YOU ARE A TRUE INSPIRATION TO ME! i hope you dont mind, but i used this as my freshman speech. I WON! thank you, Dan, for being my inspiration and my hero. of course i will recognize you in my winning speech. all of the credit goes to you, my friend. keep doing what you are doing. loveya! ;D
Very motivating. Your vocabulary, pronunciation, and easily able to be understood conjunctions of your address nourishes those who needs a leader of your mentality. A refreshingly innovative and new voice-of-reason representing the liberation gay peoples from the horridly desired partitioning of unilateral uncompetent fools who oppose differing sexuality- in essence I support you as the quintessential promulgation as the proper combatant against the unbelievers of a united kingdom. Bensoir
I have no business in ur bedroom or life & therefore don't mind how u choose 2 live it, freewill. I have friends/family I may not feel the same about as far as their beliefs etc. I do not want gay marriage 2 be passed because it will effect everyone. Gay realtionships will be taught to my kindergarteners, they effect the economy (taxes, social security etc) & were does this stop...next people will want to marry their mother, father, sister brother, pet or object.
People have gay tendencies... they can choose if they will act on them. Sorry but gay is not who you are. There are different tendencies and weakness that I have, being a mortal... I do my best to keep them in check. I don't try to justify my weaknesses and say... this is who I am.
"Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power"-Lao-tzu
Again I appreciate how civil the video is, and I hope it can continue.
saying you have gay friends does not manke you any less of a bigot that being said you are raising you're objections in a more civil was than usual being gay is not a choice you can't control who you fall in love with why would somone in a place where homosexuality is illegal still be gay and risk the death penalty and this is showing weakness i don't think so
this doesn't merit a response, but I digress. How old are you? Your post adds no value to the discussion. Please if you are going to post, post something, at least add to the discussion. To the previous poster who is more respectable... I am not a bigot. I have opinions that differ from yours, I do not treat anyone with intolerance and I hate no one. Which according to Merrium and Webster means I am not a bigot. As I perviously mentioned I have gay friends whom I respect and love.
All this being said I have gay friends. I respect them and hope the best for them. I respect you and your opinion. I hope that there can be great respect for differing ideas in the world.
I don't believe that this is a civil rights issue. I think that gays should have the same tax benefits etc. but there are still somethings I don't believe they should be able to do. Namely adopt children. I honestly believe that being gay is a lifestyle choice... I believe that some people are born with gay tendencies, but in the most respectful way I can say is I think it is like tendencies people have towards alcohol.
There are certain lifestyle choices I could make that would relinquish
*sigh* another person who thinks its a choice to be gay...Im gay, and I certainly didnt choose to be this way, I was born this way and have no control over changing it. By saying that its a choice you believe that you have control over it, which im afraid I dont.
Interesting ideas. I think your strongest point is that by fighting what you are calling discrimination you are helping those who you believe to be discriminating, so they are not discriminating against. I appreciate your non-combative response and expression of opinion.
I however strongly disagree with gay marriage. I also think it is very hypocritical what many many anti-prop 8 people are doing. Especially targeting the mormons, making them a scapegoat. I digress.
Excuse me? The mormons targeted gay couples. The mormons made gay people the scapegoat. Did you SEE those commercials? They were absurd. LGBTQ and the supporting community have only retaliated against them. They pointed fingers, and now they are having that favor returned.
show one video made by mormons or the mormon church that attacked gay couples. Do you actually know what the anti-prop 8 people have done in front of mormon temples? and the kinds of things that they have said? No, mormons and the Mormon church have not done anything of the sort.
For example the Latina women who were not members of the mormon church that pulled of some of the hateful signs from a mormon temple, who were then beaten by the crowd of anti-prop 8 people. So don't be stupid!
wow that was a great truthfull message. i applaud that even though people can give you the idea you're second class, you dont hold a grudge and keep seeing the big picture. if we accept the challenge and go to the same level, this will turn into a war, and wars have no winners and wont help people in moving forward.
What is it with *America*? Every group must fight to gain the very rights which are claimed to be self-evident by the very words which make this nation a nation.
gays have same rights as straight people. to marry of the opposite sex...they are asking for more rights, a special privilage. gays can do whatever we can do, nothing extra and vice versa...giving extra privilages is unConstitutional, kiddo!
thats jsut a stupid thing to say and you know it. just like years ago when it was debated if people from diffrent races could marry eachother. we now all know its stupid to think diffrent races cant get maried, but you can still say: we all had the right to marry our own race, so we shouldnt give extra privilages. the privilage we get shouldnt be marry the other sexe, but to marry SOMEONE. its not a special privilage to gay people, its one big privilage to anyone, so anyone can get married
if it i thought it was stupid i wouldn't have said it...I used logic. on paper, everything is equal, and as a black person, i feel it's stupid for you to use race as a desperate attempt at an argument, seeing as how we didn't choose to be black, and we can still reproduce naturally...gays chose to be gay and can't reproduce naturally...where's your logic, kid?
lol, you lost your battle there:P. you do no chose to be gay, you are born gay. trust me, i know. what does reproducing hve to do with it? that way yu would also say that you should not marry a woman that is not able to get children.
speaking of "desprate attempts", you try to put yourself above me by calling me kid all the time, though its abvious to me that i see much clearer then you. in any case i know much more about what being gay is the you.
also, all I'm trying to say is don't bring up the race card cause it's not the same. Not The Same...don't ever put me and my race in a category with gays, okay? I don't have a problem with gays, just your comment and giving them extra privilages
I think that you have a myopic view of the "oppression hierarchy" which is an abominable concept in and of itself, but which you appear to consider yourself to be at the top of, which is why it must be addressed even at the risk of myself being accused of claiming the crown.
Homosexuality was a capital offense in Europe from about 390 AD onward. In various countries including the US, it was either a capital crime or a felony into the 20th century.
Listen, I do not have ANY problem with gays! I don't consider myself above anybody. I have gay friends!! However, I am entitled to believe that they shouldn't be allowed any extra special privilages. We live in a democratic republic. I'm allowed to vote. Living in So Cal, I spoke with my vote in favor of prop 8. It's just your view of discrimmination is different from mine. Everyone had a chance to exercise their rights, everyone spoke. Be civil about it, guys come on!
You have a right to vote and it was hard won not too long ago, it doesn't excuse using that vote to discriminate.
You probably experience more discrimination than I do, the difference is that the discrimination against you isn't supported by laws, churches, and the culture.
I don't experience any discrimination actually...and I'm black living in a 95% white town (prob b/c I don't act like other blacks), but anyway, my gay friends say the same things as you...that's fine, we disagree but i still love them b/c they're my friends. you have your opinion i have mine, let's just move on and get some, okay? when it's all said and done we are all safe, healthy and alive. Peace, darling!
Ask them that...I'm just not YOUR friend. Believe me, I'm 100% okay with that! They understand how I was raised and accept me for it anyway, just as I accept them regardless of our different lifestyles...I know it may be hard for you to understand, I voted yes, I still have ALL my friends. That's what loyalty, love, and acceptance mean. Taking the person as is and befriending them regardless. I'm not looking for your approval or friendship...I have plenty, thanks!
Discrimination to what vote, use a public restroom like anyone else, go to certain resturants? Can you please explain to me the discrimination? I guess I am confused. If you are talking about how others treat you as far as in public or something, being able to marry would not change that. U r not made to sit on the back of the bus or anything the blacks, jews, women were discriminated on are you? I guess I am confused, u can live w & sleep with who or what u want to.
If the civil rights movement were simply about sitting in the back of the bus, we wouldn't be having this conversation. You seem to still want to play the oppression hierarchy game, and this isn't a game. Thanks for sharing.
u are right these issues wont go away just because we get the vote but if we are not trated as though we are good people worthy of rights then we will never be treated that way
There r a lot of people who r picked on at school, & yes there should b people standing up 4 u as w any child. Same thing w a funeral, police should have been called & they should have been arrested. What American dream r u denied? People have a choice 2 pick a roomate, who is stopping u from holding hands, I c it all the time??? My aunt & her partner have a child, it is a boy but they have a child all the same. This is not the same as how gays, jew, women etc have been treated...denied rights.
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Friend: A person whom 1 knows, likes & trusts. The American Heritage Dictionary. You can make up any definition that u want, just like sleeping w whom u want or doing what u want w the other consenting adult. If I knew 1 of my friends was having sex w a 14 yr old, I would have a problem w it. That is not discrimination. Just because someone thinks something that u do is not morally right or they don't agree w u do does not make that discrimination.
The bottom line is this: The people who hate the most, all seem to name blacks, jews, and gays. The KKK, the Aryans, the Church of the Creator, the Army of God. So are you telling me that they're wrong about blacks and jews, but right about gay people?
im not putting groups in the same category, i was saying its the same issue, and i still think it is. and like i said, i alsodont see itas extra privilages, i see prop 8 as taking away human rights. thas my view because i think that if you marry you marry that person out of love, not because its someone of a diffrent sex. if that perosn being of a diffrent sex isnt a motivation to marry him/her, imo it shouldnt be a reason not to allow someone to marry him/her either.
I hear what you're saying & appreciate you being civil about it, a lot more words get through that way, unlike some people on here! Anyway, what you are saying does make sense to a certain extent, but you also have to understand that I was raised 20 yrs in the Christian church (I'm 20). I do understand separation of Ch&St, however, I can't erase all that I've been taught. Some people just cant do it. If prop 8 failed, I'd accept my friends victory & move on even if it's against my beliefs.
cant deny that that affects our judgement greatly. if youve ben raised in the christian chruh for 20 years then you should be lucy with the way you see things:P, man people think pretty extreme about these sort of things
I do not believe that gay marriage as a right or should I say that people against it are discriminating. I have no problem w what anyone does in their bedroom/home. I do have a problem w what they want 2 teach very young children (incl mine in K) I had at 1 time thought maybe they can call it a union etc (marriage I guess thought should b reserved 4 a man & a woman), next we will want 2 marry our mom, dad, sis, bro, pet or object. What limit would there b? Also as far as econo, social sec etc
Exactly! They use the argument that sexual diversity exists, but they fail to realize that so does pedophilia, incest, etc... and none of these are okay. Its like a 50 yr old, wanting to marry his 15 yr old girlfriend w/o parental consent. Its just not going to happen. We absolutely cannot run this country based on feelings. There must be a line drawn somewhere & they get every privilage possible to the rest of us, they just want redefinition of the morals we've upheld proudly in this country.
There are right and wrong morals. Gay morals is wrong. Should we allow child porn, sibling matrimony, beastiality to change our morals? Is that where we are headed? There is nothing immoral about being born, black, white, etc. You want to make your sexual habits into something right. I'm not going to contribute to the downfall of this country. I will vote against gay marriage every time, as it is I won the battle and am very pleased w/ myself... I just wish McCain had won..
do not compare homosexuals to pedophiles. Sex between 2 consenting human adults is not immoral
Having sex with a sibling is really just more natural unhealthy...ya know genes and such. Also, may i remind u, you didnt win the battle. In the past election gay marriage was made legal in Connecticut, we have an openly gay congressman & a heterosexual African American congressman who fully supports gay rights. So yes im afraid the old ways will fade and so shall you
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Exactly! Someone could b born 2 be prone 2 rape or have a thing 4 young children, doesn't make it right! The line needs to get drawn, no to marriage of same sex, of marriage to animals, of marriage to family members etc. It is wrong morally & it is not what marriage was based on.
These latest events have made me happy to live in Canada, the true land of the free. Yet while I am happy that I am considered a full citizen while being gay, I am also reminded that the rights which we hold dear can very easily be taken away. Indeed, when our government legalized gay marriage, we had a revote similar to that in California. And while we voted in favour of keeping gay marriage, the margin was not a comfy mile. Those who hate us should watch some xmen and shut the hell up.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Canada is quite capable of defending herself should the need ever arise. And this notion that you are somehow protecting us from the big bad wolf a less than subtle cover for stealing our natural resources. Indeed, sometimes I often wonder if Canada will be the next country to be accused of possessing "weapons of mass destruction".
Further more, unlike our U.S. brethren, Canada truly accepts everyone as equal, regardless of age, sex, race, or sexual orientation. We are a country that embraces diversity on all levels.
Hmmm.. I live there yet couldn't disagree more. Fundamentally what you are saying is correct, however in practise that is not the case. You must be in the bubble?
I assure you the Canadian military is not large enough to defend the vast lands of Canada alone by itself. The military is not staged to be a measure of solo defence or of offense or deterrent. It is designed as an allied force.
As with so many things in life, the product maybe less than the ideal, but this end result is far greater than that which is seen in the United States.
As for the other issue of Canada's military, I will not go in depth with such a discussion, as I have confirmed via your profile that you are canadian, and are therefore ignorant of reality, or simply ommitting reality to suite your purpose.
lawrence5584:I feel the need to correct your comment about the vote in Canada's Parliament. The vote was saying whether or not the issue of same-sex marriage should be re-opened for debate, but it wasn't a vote on gay marriage itself. If it had passed, which it didn't, legalized gay marriage would have still been happening. I guess there would have been another vote after that on same-sex marriage itself. Then legal battles, if any moves to take it away had passed.
I apologize. Perhaps I was jumping the gun slightly. My point was to show that, inspite of the fact that this issue was decided, just as it was in California, the government attempted to open the issue up again. Whether it would have led to a vote banning gay marriage is anyone's guess. The fact remains that the issue that was supposidly dealt with was none the less brought back up, and that made me and many others very uncomfortable.
No problem. Actually, this happened a while ago in Canada, so is fuzzy in memory. I should have said, if the vote passed to re-open debate, and they rejected gay marriage on a second vote; I don't think it would have an any effect, unless a vote came up to actually define it as a man and a woman. Then there would have been legal battles. Complicated! It shows that people will go to ridiculous lengths to try to defend something irrational like discrimination.
i think we should unite all groups of different ore gen together because that way everyone of us will get what we want as a nation united we stand divided we fall
a wonderful message that everyone should hear no matter where you live in the USA and regardless of your orientation. all rights have to be fought for, and silence from the minorities has never won anything.
Well said. I am for gay rights. And for those guys that protest anti-gay rights, how do you think women feel when you want to stick the dick up our assholes. If you ask me you are on the verge of being a wanna-be gay yourself. Sorry for the terrible outburst, but these kinds of people piss me off.
nice... if anyone pleae could tell me what this prop. 8 is about? Im from mexico so I am not that well informed about california´s legislature, anyway, anyone plis tell me!
Beautifully said. Perhaps the public view of our fellow American's oppression will serve to bring about a quicker end. It is one thing to be a bigot in private and another to publicly state it for all the world to see. This not meant to be hateful but the terrible fires in California would have been blamed on God's wrath by the right wing if Prop 8 had been defeated. But somehow is not His wrath because it was passed. Just a thought. Peace.
i need 2 find a rally in NJ thats close 2 toms river...i made a like 20 shirts 4 me and m,y friends and we can only where them in school...but enough of that
I read in the LA Times today that an avalanche of lawsuits are being prepared to challenge the outcome of the recent voting on Prop. 8. This whole issue is far from over. This is just the beginning.
Once again you've given us your enriching commentary, rationality, and passionate spirit. This, and so many of your videos, is pure gold, and I appreciate your willingness to share your thoughts.
Wow...
Unforgiven1231 3 months ago
Loved your Slam Poetry
InvisibleRedEye 7 months ago
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shut up u flaming faggot shit eater
SarahJoe21 11 months ago
o.o I'd like to know your opnion on the Pastor Long case <.< Just for fun.
jekal5M 1 year ago
are you saying your gonna fight to stop them from fighting ? i was confuesd but thats what it sounded like to me
onebigmess253 1 year ago
This is poetry.
6142 1 year ago
YOU ARE A TRUE INSPIRATION TO ME! i hope you dont mind, but i used this as my freshman speech. I WON! thank you, Dan, for being my inspiration and my hero. of course i will recognize you in my winning speech. all of the credit goes to you, my friend. keep doing what you are doing. loveya! ;D
pigflavacandy 2 years ago
Awesome! I LOVE it... Well DONE
teatyme12 2 years ago
god, you're awesome.
kanamesenpaixxx 2 years ago 2
how old are you
gaarasangel123 2 years ago
i like this guy
but not sexually LOL-_-
matrixspawn2009 2 years ago
i like him both ways. :)
JimmySaurusREXXX 2 years ago 2
Very motivating. Your vocabulary, pronunciation, and easily able to be understood conjunctions of your address nourishes those who needs a leader of your mentality. A refreshingly innovative and new voice-of-reason representing the liberation gay peoples from the horridly desired partitioning of unilateral uncompetent fools who oppose differing sexuality- in essence I support you as the quintessential promulgation as the proper combatant against the unbelievers of a united kingdom. Bensoir
Crazyjp13 2 years ago 4
Dan be a motivational speaker, and any other type of speaker because you rock!
knails 2 years ago 8
want to protect the sanctity of marriage? Ban heterosexual divorce and remarriage and divorce and remarriage...
cameraboi1229 2 years ago
stunning. well done you!
Greetings from Peru.
wildiwild 2 years ago
STOP OVERPOPULATION BAN STRAIGHT MARRIAGE
:) sorry for the probably incorrect spelling
emptybliss2 2 years ago 2
ummm.. i think you are missing the point.
XXRoseWeedXX 2 years ago 2
very nice . your videos are all really good keep doing what you do
hornplayer69 2 years ago
You're a real hero. Keep being amazing.
pickledash 2 years ago 6
You are awesome.
userjosh9874 2 years ago 3
wow nice.you're amazing<3
babe5786 2 years ago
stunning
respect
bertquirijnen 2 years ago 2
Wow! What a statement, mate! Well done you!!!
InSomNYaQ 3 years ago 3
That was really good. Thank you for addressing this issue, you are great and I love watching your videos because some of them are inspiring. 5/5
sasukevsnaruto101 3 years ago
Good thoughts - try not to read from the cue cards too much though, its distracting. =)
MarcusDee27 3 years ago 3
i would stand beside you and fight. for you, for me, and for them. . . keep fighting for the right to be equal. . . you inspire me!
cniddrie 3 years ago 5
I totally agree with you! :)
dutchkevin90 3 years ago 5
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Fair enough in standing up for what you believe in.. But you are still fucking annoying..
PooMuncher99 3 years ago
I love how you articulate your thoughts, you do it so well! The whole "force to be reckoned with" part was AWESOME! Keep up the good work cutie!
WagnerDanny 3 years ago
I have no business in ur bedroom or life & therefore don't mind how u choose 2 live it, freewill. I have friends/family I may not feel the same about as far as their beliefs etc. I do not want gay marriage 2 be passed because it will effect everyone. Gay realtionships will be taught to my kindergarteners, they effect the economy (taxes, social security etc) & were does this stop...next people will want to marry their mother, father, sister brother, pet or object.
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
People have gay tendencies... they can choose if they will act on them. Sorry but gay is not who you are. There are different tendencies and weakness that I have, being a mortal... I do my best to keep them in check. I don't try to justify my weaknesses and say... this is who I am.
"Knowing others is intelligence; knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength; mastering yourself is true power"-Lao-tzu
Again I appreciate how civil the video is, and I hope it can continue.
emersive 3 years ago
saying you have gay friends does not manke you any less of a bigot that being said you are raising you're objections in a more civil was than usual being gay is not a choice you can't control who you fall in love with why would somone in a place where homosexuality is illegal still be gay and risk the death penalty and this is showing weakness i don't think so
rosepetal34 3 years ago
dude maybe you are just gay?
it's called being in denial or in the closet
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago
this doesn't merit a response, but I digress. How old are you? Your post adds no value to the discussion. Please if you are going to post, post something, at least add to the discussion. To the previous poster who is more respectable... I am not a bigot. I have opinions that differ from yours, I do not treat anyone with intolerance and I hate no one. Which according to Merrium and Webster means I am not a bigot. As I perviously mentioned I have gay friends whom I respect and love.
emersive 3 years ago
my right to adopt.
All this being said I have gay friends. I respect them and hope the best for them. I respect you and your opinion. I hope that there can be great respect for differing ideas in the world.
emersive 3 years ago
I don't believe that this is a civil rights issue. I think that gays should have the same tax benefits etc. but there are still somethings I don't believe they should be able to do. Namely adopt children. I honestly believe that being gay is a lifestyle choice... I believe that some people are born with gay tendencies, but in the most respectful way I can say is I think it is like tendencies people have towards alcohol.
There are certain lifestyle choices I could make that would relinquish
emersive 3 years ago
*sigh* another person who thinks its a choice to be gay...Im gay, and I certainly didnt choose to be this way, I was born this way and have no control over changing it. By saying that its a choice you believe that you have control over it, which im afraid I dont.
RustyDK 3 years ago
Interesting ideas. I think your strongest point is that by fighting what you are calling discrimination you are helping those who you believe to be discriminating, so they are not discriminating against. I appreciate your non-combative response and expression of opinion.
I however strongly disagree with gay marriage. I also think it is very hypocritical what many many anti-prop 8 people are doing. Especially targeting the mormons, making them a scapegoat. I digress.
emersive 3 years ago
Excuse me? The mormons targeted gay couples. The mormons made gay people the scapegoat. Did you SEE those commercials? They were absurd. LGBTQ and the supporting community have only retaliated against them. They pointed fingers, and now they are having that favor returned.
brettteslaa 3 years ago
show one video made by mormons or the mormon church that attacked gay couples. Do you actually know what the anti-prop 8 people have done in front of mormon temples? and the kinds of things that they have said? No, mormons and the Mormon church have not done anything of the sort.
For example the Latina women who were not members of the mormon church that pulled of some of the hateful signs from a mormon temple, who were then beaten by the crowd of anti-prop 8 people. So don't be stupid!
emersive 3 years ago
Fabulous...
newtsalive 3 years ago
Good points here... Liked your video. Vick
VickVancouver 3 years ago
ur looks soo hot with short hair coz i got the same =D
eightsixpcf 3 years ago
you are a very intellegent young man
nowhereman200 3 years ago
Well said! Wow, I love your eloquence.
QueerLiberation 3 years ago
you are a dead set fukin legend!!!!
DAVEOB76 3 years ago
Thoughtful, intelligent and well said Dan! Thank you for your important message :)
steamspider 3 years ago
hey i have a couple of friends that are gay. another friend told me that they might try to turn me gay. can that happen?
mclaren450 3 years ago
you're born gay, they can't change you into a gay person unless you want to be gay and like men lol/or women, whatever gender you are
razorsrocker991 3 years ago 2
THey are all the same
So E-M-O
jforevermore 3 years ago
wow that was a great truthfull message. i applaud that even though people can give you the idea you're second class, you dont hold a grudge and keep seeing the big picture. if we accept the challenge and go to the same level, this will turn into a war, and wars have no winners and wont help people in moving forward.
loeklovesnightwish 3 years ago
YOU ARE MY GOD ! THANKS YOU !
SgtFracalanza 3 years ago
What is it with *America*? Every group must fight to gain the very rights which are claimed to be self-evident by the very words which make this nation a nation.
"...that all men are created equal
to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness;
with liberty and justice for all,
in the land of the free
and the home of the brave....."
.....someone should
base a nation on these principles.
dodgyhingst 3 years ago
"...that all men are created equal
to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness;
with liberty and justice for all,
in the land of the free
and the home of the brave....."
which makes me wonder if many american people that say those lines over and over again even know what they are saying. good point
loeklovesnightwish 3 years ago
gays have same rights as straight people. to marry of the opposite sex...they are asking for more rights, a special privilage. gays can do whatever we can do, nothing extra and vice versa...giving extra privilages is unConstitutional, kiddo!
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
thats jsut a stupid thing to say and you know it. just like years ago when it was debated if people from diffrent races could marry eachother. we now all know its stupid to think diffrent races cant get maried, but you can still say: we all had the right to marry our own race, so we shouldnt give extra privilages. the privilage we get shouldnt be marry the other sexe, but to marry SOMEONE. its not a special privilage to gay people, its one big privilage to anyone, so anyone can get married
loeklovesnightwish 3 years ago
if it i thought it was stupid i wouldn't have said it...I used logic. on paper, everything is equal, and as a black person, i feel it's stupid for you to use race as a desperate attempt at an argument, seeing as how we didn't choose to be black, and we can still reproduce naturally...gays chose to be gay and can't reproduce naturally...where's your logic, kid?
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
lol, you lost your battle there:P. you do no chose to be gay, you are born gay. trust me, i know. what does reproducing hve to do with it? that way yu would also say that you should not marry a woman that is not able to get children.
speaking of "desprate attempts", you try to put yourself above me by calling me kid all the time, though its abvious to me that i see much clearer then you. in any case i know much more about what being gay is the you.
loeklovesnightwish 3 years ago
i didn't lose my battle, i voted yes and i won...sorry :P
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
also, all I'm trying to say is don't bring up the race card cause it's not the same. Not The Same...don't ever put me and my race in a category with gays, okay? I don't have a problem with gays, just your comment and giving them extra privilages
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
I think that you have a myopic view of the "oppression hierarchy" which is an abominable concept in and of itself, but which you appear to consider yourself to be at the top of, which is why it must be addressed even at the risk of myself being accused of claiming the crown.
Homosexuality was a capital offense in Europe from about 390 AD onward. In various countries including the US, it was either a capital crime or a felony into the 20th century.
There has never been a law against being black.
Gulfporter 3 years ago
Listen, I do not have ANY problem with gays! I don't consider myself above anybody. I have gay friends!! However, I am entitled to believe that they shouldn't be allowed any extra special privilages. We live in a democratic republic. I'm allowed to vote. Living in So Cal, I spoke with my vote in favor of prop 8. It's just your view of discrimmination is different from mine. Everyone had a chance to exercise their rights, everyone spoke. Be civil about it, guys come on!
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
We have different definitions for "friend".
There is nothing civil about discrimination.
There is nothing special about equal.
You have a right to vote and it was hard won not too long ago, it doesn't excuse using that vote to discriminate.
You probably experience more discrimination than I do, the difference is that the discrimination against you isn't supported by laws, churches, and the culture.
Gulfporter 3 years ago
I don't experience any discrimination actually...and I'm black living in a 95% white town (prob b/c I don't act like other blacks), but anyway, my gay friends say the same things as you...that's fine, we disagree but i still love them b/c they're my friends. you have your opinion i have mine, let's just move on and get some, okay? when it's all said and done we are all safe, healthy and alive. Peace, darling!
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
You are not their friend if you voted for Prop 8.
Gulfporter 3 years ago
Ask them that...I'm just not YOUR friend. Believe me, I'm 100% okay with that! They understand how I was raised and accept me for it anyway, just as I accept them regardless of our different lifestyles...I know it may be hard for you to understand, I voted yes, I still have ALL my friends. That's what loyalty, love, and acceptance mean. Taking the person as is and befriending them regardless. I'm not looking for your approval or friendship...I have plenty, thanks!
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
dont run away from the arguement
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago
Discrimination to what vote, use a public restroom like anyone else, go to certain resturants? Can you please explain to me the discrimination? I guess I am confused. If you are talking about how others treat you as far as in public or something, being able to marry would not change that. U r not made to sit on the back of the bus or anything the blacks, jews, women were discriminated on are you? I guess I am confused, u can live w & sleep with who or what u want to.
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
If the civil rights movement were simply about sitting in the back of the bus, we wouldn't be having this conversation. You seem to still want to play the oppression hierarchy game, and this isn't a game. Thanks for sharing.
Gulfporter 3 years ago
Being called FAG! in school being shot in the head at the age of 15 for asking someone to be your valintine
Having your funeral intturupted by protesters holdup up says that say "Matthew Sheppard Burns in HELL"
Being denied the american dream.
Not being able to get a roommate because they think u'll try to rape them
Not being able to hold hand with someone you love in the park
not being able to have kids because they thing u'll raise them to be gay or rape them
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago 3
u are right these issues wont go away just because we get the vote but if we are not trated as though we are good people worthy of rights then we will never be treated that way
our leaders have to set the example
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago
There r a lot of people who r picked on at school, & yes there should b people standing up 4 u as w any child. Same thing w a funeral, police should have been called & they should have been arrested. What American dream r u denied? People have a choice 2 pick a roomate, who is stopping u from holding hands, I c it all the time??? My aunt & her partner have a child, it is a boy but they have a child all the same. This is not the same as how gays, jew, women etc have been treated...denied rights.
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
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Friend: A person whom 1 knows, likes & trusts. The American Heritage Dictionary. You can make up any definition that u want, just like sleeping w whom u want or doing what u want w the other consenting adult. If I knew 1 of my friends was having sex w a 14 yr old, I would have a problem w it. That is not discrimination. Just because someone thinks something that u do is not morally right or they don't agree w u do does not make that discrimination.
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
The bottom line is this: The people who hate the most, all seem to name blacks, jews, and gays. The KKK, the Aryans, the Church of the Creator, the Army of God. So are you telling me that they're wrong about blacks and jews, but right about gay people?
Gulfporter 3 years ago 3
im not putting groups in the same category, i was saying its the same issue, and i still think it is. and like i said, i alsodont see itas extra privilages, i see prop 8 as taking away human rights. thas my view because i think that if you marry you marry that person out of love, not because its someone of a diffrent sex. if that perosn being of a diffrent sex isnt a motivation to marry him/her, imo it shouldnt be a reason not to allow someone to marry him/her either.
loeklovesnightwish 3 years ago
I hear what you're saying & appreciate you being civil about it, a lot more words get through that way, unlike some people on here! Anyway, what you are saying does make sense to a certain extent, but you also have to understand that I was raised 20 yrs in the Christian church (I'm 20). I do understand separation of Ch&St, however, I can't erase all that I've been taught. Some people just cant do it. If prop 8 failed, I'd accept my friends victory & move on even if it's against my beliefs.
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
cant deny that that affects our judgement greatly. if youve ben raised in the christian chruh for 20 years then you should be lucy with the way you see things:P, man people think pretty extreme about these sort of things
loeklovesnightwish 3 years ago
I do not believe that gay marriage as a right or should I say that people against it are discriminating. I have no problem w what anyone does in their bedroom/home. I do have a problem w what they want 2 teach very young children (incl mine in K) I had at 1 time thought maybe they can call it a union etc (marriage I guess thought should b reserved 4 a man & a woman), next we will want 2 marry our mom, dad, sis, bro, pet or object. What limit would there b? Also as far as econo, social sec etc
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
i want to marry my cat
and you have no right to deny me my right!
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago
Good response!
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
Exactly! They use the argument that sexual diversity exists, but they fail to realize that so does pedophilia, incest, etc... and none of these are okay. Its like a 50 yr old, wanting to marry his 15 yr old girlfriend w/o parental consent. Its just not going to happen. We absolutely cannot run this country based on feelings. There must be a line drawn somewhere & they get every privilage possible to the rest of us, they just want redefinition of the morals we've upheld proudly in this country.
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
all morals have to change
thats what this country is about the freedom to change
always changing for the better idea
one time it was imoral for women to go to school
once it was imoral for a black man to marry a white woman
we never uphold any morals in this country
because we ussually are wrong about them
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago
There are right and wrong morals. Gay morals is wrong. Should we allow child porn, sibling matrimony, beastiality to change our morals? Is that where we are headed? There is nothing immoral about being born, black, white, etc. You want to make your sexual habits into something right. I'm not going to contribute to the downfall of this country. I will vote against gay marriage every time, as it is I won the battle and am very pleased w/ myself... I just wish McCain had won..
Zero13Fifty 3 years ago
do not compare homosexuals to pedophiles. Sex between 2 consenting human adults is not immoral
Having sex with a sibling is really just more natural unhealthy...ya know genes and such. Also, may i remind u, you didnt win the battle. In the past election gay marriage was made legal in Connecticut, we have an openly gay congressman & a heterosexual African American congressman who fully supports gay rights. So yes im afraid the old ways will fade and so shall you
Shinnyuu2 3 years ago
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VerboteneLiebeFan12 2 years ago
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Exactly! Someone could b born 2 be prone 2 rape or have a thing 4 young children, doesn't make it right! The line needs to get drawn, no to marriage of same sex, of marriage to animals, of marriage to family members etc. It is wrong morally & it is not what marriage was based on.
betruthfulnow 3 years ago
These latest events have made me happy to live in Canada, the true land of the free. Yet while I am happy that I am considered a full citizen while being gay, I am also reminded that the rights which we hold dear can very easily be taken away. Indeed, when our government legalized gay marriage, we had a revote similar to that in California. And while we voted in favour of keeping gay marriage, the margin was not a comfy mile. Those who hate us should watch some xmen and shut the hell up.
lawrence5584 3 years ago
Which nation do you believe insures the sovereignty of Canada and its "true land of the free" status??
...it's not Canada.
MBRproductions 3 years ago
I hate to burst your bubble, but Canada is quite capable of defending herself should the need ever arise. And this notion that you are somehow protecting us from the big bad wolf a less than subtle cover for stealing our natural resources. Indeed, sometimes I often wonder if Canada will be the next country to be accused of possessing "weapons of mass destruction".
lawrence5584 3 years ago
Further more, unlike our U.S. brethren, Canada truly accepts everyone as equal, regardless of age, sex, race, or sexual orientation. We are a country that embraces diversity on all levels.
lawrence5584 3 years ago
Hmmm.. I live there yet couldn't disagree more. Fundamentally what you are saying is correct, however in practise that is not the case. You must be in the bubble?
I assure you the Canadian military is not large enough to defend the vast lands of Canada alone by itself. The military is not staged to be a measure of solo defence or of offense or deterrent. It is designed as an allied force.
What possibly suggests otherwise?
MBRproductions 3 years ago
As with so many things in life, the product maybe less than the ideal, but this end result is far greater than that which is seen in the United States.
As for the other issue of Canada's military, I will not go in depth with such a discussion, as I have confirmed via your profile that you are canadian, and are therefore ignorant of reality, or simply ommitting reality to suite your purpose.
lawrence5584 3 years ago
Now I don't understand how living in Canada makes one Canadian???
You give Canada some major props, then you tear apart Canadians?
Por que??
Lawrence, you are worrying me with your delusion.
MBRproductions 3 years ago
No theyre not, they are too busy drinking beer and playing hockey eh! What are you talking aboot?
smacktard12 3 years ago
Lmao! Wow, haven't heard that one before.
lawrence5584 3 years ago
lawrence5584:I feel the need to correct your comment about the vote in Canada's Parliament. The vote was saying whether or not the issue of same-sex marriage should be re-opened for debate, but it wasn't a vote on gay marriage itself. If it had passed, which it didn't, legalized gay marriage would have still been happening. I guess there would have been another vote after that on same-sex marriage itself. Then legal battles, if any moves to take it away had passed.
dexterxyz 3 years ago
I apologize. Perhaps I was jumping the gun slightly. My point was to show that, inspite of the fact that this issue was decided, just as it was in California, the government attempted to open the issue up again. Whether it would have led to a vote banning gay marriage is anyone's guess. The fact remains that the issue that was supposidly dealt with was none the less brought back up, and that made me and many others very uncomfortable.
lawrence5584 3 years ago
No problem. Actually, this happened a while ago in Canada, so is fuzzy in memory. I should have said, if the vote passed to re-open debate, and they rejected gay marriage on a second vote; I don't think it would have an any effect, unless a vote came up to actually define it as a man and a woman. Then there would have been legal battles. Complicated! It shows that people will go to ridiculous lengths to try to defend something irrational like discrimination.
dexterxyz 3 years ago
Duh? What this about?
coolstufftt 3 years ago
u are an awesome person
LilChyna619 3 years ago
i think we should unite all groups of different ore gen together because that way everyone of us will get what we want as a nation united we stand divided we fall
evilboyx2 3 years ago
w00t! you tell em! <33
psushgirl 3 years ago
You go boy!
WagnerDanny 3 years ago
YES SIR! GO DAN GO!! :D
southernfratdude 3 years ago
You're amazing.
Alcazar1024 3 years ago
YEAH! wooT!
love & support from Canada
ItalianDude88Returns 3 years ago
just FANTASTIC.
aborg85 3 years ago
we'll fight together and we will see gay marriage on the federal level
pqtiqo 3 years ago
I
absolutely
love
you.
amazing vid.
it's our reason to fight summed up in a 1 minute, 52 second video.
brilliant.
jd8807 3 years ago
lovin' this!
greyk2 3 years ago
Cheers!
TrashBag2000 3 years ago
Great video! I wish I could be as articulate as you.
martinw93 3 years ago
Thank You
WillzWazHere 3 years ago
GO DAN! Dont forget, there are those of us heteros who are standing with you against discrimination! Together we stand, loud and proud!!!! STOP HATE!
acceptanceisbliss 3 years ago
you're awesome.
even though prop. 8 has labeled me as a "second class citizen" i will never consider myself as one. because i will not lower myself to their level.
lisa320 3 years ago
that was an awesome video Dan, well said!
keithzworld 3 years ago
You make me proud to be one of your subscribers. Thank you for saying what I know now I should be thinking.
Jedd20 3 years ago
i stand with you dan
vmvamp88 3 years ago
so now we stand 4 another day and we will win.
ehhjeep 3 years ago
yup...exactly what i think too. =)
sakura2390 3 years ago
Amen!
Myfrogsnameisbob 3 years ago
very poetic, especially with the hand gestures : ) i will fight with you!
neveralmostthere 3 years ago
Nicely said Dan!!
p30ch 3 years ago
a wonderful message that everyone should hear no matter where you live in the USA and regardless of your orientation. all rights have to be fought for, and silence from the minorities has never won anything.
bluegrossery 3 years ago
Well said. I am for gay rights. And for those guys that protest anti-gay rights, how do you think women feel when you want to stick the dick up our assholes. If you ask me you are on the verge of being a wanna-be gay yourself. Sorry for the terrible outburst, but these kinds of people piss me off.
andrea20k 3 years ago 2
Deep man, major props.
darkeststorm 3 years ago
Great video, loved it, very heart spoken and yes we are all in this together.
Muslceboi 3 years ago
nice... if anyone pleae could tell me what this prop. 8 is about? Im from mexico so I am not that well informed about california´s legislature, anyway, anyone plis tell me!
coldnessy 3 years ago
anyone pls correct me if im wrong, the prop 8 is a law that bans gay marriage and so its legal rights like family insurance and other stuff.
force132 3 years ago
thanks a lot man!!! And thank god dan exists!!! (I hope not to regret my words XD) anyway, peace!
coldnessy 3 years ago
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a penis in a bum hole does seem dirty
rd1999 3 years ago
I'm from California. I'm straight, I'm married, and I voted NO on Prop 8. We are all in this together.
Wonderful video! Very well spoken.
fukitutube 3 years ago
amazing.
xtopher 3 years ago
I'm studying lit, and I think this was masterfully well done. Congrats and thank you.
JiggersGenius 3 years ago
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look here, just go suck a dick then get on your knees so u can get shuvd up ur asshole i wonder how loud u scream lol
PR0DiGY1212 3 years ago
Beautifully said. Perhaps the public view of our fellow American's oppression will serve to bring about a quicker end. It is one thing to be a bigot in private and another to publicly state it for all the world to see. This not meant to be hateful but the terrible fires in California would have been blamed on God's wrath by the right wing if Prop 8 had been defeated. But somehow is not His wrath because it was passed. Just a thought. Peace.
Flanole 3 years ago
Impressive. Seriously.
tyleroakley 3 years ago
i need 2 find a rally in NJ thats close 2 toms river...i made a like 20 shirts 4 me and m,y friends and we can only where them in school...but enough of that
dan, that was awsome as well as inspirational
ownthecity 3 years ago
Wow, that is very deep!
I liked it.
I also got goose bumps from one of your vids.
5 starz =D
-Justin
jealousjustin 3 years ago
I read in the LA Times today that an avalanche of lawsuits are being prepared to challenge the outcome of the recent voting on Prop. 8. This whole issue is far from over. This is just the beginning.
"God save us from the tyranny of the 'majority'."
DouglasUrantia 3 years ago 2
the rally in Columbus was amazing i'm glad people are finally speaking out
thatsright0669 3 years ago
Daaaammmn! =/
RosieandEmma 3 years ago
A-m-e-n
jamesboi900 3 years ago
Profound.
Ciathos 3 years ago
Taking the high ground.
=]
bummercucumber 3 years ago
Dan, this is very inspirational -- and very deep. Thanks for this -- and thank you, for being you.
UncommonAsian 3 years ago
Once again you've given us your enriching commentary, rationality, and passionate spirit. This, and so many of your videos, is pure gold, and I appreciate your willingness to share your thoughts.
sdh963 3 years ago
Dan,
I think in one word this was perfect. 5 stars all the way
Keep it up, makes me remember the first time I saw one of your vids I got goose bumps again.
thx
Pisoxl 3 years ago
Great video. Great job at speaking out too. :)
Brad4815 3 years ago
Amazing.
turdle 3 years ago
Very Beautifully stated. very strong. I absolutely loved this video! keep them up!
unmaskedemotions 3 years ago 2