i think there should be system shock 3 i mean cmon bioshock nobody wants the lack of shodan and her cyborgs and they left such a open ending on system shock 2 modern games can go to hell like cock of doddy same graphics you only pay for new weps and maps
Wow i have goooood memories about this game but, Crap!! It doesn't work on my Windows 7..anyway.. The guys need to realize that graphics aren't everyhing
Amnesia the Dark Descent shows that there are still hope in game creation
Oh man how I miss playing Silent Hill 1 for the first time, Doom,...
@ZeroPhoenix7497 Search sstool, ssmod, SHTUP, and Rebirth mods. It runs perfect on windows 7 and there's new textures and enemy models you can add. I just got done playing it again for the first time in years. It's absolutely timeless and a perfect example of how a game can be if done right. Unfortunately there's not much that has been made that's remotely similar to SS2, even Bioshock hints at what it could be, but never delivers. Go mod your SS2 game up and enjoy. :D
In SS2 you might go a long way without coming in contact with any adversary. The audiologs were such good company.
You were right to capture the sound tracks they are so sterile, lonely and futuristic. The metal tracks from the earlier Dooms are good but cruel and mournful.
Playing Doom3 several years later made me long for SS2. Excessive set details and constant mindless attacks set my jaw on edge. You don't need all that detail and you don't need to relive armageddon every 3 seconds.
In SS2 you might go a long way without coming in contact with any adversary. The audiologs were such good company.
You were right to capture the sound tracks they are so sterile, lonely and futuristic. The metal tracks from the earlier Dooms are good but cruel and mournful.
Take Dues Ex 3 for example. It's looking really good and the people who have played the beta say it is a good game. If there was ever a SS3 and they do what the Dues Ex 3 devs are doing it'd be in good hands.
Played System Shock 2 the other day, bought it big box and got it workin, been far too long. I know I shouldn't advertise my channel but just so you guys know I'll be putting a video series of me playing SShock 2 over the next few days if I can get Youtube to actually upload something. :P
@ironklad2001 It's very similar to the Deus Ex syndrome I've noticed. You hear a track from the game, or someone mentions it, and you want to play it again. It's cause these games are amazing and a half. Even now.
System Shock was a great games back in the late 90's!! I love the Music and Special Sound Effect. Sh*t.....the shrinking sound of the monkey and the mutants calling out "Where are you? Grrrrrr...." are scary!!! I hope some day the maker of Bioshock will make part 3.
man this game is awesome.....still tho i have fun with games today i really dont like it wen people bitch about them idk just have fun gees...im also waitting for another awesome game like this but dont say games today arent fun
SS2 doesn't look like a whole lot compared to the games that are available today, but DAMN did it have a KILLER storyline and a great plot. I'd love to see SS2 get re-released with upgraded graphics, just so long as they didn't screw around with the original plot and storyline. Some things don't need to be improved upon.
@RiNSpy Yes, my point exactly. It's very rare to have a decade later sequel that actually lives up to the original. Yes again to your other point with very few exceptions.
@paddymoep sorry bro, we're talking about Irrational Games here, specifically Ken Levine
your argument, though maybe true (god forbid), is rather invalid...
now, I'll be pissed if they give it to any other company to develop or if they develop it with consoles in mind, not that consoles are bad, it's just System Shock is one of PC gaming's flagship series
I've never played System Shock so I wouldn't know. I was just trying to point out that a game being made today (or in 2007, as i Bioshock's case) doesn't automatically mean it's crap, which is what paddymoep was implying.
I really want to play SS2 though, I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it.
This is just something that got triggered by renommee'd reviewers, who claimed the monster hunter series needed lock-on probably because the monsters are too small to hit ( lolwat? ).
But i found this in most recent games, the idea of gameplay comes before the actual story so most of the time, the story lacks some things. Bioshock is different though, but not a successor of the System Shock games.
There are not much newer games that compare in this category.
@paddymoep Sorry, didn't see you wrote the comment I responded too as well. My bad. :P
I don't think games nowadays necessarily have more focus on gameplay rather than story than they did back when SS2 was released. Seriously, back then even HAVING a story at all was enough to set you apart from most other games, at least FPS-wise. Sadly, I havn't actually played System Shock so I wouldn't know how well Bioshock holds up to it. I would love to play SS2 though, have only heard good about it.
@paddymoep Well to be fair, Bioshock 1 and 2 were good. Thing is while the atmosphere and all was good but you still missed the space setting of System Shock 2.
I think Irrational is one of the few companies that can stay true to their original formula without dumbing it down too much.
@paddymoep Stick-to-chest high walls cover system, regenerating health, cheap jump scares, it rips off Aliens (like the Turok reboot did) and the end fight is a quick time event. Thank you, but no thank you.
@l0rf Don't forget Enemies with limited AI. Also, those who really just roam in a single room, unlike in System Shock, where you could be attacked any second by a random creature that unexpectedly followed you the whole time.
@paddymoep Oh yeah, scripted, walled-off encounters. Because making a game challenging is hard. And apparently many people that call themselves Gamers today would be confused if an enemy happened to actually pursue them through more than one room.
@paddymoep How it should be. I think not even Silent Hill has enemies that can actively follow you throughout the entire ship. But I guess that's because Silent Hill 2 is atmospheric and System Shock is combat based horror.
@paddymoep I remember in one corridor I piled all my stuff in a big pile. Guns, kits, etc. Was kinda funny. amazing that a game this old had that kind of persistant world.
@jamesfish05 The main idea behind my post was that if Bioshock 1-2 is their attempt to advance SS2, then SystemShock 3 will probably be based on everything they added in Bioshock 1-2. Less weapons and enemies, stupid heartattack jump-scares, everything you sew in newer games. There isn't one game today that came close to SS2. How should they try to improve something that is perfect without going in another direction? The only good thing possible would be an IDENTICAL remake with better graphics.
@CTAT98 Be careful what you wish for. Name one good remake, reboot, or a decade later sequel to a classic like System Shock other than Half Life. EA got their money grubbing claws on the rights to SS and Looking Glass dissolved long ago.
Unless Ken Levine got the OG crew back together, SS3 would be nothing more than blasphemy. As much as I like the idea of another installment, I hope SS is left to rest in peace.
@trashbagjesus Well, SS2 was made as a sequel to SS after almost a decade. Both fantastic games.
Then again, that was the golden age of gaming. It really went to shit after around 2003. In fact, it's not just games, but also music, cinema - you name it. Our whole culture is in a pretty deep crisis.
@RiNSpy And thats what they said about rock n' roll, jazz, feminism, the end of slavery, and pretty much everything else. If I were you, I would remove that nostalgia filter and actually take a good look at our culture. It's FINE. It's just evolving, like everything else.
Post-2003 we got Half-Life 2, F.E.A.R, Ground Control II, World in Conflict, Crysis, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Dragon Age The Bourne movies, Nolan's Batman, Inception and loads of other sweet movies and games I could spend a day or two listing.
If someone doesn't like anything made post-2003 - fine, that's your opinion. But calling it a crisis? That's almost a factual error. :)
@RiNSpy I agree I feel your pain others don't see It until It affects them.. the natural order of things is out of whack anyway.. bad music DOSEN'T GO AWAY like it did, more & more games are only online, more social control all the way down to the main internet hubs are becoming the norm ex- FB TWITTER, world of warcraft for an "rpg" since thats really all anyone plays so they have to put the most money in the social aspect!.. forcibly to make money while tiny poor single player is bullet point
@playaeyez17 The weirdest thing is that the only way to reach a wide audience today is to make shit music. Everyone has very personal tastes, not as easy to write a song that everyone will like any more. But easy to write one that everyone will hate. And there is no such thing as bad publicity in the media business.
@RiNSpy GAMES WERE SOOO MUCH BETTER HERE. I ALMOST WANNA QUIT GAMING NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME.. PLEASE Deus ex 3, Skyrim & Half-Life 3, & Batllefield 3 do something..hurry. And something take out World of Warcraft.. give us our atmosphere soundtracks stories & innovation back & genre hybrids by devs that don't expect a hit or bite off other games.. who take the RISK for a evolutions & revolutions!.We started & supported this hobby not the facebook social-casual. Money & mass appeal & 2011=HURTS
@RiNSpy Bioshock, Gears of War, Dead Space, Crackdown, Call of Duty 4. Bulletstorm, Saints Row. And thats only only Xbox 360, I know tons of modern PC games, more than on 360.
Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Killing Floor, Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 1 and 2, Darwinia, Command and Conquer 3, ARMA 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 1 and 3, Global Agenda, Fallen Earth, Lego Universe, Garry's Mod, Psychonauts (possibly from before 2003), Quake 4, Team Fortress 2, Red Orchestra, Plain Sight, Metro 2033, more in a new message
@xbox50000 Good work listing every overrated title that's only really mediocre since 2003. I wouldn't call these games amazing, just overrated and overplayed as fuck with a couple fun parts.
@CallMeKab overrated and overplayed as fuck my arse, maybe some on the PC and some on the 360 but alot of them aren't overrated and certainly aren't overplayed. Have you even played them all?
@xbox50000 Please tell me how Bioshock, Gears of War, Dead Space, Crackdown, Call of Duty (any CoD), Bulletstorm, Saints Row, Left 4 Dead, Killing Floor, Warhammer, Command and Conquer 3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (both 1 and 3), Psychonauts, Quake 4, and Team Fortress 2 are not overrated and overplayed. Some of them are fun, but they're not outright amazing like the modern day gaming industry leads you to believe. You wanna know why people love them so much? The hype. Because they're overrated.
@CallMeKab Psychonauts wasn't very hyped as far as I know, it was also brilliant, a beautiful genius adventure, both S.T.A.L.K.E.Rs were hyped but both delivered a fun, scary FPSRPG adventure, Command and Conquer 3 was a brilliant RTS, as was Warhammer 40k, DoW 1 (and maybe 2), Killing Floor wasn't very hyped as far as I know and is a brilliant fun shooter, Left 4 Dead I'll agree with you there, overrated and overhyped, Saints Row was a brilliant fun game, better than GTA and less hyped too.
@CallMeKab Bulletstorm was a bit overhyped and certainly not brilliant but a good fun game, Call of Duty 1 and 2 aren't overrated, anything after that is, Crackdown wasn't overrated, better than Saints Row, Dead Space wasn't overrated, a scary fun shooter, Gears of War was overrated and overplayed but still a brilliant game, Bioshock is a tad overrated but still delivers, it's a dumbed down System Shock, dumbed down yes, but it copies from System Shock so it's not crap.
@CallMeKab Does it even matter if they're overrated and overplayed? They are good, whether they're as good as everyone says or not, that doesn't matter.
@CallMeKab STALKER Wasn't hyped at all, and those games are amazing, Call of Pripyat was the LAST PC game I have played that ALLOWED you to mod it, everything after that was hard coded so players couldn't challenge the developers overpriced DLC packs. I know the STALKER games weren't the most polished, but mods made it amazing. (The STALKER complete mods made them incredible.) That's why games these days are failing. Because the developers close off the modding community.
@RiNSpy Overlord, Madballs In Babo, Medal of Honour Airborne, Battlefield 2, Company of Heroes, Amnesia, Mass Effect, Borderlands, Battlefield 2142, Red Alert 3, Crysis, Fallout 3, and more on Xbox, PS2 and PS3.
@RiNSpy So there you are, tons of games from after 2003 that are still good. I suggest you try them all if you have the time and the money, if not I suggest you look up most of 'em and see which sound like you like 'em, do you have Steam? Because that's a great way of getting modern games and old games and alot of those games I mentioned are on Steam.
@xbox50000 Modern games pale in comparison to older games. And you can't throw the nostalgia excuse at me since i've only recently played old games. Now, there are modern games that are great, even fantastic, but not as many. And certainly not in the same way. I feel far more immersed in older games; The music (a big reason for me) is much better - for the most part - and most aren't simplified for dummies. And the gameplay is overall, better. They've really dumbed down games nowadays....
@Sceptorful It's true modern games don't even come close to legends such as System Shock 2, or Deus Ex, but they are still good games, not all games are dumbed down nowadays either.
@xbox50000 Yeah, true. I actually find modern shooters to be the least satisfying for me now, compared to 90s - 2005 fps. I still find modern rpg (and other genres) games to be great, though.
@RiNSpy yeah yeah yeah everything sucks now days....will find something positive about today? gees its so frustrating when people only talk shit about now days
The decline of the Roman Empire spanned several centuries. If you happened to live in those times, would you be saying "yeah yeah yeah everything sucks now days"? And we're talking about less than a decade that has been sucky here.
Hopefully things will get better, but there's no denying the second half of the 00s has been real bad culture-wise.
@RiNSpy Please, elaborate on how culture has somehow gone to hell recently. I would love to hear someone's negligence about everything that was so wrong with the past and only focusing on what is so wrong with the present.
It must be biological, people naturally gravitate toward the idea that anything and everything is getting consistently worse. This notion isn't recent, either. People have been spewing such B.S. for centuries and centuries.
@Cthulhudiddit Culture is not a static thing, it gets better and worse. Compare the Dark Ages with the Dutch golden age, or the best times of the Roman republic with the centuries of its decline.
It's only natural that with the rapid advancements in technology, such cultural periods have become much shorter.
@TheLackofattack Like you said, arbitrary. Can't think of any games that were release after 2003 that I would want to replay. Last ones would be Silent Hill 3 and Max Payne 2, probably.
By the way, I played System Shock 2 & 1 and Deus Ex for the first time in 2009, and I just replayed the original MGS last year - so it certainly isn't just my perception that has changed, the games have changed.
@RiNSpy Sounds like you like horror games. Did you play Doom 3 when it came out? It scared the pants off of everyone who played it. That's 2004. The Silent Hill series never really did it for me. Max Payne was a good game.
@TheLackofattack I like all kinds of games really. But some games you play and forget, and some games are works of art that stay with you long after you've played them.
I played some of Doom 3 and found it rather soulless.
It's kind of like movies - some and fun but you watch them and forget them, and some you appreciate on a much deeper level.
@agent008t Personally I think its all relative. System Shock 2, Doom 3 left an impression on me that other horror games didn't. Amnesia, Dead Space, Silent Hill, I found those to be rather "soulless" as you succinctly put for Doom 3. I guess I don't believe in "Golden Ages." There was a lot of shit in the other periods too. I believe things get persistently better and if you don't like the direction, then leave it alone for a while and come back later. You might find something you like then.
@RiNSpy Amnesia: the dark descent was a breath of fresh air in the waste dumpster of modern-day entertainment. Besides some enjoyable movies that have come up here and there, our current generation is digging itself deeper and deeper into a consumer whore culture that is getting bloated off of CoD spin-offs, auto-tune heavy singers, and movies with no story but lots of guns
I'm no expert on the matter, but I'd say this is electronica-industrial or a variant thereof. A lot of the tracks in SS2 are industrial, like the Command and Ops tracks.
@3Gyro I doubt you would really call this Liquid... I mean, I can see where the idea comes from, but isnt there another Trance infused genre? Liquid is Jungle infused with House/Disco music, this is Jungle infused with trance.
I really want to say Tech Step, but I know Im wrong.
Huh. Most liquid sounds a lot more trance-y than house-y to me, but what the hell do I know? I don't make music, I just listen to it, so you might know a lot more than I do.
@paddymoep Some people refer to it by name of the music file, while others by place where it is actually playing ingame. This tune starts exactly when you are in irradiated coolant tubes section.
@theplock99 Sorry but I don't want a System Shock 3.
I'm happy if the franchise ends with System Shock 2. If a SS3 was to come out it would probably be shit because of this generation of gaming. It would be a console game with 14 responsive buttons, no inventory, 3 different stats and a bad storyline.
@Reconite11 I guess your right. SS2 was gonna be on the dreamcast but then they said it would be impossible because you need a cursor to play the entire damn thing
@CTAT98 WE WANT SYSTEM SHOCK 3, 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 ,8 ... XD Best game from around 1999 to 2005, then others became better, but still, this game is one to remeber. ( And about the others, yeh, there are some games that ALMOST can tip System Shock, but never win it! And the new games are just to simple. Like MW2. Shooting things. And then you go level up. With System Shock U got to work ur ass of for just 1 level lol )
system shock 2, you will not be forgotton. you and your brother deus ex both showed the world just how versitile the rg genre is, not to mention how immersive.
I think we need a SS3 to be made (using source engine - allows for great environments, physics and character models... and doesn't require a $2,000 PC to run smoothly).
@wkunzelman1 It's not actually that hard to get running. All you have to do is
1 - Install the patch version 2.03
2 - (Only if you have a multicore processor) every time you play it as soon as you start the game up ctrl+alt+delete and click the process tab in the task manager window. Next, right click on SHOCK2.exe then click set affinity then un-check every box except for the first one
3 - Close task manager, click on system shock 2 on your task bar and enjoy the greatest PC game ever
they dont even need to make a new ss2 alot of other developers are just prettying up their classic games and putting them on the arcade....im sure they could do that and re release ss2 on the xbl arcade.....id pay a good 20 bucks for it
@HaLoFreQ2000 I think I payed about 35 for it on amazon. It was worth every penny and it was not hard at all to get it running on my PC which is only a year or so old. Still, it would be awesome to see it get released on XBL or PSN. I'd probably buy it again just to have it on a console.
@ManiacLord654 It would never work on a console because of the limitations of a gamepad. System Shock and System Shock 2 both required a whole keyboard and mouse, consoles don't have access to such things.
@Reconite11 Actually, I've been playing SS2 fine on PC with a 360 controller using PGP. I still prefer mouse for aiming, but the game can be played fine with only a controller.
@ManiacLord654 It doesn't change the fact that System Shock 3 would be shit because of consoles. Because the baby target-market of today's gaming industry wouldn't be able to handle it.
@Reconite11 Yeah, PC games are generally better, but there are some good console games out there. If they ever released a SS3 they'd probably botch it, but we'll never know for sure unless they make it.
BIOSHOCK may not be as ahead-of-it's-time or as fantasy-esqe as SYSTEM SHOCK, but still holds it's own charisma... it's still an awesome game.
people say it's an abomination and the bastard-child of SS2 but cannot simply acknowledge the fact that it is still a great game and a great experience...
i love system shock, and i think it is one of the more underrated masterpieces of gaming, but Bioshock is also something very cool.
@neoyouaretheone117 I respect your opinion, in fact i do agree with some of it.
We all feel the first 15 mins was unique and refreshing from mountain of bad games, but thats it, the immersion stops there.
There are some many little designing mistakes, making the game sub-par. For example, there are many things distracting you from how it should feel like(Utopian gone wrong), Rapture feels like a big mall with Halloween theme, Von Braun has a war going on between the machine and flesh
@neoyouaretheone117 how you survive through depends on how you use your resource effectively, our hero is not a superman either. Bioshock is easy, you could Rambo through the game without suffering any repercussions. The complexities and resource management of SS2 contributed to overall experience.
I do feel a bit insulting to even call it "a spiritual successor", it simply borrowed SS2's designing philosophy and mutated into something else, as you said, a bastard child.
@bushcrap2019 It was elegant 10 years ago, now it shows it's age pretty terrible, imo. It's been a while, but I remember the path through OSA being useless.
System Shock 2 was better and more involved with the RPG elements, but Bioshock 1/2 are better with being an FPS.
They both have very well crafted settings, so who cares? They're still very good games in their own rights. Just different at what they do.
is bioshock 2 gonna be more like the first? or are they gonna implement more of the rpg elements like ss2 did they are different but i do like the rpg elements of ss2 and thats something that i think would make bioshock better as a game
@HaLoFreQ2000 Now that I've played Bioshock 2 through. It was more like the first Bioshock. More far away from System Shock than the first one. Quite a dissapointment. This way Bioshock will never "be" a System Shock... We need new System Shock!!
Maybe it's better this way. BS and SS are their own games. It would also feel worse if BioShock had looted poorly more of System Shoks ideas.
System Shock 3 would be great but it also should meet high expectations.
I would be looking for example all roleplaying elements that were in SS2, same kind of interactive enviroment and inventory..more weapons like in SS2 unlike BS.. and maybe some sort of "Shattered horizon"-type of spacewalking scenes..
@DEDASTARY200: Nobody today would invest shitloads of money (you need that even for the crappiest games today) just for good storyboarding, great level design, character development, inventing a memorable villain - in short: programming a paranoid's nightmare in the shape of a game.
Which is a real petty, indeed. We need good stories again. I'd pay 3 times as much for any newly developed DX9 game with the features of Deus Ex or System Shock 1 / 2. Who needs Crysis if the story is a big failure?
@albedoshader You are right mate, but it wasn't just the story that made system shock what it is. It was also gameplay, music, game mechanics and some other stuff. And I just recently played one of the best games ever made in my opinion. Dungeon Crawl - Roguelike game tha has no music, no story, no real graphic and was made by people that just love gaming. Its less than 10mb in size. Extremely underrated and unknown game. Even made couple of videos trying to interest people in it. A masterpiece
@DEDASTARY200: These games can be real fun. I have a rogue-like version of Doom. Thank goodness the independent game scene delivers where the big companies fail.
You should try Eufloria, Galcon, Gear, Defcon and all the other little games with high fun factor without sucking the life out of your PC just for graphics. There are tons of great games to find if you dig deeper in the dungeons of Google :)
@DEDASTARY200 It's a must to quote and paraphrase Shodan's word's from intro ... " How can you challenge a perfect immortal..GAME " :D SS2 Owns bioshock ,bioshock 2 and so on :)
@DEDASTARY200 if we all believed that, then no one would have ever tried it. So good games as bioshock or dead space wouldn't have come to life. On contrary, i encourage the making of a better succesor to system shock 2, that will lead only to new good games.
@interloperftv don't get me wrong, Bioshock is a good game, but its not on par with this. Fancy graphic and some new solutions in games are not enough to give them a soul that system shock2 has.
they should just make the same game again, with great graphics,even if the game was exactly the same, even if the enemies would stand on the same places, I´d buy it....TWICE :D
True... And they should keep the feel the same, keeping everything generally bright looking. Someone should get a team together like they're doing with Black Mesa: Source. I don't have the wherewithall to start something like that, though.
i have no clue for this game but please, what's her name? the antagonist computer thing
4PeacexDarkness 1 week ago
i think there should be system shock 3 i mean cmon bioshock nobody wants the lack of shodan and her cyborgs and they left such a open ending on system shock 2 modern games can go to hell like cock of doddy same graphics you only pay for new weps and maps
skaarj658 1 month ago
Wow i have goooood memories about this game but, Crap!! It doesn't work on my Windows 7..anyway.. The guys need to realize that graphics aren't everyhing
Amnesia the Dark Descent shows that there are still hope in game creation
Oh man how I miss playing Silent Hill 1 for the first time, Doom,...
Sorry for my bad English :S
ZeroPhoenix7497 4 months ago
@ZeroPhoenix7497 Search sstool, ssmod, SHTUP, and Rebirth mods. It runs perfect on windows 7 and there's new textures and enemy models you can add. I just got done playing it again for the first time in years. It's absolutely timeless and a perfect example of how a game can be if done right. Unfortunately there's not much that has been made that's remotely similar to SS2, even Bioshock hints at what it could be, but never delivers. Go mod your SS2 game up and enjoy. :D
xenoneo 4 months ago
In SS2 you might go a long way without coming in contact with any adversary. The audiologs were such good company.
You were right to capture the sound tracks they are so sterile, lonely and futuristic. The metal tracks from the earlier Dooms are good but cruel and mournful.
I could play SS2 over and over and over..
Larkinchance 5 months ago
What made SS2 so damn good?
Playing Doom3 several years later made me long for SS2. Excessive set details and constant mindless attacks set my jaw on edge. You don't need all that detail and you don't need to relive armageddon every 3 seconds.
Larkinchance 5 months ago
In SS2 you might go a long way without coming in contact with any adversary. The audiologs were such good company.
You were right to capture the sound tracks they are so sterile, lonely and futuristic. The metal tracks from the earlier Dooms are good but cruel and mournful.
I could play SS2 over and over and over..
Larkinchance 5 months ago
Anyone else hear the PowerPuff Girls theme in this song?
JoyceJennings 5 months ago 5
@JoyceJennings Hell yes I did! :P
Cacowninja 2 months ago
I wouldn't right off SS3 as a shitty game TBH.
Take Dues Ex 3 for example. It's looking really good and the people who have played the beta say it is a good game. If there was ever a SS3 and they do what the Dues Ex 3 devs are doing it'd be in good hands.
topdod 6 months ago
Silence the discord!
YouFoolWarrenIsDead 6 months ago
Played System Shock 2 the other day, bought it big box and got it workin, been far too long. I know I shouldn't advertise my channel but just so you guys know I'll be putting a video series of me playing SShock 2 over the next few days if I can get Youtube to actually upload something. :P
xbox50000 7 months ago
System Shock, Deus Ex, Thief and look at where we are today. It's like we've fallen from heaven straight down to hell.
esideras 7 months ago
is it sad that after only 5 seconds of this music,I want to play this again?
ironklad2001 8 months ago
@ironklad2001 It's very similar to the Deus Ex syndrome I've noticed. You hear a track from the game, or someone mentions it, and you want to play it again. It's cause these games are amazing and a half. Even now.
Slagomancer 8 months ago
@Slagomancer Aaah Deus EX, the second of my three favorite games, the third being Thief 2.
ironklad2001 7 months ago
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playaeyez17 8 months ago
System Shock was a great games back in the late 90's!! I love the Music and Special Sound Effect. Sh*t.....the shrinking sound of the monkey and the mutants calling out "Where are you? Grrrrrr...." are scary!!! I hope some day the maker of Bioshock will make part 3.
fattech2003 9 months ago
man this game is awesome.....still tho i have fun with games today i really dont like it wen people bitch about them idk just have fun gees...im also waitting for another awesome game like this but dont say games today arent fun
huxleyable 9 months ago
SS2 doesn't look like a whole lot compared to the games that are available today, but DAMN did it have a KILLER storyline and a great plot. I'd love to see SS2 get re-released with upgraded graphics, just so long as they didn't screw around with the original plot and storyline. Some things don't need to be improved upon.
Solarchos 9 months ago
Reminds me a bit of Robert Miles' stuff.
Almroymarth 9 months ago
Oh god *shivers*
Anakaa4 9 months ago
Could someone save me? After 12 years, my mind is still trapped here in the bowels of the Von Braun.
MOCoutinho 10 months ago 2
@MOCoutinho LOOK AT YOU HACKER! STILL PANTING AND SWEATING AS YOU RUN THROUGH MY CORRIDORS! :D
Solarchos 9 months ago
@RiNSpy Yes, my point exactly. It's very rare to have a decade later sequel that actually lives up to the original. Yes again to your other point with very few exceptions.
trashbagjesus 11 months ago 2
The drum beats in this are killer. If I could go back in time and experience what it must have been like to play this back in 99'...
kless001 11 months ago 4
Games like this, with amazing stories (if you think about this), show us, that nice graphics aren't everything!
Combine605 11 months ago 3
I'd be happy for a GOTY edition or something :)
Kniteborne 11 months ago
system shock 2, unreal tournament, deus ex, thief, the gods of gaming
xbox50000 11 months ago 8
@xbox50000 also OMIKRON
isometric85 3 months ago
dun di dun di dun (8)
Gustavo3451 11 months ago
1 hybrid here
oscarmanuel144 1 year ago
GLaDOS < SHODAN
ZeroPhoenix7497 1 year ago
System Shock 3 ?
Enjoy your automatic lock-on and simplistic storyline with shitty characters and GRENADES GRENADES GRENADES
paddymoep 1 year ago 32
@paddymoep sorry bro, we're talking about Irrational Games here, specifically Ken Levine
your argument, though maybe true (god forbid), is rather invalid...
now, I'll be pissed if they give it to any other company to develop or if they develop it with consoles in mind, not that consoles are bad, it's just System Shock is one of PC gaming's flagship series
Minority119 1 year ago
@Minority119 That's what i'm talking about.
I played some horror games on my PC as well as on a console.
On a console you're sitting 2 metres away from your screen, there's no shock effect or atmosphere, nothing. Happened to me with Dead Space.
It's just so.. distant ( ?? ). I shat my pants playing Dead Space on my PC.
paddymoep 1 year ago
@paddymoep
Then again, Bioshock was pretty damn sweet.
Punktperson 9 months ago
@Punktperson I don't see Bioshock as one of the System Shock games.
Its story was kind of cool i think. But it wasn't scary unless you play it on a PC, alone.. you know the conditions. Everything else was pretty good.
paddymoep 9 months ago
@paddymoep
I've never played System Shock so I wouldn't know. I was just trying to point out that a game being made today (or in 2007, as i Bioshock's case) doesn't automatically mean it's crap, which is what paddymoep was implying.
I really want to play SS2 though, I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it.
Punktperson 9 months ago
@Punktperson Wait, you mean me? :P
This is just something that got triggered by renommee'd reviewers, who claimed the monster hunter series needed lock-on probably because the monsters are too small to hit ( lolwat? ).
But i found this in most recent games, the idea of gameplay comes before the actual story so most of the time, the story lacks some things. Bioshock is different though, but not a successor of the System Shock games.
There are not much newer games that compare in this category.
paddymoep 9 months ago
@paddymoep Sorry, didn't see you wrote the comment I responded too as well. My bad. :P
I don't think games nowadays necessarily have more focus on gameplay rather than story than they did back when SS2 was released. Seriously, back then even HAVING a story at all was enough to set you apart from most other games, at least FPS-wise. Sadly, I havn't actually played System Shock so I wouldn't know how well Bioshock holds up to it. I would love to play SS2 though, have only heard good about it.
Punktperson 9 months ago
@paddymoep Well to be fair, Bioshock 1 and 2 were good. Thing is while the atmosphere and all was good but you still missed the space setting of System Shock 2.
I think Irrational is one of the few companies that can stay true to their original formula without dumbing it down too much.
esideras 7 months ago
@esideras Another one would be frictional games.
I enjoyed Bioshock 1, actually.
Didn't play Bioshock 2 completely, but you see the difference.
This has gone from dark humour to regular humour, in addition to the loss of all atmosphere that SS2 had.
I though Bioshock wasn't really atmospherical. But the colours were intriguing. Distracted me dozens of times.
paddymoep 7 months ago
@esideras
yeah but infinite seems to have setpieces and eliz guiding like pointers for progression, too scripted.
gizelbelcoot 6 months ago
@paddymoep Stick-to-chest high walls cover system, regenerating health, cheap jump scares, it rips off Aliens (like the Turok reboot did) and the end fight is a quick time event. Thank you, but no thank you.
l0rf 6 months ago
@l0rf Don't forget Enemies with limited AI. Also, those who really just roam in a single room, unlike in System Shock, where you could be attacked any second by a random creature that unexpectedly followed you the whole time.
paddymoep 6 months ago
@paddymoep Oh yeah, scripted, walled-off encounters. Because making a game challenging is hard. And apparently many people that call themselves Gamers today would be confused if an enemy happened to actually pursue them through more than one room.
l0rf 6 months ago
@l0rf If you kill everything in a single area, you still can't really expect to be safe in SS2.
paddymoep 6 months ago
@paddymoep How it should be. I think not even Silent Hill has enemies that can actively follow you throughout the entire ship. But I guess that's because Silent Hill 2 is atmospheric and System Shock is combat based horror.
l0rf 6 months ago
@paddymoep I remember in one corridor I piled all my stuff in a big pile. Guns, kits, etc. Was kinda funny. amazing that a game this old had that kind of persistant world.
buhrd 6 months ago
@paddymoep
you forgot dudebros
gizelbelcoot 6 months ago
@paddymoep Yep. Irrational Games sure has turned to shit.
jamesfish05 6 months ago
@jamesfish05 The main idea behind my post was that if Bioshock 1-2 is their attempt to advance SS2, then SystemShock 3 will probably be based on everything they added in Bioshock 1-2. Less weapons and enemies, stupid heartattack jump-scares, everything you sew in newer games. There isn't one game today that came close to SS2. How should they try to improve something that is perfect without going in another direction? The only good thing possible would be an IDENTICAL remake with better graphics.
paddymoep 6 months ago
@CTAT98 Be careful what you wish for. Name one good remake, reboot, or a decade later sequel to a classic like System Shock other than Half Life. EA got their money grubbing claws on the rights to SS and Looking Glass dissolved long ago.
Unless Ken Levine got the OG crew back together, SS3 would be nothing more than blasphemy. As much as I like the idea of another installment, I hope SS is left to rest in peace.
trashbagjesus 1 year ago 2
@trashbagjesus Well, SS2 was made as a sequel to SS after almost a decade. Both fantastic games.
Then again, that was the golden age of gaming. It really went to shit after around 2003. In fact, it's not just games, but also music, cinema - you name it. Our whole culture is in a pretty deep crisis.
RiNSpy 11 months ago 26
@RiNSpy And thats what they said about rock n' roll, jazz, feminism, the end of slavery, and pretty much everything else. If I were you, I would remove that nostalgia filter and actually take a good look at our culture. It's FINE. It's just evolving, like everything else.
XamiNaxamis 9 months ago 2
@XamiNaxamis
I agree.
Post-2003 we got Half-Life 2, F.E.A.R, Ground Control II, World in Conflict, Crysis, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Dragon Age The Bourne movies, Nolan's Batman, Inception and loads of other sweet movies and games I could spend a day or two listing.
If someone doesn't like anything made post-2003 - fine, that's your opinion. But calling it a crisis? That's almost a factual error. :)
Punktperson 9 months ago
@RiNSpy Agreed!
bantleman92 9 months ago
@RiNSpy I agree I feel your pain others don't see It until It affects them.. the natural order of things is out of whack anyway.. bad music DOSEN'T GO AWAY like it did, more & more games are only online, more social control all the way down to the main internet hubs are becoming the norm ex- FB TWITTER, world of warcraft for an "rpg" since thats really all anyone plays so they have to put the most money in the social aspect!.. forcibly to make money while tiny poor single player is bullet point
playaeyez17 8 months ago
@playaeyez17 The weirdest thing is that the only way to reach a wide audience today is to make shit music. Everyone has very personal tastes, not as easy to write a song that everyone will like any more. But easy to write one that everyone will hate. And there is no such thing as bad publicity in the media business.
agent008t 8 months ago
@RiNSpy GAMES WERE SOOO MUCH BETTER HERE. I ALMOST WANNA QUIT GAMING NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME.. PLEASE Deus ex 3, Skyrim & Half-Life 3, & Batllefield 3 do something..hurry. And something take out World of Warcraft.. give us our atmosphere soundtracks stories & innovation back & genre hybrids by devs that don't expect a hit or bite off other games.. who take the RISK for a evolutions & revolutions!.We started & supported this hobby not the facebook social-casual. Money & mass appeal & 2011=HURTS
playaeyez17 8 months ago
@RiNSpy No. Plently of modern games are brilliant, you are just stuck in the past. :P
xbox50000 7 months ago
@xbox50000 Could you recommend any? I've been looking for them.
RiNSpy 7 months ago
@RiNSpy Bioshock, Gears of War, Dead Space, Crackdown, Call of Duty 4. Bulletstorm, Saints Row. And thats only only Xbox 360, I know tons of modern PC games, more than on 360.
Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Killing Floor, Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 1 and 2, Darwinia, Command and Conquer 3, ARMA 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 1 and 3, Global Agenda, Fallen Earth, Lego Universe, Garry's Mod, Psychonauts (possibly from before 2003), Quake 4, Team Fortress 2, Red Orchestra, Plain Sight, Metro 2033, more in a new message
xbox50000 7 months ago
@xbox50000 Good work listing every overrated title that's only really mediocre since 2003. I wouldn't call these games amazing, just overrated and overplayed as fuck with a couple fun parts.
CallMeKab 7 months ago
@CallMeKab overrated and overplayed as fuck my arse, maybe some on the PC and some on the 360 but alot of them aren't overrated and certainly aren't overplayed. Have you even played them all?
xbox50000 7 months ago
@xbox50000 Please tell me how Bioshock, Gears of War, Dead Space, Crackdown, Call of Duty (any CoD), Bulletstorm, Saints Row, Left 4 Dead, Killing Floor, Warhammer, Command and Conquer 3, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (both 1 and 3), Psychonauts, Quake 4, and Team Fortress 2 are not overrated and overplayed. Some of them are fun, but they're not outright amazing like the modern day gaming industry leads you to believe. You wanna know why people love them so much? The hype. Because they're overrated.
CallMeKab 7 months ago
@CallMeKab Psychonauts wasn't very hyped as far as I know, it was also brilliant, a beautiful genius adventure, both S.T.A.L.K.E.Rs were hyped but both delivered a fun, scary FPSRPG adventure, Command and Conquer 3 was a brilliant RTS, as was Warhammer 40k, DoW 1 (and maybe 2), Killing Floor wasn't very hyped as far as I know and is a brilliant fun shooter, Left 4 Dead I'll agree with you there, overrated and overhyped, Saints Row was a brilliant fun game, better than GTA and less hyped too.
xbox50000 7 months ago
@CallMeKab Bulletstorm was a bit overhyped and certainly not brilliant but a good fun game, Call of Duty 1 and 2 aren't overrated, anything after that is, Crackdown wasn't overrated, better than Saints Row, Dead Space wasn't overrated, a scary fun shooter, Gears of War was overrated and overplayed but still a brilliant game, Bioshock is a tad overrated but still delivers, it's a dumbed down System Shock, dumbed down yes, but it copies from System Shock so it's not crap.
xbox50000 7 months ago
@CallMeKab And my question still stands, have you even played them all?
xbox50000 7 months ago
@xbox50000 @CallMeKab All of those and more. MAG is fucking legendary, but it's not ridiculously overrated like CoD.
My point still stands, try and justify calling the games I listed being not overrated and overplayed.
CallMeKab 7 months ago
@CallMeKab Does it even matter if they're overrated and overplayed? They are good, whether they're as good as everyone says or not, that doesn't matter.
xbox50000 7 months ago
@CallMeKab All of those and more. MAG is fucking legendary, but it's not ridiculously overrated like CoD.
My point still stands, try and justify calling the games I listed being not overrated and overplayed.
CallMeKab 7 months ago
@CallMeKab STALKER Wasn't hyped at all, and those games are amazing, Call of Pripyat was the LAST PC game I have played that ALLOWED you to mod it, everything after that was hard coded so players couldn't challenge the developers overpriced DLC packs. I know the STALKER games weren't the most polished, but mods made it amazing. (The STALKER complete mods made them incredible.) That's why games these days are failing. Because the developers close off the modding community.
skytop082 6 months ago
@RiNSpy Overlord, Madballs In Babo, Medal of Honour Airborne, Battlefield 2, Company of Heroes, Amnesia, Mass Effect, Borderlands, Battlefield 2142, Red Alert 3, Crysis, Fallout 3, and more on Xbox, PS2 and PS3.
xbox50000 7 months ago
@RiNSpy So there you are, tons of games from after 2003 that are still good. I suggest you try them all if you have the time and the money, if not I suggest you look up most of 'em and see which sound like you like 'em, do you have Steam? Because that's a great way of getting modern games and old games and alot of those games I mentioned are on Steam.
xbox50000 7 months ago
@xbox50000 Modern games pale in comparison to older games. And you can't throw the nostalgia excuse at me since i've only recently played old games. Now, there are modern games that are great, even fantastic, but not as many. And certainly not in the same way. I feel far more immersed in older games; The music (a big reason for me) is much better - for the most part - and most aren't simplified for dummies. And the gameplay is overall, better. They've really dumbed down games nowadays....
Sceptorful 7 months ago 16
@Sceptorful It's true modern games don't even come close to legends such as System Shock 2, or Deus Ex, but they are still good games, not all games are dumbed down nowadays either.
xbox50000 7 months ago
@xbox50000 Yeah, true. I actually find modern shooters to be the least satisfying for me now, compared to 90s - 2005 fps. I still find modern rpg (and other genres) games to be great, though.
Sceptorful 7 months ago
that is so true
older game can actually scare me unlike modern horror gaming today like dead space ( with the exepction of F.E.A.R)
tinmaptd 3 weeks ago
@RiNSpy I blame Halo with it's regenerating health and shields and just two weapons.
l0rf 6 months ago
@RiNSpy Gaming went to hell more at 2005, cause at 2003 half life 2 was still coming...
Dallows65 6 months ago
@Dallows65 Not a big fan of HL. I didn't even finish HL2 - it's a decent game, but not one I would consider replaying.
RiNSpy 6 months ago
@RiNSpy yeah yeah yeah everything sucks now days....will find something positive about today? gees its so frustrating when people only talk shit about now days
huxleyable 6 months ago
@huxleyable But it's true.
The decline of the Roman Empire spanned several centuries. If you happened to live in those times, would you be saying "yeah yeah yeah everything sucks now days"? And we're talking about less than a decade that has been sucky here.
Hopefully things will get better, but there's no denying the second half of the 00s has been real bad culture-wise.
RiNSpy 6 months ago
@RiNSpy Please, elaborate on how culture has somehow gone to hell recently. I would love to hear someone's negligence about everything that was so wrong with the past and only focusing on what is so wrong with the present.
It must be biological, people naturally gravitate toward the idea that anything and everything is getting consistently worse. This notion isn't recent, either. People have been spewing such B.S. for centuries and centuries.
Cthulhudiddit 6 months ago
@Cthulhudiddit Culture is not a static thing, it gets better and worse. Compare the Dark Ages with the Dutch golden age, or the best times of the Roman republic with the centuries of its decline.
It's only natural that with the rapid advancements in technology, such cultural periods have become much shorter.
RiNSpy 6 months ago
@RiNSpy Why 2003? Why the arbitrary year?
TheLackofattack 6 months ago
@TheLackofattack Like you said, arbitrary. Can't think of any games that were release after 2003 that I would want to replay. Last ones would be Silent Hill 3 and Max Payne 2, probably.
By the way, I played System Shock 2 & 1 and Deus Ex for the first time in 2009, and I just replayed the original MGS last year - so it certainly isn't just my perception that has changed, the games have changed.
RiNSpy 6 months ago
@RiNSpy Sounds like you like horror games. Did you play Doom 3 when it came out? It scared the pants off of everyone who played it. That's 2004. The Silent Hill series never really did it for me. Max Payne was a good game.
TheLackofattack 6 months ago
@TheLackofattack I like all kinds of games really. But some games you play and forget, and some games are works of art that stay with you long after you've played them.
I played some of Doom 3 and found it rather soulless.
It's kind of like movies - some and fun but you watch them and forget them, and some you appreciate on a much deeper level.
agent008t 6 months ago
@agent008t Personally I think its all relative. System Shock 2, Doom 3 left an impression on me that other horror games didn't. Amnesia, Dead Space, Silent Hill, I found those to be rather "soulless" as you succinctly put for Doom 3. I guess I don't believe in "Golden Ages." There was a lot of shit in the other periods too. I believe things get persistently better and if you don't like the direction, then leave it alone for a while and come back later. You might find something you like then.
TheLackofattack 3 months ago
@RiNSpy But mate... Modern Warfare 2.
DGJamesP 5 months ago
@RiNSpy Thank you for saying what every single generation has said since mass-media was invented.
lelles76 4 months ago
@RiNSpy Amnesia: the dark descent was a breath of fresh air in the waste dumpster of modern-day entertainment. Besides some enjoyable movies that have come up here and there, our current generation is digging itself deeper and deeper into a consumer whore culture that is getting bloated off of CoD spin-offs, auto-tune heavy singers, and movies with no story but lots of guns
SalDWow 4 months ago
what genre of music is this anyways? really curious :(
DDRrez 1 year ago
@DDRrez
I'm no expert on the matter, but I'd say this is electronica-industrial or a variant thereof. A lot of the tracks in SS2 are industrial, like the Command and Ops tracks.
JJMerrill 1 year ago
@JJMerrill
thanks for the info! :)
DDRrez 1 year ago
@DDRrez DnB (Drum n' Bass), also known as Jungle/Junglism/whatever.
Specifically you could call it Liquid DnB.
3Gyro 1 year ago 3
@3Gyro I doubt you would really call this Liquid... I mean, I can see where the idea comes from, but isnt there another Trance infused genre? Liquid is Jungle infused with House/Disco music, this is Jungle infused with trance.
I really want to say Tech Step, but I know Im wrong.
kagenooni 1 year ago
@kagenooni
Huh. Most liquid sounds a lot more trance-y than house-y to me, but what the hell do I know? I don't make music, I just listen to it, so you might know a lot more than I do.
3Gyro 1 year ago
Pause at 02:01 exactly O_O O_O
ultrawaregamestudios 1 year ago
Masterpiece
L4BFast 1 year ago
Now , i understand why SHODAN has a faint smile on her face.
It must be because she created that awesome music for her corridors.
paddymoep 1 year ago
Indeed.
BioShock was awesome.
System Shock 3 would be even more Epic...
Imagine....
BluelightSpike 1 year ago
Coolant Tubes Music = Engineering music
wtf? Exlain?
paddymoep 1 year ago
@paddymoep Some people refer to it by name of the music file, while others by place where it is actually playing ingame. This tune starts exactly when you are in irradiated coolant tubes section.
konoko1984 1 year ago
@konoko1984
I think the " Engineering music " is slighty longer , at least the intro is longer.
Right..??
paddymoep 1 year ago
if system shock 3 comes out I AM BUYING IT NO MATTER THE PRICE THUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE
theplock99 1 year ago
@theplock99 Sorry but I don't want a System Shock 3.
I'm happy if the franchise ends with System Shock 2. If a SS3 was to come out it would probably be shit because of this generation of gaming. It would be a console game with 14 responsive buttons, no inventory, 3 different stats and a bad storyline.
Let the classics R.I.P.
Reconite11 1 year ago
@Reconite11 Yeah dosn't have to be on consoles god damnit
theplock99 1 year ago
@theplock99 There really would be no other choice in this day and age. You rarely ever get PC exclusives anymore (because they don't sell well).
I'd rather just let SS rest in peace.
Reconite11 1 year ago
@Reconite11 I guess your right. SS2 was gonna be on the dreamcast but then they said it would be impossible because you need a cursor to play the entire damn thing
theplock99 1 year ago
@Reconite11
Ye,it would probably end up the same way as fallout 3,a remake would be nice though,or a re release on steam
imbadatnames390 1 year ago
@CTAT98 WE WANT SYSTEM SHOCK 3, 4 ,5 ,6 ,7 ,8 ... XD Best game from around 1999 to 2005, then others became better, but still, this game is one to remeber. ( And about the others, yeh, there are some games that ALMOST can tip System Shock, but never win it! And the new games are just to simple. Like MW2. Shooting things. And then you go level up. With System Shock U got to work ur ass of for just 1 level lol )
ultrawaregamestudios 1 year ago
@CTAT98 yes we do but sadly the rights remain with the owner. Thats why we got bioshock instead.
magmaninja 1 year ago
I remember I bought this game with a new pc, and after a few years I sold it. DAMN! :[
Now I can't get the box version anywhere :(
Johnno3D 1 year ago
@Johnno3D Torrent it.
utc9 1 year ago
@utc9 I got a pirate version but I want the real one with the box! :D
Johnno3D 1 year ago
system shock 2, you will not be forgotton. you and your brother deus ex both showed the world just how versitile the rg genre is, not to mention how immersive.
phaedruslive 1 year ago
Is this the same soundtrack as Engineering?
paddymoep 1 year ago
@paddymoep yes, green rad filled pipelines and all.
MusicalHeretic 1 year ago
Irrational developed SS2. They are owned by Take 2. EA owns the rights to SS. If a third game is made, it will likely have a very different staff.
MrArmageddon666 1 year ago
I think we need a SS3 to be made (using source engine - allows for great environments, physics and character models... and doesn't require a $2,000 PC to run smoothly).
ZenOfEmotion 1 year ago
@ZenOfEmotion
the unreal engine always seems to look... well.. unreal, pretty but not really convincing/immersive.
ZenOfEmotion 1 year ago
I don't know why I like this song so much.... I'm having nostalgia... and I wish to god that I could play this again. Alas, my computer is too new.
wkunzelman1 1 year ago
@wkunzelman1 It's not actually that hard to get running. All you have to do is
1 - Install the patch version 2.03
2 - (Only if you have a multicore processor) every time you play it as soon as you start the game up ctrl+alt+delete and click the process tab in the task manager window. Next, right click on SHOCK2.exe then click set affinity then un-check every box except for the first one
3 - Close task manager, click on system shock 2 on your task bar and enjoy the greatest PC game ever
ManiacLord654 1 year ago 2
they dont even need to make a new ss2 alot of other developers are just prettying up their classic games and putting them on the arcade....im sure they could do that and re release ss2 on the xbl arcade.....id pay a good 20 bucks for it
HaLoFreQ2000 1 year ago
@HaLoFreQ2000 I think I payed about 35 for it on amazon. It was worth every penny and it was not hard at all to get it running on my PC which is only a year or so old. Still, it would be awesome to see it get released on XBL or PSN. I'd probably buy it again just to have it on a console.
ManiacLord654 1 year ago
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Reconite11 1 year ago
@ManiacLord654 It would never work on a console because of the limitations of a gamepad. System Shock and System Shock 2 both required a whole keyboard and mouse, consoles don't have access to such things.
Reconite11 1 year ago
@Reconite11 Actually, I've been playing SS2 fine on PC with a 360 controller using PGP. I still prefer mouse for aiming, but the game can be played fine with only a controller.
ManiacLord654 1 year ago
@ManiacLord654 It doesn't change the fact that System Shock 3 would be shit because of consoles. Because the baby target-market of today's gaming industry wouldn't be able to handle it.
Reconite11 1 year ago
@Reconite11 Yeah, PC games are generally better, but there are some good console games out there. If they ever released a SS3 they'd probably botch it, but we'll never know for sure unless they make it.
ManiacLord654 1 year ago
SS2 NEVER ended!
the ending was implying when a new 'shodan' had awaken in that girl on the escape shuttle.
The SS3 never came out and never will :(
This is just an ancient relic of how a best game should look like.
I'll never forget it.
5/5 tunes in it aswell.
DarkRezo 1 year ago 4
awesome!!!!!!!!
Dealven 1 year ago
pardon my grammar :(
ninjapaperz89 1 year ago
this game scared the crap at of me!!!!!!! this is how a game should be made.... fear/adrenaline/ action.. :D
ninjapaperz89 1 year ago
Anybody know if the original SS2 team is completely dissassembled now? I know they didnt work on the bioshock sequel.
bullfish 1 year ago
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ratius1979 1 year ago
OMG this game is so intense, the enemies just keep comming, non-stop, and everythings real time even when you item manage! -First impressions
WigglesThePirate 1 year ago
Bioshock is an abomination.
bushcrap2019 1 year ago 2
I humbly disagree.
BIOSHOCK may not be as ahead-of-it's-time or as fantasy-esqe as SYSTEM SHOCK, but still holds it's own charisma... it's still an awesome game.
people say it's an abomination and the bastard-child of SS2 but cannot simply acknowledge the fact that it is still a great game and a great experience...
i love system shock, and i think it is one of the more underrated masterpieces of gaming, but Bioshock is also something very cool.
...they are just DIFFERENT.
neoyouaretheone117 1 year ago 2
@neoyouaretheone117 I respect your opinion, in fact i do agree with some of it.
We all feel the first 15 mins was unique and refreshing from mountain of bad games, but thats it, the immersion stops there.
There are some many little designing mistakes, making the game sub-par. For example, there are many things distracting you from how it should feel like(Utopian gone wrong), Rapture feels like a big mall with Halloween theme, Von Braun has a war going on between the machine and flesh
bushcrap2019 1 year ago
@neoyouaretheone117 how you survive through depends on how you use your resource effectively, our hero is not a superman either. Bioshock is easy, you could Rambo through the game without suffering any repercussions. The complexities and resource management of SS2 contributed to overall experience.
I do feel a bit insulting to even call it "a spiritual successor", it simply borrowed SS2's designing philosophy and mutated into something else, as you said, a bastard child.
bushcrap2019 1 year ago
You remind of those idiots from No Mutants allowed when they talked about Fallout 3.
Though I can't argue with SS2 being more of an RPG then Bioshock, I still think they both have their place as damn good games.
It's probably just me when I say this, but I thought Rapture was a much cooler place then the Von Bauren.
Shiba1227 1 year ago
Depends on how you define it, my opinion is that SS2's design being more elegant in almost every way, how it makes the game, it's all subjective.
bushcrap2019 1 year ago
@bushcrap2019 It was elegant 10 years ago, now it shows it's age pretty terrible, imo. It's been a while, but I remember the path through OSA being useless.
System Shock 2 was better and more involved with the RPG elements, but Bioshock 1/2 are better with being an FPS.
They both have very well crafted settings, so who cares? They're still very good games in their own rights. Just different at what they do.
Shiba1227 1 year ago
is bioshock 2 gonna be more like the first? or are they gonna implement more of the rpg elements like ss2 did they are different but i do like the rpg elements of ss2 and thats something that i think would make bioshock better as a game
HaLoFreQ2000 1 year ago
@HaLoFreQ2000 Now that I've played Bioshock 2 through. It was more like the first Bioshock. More far away from System Shock than the first one. Quite a dissapointment. This way Bioshock will never "be" a System Shock... We need new System Shock!!
pehmomarsu 1 year ago
@pehmomarsu I'm totally okay with that.
I loved Bioshock 2....and I loved how it was slightly more original--it's own game.
it goes to show that they ARE two different sagas--and I'm okay with that. It gives me the right to say I love them both.
...and YES.
system shock 3 would be great.
neoyouaretheone117 1 year ago
@neoyouaretheone117 And you are right.
Maybe it's better this way. BS and SS are their own games. It would also feel worse if BioShock had looted poorly more of System Shoks ideas.
System Shock 3 would be great but it also should meet high expectations.
I would be looking for example all roleplaying elements that were in SS2, same kind of interactive enviroment and inventory..more weapons like in SS2 unlike BS.. and maybe some sort of "Shattered horizon"-type of spacewalking scenes..
pehmomarsu 1 year ago
I like the Thief games a little bit better than SS2
Johnnybomb1 2 years ago
system shock 2 perfected the action rpg genre long before borderlands.
epicmonkeyz 2 years ago 6
There will never manage to make a game like System Shock 2 again. You cannot improve perfection.
DEDASTARY200 2 years ago 70
@DEDASTARY200 this.
Spartan117A1 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200 Totally right!
Ga5Xz2 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200 you CAN copy it's perfection into a new story :)
UltrawareMusicStudio 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200 That's what VINCent said to BOB in The Black Hole and he was sort of the opposite of SHODAN.
IggyHazard 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200: Nobody today would invest shitloads of money (you need that even for the crappiest games today) just for good storyboarding, great level design, character development, inventing a memorable villain - in short: programming a paranoid's nightmare in the shape of a game.
Which is a real petty, indeed. We need good stories again. I'd pay 3 times as much for any newly developed DX9 game with the features of Deus Ex or System Shock 1 / 2. Who needs Crysis if the story is a big failure?
albedoshader 1 year ago
@albedoshader You are right mate, but it wasn't just the story that made system shock what it is. It was also gameplay, music, game mechanics and some other stuff. And I just recently played one of the best games ever made in my opinion. Dungeon Crawl - Roguelike game tha has no music, no story, no real graphic and was made by people that just love gaming. Its less than 10mb in size. Extremely underrated and unknown game. Even made couple of videos trying to interest people in it. A masterpiece
DEDASTARY200 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200: These games can be real fun. I have a rogue-like version of Doom. Thank goodness the independent game scene delivers where the big companies fail.
You should try Eufloria, Galcon, Gear, Defcon and all the other little games with high fun factor without sucking the life out of your PC just for graphics. There are tons of great games to find if you dig deeper in the dungeons of Google :)
albedoshader 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200 It's a must to quote and paraphrase Shodan's word's from intro ... " How can you challenge a perfect immortal..GAME " :D SS2 Owns bioshock ,bioshock 2 and so on :)
Jakoss88 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200 if we all believed that, then no one would have ever tried it. So good games as bioshock or dead space wouldn't have come to life. On contrary, i encourage the making of a better succesor to system shock 2, that will lead only to new good games.
interloperftv 1 year ago
@interloperftv don't get me wrong, Bioshock is a good game, but its not on par with this. Fancy graphic and some new solutions in games are not enough to give them a soul that system shock2 has.
DEDASTARY200 1 year ago
@DEDASTARY200 I know it's an old comment, but we don't want improvements, we just want a remake!
KresauntKid 11 months ago
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so i started playing system shock 2 today, and bioshock really is ss3
schfiftyfivehundydoo 2 years ago
Someon start a petition for system shock 3. And the developers may say Bioshock is the substitute for System Shock...i still think that its not.
MrGbullet 2 years ago 7
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Ambassador696 2 years ago
they should just make the same game again, with great graphics,even if the game was exactly the same, even if the enemies would stand on the same places, I´d buy it....TWICE :D
asadd2 2 years ago 6
True... And they should keep the feel the same, keeping everything generally bright looking. Someone should get a team together like they're doing with Black Mesa: Source. I don't have the wherewithall to start something like that, though.
PikkaBird 2 years ago
Genialne nie to co ten dzisiejszy shit
bezio666 2 years ago 5
shodan wymiata
850dpi 2 years ago 4