Drum Solo in 7/4 (er, most of the time, anyway!)

[TheSquareOnes]

I had no idea Jimmy Carr was such a great drummer. Nice work.

[jouxplan]

@TheSquareOnes Ha!

[emiel4sma]

How do you count a measure of 7/4, or 7/8

I know 13/8 ( song like turn it on again,, 1234 1234 12345 , so 7/4 should be 1234567 right? ) but how do you count 7/8? anyone,, please help!!

[backbeatbobby]

few ways bro 1234 123 or 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 or 12 12 123 lol

[emiel4sma]

I looked it up the same day,, but thanks for reacting,, think I got it,, now gotta practice haha

[jouxplan]

Hello.

Personally, I don't actually 'count' any of these odd time signatures. I 'feel' the beat.

It's hard to explain, but I find it much easier to simply drum along to the song, which if it happens to be in 7/8 or 9/8 or whatever, so be it. The drums just have to 'flow' with the music. Obviously this is not always easy to do - the 13/8 of Genesis's Robbery Assault & Battery is horrific to 'feel', but frankly, I defy anyone to actually count to 13!!!!

:-)

[emiel4sma]

Hey, thanks! I know what you mean about feeling the beat,, i'm not much of a counting kind of drummer, but sometimes I just don't get the beat at all, and it's nice to have something to get back to. For example, turn it on again, i was drumming for like 3 months, and when you wrote it could be in 13/8 i started to break that down and it works, I can play to the song with great feel, and sometimes get back to 1234 1234 12345. Thanks for that vid of TIOA again by the way,, big help!! bye

[Flatliner0452]

easy, count 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7, 1 + etc. the slwer the song, the easier to count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, 10, 11, 12,13. but faster music should be counted in a not quite doubled system. Also most music in such long meters are really a combination of shorter meters in a cycle and can be counted that way, I'm very much into counting, it makes music much more alive to me to no exactly where each note is.

[KaslarProductions]

@jouxplan

count correctly or GTFO

[iFamot222]

7 beats, the 4 or the 8 simply says whether the quarter note or the eighth note gets the beat which you'd only use in reading music.

[ryanjameshorvat]

you could count it as 1234567 or if its easyer count it as 1234 123 (one bar of 4/4 and one of 3/4) the top note of the time signature is the number you count to before you start the next bar, the bottom number is the type of note you are counting. eg. 4/4 you count to 4 untill the next bar and you are counting in quater notes (1/4)

[emiel4sma]

well, i figured it out already, and trying my damnest to make a cool groove in it ( which is pretty hard for a novice like myself ) but thanks for replying anyways !!;)

[KaslarProductions]

@emiel4sma kick on the 1, snare on the "ands", snare also the 4..... here we go 1-2and3-1-2and3-4 :)

[phoenixeye88]

@emiel4sma I find it helps breaking odd times up into twos and threes. like 1212123 for 7 1231231212 for 10, etc. of course you can count in any grouping of twos and threes, these are just some simple ones.

[8080Ace]

@emiel4sma 123 1234

[69SpaceKitty]

Do you have double bass?

thats what is cool.

but your pretty damn good.

and i have the same zildijan china you have.

[juliusthethird]

It's ok...If you're going to use those stick why don't you try playing jazz rudiments.

[northeasthaza]

i have the exact same drum kit ahaha legend

[Dvir2008]

bitchin sticks yo

[jouxplan]

They are Flix Sticks. More details on my Channel.

[Hyardacil]

Actually, I think Cinema Show is in 7/8... Not that it matters at all.

Btw, my absolute favourite time signature. So graceful... yet engaging.

[jouxplan]

Quite right.

Being the idiot that I am I rarely appreciate the difference between 7/4 and 7/8 on drums!

[Hyardacil]

It doesn't matter much at all, actually. Just what you read as beats on the notes, 4th notes or 8th notes. And since the tempo on this one is so high, then for the bits of the other instruments, it's easier to read them as 7/8.

[Flamsick]

You have ability, talent and skill. You're a fine drummer.

[jouxplan]

Thank you very much!

[sigoproductions]

obviously 9biggie9 doesn't have a clue... why postage such pointless comments and reviews!

[goingfortheone1]

How do you count this s***?

3-4?

[jouxplan]

It is in 7/4. I don't count it as such. I know the rhythm, and just play with that groove. If you watch my video of Genesis Cinema Show live, you will see it go into a 7/4 section (afetr a few minutes) that sounds very similar to this solo. My solo is based on that groove.

It does not always work though - I do sometimes lose it!

You might be interested in another solo I did on here, in 9/8. That is much more difficult, and I do sort of have to count that one!

:-)

[RonG40]

Well, Phil never counted it either. Much like the way I learned Apocalypse in 9/8 on guitar. If I attempted to count out the piece, I'd have been lost, Instead I learned to "sing" the song in my head while I applied my fingers to the guitar. That's the only way I could learn it. Different courses for horses and all that. This actually reminds me of watching Neal Peart's 'A work in Progress'. .

[thizzboy99]

venetian snares would be proud.

[Darkcloud9071]

those sticks dont let the drum come out as much

[9biggie9]

ur no good

[jouxplan]

Is that so?

[AdventChild93]

"ur no good" at judging drumming.

[volendos2]

I admit bit boring at the start but it picks up, so well done

[Da1nonlysteven]

What kind of drum sticks are you using?

[jouxplan]

Flix sticks. These ones are fluorescent pink. They are a cross between brushes and wooden sticks, and are great for playing quieter.

[nytjd911]

Nice solo to a tough beat

[MJGWriter]

All right! A nice way to end the night here in America, a Jouxplan posting. I want to see Abacab soon, though! :)

[jouxplan]

What a lovely thing to say! Cheers!

Abacab is coming very soon, promise!

[rdavit]

Wow!! Awesome! That is a driving beat!

[Imsocool1004]

I really liked this solo. Nice work

[Allmanfan456]

I enjoyed watching this. Awesome job man!