I love this video and I think it is done incredibly well! It would be fantastic if whoever made this could update it now with the newest AAP recommendations :)
great video. I kept my daughter rear facing for almost two years. And if i would have had these facts then probably longer. She is almost 7 and still just 38lbs so weight wise she could still sit RF but i'm sure her legs would not allow it, or her personality lol.
Best.video.ever. I added the link to my babycenter signature, so everyone can see it. I post ALOT on there. I have a 17m old, and he is still RF and he loves it. Happiest baby in the car. My True Fit Premier goes up to 35 lbs RF i believe... and he will be that way until then!!
This video was created in February of 2007. There are new guidelines out there. In this video, it said a child should be rear faced until they are 1 year old and 20 pounds, but the AAP changed the guidelines up until 2 years old or longer. I hate those uneducated idiots who endanger children. "My 1 year old whines in a car seat." or the super idiot says, "Car seats do not keep my kids safer."
It would be awesome if this could be updated with the new recommendation of 2 years minimum rear facing! I would be posting it on facebook if it was up to date :)
My daughter is 40 months and about 32lbs. She is still rear-facing with no complaint. She will be rear-facing till she hits her seat's limit at 45lbs.
Why is the forward facing car seat not buckled properly? My 2 year old nephew and 5 year old niece forward face and they are secured extremely well in their seats. They've also unfortunately been in a frontal collision, and were perfectly safe aside from bruises and being shaken up. My daughter is 6 months old and will be rear facing until she's 2.
@thechestycannibal It is a European car seat, and they are very different from the US models. the model shown in this video is old tough. besides this, you just can´t prevent any forward facing seat from going forward, no matter how tightly you strap it to the car. Even with a seat that is top tethered, the loads on the child can be too high in a crash.
My son is still 33 months and 33 lbs ERF. So many others I know have the facts but still choose to not use them for the best of their child. Im a very proud ERF mom!
In 1993 we had no idea, my kid hit 20 pounds at 4 months old and was forward facing at that point because she outgrew the baby carseat, weight-wise.
In 2005, I had my second child, and the recommendations were much clearer. She was rear facing until she was well over 3 years old and 30 pounds. Legs have nice bendy parts in the middle that lets kids fit even when their legs get "too long".
What happens when you RF and you get hit from behind? Only a minute amount of crashes- 5% are rear ended and in a rear ended crash people tend to lerch forward anyways. Also, speeds are reduced. As a side note, if you wanted to know, in side impact crash, rear facing was far superior than forward facing.
Leg = cast it, Neck=casket
If the child had it's leg broken anyways, the crash must have been severe. If they broke their leg, I would be happy they were rear faced!
thx for that videoclip.. as for me it was a start point to think over the idea of buying next seat for our child.. now I'm sure we wanted to do that too early..
My youngest daughter will be 2 in the beginning of February. She is well over 1 year and 20lbs, which is the minimum requirement for where we live AND her car seat to face forward. She's still rear facing.
I get asked ALL the time if we'll be turning her around soon, and I always reply no. People say she's getting so big, she's getting tall, it's time to turn her around.
I always say, "Break a leg, cast it. Break a neck, casket."
Thank you for this moving video. It literally brought me to tears to see what happens to the crash test dummy in a forward-facing seat. I am sharing this video with my friends because I think it's very important.
my daughter is rear facing and she turned 14 months on the 25th! I am so proud of myself...i even talked my sister into having her 5 month old stay rear facing until shes is 2 at least. Her son was turned around at a year because we didn't know about rear facing- then we looked on his car seat and it said it 5-35 rear facing pounds 20-50 pounds forward facing! he is 3
Are we able to use these videos for power points and stuff? I am doing a school presentation and wanted 2 use this video! thanku!
@elaisaacosta Yes!!!! Yes he can...in Sweden they rearface untill 5 or 6...even 7 depending on the size of the child.My 4yr old is rearfacing till the limits full stop! She is tall too and no problems at all :)
I do believe that children should be rear facing. However, to further prove this point I do believe the dummies in the video should be buckled in properly. The forward facing dummies didn't have an anchor attached which would help hold the car seat in place and the dummies whose seat belts you could see (forward and rear facing) didn't have their clip at the child's armpits.
In the US not all seats require top tethering when forward facing. I'm assuming you are Canadian (as am I) where all forward facing seats must be thethered by law.
My daughter is 6 months and she will remain rear-facing until she weighs 40lbs or is too tall to be rear facing, whichever is first. I feel sorry for the children of parents who are uninformed and let them face forward too young. Thanks for posting this video to help everyone have knowledge that might save their children's lives!
Thanks for putting the ERF message out there! My 5.5 year old and 17 month old are still RF in a Radian and a Britax, and my 7 yo is still harnessed in a Radian, everyone thinks I'm nuts, but O keep trying to convert people!
@tjensen19 Me Too!!! Good on you for making the right choice!! people think Im nuts but I tell them its actually the other way round...I mean why wouldn't you rearface? That to me is just crazy!
Thank you carseatsafety. I got spammed on another video for stating that all three of my kids are riding as safe as possible and still riding rear facing at 4yr3mon and 2yr 11mon and 5.5mon old. Just trying to support these videos and getting slammed is not fun. Thanks again
Why is there a bunch of comments removed from this? Is the person in charge of this video deleting all the negative comments or comments that don't agree with rear-facing?
@allangel2002 They removed them because it is wrong to miss-inform people into making a bad choice.In Sweden they do not have a choice,it is the LAW to rearface untill age ,they make the CHOICE to rearface even longer! because they are smart! and they have little or no child deaths in car accidents.The statistics and 40 yrs of Swedish experience do not lie.
Great Video! We bought the Radian XTSL for our 7 month old daughter and she will be RF for as long as the seat allows which is 45 lbs. My 10 yr old son has also always been in a booster seat b/c I thought he was too short to use the belt alone. After doing a lot of research lately I am glad to see that I was right about keeping him in a booster all along! :)
FIRST rebound also can break the neck, second rear impact side impact and rollover can make the seat move so you need to adapt restrains so the seat that not move sideways and to the back of the car....
@blazej1 All rearfacing carseats are fully tethered...or should be if installed properly.There is more forward and sideways movement in FF,the tether would prevent any rebound
I now own the new Radian (45lb rearfacing weight limit), so my 2.5yr old, who only weighs 23lbs can rearface longer. He has never been forward facing and wont switch until he outgrows rearfacing. He is quite happy and very safe!
I doubt she sat like that for very long, but remember from watching the video that her legs will fly up in a crash. In any crash, objects (including legs) will fly toward the point of impact. Her back is quite safe.
The Sunshine Kids Radian80 now RF until 45lbs... if anyone (which I'm sure many are!) is interested. I have a 2 year old son, as well as a baby due in February. My son is still RF in his Radian80 (but it will only RF until 35lbs). We will be getting a new Radian80 for the new baby, and he will RF until 45lbs. My 2 year old will probably wind up in the newer Radian, just so he can RF longer, while the baby can stay in the older Radian until he hits 35lbs.
The new Radian is FR till 45 lbs-- i just got mine. It is great. My son outgrew his Chico Keyfit 30 and his radian will last him until he no longer needs a seat-- hopefully. It also has a 5 pt harness until 80 lbs! People keep giving me a hard time because I want to keep him RF. This vider brought tears to my eyes. Take care of your babies! Be well.
I've noticed a lot of comments on here by people who are uneducated. Some have said that the same thing will happen to a RF child if they're in a rear impact crash. Statistics show that the majority of crashes are head on which is why RF is better. Also, rear impact crashes are typically at lower speeds and less severe. Also, the child's body does not have as far to slam outwards when they're RF. It is safest to RF and you simply can not argue it. Its a fact, not an opinion.
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Did anyone notice that in the Rear Facing Crash test the DUMMY had either been taped down or a strap is over the BABY's head. I would really like to see it without that nice little helper in the way to prevent it's spine from snapping back the other day. Look at 1:55 on the video.
This "tape" is actually a sensor to see how far the child was "ramping up" during the crash test. There is a general rule of 1 inch below the top of the seat back to prevent the head from coming into contact with anything above their seat. However, Britax (the brand of this seat) has allowed the head to be even with the shell. This only applies to their seats sold outside the US.
read the other comments. the point is ITS GRAVITY the child is not going to fly forward in the event of a crash like he would if he was in a foreward facing.
stop trying to find excused to not keep your child rear facing and look at the mechanism of impact. REAR FACING IS BEST! there would be no reason to tape the dummy in place. Notice the teather strap which come with the seat to prevent the seat from ripping loose!
Yes, I'm sure that that is tape and makes ALL the difference. That's why I just duct tape my kids to the roof of the car. Seriously people! Comon sense!
I'm sorry and I get you point, but are sujesting that we also TAPE down our children's face with white tape just like the sample video you used???? see at 1:52 the dumbies head is taped down to the chair and you even see how the head is pulled back by the tape.
I don't know what they were testing here BUT they did tape the dumbies head down with tape and that makes the video irrelevant for you point.
It's a censor that has been taped to the child dummy head to measure movement, it doesn't stop movement it measures it!
do you not see how the car seat, seat and other restrats strain under the impact? what the hell makes you think a silly piece of tape has more strength than nylon straps and metal?! wow, just wow.
that is simply incorrect. for every rear collision, there is a driver behind you that has a front collision with your car. not to mention your car hitting a tree, lamp post, parking cars etc, which whill always be front even if there is no one to have the "rear" side
Have you ever been hit from behind? The most common injury is whiplash - regardless of whether that's an adult neck or a child's.
The forces applied to the neck are very similar whether struck from behind or from the front. The difference is that in a rear-end collision, you tend to be going from a stop to moving, whereas in a front-end collision you tend to be going from moving to a stop. Either way, rear-facing car seats will reduce injuries to a child's head, neck and spine.
Incorrect. Frontal and frontal offset crashes account for 76% of all accidents while rear end crashes account for only 4%. The rest are side impact crashes.
Just want to add my 38in, 27lbs, 3 year old is happily RFing in a Sunshine Kid's Radian 65! My 4 year old just topped out at 40lbs and can no longer RF in his SKR65, and he is not happy about FFing!
My LO is happily RFing at 23 months...and will continue to do so for as long as possible. In fact, we are buying the new My Ride so that we can hopefully get to 40 lbs. RF is safer...of that I have no doubt. RF vs. FF is a "simple" parenting decision. The decision to ERF is one that was easy for me...I will do ANYTHING that I can to ensure my child's health and safety. It's not hype...it's fact. And that's shy she watches the world go by out the back window.
Thank you. This has caused us to do a lot of research. I have yet to find a list of seats that can be used backwards, and I don't think ours would be safe that way; we have the Graco Nautilus. Might you know of a list of seats for toddlers and pre-schoolers that can safely be installed RF?
Any convertible carseat can be used both RF and FF. That being said, different seats have different weight limits for RF. Some top out at 30lbs. Others top out at 33-35 lbs (Britax seats). One, the Graco My Ride 65, tops out at the highest level in the US...40 lbs. Check the manual of any seat (or even look for a sticker ont he seat itself...) for that particular seats weight guidelines.
I would highly, highly recommend the Britax brand seats. They are awesome seats.
Great info, just want to add that Sunshine Kid's has upped ther Radian modles from 35lbs to 40 lbs RFing. But only on models made after 9/08. the seats will say 35lbs on them but after being sent out they further teseted the weight limit and they are safe to use RFing up to 40lbs. So there are 2 US seats that can hold 40lbs RFing! The SKR also has a taller shell then the MyRide.
Graco in the US just came out with a new carseat in June of this year it is called the myride65. It goes to 40 lbs rear facing and 65 in harness forward facing. My 15 month old has alot of room to grow in it and it only costs around 150.00
Why can't the US adopt the same standards as Sweeden????!!!! My daughter is off the charts big for her age and I'm going to have to turn her carseat FF in two pounds. I wanted to purchase the Britax Multi Tech, but was told it was illegal to use a foreign carseat in the US b/c it has not been tested on US regulation vehicles. WHY THE HECK can't we take action to make safer ERF carseats available here in the US??????????????
Have you investigated whether the BE izi combi seat is available.. I live in Scandinavia and that is the rear facer we use ... our almost 4year old sits in it very comfortably... it doesn't require a huge car either and fits fine in eg ford focus..
It's in built height means the child can look out the window too.. our kids 4 and 2 love it..
Current research (and European recommendations) suggest rear-facing car seats until at least 4 years of age or as long as possible. When this recommendation was adopted in Sweden some years ago, the number of kids injured in car accidents dropped significantly. See kidsintraffic dt com
Great video, It has convinced me to turn my daughter's car seat around. She is 21 months and 28 lbs and has been forward facing for a few months. Her seat will allow her to rear face up to 35 lbs.
Have you ever considered that COSTCO is simply a mass retailer and has nothing to do with carseat safety? Costco is NOT a manfacturer. Target, Walmart and even BabiesRUs have been known to publish incorrect information as well. Do your own research, using reliable sources such as actual carseat manufacturers, SafeKids, The American Acedemy of Pediatrics or talking to CERTIFIED CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY TECHNiCIANS. You sir, are wrong. Your information is incorrect. RF to the limits of the carseat!!
thanks for posting this i have a 6 month old and she grew out of her infant seat 2 months ago she couldnt even hold her head up !! some friend told me she had to ff now ?! couldnt belive it , althought i bought the more expensive car seat so she could rf i caught sh** from people. I am now so glad that she is rf, and the seat i got lasts till she is 35 lb!! I also convinced my sister to rf her son who is 2.5 and only 22 lb He should be able to rf for a long time !!
The Rear-Facing "dummy" head is NOT taped down to the seat. It's just measuring how much the head flies forward.
I will never get why parents choose to forward face so early! Car accidents are the #1 killer of children and forward facing too soon and premature booster usage are the reasons why! In Sweden children Rear Face to age 4 or 5! And approx. 1 child a year dies in auto accidents. We need to catch up with sweden!
I think the video gives a false view as the crash test with the forward facing seat shows the seat is not even tethered! I would like to see the forward facing crash test done with the carseat actually tethered, I'm sure there would be a big difference!
There will be a difference, however in the US tethering is NOT mandatory, meaning a seat has to pass without it. The above crash test shows what "passing" looks like. Kinda scary isn't it? Tethering is so important. However, I perform car seat checks twice a month (i am a certified tech) and I can say without a doubt that almost 80% of parents who come in DO NOT have their seats tethered. That means that the crash test is very close to what the majority of parents are doing. So it is realistic.
You seat absolutely cannot be tethered rear facing. Only two brands allow it and Cosco is NOT one. Your seat is not reinforced to take the force of a rear facing crash while tethered. Your seat could shattered. Read your manual.
I was confused on what you meant by tethering, Im going to assume now that you mean the top part. not the bottom LATCH part which is what I was refferring to. That is where the confusion lies. Hopefully this clears it up.
Both my girls are or have been rear facing. My oldest child is 5 and she was in her car seat rear facing untill she turned 4. My yougest is 2 and she is still turned rear faced and will for two more yr I hope! Here in Norway they are talking about making a law against turning children forward facing before they turn 4. In Sweden they don't sell car seats that you can face forward for children under 30 lbs
my kids all rf'd as long as they could... my oldest to 22lbs (the limit of his convertible seat), my second to 1yr and 30lbs (thirty pounds was the limit of his convertible seat, but he hit it at 1yr old), and my third to 2.5yrs old when she hit the 33lb limit of her Marathon and stayed there.
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Look at the RF seat in the crash at 1:35. It is behind the other one! I just noticed it! It looks just as bad. The video of the RF crash by itself has a bar behind the carseat. Totally rigged.
the bar behind the rear facing carseat would be the front seat in the car. DUH So of course the carseat would bump the bar... because it would be bumping the front seat of the car which would stop the forward motion.
not all cars will have a seat that butts RIGHT AGAINST the back of the carseat. A bigger car like my honda pilot will not have that. Did you look at the RF seat at 1:35 that doesn't have the bar? It's BEHIND the FF one. It's just as bad if not worse. DUH.
No its not as bad, or worse. The car eat is cradling the childs head so it isn't be thrusted forward. That is what makes RF so safe. Please, study the physics behind car accidents before making these statements.
i think that it is true that they should stay rear facing but the head is definatly restrained in the RF crash and mysteriously not in the FF. Bad example of a RF crash. People are only going to doubt it now. You should find a better video of a RF crash so you don't give them any reasons to doubt!
I've already commented on this but I am going to do it again. My son is not even 1 month old yet and I have already decided he will be rear-facing until 35lbs in his Cosco Scenera and he will be in a 5pt harness until 65-80lbs(depending on the car seat I get for him when it is time) This video is a great source of information! Kudos to all the moms who are keeping their children safer by keeping them rear-facing and harnessed for as long as possible!
My children will both be rear facing for as long as their seat will let them. And we will keep them in a five point harness until they are too tall or too heavy for one.
Jescalynn- go ahead and take your chances. Sorry to say, but I think YOU are the crazy one...
I've sent this link to many people. I have already received grief from people about my 10 month old son RFing. His carseat RFs til 35lbs. He will STAY RFing until then. I've shown my husband this video, and he totally agrees with me. I wish MORE people knew about the benefits of extended RFing. Why hasn't this been on a news show or something? It needs to be seen by more parents.
My daughter was turned forward right at a year, then turned back to rearfacing last week. She's 33 months old. SHe hasn't complained about being turned around. In fact, when I first turned it, she thought it was really cool. And she seems to sleep better while rearfacing since it is angled more so her head doesn't flop around as much.
My daughter was not turned ff until she was over 3 years old. She maxed out her weight/height for rf and finally got turned. Can't tell you the number of comments I got from people about turning her around earlier. I can't do everything to protect my kids, but this is one thing I can control. I would have taken an unhappy 3 year old (which she wasn't while rf) over an empty seat any day!
thank you so much for making this video, i wish more people would pay attention to it... it's really sad when i see parents switch their babies to face the front as soon as they turn one because they think that's just what they are supposed to do.
Whenever I have my kids they will be kept rear-facing for as long as possible, I think there needs to be a movement in this, Sweeden keep their children rear facing till 5 years or 55lbs, how come our country doesn't have a seat like that, many car seat makers doing business in the us are doing business over there making these seats How come we don't have those seat too, when there death rates are low in kids under 55 lbs in sweeden?
I have a cousin who would still be alive if he had been rear facing at 15 months old. He was internally decapitated and his spinal cord severed. It DOES happen.
My baby is still rear facing and will be as long as possible.
The top of the rear facing child's head is NOT taped to the restraint in the crash video. That is a tape measure to measure head excursion (how far the head moves during a collision). That test is performed on ALL rearfacing crash tests. As for tethering to the floor for rearfacing seats, I'm not sure I see it in this particular video, however Britax seats and Radian seats tether rearfacing to the floor and have for years.
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if it isnt taped, then why is this mysterious sensor, not there in the FF test?? I think this is information placed together to make it look a lot worse then it is... there is no way a 3 year old like some of you crazy people have been saying should be rear facing!
As an EMT, I can tell you that you are wrong. There are PLENTY of reasons why a 3 yr old should still be RF. That video does not make it look worse than it is...it was dead on. You don't want to see those injuries yourself, keep your kid RF.
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Yeah, well my kids are much bigger then the average kid, (55lbs at 3, and 30 at 18months), I will take my chances. I know they are safe, and I drive a safe car, we are covered. There is a balance for each family, RF for your 3 year old may work for you, but I choose to not do that.
Besides people, remember the Kyle video, and how many Britax Regent seats that sold! How do you not know this is another advertising ploy??? (LOL, I own the Regent by the way)
Jescalyn, that is a horrible, offensive thing to say. The Miller family suffered a terrible loss. One that I cannot even fathom. Yet they have turned their tragedy into something positive by raising money to get free seats to families in need. And you have the audacity to accuse them of an advertising ploy? I assure you, they gain nothing on monetary value from what they have done, and neither does the maker of this video. Shameful, truely shameful.
@jescalynn You sick sick person!!! these poor people are suffering and always will be....could you even imagine tht pain? How dare you.You are not a nice person....I hope to god you are never in a severe accident with your FF babies.
HOnestly, if I could rear face my 7,10 and 12 year old, I would! It is the safest way to travel! Why wouldn't you try and keep your child in the safest position for as long as possible? If your child can rear-face, you are crazy not to do it!
@jescalynn Your nuts.The jury is out...60 odd years of research and all people are trying to do is save lives and kids and you want to argue?? where is your logic? exactly why shouldnt kids rearface? It is statistically safer end of story..its a proven FACT so wake up and do the right thing.
I would love to see this information spread to every parent! It is rare to see toddlers rear facing. Also I still see many car seats poorly installed. Unfortunately the easy to install seats are too costly for many families.
I totally love this video!! I will most likely keep my baby rearfacing for up to 30lbs. I am going to buy the Britax Boulevard and currently we use the Chicco Keyfit
Remember, the opposite of a frontal impact is crashing while backing up! Yeah, you can't predict how you'll crash, but how fast do you drive when you back up??? Rear facing is safer even if you're rear ended because the force is still pushing you forward and the strain in the neck and spine is the same as in a frontal impact.
With a front end crash, you are going 30MPH to 0 in a second. That is what this test is showing. But think about what happens when you are rear-ended. You are either already stopped, and then jolted up to a few MPH. But you have the brakes and transmission working in your favor, to keep you from being thrown too far. Or, you were already going some speed and then you are pushed to a further speed. But you still have your transmission working in your favor. Rear Facing is safer. Period.
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This video is misleading. Please explain why
the dummy has its head taped in the RF video? Also, the test shows the RF seat secured to the bottom of the floor. Tell me which car, truck, suv has an eyebolt sticking up from their floor! Not all rear facing seats have that third strap that allows it to anchor anywhere either. (2nd response)
And a recent study has shown that in side impacts children riding FF is 4 times more likely to get injured than RF kids. So the bottom line is, rear facing is always safer! This data is from:
Car safety seats for children: rear facing for best protection
B Henary, C P Sherwood, J R Crandall, R W Kent, F E Vaca, K B Arbogast, M J Bull
I currently own a Recaro FF child seat "child sport" with the HANS "Head and neck support".
I've been personally been in the racing industry and strongly believe in the product.
Do one thing for your piece of mind. Install a rear facing properly. Grab the head portion of the seat and shake it up/down and side to side. These seats tend to slide left to right and have a tendency of bucking opposed to FF.
Don't belive every piece of data that is typed up out there to push a product.
I did not say there was suppose to be no rebound. Have you even read my previous responses. Do you even know why I argued with this video? The dummy in the video had been
restrained at the head if you had paid close enough
attention. Another thing was the top portion of the seat was anchored down to the floor
of the contraption. Can you tell me which vehicles out there were designed to be installed in this specific manner to get the same desired results?
It has been said so many times, the head is restrained. Is it tape that measures head excursion. And yes, there are two manufacturers (that I know of for sure, the Sunshine Kid Radians, and Britax) can tether their seats rear-facing. It still allows for rebound, but it helps stabalize the seats in the event of a roll-over accident. In Sweden, where the seats can RF to 55lbs, they are supported by a foot that attaches to the floor.
that is not a restraint for the head... it is a sensor... taped to the head, but the head is not secured to the seat... it measures head excursion, that is all.
there is one on the ff dummy, too... you just don't see it as obviously as you do when the wire is up over the head of the rf dummy.
P.S. I am a aircraft mechanic by trade and I build global positioning satellites for a company out here in California. I assemble
these spacecrafts and test them mechanically,
electrically as well as structurally.
I'm comfortable with my continuing education and experience with physics.
I can respect an argument with the proper evidence to support it. It irritates me when small minded people have to be abrupt with an insult to feel they have a grasp of their ideas.
All you have to do to anchor a seat RF is to attached the tether to something that is bolted to the floor of the car. Or, you can have a car dealership put one in for you.
As far as the foot I am referring to, it is the design of the Swedish RF car seats. It prevents over rotating so as to withstand heavier weights. You will have to look at Swedish car seats to know what I am talking about.
True, all convertible carseats have rear and forward facing capabilities. Teathering refers to the latch at the top of the carseat. In ALL carseats you can teather forward facing, but only in Britax and Sunshine kids (radians) can you teather rear facing.
Yes, all convertible seats can be used rear or forward facing. The other posters are talking about tethering. Meaning you use that black strap attached to the TOP of your car seat above your child's head. That strap is made for forward facing only EXCEPT for two brands that allow you to use that top strap to secure the seat rearfacing-you secure it to the front seats. These two brands are Britax and Sunshine kids. NO OTHER seats can tether rear facing
Well that's very odd, because I have an Evenflo Triumph and the instructions say that it can only be tethered forward facing. If you have it tethered rear facing, then you have it installed incorrectly and that in itself is dangerous, since the seat isn't made to do it.
That doesn't mean it's right. Read your manual. You are making your child a car seat crash dummy. What is so hard about reading the freaking manual!!?!?!?!?!? For the hundredth time YOU CAN ONLY TETHER TWO BRANDS REARFACING!!!!!! Damn people can't listen
I love this video and I think it is done incredibly well! It would be fantastic if whoever made this could update it now with the newest AAP recommendations :)
dixiedandelion87 2 weeks ago
i should install a rear-facing drivers seat and drive using a rear-facing front view mirror. id be invincible
sc0rp404 3 weeks ago
great video. I kept my daughter rear facing for almost two years. And if i would have had these facts then probably longer. She is almost 7 and still just 38lbs so weight wise she could still sit RF but i'm sure her legs would not allow it, or her personality lol.
tdeannenc 3 weeks ago
Best.video.ever. I added the link to my babycenter signature, so everyone can see it. I post ALOT on there. I have a 17m old, and he is still RF and he loves it. Happiest baby in the car. My True Fit Premier goes up to 35 lbs RF i believe... and he will be that way until then!!
DiaperWarrior 1 month ago
This video was created in February of 2007. There are new guidelines out there. In this video, it said a child should be rear faced until they are 1 year old and 20 pounds, but the AAP changed the guidelines up until 2 years old or longer. I hate those uneducated idiots who endanger children. "My 1 year old whines in a car seat." or the super idiot says, "Car seats do not keep my kids safer."
boneheaders 5 months ago 2
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powerfullogic 6 months ago
It would be awesome if this could be updated with the new recommendation of 2 years minimum rear facing! I would be posting it on facebook if it was up to date :)
savedbygrace99 7 months ago 2
My daughter is 40 months and about 32lbs. She is still rear-facing with no complaint. She will be rear-facing till she hits her seat's limit at 45lbs.
reneenyc2008 7 months ago
Great video! I will share- but way toooooo fast. Please re-do and slow down so we can read and get full impact of the script.
ljmboucher 7 months ago 2
Why is the forward facing car seat not buckled properly? My 2 year old nephew and 5 year old niece forward face and they are secured extremely well in their seats. They've also unfortunately been in a frontal collision, and were perfectly safe aside from bruises and being shaken up. My daughter is 6 months old and will be rear facing until she's 2.
thechestycannibal 9 months ago
@thechestycannibal It is a European car seat, and they are very different from the US models. the model shown in this video is old tough. besides this, you just can´t prevent any forward facing seat from going forward, no matter how tightly you strap it to the car. Even with a seat that is top tethered, the loads on the child can be too high in a crash.
lenats31 8 months ago
My son is still 33 months and 33 lbs ERF. So many others I know have the facts but still choose to not use them for the best of their child. Im a very proud ERF mom!
phury1188 10 months ago 2
Thank you for the reply ..
elaisaacosta 10 months ago
okay. I'm convinced
cassondraragan 10 months ago 2
In 1993 we had no idea, my kid hit 20 pounds at 4 months old and was forward facing at that point because she outgrew the baby carseat, weight-wise.
In 2005, I had my second child, and the recommendations were much clearer. She was rear facing until she was well over 3 years old and 30 pounds. Legs have nice bendy parts in the middle that lets kids fit even when their legs get "too long".
jenroses 10 months ago
What happens if you get hit from behind?
JessiesMommy09 10 months ago
@JessiesMommy09
What happens when you RF and you get hit from behind? Only a minute amount of crashes- 5% are rear ended and in a rear ended crash people tend to lerch forward anyways. Also, speeds are reduced. As a side note, if you wanted to know, in side impact crash, rear facing was far superior than forward facing.
Leg = cast it, Neck=casket
If the child had it's leg broken anyways, the crash must have been severe. If they broke their leg, I would be happy they were rear faced!
boneheaders 5 months ago
Shared! Also for all of the people who complain about the cost of a higher rear-facing seat, it's cheaper than a funeral!
daisyterp 10 months ago 2
1:56 it looks like that sensor is holding the head down
Sasperillasquatch 11 months ago
thx for that videoclip.. as for me it was a start point to think over the idea of buying next seat for our child.. now I'm sure we wanted to do that too early..
htrzewik 11 months ago
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This is bs.
mojeska 1 year ago
@mojeska What is BS? Children's lives being saved by staying rear facing?
dawnp15 10 months ago 2
Thanks for the video!
bmurd26 1 year ago
My youngest daughter will be 2 in the beginning of February. She is well over 1 year and 20lbs, which is the minimum requirement for where we live AND her car seat to face forward. She's still rear facing.
I get asked ALL the time if we'll be turning her around soon, and I always reply no. People say she's getting so big, she's getting tall, it's time to turn her around.
I always say, "Break a leg, cast it. Break a neck, casket."
katmagicate 1 year ago 4
Thank you for this moving video. It literally brought me to tears to see what happens to the crash test dummy in a forward-facing seat. I am sharing this video with my friends because I think it's very important.
mrsjfrenz 1 year ago
this is good info thanks
rtradu 1 year ago
my daughter is rear facing and she turned 14 months on the 25th! I am so proud of myself...i even talked my sister into having her 5 month old stay rear facing until shes is 2 at least. Her son was turned around at a year because we didn't know about rear facing- then we looked on his car seat and it said it 5-35 rear facing pounds 20-50 pounds forward facing! he is 3
Are we able to use these videos for power points and stuff? I am doing a school presentation and wanted 2 use this video! thanku!
taygansmom 1 year ago
Looks like 14 people missed the like button...or they don't have kids....or they don't like their kids very much... :/
MOTS411 1 year ago
Thank you for showing us the importance, my son is going to be 4 yr old next month and i was wondering if he could stay rear facing .. ?
elaisaacosta 1 year ago
@elaisaacosta Yes!!!! Yes he can...in Sweden they rearface untill 5 or 6...even 7 depending on the size of the child.My 4yr old is rearfacing till the limits full stop! She is tall too and no problems at all :)
illicitaucks 1 year ago
@illicitaucks Thanks for the reply :)
elaisaacosta 1 year ago
I do believe that children should be rear facing. However, to further prove this point I do believe the dummies in the video should be buckled in properly. The forward facing dummies didn't have an anchor attached which would help hold the car seat in place and the dummies whose seat belts you could see (forward and rear facing) didn't have their clip at the child's armpits.
ksides79 1 year ago
@ksides79
In the US not all seats require top tethering when forward facing. I'm assuming you are Canadian (as am I) where all forward facing seats must be thethered by law.
1yummybaby 1 year ago
My daughter is 6 months and she will remain rear-facing until she weighs 40lbs or is too tall to be rear facing, whichever is first. I feel sorry for the children of parents who are uninformed and let them face forward too young. Thanks for posting this video to help everyone have knowledge that might save their children's lives!
chaosjaded 1 year ago
well whatever put my kids less risk
TicklesMeSillyYou 1 year ago
brill video. been looking into rear facing for a while and this video is brilliant, my mind is made up!
rodentlove 1 year ago
Thanks for putting the ERF message out there! My 5.5 year old and 17 month old are still RF in a Radian and a Britax, and my 7 yo is still harnessed in a Radian, everyone thinks I'm nuts, but O keep trying to convert people!
tjensen19 1 year ago
@tjensen19 Me Too!!! Good on you for making the right choice!! people think Im nuts but I tell them its actually the other way round...I mean why wouldn't you rearface? That to me is just crazy!
illicitaucks 1 year ago
I showed a similar video to a friend who has a 2 year old...she said she talked to a car seat safety person and they said its no safer rr than ff....
tiffypea405 1 year ago
@tiffypea405
That car seat tech is a moron.
elizabeara 1 year ago
WOW. This should make every parent think!!!
TheMALONE1988 1 year ago
Thank you carseatsafety. I got spammed on another video for stating that all three of my kids are riding as safe as possible and still riding rear facing at 4yr3mon and 2yr 11mon and 5.5mon old. Just trying to support these videos and getting slammed is not fun. Thanks again
swtgi1982 1 year ago
Why is there a bunch of comments removed from this? Is the person in charge of this video deleting all the negative comments or comments that don't agree with rear-facing?
allangel2002 1 year ago
@allangel2002 They removed them because it is wrong to miss-inform people into making a bad choice.In Sweden they do not have a choice,it is the LAW to rearface untill age ,they make the CHOICE to rearface even longer! because they are smart! and they have little or no child deaths in car accidents.The statistics and 40 yrs of Swedish experience do not lie.
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petelang 1 year ago
Great Video! We bought the Radian XTSL for our 7 month old daughter and she will be RF for as long as the seat allows which is 45 lbs. My 10 yr old son has also always been in a booster seat b/c I thought he was too short to use the belt alone. After doing a lot of research lately I am glad to see that I was right about keeping him in a booster all along! :)
petelang 1 year ago
This is a great video but I agree about the words going too quickly, or, too many words. I had to keep pausing it.
LionTigerBear320 2 years ago 5
FIRST rebound also can break the neck, second rear impact side impact and rollover can make the seat move so you need to adapt restrains so the seat that not move sideways and to the back of the car....
blazej1 2 years ago
@blazej1 All rearfacing carseats are fully tethered...or should be if installed properly.There is more forward and sideways movement in FF,the tether would prevent any rebound
illicitaucks 1 year ago
I now own the new Radian (45lb rearfacing weight limit), so my 2.5yr old, who only weighs 23lbs can rearface longer. He has never been forward facing and wont switch until he outgrows rearfacing. He is quite happy and very safe!
leighi123 2 years ago
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im sorry but the 2:05 picture that will break her damn back
skylerkeith09 2 years ago
I doubt she sat like that for very long, but remember from watching the video that her legs will fly up in a crash. In any crash, objects (including legs) will fly toward the point of impact. Her back is quite safe.
CarSeatSite 2 years ago
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minimurph24 2 years ago
The Sunshine Kids Radian80 now RF until 45lbs... if anyone (which I'm sure many are!) is interested. I have a 2 year old son, as well as a baby due in February. My son is still RF in his Radian80 (but it will only RF until 35lbs). We will be getting a new Radian80 for the new baby, and he will RF until 45lbs. My 2 year old will probably wind up in the newer Radian, just so he can RF longer, while the baby can stay in the older Radian until he hits 35lbs.
mamawhit322 2 years ago
The new Radian is FR till 45 lbs-- i just got mine. It is great. My son outgrew his Chico Keyfit 30 and his radian will last him until he no longer needs a seat-- hopefully. It also has a 5 pt harness until 80 lbs! People keep giving me a hard time because I want to keep him RF. This vider brought tears to my eyes. Take care of your babies! Be well.
navyima 2 years ago
the words go too fast. not everyone is a speed reader. i might have missed something important. thanks.
cris1892 2 years ago
I've noticed a lot of comments on here by people who are uneducated. Some have said that the same thing will happen to a RF child if they're in a rear impact crash. Statistics show that the majority of crashes are head on which is why RF is better. Also, rear impact crashes are typically at lower speeds and less severe. Also, the child's body does not have as far to slam outwards when they're RF. It is safest to RF and you simply can not argue it. Its a fact, not an opinion.
kay1134 2 years ago 26
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Did anyone notice that in the Rear Facing Crash test the DUMMY had either been taped down or a strap is over the BABY's head. I would really like to see it without that nice little helper in the way to prevent it's spine from snapping back the other day. Look at 1:55 on the video.
suminfishy 2 years ago
It's not tape. It's a sensor to measure how far the child rides up the back of the seat in a collision.
~Sarah
Certified Child Passenger Safety Tech.
babyboomboom0029 2 years ago 13
That's not tape. It's a censor. There is one of the forward facing dummy too.
kapified 2 years ago
Sensor* I'm dumb
kapified 2 years ago
This "tape" is actually a sensor to see how far the child was "ramping up" during the crash test. There is a general rule of 1 inch below the top of the seat back to prevent the head from coming into contact with anything above their seat. However, Britax (the brand of this seat) has allowed the head to be even with the shell. This only applies to their seats sold outside the US.
princesssamplethis 2 years ago 3
read the other comments. the point is ITS GRAVITY the child is not going to fly forward in the event of a crash like he would if he was in a foreward facing.
nmba1MILF 2 years ago
stop trying to find excused to not keep your child rear facing and look at the mechanism of impact. REAR FACING IS BEST! there would be no reason to tape the dummy in place. Notice the teather strap which come with the seat to prevent the seat from ripping loose!
MrKillerjake6 2 years ago
@MrKillerjake6 Wow.Your dumb.I hope you have no kids to drive around.
illicitaucks 1 year ago
Yes, I'm sure that that is tape and makes ALL the difference. That's why I just duct tape my kids to the roof of the car. Seriously people! Comon sense!
MommyJessica1 2 years ago
noob..it's a sensor, which measures the movement of the child dummy's head.
get a clue.
77MommaBear96 2 years ago
They actually changed the standard to 2 years
butterflie2484 2 years ago
I'm sorry and I get you point, but are sujesting that we also TAPE down our children's face with white tape just like the sample video you used???? see at 1:52 the dumbies head is taped down to the chair and you even see how the head is pulled back by the tape.
I don't know what they were testing here BUT they did tape the dumbies head down with tape and that makes the video irrelevant for you point.
agodschalk 2 years ago
read the rest of the comments before you type, the head is NOT taped down.
rambojuliuscaesar 2 years ago
Why are people so freaking stupid?
It's a censor that has been taped to the child dummy head to measure movement, it doesn't stop movement it measures it!
do you not see how the car seat, seat and other restrats strain under the impact? what the hell makes you think a silly piece of tape has more strength than nylon straps and metal?! wow, just wow.
77MommaBear96 2 years ago
good vid. just wondering in a rear collision are they still safer? rear end impacts occur more often than frontal. just wondering.
ie210 2 years ago
that is simply incorrect. for every rear collision, there is a driver behind you that has a front collision with your car. not to mention your car hitting a tree, lamp post, parking cars etc, which whill always be front even if there is no one to have the "rear" side
sita4ram 2 years ago
yes they get craddled in their car seat
julie2542 2 years ago
Have you ever been hit from behind? The most common injury is whiplash - regardless of whether that's an adult neck or a child's.
The forces applied to the neck are very similar whether struck from behind or from the front. The difference is that in a rear-end collision, you tend to be going from a stop to moving, whereas in a front-end collision you tend to be going from moving to a stop. Either way, rear-facing car seats will reduce injuries to a child's head, neck and spine.
dogmelissa 2 years ago
Incorrect. Frontal and frontal offset crashes account for 76% of all accidents while rear end crashes account for only 4%. The rest are side impact crashes.
damnsexycrystal 1 year ago
Just want to add my 38in, 27lbs, 3 year old is happily RFing in a Sunshine Kid's Radian 65! My 4 year old just topped out at 40lbs and can no longer RF in his SKR65, and he is not happy about FFing!
luvbeingluvd 2 years ago
My LO is happily RFing at 23 months...and will continue to do so for as long as possible. In fact, we are buying the new My Ride so that we can hopefully get to 40 lbs. RF is safer...of that I have no doubt. RF vs. FF is a "simple" parenting decision. The decision to ERF is one that was easy for me...I will do ANYTHING that I can to ensure my child's health and safety. It's not hype...it's fact. And that's shy she watches the world go by out the back window.
jenbussan 2 years ago 2
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luvbeingluvd 2 years ago
Thank you. This has caused us to do a lot of research. I have yet to find a list of seats that can be used backwards, and I don't think ours would be safe that way; we have the Graco Nautilus. Might you know of a list of seats for toddlers and pre-schoolers that can safely be installed RF?
weepeoplecommunicate 2 years ago
Any convertible carseat can be used both RF and FF. That being said, different seats have different weight limits for RF. Some top out at 30lbs. Others top out at 33-35 lbs (Britax seats). One, the Graco My Ride 65, tops out at the highest level in the US...40 lbs. Check the manual of any seat (or even look for a sticker ont he seat itself...) for that particular seats weight guidelines.
I would highly, highly recommend the Britax brand seats. They are awesome seats.
jenbussan 2 years ago
Great info, just want to add that Sunshine Kid's has upped ther Radian modles from 35lbs to 40 lbs RFing. But only on models made after 9/08. the seats will say 35lbs on them but after being sent out they further teseted the weight limit and they are safe to use RFing up to 40lbs. So there are 2 US seats that can hold 40lbs RFing! The SKR also has a taller shell then the MyRide.
luvbeingluvd 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this. I am changing my 23 month old son back to RF.
Lynn213220 2 years ago
Graco in the US just came out with a new carseat in June of this year it is called the myride65. It goes to 40 lbs rear facing and 65 in harness forward facing. My 15 month old has alot of room to grow in it and it only costs around 150.00
TheBrower6 2 years ago
Why can't the US adopt the same standards as Sweeden????!!!! My daughter is off the charts big for her age and I'm going to have to turn her carseat FF in two pounds. I wanted to purchase the Britax Multi Tech, but was told it was illegal to use a foreign carseat in the US b/c it has not been tested on US regulation vehicles. WHY THE HECK can't we take action to make safer ERF carseats available here in the US??????????????
charissa218 2 years ago
Have you investigated whether the BE izi combi seat is available.. I live in Scandinavia and that is the rear facer we use ... our almost 4year old sits in it very comfortably... it doesn't require a huge car either and fits fine in eg ford focus..
It's in built height means the child can look out the window too.. our kids 4 and 2 love it..
mommylarsen 2 years ago
Current research (and European recommendations) suggest rear-facing car seats until at least 4 years of age or as long as possible. When this recommendation was adopted in Sweden some years ago, the number of kids injured in car accidents dropped significantly. See kidsintraffic dt com
PeterKzSwe 2 years ago
23 months, and still rear facing.
skijerze 2 years ago 2
Great video, It has convinced me to turn my daughter's car seat around. She is 21 months and 28 lbs and has been forward facing for a few months. Her seat will allow her to rear face up to 35 lbs.
emmyers84 2 years ago 3
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blueeyedirishprinces 2 years ago
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blueeyedirishprinces 2 years ago
There is NO reason to forward face a 1yo!
Unless that baby is somehow over 35lbs.... @@
shamroxgirl 2 years ago
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blueeyedirishprinces 2 years ago
Have you ever considered that COSTCO is simply a mass retailer and has nothing to do with carseat safety? Costco is NOT a manfacturer. Target, Walmart and even BabiesRUs have been known to publish incorrect information as well. Do your own research, using reliable sources such as actual carseat manufacturers, SafeKids, The American Acedemy of Pediatrics or talking to CERTIFIED CHILD PASSENGER SAFETY TECHNiCIANS. You sir, are wrong. Your information is incorrect. RF to the limits of the carseat!!
BellasMomCPST 2 years ago
thanks for posting this i have a 6 month old and she grew out of her infant seat 2 months ago she couldnt even hold her head up !! some friend told me she had to ff now ?! couldnt belive it , althought i bought the more expensive car seat so she could rf i caught sh** from people. I am now so glad that she is rf, and the seat i got lasts till she is 35 lb!! I also convinced my sister to rf her son who is 2.5 and only 22 lb He should be able to rf for a long time !!
aloldenburgh 2 years ago 13
I love this video I have been reccommening it since it first came out. To clarify something I see alot in the comments.
LATCH is the anchors at the bottom of the seat you can use instead of the seatbelt for the install.
Tether is the thing at the top of the seat for forward facing seats and in Britax and Sunshine kids rear facing AND forward facing.
My 18mo is still rear facing, my youngest rear faced til 2.5 when he hit 33 lbs.
brittanypagels 2 years ago
I know the message is important, but that font is annoying and the text moves too fast.
harpoontune 3 years ago
Thank-you so much for posting this!
18 months in one week and still rear-facing.
spacewarriorgirl 3 years ago
my son is 16 months and still RF!!!
hivivalaham 3 years ago
The Rear-Facing "dummy" head is NOT taped down to the seat. It's just measuring how much the head flies forward.
I will never get why parents choose to forward face so early! Car accidents are the #1 killer of children and forward facing too soon and premature booster usage are the reasons why! In Sweden children Rear Face to age 4 or 5! And approx. 1 child a year dies in auto accidents. We need to catch up with sweden!
mama2noah07 3 years ago
I think the video gives a false view as the crash test with the forward facing seat shows the seat is not even tethered! I would like to see the forward facing crash test done with the carseat actually tethered, I'm sure there would be a big difference!
Jolenes33 3 years ago
There will be a difference, however in the US tethering is NOT mandatory, meaning a seat has to pass without it. The above crash test shows what "passing" looks like. Kinda scary isn't it? Tethering is so important. However, I perform car seat checks twice a month (i am a certified tech) and I can say without a doubt that almost 80% of parents who come in DO NOT have their seats tethered. That means that the crash test is very close to what the majority of parents are doing. So it is realistic.
mysweetpeas 3 years ago
i cannot seem to find where you wrote this:
You seat absolutely cannot be tethered rear facing. Only two brands allow it and Cosco is NOT one. Your seat is not reinforced to take the force of a rear facing crash while tethered. Your seat could shattered. Read your manual.
I was confused on what you meant by tethering, Im going to assume now that you mean the top part. not the bottom LATCH part which is what I was refferring to. That is where the confusion lies. Hopefully this clears it up.
poisonedpenguin 3 years ago
The song is Brooke Fraser- Shadowfeet.
suzenz 3 years ago
who sings this song??
ashbug1988 3 years ago
Both my girls are or have been rear facing. My oldest child is 5 and she was in her car seat rear facing untill she turned 4. My yougest is 2 and she is still turned rear faced and will for two more yr I hope! Here in Norway they are talking about making a law against turning children forward facing before they turn 4. In Sweden they don't sell car seats that you can face forward for children under 30 lbs
puncky62 3 years ago
I turned my daughter forward facing when she was 11 months old and outgrew her seat.
Thanks to all who are spreading the word about keeping kids rear facing or i would never have known to TURN HER BACK REAR FACING!
She is now rear facing and will be as long as possible! For us, that will be 30lbs in the Britax Boulevard.
I'm going to share this video with all the parents i know. Thank-you!
shaunmegh 3 years ago
my kids all rf'd as long as they could... my oldest to 22lbs (the limit of his convertible seat), my second to 1yr and 30lbs (thirty pounds was the limit of his convertible seat, but he hit it at 1yr old), and my third to 2.5yrs old when she hit the 33lb limit of her Marathon and stayed there.
KatMomof3 3 years ago
I think discussions are a very healthy way to express ones feelings, views and opinions. However I have decided to block some users from further posting comments. This is not the place for bickering and name calling. If you wish to further your discussion - please do so via the youtube messaging system :)
carseatsafety 3 years ago
carseatsafety rocks =)
Want answers? Google all the sources listed in the video....
PapoosesCPST 3 years ago
Look at the RF seat in the crash at 1:35. It is behind the other one! I just noticed it! It looks just as bad. The video of the RF crash by itself has a bar behind the carseat. Totally rigged.
brittanyaverill 3 years ago
Good eye on this one! I do agree our babes need to be rear facing but the previous comment is so right in that it shouldn't look so fake!
ttmoomoo 3 years ago
the bar behind the rear facing carseat would be the front seat in the car. DUH So of course the carseat would bump the bar... because it would be bumping the front seat of the car which would stop the forward motion.
ladybugsjoy 3 years ago
not all cars will have a seat that butts RIGHT AGAINST the back of the carseat. A bigger car like my honda pilot will not have that. Did you look at the RF seat at 1:35 that doesn't have the bar? It's BEHIND the FF one. It's just as bad if not worse. DUH.
brittanyaverill 3 years ago
No its not as bad, or worse. The car eat is cradling the childs head so it isn't be thrusted forward. That is what makes RF so safe. Please, study the physics behind car accidents before making these statements.
smalls181 3 years ago
i think that it is true that they should stay rear facing but the head is definatly restrained in the RF crash and mysteriously not in the FF. Bad example of a RF crash. People are only going to doubt it now. You should find a better video of a RF crash so you don't give them any reasons to doubt!
brittanyaverill 3 years ago
It is not being restrained. For the 1000th time, it is a measuring tape which measures the head excursion.
smalls181 3 years ago
Were you the one that conducted this test?
It seems that for the 1000th time that your
measuring tape explanation is not convincing!
P.S. I bet you are the one posting a lot of the
negative points just be rightous!
Diman517 3 years ago
I've already commented on this but I am going to do it again. My son is not even 1 month old yet and I have already decided he will be rear-facing until 35lbs in his Cosco Scenera and he will be in a 5pt harness until 65-80lbs(depending on the car seat I get for him when it is time) This video is a great source of information! Kudos to all the moms who are keeping their children safer by keeping them rear-facing and harnessed for as long as possible!
babyboomboom0029 3 years ago
My children will both be rear facing for as long as their seat will let them. And we will keep them in a five point harness until they are too tall or too heavy for one.
Jescalynn- go ahead and take your chances. Sorry to say, but I think YOU are the crazy one...
jenndslp 3 years ago
I've sent this link to many people. I have already received grief from people about my 10 month old son RFing. His carseat RFs til 35lbs. He will STAY RFing until then. I've shown my husband this video, and he totally agrees with me. I wish MORE people knew about the benefits of extended RFing. Why hasn't this been on a news show or something? It needs to be seen by more parents.
kerriebeth21 3 years ago 3
Thanks for this insightful video. My son is 12 months and 21 lbs and is still RF.
crystalc6 3 years ago 3
My daughter was turned forward right at a year, then turned back to rearfacing last week. She's 33 months old. SHe hasn't complained about being turned around. In fact, when I first turned it, she thought it was really cool. And she seems to sleep better while rearfacing since it is angled more so her head doesn't flop around as much.
chrissybliss 3 years ago 4
My daughter was not turned ff until she was over 3 years old. She maxed out her weight/height for rf and finally got turned. Can't tell you the number of comments I got from people about turning her around earlier. I can't do everything to protect my kids, but this is one thing I can control. I would have taken an unhappy 3 year old (which she wasn't while rf) over an empty seat any day!
clueanddizmom 3 years ago 4
thank you so much for making this video, i wish more people would pay attention to it... it's really sad when i see parents switch their babies to face the front as soon as they turn one because they think that's just what they are supposed to do.
hivivalaham 3 years ago 2
My 21 month old is still RFing :)
houseofblue 3 years ago 2
Whenever I have my kids they will be kept rear-facing for as long as possible, I think there needs to be a movement in this, Sweeden keep their children rear facing till 5 years or 55lbs, how come our country doesn't have a seat like that, many car seat makers doing business in the us are doing business over there making these seats How come we don't have those seat too, when there death rates are low in kids under 55 lbs in sweeden?
pingbns 3 years ago
Hello can I interview(e-mail questions) to someone who is a CPS tech and/or keep thier kids rear-facing, extended harnessing
pingbns 3 years ago
Thanks for such a great video! My DD will be RF to 33 pounds, and would be more if I had a seat that could go higher!
luvsviola 3 years ago
I have a cousin who would still be alive if he had been rear facing at 15 months old. He was internally decapitated and his spinal cord severed. It DOES happen.
My baby is still rear facing and will be as long as possible.
ACE61502 3 years ago
Thanks for this video. I actually have my son facing forward. I'll be changing that today!!!
cilkaboo 4 years ago 2
The top of the rear facing child's head is NOT taped to the restraint in the crash video. That is a tape measure to measure head excursion (how far the head moves during a collision). That test is performed on ALL rearfacing crash tests. As for tethering to the floor for rearfacing seats, I'm not sure I see it in this particular video, however Britax seats and Radian seats tether rearfacing to the floor and have for years.
mysweetpeas 4 years ago
I'm looking for other videos to confirm, thank you for clearing that up. I RF, and will RF until I have to turn her around.
stygiangypsy 3 years ago
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if it isnt taped, then why is this mysterious sensor, not there in the FF test?? I think this is information placed together to make it look a lot worse then it is... there is no way a 3 year old like some of you crazy people have been saying should be rear facing!
jescalynn 3 years ago
As an EMT, I can tell you that you are wrong. There are PLENTY of reasons why a 3 yr old should still be RF. That video does not make it look worse than it is...it was dead on. You don't want to see those injuries yourself, keep your kid RF.
reject37records 3 years ago
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Yeah, well my kids are much bigger then the average kid, (55lbs at 3, and 30 at 18months), I will take my chances. I know they are safe, and I drive a safe car, we are covered. There is a balance for each family, RF for your 3 year old may work for you, but I choose to not do that.
Besides people, remember the Kyle video, and how many Britax Regent seats that sold! How do you not know this is another advertising ploy??? (LOL, I own the Regent by the way)
jescalynn 3 years ago
This is not an advertisement ploy, neither is Kyle's video. The longer kids rear-face, stay harnessed and boosted, the better.
isakswings 3 years ago 3
Jescalyn, that is a horrible, offensive thing to say. The Miller family suffered a terrible loss. One that I cannot even fathom. Yet they have turned their tragedy into something positive by raising money to get free seats to families in need. And you have the audacity to accuse them of an advertising ploy? I assure you, they gain nothing on monetary value from what they have done, and neither does the maker of this video. Shameful, truely shameful.
smalls181 3 years ago
@jescalynn You sick sick person!!! these poor people are suffering and always will be....could you even imagine tht pain? How dare you.You are not a nice person....I hope to god you are never in a severe accident with your FF babies.
illicitaucks 1 year ago
HOnestly, if I could rear face my 7,10 and 12 year old, I would! It is the safest way to travel! Why wouldn't you try and keep your child in the safest position for as long as possible? If your child can rear-face, you are crazy not to do it!
isakswings 3 years ago 2
I totally agree with you on the restraint of the head. This experiment was bogus and and has led a lot of people to believe otherwise. They claim
it was only to measure head excursion. It
did more than measure. It held the head back
not allowing the head indicate actual movement.
These ARE crazy people who have a warped sence
of reality. Congrads on the negative points.
I'm racking up a lot of points too.
Diman517 3 years ago
Now, who is the small minded person who cannot make a convincing argument without insulting somebody?
smalls181 3 years ago
you just need to get over yourself, and get a life, stop insulting people and acting like you actually know things you dont online.
Do everyone a favor and just shut up please!
Have a nice day.
jescalynn 3 years ago
@jescalynn Your nuts.The jury is out...60 odd years of research and all people are trying to do is save lives and kids and you want to argue?? where is your logic? exactly why shouldnt kids rearface? It is statistically safer end of story..its a proven FACT so wake up and do the right thing.
illicitaucks 1 year ago
Ahahaha go Kiwi music! Are you from NZ yourself dude?
ligable 4 years ago
I would love to see this information spread to every parent! It is rare to see toddlers rear facing. Also I still see many car seats poorly installed. Unfortunately the easy to install seats are too costly for many families.
jtmidnight 4 years ago
I totally love this video!! I will most likely keep my baby rearfacing for up to 30lbs. I am going to buy the Britax Boulevard and currently we use the Chicco Keyfit
badpenny74 4 years ago
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You can never predict the type of impact you
have the misfortune of having.
Frontal, rear, side, roll-over.....
True there is an optimal position for a PARTICULAR crash but I can't merit this video.
The dummy's head is restrained in the rear facing chair in this clip.
Not a true test! That dummies head would of
whiped back, hence whiplash!
Diman517 4 years ago
Remember, the opposite of a frontal impact is crashing while backing up! Yeah, you can't predict how you'll crash, but how fast do you drive when you back up??? Rear facing is safer even if you're rear ended because the force is still pushing you forward and the strain in the neck and spine is the same as in a frontal impact.
mmand3 4 years ago
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This is a silly responce.
You don't have to back up to get rear ended....
This is a silly argument for the fact it is too vague. Too many variables in seat design alone.
This comment sounds intelligent but not realistic. I've been in 4 violent accients from various angles. That head of yours WILL
be thrown around. (PERIOD!!!)
Diman517 4 years ago
With a front end crash, you are going 30MPH to 0 in a second. That is what this test is showing. But think about what happens when you are rear-ended. You are either already stopped, and then jolted up to a few MPH. But you have the brakes and transmission working in your favor, to keep you from being thrown too far. Or, you were already going some speed and then you are pushed to a further speed. But you still have your transmission working in your favor. Rear Facing is safer. Period.
smalls181 4 years ago
@Diman517 RF in a good seat with side impact protection riding RF will protect the child's head....PERIOD!!
illicitaucks 1 year ago
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This video is misleading. Please explain why
the dummy has its head taped in the RF video? Also, the test shows the RF seat secured to the bottom of the floor. Tell me which car, truck, suv has an eyebolt sticking up from their floor! Not all rear facing seats have that third strap that allows it to anchor anywhere either. (2nd response)
Diman517 4 years ago
it is not taped... what you see attached is only a sensor to measure crash forces
KatMomof3 4 years ago 3
And a recent study has shown that in side impacts children riding FF is 4 times more likely to get injured than RF kids. So the bottom line is, rear facing is always safer! This data is from:
Car safety seats for children: rear facing for best protection
B Henary, C P Sherwood, J R Crandall, R W Kent, F E Vaca, K B Arbogast, M J Bull
Injury Prevention 2007;13:398-402; doi:10.1136/ip.2006.015115
mmand3 4 years ago
I currently own a Recaro FF child seat "child sport" with the HANS "Head and neck support".
I've been personally been in the racing industry and strongly believe in the product.
Do one thing for your piece of mind. Install a rear facing properly. Grab the head portion of the seat and shake it up/down and side to side. These seats tend to slide left to right and have a tendency of bucking opposed to FF.
Don't belive every piece of data that is typed up out there to push a product.
Diman517 4 years ago
It is suppose to have rebound.. that helps with the cradling process of the head, neck and spine. You really have no concept of physics, do you?
smalls181 3 years ago
I did not say there was suppose to be no rebound. Have you even read my previous responses. Do you even know why I argued with this video? The dummy in the video had been
restrained at the head if you had paid close enough
attention. Another thing was the top portion of the seat was anchored down to the floor
of the contraption. Can you tell me which vehicles out there were designed to be installed in this specific manner to get the same desired results?
Diman517 3 years ago
It has been said so many times, the head is restrained. Is it tape that measures head excursion. And yes, there are two manufacturers (that I know of for sure, the Sunshine Kid Radians, and Britax) can tether their seats rear-facing. It still allows for rebound, but it helps stabalize the seats in the event of a roll-over accident. In Sweden, where the seats can RF to 55lbs, they are supported by a foot that attaches to the floor.
smalls181 3 years ago
that is not a restraint for the head... it is a sensor... taped to the head, but the head is not secured to the seat... it measures head excursion, that is all.
there is one on the ff dummy, too... you just don't see it as obviously as you do when the wire is up over the head of the rf dummy.
KatMomof3 3 years ago
P.S. I am a aircraft mechanic by trade and I build global positioning satellites for a company out here in California. I assemble
these spacecrafts and test them mechanically,
electrically as well as structurally.
I'm comfortable with my continuing education and experience with physics.
I can respect an argument with the proper evidence to support it. It irritates me when small minded people have to be abrupt with an insult to feel they have a grasp of their ideas.
Diman517 3 years ago
You may understand the physics of spacecraft, but you clearly do not understand the physics of these crash tests.
smalls181 3 years ago
First of all not all seats are created equal.
Design, Support and materials.
Even if you claim there are two legitimate car
seats that have these tethers. Please indicate
which cars in specific that has anchors to
support the RF car seats. And please educate me as well all the readers what foot you are referencing to.
Diman517 3 years ago 2
All you have to do to anchor a seat RF is to attached the tether to something that is bolted to the floor of the car. Or, you can have a car dealership put one in for you.
As far as the foot I am referring to, it is the design of the Swedish RF car seats. It prevents over rotating so as to withstand heavier weights. You will have to look at Swedish car seats to know what I am talking about.
smalls181 3 years ago 3
In the US, the only brands that can be tethered rear facing are Britax and Sunshine Kids.
princesssamplethis 3 years ago
That's not true. All convertible car seats have rear- and forward-facing capabilities.
QueSera74 3 years ago
True, all convertible carseats have rear and forward facing capabilities. Teathering refers to the latch at the top of the carseat. In ALL carseats you can teather forward facing, but only in Britax and Sunshine kids (radians) can you teather rear facing.
41crem 3 years ago
Not true at all.
xdearclaudiox 3 years ago
Yes, all convertible seats can be used rear or forward facing. The other posters are talking about tethering. Meaning you use that black strap attached to the TOP of your car seat above your child's head. That strap is made for forward facing only EXCEPT for two brands that allow you to use that top strap to secure the seat rearfacing-you secure it to the front seats. These two brands are Britax and Sunshine kids. NO OTHER seats can tether rear facing
mysweetpeas 3 years ago
Well that's very odd, because I have a Evenflo Triumph and it's tethered to my car, rear facing.
xdearclaudiox 3 years ago
Well that's very odd, because I have an Evenflo Triumph and the instructions say that it can only be tethered forward facing. If you have it tethered rear facing, then you have it installed incorrectly and that in itself is dangerous, since the seat isn't made to do it.
amaranthris4 3 years ago
That doesn't mean it's right. Read your manual. You are making your child a car seat crash dummy. What is so hard about reading the freaking manual!!?!?!?!?!? For the hundredth time YOU CAN ONLY TETHER TWO BRANDS REARFACING!!!!!! Damn people can't listen
mysweetpeas 3 years ago