it always struck me that he was a dirty player who made up for his lack of skill by trying to upset others - a spoiler. He was also pretty good at stabbing the last England manager in the back by saying that there was a lack of team spirit at the last world cup. Now he is spoiling the whole team by being a crap manager
felt a bit sorry for johnson. he seemed a bit hurt when everyone picked him out as the dirtiest player. ive never thought he was as bad as everyone else has. always struck me that he was as like any other second row, until someone did something to him, then he'd lash out
@somerandomer johnson was never a dickhead he just didnt back down to confrontation which is how you want players to be and he had some skill but also a brillianty brain
agree with that. scott quinnel once said that if johnson asked him to run through a wall he would do it, but it would be easy because there would be a big hole where johnson had just run through it aswell.
i've been watching since the 60's, and these have most impressed: Gareth Edwards Michael Jones Colin Meads Barry John Mark Ella David Campese Jonah Lomu John Eales Serge Blanco Zinzan Brooke Richie McCaw.... Gareth Edwards was the complete player, with pace, power, a great try-scorer, controlled games with his kicking and tactical know-how, won on Lions tours of NZ and SA, central to Wales' grand slam teams- the Pelé of Rugby.
what about Lynagh, Burke, O'Driscoll, Cullen, Lathem? I'd have them all before McCaw or Lomu. Lomu was a little 1 dimensional for me. Nice list though
Jonah Lomu was a fine player who captured the world's imagination. But was he the best ever? Not by a large margin. I'll give one simple statistic to back this up: he never scored a try against the Springboks in 12 tests. Truly great players - Michael Jones, Campese, Zinzan, Eales, Martin Johnson, Dan Carter - shine against all opposition in all types of playing conditions. Running over Mike Catt doesn't make you great, gents. (Did enjoy that moment immensely, though.)
I see your point that Habana scored the same as Lomu so you think he is just as good. But the difference was for Habana you would sort of need someone to set it up (most of the time). Lomu you could just chuck him the ball let it roll on the floor and do all this slopy shit and he would pick it up and score. If you watch video's of him you will see what I meen they just give him a shit ball n he scores.
bryan habana is shit compared to lomu, all he has is pace and average ball skills and an average step, he needs people to set him up then he runs down the line (most of the time) and he's a bad tackler, havce you seen habana crunch somebody? ever? no. didn't think so.
Don't know about skill and vision, I think he's all pace...not a small thing but I don't see him off-loading like Campese or any of the truely great backs.
how can everyone leave out gareth edwards he scored the best try (with help )of all time and he was the best, george greagan is up there but watch him play and you will see what i mean
i understand how u guys all pick lomu, but no offense, he wasnt that skillfull, he was just big and very fast, in rugby there is never a star player, of coures there are some that stand out, but its a team game
Greatest backs Lomu/Campese/Barry John/Mark Ella, greatest forwards McCaw/Brooke/Eales, greatest captain Martin Johnson. Rugby is not a game that allows the nomination of just one player as the 'greatest'. The job descriptions, even in the backs, are very different.
Maybe with ball in hand, defensively he is one of the worst players ever, never really did any work in the rucks or mauls either. I agree with eskimosandcrates, hard to pick one single player, however best captain ever easily goes to John Eales, retired with A full trophy cabinet, every possible trophy/shield/cup that Australia could hold they held when he retired.
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He DID ask for the players around the table. I think these guys are just hysterical together.
capowable 2 months ago
Gavin Hastings deserves a mention.
MobKnowledge 5 months ago 2
zinny, most talented player , could play anywhere
jrwright80 5 months ago
It was actually martin johnson who won player of the century two in 2009
timogesbase 10 months ago
Gareth Edwards was the greatest.
mizofan 1 year ago
@mizofan defo, but they were talking about the greatest in a world cup
TDaViEzZ1994 11 months ago
@mizofan i agree, edwards any day. but they were talking about the greatest player in a world cup
TDaViEzZ1994 11 months ago
This English host is an annoying little cunt
Tehui1974 1 year ago
some bloke just mentioned Lathem in the same sentence as Lynagh Cullen and O'driscoll.
funny
toasting 1 year ago
Eales. Best by far
prac2 1 year ago 3
Brian o'driscoll?best center in the world atm?
faithlegg 1 year ago
it always struck me that he was a dirty player who made up for his lack of skill by trying to upset others - a spoiler. He was also pretty good at stabbing the last England manager in the back by saying that there was a lack of team spirit at the last world cup. Now he is spoiling the whole team by being a crap manager
220467NZ 2 years ago
@220467NZ
"a dirty player who made up for his lack of skill by trying to upset others - a spoiler"
those sorts of players don't captain world cup winning teams and winning lions tours.
somerandomer 1 year ago
felt a bit sorry for johnson. he seemed a bit hurt when everyone picked him out as the dirtiest player. ive never thought he was as bad as everyone else has. always struck me that he was as like any other second row, until someone did something to him, then he'd lash out
somerandomer 2 years ago
@somerandomer johnson was never a dickhead he just didnt back down to confrontation which is how you want players to be and he had some skill but also a brillianty brain
OMCZ123 1 year ago
@OMCZ123
agree with that. scott quinnel once said that if johnson asked him to run through a wall he would do it, but it would be easy because there would be a big hole where johnson had just run through it aswell.
somerandomer 1 year ago
Sella triple speed at 1:08 is just amazing
dropperwazoo 2 years ago
in terms with running with the ball in hand.
JONAH LOMU
thegreatnative 2 years ago
mizofan 2 years ago
what about Lynagh, Burke, O'Driscoll, Cullen, Lathem? I'd have them all before McCaw or Lomu. Lomu was a little 1 dimensional for me. Nice list though
jkino78 2 years ago
..and lets not forget Van der Vesthausen, maybe the best no.9 after Edwards
jkino78 2 years ago
Jonah Lomu was a fine player who captured the world's imagination. But was he the best ever? Not by a large margin. I'll give one simple statistic to back this up: he never scored a try against the Springboks in 12 tests. Truly great players - Michael Jones, Campese, Zinzan, Eales, Martin Johnson, Dan Carter - shine against all opposition in all types of playing conditions. Running over Mike Catt doesn't make you great, gents. (Did enjoy that moment immensely, though.)
janswanepoel 2 years ago
I see your point that Habana scored the same as Lomu so you think he is just as good. But the difference was for Habana you would sort of need someone to set it up (most of the time). Lomu you could just chuck him the ball let it roll on the floor and do all this slopy shit and he would pick it up and score. If you watch video's of him you will see what I meen they just give him a shit ball n he scores.
RedBullgivYaWings 2 years ago
They matched for the most tries. But while Habana was playing he had no issue's. Lomu was playing while he was seriously ill.
RedBullgivYaWings 2 years ago
Bryan habanna he matched lomu in the record with the most tries in a world cup and hes got loads of skill and vision
wrenchyify 2 years ago
bryan habana is shit compared to lomu, all he has is pace and average ball skills and an average step, he needs people to set him up then he runs down the line (most of the time) and he's a bad tackler, havce you seen habana crunch somebody? ever? no. didn't think so.
moomooman137 2 years ago 2
Don't know about skill and vision, I think he's all pace...not a small thing but I don't see him off-loading like Campese or any of the truely great backs.
jkino78 2 years ago
how can everyone leave out gareth edwards he scored the best try (with help )of all time and he was the best, george greagan is up there but watch him play and you will see what i mean
jdw7890 2 years ago
i understand how u guys all pick lomu, but no offense, he wasnt that skillfull, he was just big and very fast, in rugby there is never a star player, of coures there are some that stand out, but its a team game
MrBodyboarder64 2 years ago 2
Jonah Lomu is the greatest. but size wise it would have to be George Gregan.
thecallan0007 2 years ago
greatest player ever........tighthead prop
maorionly 2 years ago
greatest player ever, the one and only lomu
maccy809 2 years ago
Greatest backs Lomu/Campese/Barry John/Mark Ella, greatest forwards McCaw/Brooke/Eales, greatest captain Martin Johnson. Rugby is not a game that allows the nomination of just one player as the 'greatest'. The job descriptions, even in the backs, are very different.
eskimosandcrates 2 years ago
Maybe with ball in hand, defensively he is one of the worst players ever, never really did any work in the rucks or mauls either. I agree with eskimosandcrates, hard to pick one single player, however best captain ever easily goes to John Eales, retired with A full trophy cabinet, every possible trophy/shield/cup that Australia could hold they held when he retired.
BroomeBlocker3 2 years ago
he is not poor defnsively
maccy809 2 years ago
jonah lomu
UHtiger 2 years ago
mamuka GORGODZE !!! just watch his maches in montpelie he is STRONGEST and BEST PLAYER EVER !!
ulumboeli 2 years ago
greatest player???....JONAH LOMU.
thedread85 2 years ago
Gareth Edwards!
Vulcanshield 2 years ago
Johnny wilkinson
kilnostart 2 years ago
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mizofan 3 years ago
Stirling mortlock!
rwc20071 3 years ago
Gareth Edwards by a country mile
93elmes 3 years ago
that was useless,they just talked about each other.
SouthStags88 3 years ago 4
Thats because the question was "Who is the greatest player around this table!!"
megalania62 2 years ago
Without doubt it has to be Nat Lofthouse.
tnsandland 3 years ago
Has to be Rupeni Caucaunibuca
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corey72723 3 years ago
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best player ever is daniel carter
mrgod06 3 years ago
jomu lomu
mutanturtle 3 years ago 2
I agree with back row man. The ZINNI ZANNY was special. He was unlucky not to win a second world cup in 95, coz the Boks were lucky.
I am Bok supporter..
mkwapower 3 years ago
no best in da world is ither johnny becux he make ppl around him play beter when hes on or jason robinon or richard hill becuz of his natural skill
gangster2triggaz 4 years ago
r u english by ne chance?
scarletsfan91 3 years ago
theycallmedubey... haha... as if O'driscoll wud be ur first pick in your fantasy XV lol.
dennyh86 4 years ago
bro the best in the world is easily michael jones
FREASHoffDAshelf07 4 years ago
O Driscoll
miles ahead of the rest
theycallmedubey 4 years ago
none of them r good [except zinny] johnah lomu and christian cullen are da best
bverlin 4 years ago
But when Eales and Zinny were on the same field ultimately the aussies would win?
retinalprosthesis 4 years ago
Back slapping program...and pointless. Not one picked a player outside the studio, or for that matter out of their era..daft.
WELLBRAN 4 years ago
Thats because he says'whos the best player around the table', not best ever
ejg28 4 years ago
OK, even so, a daft idea/concept for a TV program, that was my main beef.
WELLBRAN 4 years ago
Zinni, a number 8 who can slot a 50 yard drop goal. Nuff siad.....
backrowman 4 years ago
The Ice Man - Mike Jones!
badboymike81 4 years ago
Joel Stransky
TheMoose4433 4 years ago
campo... eales
tekinoztralia 4 years ago
come on...Zinny is the Best Ever. no debate about it.
AllBlacksFan78 4 years ago