Wu Ying Hwa Wu taichi long form

[rogerashton82]

Love this form. It's so hard to find the form I practice and she does it with great concentration and vitality. Thanks so much.

[boingbryan1981]

goood



[deadlypete1]

meaning position 97 step up to seven stars 98 step back to ride tiger 99 turn body slap face palm..etc

[deadlypete1]

missing the last 10 steps of the original long form from 97 to 108 great video thou

[Niccomawf]

Cool. The video - Early Wu style Taijiquan (1937) - is easier to see and I think this is what I'm learning

[Niccomawf]

This is the most complete video I've found of the specific taichi form I am currently studying... It's... so... grainy!

[Lywald]

Stupid editing

[deflotus]

Thanks for posting this.

[Loyaute]

I wouldn't say Wu style is is simple. The long forms are quite complex, but the movements are smaller than Chen or Yang.

Also, the Wu style weapons forms tend to be longer and more complicated than in the other styles.

Of course, everyone is selling simplified short forms these days, but even the better ones are for wushu competitions and demos, not martial training.

[nanhuazhenren]

I can only partly agree.

The modern forms don´t have the traditional content anymore, that´s right, still a good master should be able to reintroduce the principles and neigong aspects into the forms.

[MDIS]

From what some "martial artist" have been spreading about taiji .

Chen being very explosive and long.

Yang being a simplified form of Chen

with jumps and hard soft movements.

Wu being simplest than the Yang Style.

Wu Yuxiang being compact and sturdy.

Sun being quick and dexterous in movements.

I believe that each system relied on the masters body frame , dexterity , martial skill and ingenious understanding of their usage of Taiji.

[ChimiHoffa]

Not sure why my comments floated up to the top since I was replying to individuals, but one was meant for Loyaute and the other for JasonK2210.

[jasonk2210]

Does anybody know where else on youtube can I find this style of Wu? All the other Wu styles I find are different,but this is the one I am learning now. And is there anybody else learning this style also?

[ChimiHoffa]

I learned this one once a couple of years ago. I'm also looking for some refresher videos, but haven't had much luck. I have a DVD of Grandmaster Leung Shum doing this, but it's tough to watch because it's not very well made.

[Kostas1121]

i m also practicing this style,although some of the movements aren't just the same as his..just small details though..

[pookiedacat]

really good, The short frameof this form makes it feel right and the Qi just flows from there...

[gkundo]

i don't quite understand. this is the long form right? what is the long form that i hear about that apparently averages out to 45 minutes? cuz this one is done in 11 minutes. is madame wu just doing it a little faster? or the camera? or what? and is there any instructional videos or stuff on her long form?

[gkundo]

nvm

[Loyaute]

Yeah, it is the long form, but she is doing it relatively quickly for demonstration purposes.

The speed is up to the practitioner, you can go faster or slower, and different speeds have different health benefits. In the winter, if you want a nice warming form, do 30-45 minutes. In summer, when you want to work on coordination and circulation, do a 20-10 minute form.

People even do forms faster than that, but it starts to look a little different, a "fast form".

[btglynn]

There is no form in this style that takes 45 minutes, maybe 20 at most

[Loyaute]

Well, that's what the Wu family teachers taught me. Maybe modern teachers don't want to be bothered. It's up to you how fast you train it. If you don't want to work your control and concentration, that's your business. When I was younger, we would even do 1 hour forms! Wu Jianquan said "the slower the better."

[ChimiHoffa]

Yes! I've learned it the same way. We'd often do this form and it would take 30-40 minutes. People don't have the patience for slow, internal training these days, do they?

[Loyaute]

I know Wu style people from Shanghai, Hong Kong and Singapore/Malaysia. They are good students and nice people, an argument on youtube shouldn't discourage folks from studying at any of these places.

[JianChuanTaiChi]

Loyaute Thank you for explaining the history! I could not have said it any better.

There is no reason for anyone practicing Wu Style to be divisive as it is one happy family. The exeption are some of their rogue students who may make ridiculous claims of grandeur.

[OldWuStyle]

so you say there is no reason for division, and in the same paragraph give a reason for division.

hmmm.

interesting.

says a lot.

[Barboteur]

Yeah, thank you for posting.

You cannot imagine my happiness. I learnt almost exactly this form 10 years ago. It was my first Tai Chi. Although I now practice daily Yang and Chen forms I LOVE this WU form for its sobriety which enables wonderful work with Chi. I'll never leave it! I didn't know that "my" form was so near from the origins of the style! Many thanks to my master too!

[Loyaute]

None of these masters had any problem with this. Good Taijiquan is good Taijiquan, no matter the emphasis. Only later students whose skills were inferior tried to create divisions by saying one "style" (always theirs) is better than another.

[Loyaute]

Even Jianquan and his oldest son Gongyi's forms were quite different. So, the students started to say, this style or that style, using the names of the people they were referencing.

[Loyaute]

So, for 14 years Wu Jianquan, his sons Wu Gongyi, Wu Gongzao and his son-in-law Ma Yueliang, as well as Yang Shaohou, Yang Chengfu and Sun Lutang were all traning and teaching in the same place. None of them had identical forms. The most well documented of the group; Wu Jianquan, Sun Lutang and especially Yang Chengfu had forms which looked different from each other.

[Loyaute]

After the emperor abdicated in 1912, the Yang brothers and Jianquan opened the Beijing Physical Culture Institute to promote Taijiquan to the public in order to preserve traditional Chinese culture during a time of political instability and foreign oppression. Also accepting an invitation to teach there was the famous Sun Lutang, whose mastery of Xingyiquan and Baguazhang had a significant influence on the development of later Wu style.

[Loyaute]

Wu Quanyuo learned from Yang Luchan and Yang Banhou starting in 1850. He was made Yang Banhou's number 1 disciple. In 1870, Quanyuo was given permission by his teachers to take his own disciples and open his own school. That was also the year his son, Wu Jianquan, was born. Wu Jianquan grew up surrounded by Taijiquan masters of his age, among his friends were Yang Shaohou and Yang Chengfu.

[Loyaute]

Originally, there wasn't a distinction made between styles of Taijiquan. Wu Yanxia said in a 1995 interview that from 1914 to 1928 it was students at the Beijing Physical Culture Institute who made the distinction between Yang and Wu styles, not the teachers, to describe differences they saw in the forms they were being taught.

[mazorblock]

Don't be too concerned about the lineage or the label given to the type of movement you are doing.There are plethora Tai Chi and the structures of the form are all different. Circulation of the chi should be your main aim. The form you have chosen has to be practiced over and over again until you don't have to think about it, then one can concentrate more on drawing the nei dan chi round the body.

[JianChuanTaiChi]

Yes Tsabdivad. This form was passed by Yang Lu Chan and his Son Yang Ban Hou to First generation Wu Quan You. It is essentially the same 108 form you see taught by 6th generation Wu family.

[TSABDIVAD]

Oh yeah. The strange thing that I forgot to mention is that the form I'm learning is considered to be Yang style, not Wu. It looks like the order of the movements are the same, but the way they are performed is much different. (1 of 2)

[TSABDIVAD]

They way the movement are done in our form look different enough that I don't think it is a Wu style rip off, but I think that could be a possibility too. I guess if what I'm learning is effective, it really doesn't matter if the history is authentic, but it would be interesting to know.

[TSABDIVAD]

Sorry if I posted this twice...

This is the closest I've seen to the form I'm learning, which I can't seem to find anywhere. The instructor claims a lineage to Yang Ban Hou who I understand taught the founder of Wu style. It seems the movements are similar, but ours are much more exaggerated. This video adds credibility to my instructor's claims. Thanks for uploading!

[JianChuanTaiChi]

Current Wu Family Gate Keeper GM Eddie Wu and his sons have almost the same form. 6 Generations no change is excellent.

[Joekilroy68]

I studied in Huddersfield UK with her grand-daughter, Ye Jin. It's exactly the same as the form we did.

She was friendly with Dan's ex-wife and spoke highly of both him and his version of the form, which was close as mentioned above.

[sticktogolf]

I was taught by Sophia Delza who learned from Ma Liang, Wu Ying-Hua's husband. This is the original style taught by her father. Sophia's "version" is very similar, with variations, all of which she may have been taught by Mr. Ma.

[emeraldforest]

wonderful ! thanks for sharing! xie xie :)

this must be 108 steps (%)

[daoistviewer]

This is nigh on identical to the form done by Dan Docherty's guys in London (England), minor stylisic differences but all the moves in the right place.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Note that the Wu Family do not seem to teach this form, so it is likely to be an older form.

[sporty05]

Excellent vintage Wu footage.

[Joninsho]

awesome

[BritishRacingGreen]

Image quality isn't good, but as somebody who is learning Wu Style, this is quite interesting. The form in this video is close to what I have been taught. I have seen in some books, the movements are somewhat different or in a different order. So even in Wu-Style there are differences.

[amber1x1x1]

If you wanted a 'definative' video of the Wu style form this would probably be it. She is said to have stayed very close to her fathers form. (Compare this to photos of Wu Chien Chuan's form)

[hawkwindthinman]

You can get the Wu gold book from the Wu family website, it has photos of both forms.

[amber1x1x1]

Or find a copy of the Wu Style 'Orange Book' by Wu Ying Hua & Ma Yueh Liang. It has photos of Wu Chien Chuan's form and Wu Ying Hua's.