The harp player is my good friend Rocco "Clams" Scazzapatorismegmettifunicullifunicullaronzonisonobuonibebopalula (a.k.a. Jon Paris) and he plays every Tueday night at Bosco's Lounge on 199th Avenue in Ozone Park.
Hey, could someone point me to an account of what Clapton said to Jack and Ginger when he told them he wanted out? I've read and reread E.C.'s autobiography and he never tells how he broke it to them. It seems like one of the big omissions from the book to me. He makes it pretty clear that Ginger's heroin use was was at or near the top of his list of reasons for dissatisfaction. Was it because of the way he played on it or some other reason? Send me an email if you want to rap!
@Mortslake Yeah, it was, but E.C., for all intents and purposes, admits that he overstated its importance (until the book) for the sake of diplomacy. I had never read anything about Ginger's heroin habit; I'm guessing he (E.C.) didn't feel it was his place to disclose it or draw attention to it. He clearly states his admiration and affection for Baker, and doesn't do the same with regards to Bruce, which in the context of the book, seems a strong clue to me. -Peace-
@Mortslake Hey, thanks man; I'm thrilled to know where to read their versions of that particular story! For some reason I hadn't even thought that they might have done books.
@Mortslake Thanks again. I found 'em both online last night, and started checking out Jack's on Amazon. I was blown away to see that Clapton wrote the forward. Among other reasons for my surprise is the fact that E.C. was very disappointed in the New York reunion shows, opining that they didn't rehearse enough, and I was figuring he blamed that on Jack... I'm sure I'll love both books. -Take Care-
@jimirymodestoca after going to this show at b.b. king's, i'm wondering if it's important what happened to clapton at all, Bruce is better off without him, they sound better than cream ever did.
@jimirymodestoca I think he (and jack and ginger) thought they took it about as far at it could go. Clapton wanted to go back and explore roots music. He was heavily influenced by The Band at that time and was looking for a more authentic, melodic approach. The constant touring and insane jamming between those 3 had to take a toll. It must have been exhausting while also precluding going in another direction. I for one am glad they broke up. It gave Jack the opportunity to really shine.
I think he (and jack and ginger) thought they took it about as far at it could go. Clapton wanted to go back and explore roots music. He was heavily influenced by The Band at that time and was looking for a more authentic, melodic approach. The constant touring and insane jamming between those 3 had to take a toll. It must have been exhausting while also precluding going in another direction. I for one am glad they broke up. It gave Jack the opportunity to really shine.
The harp player is my good friend Rocco "Clams" Scazzapatorismegmettifunicullifunicullaronzonisonobuonibebopalula (a.k.a. Jon Paris) and he plays every Tueday night at Bosco's Lounge on 199th Avenue in Ozone Park.
Bopalena 2 months ago
That is not Musslewhite on harp. I don't know who it is.
bamboosa 9 months ago
who are the guys playin'with Jack? Is Charles Musselwhite the harmonicist?
jennensis 1 year ago
AW i cant believe i missed this, this was on my birthday too!
poorperson 1 year ago
Hey, could someone point me to an account of what Clapton said to Jack and Ginger when he told them he wanted out? I've read and reread E.C.'s autobiography and he never tells how he broke it to them. It seems like one of the big omissions from the book to me. He makes it pretty clear that Ginger's heroin use was was at or near the top of his list of reasons for dissatisfaction. Was it because of the way he played on it or some other reason? Send me an email if you want to rap!
jimirymodestoca 1 year ago
@jimirymodestoca The tension between Jack bruce & Ginger Baker seems to have been a big factor..
Mortslake 1 year ago
@Mortslake Yeah, it was, but E.C., for all intents and purposes, admits that he overstated its importance (until the book) for the sake of diplomacy. I had never read anything about Ginger's heroin habit; I'm guessing he (E.C.) didn't feel it was his place to disclose it or draw attention to it. He clearly states his admiration and affection for Baker, and doesn't do the same with regards to Bruce, which in the context of the book, seems a strong clue to me. -Peace-
jimirymodestoca 1 year ago
@jimirymodestoca read JAck Bruces autobio and Gingers and youll get a better pic..
Mortslake 1 year ago 2
@Mortslake Hey, thanks man; I'm thrilled to know where to read their versions of that particular story! For some reason I hadn't even thought that they might have done books.
jimirymodestoca 1 year ago
@jimirymodestoca Ginger bakers is called "Hellraiser" and Jacks is "Jack Bruce composing himself".. Amazon sells em..
Mortslake 1 year ago
@Mortslake Thanks again. I found 'em both online last night, and started checking out Jack's on Amazon. I was blown away to see that Clapton wrote the forward. Among other reasons for my surprise is the fact that E.C. was very disappointed in the New York reunion shows, opining that they didn't rehearse enough, and I was figuring he blamed that on Jack... I'm sure I'll love both books. -Take Care-
jimirymodestoca 1 year ago
@jimirymodestoca after going to this show at b.b. king's, i'm wondering if it's important what happened to clapton at all, Bruce is better off without him, they sound better than cream ever did.
lifehouse57 1 year ago
@jimirymodestoca I think he (and jack and ginger) thought they took it about as far at it could go. Clapton wanted to go back and explore roots music. He was heavily influenced by The Band at that time and was looking for a more authentic, melodic approach. The constant touring and insane jamming between those 3 had to take a toll. It must have been exhausting while also precluding going in another direction. I for one am glad they broke up. It gave Jack the opportunity to really shine.
VIDJACK 1 year ago
I think he (and jack and ginger) thought they took it about as far at it could go. Clapton wanted to go back and explore roots music. He was heavily influenced by The Band at that time and was looking for a more authentic, melodic approach. The constant touring and insane jamming between those 3 had to take a toll. It must have been exhausting while also precluding going in another direction. I for one am glad they broke up. It gave Jack the opportunity to really shine.
VIDJACK 1 year ago
iwas at this show close enough to see the fingerprints on jacks bass
phs9452 1 year ago 3
@phs9452 bloody jealous
janeythebrit 3 months ago
@janeythebrit i was sitting at the same table in 2001 for the cuicoland express.seeing jack is almost a religous experience,but you know that
phs9452 3 months ago
Thanks for posting!!!
proferic 1 year ago 2