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  • UFC-rules?

  • How about the pussy? Can you beat the pussy up?

  • What the hell are these idiots mumbling about? I can't understand a fucking word they say. What the fuck...? Take your unhygienic asses back to Dubai and jump off a tall fucking building you stupid fucks. Go Dolphins!!!!

  • This video is so fake! They are actually talking about how they got a muslim operative into the White House and..... an awesome pork green chili recipe.... and something about the Friday Friday video on youtube. People here are so gulible. Learn Shikka if you dont believe me.

  • What about if she refuses to make you a sandwich? Or demands to leave the Kitchen? I have no idea how this man can diciplin himself so well...

  • I'd love this tosser's wife to give him a good beating!

  • OK, so a husband can beat his wife within limits if she is in need of discipline. Let's assume that's OK. Now, I have one question, who beats the husband when he's in need of discipline? I mean that we're all imperfect and it could be said that we all deserve punishment at some time. So who punishes the men? I don't mean in a legal sense, the police and courts, but the little faults that need correcting in a domestic situation. Just asking…

  • Seems legit. Bitch you better let the man you were forced to marry sleep with you, else he gonna beat your ass and your goin straight to jahannam-or however the fuck you spell it.

  • fucking LOL. LetsGOtoClass led me to this. Go to Arabia and you can beat your wife for fun.

  • this bullshit is prolly NOT translated correctly.. even tho' i'd like it to be, because it shows yet again just how retarded this "state of mind" is... my god!!!!!!!!

  • IDK why most of you chumps disagree but If a crazy man with a beard tells me to beat my wife... I DO IT!

  • This video is totally fake, there is now way that those rats invented 3d allready, (like the right corner)

  • god damn! how fucking dumb can religious people be. any society that takes a ridiculous old coot like this seriously is in great danger of being and remaining for all time a horrible shit-hole.

  • LOL what is the 19th amendment?

  • ...my ex wife would have beaten both of these morons...shotput, diskus, track & field...it was a memorable divorce

  • wento lrjel meen b2adebkon.. shoo hl ta5alof.. ya 3yb lshoom 3a hik tefkir.. tfeh 3a meen b3emil l nise2 3a 2enna melkiyi wbmed 2ido 3laya.. ensen marid wkl wa7ad bfaker hik aktar mn marid

  • I find this easy to masturbate to

  • Give me five minutes alone in a room with this guy; I'd give him a lesson on beat downs!

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  • Seriously! First I don't think he is right, second, even for argument if he is, then may be the reason for so many restrictions is to totally avoid beating as it is. Because if it can't hurt, it has so much protocol etc. - it means it is almost not possible, and even if it is, its so harmless that its not a beating. Hence by that argument beating is so discouraged that it should be done!

  • Islam like every other religion is broken.. Hows this for a thought? THERE SHOULDNT BE A RULE BOOK ON HOW TO BEAT UR WIFE PERIOD!!!! You religious types (not just islam) call yourselves the chosen people, the purest etc, but look at your animalistic, barbaric, lack of any common logic lifestyle.. Yet they look down at us non-believers (Atheist, agnostics)

  • Man made law beat and kill in the name of merciful God!!!!

  • all of thes we have to thanks the Koran. it is the greatest invention of the human agony.

  • Fuck him i am muslim and he is Lying ...

  • Where is the proof that these people really are saying what the translation reads? Can someone who knows the language please confirm?

  • @werewolf123100 The translation is correct.

  • Is it in Arabic? Do you speak this language and where do you come from?

  • An etiquette to beatings! They know how to treat their women!

  • No he explain it good.if they do as he said.

  • I can not stand it any longer, sad, sad and SAD.

    Just imagine generations passed under such brutal believes without even been heard.

  • wow lol and they say north america is fucked up

  • the Imam is very wise. All young muslim men should watch this clip before they buy a wife, even a second or third wife.

    The prophet Mohammed said don't beat her in the face, Allah honered wives with beating

    Beating a woman is a sign of love and respect in Islam

    ALLAHU AKBAR

  • we should BOMB that fucking desert. send all the fucking bombs we have

  • (she is in need of discipline) what a crock of shit, these fuckin muslims should all hang from the neck!

  • I came to this video to find the "truth" about another video talking about the same subject that a muslim said was wrong, not i find this and is just the same crap.

  • So that's why muslin women wear burkas...to hide the bruises and scars.

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  • Who actually likes this video?? Seriously...

  • what a mindset--we honor our Muslim wives by writing a beating protocol! We beat them only when they refuse to sleep with us! I love it how these "sheikhs" wax poetic about the honor of women and their Islamically-decreed rights while falling short of believing in gender equality. I also wonder if this guy believes a woman has the right NOT to marry and to be self-sufficient.

  • Poor nasty pieces of shit! Muslims are a discrace of humanity! Dont say this is only wahabi Islam! Bullshit! Its in the Koran! All of them! Women are just for sex and breading! They are breading and filling up this great planet with garbage! Any man who hits his wife should have the shit beaten out of him! Id love to spit in the beard of these spinless sheikhs! They even look like devils!

  • I'm not sure i agree with this but the lady in the white hat has an awesome beard!

  • that's fucked up. I am muslim and don't believe in this shit! Those wahabees make us look soo bad! Men and Women are equal - Fuck this fucked up sheikh

  • @VybzVenomWaslawe I knooow! And they worry me because they use their money to open these schools in the poor Muslim countries that brainwash the local kids with their crazy ideas, and they fund all these fundamentalist groups in the other Muslim countries. They scare me the way they try to spread their disgraceful ideas to the other countries!

  • I would gladly show any of you muslims how to beat any of you cowardly poor excuse for men, you are some kind of men i suppose, well you have a penis( which has your only functioning head).

    Even tho i wouldnt expect any of you to fight like a man, usually see you in packs like diseased rats.

    Should be ashamed of yourselves, your a disgrace to manhood and a plague to this planet.

    Shave your faces sometimes you lazy cunts and grow a spine, then maybe youll EARN respect, not automatically demand it

  • beating etiquette, that's new for me...

  • F.U.C.K. SEXISM!

    Any time I see such Basterds who actually think they do the RIGHT thing by beating her wife (or ANY human) it´s a quite difficult exercise not to go on such a level, by punch them their faces through their f***ing a**holes!

  • this man is god älläh älläh bälläh bälläh ha hahaha

  • Why can't this idiot just die.

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  • actually i dont blame him but the idiots who listen to this idiot and takes his words seriously. Why does people need idiots like him cant the y think for them selfes?

  • the man is wise for any one who understand him,

  • Muslim women are too dumb to realise theyve been discriminated on. Thats why hairy muslim men take advantage of the situation like honor killing, wife beating, force rape, stoning, acid throwing on womens faces, ear or nose mutilations, forced to wear a burkha until you smell like a dead fish out in 50 degree celcius weather.

  • @angellicvoices Your just have a wild imagination! Some people are just crazy, some of them are muslims, but Islam has got nothing to do with that.

  • @gigi529 If Islam has nothing to do with that. Why does these things always occur in Muslim populations? For example I dont hear about things like honor killing in the Christian or Buddhist populations? Is a life worth less than someones ego that it is worth killing even if its your own daughter?

  • @angellicvoices In Islam there is no Honor killing, What is called Honor Killing today occurs because some muslim governments allow it to happen. In Islam if you torture and kill a cat you will go to hell, The punishment for killing a human being is death.

  • @gigi529 Did you hear what is going to happen to a poor muslim women in Iran? Did you hear the news today? She wanted to leave her drug addict husband for abusing her but couldnt because Islam forbids her to divorce. So she had an affair with another man because all she wanted was love from someone. She was so lonely. But she got caught and the clerics have issued that she would be given 100 lashings and then death by hanging straight after??? How cruel and barbaric is this!!!

  • @gigi529 Just continuing frm my last message. By the way the poor Muslim lady about to be hung is Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, please check google for her name. It is so sad that women are treated worse than dogs in this moden times. How would you feel if she was your mother? Has any Muslim Cleric have any compassion??? I am not religious but I have so much compassion for this poor lady. Do Muslims have a heart as cold as a rock?

  • @angellicvoices It is very sad when someone comes to life without knowing his father, He is now known as bastard, and will be bastard to the end of his life. Sex in Islam is not a necessity but a luxury that comes only with marriage otherwise it is a sin, the most important thing in Islam is prayers and living your life as Islam teaches you to.

  • @gigi529 ""Bastard"" is only a label given by stupid people. All life is precious regardless if the child is given this label. Dont reject the cornerstones, one day this child has the capability to save the world!!

  • @angellicvoices Well said!

  • @gigi529 Why do you agree with me when you you say ""well said""? You just mentioned that having a ""bastard"" label is very ugly in Islam as he is with this label for the rest of his life. I disagreed with you, but now you agree with me? Now I am confused where you stand with Islam?

  • @angellicvoices Being a bastard is not a sin but a sad and painful existence that should never be experienced by anyone. Everyone should be treated with respect that is what you said and what I personally believe and I had to agree with you. Happy new year angellicvoices!

  • @gigi529 How is it a sad and painful existence when one is born without a father? There are many case where Arab men rape young women and an innocent child is born. It is not the childs fault that his mother had been raped. In many cases it is better the mother is without a father. It is a well known fact that Muslim men have violent tempers and treat women like dogs.

  • @angellicvoices "It is a well known fact that Muslim men have violent tempers "

    so you said this as you lived with them ..??

    how old are you again ??

    you are ignorant and all your comments shows your ignorance

    you said muslims rape women and children<<This is forbidden in Islam and there's a punishment.

    in your country you can sleep with or (RAPE) alot of women EVEN if you have a wife

    but we don't do like this!!

  • @OGoldensunlightO Im sorry I do not understand your poor English. Please try again.

  • @angellicvoices

    the problem is not in my English, It's in your mind

    yes , English is not my native language

    and I'm proud of this

    but your ignorance will prevent you from understanding anything

    So please don't hurt people with your ignorance

    and...No I'll not try again

  • @OGoldensunlightO Your English is a little bit better this time, much improvement congratulations!. Now tell me, you said I hurt you with my words. Are you as hurt as an abused Arab woman? If you understand how it feels to be beaten by an Arab husband, then please inform us.

  • The word beating is misunderstood here, beating in Islam is a physical expression not meant to cause harm or pain. How do you beat your kids when they misbehave? Of course you don't harm them the same thing goes for women too.

  • @gigi529 I thought men and women are considered equal. So how does and equal partner treat the other equal partner like a child? (If men are beating women the same way you beat a child)

  • @pmccall100 Both men and women are equal in the eye of Allah. The sole provider of a family dictates the appropriate behavior according to his society. It is always not a good idea to beat your girlfriend.

  • @gigi529 Additionally, men are not always the sole provider. I saw a video of a muslim woman in Saudi Arabia who is a Journalist. Her husband is not the sole provider but I bet it is ok for him to knock her around the house.

    Just as a woman, why do you feel that it ok that your husband beats you? I dont understand. I honestly would like too. I am just such a different woman.I have always been a fighter, and I have a natural emotion to protect myself.

  • @pmccall100 I really don't know what to say, Islam is my religion and as I understand, if I behave well as a good muslim woman I will not arrive at the point where my husband will have to beat me to correct my bad behavior. I know beating no matter how light it is will hurt the pride of any grown up woman, and if light beating didn't do any good then the final solution will be to divorce the thing that will hurt the children if there are any.

  • @gigi529 I feel sorry for you that you are willing to accept the inhumane "brainwashing"..Jesus taught men to treat their wives with respect, as their own body...What's the joy and love in sex if it is required on demand? Not to hurt your feelings but as a free Western Woman, we are born with the inherent right to dignity and self respect. No wife, woman should ever have to submit to such disgrace, or even the threat of it. Islam has no respect for women & Muhammad is the author of it.!

  • @heavenswindsong The way to Heaven is not easy, all the muslims want to go to heaven that is why they pray to Allah and do everything according to the teachings of the Prophet peace be upon him, they don't care about your life or how you see things because most of the west is brainwashed by the jewish controlled media. I doubt that you believe in Jesus or his teachings or go to church, Christianity is no more in west!

  • @gigi529 Just the mere concept of the belief or acceptance to strike your wife is disgusting. Marriage means "ONE FLESH", to hold that manner of authority over the weaker vessel is to only control and demoralize. I am a Christian! Sadly enough, you won't find the teachings of Jesus in your Quran, they have been deliberately eliminated and what is there about him, is only his name. The Jesus in the Quran is not the Jesus of the Bible. Jesus taught love not to intimidate, threaten or manipulate.

  • @heavenswindsong You forget to mention that you are also against the capital punishment and that is just your opinion. Some women need to be disciplined and some women don't. The teachings of the prophet peace be upon him is perfect and flawless, his teachings works in reality and in every situation. "ONE FLESH" bullshit! everything in life is being measured by gain and loss even marriage.

  • @gigi529 And what did the 'prophet' (torture and torment be upon him, TATUH) say abut disobedient husbands?

    Face facts. MoMo was a piece of PIG SHIT.

  • @gigi529 Oh, and going to heaven means watching videos with Saudi girls shaking their asses on youtube? Why don't you check your profile? I thought you muslim men were not supposed to do this. It's funny that she covers her face, as if it matters. Are you sure that Allah would approve of that video? I don't think so. Why don't you practice what you preach first.

  • @auracatalina Watching those types of videos is wrong, may Allah forgive us and clean our hearts of the earthly desires and show us the right path.

  • I just had a terrible thought... imagine being like 13 or 14 years old and being married off to one of these guys! Man! Makes me wanna invade every Islamic country and save all the girls before they have to get married to old creepy sickos like this! How horrifying!

  • @justcommenting76 Let's cut off U.S. funding to dictators in Islamic countries who oppress their people so true democracy will spring from their own traditions without negative foreign interference. Perhaps women's literacy will increase, which leads to awareness of their rights and the courage to demand them, including the right to childhood and choice of one's husband and family planning. This would be my hope.

  • So the husband is only allowed to hit her when she refuses to sleep with him?

    I bet this brown Santa Claus beats his wifes every fcking night.

  • The interviewer should have asked him how he felt after he beat up a women for the first time

    and did he get that same high he felt when he preaches hate to the sheep who follow him.

    This chap belongs in the 15th century. It's almost 2012 we're talking about humans travelling to Mars while there are parts of the world where people still believe God wants them to hurt people.

    This guys obviously grew up in caring nurturing family environment where mummy and daddy

    loved him deeply.

  • why are they talking about British women? why are they so obssessed with "the west"?

  • @TheLaLasProductions you can see why by reading the comments on this video. Western people hate muslims because they accept the beating of women, while in the West any form of aggression against a woman is a crime against humanity. These are two extremes and i don't agree with neither. But after whatching so many self-righteous feminist cunts, this guy is so funny and he's like a breath of fresh air.

  • @2008marian lol interesting. which feminist ideals do you disagree with?

  • @2008marian R U Serious? I think you are either from a backwards country where men are still animals and not really humans yet, or you are really short or maybe you are only a teenage boy? But no Real Man would hit a woman for an reason unless she was attacking him or something. Men know that to value themselves highly is to value their woman highly and a defeated woman is a reflection of your own failure and demons an defeat. Get a grip and grow up and be a Real Man.

  • @2008marian Yes Marian, please elaborate

  • @TheLaLasProductions Yes! and how come the only two types of men they can envision are ones who sit and cry whenever faced with a challenge, or violent animals.. No other options? How very insulting to men everywhere.

    Also, this is not about "mere" wife beating, this is about rape. "If your wife doesnt want to have sex with you, you may threaten and beat her until she does". Not a moment's thought about why you have an unfulfilling marriage, just rape her and call it a day.

  • @veganas i mean i guess some feminists may be like that.. it's not surprising because feminism has become a political group, and most political groups are unfair in their perceptions of people who disagree with them. and yes that verse does seem to advocate rape smh

  • LOL thats some pimp shit right there

  • ill slap this guy silly lets how disipline he is afterwards

  • Im a muslim...and I think this guy is a fucking retard.

  • @tzydpro

    if u wer a muslim u wouldnt say that also that retard makes much more sense than your comment

  • @tzydpro

    Much of what he said is directly quoted from the Qur'ran or from sermons given by the prophet Muhammad. If you're going to call yourself a Muslim, you might want to try actually reading the Qur'ran before you go calling people childish names.

  • Finds this funny because first of all the subtitles could make us believe anything we don't have an guarantee for what is translated actually is true. second of all the things he says is so damn stupid and it makes him and the ones who supports hos thoughts very small men. Its Sad.......

  • Well...i don't agree with this video cuz i woud never beat my girl friend or wife (or a female in general NEVER) ... but watching this video and comparing it to what alot of americans do to their wives ... he's actually kinda right ...(dont get me wrong though Americans are 300 million and you can't say that all of them do that im just speaking in general about men who beat their women in america and the way they do it + I am American myself so....dont get me wrong).

  • HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ISLAM WOMEN RIGHTS HHHHHHHHH LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE SOBHAN ALLAH >>>>>>>>>>>> ISLAM IS LIE

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  • lmfao a rod!!!?

  • So if my husband needs some discipline, can I beat him too? I promise it will not be too hard.....

  • "Beating Etiquette" That's an oxymoron.

  • I believe that women are comete equals in every way. A religion that openly preaches violence towards women should be illegal and it's books outlawed. Disgusting savagery.

  • What a racist comment! 1, I don't have a religion 2, if you are referring to Christianity then you are cometely incorrect. And also there are no other cultures that condone violence towards women. Shame on you for defending this medieval crap.

  • "must not break or bones or poke her in the eye" hahah.. eh?

  • I respect this guy ,he is teaching wisdom.

  • I'm really glad that religion provides us with an objective moral foundation!

  • This guy probably has a bachelors degree in Islam and nothing else (Math, science) for reading a book! Haha good job! You read a book! Lol rules to beating your wife?! NO ONE SHOULD BE BEING BEAT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE! Nore Man OR women. So if you're making RULES to HOW to beat your wife, you're IMPLYING that you SHOULD beat your wife.

  • We should not be too hard on muslims though, we should show pity and be charitable, they are very primitive and do not really understand what is wrong with beating a woman. This is something you will never get a muslim to grasp, because it is a complicated intellectual concept, probably best not to even try to have a discussion, as they just wont understand what you are saying to them. Just feel sorry for them and turn the other cheek in peace as Christ did.

  • @madeinengland1968 I find it hard to believe that someone as ignorant and racist as you could believe that you yourself are more capable of grasping a "complicated intellectual concept". You don't even seem to be capable of reading similar incitements to violence in your own religious text.

  • @boringtree Yeah, but those are in the PAST, and NO ONE preaches about that anymore in Christianity. We have evolved beyond that and it would never be accepted anymore.. This isn't being read as a dead text from the past. It is used currently by Muslim men all over the world who continue to use texts like these to justify their sadism and weaknesses!

  • @justcommenting76 It would be a lie to say there isn't still an anti-gay agenda, a stigma, in christianity. The same is true about gender stereotypes and womens rights, maybe beating is rare now but christian men sure do know how to use the book to get a blowjob or a sandwich. Christianity is a garbage cult, just like all of the other faith based cults. And what is faith? The furthest thing from knowledge.

  • @AMpufnstuf Some of what you say seems true to me. Although I think faith is a much bigger concept than religion and we all faith in something, even it's just an idea that there is some kind of balance or justice or that life is sacred or something like that.

  • @justcommenting76 Check the dictionary and you'll see faith has no reason to be considered a virtue. Belief in something despite no evidence to suggest it's true. Bollocks. I'd rather just admit we're without external purpose and our species extinction will have absolutely no bearing on the rest of the universe.

  • I could never beat a woman, so I would probably be beheaded for not doing it.

  • It is so shocking that muslims think beating women is acceptable!! what a barbaric religion! In the west, beating anyone is illegal, but in islam, it is ok to beat women!! I would hang my head in shame if I was a muslim.

  • Guys Guys i am saudi muslim from saudi arabia i have ever seen before man beat her wife in saudi arabia

    fuck youtube fuck internet Distorted picture

  • @SALEEM9Vid Of course you havent seen that. It happens behind closed doors, if she doesnt want to have sex. And every good muslim known not to let there be any visible marks.. Thank goodness for "beating etiquette", otherwise there will be ugly women with swollen faces and black eyes everywhere. Ew.

  • @veganas what the fuck hey hey liar im from saudi arabia muslim im not beating my wife when didnt want to have sex what the fuck are you thinkin 

  • I slap my GF's ass daily because she's into spanking. Can I tell her father that I'm honoring his daughter?

  • @ThallesNinja Yes, providing you can also run faster than him.

  • @ThallesNinja lmbo!!!!!

  • I am a muslim woman and this is a disgrace to my religion! 

  • @Hazeleyesinlove But its in your Quran!

  • This is honoring a wife?

  • What a sick person...

  • Muslim lady's...if that ugly barbaric ever beats you, I suggest u kick him in balls, and then beat him senseless! Lmao.. :)

  • Sure,men in the west beat women,as they do in the east.However,the important point is that in the west men are seen as weak for beating women,while under this religion they have a code of how to beat women.This is not zionist propaganda, as muslims have moved to the west from the east to preach this backward set of laws,encouraging men in the west to carry it out.I have met these idiots for myself,not through this or any other website.Denying this does not do anyone any favours.

  • in my religion, it is totally acceptable to beat up ignorant stupid bearded old men.

  • Pretty cool! Sounds like early christian rules. PS: All religions must abolish. Every believer must die with throes.

  • @yazuchy prove it

  • I would be ashamed to be a Muslim. This is so barbaric. Thank god for YouTube for showing the world the truth about this evil prehistoric religion.

  • "she is in need of discipline " what happens when"he" needs discipline?? why doesn't the beating rules apply 4 the wife...why cant she beat him when he's wrong?answer my question muslim ppl

  • @nimraVevo Because people are sexist and ignorant.

  • @rockshya23 true but I still don't get why women let them do this

  • @nimraVevo

    come on men are made diffrently to women they are built more powerfully and rules differ to both men are also the breadwinners of the household

    thats my opinion

  • @infocus001 soo? just cuz men are physically stronger doesn't mean their the boss. Men are not god so ur saying they can't be wrong just cuz their stronger? They should also be punished and don't forget ur mother is also a woman.& don't judge a woman cuz she's WAY stronger.

  • is that not considered rape?

  • I'm not Christian? So you can't attack me. I belong to the biggest and fastest growing religion of no religion I.e. People who live in the 21st c. Those that embrace freedom, equality, technology, free speech, and don't shit in the street and chop heads off.

  • Dignity 1400 I have no idea what you are on about? Religion is a foreign language to me? I'm spiritual, I believe in equality and human rights, I don't belong to any 'religion' just know that Islam is barbaric, as it condones violence towards women!

  • who the hack would want to learn how to beat somone that is so dear to him?!?!?!?!

  • The point is also that you have a religion, based on a book. This is hardly safe or normal? As these religions are the cause of the problem and allow nutters like this to justify prejudice. 'religion' is a rather outdated concept.

  • Sorry to cause offense, but I haveseen loads of videos and also witness how women are treated by many Muslim men on a daily basis. I'm glad you disagree with this, but people like this guy are everywhere!

  • @madeinengland1968 Hi...im a muslim Arabic woman, anthropologically & islamically my testimony qualifies when i assure you that islam does NOT and never has or ever will condone wife beating.

    What you have witnessed is individual practices as im sure you will agree that not everyone is a ambassador of the faith they claim to belong to...Child molesting priest anyone?!

    So if you want to know about this aya and the truth i have made a video for all - its my only upload just click me and watch it

  • @Dignity1400 Why go as far as "child molesting priest"? there are plenty of child molesting imams right in your back yard, Ms. Islam, and is just proof as to how devastating to human morals is the adherence to a backwards, barbaric belief system of any kind.

    Men are not born with the desire to rape children but shove enough bullshit, brainwash, doctrines which undermine respect for all living creatures and unhealthy approach to sexuality, you'll see just about anything is possible,

  • @Dignity1400 Child molesting priest are looked down up. Wife beaters are not! and the wife beating verse is in your Quran and hadeeths. Please read it before you make these accusations.

  • what a sex-crazed idiot! my ass is way smarter than his brain!

  • I'd hate to be Muslim, I would hang my head in shame! How aful is this religion? How backward and barbaric! This is one of the reasons that the entire world views islam as an illegal, and completely discredited religion. It is a cult of hatred, misery aand murder. Awful, thank god the rest of the free world can see what they can't see! this is a good reminder of how things used to be 700 years ago in the west. Thankfully the world has left islam behind!