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  • THE ROCK CHURCH GARY IND. WATCH THE VIDEOS ON FEARLESS CONFERENCE ,THAT'S WHERE THE TRINITY STARTED ;)

  • Quran:

    (Surah-5-the maidah-vs-116)

    And when Allah will say: o isa (Jesus) son of marium (Mary)! Did you say to men, take me and my mother for two gods beside allah, he will say: glory be to thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, thou wouldst indeed have known it; thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in thy mind, surely thou art the great knower of the unseen things

  • @quranresponse Why do you change your own book that is supposed to never change? Allah does NOT care that you lie about his words? S. 5:116-117 mistakes Mary as the one who is taught in the Bible as a GOD. No where, never is that what YHWH teaches in HIS TRUE Word.

  • @quranresponse ,This is another mistake. Muhammad apparently lived among Collyridians: A heretic sect in Arabia who taught that lie! The Bible explicitly shows that the trinity consists of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Mary is not ever listed as part of the trinity n the Bible. There is no way for Muslims today to escape the fact that this indeed is a major theological blunder. If the Quran was really written by God, she would never have been connected with the trinity.

  • Quran:

    {Surah-112- the unity (ikhlas)-vs-1}

    Say: he, Allah, is one.

    2-Allah is on whom all depend.

    3-he begets not, nor is he begotten.

    4-and none is like him.

  • @quranresponse , Bible says He has a begotten SON, Quran lied.

  • @GodsSeer do yoy know what's begotten mean?

  • @quranresponse . It has different meanings, and DOES NOT always mean sex is involved. The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten." definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship."

  • @quranresponse, Begotten, or unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16. In fact, John is the only New Testament writer who uses this word in reference to Jesus (see John 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus was the Son of God (John 20:31) And jesus agreed; Joh 10:36 "do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?

  • @quranresponse . All who have received Christ's Holy Spirit are born of GOD by His Spirit and also have been begotten by Him; 1Jo 5:1Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him. Jesus agreed;Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."That which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

  • @quranresponse ,It was God's SPIRIT who miraculous made Jesus become in her, just as He can do anything and does not need to have sex to send His SON into the world. Lu 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

  • I believe in God the Father,Son and Holy Ghost! Yes,I believe! =)

  • Yes, you believe that but you have absolutley no evidence for it being true.

  • @mycatistigger , I have evidence that The Holy Spirit IS GOD; "they were all filled with the Holy Spirit" Acts 2:4

    "Be filled with the Spirit" Eph. 5:18,that you may be filled with all the fullness of God Eph 3:19,1 Cor 6:19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you .[HE HAS SHOWN AND WORKED THROUGH ME MANY SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES BY HIS PROMISES AND HOLY SPIRIT.]

  • @GodsSeer i'm sorry, but you can't use scripture as evidence for a god. first you must have evidence that the scripture is true. which there is none.

  • I believe I believe! I believe in the word of God! =)

  • I don;t care what you believe Psalm, I just wondered if you had any evidence for what you claim to be true. That is why I kept asking you 'Do you have any evidence?', that is why I am askign you know, 'Do you hve any evidence?' If you have no more evidence than a beliver in UFOs or Fairies, then fair enough. Believe what you like, refuse to beleive in genetics and medicine if that's what your bible tells you, just don't pretend there is any proof at all.

  • That's nice. So you don't need evidence then? You beleive in fairy stories instead. If that's really enough for you , its sad, but none of my business. Some people still believe in Santa Claus, some in the Easter Bunny, you believe in a wise old man in the sky.

    Me I'll stick with genetics, the motor car, anti-biotics, manned flight, computers, etc etc. You know,m the things that have been brought to us by science.

  • @mycatistigger No loss for me Tigger-I am perfectly content and happy! 

  • @psalm964 me too. (Except for Hilsong being lying, tax frauds and real estae cheats obviously). Its a shame you have no evidence , I htink there was a time you claimed you did, but so long as we both agree there is no evidnce at all for any of hte silly stories you claim are true, then alls well that ends well.

  • @mycatistigger I will never be in agreement on that tigger.I believe what I believe!God has proven Himself to me,and that is enough for me! If your goal was to try to prove otherwise,you have failed miserably.NEVER will I leave my God!Never will I abandon my faith!Forever I will worship the King!

  • @psalm964 So you have 'hope of salvation' but no actual evidence for anything you believe then? Yu sould have said;

    We as believers in Christ have the hope of salvation in our hearts but no actual proof -the presence of the Holy Spirit which testifies to what we believe despite there being no evidence fo any sort for it beingmore than wishful thinking.That has to be enough for us as we have no proof. There is very little proof of Jesus

  • @mycatistigger no,what I am saying is we have the presence of the Holy Spirit in our souls-a very real and tangible feeling-that testifies to what we believe! I feel His joy,love and peace in my very inner soul(man)and that is enough for me!

  • Judges 5:2 "That the leaders took the lead in Israel,that the people offered themselves willingly,bless the Lord!

  • @psalm964 If the leaders of the church took the lead,and the saints offered themselves willingly to God,what would the church be today that it isn't?That would truly be reason to praise the Lord!

  • @psalm964 So you don't have any actual evidence then?

    Wouldn

    t it be more honest to admit this, than keep running away from the question like a frightened rabbit?

  • @mycatistigger We as believers in Christ have the hope of salvation in our hearts-the presence of the Holy Spirit which testifies to what we believe.That is enough for us.You have the proof of Jesus dying on the cross,the Son of God dying for your sins.If that is not enough for you,then so be it.Believe it or not-it is up to you.Your loss if you don't.

  • dying on the cross, and none at all for him being the Son of God and the concept of his dying for your sins has no evidence at all for it being mroe than a silly old story. If that is not enough for you,then so be it.Believe it despite there beinbg no more proof than for the existence of Father Christmas or not-it is up to you.Your loss if you don't believe in things such as fairies, santa claus and jesus.

  • @mycatistigger your choice-my choice is to believe!=)

  • @mycatistigger PS-It would take a lot more than you to scare me! Just to let you know!=)

  • Praise God from whom all blessings flow! Praise Him all creatures here below! praise Him above ye heavenly hosts! Praise Father,Son and Holy Ghost! Amen

  • There is nobody like our God!!! =)

  • He lives! He lives! Christ Jesus lives today! He walks with me and talks with me along life's narrow way! He lives! He lives! Salvation to impart! You ask me how I know He lives! He lives within my heart! =)

  • There's no proof He lives! No proof He lives! No prof at all that Christ Jesus lives today! He probably doesn't walk with you and the talking is a sign of mental illness

  • @proverbs2wisdom Yes, I am a foolish m person. That's why I am again asking you if you have any evidence God exists. Politely.

    You are a very clever person, that is why you are running away from the question yet again. Its got nothing to do with the fact you ahve no evidence, and nothing to do with theh fact you are too scared and dishonest to admit it.

  • @proverbs2wisdom If he were truly wanting proof of God,why does he mock God with every point that has been made to him?The true sign of someone wanting God would be a humble heart.All he wants to do is argue.There is nothing profitable in arguing over God's word.You either believe or you do not.Simple as that. God bless,brother

  • @proverbs2wisdom

    I’m not asking God, I’m asking you. I’m not claiming to be a victim and I don’t really care what you consider ‘a pure heart’. My words do not ‘betray’ me, I am quite honest about my intentions, something which you it seems are not. I am simply asking you if you have any evidence for the existence of God or whether you are honest enough to admit that you don’t, if you have none.

  • @proverbs2wisdom 2 Corinthians 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds.----

  • @proverbs2wisdom - Yes, but he rarely deos anythign about it, does he? he hears the prayers of the rightious and then looks the other way. Why do you think this is? Bu tanyway, you are changing the subject. I asked you politely if you had any proof for the existence of God. Do you have any? If you don't, would you be honest enough to admit ti? Or are you goingto change the subject and become abusive again?

  • @proverbs2wisdom Yes that's very nice.

    Why give me proof? Becaue I asked politely.

    Why refuse to give me proof? Because you don't have any.

    Its true, You are under no obligation to provide proof, nor is God. This is particularly true if you have no evidence and are attempting to hide it and God deosn't exist.

  • @proverbs2wisdom Ah so yo KNOW there is a god. In that case, could you show me the evidence you have that proves this? (If you could cut down on the random passages from the bible too that would be nice. You know, so we could talk like grown ups?)

  • God is so good! God is so good! God is so good-He's so good to me! God answers prayer! God answers prayer! God answers prayer-He's so good to me! I love Him so! I love Him so! I love Him so-He's so good to me!=)

  • (cont)My eye wastes away because of grief;it grows weak because of all my foes.Depart from me,all you workers of evil,for the Lord has heard the sound of my weeping.The Lord has heard my plea;the Lord accepts my prayer.all my enemies shall be ashamed and greatly troubled;they shall turn back and be put to shame in a moment.

  • Psalm 6 O Lord,rebuke me not in your anger,nor discipline me in your wrath.Be gracious to me,O Lord,for I am languishing;heal me,O Lord,for my bones are troubled.My soul also is greatly troubled.But you,O Lord-how long?Turn,O Lord,deliver my life;save me for the sake of your steadfast love.For in death there is no remembrance of you;in Sheol who will give you praise?I am weary with my moaning;every night I flood my bed with tears;I drench my couch with my weeping.

  • @proverbs2wisdom - No, you're right, I don't understand. You are saying I must be scared all the time and only then can I be intelligent? And intelligent people must ignore all the proof and evidence that the bible is historically, scientifically, and archeologically incorrect, becasue if you believe int hings for which ther eis proof, such as genetics, medicine or evolution you 'depise wisdom'?

  • Psalm 5:1,2 Give ear to my words,O Lord;consider my groaning.Give attention to the sound of my cry,my King and my God,for to you do I pray.

  • Thank You Lord for saving my soul! Thank You Lord for making me whole! Thank You Lord for giving to me Your great salvation so pure and free!

  • I know there's a God in heaven! He saves,He delivers,He heals! He gave His Son,the Lamb of God! The Savior the scripture reveals! I know there's a God in heaven! This God saves,He delivers,He heals! God's word doesn't sway,that's why its here today-I'm standing saved,delivered and healed!=)

  • @psalm964 - Yes, you know it in the same way as MUslim knows Allah is real. In the same way as viking knew Odin was real, in the same way as a Greek knew Zeus was real. I get that. I just wondered if you had any evidence at all?

    Proverbs _ I will understand if you can provide some evidence. Or if not, if yuo would be honest enough to admit you have none.

  • I will worship You for who You are,I will worship You for who You are-Jesus!

  • Happy Thanksgiving everyone-let us all not forget to be thankful for all God has done for us! Thank You Jesus!

  • @warriorforchrist4 Can we really recount everything He's done?There's too much to remember!

  • @revelationofjesus Psalm 103 tells us quite a bit about all God has done for us! He has#1 forgiven all your sins,#2 healed all your diseases,#3 redeemed you from hell,#4 crowned you with love and mercy,#5 satisfied you with good things!

  • @warriorforchrist4 You are back! I was getting so bored of pslams paranoid ramblings. Where were we?

    The bible mentions a talking snake. Is there any biological, historical or paleontological evidence that snakes could ever communicate verbally? Or do you believe in the bible’s account despite all available evidence showing it to be completely untrue?

  • @mycatistigger Sorry to bore you there Tigger.We christians get rather bored at the rantings and ravings of atheists and evolutionists as well! But,its all good.

  • @mycatistigger I'll answer your question if you answer mine-Do you believe in the supernatural?I'm not simply talking about God,but spirits,ghosts and the like.Hmmm?

  • @warriorforchrist4 No. I may be wrong, I don't claim to have God on my side, but no I don't. I thinkthere may be things we can't explain ...yet. That doesn't make them supenatural, just things we cannot yet explain.

    Your turn.

  • @mycatistigger  interesting.just curious.Reason I asked,is because if you don't believe the supernatural,then neither will you believe my explanation of your question!---how was your Thanksgiving,BTW?Do you celebrate it over in the Land Down Under?

  • @warriorforchrist4 - No thnksgiving here. We wiped out most of our indiginous people the same as the Americans, so maybe we should have. ..

    Your answer is going to be 'It was all done with magic!' again, isn't it?

  • @warriorforchrist4 Have a good Thanksgiving?Hope so brother!=)

  • @psalm964 Yes-Thanksgiving was excellent! Its really my favorite holiday!

  • I sing praises to Your name,O Most High! I sing praises to Your name,O Holy one! For You are holy and worthy to receive praises,praises to Your name!

  • @psalm964 Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,

  • ....,"who will show us some good?Lift up the light of your face upon us,O Lord!"You have put more joy in my heart than they have when their grain and wine abound.In peace I will both lie down and sleep;for you alone,O Lord,make me dwell in safety.

  • Psalm 4 Answer me when I call,O God of my righteousness!You have given me relief when I was in distress.Be gracious to me and hear my prayer!O men,how long shall my honor be turned into shame?How long will you love vain words and seek after lies?But know that the Lord has set apart the godly for himself;the Lord hears when I call to him.Be angry and do not sin;ponder in your own hearts on your beds,and be silent.Offer right sacrifices,and put your trust in the Lord.There are many who say...

  • @psalm964 God DOES answer us when we pray! How amazing He is.How many times in our lives has He given us relief when we were in distress.When our hearts were overwhelmed,and all seemed lost,and God stepped in and gave us peace! His peace that surpasses all understanding!

  • At the cross,at the cross where I first saw the light and the burdens of my heart rolled away! It was there by faith I received my sight and now I am happy all the day!

  • @psalm964 Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah I am mental, Blah blah blah blah blah...

  • Have Thine own way,Lord! Have Thine own way! You are the Potter,I am the clay! Mold me and make me after Thy will,as I am waiting yielded and still! Have Thine own way,Lord! Have Thine own way! Hold over my being absolute sway! Fill with Thy power til all shall see,Christ only always living in me!

  • All to Jesus I surrender,all to him I freely give! I will ever love and trust him,in his presence daily live! I surrender all! I surrender all! All to Thee my blessed Savior! I surrender all!

  • you break the teeth of the wicked.Salvation belongs to the Lord;your blessing be on your people!

  • Psalm 3 O Lord,how many are my foes!Many are rising against me;many are saying of my soul,there is no salvation for him in God.But you,O Lord,are a shield about me,my glory,and the lifter of my head.I cried aloud to the Lord,and he answered me from his holy hill.I lay down and slept;I woke again,for the Lord sustained me.I will not be afraid of many thousands of people who have set themsleves against me all around.Arise,O Lord!Save me,O my God!For you strike all my enemies on the cheek;

  • Its not by might,nor by power,but by My Spirit says the Lord of hosts! Not by might,nor by power,but by My Spirit says the Lord! This mountain shall be removed,this mountain shall be removed,this mountain shall be removed by My Spirit says the Lord!

  • Let God arise,and his enemies be scattered! Let God arise and his enemies be scattered! Let God arise and his enemies be scattered! Let God,let God arise!

  • @psalm964 Blah blah blah.

    Yadda yadda yadda....

  • Psalm 2:1-6 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?The kings of the earth set themselves,and the rulers take counsel together,against the Lord and against his Anointed,saying,"Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us."He who sits in the heavens laughs;the Lord holds them in derision.Then he will speak to them in his wrath and terrify them in his fury,saying,"As for me,I have set my King on Zion,my holy hill."

  • I have decided to follow Jesus! I have decided to follow Jesus! I have decided to follow Jesus! No turning back! No turning back!

  • I love You,I love You,I love You Lord today,because You cared for me in such a special way! That's why I praise You,I lift You up and I magnify Your name! That's why my heart is filled with praise!---my heart,my mind,my soul belong to you! You payed the price for me way back on calvary! That's why I praise You,I lift You up and I magnify Your name! That's why my heart is filled with praise!

  • I worship You,Almighty God,there is none like you!I worship You,O Prince of Peace,that is what I long to do! I give You praise,for You are my righteousness! I worship You,Almighty God,there is none like You

  • ....nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous;for the Lord knows the way of the righteous,but the way of the wicked will perish.

  • @psalm964

    Yes, keep taking the tablets. Shush now, grown ups talking.

  • @mycatistigger Laugh all you want-I will serve and praise my God forevermore!!! Do you really think I care what your opinion of me is?Nothing will stop me from serving the Lord!

  • Psalm 1 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,nor stands in the way of sinners,nor sits in the seat of scoffers;but his delight is in the law of the Lord,and on his law he meditates day and night.He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season,and its leaf does not wither.In all that he does he prospers.The wicked are not so,but are like chaff that the wind drives away.Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgement....

  • Could you be free from the burden of sin?There's power in the blood! Power in the blood! Could you over evil a victory win?There's wonderful power in the blood! There is power,power,wonder working power in the blood of the Lamb! There is power,power,wonder working power in the precious blood of the Lamb!

  • He is the King of kings! He is the Lord of lords! His name is Jesus,Jesus,Jesus,Jesus,oooooo­oh! He is the King!---the Lord reigneth,the Lord reigneth! Blessed be the name of the Lord! For the Lord our God is all-powerful! He reigns in majesty!---Bless the name of Jesus,praise the name of Jesus,sing unto the King of Israel! Bless the name of Jesus,praise the name of Jesus,sing unto the King of Israel! And we sing glory,glory,glory to His name forever! Glory,glory,glory to His name!

  • What a mighty God we serve! what a mighty God we serve! Angels bow before Him,heaven and earth adore Him! what a mighty God we serve!---Jesus is the mighty God we serve! Jesus is the mighty God we serve! angels bow before Him,heaven and earth adore Him,Jesus is the mighty God we serve!

  • Praise Him! Praise Him! Praise Him in the morning,praise Him in the noontime! Praise Him! Praise Him! Praise Him when the sun goes down!---Jesus,Jesus,Jesus in the morning,Jesus in the noontime! Jesus,Jesus,Jesus when the sun goes down!---we will serve Him! Serve Him! Serve Him in the morning,serve Him in the noontime! Serve Him! Serve Him! Serve Him when the sun goes down!

  • Psalm 150 Praise the Lord!Praise God in his sanctuary;praise him in his mighty heavens!Praise him for his mighty deeds;praise him according to his excellent greatness!Praise him with trumpet sound;praise him with lute and harp!Praise him with tambourine and dance;praise him with strings and pipe!Praise him with sounding cymbals;praise him with loud clashing cymbals!Let everything that has breath praise the Lord!Praise the Lord!

  • Yes, yes yes, lots of paranoia. The entire world is out to get you, blah blah blah. I’d suggest psychiatry but I expect psychiatrists are part of the world wide conspiracy as well. Now then, you cited the work of bene as definitive proof against evolution. Bene himself admitted his work is NOT definitive proof against evolution. So I guess we can dismiss it as such. But as you claim there is so

  • Holy,holy,holy Lord God Almighty! Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee! Only Thou art holy,there is none beside Thee! Perfect in power,in love and purity!

  • So, you are citing the work of Bene, and when Bene sates that his work does not disprove evolution, you say his work is tainted. Therefoere, you conclude, the world must have been made by MAGIC!The way you have to torture reality makes me admire you in a strange way. Such dedication inthe face of all available evidence. But given that your 'death blow to evolution is tainted , do you have any proper evidence? Or was that it?

  • @mycatistigger I say his work is tainted because he had to change the definition of what he was discovering to discover it.I have been around the field of evolution long enough to know what you do.It wouldn't be the first time Darwinian's would change things around to benefit their findings! It is too bad the world does not know all you have done! They would have to take down every book on Evolution on the shelf!

  • @mycatistigger Evidence?Tainted evidence.Evidence that is there,because evolution wants it to be there-all counter-proof discarded and washed over.You think you are sly,but in the end,it is your lies that will come to the light! What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his soul?----One day you will die.It is an inevitability.What will all of this profit you then,I wonder?I'll give you a simple first grade math problem,and let you discover its meaning.0+0=0 =)

  • @genesisevent2 So this guy Behe tainted evidence,and somehow was able to save evolution?Sounds like an evolutionist.I have heard of many occassions when they have tainted evidence and hidden things.If evolution were so true,they would just come out with the facts as is.Nice!

  • @warriorforchrist4 Easy to prove Darwinian science,when they change the definitions to fit what they want it to! And,while they are at it,they just take out the ones that give them a hard time.That is what Behe did.Evolution has been disproven-but think about it! Nearly the entire scientific world would be out of a job if evolution were ever debunked.Furthermore,Darwinian scientists would have to finally admit they were wrong,and that there is a God.

  • @genesisevent2 No offense,Genesis,but I think you may be wasting your time with old Tigger-dude.He is one of those hard-core evoltion guys,and even if you were to show him evidence,he would worm his way out of it,just like all evolution people do.Pray for him,move on.He will answer for himself one day.We have most certainly tried!

  • 1 Thessalonians 5:2,3 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.While people are saying,"there is peace and security,"then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman,and they will not escape.

  • @warriorforchrist4 You know,I thought there may have been some hope for Tigger-and there may still be-but as for right now in his life he wants to believe evolution,and will defy even logic and common sense to believe it.If he cannot see Behe distorted his study,then he is truly blind.Darwinian science lives on,but in the light of a tainted research investigation.One that will forever haunt them.Evolution isn't proven by fact-it is tainted by people who want it to be true.So much for science.

  • @genesisevent2 Sounds like you have been through quite a battle! But be encouraged! For we who know Him,He has proven Himself to us! Some scriptures to bless you-Genesis 15:6 And he(Abram)believed the Lord,and he counted it to him as righteousness.-Have faith like Abraham,believe His word and God will see you as righteous before Him!

  • @genesisevent2 Exodus 15:1-18 The song of Moses that the Israelites sang after God delivered them from Pharoah! Leviticus 19:1,2 God encourages us to be holy,because He is holy! Numbers 6:24-26 is Aaron's blessing upon the children of Israel,and still can be prayed by us today! Dueteronomy 4:32-40 God tells the Israelites how special they are to Him,and how He alone is God!

  • @genesisevent2 Psalm 1 encourages us not to listen to the wicked,but to listen to God's word.It also shows us the difference between the life of a righteous and a wicked person.One that may be the best of all is Psalm 73.It shows the end of the wicked.When it looks like all they do us prosper,and all goes well with them,and they renounce God and continue to prosper-the bible teaches us to remind ourself of their end.What will it reward them in the end?

  • @genesisevent2 Matthew 5:10-12 Jesus tells us we are blessed when we are persecuted for His sake! When we are persecuted,and talk behind your back,and lie,the bible says rejoice for great is your reward in heaven! If they hated Jesus,they will hate us!Blessings in Christ!

  • @warriorforchrist4 thanks! =)

  • much proof for creationism I’m sure you can just produce another piece out of your bag of nonsense. Try to make it better than the last one though.

    I asked a question regarding talking snakes. The bible mentions a talking snake. Is there any biological, historical or paleontological evidence that snakes could ever communicate verbally? Or do you believe in the bible’s account despite all available evidence showing it to be completely untrue?

  • Perhaps you can answer this: The bible states there was a talking snake.

    Is there any other example of talking snakes anywhere documented, recorded, photgraphed or filmed? Or does the bible have absoltuely no evidence of any form to show it is correct in this matter and all available evidence suggests it is wrong?

  • Behe had to change and broaden the definition of Irreducible Complexity,away from Darwin's theory and to a favorable one for Evolution.That makes his evidence and research tainted.why?because,otherwise Evolution would have been dead-and yet in fact it is.

  • @genesisevent2 Behe debunked evolution

  • @genesisevent2 whered he go?

  • There is only one God-there is only one King-there is only one body in Christ-that is why we sing!

  • Oh I see! Something is complicated therefore it must have been made by magic! And there was me thinking you had some proof FOR creationism. How silly. It was magic all along.

    “scientists are finding out that cells are extremely complexed’ so they must have been made by Magic!

    “The Bacterial Flagellum has many parts” so it must have been made by magic!”

    Darwinian scientists cannot explain this so it must have been made by Magic!”

    Oh what a death blow to evolution that is.

  • Throw out natural selection, genetics, medicine, the cave men were right all along, everything is magic. Is that Thunder I hear? Must be Thor and his chariot pulled by goats. Or to put it another way; you have proven that neture is complex. That is NOT proof

    of ‘creationism.’

    Niall Shanks and Karl H. Joplin, both of East Tennessee State University, have shown that systems satisfying Behe's characterization of irreducible biochemical complexity can arise naturally and

  • spontaneously as the result of self-organizing chemical processes. In April 2006 a team led by Joe Thornton, assistant professor of biology at the University of Oregon's Center for Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, using techniques for resurrecting ancient genes, scientists for the first time reconstructed the evolution of an apparently irreducibly complex molecular system. The research was published in the April 7 issue of Science. Behe himself acknowledges that his work does not

  • @mycatistigger Furthermore,Behe had to redefine irreducable complexity,to justify any data he found! Why would he do that?Because,as the definition stood,it was a FATAl blow to evolution.They couldn't have that now,could they! How convenient.His tests were only confirmed under a new,broadened version of Irreducable complexity.Funny how Darwinians do that isn't it?

  • @mycatistigger The problem now,is that the data is tainted.Science is always based upon the evidence of findings,and Behe did a great job of saving his futile cult of Darwinian science by altering his methods.Hooray for him.But,it still does not prove the data true.In fact,it taints ANY research he has done.-----keep trying=)

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  • No I can't but there is evidence for it. Therefore:

    Big bang theory = Evidence.

    Evolution = Evidence

    Creationism = Magic

    Noah = Magic

  • @mycatistigger I will revise your statement a bit,to be more accurate.

    Big Bang theory=theory

    evolution=theory

    creationism=theory with believable proof

    noah=a man of God  =)

  • Big bang theory = theory supported by evidence.

    Evolution = theory supported by evidence.

    Creaionism= theory unsupported by evidence, dependant upon magic.

    Noah, Liked a drink, cursed his own chidlren, lived in a magic boat = fairy story dependant on magic.

  • @mycatistigger We'll see if you can prove it! Enough talk.Time to get down and dirty,and see where the evidence leads us! How is your biology,and micro-biology?good,I hope,because evolution is about to take a fatal blow.Hope you payed attention in class!

  • @mycatistigger Ever heard of Bacterial Flagellum?If not,you are about to see a fatal blow to natural selection.When Darwin first came up with his theory of evolution,he had no idea of the actual makeup of living cells.In fact,it would be many years before scientists could actually magnify cells to a degree where they would actually be able to define its make up.They thought cells were,for lack of a better term,blobs of protein,with no definitive make up.That would fit very well....

  • @mycatistigger .....into the theory of natural selection,since they were perceived as noncomplicated organisms incapable of complexed functions,actions and reactions.New evidence,one cell standing out above the others,is a cell known as the Bacterial Flagellum.Natural selection suggests organisms,over time,adapt according to outside forces at a slow rate of speed and gradually over time.The new evidence regarding cells is effectively destroying this theory,as scientists are finding out.....

  • @mycatistigger that cells are extremely complexed,and have many functions that are interrelated to one another,and cannot function without the other.The Bacterial Flagellum has been called "the most efficient machine on earth."It has many parts-a propellor,a drive shaft,a motor,sensors-over 30 parts that function as one working unit,and cannot function without one another.It is effectively a motor inside the body that works up to 100,000 rpm,can stop on a dime,rotate 1/4 turn and instantly....

  • @mycatistigger ....and instantly rev up tp 100,000 rpm again.These cells cannot function without one another,and instantly point to intelligent design,as there is no way,over time,these parts could have developed by chance natural selection.----Now,before you answer there are some things you must know.It is NOT just creationist scientists that have agreed with this.Even Darwinian scienctists have no plausible explanation through natural selection to explain this.

  • @mycatistigger The top Darwinian scientists in the world have no answer for this amazing marvel of the human body.So,I know you will not either.Proof #1 for creation-better get a respirator,because evolution is flatlining.=)

  • prove the impossibility of such an evolution.

    Wow, that fatal blow was a bit of a let down wasn’t it? How disappointing. Okay my turn.

    In your book of stories God created the sun on the fourth day.

    In you book of stories there was light before the sun and stars were created was created.

    But there are no days or light without the sun and stars.

    Oh don’t tell me they were MAGIC days and MAGIC light. Made with MAGIC?

  • @mycatistigger lol =) Do you really think I would give the proof without being able to give the explanation?You're a funny guy.The theory is known as IRREDUCIBLE COMPLEXITY.It states that a cell cannot function without all parts of the cell working together and in unison.Meaning,that for a cell to function,all working parts MUST be there,and means that they could not have evolved at a slow rate of speed,or the cell would not have functioned.Are you following me?It also means that....

  • @mycatistigger ....it could not have developed by chance evolution,because #1 the cell is far too complexed for that,and #2 again the cell would not have been able to function without all working parts.Simple as that.You are not impressed?That only shows you know very little of biology.Because it has astonished the scientific community-Creationist and Darwinian alike.

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  • @mycatistigger LIGHT BEFORE THE SUN-would you like another scientific definition?Did you know nothing can exist without light?Scientific fact-light is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum-the electromagnetic spectrum is necessary for the formation of all molecules-without the electromagnetic spectrum you have no 'Columb Effect'-No 'Columb Effect',no matter.=)Thank you for helping me give proof #2 for Creation.

  • Sorry. Point remains though.

    Evolution = Evidence.

    Big bnag theory = Evidence.

    Cretaionism = Magic.

    Noah = Magic.

  • @mycatistigger Evidence or theory.You cannot PROVE the big bang.Nice try.

  • @mycatistigger Go back in time,if humanity ever figures that one out,and see for yourself.bring back video,then you can tell me you have proven it.

  • I think we have had this conversation before. We do not know how the universe began. Astronomical observations lead to the idea of an expanding, cooling universe. Hence we believe in the big bang.

    There is masses of evidence for evolution. Hence we believe in evolution.

    Evidence for God invented everything in 7 days’ oh that’s right. There is none. But that’s alright. God did it with magic so you don’t need evidence.

  • @mycatistigger Actually,we have not had this conversation before.You must be confusing me with someone else.=)

  • @mycatistigger No evidence,you say?Ofcourse there is evidence.And the observations you make regarding the supposed 'big bang',may or may not be right.Were you there?Was I there?No on both counts.Therefore theorize all you want.We still cannot figure out past civilizations that lived ON THIS EARTH.and,you mean to tell me scientists know how this universe was made?They don't even know all there is to know about our oceans,and they know the beginning of the existence of all things?

  • I will not believe the biblical accoutn if it involves the use of magic. We can continue the discussion but I cna't really see th epoint if you have a 'get out of jail' free card of 'God made it like that using magic' to explain any of the many contradictions in the biblcial acount. I know magic is an integral part of christian belief but could we agree that magic is not a reasonable explanation?

  • @mycatistigger lol-you want to talk about magic?Apparently you cannot get off the subject,so whatever floats your boat.Here's some magic for you-how about the 'magical' moment scientists say caused the 'big bang'?

    Food for thought for the intelligent in thought=)

    Magically,all the right events led up to the explosion of the millenia?If this occurred,then why have we seen it again?Since we have not,we would have to assume it is a rare event in our universe.So rare,the odds.....

  • @mycatistigger .....that it is astronomical.We haver been able to reproduce this theoretical event,but in a controlled environment.In a non-controlled environment,it is nearly impossible the odds that this event would have occurred.=)Or how about 'magic'#2 of evolution.The so-called 'dark energy'that is pulling apart the universe.What is causing the universe to expand?In the words of modern science,a 'dark energy' that no one knows about.How's that for definitive science,hmmm?

  • @mycatistigger Atleast for we Christians we can put a tag on it-it is God! For science,well,they know but they just don't know.Interesting.Would you like to go back to facts or do you still want to play the magic game?

  • Evidence for Noah building a magic arc that fitted all the animals that magically got to the middle east and magically fitted inside and then ate food that magically appeared and then magically the magic trees came back to life by magic. None but you don’t need any because it was magic.

    I don’t think there is a ‘magic game’ unless it is ‘Ways I can get out of my claims making no sens eat all ‘ and you are the only one playing that.

  • If so,I will be back online Monday.Let me know what you think!

  • Your secondary theory that all the trees were magic and came back to life? Shall we call that the 'magic theory'? So lets go over this again; Noah bult a magic boat, and all the animals got to the boat using magic. They got on the magic boat and all their food appeared magically and the magic boat floated along on the sea and when the flood magically stopped all the trees magically came back to life. Is that about right?

  • @mycatistigger lol-laugh if you want! As I said,there is PLENTY of physical evidence that a flood occurred.Shall we go through them all?I must commend you,and give credit where credit is due.I was finally waiting for you to come up with a valid point,and you did.The question of trees is a very valid question,and demands answering.----There is no question you will not believe the biblical account of the flood.Of that you have made clear.However,as I also said,there is plenty of physical evidence

  • @mycatistigger to show a flood covered the earth at one point in time! Shall we go there,or are you not up to the challenge?=)

  • Oh, I see. It was magic. Noah built a boat, and it wasn't big enough to fit all the animals in. But it was a magic boat. And because it was magic all the animals could fit in event though there wasn’t enough room! And then the flood came and

  • @mycatistigger God brought the animals to Noah,God caused the flood waters to come,and God closed the door of the ark.God caused the rains to stop,and took care of them all the way through the ordeal.----Yep.

  • @mycatistigger There is plenty of evidence pointing to a flood,even if you do not believe the biblical account.More than enough to silence any critic.You have one valid point to counter.That is all! But,if you want to hang onto that one point go ahead.I believe my secondary theory is very feasible and possible.=)

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  • Wow, it really is amazing to meet someone as uneducated as yourself. I’ll try and explain as simply as I can.

    1) If you immerse a tree in water it will die. This is not my opinion. This is established fact. If you have problems believing this I suggest you buy a book on biology. One designed for fifteen year old students should be complex enough.

    2) Trees immersed

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  • @mycatistigger A second proposed theory-God once again starting from scratch.This,I believe is a much more plausible theory for creationists regarding this issue.If God created something out of nothing to begin with,He could most certainly do it again.=)

  • all the animals had food in the boat, which wasn't big enough to fit all their food in, but it was Magic so the food appeared by magic! And al the trees drowned but they were magic trees! So they all came back to life!

    Tell me, how did animals like the kangaroo get to the middle-east? No, don’t tell me… it was by Magic. They magically got their on magic flying carpets?

  • @mycatistigger Magic,huh?I guess for someone who does not believe in God,that is what you would think!=)

  • in water, particularly salt water, for the length of time claimed by the Bible for the flood will die.

    3) Trees in New Orleans were either not totally immersed or were immersed only temporarily. If they had been immersed for the length of time claimed by the bible for the flood they would die.

    4) Some seeds can survive in water. Some seeds cannot. Most can survive in water for only a short length of time. This is not my opinion. If you have a problem believing this I suggest

  • @mycatistigger And,you are also saying that the length of time it took for the flood would have killed off all the trees.----There has been a lot of debate about some of the events that have taken place during the flood.Some are physically impossible,such as Noah being able to gather all the animals into one place.While for a human this may not be possible,for God it is not.