At the Price of Oblivion - 17 Savior of the Dreaming Dead

[130cookies]

THIS IS THE SONG THEY PLAYED WHEN YOU PLAYED AS JOHN IN THAT PLACE! You know, when he had to find the car?

I can regonize this tune anywhere~

It's simply so nostalgic.

[Imissyouesmirelda]

this song always always always gets to me. heart strings are sick of being tugged.

[stencilsparkler]

this needs to be two seconds shorter.

[PandaBearInASuit]

My feelings about Vriska are the same as they are for 4chan.

Not sure if I am in love or wishing to burn it to the ground.

[mithphoenix0511]

@Makadoros consider space and time fucked. Cuz shit just got real

[cthulhlu]

@mithphoenix0511 Pose as a Team!

[TheWarnerSister]

Jesus, how many times does this poor kid have to die.

[littlecreamsodababy]

Reminds me of ATLA a little bit

[TheShieldsMD]

Why does Dave look like Calvin in the picture?

[CraniumMaddoo]

Of course we always have to bring up Vriska. It's always Vriska. Love her, hate her, bluh bluh arguments and debates. Seriously guys just enjoy the music. :0

[vitriolicAmaranth]

@CraniumMaddoo 8ut 8ut, VRISKA. I mean, VRISKAAAAAAAA. Come on 8ro.

But yeah, hussie basically made her the main character for a pretty hefty miniarc of the story, then killed her off, and she is seemingly permadead (he even provided closure to her story with the scene with beta-john in the Dream Bubble). I think it's natural that the fandom is going to stir about it for a while.

[cthulhlu]

@vitriolicAmaranth Variska was EVIL, after all the shit she pulled she deserved to die.

[vitriolicAmaranth]

@cthulhlu Not sure if trolling or 8ase8roken.

[cthulhlu]

@vitriolicAmaranth i was kinda sleep deprived when i wrote that, but i do get annoyed at the love she gets, she blinded a girl, crippled a boy for fun and then mind raped him into kissing her, and while i know she was locked into the events in order to maintain the alpha timeline, She was Directly responsible for Beck Noir! eeeeeevilll!

[vitriolicAmaranth]

@cthulhlu I'm not going to deny and in-canon she does not deny that she's a bad "person," but her actions are understandable to a degree. She has a terrible temper and a giant lusus to feed. She blinded Terezi because Terezi took her eye and arm, which Terezi did because Doc goaded Vriska into killing Aradia, which she did because of Aradia's reaction to her trying to kill Tavros for her lusus. Actually, the only thing she had a choice in was Bec, who would have appeared with or without her.

[Sarkavonsy]

@vitriolicAmaranth Well hey she certainly did choose to stab Tavros in the chest.

[KKph33rKK]

3:30

dat ninja glare

[801Milcah]

The photo reminds me of the movie Black Swan XD

[Nightcat99]

I don't understand why everyone wants Vriska back. She's THE bitch of Homestuck. Nothing positive about her I can think of :I

[Ottrond]

@Nightcat99 Hey can we be friends? I hate that huge bitch. bluh.

[Nightcat99]

@Ottrond Heh sure ;) 

[Frankenollies]

@Nightcat99 She was an entertaining character? She was on the brink of turning into a good person? She (arguably) made sure that the kids timeline didn't get doomed by ensuring everything happened at the right moment? And when you compare her morally to other characters in Homestuck, she's not nearly as bad as, say, Jack Noir, Eridan, sober!Gamzee, Doc Scratch, Lord English, Betty Crocker... I can go on, if you want.

[KagariAsuha]

@Frankenollies Not to mention how radically different the troll's culture is from ours. She was honestly just trying to be the best troll she could be -- it was what her society expected from her. She even admitted, near her death, that it wasn't what she personally wanted for herself, and that being a 'soft human' might not be all that bad. <3

[SonikFan80]

@Frankenollies She was on the brink of turning into a good person? After she had murdered Tavros? Besides, she DID fuck up the timeline at one point. By fighting Jack Noir, she threw them into a doomed timeline. Terezi just decided to kill her in the main timeline.

[Frankenollies]

@SonikFan80 Point taken about the timeline (although I did say 'arguably'), but as for the Tavros thing, check out page 005367. She's just a confused 13-year-old alien! But man, whatever, I don't really care that much what other people think about Vriska. If you hate her for being a bully, that's totally legit too.

[SonikFan80]

@Frankenollies Yes, a confused 13 old girl, but still a murderer. What about Eridan? You could say he was a confused 13 year old boy. I dunno, I just really dislike Vriska. I feel she's sort of a Mary Sue because he has such a major effect on the story. I dunno, man.

[130cookies]

@SonikFan80 I don't think Vriska's a Mary Sue. I think you are miss-using that term. Mary Suas are OCs created to be "Little Miss Perfect" so that they can get their lust objects' attention and have their love. And penis.

So I think you should just know the term 'Mary Sue' before going throwing it around at characters like that.

...

I didn't mean to be a smart-assed prick-faced stick-shoved-up-my=ass kind of person, really! I'm sorry! ;A;

[SonikFan80]

@130cookies I don't mean Mary Sue, I guess, maybe "overpowered". It just annoys me that she has SO MUCH of an effect on the story, compared to every other kid or troll. She was also able to engage in a one on one with Jack Noir and probably WIN, which John, Dave, Rose, and most of the other trolls most likely wouldn't of been able to do, even in god tier.

[130cookies]

@SonikFan80 Well, I guess it's because Hussie likes her character a wee bit more than the others, even if she acts like a bossy kind of chick. I can't hate her, honestly, because I think shes really funny. For some reason... But back to your point, it's because this is Homestuck? I mean, interesting ( yet really mean ) characters like her comes in once in a while, so I guess it was a good idea for them to use Vriska as that kind of character for Homestuck - instead of an -actual- Mary Sue.

[SonikFan80]

@130cookies Maybe I'm just pissed because she killed Tavros.

Damn you, spider bitch!

[noideausernamename]

more proof dave is satan

[GrandGetsuga0]

Kinda funny that this is Dave's theme but it is played when Jade got tiger.

[Retrofiuter]

@GrandGetsuga0 This isn't Dave's theme........

[GrandGetsuga0]

@Retrofiuter

Well originally I thought it was, with Dave's pic in the background.

[vegetablehazzard]

why is Dave bleeding out feathers? XD

[7overfour]

jade

[UtauloidFail]

I can never hear this without thinking of how awesome Jade is now XD

[avrophantasm]

Easily my favourite part of the EoA5 flash.

[kokiri8890]

It was in the flash guys. I started crying because I was so happy that it was.

[CSDragon31]

@kokiri8890 Same here.

[kokiri8890]

@kokiri8890 I'm actually still shaking. I can't listen to it without getting all gittery anymore.

[Maphysto]

@kokiri8890 Oh no Jade died but wait, where's he taking here-OH SHIT QUEST BED AND NOW SHE'S GOT GODLIKE POWERS OVER SPACE AND THE TWO UNIVERSES ARE ABOUT TO BE DESTROYED AND THE GREEN SUN AND OHHHHH FUUUUUUCK

[DeRagon3333]

{spoilers]

You, WE, were right. God tier. You were almost right. You were close. eoa. oh my god.

[inferno232]

The EOA:

Hussie doing his arm-flailing dance to this music. It is then followed by a seemingly-random sequence of events set to upbeat music. Then, as the video fades to black, large text appears, reading, "END OF HOMESTUCK."

Fans then continue to argue amongst themselves for years about the true meaning of the ending.

[Omnimegas]

Someone better be getting a tiger to this song or I swear to god, Hussie.

[Dokph]

For that is not dead which eternal lie, and trough strange aeons even death may die?

[OfficialHayleyNicole]

The replay button has been raped :Db

[Kaern15]

Oh god, this song reminds me of the "Suicide run" in Mass Effect 2

Shit is gonna hit th- I mean

Faeces are going to hit the circulating device.

OT : I really hope Karkat and Gamzee will survive, that Tavros and Nepeta will come back and that Eridan will stay dead.

What, that's what he deserves...

[xXxMadCheshire]

This song gives me hope that everyone will stay alive... And also gives me chills, hm.

[kaitwospirit]

Jade can't even get tiger now that her dream self is dead, right?

[JacketJackal]

@kaitwospirit Actually, I think her sprite is her dream self now so it may be possible she is the fourth and last god tier.

[GiltCipher]

@JacketJackal

Dave could theoretically also still reach it, either through Davesprite's death or that of another beta-Dave

[pedros1212]

@JacketJackal lol andrew hussie has a god tier sweater.its pretty funny XD

[CosmicSam95]

@kaitwospirit no-one can get the Got Tiger, it is simply too fast

[GirlofNinten]

We got the disc back. Act 6 will be there soon. I don't know what song is going to be used in the EoA-flash but I sure am -EXCIT--------ED!!!!!!!!!

[Makadoros]

No, even as Terezi said, Dave will not reach god tier unless someone fucks up space and time. (Probably gonna happen)

[0822kitten]

@Makadoros Lord English happened. Space and Time were messed up.

And then dave went God Tier. Twice.

[impossimadnescyAJ]

@Makadoros This comment is actually pretty hilarious in hindsight.

[cthulhlu]

@Makadoros Tims and space have been fucked so hard they locked themselves in the bathroom with a bucket of soothing creme..

[cthulhlu]

@cthulhlu time was also fucked... poor tims.. he never was it comeing..

[JacobAndSierra]

@cthulhlu ...b-bucket?...BUCKET?

[TheShieldsMD]

@Makadoros Oh god, I feel like Karkat's future self reading the memos! The EOA animation will be awesome, past people!

[TenthSpeedWriter]

@Makadoros You do realize that's the essence of this series? : P

[Metafan459]

@Makadoros EOA5- turns out, THEY DID! XD

sorry, I had to. <3

[inferno232]

@Makadoros Well, they certainly fucked up space, that's for sure.

[Havenshardlight]

@Makadoros Shooosh... only doomed timelines now.

[thenukeknowsall]

Maybe dave is going to be the next god tier?

[Tegauret]

EOA8.

All the dead and dreaming revive and then got tiger multiple times. Dave manages to do it 413 times through time shenanigans. Then everyone and Bec Noir face off against Lord English.

The flash is so long it qualifies as its own act.

[BreakDamageLimit]

@Tegauret Pity there's only 7 Acts.

[OchaKai]

That image made my neck feel itchy. And I just took that syndrome vaccine, too.

[Sarkavonsy]

@OchaKai That image made my neck feel bloody. And covered with orange feathers. While I was wearing a Green Suit. And shades. And my eyes were closed. And the universe behind me was a nondescript gray background. And I was Dave. And epic music was playing.

[DemunSemun]

This is definitely being used in the flash where they make Dave go God Tier.

[UpsidePickle]

I don't even want to listen to this song, I'm so excited for if it's ever going to be used in a flash. I want to save my awe.

[Chatboy91]

Really looking forward to when this i used in a flash.

[BoxRetarded]

<3 I love this so much <3

[pjunk]

I agree that Hussie is hard to predict, but if I allow my imagination to go wild, the title and accompanying art make me picture the dead Daves and Aradia teaming up to bring the dead back or make them useful somehow, perhaps through some sort of manipulation of the dream bubbles.

[DoomsdayOdd]

EOA7 music

(presuming 7 to be the last act.)

[genericity]

oh yeah but let's not forget that "savior of the waking world" was essentially meaningless, john didn't save anything, all he did was come back to life

[inferno232]

@genericity Naw, wasn't really. The "savior" bit was likely a comparison to a certain religious figure who pulled a similar stunt.

[genericity]

@inferno232 ...except he still never saved anything, so is not a savior

[inferno232]

@genericity It could have been just an allusion to the theme of resurrection, man. Just a reference/little foreshadowing, not a title for John himself.

[StopRunningKid]

@inferno232 D --> Hey man, I'm just as hopeful as you are that something epic is going to happen. I'm kind of pissed off that Hussie has just been suddenly taking out everyone, and I hope it is for some epic revival. I mean, I do doubt that the all these dead trolls would just remain dead and unheard from for like another two years in the story. That just kind of sucks, but Hussie has been pretty brutal on his fans lately.

[DoomsdayOdd]

@genericity that was a song that was named for thematic purposes.

this song was probably named specifically to set up expectations.

[LastCrusader92]

This is what plays when John defeats Jack Noir in my headcanon

[youraftermyrobotbee]

Aww, poor deluded fans clinging to their foolish hope that Hussie will throw them a bone somehow.

If anything, this is the theme for John's heroic sacrifice and permadeath.

[StopRunningKid]

@youraftermyrobotbee It's just a thought dick face.

[inferno232]

@youraftermyrobotbee Dude, I'm not expecting Hussie to "Throw me a bone", I've just got enough common sense to realize he's planning another mindscrew. I don't think he's killing characters off left and right just for "SUCK ON IT, FOOLS" shock value, I think he has something planned with at least some of the dead characters. I mean, I for one had written Kanaya as dead, and he STILL wasn't done with her. I thought Gamzee was a satellite character, and he made him into a villain.

[inferno232]

@youraftermyrobotbee Point is, I assume nothing when it comes to Homestuck other than whatever it is Hussie pulls is usually very, very hard to foresee. And I really don't think he's pulling twists just to upset fans. I mean, yeah, guy's got a sense of humor and likes to prod the fanbase from time to time, but when it comes to the main plotline he usually doesn't screw around.

[StopRunningKid]

Okay, here is what I see. This will be an e%tremely well done flash where everything is a smooth animation and for the first time, they get voices. The flash starts during the middle of the fight. Bec Noir just pretty much killed Vriska. John runs to her on the floor. In her last words while John holds her, she tells him to get out of there so he can live. He refuses, then Bec laughs while saying "John can't leave, I need to kill him." Then the guitar comes in as a bright light appears.

[StopRunningKid]

@StopRunningKid For some reason this fight is in a valley surrounded by cliffs, and the light shines brightly across the sky. Bec doesn't know what's going on. Suddenly you see (By the way, everyone else died) 14 silhouettes on the cliffs lined up. The light is blasting from behind them. When the light fades, you see all the dead characters in God Tier with weapons. Equius with some metal bow, Nepeta with bigger better claws, etc. Then they fight an amazing fight to finish the series... and win.

[babiesinajar]

the only thing i can think of while listening to the song is one big revival flash where everyone isn't dead.

that would be great

[genericity]

@babiesinajar dave will probably lead an army of all the dead daves in their dream bubbles, just like aradia had her army of doomed clones

[MerriestMick686]

@babiesinajar And then Gamzee kills them all.

honk :o)

[deadpoolismyfather]

@babiesinajar Evverone except Eridan. Forevver Alone.

[TheFriendlyNeighbour]

@babiesinajar sorry to dissapoint you

but nope

[Maphysto]

@babiesinajar I don't care about the others.

Just bring back Vriska.

[elronman]

@Maphysto pfft. shes dead and it said next to her name so we know that there is OBVIOUSLY no way for her to come back.

[AdmiralGoatse]

@elronman Fuck you Vriska can't 8e dead fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you!!!!!!!!

[elronman]

@AdmiralGoatse whoops should have said *O8VIOUSLY dead.*

yep she dead.

[Penningtontj]

@AdmiralGoatse Oh come on man, you're acting like death is something that's permanent or a condition that will stop them having an impact on the story, which we all know is nonsense when it comes to Homestuck.

[AdmiralGoatse]

@Penningtontj That's what I'm counting on ::::'(

My theory is that since we now know that they don't actually have to die *on* the quest 8eds is that someone's gonna 8ring Fef to hers and she'll use her newly acquired tiger to "Witch of Life" everyone 8ack.

Everyone except Eridan.

Fuck Eridan.

[Penningtontj]

@AdmiralGoatse I've been wondering, what the hell is this "get tiger" thing everyone seems to be saying in reference to God Tier?

Oh, and if what you need to revive people is a Hero of Life, it's been implied that Jane Crocker might be that hero."Made" for it, you might say.

[HydropolisCity]

@Penningtontj On Andrew's formspring, someone asked him about characters going "God Tier", but accidentally spelled it "Got Tiger". Andrew responded that they couldn't Got Tiger because it was too fast, and thus was born a meme.

[dccmpbll]

@AdmiralGoatse well now we know Jane can use her life powers too, of course having corpses sitting around decapitated for three years doesn't seem very hopeful for their resurrection

[oliviacccc]

please don't let the art be foreshadowing or something

[OceanicCamels]

@oliviacccc

Maybe it would be if it hadn't already happened

[oliviacccc]

@OceanicCamels apparently I can't think at all when I have too much coffee. Derp

[arccollins]

Everything about this song is fantastic, including, if not especially, the title.