releases in the last 15 months besides a fluff press release. Not a single comment from Steorn on their YouTube clips
I am telling you, pictture six guys sitting on their asses at their desks waiting for the cash burn to come to an end
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Its true they haven't released any info in the past year or so, which isn't worrying at all, as they did say they (& selected scientists) had rigorous testing to do.
In this world we are way to impatient when new technologies appear, some are even threatened by it (as shown by reaction to Steorn.) Give it time!
And you're right about "simple solution", this method Steorn have developed of free energy, is sound. A little bit of energy to result in more energy than you first started with. Simple!
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
It's not sound at all, you are being ridiculous and naive. It does not take a team of scientists years to verify that a magical magnetic motor can generate free energy.
And there is crux of the matter, there is NO free energy. It's all a scam.
You will NEVER see Steorn deliver anything. The bankruptcy auction can't be that far away. Sleazy Sean will be bidding on the computer that he used to use to surf the net and twiddle his thumbs. The cash burn has to come to an end.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
lol! Who's to say it doesn't take a team of scientists years to verify something? Each of these scientists aren't just gathered to flick a switch and say "Yes is works" or "No it doesn't".
It may surprise you to learn that some of these experts are gathered from very different fields such as Immunology to Nucleonics to Thermodynamics, and their job is not to rush results but come to a reasoned and safe judgement on the operational aspect of Orbo, but sure, if you require rushed results... =\
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
The Orbo doesn't exist. You do not need a team of scientists. The premise is that it turns by itself, that's all you have to do. Or, if you want to be more daring, connect it to a small generator and have it pump 1/32 watt of power into a load resistor. That's it!
I am an electrical engineer and I know what I am talking about.
The dawn of the era of free energy somehow breaking the laws of the universe, or pathetic thieving Steorn going bankrupt? It's a no brainer.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Ok you're saying 'you don't need a team of scientist", well im saying; You do.
Why?
Because of accountability and backing, both from the scientific community & commercial side. Something as momentous as "free energy" (which has NEVER been applied this way before) needs TIME & RESEARCH.
Making a small version & rushing it out resulted in the video we see above.
Only until all variables are calculated can you honestly initiate something like Orbo to an operational capacity.
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
p.s. What does being an Electrical Engineer have to do with Orbo? No offence, I'm sure you're good at wiring houses, but being a electrical engineer doesn't make you qualified to understand magnetic systems, fields & materials, Finite Elements ~ its an entirely different field to magnetic engineering.
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
I'm no good at wiring houses. I know enough about magnetic systems, fields & materials, plus tons of stuff that you probably have never even heard of.
The Orbo is a black box. If it can turn on it's own it's an over unity device. That's all there is to it. That's the sum of all of my engineering knowledge in one simple sentence. Forget all of the window dressing. You sound somewhat like a shill.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
"such as Immunology"
Immunology? You have to be kidding. Can you get AIDS from intimate contact with an Orbo?
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
I think that statement shows how little you know about serious testing. Its vital to have a immunologist on staff to study levels of magnetic interference Orbo has on humans and animals, if any. Its a basic testing guideline.
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
"I think that statement shows how little you know about serious testing. Its vital to have a immunologist on staff to study levels of magnetic interference Orbo has on humans and animals, if any. Its a basic testing guideline."
That's a ridiculous statement. They are supposedly testing a "prototype" and would not need an immunologist. As far as the testing timeline goes, check the press releases on their web site. It doesn't really matter though because it is all bullshit.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Ok so NOW you're saying Orbo exists?
Just a few statements ago you said it didn't exist, and you refer to it as a overunity device? wow, what a way to state the obvious!
And on a side note, I don't personally know Steorn or any of the testing staff involved.
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
"Ok so NOW you're saying Orbo exists?
Just a few statements ago you said it didn't exist"
You are failing to pick up on some nuance.
The company will declare bankruptcy and disappear into obscurity. It can't be far from now. Their web site is bullshit and they have no products. They are probably 'consulting' and installing networking systems in small companies in the Dublin area.
From the company that was going to change the world to Joe Blows pushing wires through walls, how about that?
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Another reality check here:
"Its true they haven't released any info in the past year or so, which isn't worrying at all, as they did say they (& selected scientists) had rigorous testing to do."
The revealing of the 'select group of scientists' never happened. Nor were any reports submitted by the testers, I think they were supposed to respond within 18-24 months and that never happened, that deadline is long past.
In other words, the selected testing panel story was all B.S.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
When was this deadline exactly? please provide a link if possible.
okkamsrazor 3 years ago
It remains a mystery to me, how people can "argue" with their brain being amputated:
- Of course they do not think for one second, otherwise they could find that in history 1000s so called Perpetuum Mobile existed & none of them worked.
- they take a YT video (!!!) as scientific evidence
- they apparently do not like or ignore any scientific methodology, but do not care either if a proof has given empirically and are not interested in why none of the so-called "free energy" "inventions: worked
joaquinveyron 3 years ago
Any one can translate to spanish more or less that the man of the video says? Or can you give me another link to see how this invention works?
I am very interested in this. I don´t think that it can be true that they can create energy from anything but if this is true the fisic that we konwn today is going to change very much and our lifes too, or no? Maby some people don´t interested that this be konowed.
Sorry about my bad english.. Thanks!
juantxokoka 3 years ago
Maybe they don't have anything, but they feel ashamed because they though that they did... so now they are a buncha guiness drinking liars?
enantiomer2000 3 years ago
His Body Language (rubbing Nose:removing dirt, stepping back:escape, hughing himself:protection) speaks for itself. This guy shows no confidence for what he stands for! And he knows it...
mammon125 3 years ago 2
reminds me about bushs way of speech
GamlGandalf 3 years ago
if i was them, i would have made some stuff up about the magnet's currie point LOL
fattoldpig 3 years ago
orbo needs the world to particpate
dan020350 3 years ago
smoke screen, counter intelligence
dis information.
someone is makin someone very very nervous
maintain course and heading all
marktimmer2212 3 years ago
In conclusion, I don't think Steorn is trying to scam anyone. I think the problem is that they believe firmly that they've achieved something, when they are far from it.
Good luck to them anyway.
johnking87 3 years ago
And lastly,
"... is a violation of the principle of conservation of energy.
The principle of the conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created or destroyed, it can only change form."
They are not generating energy from thin air. Magnets, store magnetic energy (which can run out). This energy is converted to create the electricity. Magnets need to be magnetized, and some even use Cobalt (same chemical found in batteries).
It's impossible to generate energy from 'nothing'.
johnking87 3 years ago
... Just because you can't see the energy coming from a magnet, doesn't mean it's not there.
If I use compressed air to power a generator, is that breaking the laws of thermal dynamics?
No.
johnking87 3 years ago
"They are not generating energy from thin air. Magnets, store magnetic energy (which can run out). This energy is converted to create the electricity."
That is completely stupid nonsense. I have read this nonsense on YouTube hundreds of times. You were NEVER taught that in school, what could possibly make you think that?
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Dude, do you understand how a generator works? It's the same principal.
The point that I was trying to make, however, is that you need some kind of motion from the coil or magnets to create the electricity. Wind turbines will use wind to spin the propeller which is attached to either a coil or a magnet (this is how we generate electricity from these things), but these guys are trying to use the magnets themselves to start and continue the motion (by the looks of it) which is not possible.
johnking87 3 years ago
If you don't believe me, go to your local electronics/hobby shop, and buy a little motor and an LED for about $5.
Hook the LED to the motor terminals, and spin the shaft with your finger. The LED will light up. This is how generators work.
So... supplying power to the motor will output motion, and the opposite (supplying motion will output in electricity) is also true.
johnking87 3 years ago
You got it right in this posting about the motor and the LED. In your previous posting substitute "motion" for "external mechanical power and you got it right.
However, in your earlier posting where I quoted you, you got it wrong. No energy is being extracted from the magnets whatsoever, it all comes from the external mechanical energy.
Drevtoobe 3 years ago
Okay sorry I think I know what you mean now.
I didn't explain it very well in my previous post. I meant to say if their invention does work by using the magnets to create the motion, then the motion will not last forever because the magnets will lose their magnetism over time.
johnking87 3 years ago
Their claim is also misleading:
"Orbo produces ... constant energy.
... By constant we mean that with the exception of mechanical failure the technology will continue to operate indefinitely."
Magnets do not have an unlimited lifetime. All magnets will lose their magnetism at some point. If the magnets are constantly being used within a magnetic field, and under heat, the life span will be greatly shortened.
johnking87 3 years ago
The lights in that room would have to be over 100º Celsius for there to be any minoraffect on the device.
If such a simple device doesn't work, it's because of poor design. Their design is nothing special, it is the most primitive and commonly thought of designs for failed attempts at generating electricity from magnets.
Their patent is nothing more than a device that places a piece of metal over a magnet to block out magnetic fields. Thus, they haven't achieved anything.
johnking87 3 years ago
Their Orbo design will not work. For them to generate any energy from it they would require a coil, and a coil would create such a magnetic force against the magnets that it would just stop and do nothing. Even if it is connected to an external generator, the external generator would need energy to drive the shaft, and it would most likely also use a coil.
If they can't get Orbo to work without a coil, then they've got no chance getting it to work with a coil. Period.
johnking87 3 years ago
Nikloai Tesla had an idea at the start of the 1900's utilising the natural gravity of the earth to make a disc spin. This is still feasible, just needs to be thought of differently. Anyone else ever hear of this? I am genuinely interested.
BigDriddiford 4 years ago
Whatever force is pushing down on an object will need to be displaced, such as the object moving closer to the floor. Once it hits the floor, what then? It needs to be replaced at the top again. Which requires enery.
The only thing I can currently think of to take advantage of this is rain (water). Effectively a water wheel, lol. Which we already have.
feralferret 4 years ago
It wasn't a physical interaction he was suggesting. More, a way to isolate gravity from affecting one side of the disc, thus providing the force needed. Sounded interesting, but unfeasable.
BigDriddiford 4 years ago
There are fields and energy in space and earth that exist but have not been tapped, the first discovery of a new field or energy will always come in the form of apparent free energy... keep experimenting.
SlavaVB 4 years ago
Ouch that's gotta hurt!
2LegHumanist 4 years ago
pseudoscience falls hard.
hairhorn 4 years ago 9
as does sarcasm. bet the world knows ur name, eh?
BigDriddiford 4 years ago
"Isn't it an intentional hoax created to ridicule free energy concept ?"
No, it's a hoax to make you think it's an intentional hoax created to ridicule free energy concept.
Drevtoobe 4 years ago
Isn't it an intentional hoax created to ridicule free energy concept ?
bodziobran 4 years ago
Are you a free energy enthusiast?
PerfectBlindness 4 years ago
Go to their web site and have a look at their balance sheet... Very expensive and illegal hoax if it is.
2LegHumanist 4 years ago
Follow where the money flow.That method always uncover real motivation...
bodziobran 4 years ago
The motivation might be perfectly sincere. But that doesn't mean they have developed a free energy machine. All that shows is that they believe they have.
They're not the first company to ever find themselves in this position. This is what happens when engineers attempt to do science. The machines are generally developed by engineers and debunked by physicists.
2LegHumanist 4 years ago
This was a disinformation campaign to convince people we dont have free energy from the ether. So all the skeptics can gloat saying yeah we knew but i will tell you this I have been using free energy for years now so you skeptics go ahead & pay your money to the oil companies in the form of stealth taxes, & keep going to ur jobs while deluded ones like me are sitting in the back yard with a couple cold ones
naleyan 4 years ago
The only way that you are getting free energy is if you have tapped into your neighbour's power supply! Yes, I am calling you a liar (or deluded as to the definition of 'free energy' as used in these comments).
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factOstaetsiaFucktom 4 years ago
i just cant believe they have FAILED US ALL THEY MIGHT AS WELL JUST STAY on there little ireland and forget there second demo THERE JUST a BUNCH OF MUPPETS
theoneagain 4 years ago
they really screwed up thats for sure they should be ashamed free energy my ass they ve been paid off §§§§§§ THATS THE END OFF ORBO NO ADDITONAL BEARINGS MY ASS THEY SHOULD OF HAD THEM SHIPPED FOR NEXT DAY FOR REPLACEMENT
HES A LYER
theoneagain 4 years ago
Violating the laws of thermodynamics goes against the petrol mob which might includes your leaders. Play save - "be patriotic" - we never know. But that´s a false question! All you have to know is that noone violates the conservation of energy cause cause we don't live in a closed system but in a open system with the active vacuum. Be aware of broken bearings!
Blueskyh2o 4 years ago
the fact here is that oil is our energy source and govs want it kept this way. steorn should just release there schematics of system for free and spread there technology
theoneagain 4 years ago
Open your eyes. Then put a physics textbook in front of them. There is no conspiracy. Likewise, if they really did have something, why would they give it out for free?
ociemitchell 4 years ago
New energy can be discovered especially if it is intangible and doesn't effect cosmic events. We make physics based on things we observe and the try to predict the existence of fields and objects using induction from various symmetries. There is always a chance that we will be able to tap an unknown energy.
SlavaVB 4 years ago
I agree, I think they got threatened big time, and this made this whole thing an anticlimax. Too bad...when will this technology be revealed??
forsvarasverige 4 years ago
forsvarasverige,
They got threatened? By who? When? Where's the evidence? Why not just release the technology online?
Perhaps, the more plausible theory, is that they are just like many other people, that have made the same claims. They did not violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, and are just liars.
particle409 4 years ago
I recogn they had the real deal but could no longer keep up with the threats so they made an excuse to terminate the demo for security reasons. Steorn can prove me wrong with another demo but i know what i am saying is true
theoneagain 4 years ago
why this science is kept secret !
Because people on this Earth are controlled by energy, food and the retention of knowledge. If the knowledge about these things and their use would be available to all, the Illuminati or other egotists could no longer play their power game. Churches, sects and drugs would lose their importance. Therefore it is imperative for the Illuminati to keep these things from the rest of the world, in order to feed their greed and their ego with their might.
theoneagain 4 years ago
someone has messed up the system to make fools of steorn thats a shame i guess thats the end of it
theoneagain 4 years ago
Steorn PWNed by the laws of physics. Go back to never-never land idiots.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
Are we to believe that the universe is constructed of components that do not have to obey our thermodynamics (gravity, magnetism, nuclear forces, electrostatics), and yet everything that is composed of these "exceptions" must?
Or, should we look a little closer at the special interests that edit and publish our textbooks? Maybe there is a profit motive, or even military/political motives, to keeping us all brainwashed into thinking we need to meter energy?
DanielGuinan 4 years ago
Some call this Zero Point Energy, but none dare call it impossible. You cannot argue that gravity is not an active force (doing work), that it isn't always operating or that it doesn't operate without any recognizable energy source. You cannot argue that the nuclear forces, electrostatic forces or magnetic forces are not active forces (doing work), that their effect (strength) varies or that they don't operate without any recognizable energy source.
DanielGuinan 4 years ago
The atom is a perfect perpetual motion machine. Does the atom violate the first law of thermodynamics? When an electrostatic field associated with an atom does work (e.g. repels an ion), does an energy state change in the atom? Why not? Where does the energy come from to sustain those fields?
Think for yourself, people. The basic wheel-works of nature are powered and sustained by a constantly replenishing energy source.
DanielGuinan 4 years ago
At atom simply retains energy which it was given.
Magnets don't make energy. They push back, just as if you poked your finger into a balloon.
vw77 4 years ago
"Special Interests" huh? In addition to being a blind believer who lacks a grasp of fundamental, 5th grade physics, you're also a conspiracy theorist. No matter, Steorn failed. They failed because they have nothing. The believers will continue to believe blindly with no evidence of any kind and none of these machines will ever work.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
they're gonna fake their death then take the money and run.. just watch.
bolognium420 4 years ago
Of course! That's what the head-shaving was all about; practising disguises!
flowerbower 4 years ago
There are at least, half a dozen of claimed of free energy motors using magnets. But what we have yet to see is a video of one actually working not for just a few seconds but more like, at least a full minute powering couple of bulbs! Then I will believe in it.
ysin98 4 years ago
Why would you believe it just because you saw it? It would have to be taken apart in order to check for hidden power sources. It would also have to be shown to work inside a shielded container, in order to eliminate the possibility of energy-input via induction or radiation.
flowerbower 4 years ago
That's it, Nalyean, it's seems to be a big show with flashes and horns made for failure. Well, it didn't work for me, thereby i will continue on my "free lunch" quest on negative entropy if you like - because it´s "cool"! And, first hand, because it's real! Yes, that's right, some configurations on permanent magnets really taps ZPE. Some geometric structures on crystals seem to tap that energy too - see John Hutchison batteries. Related to gravity? yes, To earth magnetic field? no.
joaocary 4 years ago
Do you have any idea how many scientific journals there are? Do you know how many highly skilled scientists there are, constantly re-examining every aspect of the physical world? Why do free-energy fans persist in thinking that a handful of crackpots can do what real scientists cannot do? Looks like 'class warfare' to me; not a scientific dispute.
flowerbower 4 years ago
This was a debunking excercise thats why they got so much publicity to set it up for failure, so skeptics will no longer believe in free energy well i have it running in my house, so go ahead & live in the past
naleyan 4 years ago
I don't think it is too far-fetched to believe that we, as a people, are on the breakthrough of something along this line.
bjorno 4 years ago
Excuse me, Steorn might or might not be a fake. My opinion is that they have been STOPPED by a powerful pressure lobby. Have in mind that zero point energy in already a science fact, or if you will extracting energy from the active vacuum. What is questionable is the claim Steorn have a working device that can tap this new source of energy and make a comercial product out of it.
joaocary 4 years ago
It is true that ZPE is accepted scientific fact, in that it explains the Casimir Effect and the Knight Shift. However, the idea that it can be extracted is still highly speculative; it may exist only in a quantum-statistical sense. Otherwise, where is the gravitational field associated with all that ZPE (or could ZPE explain those astronomical anomalies?!).
flowerbower 4 years ago
Why should there be a 'pressure lobby'? The hydrogen fuel cell is a viable (and real) technology, but it is not being suppressed. In the real world, companies 'buy into' rival technologies; suppression is just too much trouble.
flowerbower 4 years ago
Get real. My opinion is that you're a WANKER.
sp00n3d 4 years ago
So you all think Sean is a fake? Losers. To Sean: What are you doing? Stalling your own devices? How can a machine have a bearing problem after being tested continuosly for months? Humanity needs that technology before it might be too late. If you can´t handle a public demo then show those blueprints to someone that can. Hurry up your next "public demonstration", or i will have no doubt that you were bought up by the big oil already - and that will make you a two-times loser.
joaocary 4 years ago
Desperation drives people to do desperate things. Lets just all move on and forget this sham but not the search for better energy sources. Meanwhile, someone aught to start criminal fraud charges. BTW, zero point comes in the form of break even analysis on wind/solar/geo-thermal. The energy to make each device, once harvested (ie after 4 yrs with wind) is quantifiable. Thereafter, the continuing operation, after maintenance costs, represents surplus energy. Take heart all!
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RBare2007 4 years ago
Why did he have a three day timeline for this demo when they announced it on their web site in April? I was a believer and now I am not.
dch050771 4 years ago
yep.... i knew this was a scam from day 1
iamdegenatron 4 years ago
ok explain the scam to me. how have they profitted from this ? some investors have kept the bills paid for their offices for a year or two ? and now sean is going to take the thousands of dollars he has made and run off to an island ? a scam would be managing to sell the rights to it for billions and then running off and laughing about it. a scammer wouldnt bother giving a long drawn out speech ( with some incredibly good acting if he is a scammer ) about it not working.
commanderetardo 4 years ago
it might not be as simple as you think. maybe sean is being scammed by someone from within. sean may believe he has a product that works himself, while getting conned from someone on the inside. Who knows how much money is in the works. All they need to do now is say oh sorry 'technical failure' wait for upcoming orbo 2 while more people invest, and the hidden scammer makes more money, and after that fails... rinse and repeat until exposed.
iamdegenatron 4 years ago
There might be some hidden winners. Steorn claims to have acted as an expert witness in trials. What do you bet that clever defence lawyers will now try to have decisions overturned on the basis that Steorn is clearly scientifically incompetent?
flowerbower 4 years ago
You, and every physicist in the world (apart from the usual crackpot ones, of course: Dr[earned] Aspden, Dr[earned] Puthoff, Dr[bought] Bearden, Dr[bought] Valone, etc.)
flowerbower 4 years ago
Yeah, this so-called "product" has been around for months, yet they have never shown any evidence of it working in action. Every cell phone has a camera in it. I'd hope they'd at least have one of those :D
shiftlessxl 4 years ago
I agree with commanderetardo, why would they embarrass themselves like this? I think it's more likely that they got threatened than that they're fakes.
mscir 4 years ago
hairhorn.... the thing is. do you get, just on a gut level, that this guy is a scammer ? they might have tapped into something that can be explained ( ie. the rotation comes form the earth's magnetic core ) but i dont get the feeling that they are full-on scammers. i mean why would they emberass themselves like this? even if they are mistaken, i think that they are sure they have something real.
commanderetardo 4 years ago
Over 150 years ago, crafty clockmakers were selling 'perpetual motion' clocks which ran for ever without winding. They were secretly driven by changes in air pressure. There are lots of energy-producing phenomena like this, but they are good only for running scam prototypes; not for powering your TV.
flowerbower 4 years ago
the only thing noteworthy about this story is that people are paying attention to it.
hairhorn 4 years ago
I can't believe people are still falling for the old perpetual motion scam, learn some science people or read some history at least, its all there, all you need is a pair of sceptical eyes and google
paulie1982 4 years ago 2
no video... yeah right
cuicuimusic 4 years ago
I am sick & tired of con men trying to extract money from the gullible.
alpal2002 4 years ago
This stinks they got loads of mainstream media interests for it to not work how conveient & now they r trashin the whole free energy movement. Well done big oil but Im not fooled by this media con, just look for yourself with loads of ppl using free energy. Free energy is here to stay & has been for over a hundred years, so get over it & lets move on.
naleyan 4 years ago
good god... if you think oil is steorn's biggest enemy, you're sadly deluded.
Steorn's biggest enemy is common sense:
Q: "Where does the energy come from?"
A: "It comes from nowhere!"
Sheesh.
hairhorn 4 years ago 2
its a magnetic system i believe therefor it comes from the earth, so its not overunity, but it is free energy. But this was a set up,
naleyan 4 years ago
no energy is free. and "magenetic motors" like this are just mythological.
hairhorn 4 years ago
Here is the sad part, this sack of crap not only scammed the investors out of their money, but he has also scammed "Us" on you tube out of our time, for watching, his bull. Shame on us but even more shame for the poor investors, I hope they weren't old ladies.
wbridges75 4 years ago
The machine ran for four hours but they cannot provide any video evidence of this ?? Tell us another Irish joke Sean !!
Just another free energy con :(
rentabomb 4 years ago
Bring the one from the lab?!?!?! Obviosly they say they already HAVE one that works! Jeez. I hate when my hopes are dashed. Especially when my hopes shouldn't have been there to begin with.
threebobs 4 years ago
There was a company called Steorn,
Who promised us energy for eons,
To London we all went,
But the bearings got bent!
Can I have the cash back that I spend?
sweeneyde 4 years ago
hah. send that to Steorn, for me :)
iamdegenatron 4 years ago
Patience folks, we'll find out for sure, sooner or later, if it's gonna work or not.
Filter2008 4 years ago
I'm sure we'll find out after they earn enough money.
gratex 4 years ago
Sounds like we already found out that it doesn't work.
qayin 4 years ago
HA-HAAAAAA
do they only have 1 orbo??? they cant show us something?? I think the jig is up for steorn, I admit they had me going for a while...
metalminded 4 years ago